Turkish drones in Idlib: how they are shot down by Syrian air defense


Turkey is actively using drones in the fighting in Idlib. But the Syrian troops no less successfully bring them down. Experts speculate which weapon Syrians use UAV against Turkish army.


On February 29, two Turkish unmanned aerial vehicles were shot down immediately by Syrian forces in Idlib province. The first drone fell in the area of ​​Kafr Uweid, the second - at the village of Kansafra. The type of downed drones is not specified.

Today, the SAA managed to bring down one of Turkey's drones.

Turkish drones in Idlib: how they are shot down by Syrian air defense


A few days earlier, on February 25, the Syrians managed to knock out one of the newest and most expensive Turkish drones. The TAI Anka-S unmanned aerial vehicle, owned by the Turkish Air Force, was shot down in the sky over Idlib province. With the help of a drone, the Turks planned to strike at the positions of the Syrian Arab army in the area of ​​Maarzaf. But they miscalculated - the Syrians shot down an unmanned aerial vehicle.

Footage from the crash site showed on Syrian television. During the military presence on Syrian territory, a large number of tanks, Armored personnel carriers and infantry fighting vehicles of the Turkish army. So why is the death of the drone so interested in experts?

To begin with, TAI Anka-S unmanned aerial vehicles are among the latest UAVs in the Turkish armed forces. They entered service only in 2018, and Turkish Aerospace Industries (TAI) produces them. A drone is made of composite materials, capable of speeds up to 200 km / h.


In total, Turkey has about 10 such unmanned aerial vehicles that are used for both assault and reconnaissance purposes: the UAV, depending on the circumstances, can be equipped with both surveillance tools and small-sized bombs. In Syria, in addition to Anka-S, Turkey is widely used for conducting air attacks and another unmanned aerial vehicle - Bayraktar TB2.

If you carefully look at the footage distributed by Syrian television, it seems that the Turkish Air Force drones were hit by a missile that hit its tail. On what remains of the plumage, there are traces of soot and small fragments, while the remaining parts of the fallen UAV are damaged only by hitting the ground.


Military expert Yuri Lyamin believes that the Turkish drone could be shot down from the Strela-10 portable complex or self-propelled gun. Perhaps the UAV for some reason decreased, and then ended up in the reach of such weapons.

This point of view looks quite justified, given that the Syrian Arab army is armed with the Strela-10 air defense system, which is actively used by troops loyal to Bashar Assad in military operations. Anti-aircraft missile systems are placed on a tracked platform. SAM has eight missiles that can hit a target at an altitude of 25 meters to 3,5 kilometers.


For Turkey, by the way, a new and rather expensive unmanned aerial vehicle is not a “consumable”: if the Air Force actually had only 10 such devices, now there are already 9 of them, and new deliveries are not yet known when they will begin. By the way, in Libya, Turkish small unmanned aerial vehicles are also easily shot down by the forces of Khalifa Haftar, which indicates a high degree of vulnerability of UAVs to any army that has more or less modern air defense equipment.

Nevertheless, Turkey continues to actively use drones in attacks on the positions of both Bashar al-Assad’s troops in Syria and the army of Khalifa Haftar in Libya. So, on February 29, in the area of ​​the Syrian city of Sarakib, with the help of unmanned aerial vehicles, the Turks attacked the Syrian Arab army.

Turkish analyst Yray Görgyül claims that the Anka-S UAV even managed to neutralize the Russian-made Shell and Buk air defense systems that cover the positions of the Syrian forces. This is written by the Polish author Mateusz Zielonka. True, the network discusses some oddities of the video - in particular, the type of air defense missile system "Shell", not used by the Syrian troops.

The emphasis on drones is because Russia and Syria do not open airspace for the Turkish military aviation, respectively, in Ankara, they are afraid of human casualties and loss of equipment in the event of attacks by Syrian air defense systems against Turkish air forces if they end up in the country's airspace. Today, Damascus completely covered the airspace over Idlib amid statements by militants about the downed Su-24. The Russian Ministry of Defense called these statements of the jihadists fake.
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  1. Aviator_ 1 March 2020 13: 48 New
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    Case in point, landing of Turkish drones. More debris, good and different! For some reason, not taking control, as the Persians did, and ours too. Lack of appropriate funds in this theater?
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    2. tekinoral 1 March 2020 14: 34 New
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      with packs for sure
      1. businessv 1 March 2020 16: 53 New
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        Quote: tekinoral
        with packs for sure

        It is not clear, colleagues, why did they instruct the comrade to sleepers ?! What, do not like our war correspondent in Syria ?! I personally Yevgeny Poddubny is very attractive for objectivity, courage and details of the coverage of events! Eugene, my respect and respect to you, God grant you health!
        1. Nyrobsky 1 March 2020 21: 05 New
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          Quote: businessv
          Quote: tekinoral
          with packs for sure

          It is not clear, colleagues, why did they instruct the comrade to sleepers ?! What, do not like our war correspondent in Syria ?! I personally Yevgeny Poddubny is very attractive for objectivity, courage and details of the coverage of events! Eugene, my respect and respect to you, God grant you health!

          So, they didn’t get him in for what Poddubny was telling, but for the fact that instead of giving the lens, the person had the goal of acting out on the topic “with packs for sure,” in other words, he was trying to emphasize the inferiority of the Syrians and raise Turkish merits. And what is the merit? The fact that Turkey is waging an undeclared war in support of the terrorists! The whole problem is that on this Turkish action, the Syrians have not yet applied resistance, because this was not expected and HERE has happened. Now this topic where it is necessary to procure and in the near future Turkish drones in the Syrian sky will not be very comfortable. And yes, the video of Poddubny confirms that the Turks managed to create a problem.
          1. businessv 1 March 2020 23: 28 New
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            Quote: Nyrobsky
            And what is the merit? The fact that Turkey is waging an undeclared war in support of the terrorists!

            Thank you, colleague, for the clarification about the “packs”, I didn’t even think about this signature because the clippings from Zhenya’s report are clearly intended for the Turkish audience and look like winning broadcasts, but everyone understands (it seemed to me) who and what is being done. good
    3. Sergey39 1 March 2020 15: 25 New
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      Well, ours don’t have EW facilities there? against drones?
    4. Genry 1 March 2020 16: 49 New
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      Quote: Aviator_
      Case in point, landing of Turkish drones.

      Actually, the Turkish UAV was shot down by its pro-Turkish militants, supposedly it's the Syrian Su-24 (the Russian Defense Ministry said that this was nonsense).

      Joy from the deed, and then they will write their own to them:
      1. Nyrobsky 1 March 2020 21: 14 New
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        Quote: Genry
        Joy from the deed, and then they will write their own to them:

        There is such a firm understanding that the militants yelling at the rubble of the debris drummer of their own master simply eat in the head and crap under the olives. They don’t care whom to kill, and therefore there is simply no other, more effective way to achieve peace on Syrian soil.
    5. Rzzz 1 March 2020 17: 36 New
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      Quote: Aviator_
      For some reason, not taking control, as the Persians did, and ours too

      Because "control interception" is a fairy tale for the younger groups of kindergarten. No, you can take control of some homemade Chinese parts. But something serious - nothing at all.
      1. Aviator_ 1 March 2020 17: 58 New
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        The Persians planted an Amer’s “predecessor” a couple of years ago, it seems, which is certainly not a Chinese homemade product.
        1. Rzzz 1 March 2020 19: 23 New
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          I do not believe that this is possible. Is there any confirmation?
          1. Aviator_ 1 March 2020 19: 31 New
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            Well, I won’t pick up the material, because I’m too lazy, but the Amer’s “predecessor” then (a couple of years ago) flew from Afghanistan (or spun at the border and was driven by the Persians from there) and was carefully planted in Iran. There was a big noise, at first the Americans denied everything, then they began to ask for it to be given. A month later they were returned to him.
            1. Saxahorse 1 March 2020 22: 22 New
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              Quote: Aviator_
              and was neatly planted in Iran.

              Not very neat. They corrupted the control signals and replaced the GPS signal; the drone did not notice how it went down and hooked the ground.

              Still, it’s probably not worth calling it a takeover.
              1. Rzzz 2 March 2020 14: 49 New
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                As for the "GPS signal substitution", there are also big doubts. I know how the system works, I wrote a diploma on this topic. In the C / A code, according to which household receivers operate, this is still possible, but in the R code, there is a very long code sequence, it is unrealistic to pick it up.
                In addition, the drone has sensors that cannot be drowned out. Compass, altimeter, airspeed indicator, gyro. This is enough to leave the enemy zone.
          2. Voltsky 2 March 2020 20: 44 New
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            You are obviously a young and naive person :) Firstly, in China, you are not fools either, and secondly there is a bolt with a reverse thread for every sly anus.
            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran%E2%80%93U.S._RQ-170_incident
            I dropped the link from the wiki, there is info on other resources including https://theaviationist.com/ and https://nationalinterest.org/, just too lazy to look for the exact link just to wipe the baby’s nose :)
            1. Rzzz 2 March 2020 22: 53 New
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              Well, that’s what this argument is .. like a sound discussion should be, and you click on age. Young people, by the way, just read Wikipedia more.
              Firstly, unfortunately, not young. Just, the prime of life, when knowledge and experience is already enough, and dementia is still, thank God, far away.
              Secondly, knowledge in the field of navigation electronics is sufficient due to the profession. I even teach little by little, share my experience.
              I mean, I don’t have to read these opuses from the Internet completely, I can build my own vision of the situation. And the openness of the protocol for managing a large reconnaissance drone is extremely unlikely in this vision. But of course, non-zero, won’t happen for all developers. But the situation with some kind of engine failure or something similar is much more likely.
              1. Voltsky 3 March 2020 03: 31 New
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                Well, I’m not a goblin, that would be infantile "call de..my children", therefore you are a child, though the testicles have fledged :)
                And firstly, you do not teach anything, because you have knowledge either at the ant level or you don’t know well what you fall for, therefore you bring up imbeciles and respect for you 0 :)
                And the quote from the wiki, I threw it for the child, for for children - this is the truth in the last resort. But I’m working, and my character is bad, so - the textbook - read - learns.
                Or do you (it’s you) do you think I don’t recognize an electrical engineer by conversation ?!
                1. Rzzz 3 March 2020 23: 58 New
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                  Okay, okay, don't be nervous just.

                  By the way, I did not say that I am an electrical engineer.
              2. Voltsky 3 March 2020 03: 43 New
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                and you’re definitely not him, and these nonsense are not interesting to me .... and then some kind of jerk will tell that someone has alien technologies that are head and shoulders superior to all others :)
                1. Rzzz 7 March 2020 16: 28 New
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                  Well, you have suffered ... Calm down or something, Hare to go over to the personality. I can do it too, but I don’t want to go down.
        2. My doctor 1 March 2020 20: 14 New
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          Quote: Aviator_
          The Persians planted an Amer’s “predecessor” a couple of years ago, it seems, which is certainly not a Chinese homemade product.

          Most likely there was a mistake in the drone software, and the Persians presented it as the work of their electronic warfare.
    6. TermNachTer 1 March 2020 19: 53 New
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      Turks could have problems with drones. After they got stuck with mattresses, they banned the sale of engines to them. The Turks came to Motor Sich - they looked at the plant and engines, now there are two Ukrainian engines on Bayraktar. The question is how long “Motor Sich” will last - the mattresses are ruining it with all their might. In March, the antimonopoly committee is likely to cancel the sale of shares to the Chinese.
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    2. smart ass 1 March 2020 14: 00 New
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      Are you really so happy with 3 m downed drones?
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      1. Asad 1 March 2020 14: 25 New
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        And two US aircraft carriers.
    2. Paranoid50 1 March 2020 15: 48 New
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      Quote: Olya Tsako
      in three days, the SSA suffered terrible damage — more than 100 armored vehicles destroyed, 4 helicopters, SU-24, more than 2000 people. manpower etc.

      Olya-la, as the French say ... laughing Long time not met a woman (?) With a shovel. fellow
    3. Grits 1 March 2020 15: 54 New
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      For three days, the Turks inflicted terrible damage to the SSA — more than 100 armored vehicles destroyed, 4 helicopters, SU-24, more than 2000 people. manpower etc.

      Olya, do not scare us ... wassat
    4. perm23 1 March 2020 19: 04 New
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      for example, for five years now, the Ukrainian media and trolls wrote that in a day, hundreds of them lay down and burned armatures on the Airborne Division. Are you from among them
      1. Rzzz 2 March 2020 22: 57 New
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        In the Luhansk region, brave atoshniks from mortar mortars destroyed some Pskov divisions ... 50 pieces.
    5. vik669 1 March 2020 19: 19 New
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      For three days, the Turks inflicted the worst CCA damage - the Turks personally informed you, or you are a participant in the application of terrible damage, or are these just thoughts of your inflamed gray matter - check with your doctor or urgently!
    6. Tochilka 1 March 2020 23: 06 New
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      immediately remembered "etherelosh" laughing
    7. businessv 1 March 2020 23: 36 New
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      Quote: Olya Tsako
      For three days, the Turks inflicted terrible damage to the SSA — more than 100 armored vehicles destroyed, 4 helicopters, SU-24, more than 2000 people.

      I do not want to comment on your writings, but I definitely want to congratulate you on your anti-rating record! Write more often, we will be united! love
    8. Torak 2 March 2020 12: 32 New
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      God, what nonsense.
  4. Klingon 1 March 2020 13: 57 New
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    CAA does not have electronic warfare systems or something I do not understand? what are they slowing down, they see that they are crumbling with artillery on a tip from an UAV or directly from the Drones themselves, it was long necessary to include them in the combat formations of air defense
  5. svp67 1 March 2020 13: 58 New
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    On what remains of the plumage, there are traces of soot and small fragments,
    At the expense of fragments, I can’t say anything, but soot ... but nothing that he burned when he fell ...
    1. Earnest 1 March 2020 22: 28 New
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      It's about different devices
      1. svp67 1 March 2020 22: 51 New
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        Quote: Earnest
        It's about different devices

        And it’s not a fact that the one and the other didn’t burn either in the fall.
  6. snifer 1 March 2020 14: 02 New
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    Drones certainly show themselves as extremely effective weapons.
  7. Super 1 March 2020 14: 04 New
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    That's the answer. Work brothers. For the boys!
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    1. Okolotochny 1 March 2020 14: 48 New
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      And CAA have Su24 ???
      1. cniza 1 March 2020 15: 25 New
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        It seems not, but our M.O. already expressed on this issue.
      2. sentaniel 1 March 2020 18: 34 New
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        There are, ours gave them SU24m2
  9. Alexfly 1 March 2020 14: 15 New
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    It is necessary to bring down everything that flies and not otherwise ....
  10. Super 1 March 2020 14: 18 New
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    We will shoot down everything that flies. If we retreat to Sirim, we will have to fight for Russia already.
  11. spirit 1 March 2020 14: 29 New
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    Here it must be admitted that the drones are quite solid against the Turks, fly high (8-10 km) for 24 hours and bomb precisely 20 kg with guided bombs! Here you can’t shave off with a shilka, so here we need other means of counteraction, or rather the will to use these means with one comrade hi
    1. Alexander Galaktionov 1 March 2020 15: 10 New
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      Yes, they have drums that have good things to say. It’s interesting when ours will have drums and that little bit about them. We continue to publish informative posts in which information for a certain circle of subscribers will be interesting. We again drew a little, do not judge strictly;

      To broaden your horizons ...

      A small technical review of the Turkish Bayraktar TB2 UAV, which is currently flying in Idlib, based on the video https://youtu.be/6bu--OE5MnI.

      In the video we can observe the operation of the Turkish UAV. They work well, but first things first. So, what was possible to get from the video:

      1. UAV sighting grid (Fig. 1) Many thanks to the Turkish military for the fact that we finally saw what it looks like (usually the grid is covered up, but in this video we were given a surprise Easter egg).

      It is worth noting a couple of details:
      - On some frames you can see how the UAV indicates the absence of GPS (most likely they used electronic warfare, but why didn’t they land, about this below)
      - An interesting coordinate grid where the square (37S) is indicated and then only the numbers most likely indicating the position in this square. If you specify the location of the attack with coordinates, you can understand what calculus is (until the place of attack is established).

      2. Semi-active laser target designation system. On the right side of the aiming marker (a small square in the center of the image, see Fig. 2) - you can see how the light spot plays, this is the point of the laser target indicator, which the GOS missile is guided by. You can watch this rare occurrence on time codes 1:10, 1:23, etc. This phenomenon is observed when the UAV is close to the target (see on the scale of the rangefinder, the estimated distance report is the number on the rangefinder times 100 in meters).

      The semi-active laser guidance system is one of the simplest and most accurate systems.

      3. Now about how the UAV is controlled, and more precisely about the control channels:
      - C-Band, range (from 3 to 8 GHz) - the main control channel. On it, in a digital video, a video image and telemetry are transmitted from the UAV (from UAV flight parameters to rangefinders and target indicators). All information received is collected at the control point and only then (based on the received data) several grids are superimposed on the images (pilot grid, weapon operator grid, etc.). Each monitor has its own grid. Also in this range there is an uplink, i.e. UAV control, communication line PU-UAV.
      - UHF range (2 independent channels), to ensure precise determination of UAV coordinates with an accuracy of a centimeter. The principle of Real Time Kinematic (RTK), Differential GPS system.
      If in a nutshell, in addition to the received data from GPS, data are being adjusted from the control point via UHF channels (400-470 MHz), at a speed of 2400-4800 baud.
      - GPS- everything is clear here, no explanation is required, reception of navigation signals.
      Total: we have 3 channels of communication "with the outside world."

      Why did the UAV not see GPS in the video, but at the same time continue to work efficiently? Because in this case GPS was not used, there was manual control (GPS works on automatic routes). All control was carried out in the C-band (range), which could not identify and suppress electronic warfare, + duplication of coordinates on the UHF channel (correction).
      Therefore, like electronic warfare was used, but it did not give any sense. For an UAV of this class, a slightly different approach is needed in addition to suppressing GPS signals.

      Where does the information from the communication channels come from, you ask. Information based on the one displayed on the screens in the control panel. fig. 3. Where in general terms can you determine the internal structure of the UAV complex.

      Materials:
      Figure 1 - reticle of the weapons operator.
      Figure 2 - goal marker (what to look for when watching a video)
      Figure 3 - inside the control room, UAV status monitor, pilot screen, indication of communication channels, position of the antenna system (directional antenna) and a bit of telemetry from the board, with navigation parameters.
      Figure 4 - reticle without corrections (in case of discussion in the comments).
      Figure 5 - UAV Bayraktar TB2
      Video 1 is the basis of this post.

      The UAV Bayraktar TB2 has a maximum take-off weight of 650 kg, a length of 6,5 m and a wingspan of 12 m. The Rotax 912 piston engine with 100 hp. UAV cruising speed of about 130 km / h, ceiling up to 8100 m.

      The combat load weight is up to 75 kg, and includes the Roketsan L-UMTAS ATGM (weight 37,5 kg, or lightweight munitions MAM-L (SMM, weighing 22 kg) created with them with a laser semi-active guidance system, the load can be placed on four pylons Also, for use with the Roketsan UAV, a new lightweight MAM-C ammunition weighing only 8,5 kg was developed, which is actually a 70 mm Cirit missile with a laser semi-active guidance system, but without an engine.

      We will also be glad to see in the comments people who know the Turkish language, with a view to further analyzing Figure 2. There are many more questions, and not translated terms, the translation of which would open the veil of secrecy on this UAV even more

      © Rustam Bogaudinov "rustam12" / Konstantin Mirza / Military Notifier https://sun1-25.userapi.com/c855132/v855132430/206e09/EDhyKn16PnA.jpg https://sun1-29.userapi.com/c855132/v855132430/206e13 /eTYKXcjI3jo.jpg
      1. Gate1 5 March 2020 18: 22 New
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        Great analysis! Bravo! Minor errors.
        1. What you designated as distance to goal (a piece in the middle of the screen with numbers below it) is actually measuring scale. Numbers, this is the distance that fits into this segment, with the selected zoom mode. That is, in this segment 13 meters. The gunner thus determines the true dimensions of the selected target.
        2. What you designated as UAV coordinates contains essential information. Take a look. There is the height of the UAV. Currently 16610 ft. That is, the strike and guidance is carried out from a height of 6000 meters.
        But where is the distance to the target .... I did not understand.
  12. Whalebone 1 March 2020 14: 34 New
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    The situation shows that not even the most sophisticated BPA replace front-line aviation. There is no war without loss.
    And Polonsky is again in shock - the Turks lost 2 drones (consumables in the war) and that look will surrender.

    Threat. Video with the destruction of the Shell in general from Libya, proofs are in the TG at Rybar.
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      And Polonsky is again in shock - the Turks lost 2 drones (consumables in the war) and that look will surrender
      Yes, in three days two TAI Anka-Ss were lost, by 26 the number of their serviceable ones was 6 (six) pieces .....
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        Still done, their own, not purchased.
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      So far they are engaged in small dirty tricks; you can’t shove anything interesting or decisive into a couple of hundred kilos of load.
  13. Vladimir Mashkov 1 March 2020 14: 35 New
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    Well: they knock down! And someone here hysteria that Turkish drones UNPUNISHED piracy over Idlib! The fact that there is a HEAVY struggle with the "Sadiks" supported by the Turks - yes. Good luck and success OUR! Remained, like, 5-6 days before the truce ...
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      Quote: Vladimir Mashkov
      Well: they knock down! And someone here hysteria that Turkish drones UNPUNISHED piracy over Idlib! The fact that there is a HEAVY struggle with the "Sadiks" supported by the Turks - yes. Good luck and success OUR! Remained, like, 5-6 days before the truce ...

      Only 2 drones were shot down, and they (drones) continue to destroy dozens of military equipment in dozens, and most importantly, they almost completely formed the rear support of the Syrian army.
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      Quote: Vladimir Mashkov
      And someone here hysteria that Turkish drones UNPUNISHED piracy over Idlib!
      Poddubny write, this is his video with the most advanced best-selling
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    Quote: Okolotochny
    And CAA have Su24 ???

    And it doesn’t matter. The main thing is to throw it on the fan.
    "Suede jacket .. two .." (c)
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    1. Stirbjorn 1 March 2020 17: 20 New
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      Quote: Alexander Galaktionov
      But in the event of a retaliatory strike against the Russian group of what Perdogan has in this direction, from our air defense and aviation there will remain “horns” and “legs”. Since the forces are incommensurable at times.
      For this objective thought, the local armored army will certainly throw you a minus - because from one such thought about the Turks retaliating with superior forces, they start to burn fiercely. Even from the most innocent guess soldier
      1. Alexander Galaktionov 1 March 2020 17: 23 New
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        I took from Olkhon who knows, he knows, but on - I don’t care
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      I for a similar voiced thought received 40 minuses in the first topic.
  16. Alexander Galaktionov 1 March 2020 16: 19 New
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    Vasily
    Today in 12: 38
    News from the sandbox ...
    In principle, what I warned about, it happened. Today, the “Perdoganovites” shot down an SU-24 in the sky above the Syrian Idlib. I don’t want to post videos from the scene, because I hope you don’t especially want to hear the joyful squeals of the “osloibs” about their “alluibar” on Sunday.
    In the photo, the plane shot down today and the air defense installations of the “Perdoganovites”, which, unlike the Russian and Syrian air defense, for some reason, work in Syrian Idlib ....
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    the network discusses some oddities of the video - in particular, the type of air defense missile system "Shell", not used by the Syrian troops


    Yes?! And why did Syria then buy these ZRPK Shell from Russia?
    1. Whalebone 1 March 2020 19: 07 New
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      I didn’t buy it, but presented it. Video of the destruction of the Shell - from Libya.
  18. papandopala 1 March 2020 16: 38 New
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    SANA: Turkish forces shot down two Syrian aircraft in the Idlib area. https://tass.ru/mezhdunarodnaya-panorama/7872767
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      And why should a person be minus ... for objective information .... that’s about the downed dryers and RIA NEWS says .... the information should be objective ... and it’s not clear yet who actually covered the sky ...
      but from your minuses ... drying will not arise.
      Popandopala is in your defense. hi
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        There are only those here - to put Kremlin boats)
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          Quote: Alexander Galaktionov
          There are only those here - to put Kremlin boats)

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          answer for yourself. and second, who and why puts the cons you know? I think no. my options: reaction to bad news, provocation, personal hostility, inadequate and other, other
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    the network discusses some oddities of the video - in particular, the type of air defense missile system "Shell", not used by the Syrian troops


    Yes?! And why did Syria then buy these ZRPK Shell from Russia?

    You don’t understand, Syria bought another type of Carapace, like, they didn’t deliver it with this type of chassis, as it was in the video.
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      Yes fake it. Not from Syria this video. By the way, in the video where the destruction of supposedly Syrian technology is presented, that is muddy. Half of the facts do not apply to this time period and is the work of Israel. The acquaintance on the Carapace served, so he generally says that it was not him. That’s why the campaign is so poor quality
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    Well: they knock down! And someone here hysteria that Turkish drones UNPUNISHED piracy over Idlib! The fact that there is a HEAVY struggle with the "Sadiks" supported by the Turks - yes. Good luck and success OUR! Remained, like, 5-6 days before the truce ...

    Only 2 drones were shot down, and they (drones) continue to destroy dozens of military equipment in dozens, and most importantly, they almost completely formed the rear support of the Syrian army.

    The article refers to the downed THREE (out of ten) drones. It is not enough?
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    Turkey shot down two Syrian aircraft in Idlib.
    https://lenta.ru/news/2020/03/01/sbili/
    So far so.
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    Turkish critters shot down two SU-24 !!!
    1. Linxs 1 March 2020 18: 40 New
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      And gentlemen minusers can transform their cons into a word?
      I would like to understand your position and the essence of your thoughts.
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        the messenger who brought the bad news was cut off his head in due time. Do not pay attention and move away from just news to emotional ones - express your attitude to what is happening
  23. Vladimir Mashkov 1 March 2020 17: 25 New
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    And someone here hysteria that Turkish drones UNPUNISHED piracy over Idlib!
    Poddubny write, this is his video with the most advanced best-selling

    In a fever of fights and under bombardment, one cannot see what we quietly see from the sofas: 3 out of 10 drones were shot down. And I do not really condemn him: he is a brave man (proved) and that. that trembled a little - it happens. The brave are always only those who were not in business, in battles. In general, it’s like a flu disease: it seems that everything will die soon! yes
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    It must be assumed that by all-adherents you mean those who over the past 20 years have not left stone unturned from the industry?

    No, by “all-crawler” we mean that five-columned riffraff, who for 30 years has been talking nonsense about corruption, cuts, kickbacks, oligarchs, foreign deputy bank accounts and teaching their children in foreign schools, a poor standard of living, the collapse of all spheres activities of the state and other nonsense, designed to insinuate the state and government in the eyes of the people. That dandruff, which is trying to catch a panic, cause unrest, unrest, and in the long term - a coup.
    The gallows cry for you.
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      That is, Zakharchenka with tons of dough - did she come up with the fifth column?
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      Kremlebot?
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    There are only those here - to put Kremlin boats)

    What a miserable youth has gone now: they follow a new fashion - to hate their country. It's so romantic laughing: overthrow of dictatorial regimes, resistance to the Totalitarian System, insurgency, riots, riots, protests at rallies, revealing cases of corruption among the servants of the people! Well, young people now consider humiliating just to study, work, start a family a humiliating thing - this is the lot of cattle, huh? But is this activity really the matter - you probably feel like an all-out person, an outstanding personality, "not like everyone else"?
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      protests at rallies, revealing cases of corruption among the servants of the people!

      Well of course not !!! Colonel Dmitry Zakharchenko, Deputy Head of the "T" Directorate of the Anti-Corruption Directorate (GUEBiPK) of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Russia Egor Panov, Head of the Personnel Service for Energy of the Russian Federation, Head of the Personnel Service of the Main Directorate of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Russia for Moscow, Head of the Klinsky District of Moscow Region Postrigan, FSB Colonel Kirill Cherkalin. These are all normal phenomena, everything is just fine in the country. This should not interest young people. The destiny of youth Work and give birth. But criticizing the authorities is not fashionable.
      You go awry, nameless bot.
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        Well, how many of them escaped justice? And you just need a reason for a coup.
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    Quote: Nameless
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    There are only those here - to put Kremlin boats)

    What a miserable youth has gone now: they follow a new fashion - to hate their country. It's so romantic laughing: overthrow of dictatorial regimes, resistance to the Totalitarian System, insurgency, riots, riots, protests at rallies, revealing cases of corruption among the servants of the people! Well, young people now consider humiliating just to study, work, start a family a humiliating thing - this is the lot of cattle, huh? But is this activity really the matter - you probably feel like an all-out person, an outstanding personality, "not like everyone else"?

    Kremlebot?
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    Yankees go home!
    Turks go home!
    (Turks go home!)
  28. slafok 1 March 2020 19: 04 New
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    Today the news read: "Turkey has closed the flight zone over Idlib." Hm? On what basis? Sorry, but Idlib is a territory of Syria. Gentlemen, explain to me the lack of discipline how can this be done? And if so, then why can’t we close the flight zone over Turkey? After all, the situation is essentially the same.
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    What will our "pension hydrant" say when the Turks knock down our plane? Put up tomatoes again? Already not funny.
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    That is, Zakharchenka with tons of dough - did she come up with the fifth column?

    AND? Corruption was, is and always will be - regardless of the punishment and social order. In China, people are generally gutted for corruption on bodies - only it has large scale as it is. The prospect of posthumously becoming a donor to any of the government bonzes and oligarchs is not scary. Corruption can only be minimized by operational work and criminal liability, to catch corruption - and plant, to create sufficient conditions for remuneration so that people in positions do not steal. It is possible that it also depends on the upbringing of a person.
    For example, not even corruption - but the most common theft. Humanity has existed for about 6000 years - during all this time, some civilizations have replaced others, one era - another, one social system - another. But even in spite of all this, no one was able, even on a single territory, to make sure that one person did not appropriate the material values ​​of another.
    In contrast to the USSR, crimes in our country are not silent - not only the opposition media, but also the regular ones, inform about this. Therefore, your "authorities hide" does not roll, and leave your speculation grandmother at the entrance.
    The presence of a handful of thieves in government and government does not mean that the rest of the people are also “out of breath”. My advice to you is never judge the majority by minority. Otherwise, in this case, your slogan will be "the best cure for dandruff is the guillotine."
    And what are you five-columnists doing - these are attempts to use every failure of the country, every fact of identifying negligent employees in the echelons of power, every problem that has arisen for political struggle, provocation, incitement, extremism, attempts to destroy statehood, insinuate the current government and country. You are not even the opposition - because you do not offer any constructive alternatives, but only use any problem of the country as incriminating evidence against the current government to overthrow it and take its place. The fifth column - accomplices of foreign intelligence services and oligarchs.
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      And rightly so! Bring Medvedev back forever! Pensions cancel! All officials who have not yet registered in London are forced to do this at our expense. New national project - let's overtake everyone by the number of billionaires! The main thing is to believe that everything is fine and stable with us. If not us, then our children will live in the most powerful and richest country! I thought that d..v seems to be gone, but no .. there is more.
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        Do not foolishly! I, unlike some, are well aware that romantics are plotting revolutions, their fanatics are realizing, and ki are reaping the fruits. You are no smarter than Svidomo when you think that you can change one power to another like old wallpapers and from there, immediately, a rainbow will appear in the sky, spring will come, the birds will sing and the potency will return. The fact that some natural phenomena are not in themselves annihilated does not mean that one does not have to fight them or oppose them. In your opinion, it turned out that since a person dies this way and that, then what for does he wipe his ass after the toilet or wash himself - will he die already ?!
        1. From Siberia we 2 March 2020 10: 17 New
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          You do not distort. Well, my dear, in which country are lawmakers a citizen of a foreign country? And why do all of their relatives have t-talented businessmen? And in which country can you get away with a fine for tax hiding and corruption? And in what country again money from pensioners is stolen? And the politicians of which country said that fires should not be extinguished? And where they said "they didn’t ask you to give birth", "this is state money and not national money" "you need to eat less", "you can starve
          Next to list? Or are these the words "minorities" too?
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            Lord, gathered together a whole icteric crap and leftist slogans. I don’t know who you are talking about - maybe about the whole world?
            Those who create laws were born on the territory of our country and lived on it most of their lives. They are the same people as all other people. They were not taken out of the test tube or did not descend from heaven - they also went to ordinary schools, also graduated from universities or institutes. Obtaining the citizenship of another country by some of the officials does not yet make a person a “foreign spy” and a “traitor to the Homeland," as well as from another person. Do you have anything to confirm the crimes of such people, or you just as unfounded as medieval people decided that since you so want in the mood - that means guilty. Do not worry - after the adoption of constitutional amendments no one will be able to have dual citizenship and foreign accounts.
            What prevents a person, instead of turning nuts at the factory, to take full responsibility for his life on himself and start his own business, gradually making him big and becoming wealthy for this? Is possession of what others do not have from another criminal? You are like a miserable schoolboy, who in himself is very mediocre and has envy and hatred for his excellent students for praising them and putting him in a bad example - and for this he mercilessly mocks them.
            Why don’t you pay taxes yourself? First look at yourself - and then pay attention to others. And they consider themselves saints and immaculate, but the rest - people of low grade.
            For corruption plant. They planted the aforementioned Zakharov, the owner of the Cherkizovsky market, and a number of deputies. Therefore, it is not necessary to pretend that we live in the early 90's. Caught, judged, and if guilt is proven - then planted. And if you do something like that, then they will put you in jail - you can check it on your own experience so to speak
            No one steals money from pensioners. Is this again from your medieval opera? Since the 90s, pensions and salaries have grown.
            Because to extinguish the fire, which covers hundreds of hectares of forest, it is almost impossible. Because to extinguish forest fires where there are no settlements nearby is impractical. It can only be stopped, limited, allowed to burn the forest, already covered by a fire, and not let the fire go on - this is not quite the “quenching” that can be imagined by the work of firefighters in the city.
            Do not give me examples of phrases taken out of context. If you look completely at the dialogues they are of a completely different content. "State money is not popular" - but what, you can run your hands in the state budget and buy yourself a new car on them? They said everything correctly. "They didn’t ask you to give birth"? But nothing that she meant that
            parents are responsible for their children and their upbringing, and not the state - that it only helps, supports, provides the necessary infrastructure, gives benefits and money, that the state cannot replace their parents with their specialists. Well, the one who talked about "eat less" - it seems like they kicked him out.
            Why are you popping phrases taken out of context, huh? Because without the rest of the text themselves, do they look provocative and offensive? The phrases you quoted, as it is not strange, take on a completely different meaning in isolation from the rest of the text. But that was what you needed, right? We found a suitable opportunity once again to mourn at the state. You just need every opportunity to insinuate the government, eliminate it, and either arrange an anarchy period in the country, or plant your oligarch masters in the government.
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              Please, do not be offended, but put ice on your head to attach .. Or join United Russia.
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                A person even has a head, and you, apparently, have a pumpkin instead of a head, and it’s empty. laughing
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                  You would be a BULL, distracted for a short time from your favorite pastime and try to strain, read what this citizen writes in his posts. And perhaps they would have understood that he had complete mess in his head and he was calling for completely opposite things.
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                    I admit that in some cases from the outside I can subjectively be like a mentally abnormal. It's like an office clerk is not able to understand the military - and therefore considers him abnormal. But I also admit such a simple thing that they can do it on purpose in order to spoil the attitude towards me. Therefore, I would be very interested to know what you meant by "completely opposite things."
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              bot, you haven’t answered any of my questions. The demagoguery that you spread here we all heard from the nightingale
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    2. Whalebone 1 March 2020 21: 25 New
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      Why should I judge the "majority by the minority"? Power is a minority. I know a lot of people from there personally or through one handshake. There are no angels at all. A normal person will not even reach the level of vice-mayor - bring it here, bring it there. About the deputies of the State Duma (I have known one for 15 years) - it seemed like nothing, now everything, a biorobot without a conscience, but with a great desire for dolce-vita. He doesn’t give a shit to the district, where 600 thousand people, he has his own bosses, he works for him.
      I am not a liberal in your understanding, do not worry.
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    Dear forum users. We are not playing computer toys. The question is, God forbid, the Turks will bring down our plane. And, if, again, will cost "tomatoes" with "Natasha" ... am
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      Dear minus one. Joystick to you in ...
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    Anna News breaking news: Just returned from under Seraciba. I will tell you honestly that now it resembles Russian roulette. Roads are still shot from the air, but to a much lesser extent. The Syrians perked up significantly. While driving to Serakib near the city of Mardih, Syrian air defense worked out. It was hard to determine what it was. But fiery debris fell from the sky. It may be an anti-aircraft missile, but most likely it was a Turkish drone. In favor of the version of the downed drone, we say that before that we heard in the walkie-talkie about strikes against the Syrians, and after that for half an hour we did not record a single case. We will wait for the statement of the Syrian authorities. Alexander Kharchenko, Sergey Shilov. Syria, Idlib.
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    RIA NEWS: Russia after the SAR authorities closed the skies over Idlib cannot guarantee the safety of Turkish aviation in Syria, the head of the Russian center for reconciliation said.
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    Is it possible to set a helicopter on drones?
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      Of course it is possible. Hellfire (or equivalent) and the turntable will endure, but she will not see it.
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      I, I think, can use the Belarusian experience in using UAVs. Only instead of anti-tank grenade launchers put MANPADS and instead of quadrocopters - use an airplane scheme.
      https://rg.ru/2020/02/21/belorusskie-letaiushchie-granatomety-pokazali-na-video.html
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    Where there, all-wearers? Not ashamed? Alarmists and Russophobes!

    It must be assumed that by all-adherents you mean those who over the past 20 years have not left stone unturned from the industry? Or those who, for the sake of commercial interests and at the same time weakness, cannot defend the integrity of Syria. Although no, probably these are those who, for the sake of world capital, were afraid to reach Kiev? They such defaulters, brought there and crap on ..

    Well, yes, yes, but in the 90s it was raised to unprecedented heights.
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    Kremlebot?

    Quote: Grading
    Kremlebot?

    It may sound a little rude, but nevertheless you can call me even a gray member - just lick me more often laughing laughing laughing !
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    Why should I judge the "majority by the minority"? Power is a minority. I know a lot of people from there personally or through one handshake. There are no angels at all. A normal person will not even reach the level of vice-mayor - bring it here, bring it there. About the deputies of the State Duma (I have known one for 15 years) - it seemed like nothing, now everything, a biorobot without a conscience, but with a great desire for dolce-vita. He doesn’t give a shit to the district, where 600 thousand people, he has his own bosses, he works for him.
    I am not a liberal in your understanding, do not worry.

    In terms of the quantitative ratio with the other population, representatives of the authorities, yes, are in the minority. And I had in mind that according to the stolen people, it is not necessary to draw conclusions that all thieves are without exception. In a bad case, prejudice can also start against you - to which your reaction to the fact that I perceived you as a liberal is an example.
    Regarding the fact that there are no angels: we are all good - but only when we sleep with our teeth against the wall. It’s easier to relate to people, do not expect a miracle from them - in this case, there will be no disappointment. Anyone, when he becomes a boss, is forced to stop being an ordinary person in order to lead people. Here is one of two things: either nobody is listening to you, or you are leading people.
    Want is not harmful. Harmful - do not want to. I wouldn’t refuse another vacation. crying
    Well, what about the fact that your friend doesn’t give a shit about the district - he just might not get his hands up to their immediate responsibilities? Or does he just not cope with them?
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      I’m going to wait for miracles, years are not those. But if my employee is quick, I’ll send him up, or maybe I’ll plant him. Am I libkrast because of this or the fifth column?
      My speech is that I’m watching live that, in principle, I’m not interested in anything other than stuffing pockets. And people go there in order to finally achieve “success” in the form of some kind of sucker to the budget through humiliations, informers, intrigues and frauds. Is that normal? These are not isolated cases, this is the System. Which will gobble up, digest and bail out anyone who will try to change the rules of the game. And it was built like this from above, and not from below. So the fifth column in the area of ​​the White House, Old Square, Okhotny Ryad and the Kremlin inhabits. (Each in his own city has its own geography on the ground) And you are not looking for it there.
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        Here is your Zakharov and planted. These are the contractors who stole salaries from the builders of the Vostochny Komodrom - they threw the same at the bunk, and for a long time. The owner of the Cherkizovsky market was also planted. From justice, regardless of who believes in it or not, no one will leave. And as for Medvedev - where do you have evidence that he is a criminal? Accuse him of corruption because you do not like him? Your cries in this case are no different from the cries of medieval peasants, who demanded that a woman be burned because of suspicions of witchcraft. Bring me as evidence of icteric stories from leftist resources?
        I’ll tell you one little secret - this is adulthood. Life is not like a feature film or a novel. She is cruel and harsh for those who are not able to look at her without pink glasses. The way you reflect on the relationship between people speaks only about your infantilism. Adults behave as they consider NECESSARY, and not as CHILDREN imagine. This is an adult relationship in a place where violence is unacceptable as a tool to find out who is right and who is not. This is life, not a walk through childhood memories.
        What miracles are you waiting for? When will all countries shake hands and begin to live in peace, when all diseases will disappear, when people will grow wiser and stop using money? You are just a small child, not an adult. You are not fit for life.
        But for some reason, I see that our country has acquired new armed forces that will become a little more and more professional, how incomes and pensions have grown compared to the same 90s, the opening of many companies, the return of Crimea - and much more good. I see how the country is slowly but surely rebelling.
        You speak directly as the ever-memorable Nemtsov. He also liked to give good advice to others - well, there, for example, advice to Russian servicemen to surrender to the terrorists. You’re just like he speaks for health - and you drink for peace.
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          Of all that you said here, there is nothing that would not meet the only goal - the survival of the built regime
          The Russian Guard, the army, new laws - none of this is intended for the development of the country. This is only a security mode. Crimea. Ha. The regime needs it only as a military base.
          This is just you infantile hamster, and do not notice anything. I’m sure that you’re perfectly adapted to life. To life on crumbs poured out of your pocket of power. Are you not an hour deputy? Although unlikely. Unarmee, most likely. With a kissed portrait of Putin in the bedroom.
          You have so much garbage in your head, even for this short speech of yours, that it’s just tin
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          Nemtsov, for a moment (with all the negativity to him) became the governor of an absolutely poor region (one military industry in fact) in the most daring times, worse than in the 91m was not real. And he showed himself very well not only on TV, but also in practice. Yes, I didn’t really understand people, yes, I liked to hang out, twist my tail (and not only the tail), but he was neither a scoundrel nor a reptile, nor an observatory. He pulled Kiriyenko in Moscow time and lifted it to sky-high heights, and then he threw it, it is very Komsomol. I understand that “a good guy is not a profession”, but there is nothing for the inveterate bastards to do, and the existing system of people breaks up an animal primitive - steal, deceive, throw. I’m trying to convey to you the idea that corruption in the Russian Federation is not a systemic (as everywhere where there is access to other people's money and the ability to manage it) phenomenon, but a system-forming one. That is the fundamental difference. Take away corruption - the whole “vertical” collapses. It is built on negative selection. The higher the person, the less human. About infantilism is ridiculous. At the age of 24 I was a bigger boss (almost 50 people are subordinate and these are not soldiers) than now, when the children finish school. A couple of hundred people passed through me, whom I personally hired for my projects. How the world works, I do not know from the TV. Intrigue, squealing, theft - always infuriated and punished for it and drove out. And in power, this is the only thing that lives and will devour anyone who is not like that. I do not fantasize from the "left resources", I observe this all my life personally.
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            And here I am trying to convey to you that people are stuck together from one test, regardless of their origin, nationality, beliefs, position in society and profession. That this is a natural phenomenon, animal instinct - and that it is less manifested in those who are more human. I am trying to convey to you a prudent idea that those embezzlers and corrupt officials whom we know are only a small part of the political minority, which, by their presence, is stupid to make lynching and statements about the rest. This is the same as if I see at least one hooligan on the street, I will conclude that all 140 million people in our country are hooligans. Agree that this is stupid and wrong? That it’s the same as burning a beautiful woman at the stake because she is supposedly a witch and that she was seen in the forest!
            I’m trying to convey to you that leadership positions (whether in government or in the workplace) by their very nature postpone the psychological impact on a person’s personality - either you’ll be all friend, they will sit on your neck and will not listen to you, or you will show who here the owner is to the detriment of his "friendly qualities". Leadership is not a place where you can act as a naive and friendly person. On the one hand, your subordinates - who need to show who is the boss and lead them, and on the other hand, a higher leadership, whose attitude towards you is unpredictable.
            Regarding Nemtsov, he is from the same team as Berezovsky, Khodorkovsky and Litvinenko. He could say something rational and partly do it - but for the most part he proved himself to be a five-finder. He built an oil pipeline to Chechnya at the beginning of the first Chechen campaign. Agitated to "understand" the terrorists after the terrorist attack in the Nord-Ost. In words, he was on the side of those who brought the country in the 90s to a poor state. Hitler won over Germany as well after the Weimar Republic - but that does not make him good?
            Nevertheless, corruption is not systemically important. Corruption occurs when a person considers himself smarter than the others, when he wants more than they give him. This is one of the manifestations of the animal nature of man. Corruption is corrosive pus, the word itself is translated as "decay." she cannot form anything. This is just a foulbrood that needs to be promptly and quickly identified and removed so that the rest of the body does not bend from intoxication. But in no way kill the whole organism because pus has begun to form on it somewhere! I hope that my analogy is understandable.
            And in the end, I'm just trying to convey that corruption as a phenomenon will disappear only when a person changes his inner essence, when he becomes higher than his condition. And how many governments and social systems do not change, if not the tougher punishment - it existed, exists and will exist until humanity changes. 6000 years of human history is an example.
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              I read your comments and at first I felt like I was in a shit. I thought about it. And I felt sad that the negative selection in the System, of which you apparently are a part and that you are singing, filled the state machine with people like you.
              Corruption disappears when it is fought, and not waiting for the potential bribe taker to change his internal essence)
              A good leader does not need to keep subordinates in fear. We must be able to earn the respect of subordinates. To create a working atmosphere in a team in which even unimportant workers will not be able to work poorly. I have seen examples.
              The fraternal peoples - Ukraine, our propagandists, used to the fullest))) For 12 hours a day, on the central channels, we were shown what the protests lead to. And for some reason, the incomes of the population fell sharply for some reason and the fortunes of the Forbes guys sharply increased. Thank God, after the resignation of Medvedev, Ukraine on our television has become much less. Apparently it finally reached someone that this scarecrow could not work endlessly)
              1. Nameless 2 March 2020 23: 58 New
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                I probably communicate with a participant in a recent procession in honor of Nemtsov.

                In principle, it doesn't matter to me how impressed my comments are on you and others like you. I was completely reporting to myself that the liberals would come running here and would try to pick me up with their template pearls. I give arguments in defense of my country - and they try to overwhelm me with cribs from my manuals. A chorus of yapping mosque tries to hide one person. Well, at least the despicable slave of the system was not called laughing

                And I ask you - do not misinterpret my words. It looks wretched. Do not try to twist my words about the fact that the leader should lead his subordinates and not allow cronyism as if I said that he should inspire horror and fear for everyone. And do not ascribe to yourself what I said. I know that you like this practice - to attribute someone else's good to yourself and your bad to another - this will not work with me.

                I said so about corruption - that its presence does not depend on the social system or power, but on whether they fight it or not. Plus, I said that it can disappear completely not when the next crooks come to power with the slogans "give us power and we will equip the Galaxy", but only when a person changes - i.e. maybe never. But you seem to be just a tradesman - and therefore reacted to this with neglect and ridicule. Again, do not ascribe to myself my words and to me what I did not say.

                You are just another confirmation that the five-columnists are deceitful and hypocritical creatures. Try to conduct a constructive dialogue with you - that a man of a non-traditional orientation shakes hands. Well, God save your soul!

                In general, you have counted the drain.

                PS - but about the "fraternal" outskirts, I will leave no comment ... negative
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    1. Mikhail Korolev 2 March 2020 06: 20 New
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      Oh don’t say ... How they got it with their whining and template comments on all sites. I can’t hear this their "standard of living", "civilized countries" and the conversion of salaries and pensions in foreign currency and not according to expenses. One hope is that most of them are trolls or representatives of the "fraternal peoples", because if this is really written by Russians, I’m scared for the future of the country. Although I am saving myself here, at least adequate comments can be read here.
      1. Nameless 2 March 2020 13: 27 New
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        Representatives of the "fraternal" peoples are undoubtedly there. The first to come to mind are the Russian-speaking suburbs and Israelis. Nothing prevents them from accessing the resources of our Internet segment from their countries. But there are no trolls - for they are trying to get a person mad, to provoke him to insult and inappropriate behavior, to enjoy the fact that the whole man was furious with indignation, lost his face, began to pour insults and that he was finally banned. These are not trolls - this is exactly what our compatriots, mostly stupid young people (I would say that the generation of zeros, who are now somewhere in the range of 17-20 years old, who have not found the 90s and perceives everything that happens in the country according to the leftists) for the truth), which partly tries to gain independence and self-sufficiency from its parents - and therefore what is happening in the country perceived by leftist resources, Hollywood kin templates on the theme of “conspiracy theory” and “struggle with the System”, as well as through the prism of their rebellious spirit and conf elite with parents for independence; another part of youth naively believes that "the overthrow of totalitarian regimes", "the fight against tyranny and the System", protests, rallies, riots - this is stylish, fashionable, youth, that it is for such "not like everyone else", they think distinguishes them from the crowd of cattle and allows you not to go with the flow, allows you to feel outstanding personalities. Well, to a lesser extent, these are already adult “protesters”, for whom certain funds and wealthy influential uncles pay denyushka for such campaigning activities.
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  40. Zaur. 2 March 2020 06: 27 New
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    And not ashamed, by golly. The Turks, how many A-sadists with ichthamnets were sent to the other world, in packs. And yours, let me know the devices where, your hunters and so on. It should be a shame. Comrades are not going the right way!))
    1. EvilLion 2 March 2020 15: 44 New
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      Take off the pan, sickly. And a drone with a pair of small missiles is nothing against the background of the same F-16.
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    sen 2 March 2020 07: 39 New
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    The emphasis on drones is because Russia and Syria do not open airspace for Turkish military aviation

    Nevertheless, Turkish F-16s, two Syrian Su-24s shot down over Syria.
    Our little help the Syrians.
    1. EvilLion 2 March 2020 15: 43 New
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      There is no confirmation at all, not in poker, but in preference, and did not win, but lost.
  42. satelit24 2 March 2020 10: 21 New
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    10 minutes ago in the news on the first channel they said that Turkish drones destroyed Syrian air defense (in some place) and now there are a dozen of them flying with impunity! Who to believe then)))
  43. Black Colonel 2 March 2020 10: 24 New
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    Since such a booze has begun, why not ours use the Avtobaza, which the Persians landed an American UAV several years ago?
  44. megadeth 2 March 2020 10: 43 New
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    Damn, they mixed up the barmalei, Syria didn’t bring anyone down, Russia banned ..
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    Dm_ 2 March 2020 12: 28 New
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    Quote: satelit24
    10 minutes ago in the news on the first channel they said that Turkish drones destroyed Syrian air defense (in some place) and now there are a dozen of them flying with impunity! Who to believe then)))


    why shake the air in vain? :-)

    here are the news of 2 days ago, watch the video there (originals, from drones):
    https://www.dailysabah.com/politics/war-on-terror/turkey-carries-out-airstrikes-on-regime-targets-in-syria

    here "in the last 2 days"
    https://www.dailysabah.com/business/defense/damage-caused-to-assad-regime-assets-demonstrates-turkeys-high-uav-capabilities

    Threat in any browser there is a translator ...
  47. Butchcassidy 2 March 2020 14: 16 New
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    Russia needs to take a closer look at these drones: the Armed Forces of Ukraine bought the same ones to bomb the Donbass.
  48. Fishery 2 March 2020 16: 59 New
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    The title of course in the spirit of Soviet Truth)))
  49. gridasov 2 March 2020 19: 59 New
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    What was to be expected in general? These low-potential propeller-driven drones do not present any problems for detection and destruction. Especially at such a massive level
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