The second “Varshavyanka” for the Pacific Fleet began mooring trials

DEPL "Volkhov" before launching in November 2019

The second diesel-electric submarine of project 636.3 "Volkhov", being built in the interests of the Pacific fleet, started mooring trials. This was reported by the press service of the Admiralty Shipyards, leading the construction of a series of Varshavyanka.

According to the report, the mooring tests will take about three months, after which the submarine will begin to pass the factory sea and state tests.

Specialists will check all systems, devices and mechanisms of the ship. Among them are a navigation system, a communications complex, general ship systems, control systems, a torpedo missile system, a sonar system and others

- stated at the enterprise.

DEPL "Volkhov" is the second submarine of the type "Varshavyanka" in the series, which is being built for the Pacific Fleet. Laid down on the same day as the main diesel-electric submarine “Petropavlovsk-Kamchatsky” - July 28, 2017, launched on December 26, 2019. The lead submarine for the Pacific Fleet has already been accepted into the Russian Navy after passing state tests. The third and fourth submarines, called Ufa and Magadan, were laid down at the Admiralty Shipyards on November 1 last year.

The contract for the construction of a series of six “Varshavyanka” for the Pacific Fleet was signed by the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation and the “Admiralty Shipyards” in September 2016. DEPLs belong to the third generation of diesel-electric submarines. As previously reported by the Ministry of Defense, some changes were made to the design of submarines to improve their tactical and technical data.

The length of the submarine is 73 meters, width - 10 meters, the maximum immersion depth - 300 meters, underwater speed - 20 knots, autonomy - 45 days. Crew - 52 person. The submarines are armed with six 533 mm caliber torpedo tubes, mines and Caliber rocket launchers.

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[DMB 75]

Good news! Seven feet under the keel boat !!!

[Vladimir_2U]

Quote: DMB 75

Seven feet under the keel boat

I join the wish! It is a pity, of course, that there is no VNEU yet, but the submarine itself is a very cool technique, and it is important to maintain the competence of Russian military shipbuilders in this regard!

[SSR]

Quote: Vladimir_2U

Quote: DMB 75

Seven feet under the keel boat

I join the wish! It is a pity, of course, that there is no VNEU yet, but the submarine itself is a very cool technique, and it is important to maintain the competence of Russian military shipbuilders in this regard!

+ Well, at least in the first comments someone noticed and pointed out about VNEU, and then the local "ragulata", besides us, disgraced and uryaya !!! They don't want to know anything else.
I wonder where did so many "shkololo" come from?
There are specific comrades with specific facts, there are Jews with their vision, but where did so many crazy crackers come from?
The main majority of such people can’t even bark, because there’s nothing to say, Vika doesn’t tell you.)))

[businessv]

Quote from S.S.R.

Well, at least in the first comments someone noticed and pointed out about VNEU, and then the local "ragulata", besides us, disgraced and urya !!! They don't want to know anything else.

Well, according to the forum users it’s clear, as we about you, what about the boat?

[DMB 75]

Such a yap, and that's it.

[SSR]

Quote: businessv

Well, according to the forum users it’s clear, as we about you, what about the boat?

Are you pretending to be a dunduk?
In black and white.

The second diesel-electric submarine of Project 636.3 Volkhov, being built in the interests of the Pacific Fleet, has started mooring tests.

What else should I add?
What unique and unmatched in the world boat of project 636.3 embarked on mooring?
Yeah, right away, from one news about a mooring vest, I’ll start tearing.

[businessv]

Quote from S.S.R.

Are you pretending to be a dunduk?

Ha! You are also a boor in addition! I do not advise you to get personal - redneck is not in trend now!

[SSR]

Quote: businessv

Quote from S.S.R.

Are you pretending to be a dunduk?

Ha! You are also a boor in addition! I do not advise you to get personal - redneck is not in trend now!

Thank you for the advice, of course, but the question was, to put it mildly, akin to - Whose Crimea!
Although everything seems to be clear to everyone.
PS.
Therefore, I am writing about forum "ragulat". Nothing new, just shouts.

[An60]

Do not touch other people's vests, tear your quilted jacket.

[URAL72]

After the advent of the Warsaw Caliber, and especially the expected Zircon, the importance of VNEU, although it has not disappeared, has nevertheless declined markedly. These are not torpedoes with their range ...

[Artavazdych]

Where are these zircons? Did anyone see them at all or did I miss something?

[Dart2027]

Quote: Artavazdych

Where are these zircons?

According to TASS, citing sources in the power structures of the Northwestern Federal District, the missile was launched in January. The frigate of project 22350 "Admiral Gorshkov" was used as a sea carrier.
https://rg.ru/2020/02/27/smi-giperzvukovuiu-raketu-cirkon-vpervye-ispytali-s-korablia.html

[SSR]

Quote: Artavazdych

Where are these zircons? Did anyone see them at all or did I miss something?

Did you miss the news about what Zircon was supposed to experience in the Navy in December ?! Ah ah ah. SchA stuffed "experts"))).

[Artavazdych]

Well missed. So should have or experienced?

[SSR]

Quote: Artavazdych

Well missed. So should have or experienced?

Well, read it yourself!)))

Quote: URAL72

After the arming of the Warsaw Caliber, and especially the expected Zircon, the importance of VNEU, although it has not disappeared, has nevertheless declined markedly

Carriers already found)))

Quote: 30 vis

Can you make zircon? Or yourself go ... Go already!

Although comrade says that they will not be on "Varshavyanka")))
Nevertheless, for most, the absence of VNEU on Varshavyanka is nonsense, there are Zircons. Although like rudolff said sedition.)))

Quote from rudolf

There will be no zircons in Varshavyanki.

[Xnumx vis]

Can you make zircon? Or yourself go ... Go already!

[SSR]

Quote: URAL72

After the advent of the Warsaw Caliber, and especially the expected Zircon, the importance of VNEU, although it has not disappeared, has nevertheless declined markedly. These are not torpedoes with their range ...

But nevertheless, we must master this task. Moreover, there are already enough "pioneers".

[Andrei from Chelyabinsk]

Gauges and zircons are the NON-ESSENTIAL armament of Varshavyanka. As a matter of fact, they could not be set at 636.3 at all, they would not have lost much from this.
Missiles for diesel-electric submarines are a very situational weapon, perhaps, with the exception of PLUR, and even that is not a fact

[URAL72]

Andrey, I don’t think so. It all depends not on the situation, but on the strategy. Considering that we are building an inter-missile system with 8 launchers at Calibre at an accelerated pace, it seems that now the strategy involves betting on striking potential, moreover, mainly by land. What we see in Syria. The GDP itself, not just talking about the possibility of war, did not mention the Caliber, but nuclear weapons. We're going to heaven anyway

[Andrei from Chelyabinsk]

Quote: URAL72

Andrey, I don’t think so.

I respect your point of view, but I will try to convince.

Quote: URAL72

It all depends not on the situation, but on the strategy.

Right. Strategically, diesel-electric submarines in the Russian Navy are an anti-submarine weapon in the near sea zone. Now they, of course, do not shy from sending them to Middle-earth, due to the small number of naval personnel, but the key form of their combat use is on duty on possible routes of enemy multi-purpose atomarians crawling into our waters, and when the battery goes out, they leave the protected area and charge batteries.
And for these purposes, the Kyrgyz Republic did not fall sideways.

Quote: URAL72

Considering that we are building an inter-missile system with 8 launchers at Calibre at an accelerated pace, it seems that now the strategy involves betting on striking potential, moreover, mainly by land.

Oleg, I'm afraid you mistakenly mixed need and strategy.
Strategically, we were not going to build MRKs in noticeable quantities at all - the emphasis in the development of surface forces in the GPC 2011-2020 was placed on corvettes (35 units) and frigates (14 units). Several Buyan-Ms were planned to be built from RTOs. But then they ran into problems and announced the construction of RTOs. This was done not because such a strategy, but because the fleet desperately needs at least some ships, and we can still build RTOs. And it is these MRKs that are enough for the eyes to use calibers for coastal targets.
At the same time, the use of anti-ship missiles Caliber with Varshavyank is difficult. Their HAK is not too far-reaching, yet the submarines are relatively small, so that they themselves will see the target when it is relatively close. It’s difficult to shoot calibers with diesel-electric submarines, they cannot form a full-fledged volley from torpedo tubes, but the place of diesel-electric submarines will be 100% unmasked. And DEPL will not be able to leave quickly - not nuclear.

[Romario_Argo]

Missiles for diesel submarines are a very situational weapon

torpedoes are generally slow-moving - up to 60 knots ~ 111 km / h
and the normal range so that it is possible to eat at least 20 km
those. torpedo travel time to this range ~ 10-12 minutes
Figa Situation keel to the bottom

except for PLUR

about PLURA completely agree (!)

[Andrei from Chelyabinsk]

Quote: Romario_Argo

torpedoes are generally slow-moving - up to 60 knots ~ 111 km / h
and the normal range so that it is possible to eat at least 20 km

Roman, the KPVT machine gun has an initial bullet speed of 1000 m / s, and the knife in the hand does not reach 10 m / s. With a knife, you can hit a distance of your outstretched arm, and the KPVT works for 2000 m, and the pros will be able to continue. To kill a person, it is necessary to inflict several blows and / or cuts with a knife, and a hit of 14,5 mm of the KPVT bullet in any case will put a person out of action (pain shock).
But if you and I are fighting in the elevator and you have a KPVT (52 kg) and an ammunition box for it (another 12 kg) and I have a knife, then I will leave the elevator. One.
The moral, I hope, is clear? :)))

[Romario_Argo]

Moral, I hope, understand?

Gauges and zircons are the UNSIMPLEMENTARY armament of Varshavyanka

those. torpedoes are effective at a distance of 5 km. - (???)
which again will be 2,5 minutes (150 sec)
- but then it’s easier (in the elevator) to use the VA-111 Shkval torpedo at such ranges at a speed of 370 km / h (100m / s), range up to 7 km = 70 seconds
and at a distance of 7 km PLURA and RCC
Andrei, you are NOT right about RCC and SLCM for submarines pr. 636.6

[Dart2027]

Quote from S.S.R.

The main majority of such people cannot bark, for there is nothing to say

Are you talking to yourself?

[SSR]

Quote: Dart2027

Quote from S.S.R.

The main majority of such people cannot bark, for there is nothing to say

Are you talking to yourself?

Yes, where am I to you with yours

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Against my 4900! I am more a reader than trynda.
Did I answer you, or did I flutter like you?

[Dart2027]

Quote from S.S.R.

Against my 4900!

That is, there really is nothing on the topic of the article.

[Victor_B]

Quote: DMB 75

Good news! Seven feet under the keel boat !!!

Probably based in Ulysses Bay in Vladivostok.
I've been there many, many times.

[bessmertniy]

The main thing is that it will soon take its place in the Navy, which really needs such a replenishment.

[Aerodrome]

started to mooring tests

so it’s mooring ... damn it, the main thing has begun.

[maidan.izrailovich]

Probably based in Ulysses Bay in Vladivostok.

Now there is the 19th submarine brigade.
There are seven Halibuts and one Varshavyanka (Petropavlovsk-Kamchatsky) in the ranks.

[Grits]

Quote: Victor_B

Probably based in Ulysses Bay in Vladivostok.
I've been there many, many times.

Now when you enter the bridge into Russian - Ulysses Bay, together with all the boats and ships in full view. The beauty!

[Grits]

Here is the base on Ulysses from the bridge

[Sarmat Sanych]

How hot pies "Varshavyanka" are baked! Good luck

[businessv]

The second diesel-electric submarine of Project 636.3 Volkhov, being built in the interests of the Pacific Fleet, has started mooring tests.

I do not pretend to be original, I will write as always: such messages are pleasing, regardless of the size and purpose of the vessels. Seven feet under the keel!

[CBR600]

And what is the thread of her TA?

[Podvodnik]

Standard TA 533 mm. The pipe is the pipe. If the BIUS (or a separate complex) allows you to generate data for firing the product, it will be downloaded and applied if necessary.

[Amateur]

Quote: Vladimir_2U

I join the wish! It’s a pity of course that there isn’t VNEU yet,

Dear colleagues!
Let's stop talking journalistic nonsense about the so-called. "air-independent power plants" (VNEU) for submarines.
1. Starting with the first "real" submarine USS Holland, (it was launched on May 17, 1897. It entered the US Navy on April 11, 1900 and entered into service on October 12, 1900) ALL submarines were equipped with VNEU for underwater movement as part of ELECTRIC MOTOR + BATTERY. But to charge the batteries, they mainly use diesel engines that operate on the surface and consume atmospheric air.
2. An alternative to the "battery + electric motor" pair was invented in the early 1930s by the German engineer Helmut Walter. He designed a small high-speed submarine powered by perhydrol (hydrogen peroxide in a stable form). In 1939 he was awarded a contract to build an experimental submarine, the 80 ton V-80, which reached 28.1 knots submerged during trials in 1940. But the matter, for various reasons, did not go well.
3. In 1949, in the USSR, at the Sudomeh plant, a life-size wooden model was built to check the location of mechanisms and equipment. In March 1950, a pilot boat of the A-615 (M-254) series was laid, and in August they launched it into the water. In September, her mooring trials began. In July 1951 - factory tests. Only a year later it was possible to proceed to the state. A distinctive feature of this class of small submarines was the availability of single air-independent engines for underwater travel. As the main engine was adopted diesel 32D with a capacity of 900 liters. pp., for forced modes were intended two diesel engines M50P of 700 liters. with., high-speed, but with much less motor resources. For scuba diving on diesel engines, the lead boat had two liquid oxygen tanks with a total mass of 8,5 tons and 14,4 tons of a lime type chemical absorber. Also, on the middle shaft there was a PG-106 electric motor with a capacity of 100 liters. with. In total, from 1953 to 1959, in addition to the main boat of Project 615, 29 boats were produced. A615 boats were notorious for submariners, because of the high fire hazard they were called "lighters."
4. Swedish Gotland submarines. On boats, two 16-cylinder MTU 16V-396 diesel engines (2980 hp) or two Hedemora V12A / 15-Ub diesel engines (3600 hp) that give current to electric motors that transmit to the propeller shafts power 1800 hp Speed ​​in the surface 11 knots, underwater 20 knots. Boats are equipped with so-called “AIP System”. A distinctive feature of the boat is the Kockums v4-275R Mk III Stirling engine installed in addition to diesels, using liquid oxygen on board. The Stirling engine works in exactly the same way as a diesel engine, only the fuel is not burned in the cylinders, but in the external combustion chamber using a supply of liquid oxygen. The problems are the same as on the A-615: the complexity of oxygen storage, fire hazard and the need to discharge combustion products overboard.
5.On October 4, a ceremony was held at the Kobe Mitsubishi Heavy Industries shipyard for launching the world's first non-nuclear submarine Oryu (tail number SS 511), equipped with lithium-ion batteries, which will allow Japanese submarines to abandon the use of not only traditional lead -acid storage batteries, but also non-volatile Stirling engines. The Japanese believe that one charge at the base is enough for 30 days of patrolling? Wait and see.
6. And finally, the German boats of the 212 series. A fuel cell power plant with direct conversion of chemical energy into electrical energy. Boats nonetheless have:
Diesel: MTU 8V183 / 396 1050 kW (Siemens) - for swimming in the RPD mode, on the surface and for charging rechargeable batteries (AB).
Electric: - non-volatile Siemens SINAVYCIS Permasin engine - DC motor with built-in frequency regulator on IGBT electronics with a power of 1700 kW. Designed to provide an economical ride. It is powered by a Howaldtswerke Deutsche Werft AG power plant, consisting of 9 Siemens SINAVYCIS PEM BZM34 proton-exchange fuel cells, which include cryogenic oxygen tanks and metal hydride tanks (a special metal alloy combined with hydrogen (everything is outside of a solid case) )
There is only one problem: storage of cryogenic oxygen. Also wait and see.
My apologies for the long koment.

[Vladimir_2U]

VNEU is quite an official term / abbreviation, and this is definitely more literate than the "capsule" in Armata. You are missing the fact that the VNEU is not the main power plant, but serves to covertly recharge the battery or provide a low speed without using the battery, in a submerged position, so I think that the closest land analogue is the APU for tanks. It's my personal opinion.

[Amateur]

You miss that VNEU is not the main power plant

Is the battery + motor pair not the "main power plant"? After the "full electric propulsion system" was invented (that is, the screw ALWAYS operates from the electric motor), the source of electricity began to be secondary. So far (it is not clear why) the scheme of direct drive to the propeller (propeller or water cannon) from the steam turbine remains only on the nuclear submarine.

[Vladimir_2U]

Quote: Amateur

The battery + motor pair is not the main powerplant?

Quite right, it is, but the battery needs to be "filled", and the diesel engine does not allow it to be done secretly, there is a need to ascend, and noise, and exhaust. VNEU, on the other hand, allows you to secretly charge the battery at low speeds. Ours generally threatened to create VNEU on a clean diesel engine, some kind of reforming. )))

Quote: Amateur

The Japanese believe that one charge at the base is enough for 30 days of patrolling ... Wait and see

These are your words, and as I understand it, they confirm the need for recharging the batteries.

[antivirus]

like a spoon in a barrel of power of Russia
I am waiting for the denial of the power of the Russian Federation from patriots
there are no atomic aircraft carriers for you: 2 pieces acquired by overwork in Sevmash,
2 units purchased from the French Navy, 2 units raised from the bottom Tych approx. 2 pieces donated by "friendly" Trump
Russia's fleet is weak without 7 aircraft carriers.

and Varshavyanka should be thrown into the trash.

[Andrei from Chelyabinsk]

Quote: antivirus

like a spoon in a barrel of power of Russia

So yes, it’s only a pity that the bottom of the barrel is knocked out

Quote: antivirus

I am waiting for the denial of the power of the Russian Federation from patriots

You probably meant the Russian Navy? So the Russian Federation is quite powerful for itself (no one canceled the strategic nuclear forces)

Quote: antivirus

there are no nuclear carriers for you

The problem is different. Varshavyanka is already a very, very old project, and no matter how you pull it out, you cannot bring it to the level of modern submarines. And the new Lada, it seems, remained unsuccessful, in any case there is no large-scale construction. And even those already, frankly, are most likely not at the peak of progress.
In general, it is better not the best ship than none, from this point of view Varshavyanka today has no alternative. And the new ship certainly pleases, but ... this joy, alas, with tears in his eyes

[antivirus]

in a different. Varshavyanka is already a very, very old project,
when we left the construction of large-scale cereals (even before the sanctions and the ban on picking Ukraine) - everything is clear, we are building a fleet of coastal zone control and missile launches. complement the radii of Buyanov-Caliber-Yars-Satan-TU160-Sarmat. not unification, but laying in one pipe-rocket mine, more than the Strategic Missile Forces. there will be money - there will be a fleet, there is NO MONEY FOR YOUR WANTES. everything was determined under SBIvanov.
I am annoyed only by the future loss of Antarctica.
and 1 year for 2 or 3 and without the navy can receive a pension

[Imperial Technocrat]

This year, the fleet will receive 2 of the world's best 955 strategists and 2 of the world's best multi-functional nuclear submarines 855. Well, 1 diesel-Varshavyanka from the article. Not bad

[Podvodnik]

I wish the crew to engage only in combat and physical training. And no bullshit about patrols, galleys, cleaning up the territory, repairing barracks. Only "iron" and the sea. And so that the number of dives is always equal to the number of ascents.

[Victor March 47]

Quote from S.S.R.

Quote: businessv

Well, according to the forum users it’s clear, as we about you, what about the boat?

Are you pretending to be a dunduk?
In black and white.

The second diesel-electric submarine of Project 636.3 Volkhov, being built in the interests of the Pacific Fleet, has started mooring tests.

What else should I add?
What unique and unmatched in the world boat of project 636.3 embarked on mooring?
Yeah, right away, from one news about a mooring vest, I’ll start tearing.

And if there’s nothing to add, shut up and sit in your latrine with a developed vest. Do not suck, mug.

[petrol cutter]

Three months for mooring tests ... It seemed to me a bit too much ... Then the running factory (usually all the "hemorrhoids" here and crawls out), state ... I may be wrong, I did not build or rent a submarine.
In those days, I just cut them. Unfortunately...

[Sarcasm]

Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk

Quote: antivirus

like a spoon in a barrel of power of Russia

So yes, it’s only a pity that the bottom of the barrel is knocked out

Quote: antivirus

I am waiting for the denial of the power of the Russian Federation from patriots

You probably meant the Russian Navy? So the Russian Federation is quite powerful for itself (no one canceled the strategic nuclear forces)

Quote: antivirus

there are no nuclear carriers for you

The problem is different. Varshavyanka is already a very, very old project, and no matter how you pull it out, you cannot bring it to the level of modern submarines. And the new Lada, it seems, remained unsuccessful, in any case there is no large-scale construction. And even those already, frankly, are most likely not at the peak of progress.
In general, it is better not the best ship than none, from this point of view Varshavyanka today has no alternative. And the new ship certainly pleases, but ... this joy, alas, with tears in his eyes

IMHO, not so and not about that.
This is a boat mastered by industry and the navy, with more than enough stealth and capabilities. Our task and problem in the Northern and Pacific Fleets is the protection of strategists.
And with surface ships, as you can see, there’s a lot to do, plus the price of the issue, and Varshavyanka is there, there are capacities for their construction, the project is modernized and relatively inexpensive, I repeat, their deployment in the Northern and Pacific fleets will solve the problem of protecting strategists and approaches to the bases.
In the Black Sea and the Baltic, there is another song.