Trump said he was discussing with Erdogan the deployment of Patriot air defense systems in Turkey

The United States and Turkey discussed the issue of temporary deployment of Patriot American anti-aircraft missile systems on the Turkish southern border with Syria. This was stated by US President Donald Trump.

Answering journalists' question whether Trump spoke with Erdogan on the deployment of American anti-aircraft systems on the border with Syria, the American president assured that he discussed many issues with his Turkish counterpart, including the deployment of air defense systems.

We talk a lot with President Erdogan. And we are discussing just what you were talking about

- added Trump, while not explaining what decision he ultimately made.

Earlier it was reported that the US State Department advocated the temporary deployment of two Patriot air defense batteries on the southern border of Turkey in order to create a no-fly zone for the Russian and Syrian aviation over Idlib. The Pentagon opposed this decision. The US military considers this venture "bad," while stating that it does not "want to set a bad precedent," which will still not change anything "in the calculations of the Russians." At the same time, both the State Department and the Pentagon say that there is no talk of selling Turkey Patriot air defense systems, the whole talk is about the temporary deployment of the complexes.

Recall that the Turkish Minister of Defense Hulusi Akar sent a request to Washington to temporarily place the Patriot anti-aircraft systems on the southern border of the country with the Syrian province of Idlib in order to close the airspace over the Idlib province for Russian and Syrian aircraft. The Pentagon said that they received the request and "in the know."

The day before, a representative of the US State Department said that Washington would assist Ankara in Syria, but it would not be associated with participation in hostilities.

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[Alexey Sommer]

Here ...
Logical and expected.
What will our GDP say?

[Mountain shooter]

Quote: Alexey Sommer

Here ...
Logical and expected.
What will our GDP say?

And what, Trump's words can be trusted? Therefore, the GDP does not lead by ear ... The election rhetoric and "real politician" correlate little with each other ...

[Alexey Sommer]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

And what, Trump's words can be trusted?

I don’t know whether to believe or not Trump’s words.
But the Syrians are being smashed, and we stood aside. As Edik requested.
For us, this is a shame, I think.
What are we there for?

[Svarog]

Quote: Alexey Sommer

What are we there for?

This is a really interesting question .. I think for the sake of the pipe .. but with the pipe everything will not just be with such a partner as Erdogan ..

[Alexey Sommer]

Quote: Svarog

but with the pipe everything will not just be with such a partner as Erdogan ..

Absolutely.
The pipe is not ours, but Edika.

[Svarog]

Quote: Alexey Sommer

Quote: Svarog

but with the pipe everything will not just be with such a partner as Erdogan ..

Absolutely.
The pipe is not ours, but Edika.

And what is the bottom line with us?
Our actions are completely incomprehensible .. they invested so much in Turkey, but in the end it smells like shame .. Instead of focusing on Ukraine and Belarus, it brought it to unknown lands somewhere .. We need to build strong relations with the Slav brothers first .. even by force (Ukraine) .. and then focus on the internal problems of Russia and gas is our competitive advantage .. would be industry .. Some kind of policy is strange ... we have everything to do with it ..

[Alexey Sommer]

Quote: Svarog

And what is the bottom line with us?

Looking at how much to dig)
Everything seems very bad ...
There is nothing to console you or yourself ..
I'm afraid ...

[Svarog]

Quote: Alexey Sommer

Quote: Svarog

And what is the bottom line with us?

Looking at how much to dig)
Everything seems very bad ...
There is nothing to console you or yourself ..
I'm afraid ...

Yeah .. on all fronts, everything is very bad .. and I’m going to try on Elbasy’s hat ..

[Alexey Sommer]

Quote: Svarog

and also gathered in Elbasy ..

I don’t know where it is)
I propose to be optimistic.

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: Svarog

Yeah .. on all fronts everything is very bad ..

I am not one of the "all-footers", not at all. Just looking at something - somehow everything is wrong. Everything is perlo, perlo, forward and upward, and then eldyks - and everything became bad at one moment. And in Syria, and the Nord Stream, and the ropes loosened up, the edges have lost ... And here with Erdogan there is another "concern" - you can’t hate, you cannot endure.

And then America is now not washing, so by rolling the Patriots will deliver. I do not know how they will manage with the "no-fly" zone for ours - sooner or later they will overwhelm ours "by mistake". And here the choice is even worse. This is no longer Erdogan, this is obviously America. The choice - either to scatter the Patriots into dust - and this is a pretext for a war with America, and here Trump will scratch his head - to send Axes across Russia or not, or again to the crew of the Heroes of Russia and "express concern" is the very beginning of the end.

World has gone mad.

One hope is that the GDP will again come up with something kind of non-standard, from which anyone should — they shut their mouths so that they don’t stink with their intestines, and open their mouths from surprise and surprise.
Nikita Sergeich, at one time, came up with such a move with Cuba. He went on an aggravation and won. We must now come up with something of the same level. I'm not talking about missiles in Cuba or Venezuela - although this is also a good move by horse. But something of the same level.

I honestly have no recipes in my head, even a sofa does not help. Well, I'm not GDP.

[Svarog]

Quote: Zoldat_A

One hope that the GDP will come up with something again,

So, in fact, he came up with this .. I do not consider myself to be "all-propals" either, but initially, the adventure with Syria seemed to me not timely, at least .. and not entirely clear in terms of benefits for Russia ... in fact, we are serious there and they stuck it in for a long time and, as you described above, this is exactly how things are ... the main reason, as I see it, the troops were sent there was a "pipe", given Erdogan's temper, he will definitely blackmail with this pipe, sold from 400 and this after the death of Peshkov we build in credit NPPs .. and in general we spend a lot of money on all of this .. There is a logical question, but it would not be better to spend them on restoring relations with Ukraine .. even if you throw off the Natsik by force? I think that it’s better to start with this brick by brick, Ukraine, Belarus .. And now, as I see again, money wasted and hero soldiers ... many who won’t return home .. it would be because of what. But because of the pipe .. I believe that we need to heat our own science, industry, our villages and villages .. Instead of laying pipes around the world .. Gas is our competitive advantage, and if industry were developed, it would be competitive in the market, in comparison with those who buy this gas .. In general, I do not understand the actions of our guarantor .. ezhivaetsya only that they are going to sell gas oil only, and the rest of them do not care .. And in the genius of GDP .. I do not believe it does not create a situation in which it falls ..

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: Svarog

And I don’t believe in the genius of GDP .. he does not create a situation, he falls into them ..

I believe in the genius of a filmmaker, composer, artist, singer ...
I don’t believe in the genius of politics, in principle - it does not exist. There is unscrupulousness, the ability to betray an ally and unite with an enemy at the right time - W. Churchill is the best example. But this is not genius, it is something else. And the GDP is not capable of this - education is not that. There would be such a rat as, for example, Chubais - his meanness and the right direction. But ... What has grown has grown - it is not given to him by the nature of good deeds for the country to do.

Hope only, as I said above, on a non-standard and unexpected move.

[ancestors from Don]

In foreign policy, the continuation of which is a military presence, it is necessary to be guided by the interests of Russia, not oil and gas magnates. First, we supply the armaments of Turkey and not weakly raise their economy, and then we destroy everything, putting them on the brink of armed confrontation. It’s not possible to support Assad with bayonets forever, this is obvious, the former allies in the fight against the Ishilovites Turkey, Iran, Iraq (Kurds), Libya (Hezbollah), Afghanistan (Shiites) EVERYONE has their own interest there, nothing is done in the East for free, apparently the time has come for contradictions between the allies in the division of Syria as a prize, and we also need to decide what price Russia is ready to pay in this solitaire.

[Alexey Sommer]

Quote: ancestors from the Don

In foreign policy, the continuation of which is a military presence, one must be guided by the interests of Russia

Countries such as Russia entering in 2015 should think about the consequences for a long time.
And if we don’t know what to do with Turkey, declaring Assad an ally, then you can’t get in.
For example, I am ashamed of Russia .. I do not know about you.

[ancestors from Don]

I am not ashamed of Russia in the person of our servicemen, I am ashamed of parquet generals hung with titles of heroes and orders more than commanders in the Second World War and making such decisions.

[Alexey Sommer]

Quote: ancestors from the Don

I'm ashamed of the generals

I'm not ashamed of the generals. They were given the title by Russia.
I am ashamed of those who rule her.

[ancestors from Don]

Again I do not agree (((Russia gives the title to the defenders of the Fatherland, not friends and acquaintances.

[Alexey Sommer]

Quote: ancestors from the Don

Russia gives

This is the most offensive!

[DMB 75]

I, too, am not ashamed of our soldiers, sailors and pilots, they are fighting worthily.

[knn54]

In the "best" traditions of the Anglo-Saxons, EVERYONE extinguishes the fire with water, they prefer to splash "fuel".
In the situation with Turkey, the Russian Federation does not particularly hold back anything; the oligarchs have no villas and assets there.

[Svarog]

Quote: Alexey Sommer

Here ...
Logical and expected.
What will our GDP say?

Still offer with 400 ..

[Arg107]

VVP, did not sleep all night, waited for Trump to say that: "We talk a lot with President Erdogan. And we are discussing exactly what you said." And when I saw that, "Trump added, without explaining which in the end he made the decision ", immediately rushed to scribble the answer, in all types of social networks

[YOUR]

Will not say anything. If I’ll answer a direct question, I don’t know, I haven’t heard, I was not present or with a joke, but how do you know what the presidents are talking about.

[xambo]

Well, that’s not news .. Erdogan is the same rotortail and will end badly obviously! Gulen is already rubbing his hands in preparation to replace him ..

[Andrey the Magnificent]

He wished the mare regretted, there was a tail, but a mane ... !!!

[rotmistr60]

US State Department favors temporary deployment of two Patrio air defense batteries on the southern border of Turkey

Americans do not have more permanent than the declared temporary. But the military is still smarter and more far-sighted politicians, though not all.

[Chingachguk]

Declaring a useless zone over Idlib by placing patriots is dangerous for Americans. It may turn out that they will not be able to do this, prematurely announcing this. Everyone will try to make sure that all the disadvantages of these systems crawl out into the air ... This will be a huge minus for the US military industry, since around the entire perimeter of the European Union and not only these systems are presented as a guarantee to stop violations of the air borders of these states. And everyone believes in it.

[Comrade Michael]

Quote: Alexey Sommer

Here ...
Logical and expected.
What will our GDP say?

What do you think, based on the previous 20 years?

[Ros 56]

Regardless of what they discussed, it is important how we respond and what happens in the end. But one thing is clear, the stripes want to take advantage of the situation to annoy both us and the Turks.

[Comrade Michael]

Roll back to their previous positions. They will continue to portray friendship with Turkey (we still have no friends and allies), as well as portray friendship and alliance with Syria, Iran and China. We will sit in Syria. The population will be in the brain about how everyone is afraid of us and how we can defeat all, if we want ...

[bessmertniy]

It is hard to imagine that Trump will deploy missile systems for free for Turkey. Another thing is if Erdogan pays.

[Olya Tsako]

As soon as Turkish strike drones appeared in the sky above Idlib, the nature of the fighting changed dramatically. Everything has become much more complicated. Now even single targets, cars for example, are in danger of being struck using drones. Judging by the nature of the use of drones, the Turks do not spare money.
Drones work both day and night - over the last day all the losses of the Syrian aircraft are losses resulting from drone attacks.
Where are our instructors looking? Where is the operational management? Where are "Pantsyri", MANPADS and so on?
We hand over the Syrians in no hurry?

[x.andvlad]

And everything rests on the "friendship" with Edogasha. Found, damn it, with whom to be friends and cooperate.
Even after the downed Su-24, he shouted to the whole world that he didn't care who to turn to about the construction of a nuclear power plant. And after that we also gave him the Turkish Stream.

[Serval]

Quote: Olya Tsako

over the past day, all the losses of the Syrian aircraft - losses due to drone attacks.

This is not true.
The main losses from Turkish artillery, corrected UAVs.

Beat Turkish self-propelled guns 155 mm. Drones only adjust. Therefore, the Turks do not spare shells. They are not expensive, unlike guided missiles.

[sabakina]

SerVal and what? Did it make it easier? And where is our electronic warfare? Why not test it in a war?

[Super]

I look here all the fans in the comments have gathered. It smells of liberality. If Putin is silent, then the rest of the leaders are shaking from formidable silence.

[Olya Tsako]

Even Iran (whose army is nothing close to the RF Armed Forces) Iran demanded that Erdogan get out of Syria by threatening with a massive missile attack.

Against the backdrop of a large-scale military operation of the Turkish army in Syria, official Tehran demanded that Turkey immediately stop striking at the Syrian army, threatening to launch a large-scale missile attack on militants and the Turkish military without warning. Iran’s statement is primarily due to the absence of any reaction to the Turkish attack by Russia.

Iran has officially announced its readiness to take revenge if Turkey does not stop striking Iranian targets in Syria. PS Tehran is not Damascus, it will not tolerate and listen to Moscow.

[KVK1]

maybe I don’t understand something
but in general it sounds a little different
https://news.mail.ru/politics/40773653/
"Iran offered Turkey to discuss the situation in Idlib without Russia"

[knn54]

1.Israel regularly attacks Iranian targets in Syria. And what about Iran?
2. How to understand, the Turks or the barmaley struck a blow at the "Persians". After all, there is a whole "bouquet" in Idlib, including both Al Qaeda and IS. And if the strike takes place on Turkish territory, it will be a war with NATO.
3.Turks are not going to discuss IDlib in a disadvantageous manner with anyone, for they consider northern Syria and Northern Iraq their territory.
Although Rouhani is not Suleimani. Could offer.

[askort154]

The United States and Turkey discussed the issue of temporary deployment of Patriot American anti-aircraft missile systems on the Turkish southern border with Syria.

Yes, Erdogan's Sultan's "show-offs" did not last long. I fell to my knees before the "customer" of the assassination attempt. And according to a long-standing Turkish tradition, he is ready to stab his savior in the back. Nothing personal, just such genetic traditions, stabbing in the back.
And if in essence. Erdogan realized that he had driven himself into a corner. Having decided to show himself that in BV he will be ahead of Russia. Rashlessly went into conflict with Russia.
And when his military prompted him that Turkey is completely vulnerable from the air (the Russian S-400s are still in the "egg", and there is nothing more modern), and that the European NATO members are not inclined to shed blood for the idiot sultan, he fell on his knees in front of Trump - I beg you, send me the "patriots". He "forgot" in Turkish that he was "ordered" in the USA 4 years ago.
Erdogan - with his crazy proud ambitions, stupidly drove himself into a corner. He showed the world that he was not a prominent politician, but an arrogant blackmail adventurer. He has no further prospects. Such villains do not value human life, they will shed their blood without hesitation.

[Nameless]

Quote: Svarog

the adventure with Syria seemed to me not timely, at least .. and not entirely clear in terms of benefits for Russia ...

We stuck in there in order to prevent the formation of a terrorist state in the territory of Arab countries. A kind of lesson from WWII, when Hitler was first allowed to crush the whole of Europe for himself - and then he came to us. So it is here, only this time we are helping Syria so that all this riffraff does not arrange for itself a state (aka pirate Tortuga) and does not reach us.

[Nameless]

Quote: knn54

How to figure it out, the Turks or the barmaley struck a blow at the "Persians". After all, there is a whole "bouquet" in Idlib, including both Al Qaeda and IS.

You just don’t have to figure out who is who - burn, shoot, blow up and destroy everything that sent weapons against you. Allah in heaven himself will understand who is a terrorist and who is a Turk. The rule of life - shoot first, and then ask for documents!

[fif21]

The cowboy needs to be silent. In Syria, men understand.