The militants announced the downed Su-24: Damascus closed the sky over Idlib

The Syrian government army has announced the closure of airspace over the entire province of Idlib and other provinces in the north-west of the country. This was announced on Sunday by Sky News Arabia.

According to SANA, all objects in the air will be perceived as hostile and interfere with air defense forces.

The command of the armed forces declares the closure of airspace for aircraft and any unmanned aerial vehicles over northwestern Syria and especially over the province of Idlib. Any aircraft that violate our airspace will be perceived as hostile and shot down in order to prevent them from performing tasks

- said in a statement by the Syrian command.

Meanwhile, militants report a Russian Su-24 bomber allegedly shot down over Idlib by publishing the corresponding video.

There is currently no evidence for this information. Information about the allegedly downed plane in his Telegram was posted by military commander Alexander Kots, who noted that militants were reporting this and there were no data from other sources. At the same time, it is impossible to determine from the personnel that the Russian Su-24 was shot down.

The Russian Ministry of Defense has already issued an official statement calling this information fake.

Information referring to the Internet resources of the militants about the alleged defeat from the MANPADS of the Su-24 aircraft of the Russian aerospace forces in the airspace above the idlib de-escalation zone is fake

- said in a statement.

At the same time, the SANA agency publishes information that the Syrian army shot down a Turkish drone near Serakib.

Syrian army shot down a Turkish drone belonging to terrorist groups near the city of Sarakib in the southeastern part of Idlib province

- writes the agency.

No official statements have yet been received from Turkey.

Comments

[Comrade Michael]

I’m wondering, Russia will be walking with a white flag for a long time, which it took up at the Olympics?

[armenk]

Scribbles a Turkish fake .. Shot a Turkish drone！

[svp67]

Quote: armenk

Scribbles a Turkish fake .. Shot a Turkish drone！

Yes .... There is a video with a clearer view of it
https://rusvesna.su/news/1583055060
If "barmaley" them "drop" from Turkish MANPADS, then why is our and Syrian air defense silent?

[IvanT]

And why .... They will kill themselves))))

[TermNachTer]

Being yourself is certainly good. But to check the combat readiness of the S - 300, and in certain situations and the S - 400, in combat conditions - it would be nice.

[armenk]

Syrians claim that they shot down. But I am quite happy with the version that the Turks were shot down. It is even funnier.

[Alexey G]

I agree! This is cooler!

[Black_Vatnik]

I am not an expert, but in your photo I see a drone, but not a su-24.

[kit88]

Just a moment.
Barmalei type accidentally flunked something Turkish.
My question is:
But how can one accidentally bring down a NATO apparatus from a NATO-based MANPADS?
They have something there, OWN-ALIEN not installed? Or they don’t trust the codes - everything that flies above the minaret flies.

[Voyager]

How do you imagine that the MANPADS and its missile checked whether there is some kind of apparatus in the sky?

[kit88]

Norm No. 2. Transfer MANPADS from traveling to combat

A) The procedure for implementing the standard.
...
- on MANPADS Strela-3 (Strela-2M), the lead angle indicator sets into working position, turning it until it locks;
- installs a scheduled code on NRZ;
- checks the installation of the switch NRZ 1L14 (Igla-1) on the PM housing in the “ON” position;
...
- turns on the direction finder, switches the “ZONE” switch to the “Zone 1” position;
- fixes the antenna direction finding block on the helmet of the anti-aircraft gunner (if there is no bracket on the helmet, it is rotated by the body and antenna in the direction of the intended target) ...

[Grigory_45]

Quote: kit88

But how can one accidentally bring down a NATO apparatus from a NATO-based MANPADS?

Yes Easy. Just as the spirits and Chechens shot down Soviet and Russian planes and helicopters from Strel and Eagle, as the Afghan barmels brought down American turntables by the American Stingers.
The interrogator's friend or foe was either not connected at all, or it was deliberately turned off (the operator of any SAM / MANPADS has the ability to disconnect it)

[kit88]

You did not pay attention to the most important word in my post - accidentally.

[Malyuta]

Quote: svp67

Yes .... There is a video with a clearer view of it

Sergei! Many here have already stated that this is a Turkish fake, but even if it’s a fake, then you don’t want to shout, but such a story could very well happen. After all, if there is a MANPADS system, they will definitely fire. The fact that the muzzle of MANPADS has no doubt and no matter whose production weapon it is, there was an article about the Chinese.

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

Here is a video from RusVesna



In my opinion, it’s clearly not Su-24 that was shot down, but something similar to the Turkish Anka-S UAV

[Chigi]

And the drone was shot down by Turkish ANKA (it seems like the barmalei were shot down)
And the Russian drone was shot down by Orion. There are frames, but there are no special proofs
And the SU-24 was shot down but like Syrian and 1 and not 2. ANNA-News (https://anna-news.info/turtsiya-sbila-sirijskij-samolet-v-idlibe/)

[Simfy]

minus 2 Syrian su-24s and the airfield bombed, already in all the news, except for

[Sky strike fighter]

A Turkish drone was shot down, not a Russian plane. And not under Damascus, but under Idlib. So no one walks with a white flag.

[opuonmed]

where infa?

[Sky strike fighter]

Quote: opuonmed

where infa?

Another machine-gunner Anka was shot down.

Another Anka-S was shot down near Sarakib

But this is already interesting.

Iran warned Turkey that if it repeats strikes against Hezbollah and other pro-Iranian forces, it itself could retaliate against Turkish targets that are within the reach of Iranian long-range missiles and respond with full force.

https://colonelcassad.livejournal.com/5675884.html

[svp67]

Quote: Sky Strike fighter

Iran warned Turkey that if it repeats strikes against Hezbollah and other pro-Iranian forces, it itself could retaliate against Turkish targets that are within the reach of Iranian long-range missiles and respond with full force.

And this is a "mess". Iran will strike with its missiles "where it will reach", and if it reaches targets in Turkey and launches from Syria ... Here's a full reason for "including Article 5 ..."

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: svp67

And this is a "mess". Iran will strike with its missiles "where it will reach", and if it reaches targets in Turkey and launches from Syria ... Here's a full reason for "including Article 5 ..."

So that would be yes, but NATO no longer ambiguously made it clear to Ankara that it would not be deliberately drawn into the conflict because of the participation of the Turks in the Idlib adventure. It would be different, they would already be preparing their expeditionary corps, which would not remain unnoticed. So far, there have been only efforts to prevent a new flow of refugees. I don't think that the Europeans really want to be drawn into an armed conflict in distant Idlib, which absolutely does not meet their interests, and therefore they will find a lot of reasons to "deactivate" the action of Article 5, even though the mattresses are likely to push them to direct participation in the conflict.

[svp67]

Quote: Nyrobsky

It would be so, but NATO no longer ambiguously made it clear to Ankara that it would not be intentionally drawn into the conflict because of the participation of the Turks in the Idlib adventure.

Not certainly in that way. While the hostilities are not taking place in Turkey, the countries of the NATO member, the NATO countries refused to consider these events as applicable under the fifth article. But in the case of the transfer of hostilities to the territory of Turkey, they will immediately return to this issue.

Quote: Nyrobsky

It would be different, then they would have been preparing their expeditionary force, which would not have gone unnoticed.

Any such preparation requires the expenditure of financial resources, without a decision on the application of the fifth article to the conflict, there is no good for their allocation, but there are assurances of readiness to provide assistance, including from the United States. And at the expense of the expeditionary force, NATO has a "rapid reaction force", they are in constant readiness to leave at any point. So, the corps is not a corps, but the "first echelon of forces" is and it is ready.

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: svp67

but there are assurances of willingness to provide assistance, including from the United States.

It seems that they have already helped, since the militants began b / action in southern Syria with the aim of drawing off some of the SAA forces from Idlib.

Quote: svp67

And at the expense of the expeditionary force, NATO has a "rapid reaction force", they are in constant readiness to leave at any point. So that the corps is not a corps, but the "first echelon of forces" is and it is ready.

Let's hope that it doesn’t come to this

[dorz]

Quote: Sky Strike fighter

Quote: opuonmed

where infa?

Another machine-gunner Anka was shot down.

Another Anka-S was shot down near Sarakib

But this is already interesting.

Iran warned Turkey that if it repeats strikes against Hezbollah and other pro-Iranian forces, it itself could retaliate against Turkish targets that are within the reach of Iranian long-range missiles and respond with full force.

https://colonelcassad.livejournal.com/5675884.html

Even more interesting, Iran invited Turkey to meet without Russia to resolve the situation in Idlib.

[vvvjak]

Quote: Sky Strike fighter

A Turkish drone was shot down, not a Russian plane. And not under Damascus, but under Idlib. So no one walks with a white flag.

"Is it true that Abramovich won 1000 rubles in the sports lotto? True, but not in the sports lotto, but in cards, and not Abramovich, but Rabinovich, and not 1000, but 100 rubles, and did not win, but lost."

[Grits]

Quote: Sky Strike fighter

A Turkish drone was shot down, not a Russian plane.

It turns out you can shoot them down? From MANPADS? Urgently supply the CAA with a bunch of Arrows and Eagles. We have enough of them.

[Alexey G]

So they have already sailed ... Unload at the port

[tech3030]

These guys very often throw technique when they run, but if they fall into the wrong hands ?!

[shahor]

The Syrian agency SANA officially announced that 2 Su-24 Syrian air forces were shot down today. The Turks reported that 16 Syrian aircraft shot down their F-2s. They shot from their territory. They did not fly to Syria.

[Grits]

Quote: shahor

They shot from their territory. They did not fly to Syria.

The feats of the Jews are repeated.

[carstorm 11]

Turkey and I should start a war so that your mood would be better?)

[210ox]

War does not have to start. There are other methods to clamp Turkish nuts.

[Pytnik]

In the East, they do not like the "weak", even the President of Iran suggested holding negotiations in the format of Iran, Syria, Turkey, without the participation of Russia ..... TEHERAN, March 1 - RIA Novosti. The Iranian President proposed to hold a trilateral meeting with the participation of Turkey and Syria, but without Russia, on Syrian Idlib, Hassan Rouhani made such a proposal by telephone to Turkish President Tayyip Erdogan on Saturday. “Taking into account our agreement on such principles as maintaining the territorial integrity of Syria, the eradication of terrorism, the protection of the innocent, the rapid settlement of the Idlib issue, contradictions can be eliminated at this meeting, "Rouhani said, proposing a trilateral Iran-Turkey-Syria meeting.

[Sky strike fighter]

Well, of course, the "weak." In two months, the floor of Idlib was won back from the greens. The Turkish army had to save the Greens. It's just that Iran is bypassing the sanctions through Turkey and is not satisfied with the conflict with Turkey over Idlib, Tehran wants to maintain the status quo, and Moscow wants to completely liberate Idlib, and therefore the divergence of interests.

[Pytnik]

And who fought ???? our elite? Heroes of the Russian Federation Roman Filippov, Oleg Peshkov and many others fought, and "this elite" only expresses concern, who bombed the Turks? .... There was an official commentary from the Ministry of Defense, Russian Aerospace Forces planes did not fly in that area, but would say yes we struck, Turkey violated the Sochi agreements, get your signature

[Grits]

Quote: Pytnik

Iranian President proposed to hold a trilateral meeting with the participation of Turkey and Syria, but without Russia,

Even Iran has already realized that the defenders of us are useless.

[Vladimir_6]

Quote: Gritsa

Even Iran has already realized that the defenders of us are useless.

You Alexander probably write from Israel. With your posts, you are trying with all your might to form a negative public opinion about Russia. Someone who is a defender, will understand in Syria without you.

[Grits]

Quote: Vladimir_6

With your posts, you are trying with all your might to form a negative public opinion about Russia.

Well try to refute me
1. When did the Americans massively shell Syrian airfields with their Tomogawks, did our help to the Syrians greatly? Maybe the Tomahawks helped bring down or jammed them with electronic warfare systems?
2. When the Jews flew over Syria with impunity and how much they wanted to bomb their army, maybe ours helped and shot down at least one Israeli plane? Or at least scare off their planes? Or at least frown furiously?
3. now that Turkey has brazenly locked itself on Syrian territory and together with terrorists openly killing the remains of the Syrian army, have we destroyed at least one self-propelled guns? At least once turned on electronic warfare so that drones do not fly? Or at least in the last three days at least one terrorist has been bombed, helping the SAA defend themselves from attacks?
What do you say to that? Or do you think that this is a real ally and protector? This is a conjuncturist who, in case of danger, cowardly pulls his head into his shoulders. Watching your ally ironed This is not a help. This is called - VILLAGE.

[Vladimir_6]

Quote: Gritsa

1. When did the Americans massively shell Syrian airfields with their Tomogawks, did our help to the Syrians greatly? Maybe the Tomahawks helped bring down or jammed them with electronic warfare systems?

Open the archives about this topic and read it yourself.
Point 2 - I'm sorry demagoguery.

3. now that Turkey has brazenly locked itself on Syrian territory and together with terrorists openly killing the remains of the Syrian army, have we destroyed at least one self-propelled guns? At least once turned on electronic warfare so that drones do not fly? Or at least in the last three days at least one terrorist has been bombed, helping the SAA defend themselves from attacks?

Read here, maybe you’ll understand what's what. https://catmotya.blogspot.com/
And these are your thoughts about Russia:

What do you say to that? Or do you think that this is a real ally and protector? This is a conjuncturist who, in case of danger, cowardly pulls his head into his shoulders.

That is - Russia. That’s exactly what cowardly politics leads to.

So our general staff is worthless if it has not provided plans for all possible threats. This is a failure of planning. Gerasimova - to the factory, to the machine.

And only our General Staff covers its inability and cowardice with a fear of starting a third world.

Everything is extremely brief and honest. One can see him tempting to say so - I have not seen such a shame of our army and aviation.

Exactly. These UAVs fly in their apartment. They are there now the kings of the air, and not our vaunted VKS

You are like a "guy guy" trying to "mow" under a patriot of Russia, but in your posts do not even try to disguise hatred of Russia.
But:

We can fully use all this wealth in a frank clash with the Turks. And most likely, we’ll completely roll them up.

It’s not a secret for many who are dreaming of rolling Russia into Turkey with their hands.
Break off with a dream.

[Grits]

Quote: Vladimir_6

You are like a "guy guy" trying to "mow" under a patriot of Russia, but in your posts do not even try to disguise hatred of Russia.

I'm not like a "shirt guy", but a citizen of my country (and by the way, who considers himself a real patriot), who expresses his opinion and his vision of this situation (including the action or inaction of the country's governing bodies), in contrast to the opinion, which SHOULD be expressed in order to be known as a patriot.
And further. As for the hatred of Russia. Have you ever tried to hate the forest, fields, rivers around you? Hate your city, your home, your garden, your family and your children? Hate yourself finally? I have not tried and am not going to. I hope you too, so don't talk nonsense.

[Vladimir_6]

Quote: Gritsa

I'm not like a "shirt guy", but a citizen of my country

You stated everything very movingly.
Everything created by the Creator I love. I hate for scoundrels and scammers.

- our cowardice does not allow scratching the Turkish military - a member of NATO,

-If the Arabs are stupid, then where did our advisers who were vaunted look?
“I'm starting to become more and more disappointed in our advisers, our operatives, and in our general staff.” Their level is to fight with partisans in slippers. As soon as we met with a serious army, they ripened like ripe pears.
-Maybe, to evacuate arrived?
-Our scared to trembling knees,
-And only our General Staff covers its inability and cowardice with a fear of starting a third world.
-We now just look like the last h-oh-o-shniks and balabol.
- We once again smeared ourselves with shit with our inaction.
-Plus is the cowardice of our leadership. The next Russian-Turkish war we unconditionally lost, not even starting.
-It seems that our military is still simply in prostration from the effective strikes of the Turks. And they don’t know what to do. How to neutralize the UAV? How to neutralize Turkish art? What to do with Turkish posts? What to do with Turkish convoys?
As long as they stupid and out of fear cause trouble to the Turks, urinate in panties, from the SAA there will remain horns and legs.
To list all your "patriotic" statements - there is not enough space.

(and by the way, considering himself a real patriot),

Patriot puts a shoulder to the Motherland. In this case, a good word on the Forum.
And you, to the joy of enemies, are pouring dirt on the army and the leadership of the country and the General Staff.

therefore do not talk nonsense.

Clippings from your statements, this is sheer nonsense.
I will be glad if you understand that you should not brand the Motherland as a disgrace.
Moreover, we all do not know what kind of agreements exist between Assad, Putin and Erdogan.

[Nick Russ]

,, Well, try to refute me,

Russia undertook to help Syria gouge terrorists. What to do very well. But there was no agreement to fight with Turkey, the USA and other agreements.

[16329]

Russia defends its interests in Syria related to the consolidation and permanent presence in the Mediterranean on the territory of a friendly regime, this task is progressively carried out with minimal costs.

[Chingachguk]

Along the way and at the next Olympics, she will go with him .... Nobody does anything, does nothing, just get the loot for no reason ..... Be sure to wait until the Turks pack our guys in Syria, and then resent louder than everyone and again do nothing ..... Well, except perhaps to cancel a couple of flights to Turkey and not eat a month of their plastic tomato ..

[sabakina]

Quote: Chingachguk

In the course and at the next Olympics, she will go with him ....

In light of recent events, the Olympics may not take place at all.

[Redline]

Why white? In response, we will hit the enemy tomatoes with a tractor!

[Alexey from Perm]

all the time will be, Turkey is too tough for us, and the military understands this, that's why they sit quietly

[Chingachguk]

Russia simply does not want to touch Turkey. As they say here, don’t touch (analysis), or it will end, the Ottoman hysterical woman runs around as if bitten (in the back), then in NATO, asks to be protected, then to Putin, to ask not to crumble, then refugees to the borders of Europe being driven. And you will argue that Turkey can somehow oppose Russia? Few 33 blind men and 30 disabled people without handles without legs? It’s one thing to squeal, another to fight ......... All NATO is afraid to touch Russia in the forehead, but then some hysterical Ottoman rides and screams .... If so powerful, declare war! And then the Russians will have their straits and their resorts on the shores of the Black, Mediterranean and other seas.

[Grits]

Quote: Comrade Mikhail

I’m wondering, Russia will be walking with a white flag for a long time, which it took up at the Olympics?

Liked. But they warned - do not take kaku in your hands ...

[smile]

Comrade Michael
Everything about your comment is charming. :)))
1. And the fact that we really did not have the opportunity to influence the IOC - you yourself understand - there it is not only about the money or the authority of the state, or its military-economic capabilities, but the fact that the members of the US coalition, their satellites, allies or elementary slaves like the Balts, all sorts of Bulgarians, Poland and Ukraine in the form in which it now exists, elementarily more. "Democratic voting" in this case will lead to a predictable result. That is why our athletes are being tyrannized. what they can. The economy, "torn to shreds", could not be influenced especially seriously, no matter how hard they tried - they could not, although they did some damage.
2. And the fact that you masterfully dodged and did not recognize the fact that so far, against the backdrop of many years of heavy war, the Syrian Armed Forces have suffered, though unpleasant, but not fatal losses. And that Syria lost less territory than it captured in South Idlib only three to four days ago - once every seven to eight.
3. And the fact that all this you, poor, were immediately written down in the great spirit and the gravest defeat of the Russian Federation. Which was the main purpose of your comment ....
Misha. do you really believe that the Russian Federation has already lost all polymers ...?
If you really think so, then I am sorry for you. But if you are a professional Ukrainian (or a professional pan-Russian - which, in principle, is one and the same thing) - then yes today in your comments to this article is the hour of glory. :))) Congratulations. That's just the trouble is that virtual peramokhi will not replace the real ones. No way. My condolences. :)))
Yeah, when you write in your previous comments - "we are phenomenally weak" do not forget that, for example, the phenomenally weak Russian Federation with a "cowardly" president managed to quite successfully resist the militants, or rather their masters, and crushed Georgia. a coalition of 62 states in Syria + Ishil, And did not allow the owners of the Vetsmyrznam to take control of the Crimea. Apparently from weakness and cowardice ..... Tryam, so when we are afraid - from us in general everyone should scatter, according to your logic. our fear is painfully terrible for those who regularly defeat us. In yrnete. Exclusively.
To Syria. so far nothing particularly terrible has happened. And they lost Palmyra. And over the plane, thousands of burned-up timber stands along with Turkish citizens. People like you then also believed that you had a peer march, that Putin leaked Syria. as the Donbass merged ... yeah fifteen times in a row. :))))
Good luck, miserable. Clean medicine and watchful orderly. :))))

[Maz]

Today, Syrian air defense has finally begun to work. Everyone has been waiting for this for a long time. Apparently, all the previous days, the army team was preparing for action. In the morning, the government announced the creation of a no-fly zone. A Turkish drone was immediately shot down (it was immediately recorded on a Syrian plane, but everything quickly fell into place). The Turks could not miss this blow. According to our source, the Turks lifted the F-16 into the air and shot down two Syrian aircraft. After this incident, the sky over Serakib was empty. We noticed two more launches of anti-aircraft missiles. Our source said that another Turkish drone was shot down, but the information needs confirmation. Then there was another launch, we did not observe the consequences. Now, any foreign aircraft other than Russian is a legitimate target. The Syrians are angry and ready to avenge recent losses, especially since they are already trained in constant Israeli attacks and are able to deal with air threats. The only obstacle to the complete closure of the sky is the low number of air defense systems among the Syrians in this area. This night will show if the Syrians can defend their country from the north. If all Turkish drones are removed from the sky, then the Syrians will soon regain all recently lost territories. At least that's what it seems to us.
Alexander Kharchenko, Sergey Shilov. Syria, Idlib.

[Vitaly gusin]

Quote: Maz

Alexander Kharchenko, Sergey Shilov. Syria, Idlib.

In addition to such information, there is also another, judging by how events develop, it is closer to reality.
The Turkish Ministry of Defense reported that two Syrian Air Force Su-24 front-line bombers were shot down over Idlib province. It also reports the destruction of the Syrian air defense system, which had shot down a Turkish unmanned aerial vehicle several hours earlier.
Information on the interception of two Syrian aircraft is confirmed by The Syrian Observatory for Human Rights. According to SOHR, they were shot down by the Turkish Air Force F-16, which were located in the area of ​​the city of Iskenderun, in the airspace of Turkey.
Both aircraft crashed in regime-controlled territory near the city of Maarat al-Numan. The fate of the crews is currently unknown. The Syrian opposition said that at least one of the downed aircraft belongs to the Russian military space forces. According to the report, he was shot down from a portable anti-aircraft missile system.
Since the beginning of the operation, the Turkish army has destroyed one unmanned aerial vehicle, eight helicopters, 103 tanks, 72 artillery pieces, and three anti-aircraft complexes. 2.212 regime soldiers were "neutralized".

Quote: Maz

This night will show if the Syrians can defend their country from the north.

And not only from the north. They already had not weak problems in the south.

[Maz]

The Russian Ministry of Defense said on March 1 that they could not guarantee the safety of Turkish aviation over the northern part of Syria after Damascus decided to close the airspace over the province of Idlib.

[Sky strike fighter]

Video from the link below.

On March 1, a Turkish-made UAV was shot down in the Syrian city of Serakib, which was first mistaken for a military aircraft.

https://www.obozrevatel.com/abroad/nad-siriej-sbili-samolet-armii-putina-smi.htm

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

Thank you, God ... I already thought that our plane ....

[Prahlad]

Turkish drone shot down

[Deck]

Is this a video of a Turkish drone that allowed terrorists or banned? Well, in the sense of rejoicing or resenting?

[sabakina]

Quote: Deck

Is this a video of a Turkish drone that allowed terrorists or banned? Well, in the sense of rejoicing or resenting?

And how long have you stopped distinguishing ours from urban?

[Deck]

Do your and urban have a different beard style? Or is Allah Akbar yelling with an accent?

[sabakina]

Quote: Deck

Do your and urban have a different beard style?

Ours have a straight, urban have a salute, i.e. combed. Any questions?

[Deck]

Got it. Thanks. Now, as soon as I see a man with a full beard, I immediately wilder off the shovel. I will refer you to the police

[Grits]

Quote: Deck

Now, as soon as I see a man with a full beard, I immediately wilder off the shovel.

Excuse me, but you don’t walk along my street? And then I thought something ...

[Grits]

Quote: Deck

Is this a video of a Turkish drone that allowed terrorists or banned? Well, in the sense of rejoicing or resenting?

Well, at least the baboons will do the job of "closing the sky" for us. And then neither the Syrians nor we somehow succeed.

[IvanT]

Here are the stupid monkeys))) rejoice at this))))

[viber]

. Yes. Very similar to Turkish.

[Alexander Galaktionov]

Inga this is UAV Anka C number 021 Autograph of Kemal Ataturk. in them schA farts will tear

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

It is, autograph of Kemal Ataturk -

[Papapg]

Basurman says that this is a MIG-23 aircraft, and then a huge standing ovation. But there is nothing more than words.

[Grits]

Quote: Papapg

Basurman says that this is a MIG-23 aircraft, and then a huge standing ovation.

After class 2, Basurmanin immediately began to study AK. What do you want from such an expert?

[Maz]

Quote: Prahlad

Turkish drone shot down

fake

Quote: Kronos

What are you talking about ? if a military confrontation between Russia and Turkey begins, then the Turks have more forces and equipment that Russia lacks

then, of course, it might seem like pure conspiracy theory, but the Charter’s conflict to watch how black-green barmel men mediocrely lose the armored vehicles transferred to them and flee their positions, the Turkish command decided to raise rates, introducing linear troops into the Syrian province contrary to international law. And from this place began the path that led Erdogan to today's rake.

At first, from the 6th Army Corps, which is responsible for the entire Syrian direction, consisting of one infantry division and twelve brigades, including 2 armored, 2 mechanized and 1 special forces, in order to participate in the operation in practice they managed to get only two suitable battalion tactical groups out of 32 .

But when they rushed to other parts, the picture there was no better. The country with 500 thousand armed forces, of which 390 thousand in the ground forces, was able to collect a total of 12 thousand into combat-ready units in a month of desperate efforts. This, incidentally, is an important touch on the issue of Turkey’s chances in a hypothetical war with Russia.

Secondly, even in the light of the individual successes of individual units, mainly firing from closed positions of artillery, the deployed group showed itself poorly. The combat control cycles were unacceptably long. At a joint command post of the General Staff and the Headquarters of the 2nd Field Army, deployed less than a kilometer from the Syrian border, the lag of information on the current situation exceeded three hours.

Thirdly, with all the belligerence of the numerous statements by Turkish politicians and the stories of the General Staff about the long-running start of preparations for the operation, in reality, everything indicates that Turkey does not have a coherent strategic plan for its implementation.

Over the past month, it has deployed 27 additional strong observation posts with a garrison from an infantry platoon. Thus, immediately eliminating from the routine 2 battalion tactical groups out of 11 available. Moreover, 11 of these points were almost immediately surrounded by the advancing parts of the SAA.

Well fourthlyAttempts to strengthen the barmaley with their own Turkish infantry did not bring any increase in the success of hostilities, but quite predictably resulted in a sharp increase in casualties. While for the entire January of this year, expeditionary forces lost about 18 people, then in just one February day, the losses amounted to almost 40 troops killed and more than 60 wounded.

In addition, at the moment up to 15% of tanks, up to 22% of light armored vehicles, 8 drones, including one heavy reconnaissance and two multi-purpose drums, have been knocked out in the group.

All attempts at hysterical media pressure on Russia are unsuccessful. The Russian Center for Reconciliation shrug:

“Like, as you see, the communication lines with your command are working. We wondered if your parts were here. You stated no. It means that the Syrian army had every right, without embarrassment in means, to destroy the gangs that brazenly violate the ceasefire agreement. You say your soldiers died there? In this case, explain what they did there and why illegally? ”

One of the episodes was heavily commented by the military expert of the RSMD, Viktor Murakhovsky:

“According to the existing agreements, the Turks were supposed to inform the headquarters of our group in Syria about the traffic routes and areas of deployment of Turkish units in the area of ​​conflict prevention. As I understand it, they did not report that a battalion tactical group of the 65th mechanized and 8th infantry brigades was operating in that area.

The 25th division of the Syrian Special Operations Forces operated in this direction, as a result, this region did not fall into the zone not subject to aviation and artillery impact, it was hit because it is occupied by the formations of “Hayat Tahrir al-Sham” (organization, activity which is prohibited in the Russian Federation) with heavy equipment. "

An attempt to urgently pull Turkey to the talks of the Russian president at the beginning of March failed. Dmitry Peskov said that on the chief’s working calendar for March 5 very different, more important things are outlined.

Erdogan managed to get through to Putin. But the conversation turned out to be no one either. Moscow is very sorry for the death of the Turkish military and with both hands for observing the ceasefire, but precisely in the framework of the fulfillment of earlier obligations, according to which Turkey should disarm the bandits and generally restore order in the part of Idlib controlled by it. How did it happen that they did not maintain their combat effectiveness and are trying to advance? And, yes, the question of the integrity of the ATS is not subject to discussion, much less revision.

Under such conditions, can Ankara declare war on Russia, or at least close the Dardanelles for the Syrian express? Well, if she received serious help from the West, Erdogan could theoretically take such a step. But now, when all potential allies refused to help him, definitely not.

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

Oh, that I do not believe these, statements, of the eastern peoples. With all due respect to Assad ...

[Romario_Argo]

it doesn't sound ominous
BUT (!) - now this downed plane is not enough for us like air (!)
to start an operation in Idlib to expel Turks from Syria
therefore, all the media write about the Turkish UAV

[Kronos]

What are you talking about ? if a military confrontation between Russia and Turkey begins, then the Turks have more forces and equipment that Russia lacks

[Romario_Argo]

no confrontation will begin
I just need a situation to get air until March 5th.
to squeeze the M4 track and restore movement on the M5. Pick up Sarakib and take Idlib.
And on March 5, you can talk again

[Grits]

Quote: Romario_Argo

I just need a situation to get air until March 5th.
to squeeze the M4 track and restore movement on the M5. Pick up Sarakib and take Idlib.
And on March 5, you can talk again

Totally agree with you. Maybe it's cynical ...
But I’m sure that men with Khmeimim are already boiling from the desire to embed.

[Romario_Argo]

Maybe it's cynical ...

but in a war, otherwise?
for some, these victims are a tragedy, and for the General Staff - statistics

[PSih2097]

Quote: Kronos

What are you talking about ? if a military confrontation between Russia and Turkey begins, then the Turks have more forces and equipment that Russia lacks

this is true, if you look from the side of the Mediterranean, but if from the side of the Black Sea - then the Turks lose, and multiple ...

[Dog]

Quote: Romario_Argo

we now lack this aircraft as air (!)

Are we few hundreds of soldiers dying under unrequited shelling (even if not ours, but ours with them shoulder to shoulder for several years)?

[Kronos]

Yes, this applies to the Arabs, but the Turks have shown that words do not differ with deeds

[Grits]

Quote: Kronos

Yes, this applies to the Arabs, but the Turks have shown that words do not differ with deeds

Yeah, the Turks turned out to be more serious kids than this Arab shusher

[Oquzyurd]

Turks, like Russians, are children of empires. Of course, serious guys, but how else? The Arabs have a map of their countries drawn with the pen of the British and French, which means a lot.

[16329]

Whether it’s a matter of “honest” Western peoples, for example, Germans or British,
Their statements must be trusted.

[carstorm 11]

what do they have to do with it?

[Romario_Argo]

what do they have to do with it?

The Turks are afraid that if they shot down our board, then our VKS and MTR will take out all the militants to HELL
Yesterday, reinforcements already arrived, I laid out the pictures (see comments)

[KVK1]

as one famous person said, "please treat with understanding"

[knn54]

About 30 years ago (already under Gorbachev) in a Ukrainian (no need for details) technical university they tested the installation. I "burned" the electronics (integral-semiconductor) ALMOST at the distance indicated by Julia. This is for reference. True, the installation itself was on lamps.

[NordUral]

And who will firmly convince that the lamps will not return? For land or sea, excess weight is not so fundamentally important. But the efficiency and reliability will impress the "partners".

[Alexander Galaktionov]

And where is the vaunted Russian electronic warfare? not a single Turkish thing flies. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qsi6O1NvEBs&feature=emb_logo

[Alexander Galaktionov]

We continue to publish informative posts in which information for a certain circle of subscribers will be interesting. We again drew a little, do not judge strictly;

To broaden your horizons ...

A small technical review of the Turkish Bayraktar TB2 UAV, which is currently flying in Idlib, based on the video https://youtu.be/6bu--OE5MnI.

In the video we can observe the operation of the Turkish UAV. They work well, but first things first. So, what was possible to get from the video:

1. UAV sighting grid (Fig. 1) Many thanks to the Turkish military for the fact that we finally saw what it looks like (usually the grid is covered up, but in this video we were given a surprise Easter egg).

It is worth noting a couple of details:
- On some frames you can see how the UAV indicates the absence of GPS (most likely they used electronic warfare, but why didn’t they land, about this below)
- An interesting coordinate grid where the square (37S) is indicated and then only the numbers most likely indicating the position in this square. If you specify the location of the attack with coordinates, you can understand what calculus is (until the place of attack is established).

2. Semi-active laser target designation system. On the right side of the aiming marker (a small square in the center of the image, see Fig. 2) - you can see how the light spot plays, this is the point of the laser target indicator, which the GOS missile is guided by. You can watch this rare occurrence on time codes 1:10, 1:23, etc. This phenomenon is observed when the UAV is close to the target (see on the scale of the rangefinder, the estimated distance report is the number on the rangefinder times 100 in meters).

The semi-active laser guidance system is one of the simplest and most accurate systems.

3. Now about how the UAV is controlled, and more precisely about the control channels:
- C-Band, range (from 3 to 8 GHz) - the main control channel. On it, in a digital video, a video image and telemetry are transmitted from the UAV (from UAV flight parameters to rangefinders and target indicators). All information received is collected at the control point and only then (based on the received data) several grids are superimposed on the images (pilot grid, weapon operator grid, etc.). Each monitor has its own grid. Also in this range there is an uplink, i.e. UAV control, communication line PU-UAV.
- UHF range (2 independent channels), to ensure precise determination of UAV coordinates with an accuracy of a centimeter. The principle of Real Time Kinematic (RTK), Differential GPS system.
If in a nutshell, in addition to the received data from GPS, data are being adjusted from the control point via UHF channels (400-470 MHz), at a speed of 2400-4800 baud.
- GPS- everything is clear here, no explanation is required, reception of navigation signals.
Total: we have 3 channels of communication "with the outside world".

Why did the UAV not see GPS in the video, but at the same time continue to work efficiently? Because in this case GPS was not used, there was manual control (GPS works on automatic routes). All control was carried out in the C-band (range), which could not identify and suppress electronic warfare, + duplication of coordinates on the UHF channel (correction).
Therefore, like electronic warfare was used, but it did not give any sense. For an UAV of this class, a slightly different approach is needed in addition to suppressing GPS signals.

Where does the information from the communication channels come from, you ask. Information based on the one displayed on the screens in the control panel. fig. 3. Where in general terms can you determine the internal structure of the UAV complex.

Materials:
Figure 1 - reticle of the weapons operator.
Figure 2 - goal marker (what to look for when watching a video)
Fig 3- inside the control room, UAV status monitor, "pilot" grid, indication of communication channels, position of the antenna system (directional antenna) and a bit of telemetry from the board, with navigation parameters.
Figure 4 - reticle without corrections (in case of discussion in the comments).
Figure 5 - UAV Bayraktar TB2
Video 1 is the basis of this post.

The UAV Bayraktar TB2 has a maximum take-off weight of 650 kg, a length of 6,5 m and a wingspan of 12 m. The Rotax 912 piston engine with 100 hp. UAV cruising speed of about 130 km / h, ceiling up to 8100 m.

The combat load weight is up to 75 kg, and includes the Roketsan L-UMTAS ATGM (weight 37,5 kg, or lightweight munitions MAM-L (SMM, weighing 22 kg) created with them with a laser semi-active guidance system, the load can be placed on four pylons Also, for use with the Roketsan UAV, a new lightweight MAM-C ammunition weighing only 8,5 kg was developed, which is actually a 70 mm Cirit missile with a laser semi-active guidance system, but without an engine.

We will also be glad to see in the comments people who know the Turkish language, with a view to further analyzing Figure 2. There are many more questions, and not translated terms, the translation of which would open the veil of secrecy on this UAV even more

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[alexmach]

Beauty! In one video, merge so much information about their UAVs. Although .. maybe this is not a secret, have they been exported somewhere?

[Oquzyurd]

"Have they been exported somewhere?" Yes, Qatar and Ukraine.

[Grits]

Quote: Olya Tsako

And where are the praised Russian electronic warfare?

At the Parade you will see - they will take us, they will show

[Mestny]

What will do? Pick up kookan trolls on the Internet. And then I look, they’re just hysterical.

[Andobor]

Quote: Mestny

Pick up kookan trolls on the Internet.

The trolls will get out anyway, they have such a job.

[Paranoid50]

Quote: Mestny

I look, they’re just hysterical.

Oh, the third day is a squeal. Up to a heap of close local organisms smear snot, for the hundredth time making old records - with such "compatriots" and enemies are not needed.

[slipped]

Militants shot down Turkish drone by Turkish MANPADS

[Boris Ivanov]

I don’t think the second Su-24 shot down, we can swallow. let's wait on March 5-6. when Erdogan arrives at Sochi’s GDP. and there you will see how everything goes in Idlib.

[megadeth]

As if before March 5, Moscow would not have reached ..

[Kronos]

The Nafik Turks do not need a war with Russia, but to achieve their goals Idlib smashing the Syrians easily

[sabakina]

Quote: megadeth

As if before March 5, Moscow would not have reached ..

They can easily. If they overcome the distance to the Moscow Ring Road. Hitler did not succeed ... Rather, he succeeded, but only until Khimki ...

[Grits]

Quote: megadeth

As if before March 5, Moscow would not have reached ..

Although to Hama - quite.

[KVK1]

and what happened to the first?
avenged him?

[sabakina]

Quote: KVK1

and what happened to the first?
avenged him?

Are you talking about Yeshua, who is from Nazareth?

[KVK1]

yes I'm talking about

I don’t think the second Su-24 shot down, we can swallow

[Zeev Zeev]

Well, something was shot down there. Most likely the Su-24. But rather, the Syrian Air Force.

[Sky strike fighter]

Downed Anka-S. Turkish drone, which someone took for the Su-24.

[Zeev Zeev]

HAMA, MAR 1 - RIA Novosti. In Idlib, the Turkish military shot down two Syrian Air Force planes, the Syrian command said.
"At 13.25 today, during a combat mission against terrorist groups, two planes were shot down in the Idlib region by Turkish fighters in Syrian airspace," the statement said.

[Arg107]

“On March 1, a Turkish-made drone was shot down in the Syrian city of Seraqib, which was initially mistaken for a combat aircraft.
It is noted that he was shot down from MANPADS, from a Turkish observation post near Serakib. "
The Turks shot down their drone. The drone was ejected from the drone.
In social networks: Thousands of SU 24, hundreds of SU 34 were shot down, Assad is leaving, Putin leaked

[serzh.kost]

Quote: Arg107

“On March 1, a Turkish-made drone was shot down in the Syrian city of Seraqib, which was initially mistaken for a combat aircraft.

the permalos turned into a hail, and the pro-Turkish bots were euphoric that it was a Su-24. mriyal how!

[Zeev Zeev]

HAMA, MAR 1 - RIA Novosti. In Idlib, the Turkish military shot down two Syrian Air Force planes, the Syrian command said.
"At 13.25 today, during a combat mission against terrorist groups, two planes were shot down in the Idlib region by Turkish fighters in Syrian airspace," the statement said.

[shoroh]

They shot down the Turkish UAV Anka. VO, as always, slows down or repeats bearded fakes. There is a video where bearded men shot down their own UAV worth $ 30 million. Good luck to them in this matter.

[Sky strike fighter]

Not every gunman distinguishes Anku-S from Su-24. Or did you decide to fight for Assad part-time? Well, at least something from MANPADS shot down.

[Grits]

Quote: Sky Strike fighter

Well, at least something from MANPADS shot down.

Yes, so famously. The UAV did not even have time to shoot the traps and eject the pilot.

[Andobor]

Quote: shoroh

VO, as always, slows down or repeats bearded fakes.

The information war, for our part, there is no organized work at these levels, and with that comes powerful funding.

[megadeth]

They’re rolling out a Russian ally live ... no words, or 5 banns ..

[raki-uzo]

The operation is called "Shield of Spring". Prepare for the warmth.

[raki-uzo]

https://www.haberturk.com/video/haber/izle/suriyede-bahar-kalkani-harekatinda-hedefler-boyle-imha-edildi/676687

[snifer]

Now, because of one bald headstock, shame falls on the whole country, army and people.

[Paranoid50]

Quote: snifer

because of one bald headstock, shame falls on the whole country, army and people.

What is so worried about the Bundes? And all because nefig was to put Ursulu as Minister of Defense - that’s the Bundeswehr. And the shame of seventy-five years ago cannot be washed away for a long time ... Yes, perhaps, never. However, all this is best addressed for its intended purpose - in Berlin.

[Stalllker]

The heat started !!!!

[ivanec]

⚡⚡⚡⚡⚡⚡

[Vasyan1971]

On the video "Alla, I'm going to the bar" it sounded somehow uncertain ...

[Grits]

Quote: Vasyan1971

On the video "Alla, I'm going to the bar" it sounded somehow uncertain ...

Apparently, the barmalei began to suspect something and a vague doubt crept in that Alla would not give money for the bar ... Or maybe it’s better not to go for the salary ...

[Sarcasm]

Quote: Comrade Michael

I’m wondering, Russia will be walking with a white flag for a long time, which it took up at the Olympics?

Well, after all, she took it ...
Just do not identify Russia with the current gentlemen. The present ones have no understanding of honor - took it, gave it; for them it is simple, there is no adherence to principles, but only a principle, but the logic of the poor "once not Honduras and so many, many times", everything is measured in money, their mother will be sold.

It is much more interesting what the plane was shot down from. Aviation has risen higher, it means that you cannot get it from MANPADS, if the Turks sent the Rapier 2000 air defense system to Idlib, then this is an escalation of the conflict between us, because sooner or later our plane will be shot down.

[Sky strike fighter]

A Turkish drone Anku-S was shot down from MANPADS, militants mistook him for Su-24. But this is not Su-24.

[Alexander Galaktionov]

Сбили свой бпла Анку С https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/3dd148af4ca150dd330551d9154b4745bfcf53cdb05968af186ae444b717fb2c.jpg?w=600&h=291 https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/732ad2234a95f11706c627ea14fb89305130473b3a736bb4ec0946b7a3428948.jpg?w=600&h=194

[senima56]

It's time to show our S-300 in action! This will be a great advertisement for our weapons!

[Stalllker]

Then you need to "land" the F-16, not drones

[Xenofont]

Iran warned Turkey that if it repeats strikes against Hezbollah and other pro-Iranian forces, it itself could retaliate against Turkish targets that are within the reach of Iranian long-range missiles and respond with full force.

[Stalllker]

These can besiege Turkey itself

[Sarcasm]

Quote: svp67

Quote: armenk

Scribbles a Turkish fake .. Shot a Turkish drone！

Yes .... There is a video with a clearer view of it
https://rusvesna.su/news/1583055060
If "barmaley" them "drop" from Turkish MANPADS, then why is our and Syrian air defense silent?

On RusVesna the same fakecomets. Recently, a photo of "dead Turkish soldiers" was literally published, and even with a mark of 18+. Corpses through one with a beard, while in the Turkish Armed Forces they wear neither beards nor mustaches, which may have changed with the arrival of Erdogan with regard to mustaches but there’s definitely no beards. Yes, and their army is from conscripts, but in the photo it’s completely peasant.

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

Recently, a photo of "dead Turkish soldiers" was published, and even with a mark of 18+. Corpses through one with a beard, while in the Turkish Armed Forces they wear neither beards nor mustaches, maybe that has changed with the arrival of Erdogan in relation to mustaches laughing

Well, you're just a master of analytics)))

It is one thing to serve in the garrison and quite another in special forces to fight on the side of the militants in Idlib.

In your opinion, Soviet scouts behind enemy lines should also have walked in a hat with a red star ?! )))

[Piramidon]

Information about an allegedly downed plane in his Telegram posted by the military commissar Alexander Kots, who noticed that militants report this and there are no data from other sources.

I am not an anti-Semite, but my surname gives me some doubts. If this Kots uses information from all Internet garbage dumps, including Barmaleev's, and is in a hurry to reel this information around our ears, then this "military leader" is worth a penny. Purchased, type.

[Sarcasm]

Quote: Deck

Is this a video of a Turkish drone that allowed terrorists or banned? Well, in the sense of rejoicing or resenting?

Well, since the terrorists shot down the Turkish drone, it means they are not terrorists at all, and as little rascals in short pants, we also fled ...

So our allies, CAA, should be happy, they shot down a Turkish drone! " Most likely a fake and either shot down a Syrian hang glider, or he was able to return to base.

[Sarcasm]

Quote: Sky Strike fighter

Downed Anka-S. Turkish drone, which someone took for the Su-24.

Uh-huh, wild people, there is no "friend or foe" system, there is no indicator of the air situation. In short, the Turks looked at the sky with a blind eye, saw the shtotos fluttering, called the bearded man, gave him a Stinger MANPADS, he fired and hit the machine gunner at Anka ... and the Stinger took the Turks back from the bearded man (they don’t pass them to them), but he pulled them away, otherwise the fathers commanders hit him on the head.
Is this the "official version" of the aspects of sofa troops and heroes of the information front RusVesna and VO?

[Sky strike fighter]

MANPADS were distributed to militants, and they are not particularly picky in aviation. The MANPADS do not have a friend-or-foe system.

[Grigory_45]

Quote: Sky Strike fighter

MANPADS do not have a friend or foe system.

you will be very surprised, but there is. For example, MANPADS Stinger is equipped with equipment of a friend or foe AN / PPX-1, the electronic unit of which is attached to the belt arrow.

Similar systems are on all complexes.

[vadimtt]

Interestingly, is the huge IFF antenna integrated into the launcher or is it still removed and comes with a separate kit with a waist unit?
So it’s more noticeable than the box, especially on the video of barmaley

[Papapg]

Quote: Sky Strike fighter

Downed Anka-S. Turkish drone, which someone took for the Su-24.

Basurman says this is a MIG-23.

[voyaka uh]

SANA confirms the loss of its aircraft

[donavi49]

Two Syrian aircraft lost .
SANA reports that the Turks shot down 2 Syrian Air Force aircraft in Idlib. The pilots managed to eject.

[KVK1]

But can they be trusted?
are they "ours" or "not ours"? ....)))

[donavi49]

Sana is Russia1 in fact. There is already a video of a falling airplane (namely, an airplane with beveled wings).

Yusha also confirms:
Yusha yuseef
Breaking: The Turkish terrorist forces target two Syrian jets in the Idlib area, the pilots land and save

[KVK1]

then they (the Syrians) need to send more planes
Yes, not the old, but the newest, 5 generations!
the Turks will not be able to bring them down, because they are invisible ....

[Alexander Galaktionov]

I don’t know about two, but one campaign yes and judging by the video, not from the man-portable air defense system, but by a rocket, air-to-air march F-16

[16329]

It is known about the losses of the L 39 of the Syrian army, was used as a light attack aircraft, the pilot ejected

[Grading]

Turkish UAV Anka-S shot down

[16329]

It is known about 6 downed Turkish drones for March 1, there are most likely shock and reconnaissance

[Adimius38]

fake is not fake, but RIA has just announced two downed Syrian aircraft

[Prahlad]

The Turks slammed another 2 aircraft. They say f-16. As long as Putin reaches Erdogan there, the Syrian army will be gone. We need to put them normal air defense. And let them knock down everything that flies there

[Alexander Galaktionov]

Yes, only air defense Putin delivered to the Turks C 400

[Alexander Galaktionov]

Everything is clear how much Putin is already shooting at civilians in Donbass for about 6 years already

[Alexander Sharapov]

Turkey shot down two Syrian aircraft in Idlib

Turkish fighters shot down two Syrian Su-24 bombers in Idlib. This was reported by our correspondents from the scene.

More details about this in our material: https://anna-news.info/turtsiya-sbila-sirijskij-samol ..

[donavi49]

Turks officially declare yet 3 SAM:

MO site
https://www.msb.gov.tr/SlaytHaber/132020-48754
Bir SİHA'mızı düşüren Hava Savunma Sistemi ile diğer iki Hava Savunma Sistemi imha edilmiş, uçaklarımıza taarruz eden Rejime ait iki adet SU-24 tipi uçak düşürülmüştür.

An Air Defense System that shotdown our UAV and two other Air Defense Systems were destroyed and two Syrian Su-24s aircraft were also shot down

[Alexander Galaktionov]

That's where it was necessary to put C-350 for testing

[Alexander Galaktionov]

Путину привет уже шлют https://sun9-25.userapi.com/c205128/v205128878/89ab1/2w5HZ2PgVdo.jpg

[Alexander Galaktionov]

The pilot seemed to catapult and hit his

[ender]

The Syrian army announced the closure of airspace over the entire northwestern part of the country and the Turks supported .. by fire

[Dikson]

So here you are, a no-fly zone .. according to Russian-Syrian concepts ..

[Alexander Galaktionov]

It will be very interesting to read the answers to all three questions from subscribers))
.
Vasily
Today in 0: 31
Good evening everyone.

I talked with people who are a little "in the subject" and received answers to their questions that worried me about what was happening in the "sandbox" in the province of Idlib. Now I suggest you answer them to yourself.
So the questions themselves:
1. Our Russian air defense group sees all air targets in the Idlib area on its radars, then the question is why the UAVs of the "Perdoganists" destroy our "credit" armored vehicles, our artillery mounts "leasing" and other "gifts" from our Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation with almost impunity ?!
UAVs "Turlandia" are out of reach for which of our Russian air defense systems ?!
2. If recently, from each brainwashed by the TV, joyful speeches flew through gadgets about the "ovish" F-35 and F-22, which supposedly our electronic warfare damaged (no one officially confirmed this, because it is impossible to hit US aircraft even from a slingshot , since this is a legitimate reason to "whip" the United States in response to the Russian troops), then why are our electronic warfare agents, including those "gadgets" that are shown in the video, are not also used against the Turland UAV? Or their UAVs can only be shot down in Libya ?!
3. Well, and a purely rhetorical question, when will the Kremlin openly support the people of Donass with its RF Armed Forces following the example of "Turland" supporting moderate and immoderate "barmaley" ?!

PS Technically, everything that flies now at the "Perdogan" in the sky over Syrian Idlib can be shot down, as they explained to me. But in the event of a retaliatory strike against the Russian grouping of what Perdogan has in this direction, "horns" and "legs" will remain from our air defense and aviation. Since the forces are many times incommensurable.
Yes, and "Perdoganovtsy" use not only air-to-ground missiles of their UAVs against the "Bratsk siriput", but also deliver artillery strikes with their high-precision shells. They are also preparing the ground part of the operation. They have more than enough troops for this.
See you tomorrow ...

PSS The phrase from the video smiled - not a single Turkish thing flies ......
Not in an eyebrow, but in right into the presidential eye, so to speak, p @ zdanul Sergey Kuzhugetovich in a friendly way!)))) And General Gerasimov should stop "driving balls in his pants" under the Supreme Commander, Comrade General has forgotten whether the Military Regulations or just his left hand there you help yourself to keep your tone while reporting to the Supreme?!))) If you cannot restrain yourself and forget, let your orderlies sew your pockets!))))

[Prahlad]

Russia does not directly want to get into this mess. There are no stealth fighters for modern air defense, there is nothing complicated, but Putin is aimed specifically at negotiations. The only way out is to supply Syria equipment.

[Crystal of Truth]

The answer to the first question is probably simple .. The Turks apparently promised to mix Khmeimim with the ground if that

[tomket]

If anyone runs out of tomatoes in the fridge, it's time to hurry, because Erdogan is waiting for Putin’s tough answer!

[Alexander Galaktionov]

Yeah. If anyone runs out of tomatoes in the fridge, it's time to hurry, because Erdogan is waiting for Putin’s tough answer! As here 6 years already looking

[16112014nk]

The Syrian media admitted that the Barmaley shot down 2 Su-24 of the Syrian Air Force. But ours and Khmeimima do not fly, after several explosions in the vicinity of the base.

[Alexander Galaktionov]

Vasily
three hours ago
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News from the "sandbox" ...
In principle, what I warned about, it happened. Today, the Perdogan fighters shot down a SU-24 in the skies over Syrian Idlib. I don’t want to post videos from the scene, because I hope you don’t particularly want to hear the joyful squeals of the "osloyobov" about their "alluibars" either.
In the photo, the plane shot down today and the Perdogan air defense installations, which, unlike the Russian and Syrian air defenses, for some reason work in Syrian Idlib ...

[os-in]

In the photo it is Anka) and then f16 from the territory of Turkey shot down su 24

[slipped]

The second Anka shot down

[keysi]

Barmalei write Orlan-10

[Alexander Galaktionov]

Already dismantled not Orlan -10 and Turkish Anka -C

[Grigory_45]

The Syrian government army announced the closure of airspace over the entire province of Idlib and other provinces in the north-west of the country

Any aircraft that violate our airspace will be perceived as hostile and shot down in order to prevent them from performing tasks

Something changed their minds late. Turkish drones host the sky, strike with impunity, destroy equipment and personnel, and the Syrian air defense is silent.
And well, she would not have seen Turkish UAVs. Sees, and excellent. There is a video on how a UAV destroys the Syrian Shell, which has a radar on. But - there was not even an attempt to fire at the UAV.
What is the reason???

[Alexander Galaktionov]

The video was only there. The shell was in Libya.

[Grigory_45]

Quote: Alexander Galaktionov

The video was only there. The shell was in Libya.

you, apparently, did not watch that video. I’m talking about an event two days ago, when a Turkish UAV destroyed the Syrian Shell-C1. In total, the Turks have already defeated two Shells.
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If you are not up to date, then this does not mean that he was not

[Alexander Galaktionov]

https://sun9-18.userapi.com/c7004/v7004098/872cf/v82Zte4GmqY.jpg https://sun9-19.userapi.com/c7004/v7004098/872e3/HA_KJS3uiSk.jpg все уже давно разобрали то видео На кадрах запечатлен удар по Панцирь-С1 на шасси MAN SX45 сил ПВО Объединенных Арабских Эмиратах, кои принимают участие в ливийском конфликте на стороне армии Хафтара

[Grigory_45]

Quote: Alexander Galaktionov

everyone has long disassembled that video

show this analysis, I want to hear sane arguments.
The photos you submitted do not confirm anything, if only for the reason that the shooting was carried out in the infrared range

[bobwings]

The fact that the Shell is rubbish is a system that is greatly overestimated and ineffective. The Israelis and the Turks destroy it seamlessly, as they say on all fronts. She only radio-controlled models with grenades in Khmeimim are capable of destroying, and even then with varying success.

[Grigory_45]

Quote: bobwings

The fact that the Shell is rubbish is a system that is greatly overestimated and ineffective.

I do not agree

And it's not about the Shells. The episode was given as an example only. Wets all the air defense of Syria - and it includes not only the shell.

[Sibguest]

"Information with reference to the Internet resources of militants about the alleged defeat from a MANPADS of a Su-24 aircraft of the Russian Aerospace Forces in the airspace over the Idlib de-escalation zone is fake."
There are no Russian speakers left in MO RUSSIA? Or is the "fashion" for foreign language gaining momentum?
Why not use the Russian word "lie"? Or "fake" sounds more serious?
Ugh!

[Camille]

The fact is that the Turks reported that the Russian plane was annoying, they did not say that the Russian aerospace forces plane.

[papandopala]

SANA: Turkish forces shot down two Syrian aircraft in the Idlib area. https://tass.ru/mezhdunarodnaya-panorama/7872767

[Xenofont]

So we waited for the fiasco of our policy in the Middle East: the reaction of our neighbors will not take long. The open aggression of the Turks is not a reason for retaliatory action, as it turned out. What a life-giving gas does!

[Qiman Kyrivo]

The Turkish army and militants recaptured part of the Al-Gab Valley. Https: //warsonline.info/somali/novosti/siriia/idlib290220-32.html

[Camille]

When trying to attack Turkish planes, two Su-24 fighters of the Bashar al-Assad army were shot down, Anadolu reports with reference to the Turkish Ministry of National Defense.

The report also says about the destruction of three Assad air defense systems, with the help of one of which the Turkish armed attack drone was shot down.

[KVK1]

I wonder what kind of aircraft were from the Turkish side?

[Kapral Alphych]

2 sou and an eagle exchanged for their Anka! Even some garbage is happening, do not you think? Right click on the nose, and in response to silence!

[Camille]

Destroyed the installation of air defense missile drones Turkish aircraft

[Camille]

And this is what SANA already writes: Turkish forces shot down two Syrian Air Force aircraft in Idlib province today. It is reported by the Syrian state agency SANA.

According to him, "the forces of the Turkish regime shot down two planes of the Syrian government army in Idlib province."

[high]

The statement was not made by the militants, but by the Turkish Ministry of Defense, quoted by Anadolu:
"Two Su-24 aircraft belonging to the Assad regime that attacked our plane were shot down by the Ministry of National Defense" .....
The Turkish Ministry of Defense also reports on the destruction of 3 Assad air defense systems, using one of which a Turkish armed attack drone was shot down.

[Alexander Sharapov]

Meanwhile, it is reported that Turkish units shot down two Syrian aircraft. And another Turkish drone.

One of the Syrians collapsed in the air, the pilot catapulted into the territory of the SAA. The second got damaged and went to the base.
In the video, only one burns and falls and two parachutes in the sky

[Alexander Sharapov]

Pro-Syrian accounts are rather optimistic about the storming of Sarakib and that the CAA has progress in the city. However, even about 3 days ago it was reported that after intensive airstrikes and artillery swotting around the city, the militants crawled to the western outskirts and part of the city was empty.
Our guys, who are now in Khmeimim, write that aviation work is going on (at least at night) every minute. Two planes with concrete blocks leave, as in the good old ones. But they also recognize that in the amount of cast iron dumped, they have a slight lag behind the Turkish side.

[Alexander Sharapov]

https://vk.com/feed?q=%23%D0%98%D0%B4%D0%BB%D0%B8%D0%B1&section=search
Video of a burning airplane

[Qiman Kyrivo]

There they say on the border with Israel, the women began to stir.

[Romka47]

Once there was a joke: half of the country does not like Putin because he attacked Ukraine, the second because he was afraid to send troops and protect, and now, they shout "here we are cowards, sold a hero for tomatoes" right there and then to me the same shout "we do not need this, I have a hut with the edge ... a house in Russia and not in Syria, for which I am a war because of the ambitions of the" king. "
ps I side with Putin.

[Alexander Sharapov]

News from ANNA-NEWS: Briefly on the situation in Idlib from the battlefields. Today, Syrian air defense has finally begun to work. Everyone has been waiting for this for a long time. Apparently, all the previous days, the army team was preparing for action. In the morning, the government announced the creation of a no-fly zone. A Turkish drone was immediately shot down (it was immediately recorded on a Syrian plane, but everything quickly fell into place). The Turks could not miss this blow. According to our source, the Turks lifted the F-16 into the air and shot down two Syrian aircraft. After this incident, the sky over Serakib was empty. We noticed two more launches of anti-aircraft missiles. Our source said that another Turkish drone was shot down, but the information needs confirmation. Then there was another launch, we did not observe the consequences. Now, any foreign aircraft other than Russian is a legitimate target. The Syrians are angry and ready to avenge recent losses, especially since they are already trained in constant Israeli attacks and are able to deal with air threats. The only obstacle to the complete closure of the sky is the low number of air defense systems among the Syrians in this area. This night will show if the Syrians can defend their country from the north. If all Turkish drones are removed from the sky, then the Syrians will soon regain all recently lost territories. At least that's what it seems to us. Alexander Kharchenko, Sergey Shilov. Syria, Idlib.

[Alexander Sharapov]

Oleg Blokhin: There is a little time, let's talk about our affairs. For some reason, I recalled an episode from the movie "The Fall of the Black Hawk." There is an episode where one of the American rangers shouts to the colonel:
- Sir, they shoot at us !!!
And the colonel replies:
- So what? And you shoot back !!!
What am I doing ... One can be indignant at the actions of the Turks, show which monkeys they support, try to explain their wrong, etc. ... But why and for whom?
Turks do as much as they are allowed to, and this is quite normal practice. It would be strange even if the Turks did not use what they have in the war, with them everything is very clear.
There are things that should be understood by us, about them. For us here they are not partners, but the enemy, with whom we must act accordingly, using all possible forces and means.
And then you can talk. There are plenty of examples where we first give out and then talk, with a very positive result.
The first to prove this was General Swan, who first calmed the Unionists by tapping them in the ears, then warned what would happen if they did not understand something, and then put him in a stall. The result for 30 years is quite positive. A later example is 8.08.08/XNUMX/XNUMX. Those who get whining around the ears whine, but they are afraid to bite.
How daring Turks were, we were quite convinced when the Zadeks gave them a return. They immediately stopped climbing forward themselves, putting forward meat from the HTS.
In general, the situation, yes, has become more complicated. But not all the same to play on "clean balls". The time has come to deal with a stronger enemy than spirits, making adjustments in connection with the current situation and slightly change the scheme of actions. For example, to introduce Kurds into the game, who would be happy to help the Sadiks mash the udders of the Turks and greens. With their experience of fighting against the Turks with a minimum resource, they will definitely not be superfluous. The main thing is to want to negotiate with them.
Well, once again, first you need to pacify the violent, and then you can talk.

[Salty]

Quote: Alexandr Sharapov

This night will show if the Syrians can defend their country from the north. If all Turkish drones are removed from the sky, then the Syrians will soon regain all recently lost territories

A remark from the uncomplicated: last night, the Turks worked out on a surprise: no one expected their army to fit in, and even more so no one expected shock drone.

Now everything has fallen into place, the cards are open, the drone is not a wunderwaffe at the present time ... we are watching, watching, waiting for news.

[Shahno]

I understand that two "dryers" were knocked down ... There is infa.

[Alexander Sharapov]

A source reported the destruction of six Turkish drones in Idlib

Syrian air defense systems on Sunday destroyed six attack drone of the Turkish armed forces in Idlib, which launched strikes supporting terrorists, a source in the Syrian Defense Ministry told RIA Novosti.

"On March XNUMX, Syrian air defense systems destroyed six attack unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs) of the Turkish armed forces over the Idlib de-escalation zone. They attacked the positions of government forces, supporting terrorist gangs," the source said.

Source: https://ria.ru/20200301/1566117105.html

[Alexander Sharapov]

Komment from Poddubny: a source in the Syrian Ministry of Defense:
During the day of March 1, 2020, Syrian air defense systems destroyed 6 shock unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs) of the Turkish armed forces over the Idlib de-escalation zone. They attacked the positions of government forces, supporting terrorist gangs.
Turkish F-16 aircraft invaded the airspace of the Syrian Arab Republic twice.
They attacked and shot down 2 aircraft of the Syrian Air Force
over the Idlib de-escalation zone. The pilots managed to successfully eject. They are currently safe.
We remind you that from March 1, 2020, a decision was made to close the airspace over the Idlib de-escalation zone.

[Shahno]

Quote: Alexandr Sharapov

Komment from Poddubny: a source in the Syrian Ministry of Defense:
During the day of March 1, 2020, Syrian air defense systems destroyed 6 shock unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs) of the Turkish armed forces over the Idlib de-escalation zone. They attacked the positions of government forces, supporting terrorist gangs.
Turkish F-16 aircraft invaded the airspace of the Syrian Arab Republic twice.
They attacked and shot down 2 aircraft of the Syrian Air Force
over the Idlib de-escalation zone. The pilots managed to successfully eject. They are currently safe.
We remind you that from March 1, 2020, a decision was made to close the airspace over the Idlib de-escalation zone.

My opinion. Want to fight, fight. And then this, I do not know. ..Bibi is against, trump is for, the EU is divided. Russia, well, like. Just do not touch ours.

[bobwings]

The Turks are grinding the Syrian army in Idlib, showing complete superiority. A few hours ago, in an aerial battle, F-16 fighters shot down 2 Syrian Su-24s, destroyed several air defense systems, according to unconfirmed reports, including the S-300 battery. The Syrians roll back in complete confusion; in Beirut, the funeral of the Hezbollah fighters who died in Idlib in recent days took place.
Russia does not intervene or block airspace.

[16329]

Syrians grind the Turkish army in Idilib .... etc

[KVK1]

what would have happened if they hadn’t closed it?

[Wyoming15]

Don't tell me, they covered it up. You were barely smart enough to sell the S-400 to the enemy, build a nuclear power plant, and a gas pipeline.

Somehow I doubt that the Su-24 is Syrian. And what kind of ..... bomber is flying at such a low altitude that they can be shot down by MANPADS.

[SovAr238A]

The Turks say that they closed the sky over Idlib...
And that they shot down 2 planes with their F-16s

[Wyoming15]

WELL DONE GUYS. KEEP IT UP. YOU WILL ALSO SELL THEM A POPLAR-M AND A DAGGER. YOU THOUGHT THE TURKS WOULD ALWAYS SMILE AT YOU.

[ZVS]

"Military Review" found "a reliable source of information - militants. You can sign up!

[KVK1]

correctly!
You need to rely on trusted sources!

3:2
although, I don’t know, one SU24 = a drone or not?

[Comrade Michael]

https://ria.ru/20200301/1566036142.html?utm_source=yxnews&utm_medium=desktop&utm_referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fyandex.ru%2Fnews ---- Это уже после беспилотника....

[Comrade Michael]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2N55t4ODsPQ ---- 2 сирийских СУ-24 сбили. Наши неуязвимы, сидели на земле и делали вид, что нипричем. Пока слив наблюдаем. "Давайте договариваться..."--- выглядит очень жалко.

[jovanni]

[quote=Comrade Mikhail]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2N55t4ODsPQ ---- 2 Syrian SU-24s were shot down. Ours were invulnerable, they sat on the ground and pretended that they had nothing to do with it. While we are watching the drain. “Let’s come to an agreement...” --- looks very pathetic.

Yes, the Turks are not childishly bully the Syrians. Both equipment and people. So soon there will be no one left to cover our evacuation. And those who remain will not want it after such “guarantees” of ours...

[Alexey from Perm]

The Ministry of Defense is not a reliable source, unfortunately

[alavrin]

I have only one question: when did they start the operation in Idlib, did they predict Turkey’s reaction?

[abrakadabre]

The Syrian army shot down a Turkish drone belonging to terrorist groups

Journalists must learn and learn to publish the correct wording. It should have been written a little differently: the Syrian Army shot down a Turkish drone that was acting in the interests of terrorist groups. And not what is written.
Although this may be more of a question for the news translator.

[Sarcasm]

Quote: Gregory_45

Quote: Sky Strike fighter

MANPADS do not have a friend or foe system.

you will be very surprised, but there is. For example, MANPADS Stinger is equipped with equipment of a friend or foe AN / PPX-1, the electronic unit of which is attached to the belt arrow.

Similar systems are on all complexes.

You can’t do this to them, since the harspekt said no, it means no

And it’s in vain to teach, they’re even too lazy to ask the question “is there life on Mars”, sorry, but do MANPADS have “friend or foe” equipment, STUPIDLY here in the search type MANPADS Igla, - Strela, - Verba and see, and what does the complex actually consist of? And then start being clever with the air of an experienced person, saying, “We know, we swam, we shot down.”

Dumb and lazy rolled into one is not even a diagnosis, it’s a sentence. How many troubles come from such people, okay, they write nonsense, as they say, “paper will endure everything,” and when they actually act, it’s a complete paragraph. And everywhere, both in the army and in civilian life, in all areas. So far, thank God, I still think that there are only a third of the country’s population like these, loudmouths and loudmouths, but if there are more, then we’ve got a scribe, there’s no future with them. Here at work you look, some come, make a good impression, you think they are a confident new generation, but when it turns out that he doesn’t even know the multiplication table, you understand that he is just stupid and arrogant. Woe is it when several of them gather together and mutual responsibility comes into force, then until you figure it out and throw out how many people suffer and have hemorrhoids...

[Sarcasm]

Quote: alavrin

I have only one question: when did they start the operation in Idlib, did they predict Turkey’s reaction?

What for? They thought the Turks were gobbling it up, their memory is short, and they probably believed it themselves while they lied to us, saying that it wasn’t Erdogan, but some “dark forces” who gave the order to shoot down the Su-24 when they overdid it the first time and decided to... and beat up the Turks. Plus they are used to the chaos at home, in Ukraine, etc., so they no longer understand what the STATE is. The USSR thought about it with Finland once or twice and it will end, but how did it end? - when you look at the losses of the Finnish and Soviet Air Forces, your hair will stand on end.
Plus, our people are accustomed to irresponsibility, they don’t need to answer to anyone, no one will ask them, neither the State Duma, nor the Federation Council, nor the population will have a ride in the elections - in the first two “Professor Dowell’s talking heads”, in the third case they will draw any results. Well, some fake liberal will go crazy, will lead the crowd to let off steam, because whoever raises his head will immediately dump the framed liberal leader, showing that he is either a gnome, or gets money from abroad, or even just a well-deserved informer of the Russian Federation, compromising the very idea of ​​demand with slow-witted geniuses.

[Protos]

Quote: Gritsa

Quote: Pytnik

Iranian President proposed to hold a trilateral meeting with the participation of Turkey and Syria, but without Russia,

Even Iran has already realized that the defenders of us are useless.

Of you - yes, but of us they are very good !

[Protos]

Quote: Romka47

Once there was a joke: half of the country does not like Putin because he attacked Ukraine, the second because he was afraid to send troops and protect, and now, they shout "here we are cowards, sold a hero for tomatoes" right there and then to me the same shout "we do not need this, I have a hut with the edge ... a house in Russia and not in Syria, for which I am a war because of the ambitions of the" king. "
ps I side with Putin.

It’s understandable, since a thousand people voted for Zelts

[Sarcasm]

Ours warned the Turks, they say, due to the fact that Syria closed the sky over Idlib, we cannot guarantee the safety of Turkish aviation flights, well, like a subtle hint at serious circumstances, if we bring the Syrians in, they will shoot them down. What did the Turks do? A classic of the genre, they simply and stupidly destroyed in succession two Syrian airfields near Aleppo, several Buk air defense missile launchers, and for dessert they also hit S-300 positions in Hama, having previously destroyed one of the combat vehicles of the complex, and damaged several, which exactly they destroyed There is zero information from the S-300 composition.
So I understand with my meager mind that the Turks have almost finished off all the air defense and aviation in Syria in the near zone and are carrying out attacks inland. That is, if not today or tomorrow, they will put us in a situation where the Syrians, even with a very strong desire, will simply have nothing with which to shoot down Turkish planes and UAVs, and accordingly, it seems like there is no one but us, and this is a direct conflict, as they say, just give a reason. At the same time, the Turks over and over again at the official level and demonstratively emphasize that they do not want war with us and their actions are not directed against us. And so everyone among the Turks openly says that the Syrians, without the go-ahead from our command and leadership up to the GDP, would not have struck the Turkish column, they say that according to the official version, the strikes were carried out by Syrian planes, but in fact, first the Syrians, and Su put the point -34, dropping a 1t or 1,5t aerial bomb on the building where the Turks had taken refuge from the Syrian raid.
So we turned on the fool, the Turks turned on the fool in response, for everyone now the main thing is not to be made a fool.

[Dikson]

.. and the Turks will respond by declaring that “they do not guarantee the safety of Russian aircraft in Khmeimim”... And they could easily stop guaranteeing the safety of our builders and tourists...

[Zabvo]

And what a new “cunning plan”, or maybe we need to start giving stars already. You can endure only as long as you tolerate; opponents consider it weakness (and rightly so). I don’t know who voted for this president, in my opinion the voter completely discredited himself, ours were shot down in 15. “Tomatoes are forbidden,” then they spat in the face and wiped themselves off. This attitude towards your soldiers is infuriating, why to your own because I really don’t know if the Su-24 was an SAR today.

[Sarcasm]

Quote: Dikson

.. and the Turks will respond by declaring that “they do not guarantee the safety of Russian aircraft in Khmeimim”... And they could easily stop guaranteeing the safety of our builders and tourists...

The Turks will not stoop to this, they are now on a white horse and, on the contrary, “they will be emphatically polite and business-like.” They are now solving all their problems, a few more days at this pace and the “Assad army” will only have horns and legs left. The Turks, destroying warehouses and interrupting supplies, simply from this paramilitary irregular formation, will create a crowd with iron crutches wandering between piles of scrap metal. Iranians, Afghans, Iraqis, Palestinians, Hezbollah and others, they are strangers there, if events unfold just as quickly, then a handful of Syrians among them will heroically sleep home, and these will be finished off by local Turkomans, Sunnis who fled from them and Turks , a kind of sanitary shooting to the applause of Israel.