Georgian army after 2008: were conclusions made


Without particularly going into the analysis of the reasons why in August 2008 the Georgian army was not just defeated but was badly beaten, it’s worth mentioning that a very bad joke with those who gave it commands was played by blind faith in the omnipotence of NATO standards and American instructors. Certain lessons in Tbilisi were learned from all that happened. That's just not the fact that exactly those that should be.


In fact, the local armed forces are continuing to move in the direction of the same rejection of everything Soviet and creating the maximum likeness of small but proud armies that some (not the most significant) members of the North Atlantic Alliance are trying to brag about today. For example, things are considered a great achievement there, such as the abolition of "obsolete Soviet-style military ranks", the introduction of a uniform that meets NATO standards, and the rearmament of an increasing number of units from our Kalashnikovs to American M4A1 and M4A3.

However, all this is particular. The main thing is different. The airborne and naval forces in Georgia, ingloriously crushed in 2008, simply decided not to rebuild. “Gifts” of such value as combat aircraft or ships, none of the military partners from the West are going to make Tbilisi, and there is no mention of their strength for their construction. So the only thing that flies today in the Georgian army is various UAVs. Mostly Israeli Hermes, Elbit Skylark and Aerostat, but they say that Georgian craftsmen are stubbornly trying to create something of their own in this area, and it seems that they have been successful since 2010. According to rumors, somewhere in the hangars even “deeply modernized” Su-25s are hiding in an unknown quantity, but even the question is not about reviving the Air Force.

In fact, today the ground forces are the only real kind of troops in the Georgian army. Trying to completely copy the NATO system of manning and equipment saturation, they followed the path of creating unified brigades, intending in the future to completely abandon dividing them into tankmechanized and infantry. Also in the army structure will be specialized anti-tank, engineering units and air defense units. This last point for the Georgians is just a matter of pride - five years ago they managed to beg France for more or less modern air defense systems, including the Ground Master GM403 radar and the Ground Master GM2000 radar, as well as the MBDA MISTRAL ATLAS air defense systems. To fight the tanks, the Americans of Georgia, like all their very close friends, set aside their widely publicized "Javelins."

Serious “armor” in the Georgian army is mainly represented by Soviet models like the T-55 and T-72, to some extent “modernized”, and the Ukrainian “Oplot”. However, there is information about several German Leopard 2A6, but their tight Germans are allowed to expel from the boxes only during joint exercises. The lighter armored vehicles are again Soviet classics, from BMP-1 and BPM-2 to BTR-70 and 80. However, in recent years, the production of purely Georgian armored vehicles “Didgori” and “Lazika” has begun and has been accelerated at an accelerated pace.

On the whole, Georgia, which spends quite solid money on an army for a not-so-rich country, is torn between the desire to create more powerful armed forces and its own real capabilities. Yes, they realized that they were deeply mistaken, believing in a "small but professional army" - after the warriors who claimed this definition were defeated by Abkhaz militia and Russian conscripts. The leadership of the country was forced to extend the period of compulsory military service and even returned to school something like initial military training. At the same time, Tbilisi is directing all its main efforts towards as close integration with NATO as possible, opening a permanent alliance training center on its territory, participating in all its exercises and missions, wherever they call.

Ultimately, all military construction in Georgia comes down to the creation of formations and forces, the only task of which, in essence, is to "hold out until the Americans arrive." That's just the experience of 2008 shows that they most likely will not come at all. So it would be good for Tbilisi to learn this particular, main lesson, and not try to “reintegrate” those who do not want to live under his rule by military force. Well, of course, it’s better not to quarrel with your neighbors.
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  1. Vladimir_2U 3 March 2020 14: 35 New
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    Yes, the simple conclusion is, do not jump to Russia, and the whole business!
    1. Vladimir B. 3 March 2020 15: 57 New
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      Georgia made no conclusions. didn't due to lack of her own opinion. all their opinion, this is the opinion of the United States. Americans will tell them "cute, lick the socket" they will lick the socket. if they had their own opinion, they, the politicians of Georgia, lived on the principle of "decorate the world with their absence."
      1. Paul Siebert 3 March 2020 17: 12 New
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        "cute, lick the socket"

        Just smiled ...
        In Iran, believers now lick the doors of mosques.
        To prove that the faithful cannot become infected with the coronavirus! ... wink
        1. Nyrobsky 3 March 2020 22: 53 New
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          Quote: Paul Siebert
          "cute, lick the socket"

          Just smiled ...
          In Iran, believers now lick the doors of mosques.
          To prove that the faithful cannot become infected with the coronavirus! ... wink
          Coronavirus is a newborn phenomenon, and therefore the memory of its negative effects is only being formed, and what to do with the memory of generations? During the war of 1812, the Georgian people in addition to Bagrationi gave 12 more generals who participated in the war with Napoleon. Under the tsar, about 400 generals of Georgian origin served in the Russian army. During the war, Stalin (Dzhugashvili) did not exchange his son for a German general .... In addition, their representative Kantaria raised the banner over the defeated Reichstag, and today they are moving off the topic of participation in the victory parade. Under Saakashvili, a monument to the victory over fascism and the dead Georgians was blown up in Georgia, of which about 250 did not return from the war, which is a huge loss for a small people (4 million). By the way, during the demolition (explosion of the monument), several Georgian civilians died along the way. By faith, Georgians, Christians, but you were late and turned away from the general history, having crossed out centuries-old normal relations, formed their units participating on the side of the fascist ukranationalistic junta who participated in the execution of fellow believers in LDN and left to lick neither the outlet, nor the door, but the American boot. How is this possible? request
      2. TermNachTer 3 March 2020 19: 00 New
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        What conclusions can the lackeys draw? What the Washington Reich Chancellery will order, they will do so. The only conclusion is that Russia cannot be rude, because it is very painful and NATA will not help.
    2. Su24 4 March 2020 00: 37 New
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      Serious “armor” in the Georgian army is mainly represented by Soviet models like the T-55 and T-72, to some extent “modernized”, and the Ukrainian “Oplot”. However, there is information about several German Leopard 2A6


      The author got stoned?) What are the Bastions, what are the Leopards?))
      1. ArhipenkoAndrey 4 March 2020 15: 44 New
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        From the old: "FUNNY GEORGIANS RUN (Brave) .......... and basically it says it all - well, not warriors and that’s it, it’s better to pick grapes, make wine, maybe the enemies would end when used to mind.
  2. Andrei Nikolaevich 3 March 2020 14: 35 New
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    Is there an army in Georgia? ..
  3. The leader of the Redskins 3 March 2020 14: 35 New
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    What a set of rumors ?! What are the “mainstays” and “leopards” in the boxes? !!!
    1. DMB 75 3 March 2020 14: 43 New
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      Of the tanks they have 6 leopards 2A6, which, by agreement, are used only during exercises with Germany. Your Ukrainian "Oplot" is not there, breathe evenly, leader.
      1. The leader of the Redskins 3 March 2020 14: 47 New
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        I had the T-72b and T-64b. And also "familiarization" T-55 and T-62. And you with such "hasty" conclusions do not otherwise want virtual "marshals" to quickly?
        1. DMB 75 3 March 2020 14: 51 New
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          Quote: Leader of the Redskins
          not otherwise in virtual "marshals" for a quick want?

          Who has a pain, he talks about it ... wink
      2. Su24 4 March 2020 00: 39 New
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        This is when they were given new leopards ??
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  5. Ovrag 3 March 2020 14: 41 New
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    Well, a state with a population of 3 million. man, in principle, will not be able to support any serious army. In particular, the Air Force. Even in a much richer Switzerland, in similar mountain conditions, the Air Force is purely nominal. Yes, there are a number of already quite old F18. And that is all.
    Again, the best military tactics for such countries is to create the maximum number of different mountain fortified areas that I can effectively restrain the advance of even a much more serious enemy due to the terrain. This is maximum.
    1. neri73-r 3 March 2020 14: 59 New
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      Quote: Ovrag
      which, due to the terrain, I can effectively restrain the advance of even a much more serious enemy.

      How long and how long? wassat
      1. Imperial Technocrat 3 March 2020 15: 29 New
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        ___ Minutes 15)
      2. Ovrag 3 March 2020 16: 00 New
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        Long enough so that the losses become unacceptable in comparison with the gain.
        This is the main tactic of any small state. If geography allows. Such a state can never win a war with a large neighbor. But his task is to make the price of victory such that it would be prohibitively expensive with respect to the preferences arising from the capture of such a country.
        Finland is a perfect example at 39. They basically had no chance to win this war. But they did everything so that this victory would be as expensive as possible for the USSR. As a result. Despite the formal victory of the USSR in the war, in fact Finland retained most of its territory and independence. And most importantly, won an ideological and political victory.
        1. strannik1985 3 March 2020 16: 09 New
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          And most importantly, won an ideological and political victory

          It’s just that they do not talk about the occupation of Finland at the meetings of the GVS in the fall and winter of 1939, there are no such goals in the plan of Meretskov (there are only 21 rifle divisions!), There is no documentary evidence whatsoever about the desire of the military-political leadership of the USSR to seize Finland.
          Mannerheim an absolute zero in the strategy, got involved in the conflict pre-doomed to defeat good
          Georgia is more likely an example of Switzerland or Sweden. In general, do not attack anyone, regardless of the appetites of the ruling elite and the state of the army.
          1. Dart2027 3 March 2020 16: 19 New
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            Quote: strannik1985
            Mannerheim an absolute zero in the strategy, got involved in the conflict pre-doomed to defeat

            Well, he was not the head of the country, so the claims are not against him.
            1. strannik1985 3 March 2020 16: 26 New
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              But he was not the head of the country

              Of course, but he is a leading representative of the country's military elite, the president and government are civilians, a military assessment of the alleged conflict is not their business.
              1. Dart2027 3 March 2020 16: 35 New
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                Quote: strannik1985
                the president and the government are civilians, military assessment of the alleged conflict is not their business

                Nevertheless, it was he who obeyed them, and not vice versa.
          2. Ovrag 3 March 2020 16: 23 New
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            Yes Yes. Mannerheim is such a strategic sucker that in the end, despite 2 victories (39 and 45), the maximum that the USSR managed to do was to tear Karelia away. At the same time, Finland was a completely independent neighbor. So it remains. And all the plans for any communists inside the country went to one famous place. No claims or reparations were made to them, despite their support for the blockade of Leningrad.

            there is generally no documentary evidence of the desire of the military-political leadership of the USSR to seize Finland.

            But what about the hope of the upsurge of the internal communist movement?
            The calculation was not much to capture. How much to attach. But these are still slightly different things. Everyone expected that thanks to the quick and successful actions of the Red Army, it would be possible to put a puppet government at the head of Finland, which would quickly conclude an alliance with the USSR. But somehow the internal communists did not work out there. We ran out faster than we could do anything.
            1. strannik1985 3 March 2020 16: 37 New
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              We ran out faster than we could do anything

              The USSR was preparing an uprising in Finland ??? Where, when, source ???
          3. Whalebone 3 March 2020 16: 48 New
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            Otto Kuusinen as if hints to you that such plans were. And KFSSR 13th republic.
            1. strannik1985 3 March 2020 16: 58 New
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              The desire to form an FDR in the annexed territory? What about the rest of Finland?
          4. boriz 3 March 2020 18: 31 New
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            Well, you compared Georgia and Sweden!
            Sweden is capable of making both combat aircraft and armored vehicles.
            1. GRANATE-19 5 March 2020 09: 39 New
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              Georgia is also capable, but cannot. ; )
        2. neri73-r 3 March 2020 16: 16 New
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          Quote: Ovrag
          Despite the formal victory of the USSR in the war, in fact Finland retained most of its territory and independence. And most importantly, won an ideological and political victory.

          Liberal tale, read the story! The USSR won more than originally proposed, hard-won Finns lost outright. Georgia doesn’t even shine ..... timid Georgians fled .... (c) - classic, read it!
          1. Ovrag 3 March 2020 16: 29 New
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            What is there to read. Give a short summary of the confrontation of 39-45 years.
            What did the USSR achieve? The rejection of Karelia and part of the land near Leningrad.
            What has Finland achieved? It has remained almost the only country bordering the USSR that has never come under its influence and has fully and fully preserved both economic and political independence, which continues to this day. Forever geopolitically cutting off Scandinavia from the USSR.
            1. neri73-r 3 March 2020 16: 33 New
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              Quote: Ovrag
              What is there to read. Give a short summary of the confrontation of 39-45 years.

              Why not 39-2045? Talk about 39-40 years. Independence was granted to her in 1945 because on time she turned her ass into the right side during WWII. Or do you doubt the capabilities of the USSR in 1945? And so far in neutral, that's why it has been preserved as a state.
              1. Ovrag 3 March 2020 17: 01 New
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                Why not 39-2045?

                Are we still at war?

                Talk about 39-40 years.

                And then why not just the first half of the war in 39? If you already decided to split the conflict. That do not trifle.

                because in time the ass in the right side during WWII turned.

                1. Invade your neighbor.
                2. Capture a bunch of territories.
                3. Arrange a blockade of a multi-million city.
                4. Arranging a small genocide of the Karelian people. Along the way, exporting property, livestock and so on.
                5. Millions of dead and wounded among the civilian population of the USSR.
                6. Hundreds of thousands of soldiers killed by the Red Army.
                7. In time you wag your ass in the right direction and leave absolutely unpunished.
                8 .....
                9 ....
                10. PROFIT!

                And after all the same. One of the most prosperous countries in Europe and the world.

                Well, what. Well done. They lost so much.
                1. neri73-r 3 March 2020 17: 28 New
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                  Quote: Ovrag
                  Well, what. Well done. They lost so much.

                  You can remain with your opinion that does not change the facts of history! hi
                  1. Ovrag 4 March 2020 01: 29 New
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                    Well i.e. there is nothing to parry? Several hundred thousand Karelians were cut out. Several hundred thousand soldiers of the Red Army were killed. They became one of the main reasons for one of the greatest tragedies in the history of the Second World War, actually destroying almost a third of the population of Leningrad. And they went away with impunity. Not paying a dime for it. Ah yes finns. Lost so lost.
                    1. neri73-r 4 March 2020 07: 14 New
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                      Come on, take more, what a Basurman to spare us, millions of soldiers of the Red Army, just as a billion innocent victims were tortured in the gulag! laughing
                      1. Ovrag 4 March 2020 12: 04 New
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                        Do you write the official numbers of the USSR here?
                        Or can you at least get to the wiki?
                        I myself am from a family of blockades. And from childhood I know what horror the city experienced. And the Chukhons came out of the water dry.
                      2. neri73-r 4 March 2020 12: 08 New
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                        Quote: Ovrag
                        Do you write the official numbers of the USSR here?
                        Or can you at least get to the wiki?
                        I myself am from a family of blockades. And from childhood I know what horror the city experienced. And the Chukhons came out of the water dry.

                        Write. Well, ridiculed, blockade.
                      3. Ovrag 4 March 2020 12: 12 New
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                        "Military casualties 332 killed
                        24 324 non-combat losses
                        111 142 Missing
                        Civil casualties
                        16 killed in shelling and bombing
                        632 starved to death
                        “Over the years of the blockade, according to various sources, from 600 thousand to 1,5 million people died. So, at the Nuremberg trials the number was 632 thousand people. Only 3% of them died from bombing and shelling; the remaining 97% died of starvation. on the other hand, in the encyclopedia “The Great Patriotic War of 1941-1945”, published in the military publishing house of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation in 2011-2015, these figures were recognized as significantly underestimated, because “unidentified blockades who died in the city’s borders were not taken into account, and Leningraders who died of starvation during the evacuation process. ""

                        But you, like all Natsiks (and only Natsiks can justify the Chukhons), will quickly change your shoes in the air and say that they say that the Ministry of Defense is starring too. And in general, all the Jews in the General Staff are muddied by numbers.
                      4. neri73-r 4 March 2020 12: 19 New
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                        I do not know where these figures came from, but I know that we took into account all the losses, but on the other hand, only the losses of the Germans. And the combined losses of the European Union 1.0 1941-May 1945 were not taken into account. So yours do not dance. tongue
                      5. Ovrag 4 March 2020 12: 21 New
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                        Those. Is the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation an unknown organization for you?
                        Clearly understood.
            2. ] Well ie there is nothing to parry? Several hundred thousand Karelians were cut out. Several hundred thousand soldiers of the Red Army were killed. They became one of the main reasons for one of the greatest tragedies in the history of the Second World War, actually destroying almost a third of the population of Leningrad. And they went away with impunity. Not paying a dime for it. Ah yes finns. Lost so lost. [/ Quote]

              You have to go to the Echo website eHesovec! [quote = Ovrag
              1. Ovrag 4 March 2020 12: 05 New
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                And you to the company of the Nazis. Those same claim that "almost no one was killed, and in general Hitler wanted to bring the benefit to the territory of the USSR."
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          you just forgot to write. that you are invading when the Germans are next to you and that as soon as the Germans have been piled on, you betray them immediately
  • tihonmarine 3 March 2020 17: 24 New
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    Quote: Ovrag
    Finland is a perfect example at 39. They basically had no chance to win this war.

    Stalin on the results of the Soviet-Finnish said
    From the beginning of the war, we posed two questions to the Finns - choose one from two: either make big concessions, or we will spray you and you will get the Kuusinen government, which will gut your government. So we said to the Finnish bourgeoisie. They preferred to make concessions so that there was no people's government
    That’s the whole story. Finland won no victory.
    1. Ovrag 4 March 2020 01: 42 New
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      Well yes. And what should Stalin have done? Go to the podium and say "Boys, we screwed up. And along the way, almost all the forces of the LenVO were leaked." And put a bullet in your forehead? What else could he say?
      Finns, even after the war, did not pay a penny for all those murders and crimes that they brought to the lands of Leningrad. On their hands is the death of millions of Leningraders and hundreds of thousands of Karelians. And nicho. Stalin didn’t even make a sound.
  • Volzhanin64 3 March 2020 18: 10 New
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    In Finland, we didn’t have a goal to conquer the whole territory, and what we asked them before the war, we achieved quite quickly in the second stage, when we switched from cap-hatters to operations planned and prepared in accordance with all the rules of the war, creating the necessary for the coming side advantage in l / s and technology.
    And as for Georgia, God forbid that the fortified areas will not last long, given the strength of the Russian Air Forces and the RAW and the "high morale" of their fighters.
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    ANB 4 March 2020 01: 31 New
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    . As a result. Despite the formal victory of the USSR in the war, in fact Finland retained most of its territory and independence. And most importantly, won an ideological and political victory.

    Well yes. Won the victory wassat
    And what did I do on the territory the former cottages of the Finnish president in Canellarvi in ​​1984 and 85?
    Such a good victory laughing
    1. tihonmarine 4 March 2020 09: 13 New
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      Quote: ANB
      And what did I do on the territory of the former cottage of the Finnish president in Canellarvi in ​​1984 and 85?

      I don’t know what you did there, but I know the cottage, but since 1945 my aunt lived in Vyborg and my cousins ​​live there to this day. Vyborg was Russian, and in 1940 we returned it.
  • Imperial Technocrat 3 March 2020 15: 28 New
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    What is the offensive? A missile strike - destruction of the remnants of air defense, then massive bombardment. And why then go to the scorched field? Nobody is going to conquer Georgia
    1. Ovrag 3 March 2020 15: 34 New
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      Oh well. Fuck the mountains. Such clever men once dragged the USSR to Afghanistan. Then the same geniuses fought in Chechnya.
      You’d at least once slide into the mountains. Gorevoen.
      1. Okolotochny 3 March 2020 22: 02 New
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        2008 was not enough for you when our units were in the hour march from Tiflis? Sarkozy say thank you. I’ve been begging for it, for begging for it! Sit and do not rock the boat.
  • rocket757 3 March 2020 14: 45 New
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    Georgian army after 2008: were conclusions made

    Pay more attention to such discipline / training as long-distance running?
    1. cniza 3 March 2020 15: 02 New
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      It would be better not to bite the hand, which when she covered it, protected it, warmed it ...
      1. rocket757 3 March 2020 15: 03 New
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        Without memorabilia they ... the virus of "self-sufficiency" strikes relentlessly.
        1. cniza 3 March 2020 15: 06 New
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          It looks more like an ingratitude virus, what were they kept? So no one wanted to join NATO, that’s the result, we would live peacefully and there would be no problems ...
  • Amateur 3 March 2020 14: 52 New
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    Quote: Ovrag
    reinforce the mountainous areas, which, due to the terrain, I can effectively restrain the advance of an even more serious enemy.

    And who was going to attack them? Who needs them with their ambitions and show off.

    Georgian mountain fortified area.
    1. Ovrag 3 March 2020 15: 02 New
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      Counterquestion. And who is going to attack Switzerland?
      Any country should protect itself as much as possible from any invasion. Even the closest friends can become enemies in the moment. Actually, as in ordinary life.
      1. Amateur 3 March 2020 15: 10 New
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        And who is going to attack Switzerland?

        And no one was going and is not going to. In 1944, Schellenberg threatened the Swiss that if they did not arrest the Soviet Dora intelligence network, then the Germans could occupy Switzerland. And the porters immediately eliminated this network. (Sh. Rado. Under the pseudonym "Dora"). So the Swiss army, like the Vatican Swiss guards, is for the "show off." Well, Georgians can also have an army. Nobody forbids them.
        1. Ryazan87 3 March 2020 15: 31 New
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          "In 1944, Schellenberg threatened the Swiss" - you divide this by 10 approximately. In the 44th, the Germans had nothing more to do than launch a military campaign against Switzerland. And who is Schellenberg to “threaten” a particular state. So, he whimpered from the 43rd, they say, "dear Swiss colleagues, cover the red agents, please." They held a year in a Swiss prison, and released.
        2. Actually, the issue of Swiss intervention was in 1942-1943 after the “peaceful and neutral” Swiss stuffed enough Luftwaffe aircraft that Goering drew attention to too warlike neighbors and raised the issue of capture. The issue was considered at the top, but there were enough diplomatic levers. And since 1944, the Swiss brought down and planted not only Germans, but also Americans!
        3. Ovrag 3 March 2020 16: 13 New
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          About the scouts have already answered. I will write a little about Switzerland.

          I was in Switzerland. In Lucerne (Hotel Burgenstock, an incredibly beautiful place) and Zurich. And a little ride around. Was on the ferris bridge and so on.
          So here. I would. I wouldn’t fight there for any carriages. They have everything very good. competently done. Switzerland itself is a network of narrow gorges with impassable mountains connected by rare passes. At the entrance to each gorge is a network of bunkers. Many of which are very carefully disguised (on the top of them are residential buildings, the residents of which contain these bunkers in integrity and safety. Together with weapons and ammunition, which the state regularly updates. There is such a normal topic that people in the basement are several canned machine guns maxim with water cooling). Explosion lines have also been created (the task of closing avalanches in the most dangerous places by avalanches) and so on. And all this is still being shot from above so that a couple of tanks can hold all the suitable enemy forces at gunpoint. And there are simply no options to get around. There is a sheer cliff at 75 degrees. Go ahead and with the song.
          Even now, this is a significant problem. You can hammer through the mountains with bombs, rockets, etc. But quite difficult and in many ways useless. Aviation there is in danger of getting asshole from MANPADS because of each hill. A helicopter corny much lose in their capabilities due to the overall altitude.
          In the general year, the Germans could still be able to capture Switzerland in 41m, at the cost of huge losses. In 44-45 - they could only dream about it. Trite the cost of such a victory would be incredibly disproportionate to the number of preferences from it.
          This is the main defense of any small states. If geography allows. Make victory not impossible. But incredibly expensive.
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            I would. I wouldn’t fight for any carriages there.

            Well, do not fight. You can also not fight in Georgia, New Zealand and generally everywhere.
            1. Ovrag 3 March 2020 17: 06 New
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              Did God give you wings? You would look at those rocks. And I would have looked how you would have mastered at least 200 meters of this rock. Then we would talk.
              1. Amateur 3 March 2020 17: 18 New
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                And I would have looked how you would have mastered at least 200 meters of this rock.

                Excuse me, Mr. Ovrag. Why do I have to climb 200 m. Rock? What would conquer Switzerland? Or conquer Georgia? or maybe just to argue with you? I will not climb. fool
          2. A.TOR 3 March 2020 18: 07 New
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            Notice how many minuses you put?
            And all because they were in Switzerland, and even admire her. For some reason, not Uryupinsky
            1. Ovrag 4 March 2020 01: 25 New
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              Yes, and do not care. If they paid for +. I would have understood. And so pointless garbage. And in Switzerland, everyone can slide. Tea does not fly to the moon. It would be a desire.
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            Quote: Ovrag
            Explosion lines have also been created (the task of closing avalanches in the most dangerous places by avalanches), etc.

            Overlapping paths with avalanches is not a very reliable method if a front loader is available to the interested party. A significant number of dams make Switzerland, by definition, very vulnerable to conflict.
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            About the scouts have already answered. I will write a little about Switzerland.

            Chief, you should write novels!
            How did you climb Swiss cellars and personally saw Maxim machine guns loaded.
            In general, the idea is good, a certain circle of readers will be successful.

            But then it’s not the 18th century, and with attached bayonets no one will climb the mountain to storm.
            ODAB-1500 to you in a chimney, and on this perhaps your entire Swiss army of the 17th century sample will end.

            But, by the way. And write so well, continue.
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              Try to save from breakfast for a ticket. Take a look with your own eyes. If you don’t believe me.
              And about ODAB laughed. Many of you like to rock bombs rock. Have you ever rolled into the Alps or any other rocky mountains. Yes, they looked what they consist of. And how many bombs you will beat there before you get stuck somewhere. Specially prepared mountain bunkers keep a direct hit of atomic charges. And so that there would be a distinct way somewhere. We must directly devote ourselves to this cause. Not for one day.
              And the Swiss will probably sit and wait.
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                Perhaps I’d better save by tram, and not by breakfast. Unless of course you mind. :))))
                And you know, the ODAB does not need to “hollow” and “hollow” anything to get to what's inside, rocky rocks are powerless against them. :))) So you "laughed". :)))
                Sorry, I'm not your reader.
  • Honest Citizen 3 March 2020 14: 54 New
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    better not quarrel with neighbors

    This is the main conclusion that should be made not only in Georgia.
  • cniza 3 March 2020 15: 00 New
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    . For example, things such as the abolition of "obsolete Soviet-style military rankings", the introduction of a uniform that meets NATO standards, are considered a great achievement there,


    Well, how about that joke "... changed furniture ..." ...
  • iouris 3 March 2020 15: 09 New
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    Is it a Georgian resource?
  • parusnik 3 March 2020 15: 10 New
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    Why talk about the conclusions of 2008, made or not made, if the heirs of Menshevik Georgia did not draw conclusions from 1920 ... laughing
  • V.I.P. 3 March 2020 15: 12 New
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    I wonder where they got the money from. What goods do they produce? Wine, mineral water and tourism. Is there anything else? Interesting to me.
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      I wonder where they got the money from.

      This is the right question. I give the correct answer: "from there."
  • Sergey985 3 March 2020 15: 25 New
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    They did not understand the meaning of the text "the giraffe is big, he knows better." Everyone is looking for friends to make friends against the Great Neighbor.
  • Ratmir_Ryazan 3 March 2020 15: 26 New
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    Russia, too, did not learn all the lessons of the 2008 war, just as we didn’t have drone UAVs. But we continue to lose the Su-25 and the pilots.

    But Turkey has a budget 5 times smaller than Russia has and now they are creating huge problems for us in Idlib, causing huge damage to our ally, Syria, destroying the equipment and soldiers of the SAA.

    And all of our air defense along with fighters of almost the 5th generation Su-30/35, can not remove them from the sky. Moreover, Turkey successfully attacks Syrian planes in the Syrian sky.

    What prevents Russia from being on duty on a Su-35 at a distance of using missiles from Idlib with AWACS planes and shooting down all the UAVs that fly there from Turkey ?!

    Can it be that our radars of fighter jets and even AWACS aircraft do not see them or GOS missiles cannot capture the target - UAVs from camposite materials ?!

    So, it’s not in the Georgian army that we need to look for problems, but in our own !!!
    1. iouris 3 March 2020 16: 22 New
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      Russia, too, has not learned all the lessons of the 2008 war

      Well, I couldn’t!
    2. Sergej1972 3 March 2020 16: 46 New
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      Ratmir, good evening! Still updated the information on the ratio of GDP of the Russian Federation and Turkey at face value and PPP? What is there with a difference of 30%? Somehow it’s not good to misinform the site participants.)
      1. Ratmir_Ryazan 3 March 2020 22: 39 New
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        Ratmir, good evening! Still updated the information on the ratio of GDP of the Russian Federation and Turkey at face value and PPP? What is there with a difference of 30%? Somehow it’s not good to misinform the site participants.)


        Read carefully what is written.

        I do not compare GDP, but Russia’s budgets for 2020 - 280 billion dollars, Turkey - 190 billion dollars !!! How much is it?

        Do you understand the difference between budget and GDP ?! Judging by the fact that you write me this rubbish is not the first time not very.

        And the military budget of Russia is 4 times more than that of Turkey, in terms of spending.

        And with all this, Turkey is far ahead of Russia in terms of the level of development and use of shock UAVs !!!!

        And we, with our budget, GDP, S-400, Su-35, AWACS, are only puffing out our cheeks, and the Turks are holding their planes in the air, on the border with Idlib, and they are using missiles to the best of our ability.

        The whole world from China to the USA is already laughing at both our air defense and our fighters.

        If only they would not disgrace, with loud statements.

        Now it is clear?!
        1. Sergej1972 4 March 2020 14: 53 New
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          You wrote on February 29: “The most unpleasant thing for me in this situation is that Turkey is circumventing us in the whole sphere of the military-industrial complex, and Turkey’s military budget is 5 times less than the Russian one, while Turkey’s GDP is only 30% less than Russia's GDP, despite the fact that we sell resources, and they buy. " You spoke in this quote about GDP, and not about the state budget of Turkey. I replied: “Where did you get the information on Turkey’s GDP? Actually, according to the IMF and the World Bank, Turkey’s GDP at face value is exactly half that of Russia and almost twice as much as PPP. And you write about some difference just 30%. " In this case, we are not talking about the state budget, but about GDP. Now it is clear?
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          By the way, the military budget of Turkey is about 20 billion, dollars, that is, not five times less than ours, as you write in one place, and not four, as you write here, but three times.
    3. vlad106 3 March 2020 21: 56 New
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      Russia, too, did not learn all the lessons of the 2008 war, just as we didn’t have drone UAVs. But we continue to lose the Su-25 and pilots

      the authorities do not mind ordinary people. "women still give birth"
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        the authorities do not mind ordinary people. "women still give birth"


        And what women and Su-25 will give birth and immediately trained pilot ?!

        The problem is not in saving, but in the mediocrity of using the allocated funds.
  • Imperial Technocrat 3 March 2020 15: 27 New
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    Even a tiny particle of our armed forces of the 2008 model, which was the pale shadow of our armed forces this year, defeated the rodents to smithereens
  • tochila 3 March 2020 15: 27 New
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    But they have the best choral singing !!! It is a pity there is no such discipline in army games !!!
  • K-50 3 March 2020 15: 36 New
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    Georgian army after 2008: were conclusions made

    The only true conclusion is not to “tease” Russia and not run into “peace enforcement” from it.
    All the rest are fundamentally wrong and can lead to very disastrous results. yes
  • Karaul14 3 March 2020 15: 42 New
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    It is interesting why the Russians believe that Abkhazia and South Ossetia had the right to disconnect from Georgia and Georgia could not restore its territorial integrity by military force, but Chechnya did not have such a right and it could and should have been returned by force.
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      I wonder why the Russians think

      Because de facto residents gained the independence of the republic of Ichkeria to commit crimes left and right, even the railway connection (then there was a railway to Dagestan through Chechnya) had to be interrupted. Because of this, the First Chechen Company happened; the Second began with the Chechen invasion of Dagestan.
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        Yes? And if Chechnya decided to decently leave Russia, would it be allowed to? Yes, right now. This is called the double standards that everyone loves to blame America so much.
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          Yes?

          No, they could try, as Abkhazia, South Ossetia, the Lugansk and Donetsk republics did. Everywhere there was a coup (and in the USSR too).
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          Chechnya was released in Khasavyurt. But they did not calm down. Who called them to Dagestan? By the way, at first the Dagestanis piled on them first, then the Army was already connected.
          Moreover, in the Russian republics no one abolishes autonomy, does not prohibit local languages ​​and culture.
          On the contrary, Russians in Tatarstan learn Tatar. What did the rodents do?
          1. Karaul14 4 March 2020 13: 40 New
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            Chechnya was released in Khasavyurt.
            Not just released, they won such a right.
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          Yes? And if Chechnya decided to decently leave Russia, would it be allowed to?
          Are you Kassandra or something that you know how it would have turned?
    2. Ratmir_Ryazan 3 March 2020 22: 45 New
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      I wonder why the Russians believe that Abkhazia and South Ossetia had the right to disconnect from Georgia and Georgia cannot restore its territorial integrity.


      Because both Abkhazia and Ossetia became part of Russia separately from Georgia.

      And Georgia has no legal or historical rights to these lands, especially after the genocide that Georgian gangs staged in Abkhazia in 92 and a little later in South Ossetia.

      Abkhazia and South Ossetia separated from Georgia in the same way that Georgia was divided from Russia.
      1. Karaul14 4 March 2020 13: 43 New
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        Russia recognized Georgia in its existing borders after the collapse of the USSR, and then violated its obligations. The same story then repeated with Ukraine.
    3. IL-64 4 March 2020 08: 24 New
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      Because in Chechnya they began to kill Russians. I’ve said that the once Russian city (fortress) of Grozny very quickly became ethnically Chechen (how can you read it), as well as all the large villages that used to be Cossack (read Russian). Were ethnic Georgians killed in Abzazia and Ossetia just because they were Georgians before the outbreak of hostilities? Were weapons sold like tangerines in the markets of Abkhazia and Ossetia? Has Georgia’s money been broken up by many millions of dollars, disappearing in Abkhazia and Ossetia? Have Christian countries with extremely aggressive currents of Orthodoxy against the peace-loving Orthodoxy of Georgia helped Abzazia and Ossetia? Given the similarity of the facts of the confrontation of South Ossetia, Abkhazia and Chechnya against the "parent" states, the causes of the conflicts are different.
      1. Karaul14 4 March 2020 13: 50 New
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        Quote: IL-64
        Potrmu that once a Russian city
        What was once a Russian city? Do you know where the original Russian territories are? It was all captured, not in vain Russia is the largest country in terms of territory. Therefore, the attitude is appropriate, because of the war, the peoples want to separate. It is clear that Russia does not want to let them go, but why then does it encourage this in other countries? These are double standards.
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          Georgia, in fact, voluntarily became part of Russia and did not have any right to secession.
          And since it has separated, it has no right to prohibit separation from it.
          Why are you translating all arrows in the Russian Federation? Whom we want, we support it.
          1. Karaul14 4 March 2020 23: 45 New
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            Quote: ANB
            Georgia, in fact, voluntarily became part of Russia and did not have any right to secession.
            And since it has separated, it has no right to prohibit separation from it.
            Why are you translating all arrows in the Russian Federation? Whom we want, we support it.
            Masterpiece conclusion)))
        2. tagil 4 March 2020 17: 39 New
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          Tell Anuka to everyone in what places (where the original Chechen lands were) in the 18th century abreks lived, oh Vainakhs, of course, that's just all the peoples of the Caucasus they were called abreks (bandit if that). Tell me how the first war in the Caucasus began and who started it? Tell me who built the fortress of Grozny and in what places did the Chechens then live? In general, let's cut the truth to the uterus.
        3. IL-64 4 March 2020 22: 19 New
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          That is, you do not know the history of the Grozny fortress. OK. How the Caucasian wars ended You don’t know and why they started too. You don’t know where the Chechens lived when the Cossacks began to settle on the plains of Chechnya, developing agriculture, and how they got their daily bread. OK. You know, in one once popular advertisement there was a wonderful phrase: Sometimes it's better to be silent than to speak.
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            Not from my handout, we drove somewhere into a story that is not as accurate as possible and that every nation is different in the same events. I’m still interested in why no subjects can be disconnected from Russia, including those where they don’t speak Russian, but Abkhazia, etc. is it possible from Georgia? Are these not double standards?
            1. IL-64 5 March 2020 09: 07 New
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              Double, of course. And Kosovo could be separated. And the Turkish Republic of northern Cyprus. That is, that the fortress, (and then the city) Grozny, was a Russian city. Do you not like it? My half-relatives (from a Cossack family) who fled from Chechnya told a lot of things. As in the schools of Grozny in classes for 30 students in the 70s-80s there were only two or three Chechen students. And how in the early 90s they could have killed a Russian on the street because a guy stood up for a girl. And how could they not sell the apartment, because the good sisters, with whom they had been living soul to soul for decades, said, “Why should we buy?” You will leave, or they will kill you, we will get your apartment. Today in Lenta published interesting memoirs of Musa Temishev, the ideologist of the separation of Chechnya from Russia. Read. There is a lot written about Dudaev. There are legal mechanisms for the realization of a nation’s right to self-determination, up to secession. Only here something in Catalonia went wrong a few years ago, in the exercise of this right. In Europe. Did not read?
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                The right of the people to self-determination strongly contradicts the country's right to sovereignty and inviolability of borders. It was just interesting to know by what principle the Russians consider who can and who cannot, turned out, as I thought, the same double standards. Even if we remove Chechnya, in which there are other pitfalls, then on the whole everything remains the same - you cannot disconnect from us, but you can disconnect from others if we want. By what principle Crimea detached, however, remains a mystery, because Russians already have Russia, only Crimean Tatars could try to create their own state.
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                  About Catalonia, what is silently swallowed? And yes, Russians do not forgive when they begin to kill them. Are you really so stupid that you have not read this simple thought?
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                    I actually answered about her at the very beginning, are you really so dumb that you didn’t understand this?

                    Quote: IL-64
                    And yes, Russians do not forgive when they begin to kill them.
                    What should this thought lead to? The Americans do not forgive when they begin to kill them, the Chinese do not forgive when they begin to kill them, etc. talked)))
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                      Whose will you be? Whose will you be, serf, I ask? (with)
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                  Quote: Karaul14
                  . By what principle, Crimea disconnected, however, remains a mystery, because Russians already have Russia, only Crimean Tatars could try to create their own state.

                  Crystal in person fellow Straight second Meehan yes When will you be completely beaten? Admins! Aw!
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                    Quote: Ruslan67
                    Crystal in person Straight second Meehan
                    Sharp nonsense has begun? wassat
  • JonnyT 3 March 2020 15: 59 New
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    So they do not need to fight with Russia. They need to capture Abkhazia and Ossetia, and for these tasks from the sun is enough.
    Russia will be torn apart on all fronts and how much vryatli they can provide substantial assistance, well, maybe it will go along the advancing Georgians with calibers in the Caspian
  • shoroh 3 March 2020 16: 07 New
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    The best army that Georgia had was the Red Army of the Soviet Union. Georgia lived in safety and tranquility. And in the composition with Abkhazia and Ossetia.
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    Russia made much more useful conclusions from that mini-war. ZakVO and especially the aviation of the Russian Federation suffered unjustified losses due to the inability of the commanders to fight and the unwillingness of military equipment then to modern wars. And the conclusions, judging by the Syrian campaign, are correct!
  • chikod 3 March 2020 16: 25 New
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    What a cool analytic stuff :)

    Yes, any victory is important but so proud that:
    Victory over a country that is slightly larger than the Moscow region. And the population is almost four times less than the population of Moscow - 3,5 million people.
    Armed forces for 2008: Georgia has about 37000 people, of all military branches. And the armed forces of the Russian Federation are more than a million people, of all military branches. Only the ground forces of the Russian Federation 425000 people. The 58th Army of the Russian Federation, which conducted the main hostilities in Georgia, 70 people. In the arsenal of the army are 000 tanks, almost 609 thousand infantry fighting vehicles and armored personnel carriers, 2 mortars and guns, 125 Grad installations and 190 anti-aircraft systems, and what the hell knows what.
    And Georgia at that time had about 220 T-72 tanks, less than 200 infantry fighting vehicles and armored personnel carriers. Several multiple launch rocket launchers. Tactical missiles are missing. As there was no fighter aircraft. Only 5 or 7 Su-25 attack aircraft, several helicopters. There are no weapons for electronic warfare.
    Without and the Navy. Several coast guard boats and then only armed with machine guns. This still did not stop you from inventing some sort of missile battle between the Georgian Navy and the Russian Navy. A physical battle, even if Georgia wanted it, could not be. But you even awarded some sailors or someone else because of this battle. Comedy is simple.

    It is as if Valuev was proud to have taught a brazen neighbor to a first-grader a good lesson, beating him half to death.

    Always when I read articles about Georgia, and comments on the article, I become more and more convinced that despite the fact that our path is difficult, long, risky and treacherous, we need to join NATO and that’s right.

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      A thoughtful conclusion, however. That is, Mishiko did not know what to climb into Ossetia - to troll a bear? I will rephrase you - a youngster a bully so zadolbil adult strongly neighbor that he gave him a kick in the ass. I didn’t even hit it, so I forged it slightly.
      Do you need NATO?
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        Georgia did not invade another country.
        Ossetia is part of Georgia which, as current, was officially recognized by the Russian Federation, but only officially.
        But what did the Russian Federation do in Chechnya? Did your country have the right to restore the law in Chechnya? Of course it was!
        So you do not need to look in a strange direction, first you need to look in the mirror and then in others.

        In NATO, whether we need it or not is not important.
        It is important that we need NATO and this is our way.
        1. strannik1985 3 March 2020 17: 20 New
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          And what did the Russian Federation do in Chechnya?

          Forcing poor Chechens to peace. As soon as the Chechens de facto gained independence, a surge of crime occurred in the republic.
          And Mr. Gamsakhurdia decided to arrange ethnic cleansing. "Ossetian people-trash that must be sweep through the Roki tunnel." His words.
    2. Maxim Sibirev 3 March 2020 16: 56 New
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      Duck is not Russia's victory over Georgia. And the victory of the nearest military units in a few days.

      Georgians should spend money on special forces to eliminate some kind of hybrid threat. And to normalize relations with the Ossetians and Abkhazians, as well as to indicate their position in terms of threats to Russia through NATO. And then, maybe they will get back the lost territories through the association.
      ... and all these several tanks and planes are a waste of money
    3. Amateur 3 March 2020 17: 26 New
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      It is as if Valuev was proud to have taught a brazen neighbor to a first-grader a good lesson, beating him half to death.

      So the first-grader didn’t have to do “fingers like a fan”, poop on someone else’s doorstep and attack Valuev’s younger sister. The first grader suddenly decided that if something happened, the uncle would protect him from the sea. But broke off.
      Do not wake famously while it is quiet (Folk wisdom)
    4. Ratmir_Ryazan 3 March 2020 23: 07 New
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      And why do you immediately compare with the whole of Russia, and not with the militia of South Ossetia ?! In 2008, Georgia, with 29 professional soldiers and officers, hundreds of tanks and infantry fighting vehicles, attacked Ossetians, who had 000 militias and several old tanks.

      There is something to be proud of Georgia ?!

      It is not necessary to compare all the armed forces of Russia and Georgia and in this way justify the Georgian army. Compare the forces that were used and you will see that on that site, Russia had 10 soldiers in Abkhazia and Ossetia + 000 Ossetian militias and slightly more Abkhaz militias.

      That is, the forces were almost equal that were involved, and behind Georgia there was also the advantage of the first strike. But Georgia was enough for 5 days.

      The tanks of Georgia were even more modern than those of Russia, since they went through modernization in Israel, the Georgians had better communications, and had powerful air defense.

      Georgia also had missile boats, it’s not visible on the radar exactly what kind of boat it is with a machine gun or anti-ship missiles, therefore, after the missile’s preventive launch, some of your boats were hit and this is the reward for the combat mission and victory over the enemy. And the fact that Georgia did not have missile boats on the move is the fault of Georgia, not Russia.

      Georgia not only lost in that war, but lost with a bang and with shame.

      And do not forget that NATO membership is a tribute to the US to a greater extent, since the country where these bases are located pays for the maintenance of NATO bases and you also have to buy weapons from the USA at the market price.

      But NATO will not fight for you, but you are already fighting for them, spend your money and the lives of your soldiers on this.

      What did you get in return? And nothing but a simplified opportunity to abandon Georgia and work in the West. You have become voluntary ostarbeiters for them and feed their army.

      Shame on Georgia.
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      They do not take aggressors into NATO and do not intervene for them. Well, except for the elite, to whom the limitrophs do not belong.
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      You would then choose as an example how the USA smashed Grenada. there was nothing at all. even tanks and guns. and only one question for you, why on earth did you decide that someone from NATO would be ready to die for you. To promise to marry does not mean that there will be a wedding
  • Whalebone 3 March 2020 16: 41 New
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    The conclusion can be one - sit quietly, do not bully the neighbors. The big uncle may not come (he won’t), and they will definitely kick the ass.
    As for the combat arms, then everything is correct. Georgians generally need a very compact ground army where pros are officers and sergeants, a universal conscription for a year and a large mobilization reserve, like in Switzerland, so that you can arm any adult man so that everyone has a military school and training camp every year for a couple of weeks. They are not to buy submarines.
  • Ros 56 3 March 2020 17: 00 New
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    As there M.Yu. Lermontov in "Mtsyri" - ..... timid Georgians fled. Here is the conclusion: that under Lermontov they ran, that during 08.08.08 they ran, just the same they will run on occasion in the future.
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    They need to prepare for a performance in Turkey. The current Sultan Erdogan there has developed unprecedented agility for the restoration of the Ottoman Empire.
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      Turks do not need Georgians. They only need territory. So what is the introduction? It is necessary to prepare for the move.
      Actually, it is not at all clear why Georgia is being bullied, because it seems that Georgians live in Moscow more than in Georgia itself.
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    "Hold out until the Americans come." Here are just the experience of 2008 shows that they most likely will not come at all

    "But help did not come, reinforcements were not sent, in general, these are the things: you and I ... were raped"
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    Quote: chikod
    And Georgia at that time had about 220 T-72 tanks, less than 200 infantry fighting vehicles and armored personnel carriers. Several multiple launch rocket launchers. Tactical missiles are missing. As there was no fighter aircraft. Only 5 or 7 Su-25 attack aircraft, several helicopters. There are no weapons for electronic warfare.

    Therefore, on the advice of the “elder”, they decided a little bit under the guise of the Olympics ... to kill the Russian peacekeepers with machine guns and machine guns ... But when they got the answer in the head, they were very surprised and offended ...
    We are all eager for NATO ... Panacea, yeah!
    And what, NATO countries allow themselves to kill a Russian soldier?
    Or are the leaders there not so crazy as Saakashvili? And they understand what they will get for this on the head, as part of NATO, or not as part of ...
    And there, according to Article 5 of the NATO charter, they get everything at once! Strong! Or everyone unanimously rejects, leaving the hapless bully one-on-one with the bear (guess the option of actions from once!).
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    And I thought that they changed kirzachi to sneakers !!! Well, to make the relocation faster !!! Our women, and theirs are not already there !!! Already in another place .....
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    All this makes no sense. Conflicts with Turkey, Armenia and Azerbaijan are not and are not expected. In the confrontation with the Russian Armed Forces there is no chance.
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    Quote: chikod
    Georgia did not invade another country.

    Georgia now has all the opportunities, both for economic expansion and for the purchase of local elites. Russia so far has no politics and had no, and under certain conditions (if Georgia were a little smarter) it would surrender both Abkhazia and Ossetia, just as it did with Adzharia (and many of its other allies).
  • Kaetani 3 March 2020 23: 36 New
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    For all the nuances of the past, and it was different for the Georgians (probably a lot in their history depends on who they are fighting shoulder to shoulder with) one should never underestimate the possible threats. The land component of the Georgian army is sufficiently prepared for warfare at its theater of operations. With a constant stream of support from their new comrades who are not comrades to us at all and constant combat training, even without being a serious opponent for the Russian army as a whole, their units can hypothetically create a lot of problems. They have a good mountain range (Sachkher center) with decent training for warfare in mountain conditions. The constant practice of mortar calculations. There is no problem with communication. Good military medical training. Permanent exercises is this bad for the army? Any army. Even participation in various companies with its owner gives a certain experience. Even in the field of electronic intelligence, they are practically not inferior in our capabilities. It is clear that their RER units are near the border with NATO experts, but still.
    According to the article - everything is common. Not for this resource in fact an article.
    A Georgian standing in line with a Russian will not differ much from the Wonderful Hero of Suvorov and Kutuzov. Because together with us they will be for a just cause. And to be mongrel of the State Department, it is definitely to be again those who cowardly fled.
    But underestimate again, this is stupid. Their intelligence continuously works both in the territory of Abkhazia and in the territory of South Ossetia.
    And they are being prepared to be thrown into a meat grinder at X hour. Where they also drink a lot of blood.
  • IL-64 3 March 2020 23: 42 New
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    A couple of pages of text about nothing. Even the number of equipment and personnel, the author did not bother to bring.
  • Vdi73 4 March 2020 12: 18 New
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    For the attack and death of our soldiers, Georgia had to be liquidated as a state. Because of their cowardice against Russia, the weaklings will continue to spoil and spit, until Russia begins to knock out its teeth and really beat, rather than brush it off.
  • Mikhail Pogorelov 5 March 2020 06: 25 New
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    Author, are you at all in the material? Which "... were defeated by Abkhaz militia and Russian conscripts ..."? What are you talking about? I will not speak for paratroopers in Abkhazia, but they did not fight with the Georgian army. But all the units that entered the South Ossetia ... of the Army were 100% staffed by contract soldiers back in 2006. And I know for sure, since I myself served in 01860. And we received fighters from them who refused to sign the contract and, in turn, sent to them their signatories. And also EMNIP in 2005. a normative act was issued that severely limited the use of draftees in the database. In principle, there couldn’t be any recruits there.
  • GRANATE-19 5 March 2020 09: 36 New
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    All this skanoy "army" had to go and drown in the Black Sea after this ..
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  • Antonio_Mariarti 5 March 2020 11: 34 New
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    We have to do something with Georgia, try to return it, otherwise the brothers in faith have become enemies ...
  • Jarserge 5 March 2020 13: 39 New
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    Fighters cannot come out of Georgians, and isolated cases only confirm the rule
  • tolmachiev51 8 March 2020 03: 54 New
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    One cannot be understood by the flawed ones - where the Russians are, there will never be Americans because they know for sure, for them it will be a complete fiasco.
  • NF68 8 March 2020 17: 31 New
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    Conclusions have been drawn - now the Georgian military is being intensely taught to quickly run long distances.