The militants managed to break into the line of defense of the SAA west of the city of Kafranbel

The militants managed to break into the line of defense of the SAA west of the city of Kafranbel

On the territory of the province of Idlib in Syria, militants made another attempt to attack the positions of the Syrian government forces. Having occupied with the support of Turkish troops Serakib and the important transport interchange M4-M5, the militants switched to the south.


Jihadists, with the support of Turkish artillery and strike UAVs, were able to wedge themselves in the line of defense of the SAA west of Kafranbel. The militants managed to seize several settlements, including Dar al-Kabir, Al-Khalub and others.

Turkish drones attacked the city of Kafranbel, which so far remains under the control of Syrian government forces.



It became known that the night before, the Turks bombed an SAA convoy near the village of Khas east of Kafranbel by an air strike. Syrian forces advanced reinforcements to the section of the front where the militants launched an offensive, but the Turkish armed forces did not allow this reinforcements to approach the Kafranbel-Khazzarin area.

Against this background, footage is published with crowds of Syrian refugees, who are trying to restrain the Greek border guards. According to recent reports, several thousand refugees have already managed to overcome the Greek cordon from Turkey, about 3 thousand more are ready to do so in the near future.


Meanwhile, in the edition Turkish minute Noteworthy material came out that with the two brothers of one of the Turkish soldiers who died recently in Syria (Akif Aksadag), military contracts were terminated (they were fired from the Turkish army). It turned out that representatives of the Aksadag family are supporters of the preacher Fethullah Gulen, who received asylum in the United States. Recall that several years ago, supporters of Gulen, with the support of Washington, tried to carry out a military coup in Turkey and remove Erdogan from his presidency. The publication says that today at least 30 thousand people are in Turkish prisons in the case of an attempted coup.
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  1. Vol4ara 1 March 2020 09: 08 New
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    "Meanwhile, the Turkish Minute publication released remarkable material about the fact that with the two brothers of one of the Turkish soldiers who died recently in Syria (Akif Aqsadag), military contracts were terminated (they were fired from the Turkish army)."

    Translate someone into Russian.

    Ps: well, you can already draw a line under the analytics of some VO citizens, whose Syrians "will beat the Turks with little blood on a foreign land"
    1. ancestors from Don 1 March 2020 09: 25 New
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      It is unclear why the Russian air defense systems will not completely close the airspace in the combat area? This would preclude reconnaissance and air strikes, and could it really be that past sad experience didn’t benefit as soon as the Russian airborne forces attack from a ground-based MANPADS just have to be an instant blow to this area no matter who moves in what chevrons.
      1. Ovrag 1 March 2020 09: 55 New
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        Obviously, drones cannot destroy the available air defense systems. Range is not enough or their EPR is small. We do not recognize and no one and min. defense will not tell us.
        I always said that bragging about our air defense, for which there are 0 shot down targets, is nothing more than a joy to the front regiments. On paper, it's all beautiful. And here is how it is in life. Time will tell. On the other hand, for Russia this will be a good lesson.
        1. Leeds 1 March 2020 10: 19 New
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          Quote: Ovrag
          Obviously, drones cannot destroy the available air defense systems. Range is not enough or their EPR is small. We do not recognize and no one and min. defense will not tell us.
          I always said that bragging about our air defense, for which there are 0 shot down targets, is nothing more than a joy to the front regiments. On paper, it's all beautiful. And here is how it is in life. Time will tell. On the other hand, for Russia this will be a good lesson.


          Few in the VO expected that the Turks knew how to fight. There was confidence that they can be thrown hats. As you can see, this is not so ... The Syrians (we) need to do something with the SAR air defense on the front line, otherwise no express will help ....

          I am glad that Iran has become swollen.
          1. Ovrag 1 March 2020 10: 24 New
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            And really. How did it happen that the second strongest army in the old world, knows how and can fight. It is like snow in winter in Russia. An unexpected sight. Kommunalschiki even at the end of winter from him fall into a stupor.
            Iran is likely to be the only bay. Weakening of Russia is partly beneficial to him. Since in any case, the next step after analyzing all this hut is a showdown with Iran. Secular Syrian power and theocrats bruised on the brain with the world Islamic revolution, clearly do not get along on the same field.
            1. Donkey driver 1 March 2020 10: 27 New
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              Iran invited Turkey to discuss the situation in Idlib without Russia.
              1. Ovrag 1 March 2020 10: 33 New
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                Apparently negotiations of the following nature. You are Sunnis. We are Shiites. Alavitov - nafig.
                1. Donkey driver 1 March 2020 10: 35 New
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                  And at the same time squeeze out extra players who are trying to claim something there.
                  1. Grits 1 March 2020 10: 53 New
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                    Quote: Donkey driver
                    And at the same time squeeze out extra players who are trying to claim something there.

                    That is - Russia. That’s exactly what cowardly politics leads to.
                2. ABM
                  ABM 1 March 2020 11: 02 New
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                  The Alawites are Syrian Shiites. No others
                  1. Ovrag 1 March 2020 11: 40 New
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                    Yes and no. This is a separate course. As far as I know, they do not recognize the ayatollah and that's all. Therefore, Iran does not really need them.
                3. igorj 51 1 March 2020 11: 19 New
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                  So the Alawites, by the way, are also Shiites. This is just a variation of Shiites. No wonder Iran supports them.
            2. Malyuta 1 March 2020 11: 40 New
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              Quote: Ovrag
              And really. How did it happen that the second strongest army in the old world, knows how and can fight. It is like snow in winter in Russia. An unexpected sight. Kommunalschiki even at the end of winter from him fall into a stupor.

              For a minister who has medals to the navel, this is a complete surprise, but the daughter of the general-major, or rather the general-major, apparently she plans the operations ..
            3. sustav75 1 March 2020 13: 27 New
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              Iranians are still allies! They sleep and see how Russia will leave Syria! So, Israel will help us! May the God-chosen wet the Allah-chosen ones!
          2. Victorio 1 March 2020 10: 25 New
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            Quote: Leeds
            Few in the VO expected that the Turks knew how to fight. There was confidence that they can be thrown hats. As you can see, this is not so ..

            ===
            flood the area with drones, and then work with artillery, and all this with very weak Syrian air defense and the inaction of the forces of the Russian Federation, then. probably this is the ability to fight
            1. Grits 1 March 2020 10: 54 New
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              Quote: Victorio
              probably this is the ability to fight

              Or the inability of the other side
              1. Dog
                Dog 1 March 2020 12: 38 New
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                Quote: Gritsa
                inability of the other side

                unwillingness
            2. Misha Honest 1 March 2020 13: 39 New
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              Quote: Victorio
              flood the area with drones, and then work with artillery, and all this with very weak Syrian air defense and the inaction of the forces of the Russian Federation, then. probably this is the ability to fight

              This is at least competent: planning, forecasting the actions of the enemy, intelligence. And then the sensible use of all this and technical means in battle. This is what the Turks showed. This is what modern warfare is. winked
          3. Grits 1 March 2020 10: 52 New
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            Quote: Leeds
            Few in the VO expected that the Turks knew how to fight. There was confidence that they can be thrown hats.

            1904 year. History is forgotten.
            1. alexmach 1 March 2020 12: 01 New
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              1904 year. History is forgotten.

              I have already posted agitation posters here of that time.

              But for the sake of justice - the forum did not enlighten. The authorities behave noticeably more cautiously than the "holy" Emperor. Confrontations with the Turks are avoided. Why, then, was there to begin the operation in Idlib at all?
              1. TAMBU 1 March 2020 14: 45 New
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                there, after good announcement of the end of the operation, it was necessary to take away legs ...
                1. alexmach 1 March 2020 14: 48 New
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                  there, after good announcement of the end of the operation, it was necessary to take away legs ...

                  There, it was quite clear that even after the announcement, nothing was really finished, and that there the situation would be very difficult for more than one year.
                  Take away the legs? And why was there then to meddle? That’s what I had to do with this Idlib and Turkey somehow it was completely not obvious.
                  1. TAMBU 1 March 2020 15: 36 New
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                    And why was there then to meddle?

                    Economic interests ... but when the closure of the operation was announced, it seemed that there was more damage than potential profit ...
                    1. alexmach 1 March 2020 15: 38 New
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                      So they are long-term economic interests, for decades, aren't they?
                      1. TAMBU 1 March 2020 15: 44 New
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                        well ... in theory, yes, but in Russian practice, the business mentality has developed in such a way that if the grandmother doesn’t beat off the grandmother in two years, then it’s a matter of seams and only enthusiasts will deal with it) Echo of the 90s =)
                      2. alexmach 1 March 2020 15: 57 New
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                        This has long been wrong, including in Russian business. Well, it’s understandable that nothing can be repelled in Syria in a year or two, during this time only certain political goals can be solved.
                      3. TAMBU 1 March 2020 16: 15 New
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                        This has long been wrong, including in Russian business.
                        It’s too early to talk about this, often under a long-term business plan there is nothing other than the conditionally “desire to quickly cut an enterprise into metal” ... wait and see)
        2. Dog
          Dog 1 March 2020 12: 46 New
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          1700 year
          1739 year
          1774 year
          1791 year
          1812 year
          1829 year
          1853 year
          1878 year
          1916 year

          The story is clearly forgotten. You first.
          1. cat Rusich 1 March 2020 20: 37 New
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            Let us recall the Crimean campaigns of 1687 and 1689 (leaders G. Kosagov, V. Golitsin), the Azov campaigns of 1695 and 1696 (leader Peter 1), the Prut campaign of 1711 (leader Peter 1), the Crimean War of 1853-1856, and 1918 - the Brest Peace and the loss of Kara areas ... History is already forgotten. Today in Syria you need to act for sure, Idlib needed to be freed in 2018.
            1. Dog
              Dog 1 March 2020 21: 47 New
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              Quote: cat Rusich
              Brest peace

              Write about the story, but you have no idea what the dates you provided actually contain. Take your “Brest Peace”: we piled on Turkey in that war exemplary, and the Brest peace here is not at all a consolation to her.

              Quote: cat Rusich
              Idlib needed to be freed in 2018

              Now is not the 18th and we have no time machine. So free in current dates.
              1. cat Rusich 1 March 2020 22: 10 New
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                I wrote the dates and names of historical events, so that the reader would know what to write in the "search engine" (for example Yandex). The Brest Peace is an example of the fact that a won war can go into defeat. Idlib is an example of the fact that you first need to Win, to hold Victory in your hands, and then you can "indulge" with diplomacy, but not give up the positions that are already taken. The Crimean campaigns of 1687 and 1689, the Prut campaign of 1711, the Crimean War of 1853-1856 are an example of underestimating the forces of Turkish capabilities and a complete lack of understanding of the international situation before the Crimean War of 1853-1856.
                1. Dog
                  Dog 1 March 2020 22: 43 New
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                  Quote: cat Rusich
                  I wrote the dates and names of historical events, so that the reader would know

                  Yes, you yourself pulled these dates from Wikipedia. And what lies beneath them - not at all. The same campaigns of Peter: well, he took the fortress from the second time, you still write down each of our separate unsuccessful assaults on your victories in the war, but strained with real victories.
                  And most importantly, what is the result? As a result, bullying on Russia and constantly getting lule due for it, the Turkish empire lost most of its territories, turning into a third-rate country, which, if viewed now with interest, is only for its geographical location (Black Sea gates and a convenient base for attack to Russia). This is the most important lesson that Erdogan about Ko can not learn in any way - and I'm trying to jump on the same rake with a run.
                  1. cat Rusich 1 March 2020 23: 25 New
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                    In the Crimean War of 1853-1856 - in the Republic of Ingushetia they said: "... we will throw our hats ..." (about the battle on the Alma River on September 8 (20), 1854). The result of the Crimean War of 19853-1856 - RI lost, and the OI then considered it a "sick man" (almost a corpse), only we lost WE - the Russian Empire. Peter 1 in the Prut campaign of 1711 lost what he won in the Azov campaigns of 1695 and 1696, almost everyone has already forgotten about the unsuccessful campaigns and wars of Russia and simply "crave a small victorious war." About the current situation between Turkey and Russia - “the whole world” wants a war between Russia and Turkey. "The whole world" will help Turkey in the war with Russia (remember the war of the USSR and Afghanistan 1979-1989). Today, the “Sultan” is holding the EU’s testicles by the hands of Syrian refugees ... and Russia? - “Academician Chersky” distills through 3 oceans in order to complete the SP-2.
                  2. Dog
                    Dog 2 March 2020 08: 57 New
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                    Quote: cat Rusich
                    The result of the Crimean War of 19853-1856 - RI lost, and the OI then considered it a "sick man" (almost a corpse), only we lost WE - the Russian Empire.

                    Turkey was a corpse. Russia would have disposed of that corpse without any particular problems if our western "partners" had not intervened. Or have you forgotten how the Turks beat until the "allies" arrived in time for them?
                    But even despite the permanent assistance of European states, the outcome of the wars with Russia for the Turks is sad - they lost everything, or almost everything. Russia, on the other hand, acquired vast territories, gained access to the Black Sea and other nishtyaks.
                    The clever Turks will not forget about the fatalities of wars with the Russians, and the stupid ones will rush at the first successful chance to the same rake.
                  3. cat Rusich 2 March 2020 20: 10 New
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                    The strategy of the “West” is to push the Ottoman Empire (Turkey) with the Russian Empire (USSR, Russia), then help Turkey ... The technique worked out for centuries (18th century, 19th century, 20th century), today is the 21st century, but the reception is still stubborn pretend to be.
  2. Nyrobsky 1 March 2020 11: 02 New
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    Quote: Leeds
    Few in the VO expected that the Turks knew how to fight. There was confidence that they can be thrown hats. As you can see, this is not so ...

    The "charm" of the situation is that the SAA does not conduct targeted military operations against the Turks, but is engaged in the extortion of bearded scum. However, in a few days, the Turks lost more than 30 w / s. All Turkish losses are accompanying during the Syrian operation against the militants, among whom the Turks hang around. What prevents the Syrians from smashing Turkish b / posts (according to some information 11) that were in the rear of the SAA, and taking Turkish soldiers entrenched in them, which would make them the subject of bargaining with Erdogan? In principle, the Syrian army has not yet begun to fight the Turks, despite the fact that the Turks are mean and frankly on the side of the militants. There is another question, how many really dead Turkish soldiers are there, given the fact that Ankara is dressing the militants in the form of the Turkish army, which, having been dealt with, can be filed as Turkish losses in order to get an occasion to strike at SAA positions.
    The Syrians (us) need to do something with the SAR air defense on the front line, otherwise no express will help ....
    As for air defense, yes, the Syrians are worse off in this direction than the same Haftar, who literally dropped 4 Turkish drummers in a few days.
    1. bar
      bar 1 March 2020 11: 44 New
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      The "charm" of the situation is that the SAA does not conduct targeted military operations against the Turks, but is engaged in the extortion of bearded scum.

      Apparently, Russia asked not to start a large-scale war with Turkey in anticipation of the results of negotiations with Erdogan. Let’s wait how they end. The modern Syrian army is also quite combat-ready, and with the support of Russia it is quite capable of competing with the Turks.
      1. Nyrobsky 1 March 2020 11: 53 New
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        Apparently, Russia asked not to start a large-scale war with Turkey in anticipation of the results of negotiations with Erdogan. Let’s wait how they end. The modern Syrian army is also quite combat-ready, and with the support of Russia it is quite capable of competing with the Turks.
        It seems like that. Let's see how events will develop after March 5, when Erdogan and GDP communicate face to face. hi
        1. bar
          bar 1 March 2020 12: 15 New
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          I hope it will do without a big war. The Sultan is too losing a position to start. He has no allies at all, quarreled with anyone he could. And inside the country, his situation is not ice. Striped if they intervene, it is more likely on the side of Gulen, and not Erdogan.
  3. Dog
    Dog 1 March 2020 12: 37 New
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    Quote: Leeds
    Few in the VO expected that the Turks knew how to fight.

    Well, the Turks always knew how to cock.
    But how they know how to fight - shows our account with them.
  • Alexey G 1 March 2020 10: 21 New
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    bragging about our air defense, for which there are 0 shot down targets
    And who puts the pros here ???
    That is, Powers and McCain we did not shoot down with our air defense? Turkish aviation in the person of their toys will receive a good lesson, Comrade Ravine! Everything is fine with range and epr! They simply did not expect that the Turks would openly fight with Assad, having forgotten that they should fight terrorism, and not help it! We were preparing an operation against the barmalei, and not against the Turks!
    I am sure that the Turks will learn a good lesson! Lyuley they will receive in full!
    1. Ovrag 1 March 2020 10: 32 New
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      And the Teutons were beaten in the palm. McCain. 1960s ... Or do you propose to put C75 in Syria? Great idea. You urgently need to headquarters.
      1. Alexey G 1 March 2020 10: 33 New
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        I suggest not spoiling the history of our troops! And give our headquarters time to think about how to respond to the aggressor in the person of the former ally!
        We won’t even shoot them down! They themselves will land on the ground and give the Turkish arte the coordinates of the barmalei for the strike! Kraukha will help! We have weapons to replace the C75 and the sword of Alexander NEVSKI! HOLY DO NOT TOUCH!
        1. Donkey driver 1 March 2020 10: 35 New
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          Why ex? Foreign Ministry made a demarche? Something is not visible political and legal consequences. I'm not talking about the military. Deep concern and formidable sniffing in two holes is not the answer.
        2. Ovrag 1 March 2020 10: 42 New
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          Well, I doubt that we have real practicing necromancers in our country. Therefore, it is necessary to fight with those and those that are now, and not what was still for the king of peas. So far, all the new air defense systems of Russia have real victories on zeros. And soak this score of chances was a wagon. But everything somehow does not add up. And if they don’t do it again, then their reputation will suffer the most.
          That Arrows can be shot down we knew before. Show already in work С300-400.
          1. Alexey G 1 March 2020 10: 47 New
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            So far, all the new air defense systems of Russia have real victories on zeros.

            What an outburst of lies! Our air defense systems saved Syria from US cruise missiles !!! Otherwise, the Assad would have been wiped out by the Americans!
            1. Ovrag 1 March 2020 10: 50 New
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              Link to Old. About the missile reflection of the US attack in Syria by the forces of C300-400. I read with interest.
              1. Alexey G 1 March 2020 14: 51 New
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                And what does the c300 have to do with it? They beat our other air defense systems delivered to Syria!
                https://tvzvezda.ru/news/vstrane_i_mire/content/201804251239-lja9.htm
              2. Alexey G 2 March 2020 23: 37 New
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                Well urapanikers! Read the news today! So this is the beginning!
            2. Souchastnik 1 March 2020 12: 04 New
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              Our air defense systems saved Syria from US cruise missiles !!!

              They saved us from the Kyrgyz Republic, but something doesn’t work from the UAV. Is it otherwise a cunning plan again, which we are not destined to realize?
          2. grandfather_Kostya 1 March 2020 13: 09 New
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            Show already in work С300-400.

            First of all, military-political expediency is needed for this. Not at the test site after all.
        3. Alexey G 1 March 2020 10: 43 New
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          And what kind of enemies are they minus me then?
          1. bar
            bar 1 March 2020 11: 47 New
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            Sect of all-scum with other polymers
            1. Dog
              Dog 1 March 2020 12: 54 New
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              Sect of the All-Fear

              Bots. Then the Turkish carpets brought a crowd of bots, because without them (and with them) you will immediately see the attitude of the forum population towards their intelligence
          2. Misha Honest 1 March 2020 13: 53 New
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            And what kind of enemies are they minus me then?

            I slammed you minus - you are carrying idealistic nonsense. Here you need to think for a cold head.
            PS. History No one offends the Russian army. And do not confuse history and modernity - what happened was what happened, but what now raises questions ... And involuntarily, parallels have been forming in my head since 1904 - then all the yaps were also thrown with caps.
        4. ochakow703 1 March 2020 10: 56 New
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          Are they bringing “Kraukha" on deer from Taimyr?
        5. Grits 1 March 2020 10: 58 New
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          Quote: Alexey G
          We won’t even shoot them down! They themselves will land on the ground and give the Turkish arte the coordinates of the barmalei for the strike! Kraukha will help!

          After what has happened in recent days, your fantasies already cause not a patriotic upsurge, but a hysterical laugh.
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          We won’t even shoot them down! They themselves will land on the ground and give the Turkish arte the coordinates of the barmalei for the strike!


          The old woman was pushing the carriage in front of her, in which Schweik was sitting in a uniform cap with a brilliant cockade and brandishing crutches. On his jacket was a motley bunch of flowers. This man, without stopping for a minute, shouted to the whole street: "To Belgrade! To Belgrade!"
    2. Alexey Sommer 1 March 2020 10: 38 New
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      They just didn’t expect the Turks to openly fight with Assad,

      Is this the answer of a serious person?)
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      That's when the Turks get the “lyuley", then you + get it. In the meantime, we are in full popp ...
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        Quote: ochakow703
        That's when the Turks get the “lyuley", then you + get it. In the meantime, we are in full popp ...

        I read the comments and quietly go nuts from such comments. The feeling that I went to the Ragul site.
        What kind of oppa are we in? In diplomatic or military?
        Are we fighting Turkey? Turkey is fighting with us?
        Got comments hysterical and inadequate.
        Yes, the Turks want the hands of Turkoman and vacationers to fuck their gesheft there, but this is primarily the problem of Syria, they lived in Damascus for almost 10 years.
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          1. Dog
            Dog 1 March 2020 12: 56 New
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            just like Russia in the Donbass

            The rogue immediately burns
        2. ochakow703 1 March 2020 11: 39 New
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          No need to rank me as a "ragul". I am sorry for the guys who are now in Syria, but for those who gave their lives over the years. And the Turks are there, or even some hippos - it's on the drum. The sovereignty of Syria has not yet been canceled, and we have been invited to help restore order in this territory. Well, where do the Turks? Legitimate authority is violated, the territory is occupied, people are dying. What are we waiting for?
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      Quote: Alexey G
      They simply did not expect that the Turks would openly fight with Assad, having forgotten that they should fight terrorism, and not help it! We were preparing an operation against the barmalei, and not against the Turks!

      So our general staff is worthless if it has not provided plans for all possible threats. This is a failure of planning. Gerasimova - to the factory, to the machine.
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        bar 1 March 2020 11: 53 New
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        So our general staff is good for nothing

        Fortunately, it is not the General Staff who decides to start a full-scale war. And those who accept it have not yet exhausted all the possibilities to prevent it. That negotiations will be held with the Sultan, we'll see. Until then, Assad’s troops must struggle to keep and not let the adversaries go.
        1. Grits 1 March 2020 12: 14 New
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          That negotiations will be held with the Sultan, we'll see.

          Until these negotiations begin, the Turks will roll the entire CAA into a thin pancake. And in fact it turns out that the territory that the Sultan will get will be even larger than before. And in the absence of an army, the barmalei calmly sink to Hama, Homs. Who will stop them? Our VKS? This is called - with one movement of the hand multiplied by zero all the successes of the fight against terrorism.
          1. bar
            bar 1 March 2020 12: 22 New
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            Katz once again offers to give up? I think it's too early. CAA is also far from helpless, until the 5th day it will completely keep the defense. And then we'll see who first blinks. Either the sultan enters the mind and fastens his war, or a normal war begins with full-scale support of Russia on all fronts, up to blocking gas / tourism, etc.
    5. Fishery 1 March 2020 11: 16 New
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      I’ll shoot that trocha of Muscovites. - Well, how are you? - And what is that for? ... so did the Russian Armed Forces in Syria with the Turks
    6. Souchastnik 1 March 2020 11: 58 New
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      I am sure that the Turks will learn a good lesson! Lyuley they will receive in full!

      So far, the Syrians are getting the Lyuli. It is possible that I do not understand everything in politics, but we still need to decide why we are in Syria. Or act more decisively supporting our allies, or leave Syria. Sitting, waiting and observing it is not clear that when people die ... It seems to me that we (Russia) look, to put it mildly, not really. And performances like "Yes, we have them with one left, let them just get involved" are complete garbage. While I do not consider effective strategic decisions.
      1. bar
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        It is possible that I do not understand everything in politics, but we still need to decide why we are in Syria.

        Well, decide already, why crumple the rolls? As for GDP, I think that it was decided a long time ago and will not recede. Just before you take the Turks seriously, it gives the Sultan a chance to get out of the slimy situation. Serious decisions are not made on the run, especially since not all options for preventing war have yet been exhausted.
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      And who puts the pros here ???

      This is an invasion of bots. Here it happens, do not pay attention.
  • Alexey Sommer 1 March 2020 10: 33 New
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    There rubella and other stuff they have enough range.
    The communication channel with the help of electronic warfare is simply clogged.
    Just the eggs are weak at decision-makers.
    Turkish stream however.
    “Whoever chooses between shame and war receives both” (C)
    1. Ovrag 1 March 2020 10: 44 New
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      Resistance to electronic warfare is also a very important factor for air defense. Actually factor # 1.
  • iouris 1 March 2020 11: 29 New
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    Quote: Ovrag
    for Russia it will be a good lesson.

    For a country of unlearned lessons, all future lessons will be bad. But there will be less information.
  • Slon1978 1 March 2020 11: 36 New
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    Obviously, drones cannot destroy the available air defense systems. Range is not enough or their EPR is small. We do not recognize and no one and min. defense will not tell us.
    I always said that bragging about our air defense, for which there are 0 shot down targets, is nothing more than a joy to the front regiments.

    You obviously don’t. Our air defense (S-300, S-400, Pansciri) cover primarily Khmeimim and Tartus and have more than a dozen shot down targets in Syria. Syria’s air defense is concentrated on protecting key objects (airfields, large warehouses, Damascus) from air strikes from Israel, from air defense of the battlefield (like Tor) or short-medium range (Buk, Shell) at the SSA tight, before the militants did not use aircraft and such systems are not deployed in combat formations at the SSA, but most likely they are simply few and they perform the tasks indicated above. Put CCA MANPADS is not a fact that will help, because drones operate at night, here you need Torah, Buki, Armor and in sufficient quantities at the forefront.
  • alexmach 1 March 2020 11: 58 New
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    Obviously, drones cannot destroy the available air defense systems

    Why not destroy. The shells against them are the other thing, the shells cannot cover the advancing troops, or Assad simply does not have enough. Also against them should be good military OSA, Arrows and Tunguska. These drones are not such a difficult target. Another thing is that Syrians do not have military air defense. They can also be destroyed by Su-35 and Su-30 ...
  • Sarmat Sanych 1 March 2020 14: 56 New
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    Ovrag, troll - do not disgrace here and do not flood. Do not confuse the crap mattressic multi-billion dollar air defense that is not even capable of shooting down Chinese whistles of Hussites and ancient missiles in Iraq with the most powerful Russian air defense on the planet. We still did not even show the capabilities of our weapons by 1%, although in 2016 and 2018 we playfully shot down two Global Hawk mattresses over the SAR at an altitude of 17-20 km. Naturally "by chance"laughing.
    I remind you, trolls, in 2015 I will remind Assad controlled only 12% of the SAR, Idlib and Aleppo do not mention at all, while now more than 80% of the country have squeezed the Idlib from the Barmaleans and 6 military bases have been squeezed out of the Americans with our participation earlier and a noble piece of northern Syria.
    PS The fact that you get trolls from hundreds of Turkish blindmen in coffins is normal, get used to itgood.
  • Stas157 1 March 2020 09: 57 New
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    It is not clear why Russian air defense systems will not completely cover airspace.

    Questions to the Supreme. It is important who commands the herd of lions, according to the well-known dictum of Napoleon.
    While the Turks are doing their dirty deed, they explain themselves and condolences to them.
    1. Sarmat Sanych 1 March 2020 15: 08 New
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      Stas157, what kind of "Turks are doing their job" if they have squeezed out half the Idlib and Assad already controls 80% of the ATS?) While all over the world they squeak, shout, boast and panic - Russia silently crushes like a boa constrictor and does its job. And do not boast of the victories of the 2nd NATO army over the bloodless Syrian war, it would be tantamount to a student proud of his victory over a junior high school student, from whom he nevertheless got fingals. The Turks, at their capabilities, are tremendously surprisingly disabled warriors, which is what more than a hundred coffins of Turkish soldiers show over the past 2 months, I generally keep silent about the several thousand recycled broads during this time.
  • Chaldon48 1 March 2020 10: 51 New
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    After the attacks on the Turkish troops of Russia, he indulges in stopping economic cooperation with Turkey.
    1. Stas157 1 March 2020 11: 09 New
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      After hitting Turkish troops

      This is not about hitting the troops, but only about closing the sky over Idlib. About this closure. After all, they announced the closure of the sky for the Turkish Air Force, and why do drones fly there ?? It is necessary to plant. Especially none "troops"are not present there.

      Turks brazenly beat from MANPADS on our planes, and our Turkish drones are afraid to touch!
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      Dog 1 March 2020 12: 51 New
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      Turkish in

      Turkish - it is written with a small letter, the carpet * you are Turkish.

      * carpet is such a litter
  • Fishery 1 March 2020 11: 11 New
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    can't because
  • spectr 1 March 2020 11: 44 New
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    Most likely the range is not enough. There probably 150 kilometers from Hmeimim, where our equipment is located. Given the EPR and UAV altitude, the limiting range at which they can be detected from the ground is about 50 km. There, the A-50 probably needs to be raised to ensure the guidance of Syrian air defense.
  • Malyuta 1 March 2020 11: 45 New
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    Quote: Ancestors from the Don
    It is unclear why the Russian air defense systems will not completely close the airspace in the combat area?

    If the old Kuzyu weren’t broken by a faucet, he could easily cover the entire DB theater with a smoke screen, the main thing was to take into account the direction of the wind, and now what to do without Kuzi?
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    I have not looked at VO for a long time! I look here all the same! Some questions- "why yes why" "where the air defense" "close the sky" I can’t stand you dear formuchans !!! You yourself are not tired of WHY? Because the weak, dependent, spineless V.V.P. I’ll come here again, in a year, I hope that I won’t laugh again ...
    1. Sergey Freeman_61 1 March 2020 21: 33 New
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      I agree 100%. How can you not recall the general secretaries and the Politburo. Already sick of the Cunning Wow and his sandbox.
  • Alexey from Perm 1 March 2020 13: 25 New
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    Unfortunately, our fear, or an agreement with the Turks
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    So the Syrian do not close.
  • Malyuta 1 March 2020 09: 28 New
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    Well, you can already draw a line under the analytics of some VO citizens, whose Syrians "will beat the Turks with little blood on a foreign land"

    All of their analytics was collected and gleaned from the evening M. program. But in fact, the situation is, to put it mildly, alarming. If the SAA continues to lose ground and the Tukoman take over territories, then healthy people will have a logical question, what was it for 5 years and how such an embarrassment could happen if we all won already 5-6 times, which the President of the Russian Federation tirelessly stated.
  • YOUR 1 March 2020 09: 28 New
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    I’m also interested in the question for the 3rd year already. When half the air group was withdrawn, it was said that now there are no barmales and are not expected, we defeated them. Then who, already year after year, has been trying to destroy our air group with its UAVs, attacks and shelling right up to mortars, and against whom the SAA is fighting? For mortars, the maximum range is 6 - 7 km, the barmalei have others in a row. And which tanks are periodically knocked out by SAA fighters, where do they come from.
    1. Vol4ara 1 March 2020 09: 33 New
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      Quote: YOUR
      I’m also interested in the question for the 3rd year already. When half the air group was withdrawn, it was said that now there are no barmales and are not expected, we defeated them. Then who, already year after year, has been trying to destroy our air group with its UAVs, attacks and shelling right up to mortars, and against whom the SAA is fighting? For mortars, the maximum range is 6 - 7 km, the barmalei have others in a row. And which tanks are periodically knocked out by SAA fighters, where do they come from.

      So defeated the igil. Well, in thought, the militants from the igil remained, but the igil is defeated.
    2. Mitroha 1 March 2020 09: 49 New
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      That is, for three years you did not bother to research the information and find the answer to your questions. Enchanting laziness))
      After the end of large-scale hostilities another 20 years into the civilian one, they drove the remnants of all kinds of trash around the country. And then they did not take everyone out. How is a terrorist without weapons different from a civilian?
      1. YOUR 1 March 2020 10: 17 New
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        And those that are no different now broke through the front, and even with tanks and infantry fighting vehicles.
        1. Grits 1 March 2020 11: 08 New
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          Quote: YOUR
          And those that are no different now broke through the front and even with tanks and infantry fighting vehicles

          And I am no longer surprised that our VKS will not touch them. Because in their crowd you can scratch the Turkish military. And our GS is afraid of the third world. And these already 6 times destroyed militants will calmly sink to Damascus itself.
          1. Ros 56 1 March 2020 11: 18 New
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            Are you not afraid of the third world? Well, why write nonsense, everyone is afraid, because the fourth will be with sticks and stones.
            1. Kapral Alphych 1 March 2020 11: 34 New
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              Then they will reach Moscow, if one so argues.
              1. Ros 56 1 March 2020 11: 36 New
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                Who are they, actually speaking about the Turks?
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                  Above in the commentary about the destroyed militants they wrote, "So they will go down to Damascus." So I told you that “I’m afraid of teeth (3rd world), don’t give me a mouth”))) It’s clear that there are threats, but if you retreat, you will end up in the abyss.
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              Quote: Ros 56
              Are you not afraid of the third world? Well, why write nonsense, everyone is afraid, because the fourth will be with sticks and stones.

              At first I wanted to correct you, but then I realized that the Third World War is already coming (towards Israel sticks and stones are thrown))) for a long time ..
              And the fourth will begin if Russia begins to fight and when they get it! hi
            3. Grits 1 March 2020 12: 04 New
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              Quote: Ros 56
              Are you not afraid of the third world? Well, why write nonsense, everyone is afraid, because the fourth will be with sticks and stones.

              Everyone is afraid. But all the same, they act on the basis of their interests. And only our General Staff covers its inability and cowardice with a fear of starting a third world.
              1. Kunica 1 March 2020 12: 58 New
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                There is not inability and cowardice, but reluctance to lose contracts, bills and property. Everything looted at home, is there, and for this we smile and wave.
    3. Ros 56 1 March 2020 10: 22 New
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      Is it news to you that the Turks supply everything, including tanks. Already how many videos are uploaded. And GDP somehow doesn’t really pluck Eric Ottoman. Nobody tells us what is planned and what is planned, whether it is unknown. request
      1. ochakow703 1 March 2020 11: 02 New
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        Everything is for sale ... The honor of our military in Syria was sold for Gazprom profits, nuclear power plants and tomatoes.
        1. Deck 1 March 2020 11: 25 New
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          You’ll be careful here, the moderator for the “tomatoes” demolished me here in the next branch
          1. ochakow703 1 March 2020 11: 32 New
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            So it depends on what kind of tomatoes ... I'm purely about vegetables. O Great and Mighty Russian language !!!
            1. Deck 1 March 2020 11: 35 New
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              And I'm talking about vegetables. This is called trolling and provocation. This is a very painful reminder. wink
              1. ochakow703 1 March 2020 11: 49 New
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                Oh, how is it ?! Live a century, study a century ... Michurin is a pity, he worked with it from the heart.
      2. YOUR 1 March 2020 13: 40 New
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        And how will he pull it? Erdogan has a fairly independent policy, he sent the United States with the bloc, you think he will listen to Putin.
    4. Malyuta 1 March 2020 11: 48 New
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      Quote: YOUR
      I’m also interested in the question for the 3rd year already. When half the air group was withdrawn, it was said that now there are no barmales and are not expected, we defeated them. Then who, already year after year, has been trying to destroy our air group with its UAVs, attacks and shelling right up to mortars, and against whom the SAA is fighting? For mortars, the maximum range is 6 - 7 km, the barmalei have others in a row. And which tanks are periodically knocked out by SAA fighters, where do they come from.

      Don’t worry, barmalei is a fake of them!
  • Lord of the Sith 1 March 2020 09: 29 New
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    I quote the telegrams of the Rybar channel, in my opinion the most balanced assessment of the situation.
    The fisherman, [01.03.20 01:30]
    And now a little common sense.
    The deadline for the ultimatum given to the Syrians to “stop the aggression in Idlib” has expired. This was marked at the official level so far only by a conversation between Erdogan and Macron - the latter then called Putin and asked him not to bomb the Syrian north.
    The Internet, which was supposed to get used to the massive hype on the bones from the Turkish trolls, believes in the fables about 59 F-16s in the skies of Idlib, which, with some fright, were given two more tankers.
    Virtual F-16s strike, make columns and destroy entire airfields - for example, now they are talking about the destruction of the International Terminal of Aleppo (aka Neurab), appealing to the oldest photo that easily breaks through Google.
    In fact, there are indeed attacks by Turkish UAVs and Turkish artillery. However, some of them are a cut of old personnel from operations "Source of Peace" and "Olive Branch", and some were captured at all in Libya during operations against the Libyan National Army.
    All unconditionally believe the words about 2000+ killed Syrians and almost hundreds of armored vehicles destroyed by the Turks. But no one writes that the Syrians, for example, today reported on the elimination of 300+ militants just outside Sarakib. And the Syrians have video confirmations. As there is video confirmation of the dead Turks. But the militants have sporadic videos of captured Syrians and squeezed pages from social networks, not backed up by anything other than photos of the profile of the “corpse” from Facebook.
    Against the backdrop of the total “clutter” of the agenda with video sequences from the Turks, for some reason no one even wonders if the Russian Air Force and Syrian Air Force strike? Apply. Right now. And the Syrians claim several destroyed Turkish UAVs.

    But no.
    The entire Russian-language segment of the Internet in unison yells "Russia has leaked Syria!" and extols the virtual military muscle of Erdogan the father.
    1. Ratmir_Ryazan 1 March 2020 09: 45 New
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      In fact, there are indeed attacks by Turkish UAVs and Turkish artillery. However, some of them are slicing old frames from operations


      But the reality, the troops of Syria, and Russia, have buried themselves in holes -



      Russian air defense systems and fighters in Syria are just expensive and useless trash.

      At the same time, Turkey has only about 10 pieces of Anka-S UAVs and they were able to completely stop the offensive of the Syrian army and Russia, and now they already support the militants' offensive.

      Russia did not merge, Russia is simply powerless with its armada against 10 UAVs and disgraced the whole world.

      Shame and shame.
      1. Redline 1 March 2020 10: 22 New
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        This video is mounted fake
      2. serzh.kost 1 March 2020 10: 52 New
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        Do you really think that the Turks are ten !!! UAV bend the Syrian army? wassat then you don’t understand the topic at all.
        not tired of whining yet? more like a bot, putinsil, rashkavsё, everything is gone.
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          Do you really think that the Turks are ten !!!


          And how many UAV strike turrets do you have in Turkey? Hundreds?

          Yes, Turkey has about 10 strike UAVs and they bend down, striking themselves and adjusting artillery fire !!! And our air defense is just scrap.

          It would be different, now the entire Internet would be littered with photos and videos of downed Turkish UAVs in Syria, but for example I saw only one Anka-S UAV on the ground, which might not even have been shot down, but simply crashed.

          absolutely do not understand the topic.


          You look at the topic, well, explain to me then why our air defense and fighters in Syria and Syrian air defense consisting of Russian air defense systems could not do anything with Turkish UAVs ?!

          not tired of whining yet?


          Until I see that from the shame of our air defense in Idlib did not draw conclusions I will not calm down !!! I do not need excuses and sedatives, I need strike UAVs in the Russian army and the means that can deal with them.

          We can’t do anything against Turkey, today Ukraine has Turkish UAVs, I don’t even want to talk about NATO and China.

          Shame and shame, and I have no other feelings for this situation.
          1. serzh.kost 1 March 2020 11: 44 New
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            bend not 10 shock UAVs, although they also hit well. here is a bunch of reconnaissance UAVs and artillery. and the Turks have a lot of reconnaissance UAVs.

            Quote: donavi49
            Well, what to do?

            MiGi29 - Assad most likely fell apart. Their 4 years no one saw in the air. Probably, the service was reduced in favor of priority programs. And again, you can fight UAVs only with a constant presence in the area, which even in the first year for the old Syrian MiGs would be a finite time task.

            MiGi-21/23 fly, but they are almost useless against UAVs. Because you need clear guidance almost to visual detection.

            EW who plant all this tales. Everything is complicated there. It is possible to crap / complicate the work - but really the EW problem cannot be solved.

            Air defense. This is dangerous. Close completely even a small area from small targets is difficult. We'll have to substitute the same Armor, Buki for artillery and MLRS attacks. Moreover, if you shine, then I can bet that it will immediately arrive at the source because of the PRR ribbon. For distances allow. Turn on the pulse - capture - start - the wheels / tracks in the teeth, fell for 10-15 km, this requires training, coordination and, again, guidance when to turn it on. If you yawn, then the UAV will also direct the artillery / MLRS at the SAM position.

            MANPADS - not effective, the Turks operate with 2-3km. May and higher. Signatures of diesels almost do not. Plus, the presence of these MANPADS and people who can - in question.

            so I agree, they were not ready for modern methods of warfare, fucking shame. but it’s too early to draw hasty conclusions. with political will, you can change the situation at the front.
          2. Dog
            Dog 1 March 2020 13: 02 New
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            Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan
            And how many UAV strike turrets do you have in Turkey?

            Spit.
            Without receiving answers, and dystrophan himself will begin to think of himself as a Schwarzenegger.
            1. Oquzyurd 1 March 2020 14: 25 New
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              Turkey has 60 Anka-S and Bayraktar TV-2 drones, and in addition 70-80 additional reconnaissance UAVs from these brands. I note that these UAVs have already been accepted by the Turkish Armed Forces. There are dozens more that are undergoing tests before acceptance . UAV production plants produce 4 units of Anka-S and 6 units of Bayraktar TV-2 per month. That is, they are capable of producing 48 units per year. Anka-S, and 72 pcs. Bayraktar TV-2.
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                much less! on 10-12 Anka and Bayraktar TV-2, and they are disposed of daily in Libya and Syria. Enough for two weeks of war. The rest is junk
                1. Oquzyurd 1 March 2020 17: 30 New
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                  Where did you get this info? In 2017, there were 38 of these Bayrktars in the inventory of Turkish aircraft.
                  1. ABM
                    ABM 1 March 2020 18: 00 New
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                    most of Bayrktar are reconnaissance. Over Syria, in total, no more than ten are used, however, the data are not accurate
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                Quote: Oquzyurd
                60 drone drone Anka-S

                It seems like less than two dozen.
                In any case, already 3 pieces less. One a day. For a long time, the UAVs did not have enough UAVs.
                And this despite the weakness of the air defense of their opponents.

                Quote: Oquzyurd
                year they are able to produce 48 pcs

                It seems like - only 3 pieces.
                Well, even if all 60 are 2 months of fighting, when you are not particularly shot. The rest of the year, how will they work? Truce ask for new production?
                1. Oquzyurd 1 March 2020 18: 35 New
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                  "60 shock drones Anka-S and Bayraktar TV-2"
                  "There are dozens more that are being tested before acceptance of the aircraft."
                  "UAV manufacturing plants produce 4 units of Anka-S and 6 units of Bayraktar TV-2 per month."
                  That is, they have dozens of ready-made ones. at the stage of receiving aircraft, + a minimum of 10 pieces of new produce per month.
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                    I don’t understand - did you come up with these “quotes”? If not - nada give a link to sources.
                    1. Oquzyurd 1 March 2020 21: 39 New
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                      Inventory for 19.04.2018/XNUMX/XNUMX.
                      Bayraktar TB (Taktik Blok) 2
                      Envanterdeki sayı: 46 Adet (quantity 46 pcs)
                      Bu sayının 34 tanesi (23'ü SİHA) TSK tarafından kullanılmaktadır. (34 units are Sun, 23 of them are combat)
                      The remaining 12 pcs:
                      Jandarma 6 adet (6 units in the gendarmerie)
                      Emniyet 6 adet (police 6 pcs scout)
                      https://www.sabah.com.tr/galeri/ekonomi/iste-tsknin-iha-envanteri
                      As I could, so did the translation. I note that this is only for Bayraktar TB2, without Anki-S.
      3. Grits 1 March 2020 11: 15 New
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        Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan
        But the reality, the troops of Syria, and Russia, were buried in holes

        I also have no reason not to trust Poddubny, a military commander who has passed more than one hot spot. Everything is extremely brief and honest. One can see him tempting to say so - I have not seen such a shame of our army and aviation.
      4. Paranoid50 1 March 2020 11: 47 New
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        Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan
        Shame and shame.

        However, the hysteria becomes permanent - they went the second day. laughing
        1. Ratmir_Ryazan 1 March 2020 12: 08 New
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          However, the hysteria becomes permanent - they went the second day. laughing


          This is not a hysteria, it is a pain from the weakness of our army against the inferior in size and budget, but it turned out to be a more advanced Turkish army.
    2. anjey 1 March 2020 09: 47 New
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      We believe in the wisdom and resilience of GDP and General Staff of the Ministry of Defense ....
      1. Leshy1975 1 March 2020 10: 21 New
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        We believe in the wisdom and resilience of GDP and General Staff of the Ministry of Defense ....

        We will be! To the last cartridge, which of course we leave for ourselves! And when we use it up, without letting our enemies live, then Mr. Lavrov, flying to his daughter in the USA, will utter his catch phrase. But already in our address.

        PS I am writing from the trench on the boot of a murdered comrade.
        PPS If it’s suddenly not subtle humor for you (like mine is black), then I’m already a schiza.
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          You know, hope dies last laughing
          1. Leshy1975 1 March 2020 10: 37 New
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            Quote: anjey
            You know, hope dies last laughing

            Plus to you, for inexhaustible optimism and humor. hi From Nadezhda, you too will surely be a plus, will live for some more.
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          And when we use it up, without letting our enemies live, then Mr. Lavrov, flying to his daughter in the USA, will utter his catch phrase. But already in our address.

          God ... respected AI, what are you talking about? Lavrov's daughter lives and works in Moscow. But about the "phrase in your address" you just noticed, over time, only make a mistake.
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            Quote: SaltY
            Quote: Leshy1975
            And when we use it up, without letting our enemies live, then Mr. Lavrov, flying to his daughter in the USA, will utter his catch phrase. But already in our address.

            God ... respected AI, what are you talking about? Lavrov's daughter lives and works in Moscow. But about the "phrase in your address" you just noticed, over time, only make a mistake.

            Regarding the daughter of Lavrov (source zen.yandex.ru): Catherine was born in the United States and lived there almost all her life. Surely someone will immediately remember that at that time Sergey Lavrov was an ambassador overseas, but the young girl did not leave with her parents back to Moscow.
            On the contrary, she preferred to get an education in America, or rather, she graduated from Columbia University in New York, where she lived. Because of which, one can not be surprised that Ekaterina Vinokurova currently has dual citizenship. Moreover, she got married in Moscow, although she still works for a London company.

            So I have little doubt where Lavrov’s daughter will be when the Motherland calls her. Most likely, her country will be the country where she grew up, studied, where she has friends of youth, and whose habits and customs she absorbed in her youth.

            PS And let's return to the question about whom Lavrov’s phrase really was, as agreed with you yesterday, a little later, at the end of the Turkish operation in Idlib. Unless of course Erdogan will stop at one Idlib. hi
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              Quote: Leshy1975
              You should not be surprised that Ekaterina Vinokurova currently has dual citizenship

              US citizenship upon her birth in the USA. At that time, Lavrov was a permanent representative to the UN.

              Quote: Leshy1975
              I have little doubt where Lavrov’s daughter will be

              Too long chain of assumptions to say that "Lavrov will fly to the United States." You are Intellect, and you probably understand that.

              Quote: Leshy1975
              And we will return to the question about whom Lavrov’s phrase really was, as agreed with you yesterday, a little later, at the end of the Turkish operation in Idlib

              I do not suffer from sclerosis yet, but my “phrase about phrase” refers specifically to what you wrote today.
    3. onix757 1 March 2020 09: 47 New
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      The entire Russian-language segment of the Internet in unison yells "Russia has leaked Syria!" and extols the virtual military muscle of Erdogan the father.

      Your conclusion would indeed be justified, provided that the Russian Federation had a group capable of opposing the Turkish Armed Forces. But such on the horizon is not observed. A few dozen planes and a couple of boats do not affect the alignment of the TVD
      1. Ratmir_Ryazan 1 March 2020 10: 02 New
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        Your conclusion would indeed be justified, provided that the Russian Federation had a group capable of opposing the Turkish Armed Forces.


        Remarkably justification))) Turkey has a larger group))) Previously, this did not stop fighting and winning, but now what has become an excuse ?!

        Turkey has about 10 pieces of these Anka-S UAVs and all of our S-400, S-300, Buki, Carapace, AWACS Su-30/34/35 fighters and electronic warfare systems can not do anything with them in the sky of Syria, which we protect. Turkish UAVs drove the Syrian army into holes.

        At that pace, militants will soon storm Damascus, and ours will hurry to flee, whoever has time from Turtus and Hmeimim.

        In the leadership of our country and the army that all at once lost their minds and conscience ?!

        This is just shame and shame and there is nothing to justify here !!!

        A lot of money has been ditched to the military-industrial complex, and in fact we have neither strike UAVs nor means to combat them.
        1. onix757 1 March 2020 10: 06 New
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          Perhaps I agree with you
        2. Serval 1 March 2020 10: 32 New
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          // but in fact we have no strike UAVs //
          But in Syria they are not needed. Our aviation has complete air superiority.
          Therefore, strikes can be struck with SUSHKami (which is much more effective than shock UAVs).
          1. Grits 1 March 2020 11: 19 New
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            Quote: SerVal
            Our aviation has complete air superiority.

            The answer is hysterical laughter and a bunch of videos of who controls what.
            1. Serval 1 March 2020 11: 39 New
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              a bunch of videos

              Thank you, I have already looked.
              A typical picture of artillery strikes, adjusted by UAVs.
              1. Grits 1 March 2020 12: 09 New
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                Quote: SerVal
                Thank you, I have already looked.
                A typical picture of artillery strikes, adjusted by UAVs.

                Exactly. These UAVs fly in their apartment. They are there now the kings of the air, and not our vaunted VKS
          2. x.andvlad 1 March 2020 11: 25 New
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            Yah! You say nonsense, dear. UAVs in this case are much more effective in the complete absence of risks for pilots.
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIy309bzR9U&t=306s
        3. igorj 51 1 March 2020 11: 42 New
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          But Russia has hypersonic missiles that no one has ..
          PSIt was an irony if someone did not understand.
      2. anjey 1 March 2020 10: 28 New
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        And the strategic forces of our Army no longer count? Black Sea Fleet with calibers from the World Cup, Tu -160 and Tu -95 with X-101/102, nuclear submarines and submarines ??? Satellite-space grouping?
        1. Alexey Sommer 1 March 2020 10: 44 New
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          And the strategic forces of our Army no longer count?

          What good is it if we don’t use it?
        2. Grits 1 March 2020 11: 23 New
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          Quote: anjey
          And the strategic forces of our Army no longer count? Black Sea Fleet with calibers from the World Cup, Tu -160 and Tu -95 with X-101/102, nuclear submarines and submarines ???

          We can fully use all this wealth in a frank clash with the Turks. And most likely, we’ll completely roll them up. But at the moment we can do nothing with a dozen UAVs and several art batteries. I am ashamed to admit, but we have already lost this battle against such a set of weapons. And Russia's reputation losses at the international level, especially in the Middle East will be even greater. Five years of successful fight against terrorism - down the drain in five days of fighting. A disgrace.
          1. Serval 1 March 2020 11: 40 New
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            but we already lost this battle

            Everything is lost?
      3. Dog
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        Quote: onix757
        But such on the horizon is not observed

        You are not looking there. Turn north
    4. Vol4ara 1 March 2020 10: 07 New
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      Quote: Lord of the Sith

      But no.
      The entire Russian-language segment of the Internet in unison yells "Russia has leaked Syria!" and extols the virtual military muscle of Erdogan the father.


      https://syria.liveuamap.com/ru
      Map of hostilities, events, links to information sources.
      This is clearly more informative than the oak-tree cheers of telegram patriotism.
    5. dorz 1 March 2020 10: 29 New
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      A recent Poddubny comment from the scene, essentially:

      Fierce fighting continues in the area of ​​Seraciba. Turkey uses electronic warfare systems to suppress UAVs in the zone, actively uses MLRS and artillery. Uses 155 mm high-precision art. system. CAA fighters suffer losses in manpower and equipment. On the front line are the Turkish MTR groups. Under fire all the tactical formations 5 DShK, 76 brigade, other units. 25 Sukhel brigade continues to battle from south to north.

      Despite all the efforts of the Turkish General Staff, the advisers and militants of the KhTS, a turning point was not provided. The main problem of the SAA is a catastrophic unwillingness to dig trenches and dugouts. And now a little more emotional. Turkish specialists are not seven spans in the forehead, act on textbooks. Sometimes extremely clumsy and frankly unprofessional. React slowly, even slower than APU for example. In short, such a beautifully packaged army hasn’t fought for a long time.

      Syrian guys heroically endure artillery raids, they die, they are angry, but everyone looks at the shovel as a damned and even dangerous thing. The only thing they have enough strength for is to fill the shaft around the position. Which, as you know, does not save from art. They stand and perish, perish and stand. Sorry for the guys. And even commanders have nothing to do with it. Just such a feature ...

      Source: https: //t.me/epoddubny/2528
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        The main problem of the SAA is a catastrophic unwillingness to dig trenches and dugouts.


        Firstly, the trenches do not save from hitting from above with UAVs, and secondly, to make a dugout, you need time and materials, which simply do not exist in the offensive conditions.
      2. voyaka uh 1 March 2020 11: 34 New
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        In the Middle East, the soil is rocky.
        The shovel will break right away. They dig only hoes, pickaxes.
        And effectively - with bulldozers. A military bulldozer is equal in value to a tank. Remember how the Americans scoffed at the forum that they bombed the “next igilov bulldozer”? And the Americans knew what they were doing.
    6. ochakow703 1 March 2020 11: 07 New
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      All this is understandable. But then a tough question for our magazines! Where is the information !? Accurate, detailed, reliable and timely !? It is already impossible to turn on the zombie, as it will light up, so an attack of vomiting ... but there is no normal information.
    7. Aleksandr21 1 March 2020 11: 25 New
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      ....But no.
      The entire Russian-language segment of the Internet in unison yells "Russia has leaked Syria!" and extols the virtual military muscle of Erdogan the father.



      Now is the age of technology, the benefit of the Internet allows you to monitor the situation in almost real time. And when people see a pause after Erdogan’s call - GDP, and what losses have CAA suffered during these days, people naturally ask what happens? And the fact that you cited above is not a balanced assessment, but propaganda aimed at ridiculing the enemy and belittling his merits, isn’t that so? The CAA’s losses are serious, they simply don’t be voiced as it will strike the morale of the Syrians, but we see how the Turkish Armed Forces are working, and God forbid that the Syrians could recover from the Turkish strikes and continue the offensive and recapture key positions, I hope that our conclusions have been reached from the events of recent days and will help the Syrians restore equipment and work on Syrian air defense. Now, I don’t see any reason for optimism .... but I hope that this is temporary.
    8. Kapral Alphych 1 March 2020 11: 43 New
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      I agree, but there is one "but." This is an information war. If this "dominance" wins, then our propagandists have something to think about. Plus, take a look at the Turkish Sultan and his entourage, what they show "fighting" enthusiasm, how to pump up the population, raising its "fighting spirit"! And we have, besides a couple of screen and sofa “experts,” there is no one to listen to! If only the Supreme Commander spoke on the television and said - "Do not piss, everything is under control! Victory will be ours, the enemy will be defeated." All. Already half of this whining would come to naught.
    9. Paranoid50 1 March 2020 11: 53 New
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      Quote: Lord of the Sith
      yells "Russia leaked Syria!"

      Sergey, hi , I’m sure you are aware that some are still screaming "Russia has leaked the Donbass!" yes So this is the norm. - the whole local camarilla bathes in its own spray for the second day. fellow
      And by the way, in confirmation:
      Quote: Gardamir
      leaked, not leaked. Remember Donbass.
      This individual is very funny.
    10. saigon 1 March 2020 13: 01 New
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      Somehow during that time a whole jamb appeared of a mass of newly-born ananitics of Sori analysts, registered a couple of three days ago on the site, however, very loud and puffy.
      Very interesting.
  • Andobor 1 March 2020 09: 33 New
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    Quote: Vol4ara
    Translate someone into Russian.

    The Turks are not keen on deci - the internal disassembly is even tougher than in the United States.
    1. Vol4ara 1 March 2020 10: 08 New
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      Quote: Andobor
      Quote: Vol4ara
      Translate someone into Russian.

      The Turks are not keen on deci - the internal disassembly is even tougher than in the United States.

      And you can’t say by Erdogan’s ratings ... Regular Wishlist
  • svp67 1 March 2020 12: 23 New
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    Translate someone into Russian.

    Erdogan sends "unreliable parts" to this "meat grinder" so that they would prove their allegiance to the Sultan there ...
  • Victor_B 1 March 2020 09: 15 New
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    As ours drove theirs, because there was no reason to cling really, we rolled back and forth ... For the same reason.
    Probably...
    1. bessmertniy 1 March 2020 09: 33 New
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      Well, let's hope that they catch on and stop both the militants and the Turks. Although, of course, the situation is awful.
  • Dr. Sorge 1 March 2020 09: 18 New
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    Yes, as the Turks really began to fight, it seems that the previous victories on the barmalei have been canceled. Tomatoes however.
    1. Mitroha 1 March 2020 09: 23 New
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      Excuse me, what is this stream of consciousness? Sunday morning? Translate into Russian please
      1. Dr. Sorge 1 March 2020 17: 58 New
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        Transfer.
        Turkey starts and wins.
        Russia's declaration of victory over the barmalei is a farce.
        Tomatoes decide politics.
        So understandable? :)
        1. Salty 1 March 2020 18: 19 New
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          Quote: Dr. Sorge
          Transfer

          The local daughter of the officer (I saw such people, they were from the Crimea then) is trying to explain to the people that #

          It turns out badly at the daughter, the daughter is worried.

          Quote: Dr. Sorge
          Tomatoes decide politics

          Michael, do you have thoughts other than tomatoes, or where?
  • Dave36 1 March 2020 09: 19 New
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    Russia as an ally is nothing. Twists the fifth point. A series of betrayals surprised, now it is predicted. The trouble of Assad is that he believed ..
    1. Mitroha 1 March 2020 09: 24 New
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      Exactly, in your opinion, you need to focus on the United States in this matter, so the allies are allies. You ask the Kurds, they will confirm
      1. Dave36 1 March 2020 09: 29 New
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        Yes, where are the Kurds? If you fit in, solve the question - and ours and yours, Ay, they are not there ... That's right, it’s vital for the Turks to do what they do, and we’re stupid to cut money, tomatoes, gas (burn in hell), but tourism ... So all the authority is down the drain. Played - with minimal support from the Turks - in a month will roll back to Damascus.
        1. Mitroha 1 March 2020 09: 39 New
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          Everyone in Syria is solving their problems, including Russia. We came there to destroy the terrorists, and not to fight with countries solving their issues. In this case, help from the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, political decisions, etc. This is the east, there are so many old claims to each other, there will not be enough war to fight with all. Therefore, we beat the terrorists, the rest is maximally political decisions.
          1. Gardamir 1 March 2020 09: 58 New
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            We came there to destroy the terrorists, and not to fight with countries solving their issues.
            I think so, personally, you did not go anywhere. There are two options, either you are naive and believe in someone else’s lie, or you lie yourself. Bourgeois Russia came to Syria with oil and gas. But the capitalist government still breeds citizens with pro-Soviet terminology.
            And lately it’s not noticeable, something to beat the terrorists.
            1. Mitroha 1 March 2020 10: 41 New
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              You, I think, also do not answer from the trench. Do you think you know why Russia came to Syria, but do I need to keep my opinion to myself?
              1. Gardamir 1 March 2020 11: 10 New
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                No, why, you have the right to express your opinion.
                I remember how, after speaking at the UN, Putin met with Obama. The next day, Assad’s request was announced.
          2. Alexey Sommer 1 March 2020 10: 48 New
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            Quote: Mitroha
            We came there to destroy the terrorists, and not to fight with countries solving their issues.

            Yes hore already nonsense to write.
            Well, evil is not enough.
            1. Salty 1 March 2020 18: 22 New
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              Quote: Alexey Sommer
              Yes hore already nonsense to write

              Right Harae. Start with yourself.

              Quote: Alexey Sommer
              Well, evil is not enough

              Enough is enough for you, and even good is enough ...

              Do not want the bad - the good will be worse
      2. Grits 1 March 2020 11: 29 New
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        Quote: Mitroha
        You ask the Kurds, they will confirm

        Now the Syrians will also confirm that the Russians can also betray, without providing assistance, no worse than the Americans. There was already infa that the Syrians and Hezbollah wrote on the vac, supposedly the Russians betrayed us, they left us alone.
      3. Dr. Sorge 1 March 2020 18: 00 New
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        If you started a war, you need to bring the matter to victory. This is what we are writing about. You do not like it, of course. But politicians surrender the conquered. Like in the Donbas.
    2. Black_Vatnik 1 March 2020 09: 26 New
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      Again, "Putin is leaking Syria?". Over the past 5 years, this is the tenth time that Putin has betrayed Assad)
      The trouble is Assad, that he believed Putin? I would ignore this statement if it was written from an account that was created today or yesterday. Are you up to date on Assad’s position for September 2015? Vkursa, how much did his regime count several weeks before the Russian aerospace forces officially sided with Syria?
      1. freddyk 1 March 2020 09: 45 New
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        Quote: Black_Jacket
        Again, "Putin is leaking Syria?". Over the past 5 years, this is the tenth time that Putin has betrayed Assad)
        The trouble is Assad, that he believed Putin? I would ignore this statement if it was written from an account that was created today or yesterday. Are you up to date on Assad’s position for September 2015? Vkursa, how much did his regime count several weeks before the Russian aerospace forces officially sided with Syria?

        Dear friend, time passes, everything changes. Circumstances may change at any time to disadvantageous for Russia. And in the modern world, everything is measured by profit. The concept of honor in bourgeois politics and business does not exist. So anything is possible. I would not be surprised at anything.
        1. Black_Vatnik 1 March 2020 09: 59 New
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          This is all wonderful, but is it possible at least some weighty and sound arguments to the thesis "Putin leaked Assad"?
          1. freddyk 1 March 2020 10: 36 New
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            Quote: Black_Jacket
            This is all wonderful, but is it possible at least some weighty and sound arguments to the thesis "Putin leaked Assad"?


            And I do not affirm this. At the moment, I think, there is an analysis of the situation. Everything will be done to save face. I mean, the possibility of a drain is not ruled out. In exchange for what other buns.
            The minus is not mine.
            1. Black_Vatnik 1 March 2020 10: 58 New
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              If you argue from this position, then generally it is impossible to exclude anything. But today, given the situation and immediate prospects, there are no significant prerequisites for the betrayal of Syria by official Russia.
              I’m not worried about the cons. I never put them myself if I don’t see open insults, but I don’t pay attention to others.
              1. Dr. Sorge 1 March 2020 18: 03 New
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                Strelkov wrote about everything that is happening now in 2015. And all, unfortunately, is coming true. It remains for the Turks to close the Bosphorus. Alas, not the military determines politics.
                1. Black_Vatnik 1 March 2020 18: 08 New
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                  And can I throw off the material, what did Strelkov say there? I will look with pleasure
            2. Grits 1 March 2020 11: 33 New
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              Quote: freddyk
              Everything will be done to save face

              Save face to whom?
              Just a few days ago, they spiritually wrote here that Erdogan needed to somehow save his face. It turned out that now it was necessary to somehow save Putin's face.
      2. onix757 1 March 2020 09: 52 New
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        Again, "Putin is leaking Syria?". Over the past 5 years, this is the tenth time that Putin has betrayed Assad)

        Styles for a long time. Even when they began to bargain with partners with subsequent admission to its territory. RF is an unreliable ally.
      3. Gardamir 1 March 2020 11: 01 New
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        Well, not the tenth, you do not have to stuff yourself a price. But three times officially announced full victory.
        As for leaked, not leaked. Remember Donbass.
    3. Volodin 1 March 2020 09: 29 New
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      Quote: Dave36
      Russia as an ally is nothing. Twists the fifth point. A series of betrayals surprised, now it is predicted. The trouble of Assad is that he believed ..

      Well, so many (you, too, apparently) are just waiting for Assad to “not believe”. For Assad, if not for Russia, he would have long been lying somewhere in the desert, in parts, as one politician known to you ...
      1. Baloo 1 March 2020 09: 51 New
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        Quote: Volodin
        For Assad, if not for Russia, he would have long been lying somewhere in the desert, in parts, as one politician known to you ...

        All is correct. The main idea of ​​komentov-Russia needs to take more decisive measures, this is a war not only for Syria. A curious figure sounded: there are more than 100 coffins with Russian tourists from Turkey, and during the same period, the period of the war in Syria, 87 Russian troops were killed. Although the media believe ... In any case, Syria should become Vietnam for the Turks, and not Afghanistan for the USSR.
      2. Dave36 1 March 2020 09: 56 New
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        Listen, let's just scream Hurray) You tell this to our relatives Assad us generally on the drum. Another dictator clinging to power.
      3. Grits 1 March 2020 11: 35 New
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        Quote: Volodin
        Well, so many (you, too, apparently) are just waiting for Assad to “not believe”. For Assad, if not for Russia, he would have long been lying somewhere in the desert, in parts, as one politician known to you ...

        All right. Only if they undertook to defend, then let’s finish it. And it turns out, they protected us from ISIS, but we won’t from Nusra. Because she is with the Turks, and we are very much afraid of the Turks.
    4. Lontus 1 March 2020 12: 21 New
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      Quote: Dave36
      Russia as an ally is nothing. Twists the fifth point. A series of betrayals surprised, now it is predicted. The trouble of Assad is that he believed ..

      not Russia, but a comprador of the Russian Federation, ruled by ethnic Russophobic mafia and transnational corporations, with a doll on display, using patriotic rhetoric to disguise, and hinting at a tricky plan, to deceive those who see discrepancies between words and words
  • Sergst 1 March 2020 09: 23 New
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    Quote: Vol4ara
    "In the meantime, Turkish Minute published remarkable material about the termination of military contracts with the two brothers of one of the Turkish soldiers killed recently in Syria (Akif Aqsadag)."

    Translate someone into Russian.

    This is the beginning of the thought, the main thing further, about the fact that in prisons there are at least 30 thousand supporters of the coup, and most of them are military. A significant enough part of the army ...
    1. Vol4ara 1 March 2020 09: 30 New
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      Quote: Sergst
      Quote: Vol4ara
      "In the meantime, Turkish Minute published remarkable material about the termination of military contracts with the two brothers of one of the Turkish soldiers killed recently in Syria (Akif Aqsadag)."

      Translate someone into Russian.

      This is the beginning of the thought, the main thing further, about the fact that in prisons there are at least 30 thousand supporters of the coup, and most of them are military. A significant enough part of the army ...

      Ahhh, with 10 times it finally dawned on what he wanted to say. Well, but I can say: Sit down, 2. How do they rent it?
    2. bessmertniy 1 March 2020 09: 31 New
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      It’s good that they are sitting, not at the front. These two, to whom the contract was broken, they have not recently overthrown Erdogan, but fought against Syria.
    3. Vol4ara 1 March 2020 10: 13 New
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      Quote: Sergst
      Quote: Vol4ara
      "In the meantime, Turkish Minute published remarkable material about the termination of military contracts with the two brothers of one of the Turkish soldiers killed recently in Syria (Akif Aqsadag)."

      Translate someone into Russian.

      This is the beginning of the thought, the main thing further, about the fact that in prisons there are at least 30 thousand supporters of the coup, and most of them are military. A significant enough part of the army ...

      And they are all in prisons ... The idea is clear, everyone who was against paid, others took a pencil
  • snifer 1 March 2020 09: 24 New
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    War with a technologically advanced enemy is not homeless on the ass with strategists to carry. I have two options for what is happening in Syria, the first is our departure to the side as Perdogan asked and the second is ignorance of what to do with drones. War is not cartoons to draw and say that our lasers will knock everyone down. In any case, this is a shame. Oh, I'm waiting for the cons)
    1. signifera 1 March 2020 09: 52 New
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      I think they know that I know, but there is nothing special to see, and there is no desire, since Turkey is more valuable than Syria in economic terms. Also, strength is not enough, to fight with NATO, there are few prospects. Now the SAA is even worse off than the militants when our VKS arrived. It seems to me a few more days and the SAA will have no equipment left, the Turks are knocking out entire units throughout the depth of the front, and the remnants of the infantry will begin to recede to the borders where the Turks decide to stop, just as lucky. Now they will write to me that all this is a fake, only the losses are already and the CAA confirms. It’s very disappointing for the prestige of the country, if they could have landed UAVs without entering into a tough confrontation, this would have been enough for the Syrians, otherwise they are praised in the news. And then no country respects or loves us.
      1. Vol4ara 1 March 2020 10: 14 New
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        Quote: Signifer
        I think they know that I know, but there is nothing special to see, and there is no desire, since Turkey is more valuable than Syria in economic terms. Also, strength is not enough, to fight with NATO, there are few prospects. Now the SAA is even worse off than the militants when our VKS arrived. It seems to me a few more days and the SAA will have no equipment left, the Turks are knocking out entire units throughout the depth of the front, and the remnants of the infantry will begin to recede to the borders where the Turks decide to stop, just as lucky. Now they will write to me that all this is a fake, only the losses are already and the CAA confirms. It’s very disappointing for the prestige of the country, if they could have landed UAVs without entering into a tough confrontation, this would have been enough for the Syrians, otherwise they are praised in the news. And then no country respects or loves us.

        What is your understanding of landing a UAV?
        1. Alexey Sommer 1 March 2020 10: 51 New
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          Quote: Vol4ara
          What is your understanding of landing a UAV?

          This means knocking them down, or chopping off communications with electronic warfare.
          What does it mean to you?
          1. Vol4ara 1 March 2020 11: 08 New
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            Quote: Alexey Sommer
            Quote: Vol4ara
            What is your understanding of landing a UAV?

            This means knocking them down, or chopping off communications with electronic warfare.
            What does it mean to you?

            Some especially naive believe that they take control of the UAV and put them on the asphalt like 2 fingers
            1. Alexey Sommer 1 March 2020 11: 09 New
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              Quote: Vol4ara
              Some especially naive believe that they take control of the UAV and put them on the asphalt like 2 fingers

              So they told us so when they told about Khmeimim. )
              Lies .. Nauseous already.
            2. Guru 1 March 2020 13: 01 New
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              Iranians plant like two fingers, and they have the most impressive collection of both shot down and planted. At the same time, they planted them with the help of our specialists. There is only one conclusion. Our people do not want to plant or shoot down.
              1. svp67 1 March 2020 13: 04 New
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                Quote: Guru
                One conclusion Ours do not want to plant or shoot down.

                Shot down ... not long ago. At first, there were reports from the militants that they had either shot down either Su-22 or Su-24, then they called it L-39, now it turns out that the Turkish UAV was "dropped from the sky" ...

                There is a video ... their eagle soars beautifully
                https://rusvesna.su/news/1583055060
                1. Oquzyurd 1 March 2020 14: 49 New
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                  If you shoot down 5-10 pieces, this is also not a solution. Since they are without a pilot, there is no fear of losing people, and there are many, others will come.
                  Turkey has 60 Anka-S and Bayraktar TV-2 drones, and in addition 70-80 additional reconnaissance UAVs from these brands. I note that these UAVs have already been accepted by the Turkish Armed Forces. There are dozens more that are undergoing tests before acceptance . UAV production plants produce 4 units of Anka-S and 6 units of Bayraktar TV-2 per month. That is, they are capable of producing 48 units per year. Anka-S, and 72 pcs. Bayraktar TV-2.
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                    If you shoot down 5-10 pieces, this is also not a solution. Since they are without a pilot, there is no fear of losing people, and there are many, others will come.

                    Yes there is ... If they have already lost over 10 in Syria and Libya this week, then this is already a lot
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                      In Libya, 3 pcs were lost, in Syria 2 pcs. Even 10 is not much, given their park and the rate of replenishment. Moreover, a large version of Anki-S, called Aksungur, has already gone into the series, and will begin in the second half of this year to let in a large shock UAV, Akinci.
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                        Even 10 is not much, given their park and the rate of replenishment.

                        This is taking into account the fact that normal air defense was not yet taken for their thinning. And if you take it? Something seems to me that they don’t have enough opportunities to make up for losses
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                        Perhaps so. But, the UAV fleet is very large, there are a lot of manufactured and waiting for the acceptance of aircraft, and the plants stamp day and night.
                        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCuU8Tr0glM
                        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8B1OwMECiA
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                        But, the UAV fleet is very large,

                        That's just we all "do not moo do not calve"
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    And then no country respects or loves us.

    We once again smeared ourselves with shit with our inaction. Now all will only spit in our direction and not to penny.
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    I have two options for what is happening in Syria, the first is our departure to the side as Perdogan asked and the second is ignorance of what to do with drones. War is not cartoons to draw and say that our lasers will knock everyone down.

    Both options seem to have merged together. Plus the cowardice of our leadership. The next Russian-Turkish war we unconditionally lost, not even starting.
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    1. Alexey Sommer 1 March 2020 10: 52 New
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      Exactly! Thanks.
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      It’s just that it’s not profitable to protect Assad now, it’s difficult when you have all the partners, you need to choose the more useful.

      The first caricatures went. Or else it will be ... Shame we will grab ourselves above the roof.
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        first caricatures.

        This cartoon - button accordion.
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        grabbing above the roof.

        It seems that over the weekend most of the "locals" just picked up above the roof. fellow drinks
  • Awaz 1 March 2020 09: 43 New
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    just amazing things our military in Syria do. I understand that no one expected the Turks to have UAVs and with their help they can easily and easily uncover Syrian columns and positions. But this does not continue for the first day, and no opposition has been taken. How much patience you can have with ordinary fighters on the front lines. Assad doesn’t have much mob potential, and if such garbage continues, the remaining ones will scatter.
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    2. Donkey driver 1 March 2020 09: 45 New
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      So what? Should Russia attack regular Turks?
      1. Dave36 1 March 2020 09: 59 New
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        No, of course, accept and forgive. And if you’re not ready to fight? What is there to do? That's right, make money as much as possible ..
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          And what are you going to attack? How many Russian soldiers are ready to send for slaughter? Do you want an unidentified aircraft gouging the Turks, an unidentified rocket and barrel artillery unwinding Khmeimim in response?
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            So that's the whole point - having made our military targets, why did you think when you entered? That's right, oil smuggled burn ... I absolutely agree with you, not one soldier, and there is nothing to do ...
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              So that's the whole point - having made our military targets, why did you think when you entered? That's right, oil smuggled burn ... I absolutely agree with you, not one soldier, and there is nothing to do ...

              I try not to get into such emotional topics, but I read your comments with undisguised curiosity. Do you think that Russia has no interests in Syria? And she, therefore, should not defend them? And now it’s not about noodles about terrorists, or about oil that you wrote about (don’t you remind, and then you started burning it with caravans?) I do not want to offend you in any case, but I highly recommend opening a world map if you have eyesight everything is in order, then you don’t have to explain anything. I just do not understand, and never, in fact, did not understand where people come from who have to talk about what the North and South, East and West, Day and Night are. This is a rhetorical question, do not answer it. Look out the window - do you live within the Moscow principality? Not? Strange, apparently the ancestors were not so scrupulous and vulnerable.
              PS Two full bases in the Mediterranean, I will tell you. It is strange that no one sees this, all about some kind of terrorists, some kind of Turkey, some kind of plums of some kind of regimes ..... This is all such dust that in the historical perspective it does not play any significance. Yes, even within six months - this does not play any role. There is a goal, they are achieving it. 4 days ago, the Turks were hinted that horses should be reserved. And then we look at the development of events. Nothing, in principle, has changed, everyone is shooting at each other, for 10 years now there have been military operations in Syria, changes 0. What is so nervous about sitting on sofas in recent days is not entirely clear.
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        So what? Should Russia attack regular Turks?

        First you need to acquire real power and not capricious. The USSR did not trade interests in the allied countries and, as a result, the integrity of prosperous Syria.
        1. Donkey driver 1 March 2020 10: 05 New
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          So what am I talking about. Talking about a confrontation with the Turks without having anything to do this except a couple of sides, this is just fun.
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            So what am I talking about. Talking about a confrontation with the Turks without having anything to do this except a couple of sides, this is just fun.

            Then what are we doing there?
      3. Awaz 1 March 2020 11: 18 New
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        Even here on the forum, every second expert talks about the indestructible and unique air defense in the Russian Federation (in principle, and I agree) that can destroy or land any air fleet, but in reality, what do we see? Jews both bombed and bombed, the Turks also began to use UAVs with impunity and actually cause serious damage to CAA.
        I understand that killing Jews over Lebanon is not kosher, but Turkish drones had to land for a long time. And the conclusion begs: either nothing, or Faberge bench press ...
    3. donavi49 1 March 2020 09: 54 New
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      Well, what to do?

      MiGi29 - Assad most likely fell apart. Their 4 years no one saw in the air. Probably, the service was reduced in favor of priority programs. And again, you can fight UAVs only with a constant presence in the area, which even in the first year for the old Syrian MiGs would be a finite time task.

      MiGi-21/23 fly, but they are almost useless against UAVs. Because you need clear guidance almost to visual detection.

      EW who plant all this tales. Everything is complicated there. It is possible to crap / complicate the work - but really the EW problem cannot be solved.

      Air defense. This is dangerous. Close completely even a small area from small targets is difficult. We'll have to substitute the same Armor, Buki for artillery and MLRS attacks. Moreover, if you shine, then I can bet that it will immediately arrive at the source because of the PRR ribbon. For distances allow. Turn on the pulse - capture - start - the wheels / tracks in the teeth, fell for 10-15 km, this requires training, coordination and, again, guidance when to turn it on. If you yawn, then the UAV will also direct the artillery / MLRS at the SAM position.

      MANPADS - not effective, the Turks operate with 2-3km. May and higher. Signatures of diesels almost do not. Plus, the presence of these MANPADS and people who can - in question.
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        Air defense. This is dangerous. Close completely even a small area from small targets is difficult. We'll have to substitute the same Armor, Buki for artillery and MLRS attacks. Moreover, if you shine, then I can bet that it will immediately arrive at the source because of the PRR ribbon.

        Not so shock UAVs and small smile
        Tighten the "Shell" and everything will be fine. They can work on the optical channel if that. Another question is who will guard the objects from the attacks of God's chosen ones, but they can temporarily strain ours, if everything is really bad there and you have to plug holes. The main thing is that the Syrians would not pull them along the front line, but in groups, so that they could interact and cover each other.
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        Quote: donavi49
        Air defense. This is dangerous. Close completely even a small area from small targets is difficult. We'll have to substitute the same Armor, Buki for artillery and MLRS attacks. Moreover, if you shine, then I can bet that it will immediately arrive at the source because of the PRR ribbon. For distances allow. Turn on the pulse - capture - start - the wheels / tracks in the teeth, fell for 10-15 km, this requires training, coordination and, again, guidance when to turn it on. If you yawn, then the UAV will also direct the artillery / MLRS at the SAM position.

        The most accurate comment! First you must immediately destroy the Turkish artillery, firing high-precision ammunition, such as our Krasnopol, missile launchers, otherwise you wouldn’t deploy air defense systems - Pantsir-S1 and Buk-M1. And then destroy the corrective and shock drones. However, such actions contradict the arrangements of V.V. Putin and Erdogan - that’s basically what the question is ... Therefore, their meeting is necessary. The Turks again break the agreement and are unpredictable in their actions, as in the situation with the Su-24 ...
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          However, such actions contradict the arrangements of V.V. Putin and Erdogan - that’s basically what the question is ... Therefore, their meeting is necessary. The Turks again break the agreement and are unpredictable in their actions, as in the situation with the Su-24 ...


          The saddest thing is that before the talks another 4-5 days and even if after them the GDP decides to help the Syrian army to suppress the Turkish, can the Syrian armed forces? Given that they already suffer huge losses in personnel, and okay, there’s equipment (you can bring it in, but this is again time-time), but alas, people will not be returned. If the situation with huge losses continues, then I doubt that the Syrians will be able to turn the tide in the future, even with our help, since there will be no people.
      3. Alexey Sommer 1 March 2020 10: 58 New
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        Air defense. This is dangerous.

        Oh, enough already!)
        Then we shoot down all the UAVs when approaching Khmeimi, then ...
        Oh .. Sorry we are crap ...
        Well, shame is simple.
        I want to spit. And that Edik speaks out, but ours is silent, like a fish on ice?
        Shame again, as in August 1991.
        I am ashamed of ...
        1. donavi49 1 March 2020 11: 11 New
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          Well, the level is different:
          assembled from components with Ali with a total price of 500-900 dollars. They collect, on the principle, to fly to the GPS part of the route, and then to the ANN fly to Khmeimim and fall there with bombs, as Allah puts.

          against normal UAVs with shock functions, and most importantly with an army data transmission structure.

          If the broads after the UAV would have poured another T-122 / Firtin batteries, adjusting the fire, then at least somehow it can be compared. Plus, protecting one a / b is one task. To protect even 50km in front and 10km in depth (and strikes are carried out at 25-35km in depth - the same headquarters where two RG brigades were killed) - this is completely different.

          I am not writing that this is impossible. I write that the Syrians are in their current position, even without a ban from Khimki, this is extremely doubtful they can realize.
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            yes ... once again showed the world greatness and power .... the leadership of Russia - as impotent with ambitions, moreover passive ... minus ... poked you again, Russia FORWARD ... Shame ...

            Why minus you, right in the ban. wassat
      4. Awaz 1 March 2020 11: 31 New
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        if you wish, you can strain and shoot down several drones in order to calm arrogance. . And there it goes. But you need to do something. However, this is not noticed. And I understand that we do not see everything, but what we see is not very beautiful. Moreover, everything looks like another failure. Yes, I believe that somehow, somehow, all of a sudden, after protracted negotiations and concessions, we will agree with the Turks not to bomb SAA positions from drones or suddenly learn how to shoot down drones, but the military from the Russian Federation in Syria have a huge number of failures and miscalculations, here nowhere to go.
      5. Grits 1 March 2020 11: 48 New
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        Well, what to do?

        Continue to design Armata, Boomerangs, Poseidons, Vanguards, Storms and Avalanches for 15 - 20 years, test and argue for 10 years that it is better - AK and AEK and hope that another time it will carry over and the enemy will not have UAVs
    4. Naive 1 March 2020 10: 39 New
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      The most interesting thing will begin a bit later when the Turks crush the Syrians (Iranians and the rest of the Asad fighters) then you have to plug holes (Wagnerites) and SSOshniki and for them you have to come up with (beautiful stories) why they die there. Or shamefully carry out the evacuation and you need to start now. But then ALL is over! And everywhere ...
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        Sorry, but it looks like you're right.
        Syria is the last litmus test.
        Tired of believing and enduring.
      2. Grits 1 March 2020 11: 49 New
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        But then ALL is over! And everywhere ...

        Recent days have shown that this is the beginning of the end!
  • Chingachguk 1 March 2020 09: 56 New
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    That's all? Is the Russian epic ending in Syria?
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      Why? They will exchange the soldier, the parties will agree, each will receive what he needs, depending on his position and strength, on the television of each of the parties this will be presented as a grand victory over the enemy. And the Syrians, but those Syrians who consider them there in general, one hundred or a thousand more, one less.
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        Why? They will exchange the soldier, the parties will agree, each will receive what he needs, depending on his position and strength, on the television of each of the parties this will be presented as a grand victory over the enemy. And the Syrians, but those Syrians who consider them there in general, one hundred or a thousand more, one less.

        The most adequate that I read on this page hi
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      Well, this will mean that the Turkish hysterical got it? Then why did it start in general Russia?
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        Then why did it start in general Russia?
        When the bourgeois of Russia flooded for gas. Erdogan was quiet. Only all this confirms that Russia has no foreign policy.
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        Well, this will mean that the Turkish hysterical got it? Then why did it start in general Russia?

        But this is the right question. hi And they should have been asked in the Kremlin at the very beginning of the entry of troops into Syria. But unfortunately, I must and I can, these are different concepts. And not everyone who owes it is given. For such people there is HPP, they do not need the right questions. hi
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          I really hope that the GDP has a tricky plan, which we have no idea about. Actions in Syria have already become a place, watching which the whole world understands who is worth what. If the Turks succeeds, this will mean that you can’t turn to Russia for help, everything will stretch for years, death, destruction of the country, and as a result, the loss of territories and statehood anyway.
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      That's all? Is the Russian epic ending in Syria?

      What else is left to do? Turkey in a few days showed who is the boss and who got stronger coconuts. East respects only the strong. Now we just look like the last h-oh-mobs and balabol. And the Turks - strong and not cowards, like some. Now, the authority here will be not Russians, but Turks. You can reel fishing rods with shame.
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    Yes, where are the Kurds? If you fit in, solve the question - and ours and yours, Ay, they are not there ... That's right, it’s vital for the Turks to do what they do, and we’re stupid to cut money, tomatoes, gas (burn in hell), but tourism ... So all the authority is down the drain. Played - with minimal support from the Turks - in a month will roll back to Damascus.

    The month has already passed, Erdogan gave the month of February to Assad that he would leave Idlib, the month is over, but Assad did not roll back to Damascus, your forecast has not happened.
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      This is not a forecast, see. I don’t care where the Turks will be .. I don’t want a war with Turkey over Assad. But to comment on what is happening, why not.
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        I do not want a war with Turkey for Assad

        Imagine your corpse in the trenches that flies eat ..
        Do you still want war?
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      Well, not quite.

      Erdogan demands to return to the line of the Sochi agreements. Go to Murek, Abu Dukhtur, the heights of Hader, Aleppo.

      Probably, the solution is still intermediate. Stand in tight defense before negotiations. Only 5 days. If they resist, then this line can be slightly moved towards compromise. It is possible to make the M5 a demilitarized zone with Turkish + Turkish patrols. If you do not stand or agree, then oh.

      Decisive in this scenario will be these 5-6 days. Turks in general, can drive the broads under the guise of artifacts and UAVs. How much they beat off, then certainly it will be theirs.
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        Only 5 days.

        Five days?)
        what a naive Chukchi youth you are.
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      Quote: ALSur
      Quote: Dave36
      Yes, where are the Kurds? If you fit in, solve the question - and ours and yours, Ay, they are not there ... That's right, it’s vital for the Turks to do what they do, and we’re stupid to cut money, tomatoes, gas (burn in hell), but tourism ... So all the authority is down the drain. Played - with minimal support from the Turks - in a month will roll back to Damascus.

      The month has already passed, Erdogan gave the month of February to Assad that he would leave Idlib, the month is over, but Assad did not roll back to Damascus, your forecast has not happened.

      So roll back at such a pace
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    Well, you can already draw a line under the analytics of some VO citizens, whose Syrians "will beat the Turks with little blood on a foreign land"

    All of their analytics was collected and gleaned from the evening M. program. But in fact, the situation is, to put it mildly, alarming. If the SAA continues to lose ground and the Tukoman take over territories, then healthy people will have a logical question, what was it for 5 years and how such an embarrassment could happen if we all won already 5-6 times, which the President of the Russian Federation tirelessly stated.

    We? Is it somehow strange to write from Ukraine and say “we” about the Russian Armed Forces, don’t you? You write there, but don’t sign up.

    The President of Russia said that ISIS was destroyed as an education and its restoration is no longer possible, it is. No need to misinterpret other people's words, since you expose yourself as a liar and a fake. Actually, who you are on this forum.
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    The Moor has done his work; the Moor must leave. We are waiting for the approach of the regular troops of Iran. Kneading will be between the Turks and Syria with Iran. hi
  • Vitaly Tsymbal 1 March 2020 10: 19 New
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    Judging by the information from VO, the Turks will liberate all of Syria tomorrow or the day after tomorrow ... I present information on VO (if there was Internet in 1943) at the beginning of the German offensive in July 1943 on the Kursk Bulge !!!! True, as a result, the whole world knows that the Nazis got there in full and did not carry out more strategic offensive operations on the Eastern Front !!! So it’s too early to talk about these events with "defeatist" emotions ... I have big questions for our intelligence .... which should not only convey information in advance, but also indicate the main directions and tactics of strikes by the Turks and K. and to ours military analysts + Shoigu (!!!) as Minister of Defense - although for Shoigu it is closer to save from ruins than to not allow these ruins to be created .... war, although it’s an element, but an element created by people !!!!
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    This is a report / reports - not just like that .. specially shown, accented.
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    And where are the Armor, Buki, S-200, which, according to the Syrians, shoot down all Israeli rockets? Why don't they work on Turkish drones? Not a ride from under Damascus?
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    Your conclusion would indeed be justified, provided that the Russian Federation had a group capable of opposing the Turkish Armed Forces.


    Remarkably justification))) Turkey has a larger group))) Previously, this did not stop fighting and winning, but now what has become an excuse ?!

    Turkey has about 10 pieces of these Anka-S UAVs and all of our S-400, S-300, Buki, Carapace, AWACS Su-30/34/35 fighters and electronic warfare systems can not do anything with them in the sky of Syria, which we protect. Turkish UAVs drove the Syrian army into holes.

    At that pace, militants will soon storm Damascus, and ours will hurry to flee, whoever has time from Turtus and Hmeimim.

    In the leadership of our country and the army that all at once lost their minds and conscience ?!

    This is just shame and shame and there is nothing to justify here !!!

    A lot of money has been ditched to the military-industrial complex, and in fact we have neither strike UAVs nor means to combat them.

    Have you taken hostages from your relatives that you sit and every day, every day in different topics, scribble the same thing? You carry the same nonsense all the time.

    Adequate adult can not spread such things on the forum, picking out from somewhere.
    Either you are not an adult and not adequate, or an addict, or something happened.
    Well, yes, there are still stolen accounts.
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      Either you are not an adult and not adequate, or an addict, or something happened.

      Nothing special, just a tantrum - here through one the same hat. yes Especially delivers a host of freshmen - snotty extras, carrying heresy. However, such garbage here every time during the next "strain" - however, the swamp boils ... and the smell ... wassat
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    Where is our vaunted air defense and where is our much-publicized aviation? So Erdogan will sweep everyone out before the negotiations ... Minsk-2 again? Then what do we do there? If the Turks can push us so easily, then what can the stronger states do? It turns out we are phenomenally weak, or what? And there is nothing beyond our words except boasting? Are barbaleys with small arms (without the support of strong states) our limit? Or is it all called in our country a successful foreign policy or will they call KhPP again ???))) So far I see we have not outsmarted anyone except future pensioners.
    1. Alexandr Sharapov 1 March 2020 10: 45 New
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      Iran also got it tonight - the answer is just around the corner: Iran apparently also got tired of it: the following message was sent to the Turks: "The Turkish troops in Idlib are in the radius of destruction, and stop attacking our bases, we don’t want to harm you"
      A statement was made at the level of the Iranian embassy in Syria, that is, everything is serious.

      Among other things, it contains the following words: “We remind the Turkish people that his sons were within the reach of our weapons for a month and we can take revenge. The Iranian government informed Erdogan that we would hit the Turkish targets with all force if the Turkish army continued to bomb our units and the Syrian army ”
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        Quote: Alexandr Sharapov
        Among other things, it contains the following words: “We remind the Turkish people that his sons were within the reach of our weapons for a month and we can take revenge. The Iranian government informed Erdogan that we would hit the Turkish targets with all force if the Turkish army continued to bomb our units and the Syrian army ”

        At least someone scared Erdogan. Except from others...
        Iran understood from experience that it was necessary not to piss, but to respond harshly.
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      it's just all the show-offs) I want GDP back to the Big Eight, I thought to try on the halo of the peacemaker)
  • Swordserg 1 March 2020 10: 38 New
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    Has anyone heard of the events of the morning? They write that the Turks launched an offensive full-scale, raised aircraft, ours in response. Does anyone know something more?
    https://zen.yandex.ru/media/id/5dabad325d636200af1101a4/turciia-nachala-nastuplenie-rossiiskaia-aviaciia-podniata-v-vozduh-na-perehvat-tureckih-f16-5e5b0d2e6c066d276f57a7f0?&utm_campaign=dbr
    1. donavi49 1 March 2020 10: 44 New
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      These are tweet wars.

      Not tweeters:
      the women are planning to strike in the south this morning or afternoon (maybe they are already attacking) - under the umbrella of the Turkish art.
      The videoconferencing seemed to indicate the presence of several strikes in Idlib, but nothing serious (judging by the number, most likely the couple dropped a couple of bombs). These are the first non-tweeter hits of the videoconferencing in almost a day (yesterday the videoconferencing was resting).
      While there is no particular movement - it will be clear closer to dinner-evening.
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    3. Donkey driver 1 March 2020 10: 46 New
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      I would not be surprised. Victory needs to be developed with a swift offensive, especially when you surpass the enemy with everything you can, who is stronger than that and slippers, this is not a medieval duel and the concept of honor is not appropriate here, and to finish off a panicky and morally suppressed enemy with all weapons, all trunks and calibers, spreading panic and fear. And if you let yourself come to your senses, you will get a return on your teeth.
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        Well, so far the panic in the ranks of the CAA allies. Then I looked. Something sad. It’s understandable that I don’t want a war, but to retreat, surrender with such difficulty the liberated all the more so. But Nadrugan flew off the coils, he won’t be able to do anything.
        https://novayagazeta.ru/articles/2020/02/29/84107-oni-kosyat-nas-konkretno-18?utm_referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fzen.yandex.com&utm_campaign=dbr
  • ximkim 1 March 2020 10: 45 New
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    So .. in a week it will be seen about "having no taxes in the world of a multi-path and weapons"
  • Comrade Michael 1 March 2020 10: 46 New
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    Quote: Donkey driver
    Iran invited Turkey to discuss the situation in Idlib without Russia.

    If we have an absolutely cowardly foreign policy (proceeding from our internal industrial, economic and military and foreign policy weaknesses, then what can be discussed with our participation ???
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    Quote: Alexey G
    bragging about our air defense, for which there are 0 shot down targets
    And who puts the pros here ???
    That is, Powers and McCain we did not shoot down with our air defense? Turkish aviation in the person of their toys will receive a good lesson, Comrade Ravine! Everything is fine with range and epr! They simply did not expect that the Turks would openly fight with Assad, having forgotten that they should fight terrorism, and not help it! We were preparing an operation against the barmalei, and not against the Turks!
    I am sure that the Turks will learn a good lesson! Lyuley they will receive in full!

    This was obvious even to children, but for some reason it is not obvious to people who receive money for predicting the development of this situation?
  • Fishery 1 March 2020 10: 59 New
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    wanguyu in March, the batch will be more, quite serious)
  • 1970mk 1 March 2020 11: 07 New
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    It seems to me Khan Assad and Syria ..... Zassat Putin and the leadership ... a natural war ...
    The reality is that according to our, ally, type, the Turks are beating without hesitation .... on its territory .... It is time for us to crush the Turkish points. But ... silence .... and Assad simply does not have the strength to fight the Turks ... there is neither a mobilization resource ... nor technical .. This is not Syria before the civil war ...
    Everything is very bad. I'm afraid I’ve completely managed it ... we’ll lose control over everything ... and why then money was pumped into it is not clear ..
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      it’s just that you have to sit at home, the GDP will be kicked out from Syria and start to knead Ukraine again, because this is generally the last reason to take part in high politics and public relations.
  • ochakow703 1 March 2020 11: 14 New
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    Once again I wonder. We in Syria today for whom? We are working on Erdogashkin’s cookies in the form of a pipe and a power station, but, I forgot, we still want to add S-400 to him. Therefore, our contingent is keeping quiet. We feel sorry for our peasants, they are not guilty of the situation, they just had problems at the top of the Faberge fortress, or someone’s money was covered with a copper basin and promised not to return, and there are still a bunch of offspring of bureaucratic science granite. Then they will come and begin to work for the good of the Fatherland.
  • Comrade Michael 1 March 2020 11: 15 New
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    And this all happens quite naturally. All manipulations instead of a fight are, of course, a weapon of a weak or weak position. We are phenomenally weak. They are economically interested in complete unprincipled trade with any, even hostile, state. We were taxed from all sides economically, so we even cling to Turkey and Saudi Arabia. All this is the result of the 90s and whipping baclush, the last 20 years. We have no foreign policy, no allies, no international bodies and courts on our side. Again, external policy is based on economic and military power (we have neither one nor the other). Straits in the hands of hostile states. There is practically no fleet (only for nuclear attack and coastal) How can allies be supported overseas without a fleet? Almost nothing ... (as of now). We don’t even have political will (since economically weak and elites are tightly bound to the hostile west). Our bet is on MTR, strategic nuclear forces, reconnaissance and air defense. But everyone understands that we won’t win big MTR companies, and try not to finish up the last strike of the strategic nuclear forces (and also understand that we will hit them as a last resort). Re-equipment, I think more of these areas concerns, and the rest, mainly for parades and propaganda among the poorly educated public .... You may not agree, but in the end everything rests on political will, industrial and economic potential, this is the foundation. And we do not have it to answer the current challenges and maintain foreign policy ambitions. The acquisition of this potential is a question of at least 10 years, but that if the work will be, and not an imitation of violent activity in parallel with the construction of palaces and yachts at the top of the public pyramid .... Need the will, need talent in this area (which in general is not so common in life ), we need an understanding that current methods and ways to not fix it. While this is not, hammer on everything and do not bother at all. These are not our problems, these are problems of higher ones ...
    1. Serval 1 March 2020 11: 46 New
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      Katz offers to give up? :)
  • faterdom 1 March 2020 11: 24 New
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    How many freshly registered alarmists. Here they are, denyuzhki of the State Department on the cyber warriors of Ukraine and the Baltic states. One village not inhabited by anyone passed from hand to hand - a strategic breakthrough! Defense collapsed! They betrayed us! Babahs have been fighting Paul Idlib - this is a humanitarian disaster, hospitals and schools are in great danger.
    Of all the comments - the unwillingness of the Arabs and Alawites to be friends with a shovel - this is the root of evil. War is not only advancing, but it is also necessary to defend oneself.
    For now, it is necessary to close all flights to Turkey and take out all our rabid tourists. Recall the ambassador for advice.
    All Turks in the Russian Federation are quarantined for two weeks in connection with the coronovirus.
    Well, the nosrachs who are attacking on armored vehicles should continue to be disposed of, not yielding to all sorts of macro-agreements about the suspension of fire - for a long time there are already no resources there.
    It is more clear to declare a military-political position - to organize our NPs everywhere, and let them just try to offend. Three or four TU-22 around the clock for barrage over the Black Sea in the area of ​​the air defense zones of the Crimea - the way of guessing - what's inside.
    It’s not yet evening, and nothing has been lost.
    To Kurds to throw a hundred MANPADS, let them train. In the Greek press to pedal the problem of Sev. Cyprus. For Armenians - the issue of genocide through the French and American press. ADH and French Jeanne d, Ark - inflate the danger of manipulation of refugees by Turkey. Greta Tumberg is allowed to not go to school until Idlib is released. She doesn’t even walk, but she needs to refresh the occasion.
    And so on.
  • member 1 March 2020 11: 31 New
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    yes ... once again showed the world greatness and power .... the leadership of Russia - as impotent with ambitions, moreover passive ... minus ... poked you again, Russia FORWARD ... Shame ...
  • RUSSIAN_MISSILE 1 March 2020 11: 34 New
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    We must understand the whole depth of our depths))) calm down comrades, everything is going according to plan.
  • Business trip 1 March 2020 11: 36 New
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    Having read the comments, I decided that in the event of such a conflict in Russia, all sorts of twitters, facebooks and the Internet in general should be turned off. And then they lit the snot Putinslill, the guard 10 drones defeated the army, air defense shit, etc. In general, some talkers panic, others pick up. Now there is an information war worse than the real one. And what do you want, there is war. And people die and technology. Or was it not for the whole time of the war in Syria? What has changed since Aleppo? We need to wait for a real decision on Idlib, which will be after March 5.
    PS. It is interesting to observe how the press services of the Defense Ministry of Russia and Turkey behave. The Turks almost daily report on dozens, hundreds of virtually killed SAA fighters. At this pace, Assad will soon have to take the gun into his hands and into the trenches. Yes, there are losses, but are there such.
    Our MO is short and in fact. Bombed, were not informed ....
    1. Paranoid50 1 March 2020 12: 44 New
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      Quote: Traveler
      in the event of such a conflict in Russia, it is necessary, like in Turkey, to turn off all sorts of tweeters, facebooks and the Internet in general.

      And so it will be. yes Now they’re frolic, but in the case of serious things, a cut will be made,
      and dohay smear snot in their kitchens. And for those who are chopped for a minted coin, compensation is unlikely to happen.
  • Xambo 1 March 2020 11: 37 New
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    Hang on Syria, Russia is with you!
    Syria is now Russia, we will give slack and we will also have a khan .. hi
    1. Pytnik 1 March 2020 12: 47 New
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      But Iran says so wink Iran demanded that Erdogan get out of Syria by threatening a massive missile strike.

      Against the backdrop of a large-scale military operation of the Turkish army in Syria, official Tehran demanded that Turkey immediately stop striking at the Syrian army, threatening to launch a large-scale missile attack on militants and the Turkish military without warning. Iran’s statement is primarily due to the absence of any reaction to the Turkish attack by Russia.

      “Iran has officially announced its readiness to take revenge if Turkey does not stop striking Iranian targets in Syria. PS Tehran is not Damascus, it will not tolerate and listen to Moscow, ”the Military Observer community reports to Telegram. Maybe fake news, but the eye pleases good
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        Quote: Pytnik
        But Iran says so wink Iran demanded that Erdogan get out of Syria by threatening a massive missile strike.

        That is why Iran respect ..!
        Quote: Pytnik
        “Iran has officially announced its readiness to take revenge if Turkey does not stop striking Iranian targets in Syria. PS Tehran is not Damascus, it will not tolerate and listen to Moscow, ”reports

        Well done Persians, do not give up and they do not care the United States and Israel ..
        Quote: Pytnik
        "Telegram" is a community of "Military observer." Maybe fake news, but the eye pleases

        Very happy, they won’t write such a thing here .. The Jewish lobby will not allow this. Thank you for this news!
  • Vladimir Nizhegorodsky 1 March 2020 11: 47 New
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    Until they learn how to shoot drones.
    And to extinguish artillery batteries during counter-battery operation, it will be so.
    Since in addition to drones, NATO allies provide satellite imagery and the location coordinates of Syrian forces.
  • Serval 1 March 2020 11: 50 New
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    Quote: faterdom
    take out all our rabid tourists

    Not. They came for their money, let them go back to their own.
    But the cost of insurance for a trip to Turkey, it would be nice to raise to 400-500 dollars.
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    UAV Bayraktar TB2

    Video from YouTube. Description can not be read.
  • 75 Sergey 1 March 2020 12: 17 New
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    And why would refugees not take up arms and sweep away the cardons?
    1. Linxs 1 March 2020 12: 22 New
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      Because Erdogan is a sly fox. He needs to blackmail the EU with something.


      There was a serious mess at night. Hope the Turks learned a lesson.
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    Quote: Donkey driver
    And at the same time squeeze out extra players who are trying to claim something there.

    No, it's just that the players are unreliable - they are friends with Israel, they are indulging the Janissaries .... sad
    1. Alexandr Sharapov 1 March 2020 12: 41 New
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      The Syrian L-39 was shot down, nicknamed the Flying Zushka. A source of Tigers states that the launch was carried out from a Turkish observation post near Sarakib.
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        https://ren.tv/player/video/embed/667448#autoplay=1;
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      Quote: Radikal
      No, it's just that the players are unreliable - they are friends with Israel, they are indulging the Janissaries ...

      With Israel, who are friends? Who is against Russia, etc.
  • bayaraa 1 March 2020 12: 53 New
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    I do not understand both Russian and Syrians. The Syrians claimed to bring down to a single all air targets over the territory of their country. So what? Nothing. Ottoman drones with impunity destroy Syrian soldiers and equipment. Or Russian forbid them with obscenities that you can not bring them down?
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      Quote: bayaraa
      I do not understand both Russian and Syrians.

      Well, nobody can understand us ..
      Quote: bayaraa
      The Syrians claimed to bring down to a single all air targets over the territory of their country. So what? Nothing.

      Declare one. and technical capabilities are alas ..
      Quote: bayaraa
      Ottoman drones with impunity destroy Syrian soldiers and equipment. Or Russian forbid them with obscenities that you can not bring them down?

      All claims to the General Staff .... Netanyahu constantly rushes there and eats matzah with the generals ....
      Remember how everything was in Chechnya?
      Again, all the same .... Do not touch the order. fool
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  • sieras 1 March 2020 13: 02 New
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    I should have left a couple of weeks ago in disgrace. Now go away even more crap, but if you stay and do nothing to disgrace every day and then with a pissed rag they will chase them all the same. On Lithuanian sites they laugh, why should such investments be made, the Turks will be sent to help and no Russian threat is terrible. Then we wonder why no one recognizes Crimea, and who recognizes it that even the presence of Russian troops guarantees absolutely nothing to you. go anywhere and squeeze ours. If the Turks are so figachat, figure out how the Americans rolled up, would be any army.
    1. Alexandr Sharapov 1 March 2020 13: 04 New
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      The downed Syrian L-39 suddenly turned out to be a Turkish drone
  • DDZ57 1 March 2020 14: 12 New
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    Regarding Turkish artillery:
    according to Turkish data, in 2018 about 350 Firtina self-propelled guns were manufactured for the Turkish army. Produced since 2004, the 155-mm / 52-23 self-propelled howitzer T-155 Firtina is a licensed version of the well-known South Korean self-propelled howitzer Thunder. The modernized self-propelled howitzer New Generation Firtina is equipped with a new fire control system developed by the Turkish company Aselsan, the system also includes a sensor for measuring the initial velocity of the projectile. The new SLA was developed taking into account the experience of using Firtina self-propelled guns in combat against Kurdish separatists and in Syria. The howitzer can use the entire range of 155 mm NATO standard shots. The firing range of a conventional high-explosive fragmentation shell reaches 30 km. When using modern ARS, this parameter increases to 40 km, ARS with GG - 50 km.
    In more recently in the comments on the article
    https://topwar.ru/168291-boevoe-otdelenie-jepoha-v-patentah-i-v-metalle.html#comment-id-10164839
    An example was given:
    During the Doomsday War on October 6, 1973, the IDF first used howitzers with dl. barrel 45klb. / 19l, which provided a firing range of more than 40km, at the positions they had meteo and ballistic stations with Doppler radar and topographic detectors. Let the gunners
    they will report the result, taking into account the fact that the calculations are coordinated, they have fully mastered the instrumentation and at the landfills it was all rolled.
    In 1977 Armscor (South Africa) received technology for improving artillery guns and making long-range shots for them. About a year and a half later, Soviet advisers in Angola were very surprised when it became very difficult to use the BM-21, because if they didn’t manage to get away immediately after the volley, then the position was covered by some kind of tailed shells.
    If Grad was turned off 40 years ago, now what MLRS was turned off ?? How has the instrumentation of artillery changed in 40 years?
    What is screwed into the head of the projectile with wings and what is the CVO obtained ??
    What can CAA, R ... was mistaken, contrast with the above?
    I don’t draw conclusions, the minuses for the truthful technical information arrive like from an automatic gun.
    What about the following?
    Below is the Rheinmetall Denel Munition plaque from the Alcantpan range located in the North Cape of South Africa on November 6, 2019. About 7 months before the November event (March 19–20, 2019), RDM held the demonstration event “The Ammunition Demonstration Capability 2019” (ACD2019) at the Denberg Overland Test Site of Arniston (South Africa). About 800 existing and potential customers from 53 countries.
    Who thinks the Turks were not there? And the one who thinks that they are not in the wrong place is very deeply mistaken.
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    About air defense:
    An example from the same comments:
    Israel massively used drones massively in 1982. The result is impressive. The complete defeat of the Syrian multi-layered air defense system (RTV, ZRV, ZA) in the Bekaa Valley.
    And again 38 years have passed.
    What kind of air defense can be discussed.
    New Russians stepped on the same rake, maybe I don’t understand something?
    Or it will come when the teeth of the rake reach the stem of the brain, but it will be too late.
    Or am I again mistaken in something?
  • Mentat 1 March 2020 14: 48 New
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    Quote: Comrade Michael
    Where is our vaunted air defense and where is our much-publicized aviation? So Erdogan will sweep everyone out before the negotiations ... Minsk-2 again? Then what do we do there? If the Turks can push us so easily, then what can the stronger states do? It turns out we are phenomenally weak, or what?

    It turns out that those who invent you texts for fresh accounts are phenomenally stupid.
    Who should follow your moaning? Who is your scribble from these acces, juvenile dolboklyuy intended for? - So they do not play any role in Russian society, on the "adult" infantiles, with whom Western society is trying to make texts that compose you? - So they are not quoted in Russia. For whom then are you writing?
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    About the volume of noodles on the ears or who is deceiving whom.
    A small addition to what was said earlier about artillery.

    Left photo - Rheinmetall Denel Munition March 19--20, 2019 Expensive technical marketing event.
    Nobody hides anything, the principle is one - do not catch up, any whim for your money.
    So - the turn for several years to come.
    Right photo - June 2017 Rheinmetall Denel Munition held an event for military attaches, where he gave an overview of the products and their capabilities were demonstrated at the training ground. The left one in the picture does not remind anyone what conclusions he made, and then along Boyd’s loop ....
  • DDZ57 1 March 2020 16: 46 New
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    Well, for dessert.
    Recently, there was an article on the VO about a super ambitious American artillery program, the contingent of them is laughing at the full program. What will their face be like when 4mm artillery shell with ramjet ramps for existing guns with a barrel length of 5klb with a firing range of 155-52km in a controlled flight and in the overall dimensions of existing shells come out of this program within 150-200 years. But this is only in the next 4-5 years, and then what will happen ... ....
    The company "RDM" 17.01.2020/155/2005 It was stated: “RDM previously considered expanding the flight range of 155 mm AC through direct-flow jet technology, had a program that lasted until 2005. RDM was the first and only company to demonstrate ramjet operation in a rotating 2017 mm speaker in 2016. “RDM understands the advantages and limitations of technology, and we have an extensive history on the subject.” Representatives of RDM R. Oosthuizen and A. Whittaker in 2016. An extensive presentation was made at a symposium in Australia on this subject. On entering this area in 2018. At the DX Korea 155 exhibition, Poongsan Corporation (RK) announced. At the Eurosatory exhibition, Nammo and Boeing corporations presented a joint concept of XNUMX mm speakers with ramjet.
    And what can simply be done by a division of “nomadic” howitzers working with these ammunition, realizing a “pseudo-salvo” and setting up a carousel, and having fast-mounted camouflaged reinforced sludge points in which they carry out their maintenance and MTO, a flight mission is introduced into the on-board equipment. It’s not difficult to synchronize their work now, and they get intelligence quickly, because they have no problems with UAVs.
    So what MLRS can have problems from this "miracle".
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    I forgot a bit, the shells follow a "pseudo-ballistic" trajectory and at such ranges it is almost impossible to determine the launch site by existing artillery reconnaissance stations.
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    The caliber 152mm is not developed by anyone except the Russian Federation. There will be no export.
    And this is a big overhead.
    China supports 152, and develops 155mm.
    Take a close look at the 122mm ARS GG for the D-30.
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    And here are some photos of the legendary Shell: Vladivostok, Sochi, Syria.
    Day, smooth, dry road.
    There is talk that they removed the head.