Turkish Air Force: quantity and quality


Preparing for departure from the Inzhirlik base, 2019


Another round of tension in the Middle East is taking place with the active participation of the Turkish air forces. This type of troops provides reconnaissance, striking at ground targets and performing some other tasks. Consider the structure, strength and potential of the Turkish Air Force.

Bases and parts


According to open data, currently serves in the Turkish Air Force approx. 50 thousand people, including civilian personnel. It operates 15 airbases evenly distributed throughout the country. All this allows you to attract any part in the work in the entire airspace of Turkey and in the surrounding regions. In particular, the opportunity was provided for active work in the northern parts of Syria.

The Air Force has several commands responsible for different areas of activity. Under the command of the military command, there are almost three dozen squadrons of various purposes, including somewhat temporarily inactive. Combat command is responsible for tactical Aviation, UAV and air defense. The training command manages the work of 6 squadrons and several schools that train personnel. Managed by the transport command - approx. 10 parts and organizations.


F-16C fighter at demonstration events

Active fighter-bomber aviation is now represented by 9 squadrons using various types of equipment. There are two tactical reconnaissance squadrons; Squadron formed AWACS. Auxiliary tasks are solved by one squadron of refueling aircraft and one search and rescue service. Air defense includes up to 8-10 divisions, excluding the latest S-400 air defense systems.

Material part


The basis of tactical aviation of the Turkish Air Force are F-16C / D fighter-bombers of several modifications. In total, there are more than 240 such aircraft, but only 158 are assigned to combat units. The rest are operated by training squadrons. The second type of combat aircraft is F-4E in an amount of up to 48 units. There are no other fighters in Turkey. In the future, it was planned to purchase a significant number of modern F-35s, but these deliveries were disrupted for political reasons.

Combat aviation should be supported by 4 Boeint 737 AEW & C AWACS aircraft, 7 Boeing KC-135R tankers and 1 Transall C-160 with electronic warfare equipment. The reconnaissance tasks over land and sea are solved by 2 patrol CASA CN-235. There is an order for 4 Bombardier Global 6000 aircraft in reconnaissance configuration.


F-16 during joint NATO exercises

The Turkish Air Force has a well-developed military transport aircraft. It is based on CN-235 aircraft in an amount of 41 units. There are also 16 Lockheed C-130B / E aircraft. The supply of Airbus A400M transporters continues. Of the 10 aircraft ordered, the customer has already received 9. The helicopter fleet of transport aircraft is represented by Bell UH-1H (57 units) and Eurocopter AS332 (21 units). In the near future, the delivery of 6 Sikorsky T-70 helicopters manufactured under an American license is expected.

In parts of the training command there are many different types of equipment. The most popular samples are F-16C / D fighters in the amount of 87 units. 68 Northrop T-38 Talon aircraft and 23 units remain in operation. Canadair NF-5A / B. An important role in training is played by KAI KT-1 and SIAI-Marchetti SF.260 aircraft - 40 and 35 units. respectively. Planned updating of the fleet of training machines. For this, orders were placed for TAI Hürkuş aircraft of our own design and for Pakistani PAC MFI-17 Mushshak. TAI has already handed over to the customer the first machine of its assembly.

Turkish Air Force is actively developing the direction of unmanned aerial vehicles. In service there are reconnaissance UAVs and vehicles with strike capabilities. The bulk of this fleet are reconnaissance vehicles. These are Bayraktar Mini (up to 140 units), Vestel Karayel and Malazgirt (less than 10 units each) of Turkish manufacture, as well as Israeli IAI Heron (up to 10 units).


F-4E fighters remain in service

The UAV drum fleet includes about a hundred Bayraktar TB2 products and no more than 15-16 TAI ANKA devices. Deliveries of such equipment continue. Such drones are actively used by the air forces in the sky above hot spots, which leads to losses. The last such incident took place just the other day.

The Air Force has at its disposal various air defense systems. The most massive air defense system in the Turkish air force is the British Rapier 2000 - 515 launchers of 86 batteries. Remain in the service are quite old MIM-23 Hawk XXI - 16 batteries. The Russian S-400 systems in the form of 4 batteries were delivered. Hundreds of anti-aircraft artillery systems are still in service, including modernized using modern components.

Since 2012, the Air Force has been operating the Göktürk-2 spacecraft. This product is intended for optical reconnaissance in several ranges. In 2016, the satellite “constellation” was replenished with the second unit - the Göktürk-1 device. It solves the same problems as its predecessor, but differs in higher characteristics.


Aircraft AWACS Boeing 737 AEW & C

Development prospects


The Turkish command plans to develop the Air Force, but this process may face serious problems. So, one of the combat aviation development programs has actually stopped, and the continuation of others remains in question.

Great expectations were placed on the purchase of American F-35 fighters. There was an order for 30 cars; the general plans included the purchase of 120. Several squadrons, currently inactive due to the lack of suitable aircraft, were supposed to be transferred to new equipment. However, the United States refused to supply its aircraft due to disputes surrounding another international contract.

An attempt is being made to create their own 5th generation fighter. TAI is responsible for the TF-X project, which does not yet have the necessary experience. Now the project is in its early stages, but the first flight of the prototype is promised to be carried out in 2023-25. By the beginning of the thirties ready serial production should enter the troops.


KC-135R Refueling Machine

For several years, the development of the promising Göktürk-3 radar reconnaissance satellite has been underway. The launch of this device has been repeatedly delayed and has not yet been implemented. Its commissioning should significantly increase the potential of the existing few space groups.

General conclusions


At the moment, the Turkish air forces have a specific look, as a result of which there are both advantages and disadvantages. In the current state, they are able to solve assigned tasks and carry out combat work of one kind or another, but in this context, there are significant limitations.

Against the background of other countries of the region, Turkish military aviation looks numerous and developed. There are good quantitatively (approx. 300 units) tactical aircraft and various auxiliary units. At the same time, the Air Force is armed mainly with old equipment, which, despite all the modernization, is noticeably inferior to full-fledged modern models. Attempts are being made to obtain new technology, but they are difficult. In particular, the purchase of promising F-35 aircraft is impossible due to disagreements with the United States.


Göktürk-2 reconnaissance satellite model

A different situation is observed in the field of auxiliary aviation. There are several contracts for the supply of new equipment of various kinds. However, according to the results of this, the proportion of old samples remains very high. To change the ratio of old and new technology will require some time and considerable funding.

The state of affairs in the field of UAVs has led to moderate optimism. The devices of several models of the main classes are produced and operated, which allows to some extent compensate for the backlog in manned aircraft. However, the active operation of the UAV in the combat zone leads to losses.

As the events of recent years show, the Turkish Air Force is quite capable of performing combat missions of various kinds in various conditions. However, the advantages over surrounding countries are not decisive. Combat work is regularly accompanied by losses and does not always end with the successful completion of a mission. However, the military and political leadership of Turkey considers such costs acceptable and justified in achieving their goals. How true is this approach - time should show.
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  1. Orel 3 March 2020 06: 13 New
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    The Air Force is quite combat-ready for its tasks, for the country's defense and actions in the border regions, quite suitable, of course they do not claim world leadership, a strong middle peasant
    1. Aerodrome 3 March 2020 06: 15 New
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      Quote: Orel
      The Air Force is quite combat-ready for its tasks, for the country's defense and actions in the border regions, quite suitable, of course they do not claim world leadership, a strong middle peasant

      while UAVs are used, we have to catch up with ... Turkey ... Turkey!
      1. qQQQ 3 March 2020 21: 58 New
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        Quote: Aerodrome
        while UAVs are used, we have to catch up with ... Turkey ... Turkey!

        Turkey has a very important advantage in front of us in this matter - they do not need to create a satellite constellation neither for control, nor for communication, nor for positioning. But we need, and at its elemental base, which we have safely torn, UAV itself is only the most insignificant part, and if we add algorithms and technologies for control, encryption of signal transmission and reception, I think that the creation of a domestic UAV is in this rests, and the Turks, with a clear conscience, use all the achievements and satellites of the United States, it does not roll us. In general, to create domestic UAVs, it is necessary to recreate several areas of industry, science, and in a market so to speak, all this is not very fast and expensive (taking into account "misuse"). I want to believe that all the same they will bring to mind.
  2. bessmertniy 3 March 2020 06: 17 New
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    The Turkish Air Force is demonstrating that this country is itself a very serious adversary, even without any support from NATO. That's allies pretty cool show their willingness to take the side of Turkey in the conflict, where they have to quarrel with Russia. what
    1. Sergey_G_M 3 March 2020 06: 54 New
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      Allies of Turkey who?
      NATO - I’m not sure, considering the graters between Turkey and Greece, plus the fact that Turkey got into Libya and gets in the way of Italy, France and other freebie lovers (they bombed Libya, and then some Turks appeared - a mess).
      NATO for Europe is needed to save money on national defense budgets and EVERYTHING, they can’t get anywhere without the USA. And the United States will most likely fit in only if Turkey pays for it by changing Endrogan, which I think I don’t agree with.
      So the question is - does Turkey have allies?
      1. maidan.izrailovich 3 March 2020 08: 25 New
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        So the question is - does Turkey have allies?

        If we are talking about the confrontation of Russia, then the allies (jackals) will run inadvertently. And these are not only Anglo-Saxons. Already yapping about the "war crimes" of Russia.
        1. Sergey_G_M 3 March 2020 10: 17 New
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          We often understand the situation, focusing on the information field in which we are, but it is limited and does not give a complete picture.
          They are yapping at Turkey no less than at us. Europeans do not like Turkey to blackmail them with a possible flow of refugees, blocking (by force) gas development on the shelf of the island of Cyprus and interfering in the division of Libya. Plus Endrogan not so long ago barely fought off the putsch, in which Amer’s ears stuck out of all the cracks, they apparently wanted to overthrow him with a lot of love.
          It’s not profitable for states now to turn Russia even further to China; But who needs the Turks, who already annoy everyone and have already fumbled, a question.
          Why did Endrogan fly to Moscow, and not to Europe or the United States? Yes, because he knows that they will send him far and for a long time, he didn’t visit anyone there to destroy his adventures.
          Jackals will come running here without question, the question is: who, whom, for what, where and with whom will bite together.
          Most likely they will scam both us and the Turks in the media, and at the same time not interfere. And it’s not because they like it or not, just intervening so far is not beneficial for anyone.
  3. g1washntwn 3 March 2020 07: 16 New
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    Given that each F-16 take-off is controlled by the United States, their surprised and aloof facial expressions in this conflict look more than stupid.
    1. mammadov teymur 3 March 2020 08: 35 New
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      The Turks have long changed all the electronic stuffing on their aircraft
      1. neri73-r 3 March 2020 09: 38 New
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        Quote: mammadov teymur
        The Turks have long changed all the electronic stuffing on their aircraft

        Who will give them! Ukrainians also say that they are independent, but there is a gap between words and real independence!
        1. mammadov teymur 4 March 2020 09: 26 New
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          they don’t take it, they collect all the engines they produce together under the license of lokhid with martin together acre do not think of the Turks as incapable, if you know Turkish google on this topic you will find a lot of interesting things. at the expense of Ukraine, I respected from the Slavic peoples
          1. neri73-r 4 March 2020 09: 29 New
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            Quote: mammadov teymur
            they don’t take it, they collect all the engines they produce together under the license of lokhid with martin together acre do not think of the Turks as incapable, if you know Turkish google on this topic you will find a lot of interesting things. at the expense of Ukraine, I respected from the Slavic peoples

            Do not tell my slippers, the Anglo-Saxons have always kept their vassals for Faberge and will never let go, they replaced the electronics, laughter.
            1. Oquzyurd 4 March 2020 18: 26 New
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              If you had information about Aselsan and Havelsan, you wouldn’t write such things. The Turks have advanced far in combat electronics, programming and in creating crypto blocks for flying vehicles. For example, the same Bayraktar TV2 combat UAVs are controlled by six program blocks created by Aselsan, from and to.
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                      8. Oquzyurd April 14 2020 22: 38 New
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                        There are more than 200 countries in the world, and they have achieved recognition at the parliament level in 20 or 22 countries. And this is not a court decision, but only a political one that does not have a binding law. At this pace, get recognition from everyone in 300-400 years, good luck. the world understands that the numbers are bloated, the story is largely created by the hands of the Armenians themselves, based more on legends than on evidence.
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    2. Oquzyurd April 14 2020 22: 07 New
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      "Byzantium had to kill all the Seljuks in 1071, so they knew," They didn’t interrupt, they couldn’t, and that’s what it is for you. You were also slaves in Byzantium, what difference does it make to you?
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      2. Oquzyurd April 14 2020 22: 15 New
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        Good luck on your fantasies lol
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      4. Oquzyurd April 14 2020 22: 26 New
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        What’s the matter for you? The dispute between Georgia and Azerbaijan. David Gareji was not built by Georgians or Turks, the ancient Albanians built. There is a border, part of the church is in Georgia, part is in Azerbaijan. It's not your business, in short.
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      6. Oquzyurd April 14 2020 22: 40 New
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        There is a border, part of the church is in Georgia, part is in Azerbaijan. What do you not understand?
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  • g1washntwn 3 March 2020 10: 39 New
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    TAI collects F-16 screwdrivers under the supervision of Lockheed Martin, what kind of restriction of access to the changes is discussed? Turkey has just begun talking about its own 5th generation fighter.
    1. mammadov teymur 4 March 2020 09: 33 New
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      and what is your position at TAI
    2. mammadov teymur 4 March 2020 09: 38 New
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      with a 5th generation exterminator, they are busy as a tight year, and they are also working on the sixth generation, although it will be unmanned
  • Krasnodar 3 March 2020 12: 38 New
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    Quote: mammadov teymur
    The Turks have long changed all the electronic stuffing on their aircraft

    About 13 years ago. To Israeli)).
    1. mammadov teymur 4 March 2020 09: 11 New
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      if Israel is an example, as well as Aselsan ov Made
    2. Dmitry Vinner 4 March 2020 18: 56 New
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      I remember that Israel refused to Turkey. Then the relationship was already starting to go bad.
      1. Krasnodar 4 March 2020 19: 20 New
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        Erdogan set electronics to the first show-offs
  • Last centurion 3 March 2020 07: 37 New
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    maybe this (well, that under Idlib) is Erdogan’s cunning move to get the f-35? such as "help anyone who can." and then Trump’s heart will melt ... :)
  • Klingon 3 March 2020 07: 53 New
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    and the Turks far surpassed our VKS in equipping and using UAVs - this is our ficus!
    1. Grits 3 March 2020 17: 57 New
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      Quote: Klingon
      and the Turks far surpassed our VKS in equipping and using UAVs - this is our ficus!

      In this regard, not only the Turks surpassed us. We were even surpassed by countries that my daughter, a schoolgirl, could not find on the map. She said that there probably aren’t.
    2. kiborg 3 March 2020 17: 58 New
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      But they don’t have a Hunter, but with us he will appear soon ...
      1. SovAr238A 3 March 2020 21: 14 New
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        Quote: kiborg
        But they don’t have a Hunter, but with us he will appear soon ...


        All wars begin suddenly.
        Here and now.
        Without waiting for the appearance of "soon" - some sort of mythical hunters ....
        1. kiborg 4 March 2020 09: 34 New
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          Nobody will climb to Russia. This was clear 20 years ago, when the army did not have precision weapons. A lot has changed in recent years. Five more years and no one will stop the army ... They will bring to mind both Armata and the su-57, and much more.
          Americans, of course, will crap, .. but they can’t do anything.
          1. SovAr238A 4 March 2020 10: 11 New
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            Quote: kiborg
            Nobody will climb to Russia. This was clear 20 years ago, when the army did not have precision weapons. A lot has changed in recent years. Five more years and no one will stop the army ... They will bring to mind both Armata and the su-57, and much more.
            Americans, of course, will crap, .. but they can’t do anything.


            Su-24 shot down? Shot down ...
            In Afghanistan, our planes shot down? They shot down.

            Nobody climbed, in your opinion?
            1. kiborg 4 March 2020 10: 43 New
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              Nobody will climb to Russia.

              To Russia! There will be no military intervention against Russia. They will not attack with rockets either. For there is a nuclear club and not a weak army, which is strengthening every year.
              As for the Su-24 and the Afghan, these events occurred on foreign territory.
              Americans in Afghanistan for 20 years of their stay lost 3000 people. And this seems to be a powerful, and also a nuclear power. Iran gouged missiles at their base. After all, they are also on foreign territory. So in Vietnam lost 60000 soldiers ..
              So the peaceful sky of Russia is provided, and outside the country you need to act carefully.
              1. SovAr238A 4 March 2020 11: 05 New
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                Quote: kiborg
                Nobody will climb to Russia.

                To Russia! There will be no military intervention against Russia. They will not attack with rockets either. For there is a nuclear club and not a weak army, which is strengthening every year.
                As for the Su-24 and the Afghan, these events occurred on foreign territory.
                Americans in Afghanistan for 20 years of their stay lost 3000 people. And this seems to be a powerful, and also a nuclear power. Iran gouged missiles at their base. After all, they are also on foreign territory. So in Vietnam lost 60000 soldiers ..
                So the peaceful sky of Russia is provided, and outside the country you need to act carefully.


                To Russia?

                Those. you can beat ours anywhere, outside the borders of Russia, so chtoli?

                Flush our warships in international waters.
                Shoot down our planes in the Syrian or Georgian or Afghan skies.

                It is possible, it is normal - you think so ...


                The main thing is not within the borders of Russia - do I understand you correctly?
                You somehow always find excuse for our failures.
                All the time change your shoes on the fly and on the run ...

                And then what is the point of our armament - if it is destroyed by everyone who is not lazy ???
                1. kiborg 4 March 2020 11: 36 New
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                  Well, why this hysteria? I said that no one and nothing is threatening Russia, so you can safely build up your military-industrial potential. And abroad you need to act carefully. This means that it is necessary to build good neighborly relations and not provoke once again. How did this happen with the su-24, which was shot down by the Turks in Syria. Just while our army is not ready for waging large-scale wars on foreign territory. Therefore, it is necessary to strengthen the country's defense capability, which is gradually being done. And once again do not get caught. Still need to deal with their economies, which, unfortunately, do not ...
      2. silver_roman 3 March 2020 23: 23 New
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        in the prototype war of the Russian Federation, it will surely defeat everyone, but unfortunately the war is waged by serial machines
      3. mammadov teymur 4 March 2020 09: 29 New
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        already collect
  • EXPrompt 3 March 2020 08: 15 New
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    Quote: Aerodrome
    while UAVs are used, we have to catch up with ... Turkey ... Turkey!


    Do not be foolish ...
    Well ... and how many wars in the world today for 2020 won only UAVs?
    The list of the list .. lay out the war here)))


    All this is garbage. Wars are not won by drones, but by the ground army, reliably covered by air defense and fighter jets. At the same time, carrying out tactics of unpunished bombing and missile ular against the enemy.
    The Turks, having only UAVs and artillery assets on the territory of Syria, cannot provide the conditions for victory, and therefore they cannot win.
    1. maidan.izrailovich 3 March 2020 08: 34 New
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      Well ... and how many wars in the world today for 2020 won only UAVs?
      The list of the list .. lay out the war here)))

      The question is incorrect.
      How many wars do you know won by one particular type of weapon? There is no such.
      Any war, even won, even lost, is a complex use of weapons.
      Some weapons made a greater contribution to the victory, some less, but in any case it is a complex application of all that is.
      The UAV era is just beginning. And the task here is not to be late. This can and should be said.
      1. Ka-52 3 March 2020 13: 30 New
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        The UAV era is just beginning.

        you still say that the era of the wheel begins. UAVs have long been actively used. Primarily as optical and radar reconnaissance. It’s just that you, the followers of the UAV strike sect, have a field of view beyond this segment of weapons.
      2. Grits 3 March 2020 17: 59 New
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        Quote: maidan.izrailovich
        The UAV era is just beginning. And the task here is not to be late. This can and should be said.

        It is safe to say that the Turks were the first to open this era in February 2020.
    2. Ka-52 3 March 2020 08: 38 New
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      Well ... and how many wars in the world today for 2020 won only UAVs?

      Do not step on a sore spot for adherents of faith in shock UAVs. After all, they do not want to admit that in all military operations with the use of military aircraft, without exception, many times dominated precisely managed. It was on their account that the number of bombings, discharges and launches of the WTO, as well as affected objects, was recorded at times more. Although the UAV fleet in the United States alone is already numerically almost half of all military aircraft.
    3. KVK1 3 March 2020 11: 40 New
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      Do not be foolish ...
      Well ... and how many wars in the world today for 2020 won only UAVs?

      but I generally think cavalry is better soldier
  • bar
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    The topic of personnel, in particular pilots after the mass repressions of 2015, was not disclosed.
    1. voyaka uh 3 March 2020 16: 39 New
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      This is the main thing!
      Their air force was first-class before the coup attempt against Erdogan. Then some of the Air Force officers were arrested, and more than half of the F-16 combat pilots were fired. And I had to recruit and learn new, loyal to the regime.
      Therefore, it is not known exactly how many experienced fighter pilots they have.
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        as practice shows, if necessary, they easily pull the previously dismissed officers back into the army. in addition, the majority of pilots who left for a civilian work in the semi-state Turkish Airlines.
  • zyablik.olga 3 March 2020 10: 07 New
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    Unfortunately, the author was not critical in collecting material during the preparation of the publication.
    The most massive air defense system in the Turkish air force is the British Rapier 2000 - 515 launchers of 86 batteries. Remain in the service are quite old MIM-23 Hawk XXI - 16 batteries.

    These data are overstated several times.
    The second type of combat aircraft is F-4E in an amount of up to 48 units.
    In the Turkish Air Force, F-4E has been decommissioned for several years, there is a squadron of RF-4E scouts.
    23 units Canadair NF-5A / B.

    Only 8-9 disarmed aircraft in the aerobatic team.
  • Bersaglieri 3 March 2020 16: 12 New
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    Taking into account NATO membership and "warehouses on Incirlik" - it is quite balanced.
  • Klingon 4 March 2020 00: 46 New
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    Quote: Gritsa
    Quote: Klingon
    and the Turks far surpassed our VKS in equipping and using UAVs - this is our ficus!

    In this regard, not only the Turks surpassed us. We were even surpassed by countries that my daughter, a schoolgirl, could not find on the map. She said that there probably aren’t.

    colleague, it's sad however drinks
  • EXPrompt 5 March 2020 00: 21 New
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    Quote: maidan.izrailovich
    Well ... and how many wars in the world today for 2020 won only UAVs?
    The list of the list .. lay out the war here)))

    The question is incorrect.
    How many wars do you know won by one particular type of weapon? There is no such.
    Any war, even won, even lost, is a complex use of weapons.
    Some weapons made a greater contribution to the victory, some less, but in any case it is a complex application of all that is.
    The UAV era is just beginning. And the task here is not to be late. This can and should be said.



    Who taught you to answer a question with a question?
    I actually said exactly the same thing; the Turks do not have the whole line of methods and means for applying in this conflict.
    It’s worth simply assessing what Erdogan can throw on the victory scales, and that Assad is under the cover of Putin’s VKS.
    So far, apart from UAVs and Arta with m-60t tanks, they can’t throw anything.
    Unlike Assad and Putin, there is everything you want including rocket attacks, and most importantly, Assad’s air supremacy.
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    Not when you don’t need to underestimate your opponent, it hurts very painfully.
  • Sarkazm 5 March 2020 10: 15 New
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    Quote: kiborg
    Well, why this hysteria? I said that nobody and nothing threatens Russia ...
    The USSR, too, no one and nothing could threaten a direct attack and aggression. Where is the USSR?
    The USSR is a union of something, and we are also a union of something. Both of these terms are like expansion joints, everything breaks up along them. This laid a time bomb and for us, including ... They will not beat us from the outside, they will hit us from the inside. And a blow from the inside is worse and more dangerous for us - a civil war.
    For all my rejection of the person of Zhirinovsky, there are two things that he correctly showed - to wash boots in the Indian Ocean, I recall the military-technical cooperation with India saved many industries and the governorate of the country with a single law, here slip. And now, having started shredding the Constitution in order to remain in power, one can see jealousy of Brezhnev and fear after Gaddafi, among other things, introducing some incomprehensible territories, instead of eliminating national and long-ineffective birdhouses, all the more dangerous and separatism and internal conflicts.

    Our "probable friends" study all our problems and meticulously study them, this is also WAR and military operations. Corruption - OK, to daddy, blue - great, to daddy, pedophile - awesome, to daddy. Yes, our authorities, IMHO, cranks and there is only moving to the cell, and not the next term, but alas, we can not do anything about this, except for one, being pragmatists do not insist on provoking external forces, tomorrow at one o’clock we will not be hit by Tridents but these daddies ... Why waste resources on us when we can do everything ourselves? ... Vanguard is good, Sarmat is even better, Borey is excellent, but they will not help here.
    So far, we have come across an example of how a composite model of a Turkish school student can put up an army with cancer, yes a weakened one, and a rabble in fact, but an army. Tomorrow, even an UAV will not be needed, many countries with dozens of aircraft, hundreds of tanks and armored personnel carriers, tens of thousands of soldiers and a budget of billions will win with a laptop worth a thousand dollars. And the reason for this is internal fundamental problems, you can be a poor country, or you can be robbed, in the latter case, the premise is created, the first step to defeat ...

    It’s not at all a topic like, but just gentlemen, stop hoping for nuclear weapons, a laptop and daddy are more dangerous for us. Well, remember, in the congress of one country they set the deadline for the report and hearings on the accounts of the leader of another country, were there any hearings? ... But this was an ultimatum, and since there were no reports and hearings, and then there were no publications, then two answers were either not found (believe?) or our boy sold out (believe?), or the golden mean - he passed something or someone on the little things ... What was there in the news? ...
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    TAI collects F-16 screwdrivers under the supervision of Lockheed Martin, what kind of restriction of access to the changes is discussed? Turkey has just begun talking about its own 5th generation fighter.

    Here you are a little past and the "Friends of Turkey Club" overestimates the capabilities of TAI, Aselsan, Havelsan and other -san (the prefix meaning industry).
    In all of this, only one thing is important that Turks from all veins are drawn to create their own school. We started in the 80s and, as you can see from a clean slate, everything is very hard to do, it’s a warning to us that if you lose it later and don’t build it tomorrow, it will take decades.
    F-4 Turkish Air Force modernized by Israel.
    For F-16, Turks are completely dependent on the United States and others. Turkey cannot directly order its own TAI production of a certain amount of F-16, only through a contract with the manufacturer and coordination with the United States. Therefore, for example, the Japanese created their own version of the F-16, in this case, there remains a dependence on the supply units if their production is not localized, for example engines.
    The Turks, in a similar scenario, are building an attack helicopter ATAK. They can build as much as they want, BUT they are dependent on the supply of engines (MotrSich is now working on completely domestic ones to help them) and cannot export whose engines are on a helicopter without the consent of the States.

    The Kemalists and the army played a big role in modernizing Turkey, moderate Islamists are in power now, the Kemalists are in opposition, the army has been removed. Where Erdogan will lead Turkey in terms of modernization is still a big question, how the mayor of Istanbul showed himself well, how the prime minister and pres are not so very, but much more lies ahead.

    According to the article, he smiled about the "obsolete F-16s ..." We all have Su-27 and MiG-29, we assigned new digital indices, following the same path as the others, F-16 did not change the index, but went through the same stages of modernization, it was about Block such and such, fighters from the Turks are quite modern. And I remind you that F-16 is now the most massive fighter in the world, the number of F-22 and F-35 is scanty against its background.