8 million tons of bombs: The historian revealed the details of the US bombing of Vietnam

The American military operation in Vietnam was carried out in the 60s of the last century. It received the name "Thunderclap".

The details of its holding told RIA News former director of the Central Archive of the Ministry of Defense and head of the Federal State Archive of the latest stories Igor Permyakov.

The meaning of the operation was the intensive bombing of the country and was aimed at its complete destruction. Although the operation was originally designed for a maximum of two months, it lasted almost four years and became the longest bombing operation for the entire period after the end of World War II.

American raids aviation began on March 2, 1965 and ended on October 31, 1968. During all this time, US pilots made 304 sorties, dropping about eight million tons of bombs to Vietnam. This is a war crime of incredible proportions, for which virtually none of the perpetrators has been punished to this day.

According to the historian, Vietnam managed to withstand American aggression only thanks to military supplies from the USSR. The Vietnamese use of Soviet radars and the latest anti-aircraft missile systems caused significant losses in US aviation and led the Americans to massive anti-war protests, forcing the White House to withdraw troops from Vietnam.

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[vvvjak]

The figure is 167 kg. Americans themselves have long voiced bombs on every Vietnamese.

[bessmertniy]

Too many past bombs went. Today in Vietnam there are about 100 million people. It was absolutely senseless war for America, if there was a count on the total destruction of the population.

[astepanov]

But then add to the bombs also a monstrous-scale chemical war, for which no one answered either. The US Army sprayed 72 million liters of defoliants on the territory of South Vietnam to destroy forests, including 44 million liters containing dioxin. Dioxin, getting into the human body with water and food, causes liver and blood diseases, massive congenital malformations of newborns and violations of the normal course of pregnancy. After the use of the US military defoliants, after the war, several tens of thousands of people died. Altogether, there are about 4,8 million victims of defoliant spraying in Vietnam, including three million directly affected. Forests, mangroves and farmland after chemical attacks have not fully recovered.
And these cannibals teach us to live and accuse us of cruelty ...

[knn54]

After the "Maidan" young (!) Vietnamese were shocked - you believed the Americans.
Another impression, especially when compared with Ukrainian youth at that time.

[Olgovich]

Quote: bessmertniy

Too many past bombs went.

but more bombs were dropped on Vietnam than during the whole WWII by amers on Germany and Japan in WWII.

This is a huge number.-8 million tons bombs: previously there were figures of 1,4 million tons, then 2,4 million, today it is already 8 ...

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

Quote: bessmertniy

It was absolutely senseless war for America, if there was a count on the total destruction of the population.

The goals were different.
1. Offshore oil.
2. Kicking out the spirit of socialism.
And in both the states broke off.

[NordUral]

2. Kicking out the spirit of socialism.

- the main motive.

[DMB 75]

1250!

It is believed that for each of those who defended the bridgehead, there were 1250 kilograms of deadly iron. It killed the first, crippled the second, and tempered the third.
That is how much the monument weighs, which is the welded fragments of aircraft shells and mines collected after the liberation of the city from the Nazis!

[bouncyhunter]

Voiced. But they will not recognize this as a war crime and will not ask forgiveness for it. However, not only Vietnam concerns, and not only mattresses sin like that, in fairness ...

[vvvjak]

Quote: bouncyhunter

Voiced. But they will not recognize this as a war crime and will not ask forgiveness for it. However, not only Vietnam concerns, and not only mattresses sin like that, in fairness ...

“Caesar’s wife should be above suspicion”

[bouncyhunter]

Quite. You can also recall Jupiter, which is allowed a lot (in contrast to the bull).

[vvvjak]

So even closer to the truth. Greetings fellow countryman .

[bouncyhunter]

Mutually and sincerely!

[Same lech]

They did not announce how many defoliants and other chemical poisons were thrown onto the heads of civilians in Vietnam ... the crippled children still giving birth are a direct consequence of the crime of the American military ... the jungle was literally survived by this poison.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: vvvjak

The figure is 167 kg. Americans themselves have long voiced bombs on every Vietnamese.

It's called American Democracy.

[Mavrikiy]

The historian revealed the details of the US bombing of Vietnam

It is difficult to imagine a more idiotic title for the information provided. There is such an opinion:

during which the Americans dropped 14 million tons of bombs and shells on Vietnam, this is equivalent to more than 700 atomic bombs like the one that destroyed Hiroshima.

[gridasov]

When someone wants to surprise others by quantifying the number of bombs, this means that those who are surprised see only a small part of the process. After all, it is obvious that such a number of bombs must be produced, delivered, worked out raw materials and provided with work for thousands of people. The mass of related infrastructure processes. The war is carried out on the basis of economic tasks of various levels of prospects and this must be understood! Otherwise, the state would not exist.

[Den717]

Quote: gridasov

The war is carried out on the basis of economic tasks of various levels of prospects and this must be understood!

What next? Do we need to be horrified? To wonder? Say yes do we have one too? Rather, it was ...

[gridasov]

And then you need to develop science in its real and necessary functionality. Methods of modeling and predicting situations in their great variability of transformations are needed. What is needed is the mathematical methods for analyzing big data based on input processes of also big data. Emotions should be left for housewives, no offense they were told.

[Den717]

Quote: gridasov

Methods of modeling and predicting situations in their great variability of transformations are needed. What is needed is the mathematical methods for analyzing big data based on input processes of also big data.

Do you think that the Main Operations Directorate of the General Staff of the RF Ministry of Defense can still plan only on a "box of sand"? I think that any modern ministry of the Russian Federation today has its own big data cases. Well, it is clear that they realize the importance of these methods and are engaged in their improvement. It seems to me that we have long since changed from bast shoes to decent shoes, although perhaps not yet in BRIONI. By the way, Mishustin, as head of the Ministry of Taxes and Tax Collection, built a system using just such methods.

[gridasov]

You do not take into account that the growth rates or dynamics of processes in international relations and the interests of states are significantly higher than those standard methods that are used not only in the headquarters of Russia. Hence the growing demand for big data analysis methods. All this is due to the fact that the analysis method is confused with a set of stat data from which the brain of separately trained minds can draw conclusions. But I’m talking specifically about machine analysis and advisory functions of the analysis process.

[Den717]

Quote: gridasov

You do not consider

And I do not offer any conclusions. Where do you see my records? I don’t think that you are able to really assess the level of calculation and analysis methods used today at the top management. This is an area sealed with seven seals. It is difficult for me to judge whether they (methods) are higher or lower than the "dynamics of processes", because my skills are in the wrong area.

[gridasov]

Nothing personal! We are just arguing and no one is annoying each other.

[NordUral]

Do you think that the Main Operations Directorate of the General Staff of the RF Ministry of Defense can still plan only on a "box of sand"?

And you look on the network how many super we have and in what positions they are in the ratings. And do not forget about the element base. Do not scream cheers, like a guard, but really appreciate the essence of things. And act, not ring out.

[Lopatov]

Quote: gridasov

After all, it is obvious that such a number of bombs must be produced, delivered, worked out raw materials and provided with work for thousands of people.

Aircraft carrier Forrestal, July 29, 1967, 134 people dead, 161 injured. 21 aircraft. Mostly because of old WWII bombs. With explosives having low resistance to high temperatures.

[gridasov]

One can imagine that the top leadership of the country is sitting and discussing with concern where to put on the arsenal of bombs of the Second World War. And here are the problems with the USSR and internal social and other issues that need to be addressed. And one of the solutions was based on the fact that it is expensive and problematic to utilize. But letting them go to war and at the same time mobilizing the country and taking people away from social issues is more profitable. Therefore, even if this sounds like science fiction, it’s logical in essence of the thinking of those who ruled the country at that time. And I can definitely say that the American rulers were not very interested in how many victims and tragedies there would be among the people of the country that they did not know before.

[Lopatov]

Quote: gridasov

One can imagine that the top leadership of the country is sitting and worriedly discussing where to put the arsenal of bombs of World War II

Not certainly in that way.
Rather
--- Horror, no bombs
--- Let's as an exception ....
--- Oops, a bad idea.

Quote: gridasov

Dispose of expensive and problematic

And the Pogorelets carrier and 21 burning aircraft thrown overboard are even more expensive

[Vasily Ponomarev]

"The American air raids began on March 2, 1965 and ended on October 31, 1968" -aha, but nothing that 9 million tons of bombs were dropped during the entire Vietnam War, a historian such a historian, even if he would read it more carefully, would understand that from 1968 to 1973 they dropped clearly more than 1 million tons

[Lopatov]

Quote: Vasily Ponomarev

historian such a historian, if only I read more carefully, I would understand

Exactly. I read it carefully and realized that it was not about the Vietnam War as a whole. but about Operation "Rolling Thunder"

[Vladimir B.]

Americans in Vietnam actively used banned chemical weapons called Agent Orange. Due to its use, about 400 Vietnamese have died. In Vietnam, there are more than 000 million victims of the use of chemical weapons by the American army.

[gridasov]

I believe that Americans continue to study the regeneration processes and natural resources of forests and population after the use of such and other destruction chemicals. No matter how ominous it looks, but these are all survival lessons

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Vladimir B.

Due to its use, about 400 Vietnamese have died. In Vietnam, there are more than 000 million victims of the use of chemical weapons by the American army.

And so around the world to this day.

[askort154]

During the Vietnam War, the United States lost 30 units. B - 52.

[Shuttle]

In the article, a photo from the movie Apocalypse Now (1979) is authored by the respected Francis Ford Coppola filmed a little less than completely in the Philippines.
Has the author really not found an authentic photograph from Vietnam for an article on VO? They are also full of the network.

[rotmistr60]

8 million tons of bombs

Well, for the Americans to turn a small, poorly armed country into dust is a matter of "honor". But with Vietnam they burned, and burned badly. Bombed, burned with napalm, poisoned with Orange, but in the end they had to get out.

[Mavrikiy]

And also 77 million liters of “Agent Orange”, i.e. 77 tons of chemical.

[Krasnodar]

Everything that the Americans did was half measures. They could only win by attacking North Vietnam, but they were afraid of a repeat of the Korean Scenario - i.e. entry into the war is already nuclear China. As a result, there are more losses than in the 50s, the task of preserving South Vietnam is a failure.

[smart fellow]

26 tons of bombs per flight on average? There, not only the B-52 flew. Either more departures or fewer bombs.

[chenia]

Quote: smart fellow

26 tons of bombs per flight on average?

In my time, they said 5 million tons of bombs and shells (the Yankees had 600 thousand groupings and sometimes they met, more than 50 thousand losses).

[A.TOR]

You were the first to pay attention to a lie - congratulations.
For hitting targets, approx. 78% of sorties. Those. 237 120. The average load taking into account the load of B-52 is 5 tons. If 1,2 million were dropped.
Even this is a lie. In fact, the average load was about 2250-3050 kg.
Incidentally, according to the US Air Force, 64% of the sorties were made on the ground. So that...

[prior]

"Well, son? Did your Poles help you?"

Well, Americans, could you defeat little Vietnam?
And how they tried ...

[gridasov]

Each new generation levels the victories in the wars of their ancestors. So now we need not fanfare and laurel wreaths. It is necessary to control and regulate the sound of individual instruments in the orchestra. But so that everyone will play the given melody of sound

[Karaul73]

Eh, now such support would not hurt Syria!

[Kostadinov]

American air raids began on March 2, 1965 and ended on October 31, 1968. During all this time, US pilots made 304 sorties, dropping about eight million tons of bombs to Vietnam. This is a war crime of incredible proportions, for which virtually none of the perpetrators has been punished to this day.

8 megatons of conventional bombs equivalent to 80 megatons of nuclear bombs of 20 kilotons or 4 thousand bombs in Hiroshima.

According to the historian, Vietnam managed to withstand American aggression only thanks to military supplies from the USSR. The Vietnamese use of Soviet radars and the latest anti-aircraft missile systems caused significant losses in US aviation and led the Americans to massive anti-war protests, forcing the White House to withdraw troops from Vietnam.

1. We won the first place thanks to the fighting spirit of the Vietnamese people and the superior strategy and tactics of the VNA command.
2. US troops wielded as a result of land losses in South Vietnam. Losses of American aviation over North Vietnam were of secondary importance and represented less than half of all losses of American aviation in this war. At that time, half of these losses over the North are non-combat, and more than half of anti-aircraft artillery from combat losses. The role of the air defense system certainly hit, but its decisive role is a fairy tale.

[Vasily Ponomarev]

Quote: Spade

Quote: Vasily Ponomarev

historian such a historian, if only I read more carefully, I would understand

Exactly. I read it carefully and realized that it was not about the Vietnam War as a whole. but about Operation "Rolling Thunder"

By the way, it’s interesting, but you don’t know how much they dropped the number of bombs, I’d also like to ask what tonnage of bombs they dropped since 2001, otherwise you counted the tonnage of bombs, now the number is https://www.statista.com/chart/16079 / weapons-released-by-the-us-coalition-over-afghanistan /