Syrian army holds positions for three days under the blows of militants

For the third day, Syrian government forces are repelling attacks by militants near the city of Sarakib. The situation is aggravated by the support of the militant attacks by Turkish artillery and drones. It is reported by RIA News with reference to a military source.

According to the source, Turkish drums drones provide fire support to the attacking forces of the Hayat Tahrir ash-Sham terrorist group banned in Russia and other gangs. The actions of the Turkish military complicate the repulse of attacks, but despite this, government forces manage to hold their positions and even attempt to unblock the Damascus-Aleppo highway.

On Saturday night, attack drone attacked the advanced positions of the army and equipment in the area of ​​the city of Sarakib in Idlib

- said the source.

It is noted that the attacks of Turkish drones in the Serakib region destroyed a car with ammunition for the Syrian army, one unit of armored vehicles and a motorcycle. At the same time, it is not specified what kind of armored vehicles it was destroyed.

According to reports, the militants, under the cover of Turkish artillery, continue to attack the positions of the Syrian army, and in the case of a counterattack, they immediately go under the cover of Turkish observation posts, which enjoy immunity.

Meanwhile, Western Web users and readers of foreign media are increasingly perplexed and wonder why Turkey can "host" in the territory of a foreign state, directly calling Erdogan "crazy."

Erdogan flew off the coils. Invades another country (which, of course, is illegal). It supplies anti-aircraft guns to al-Qaeda (even the Americans do not allow this to themselves). Helps terrorists troops. Shells Russian planes. And when the country he attacked returns fire, whimpers. Seriously, it's time for him to leave. I hope NATO has enough brains to reason it

Comments

[faterdom]

All right.
Time does not work for Erdogan.
For the first time in the entire Syrian campaign, the barmalei even lose the information war. Thanks to the improvisation of the Sultan.

[My doctor]

Quote: faterdom

the first barmalei for the entire Syrian campaign even lose the information war. Thanks to the improvisation of the Sultan.

Most likely this is a selection of the necessary comments.

[SSR]

Quote: MyVrach

Quote: faterdom

the first barmalei for the entire Syrian campaign even lose the information war. Thanks to the improvisation of the Sultan.

Most likely this is a selection of the necessary comments.

Even if the selection, but this will not cancel the fact that the Europeans are in a quiet next afig, Erdogan avenges them for not letting Turkey into the EU. He talks to the Iranian leader about a political settlement. USA, Pentalgon versus the State Department. I wonder what kind of questions are brewed there? Even Israel has become quiet. Are there comments from there about Israel's friendly Erdogan?

[gmb]

Erdogan ruined military cooperation between Israel and Turkey, and tourism

[SSR]

Quote: gmb

Erdogan ruined military cooperation between Israel and Turkey, and tourism

And then what is comrade? They are not alone there, there are political ties with Iran, and with Iraq, with other neighbors, but we are only told an "interesting" version of a dozen "players".
So I wonder what kind of "porridge" is being cooked.
Ps.
It can boil for decades to come.

[gmb]

You think too well of them, what they think. If Assad had thought, he would not have crushed the Sunnis like his dad, the time and the numerical ratio of the communities would have changed. Saddam would not stand on the podium with a rifle and would not capture Kuwait. Iran is trying to ruin itself with a nuclear program and the fight for Shiism in everything the world. Jordan was spinning at first so that neighbors, Syria and Iraq, then the Palestinians did not capture, and now maneuvers, between its population and the newcomer, refugees from Syria and Palestinians. Egypt fights poverty and Muslim brothers, whose militants hid in Gaza through tunnels, and the previous president was their representative. Lebanon was tortured by Hezbollah and Iran, and corruption with clanism is directly related to religious affiliation.

[bouncyhunter]

The pseudo-sultan will soon choke on its imperial ambitions. Get the scimitar in the back. In vain he was warned last time ...

[serzh.kost]

Quote: faterdom

All right.
Time does not work for Erdogan.

why? justify

Quote: faterdom

For the first time in the entire Syrian campaign, the barmalei even lose the information war.

it depends on how you make a selection of comments.

[donavi49]

It is doubtful. The problem with UAVs is not solved. Poddubny is reporting today. And Anna also writes that they will be nightmare.

Plus for the first time - the capture of new positions has stopped and the loss has begun. Today in the south, the Baha'is went on the counter and shot down a number of villages.

The Syrians began to burn tires in their positions, in the hope that this would protect them from a thermal imager with UAVs.

Ordinary units degrade in 2-3 days under such a pressure, as Sarakib showed. How many Tigers and Quds are enough? Moreover, they left the south - the broads immediately went there to return the valley and mountains.

[smart ass]

I think the UAV and conventional shilok from storage was enough

[nerovnayadoroga]

Bl, it’s not clear, but what are the Suns, what the shit are waiting for, set!? And so on. rocket art !? , And so on. Avia !?

[Cyrus]

And what is the range of Shilka and modern UAV missiles?

[Oquzyurd]

Unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs) of the Turkish Air Force attacked the headquarters of the Syrian forces in the Ez-Zerba region south of the city of Aleppo. As Al Mayadeen reported on Saturday, as a result of a missile attack among the Syrian military and fighters of the Shiite Hezbollah party, there are dead and wounded. Their number is not given.

According to the channel, following the UAV attack, Turkish artillery opened fire on Assad’s positions, and Syrian armed opposition forces launched an attack on the city of Ez-Zerba, which is located on the Aleppo-Hama highway.
Ez-Zerba is located between Serakib and Aleppo.

[Romario_Argo]

Today in the south, the Baha'is went on the counter and shot down a number of villages

this is a false tactical retreat.
notice on the whole front today some feeling that the troops have gone somewhere
or moved 5 km. to avoid losses from Turkish attacks

[sabakina]

donavi49, let's hope for the best, and the worst will come.

[Romario_Argo]

reinforcements arrived

it seems ours in the port of Latakia
* berets, broniki, helmet

[donavi49]

They are still in Latakia and quite fresh. Deliver them to the place of battle and enter normally, now it will be quite difficult. If their column is burned along the way, then they will have to be collected throughout the province. And, with SMERSH and special departments, Assad is also not very.

[Romario_Argo]

Deliver them to the battlefield and enter normally, now it will be quite difficult

on the way they will cover the VKS. Su-34, Su-35, Mi-24, Ka-52

[donavi49]

Or not. There is something that the tigers of Sarakib are not covering for. And the remaining in the South too.

Also do not cover the headquarters:
Last night, Turkey attacked the advanced command centers of the Syrian Arab army in Idlib and Aleppo with the help of drones and cruise missiles, 4 officers of the Republican Guard were killed.
1. Major General Burhan Ramun, commander of the 124th brigade
2. Brigadier Ismail Ali, commander of the 873th battalion
3. Colonel Mazen Froati
4. Lt. Col. Mohammed Hammoud


Eight Hezbollah fighters also died. Lebanese recall all instructors from Syria.
Names of the martyrs:
- Ahmed Ali Abu Khader
- Issa Ali Burji
- Ahmed Fayadh Mustafa
- Talal Adel Hamza
- Mahmoud Adnan Hamed
- Ali Issa Qasim
- Muhammed Jamal Tarshishi
- Sayyid Ali Zanjani (Iranian)

Iranian - Iranian martyred in Turkish Airstrikes on #Idlib
Sayyid Ali Zanjani, an Iranian fighter was martyred in the Turkish airstrikes on Idlib province on February 28.

Hezbollah is the best light infantry in Syria. And their small detachments are more valuable than tigers.

Among the losses of another 10 people from proxies (Quds, various Shiite NDFs):
10 other Syrian Resistance forces were also martyred from Nubl, Al-Zahra and Al-Fuah settlements.

[Romario_Argo]

Moved to Aleppo SAM S-300
from 00:00 hours on February 29, 2020 announced a no-fly zone
excluding military aircraft SAA and VKS of the Russian Federation

[Grits]

Quote: Romario_Argo

Moved to Aleppo SAM S-300
from 00:00 hours on February 29, 2020 announced a no-fly zone
excluding military aircraft SAA and VKS of the Russian Federation

Just do not save the S-300 from drones. It is worth recognizing that our Russian air defense, which is rightfully the most advanced in the world, was not able to withstand such a new threat on a vast battlefield. there are no effective means against them yet. And the massive use of drones in this Turkish attack put, it seems, into a complete stupor of our generals. No one expected this, did not expect it, and did not prepare for it. I think we can safely call this the first successful mass use of drones in a modern war. Which we, unfortunately, lose.
If they destroy armor with the help of drones, then I won’t be surprised that soon we will hear about the destruction of this S-300. Such a big, expensive and terrible, such a small, cheap and cute apparatus.

[Nikolay3]

Quote: Gritsa

If they destroy armor with the help of drones, then I won’t be surprised that soon we will hear about the destruction of this S-300.

Gritsa (Alexander), do not panic and voice fakes about the destruction of the Shell in Syria - this was not. It was in Libya, and the fault of calculation is evident. How did the drone end up in the funnel of the dead zone of the antenna system of the SOC Shell-C1? Overslept or later turned on the Shell-C1, perhaps the drone was higher than the damage to the SAM-Shell-S1 N = 15 km - which is unlikely. Therefore, a comprehensive air defense is simply necessary, with the use of paired with higher-altitude air defense systems, such as, for example, Buk or S-300.
Moreover, the Shell-C1 easily destroys all types of drones, and the absence of the Shell-C1 air defense system in the combat formations of the SAA is a miscalculation of the command whether there is a shortage of the number of Shells in the Syrian armed forces ...

[Grits]

Quote: Nikolay3

Moreover, the Shell-C1 easily destroys all types of drones, and the absence of the Shell-C1 air defense system in the combat formations of the SAA is a miscalculation of the command whether there is a shortage of the number of Shells in the Syrian armed forces ...

It seems that they are simply not enough - everyone is involved near Damascus and at large air bases.
Then another question arises - why are our vaunted EW silent? Any hyped "Krassuhi" and others? Or are they simply powerless against UAVs and not as omnipotent as we are told?

[Grits]

Quote: Nikolay3

no need to panic

Panic may not be necessary. But urgent action is needed. And do the tests. Because it turned out, neither the Syrians, much less our military, were completely unprepared for such a scenario. Although any first-year cadet of a military school can see such a threat and understand how actions will take place. But we did not have absolutely no response plan - quick and effective. Moreover, nothing has been done so far, everything has been left to chance. There is no help to the Syrians, and the Syrians do not understand anything and do not know what to do without us. Especially in the absence of assistance from Russia.

[Isim soyad]

"It was in Libya"
So what? First, they launched a duck clause, and many are underway here in Libya. So what? Like in Libya, this is normal.
Yes, even in Madagascar. Why didn’t PanSyr bring down a Turkish UAV ???

[Isim soyad]

In order to bring down something, you must first see THIS. Well with Israel it’s clear, because of the mountains, sharply F-16 crashes, and then abruptly descends and runs away .And then what do you say? Oh yeah, miscalculations, calculations and a few more PanSyray. And when do the generals and specialists come up with this. Maybe send a sms.

[Alexey G]

Do not lose! Do not exaggerate! And our generals are not at all at an impasse! We need EWs! So that the brains of drones burned out! Well, shells, they are successfully fighting them! Only there are just a few of them! Therefore, we need tungusks, shilka, ZSUShki, all anti-aircraft art! Main air control and shoot them down! A drone is not such a cheap tool! Knock them off the Turks!

[Isim soyad]

Here you are listing everything, you need to quickly deliver something, give it to them, this is why they don't deliver it, they will quickly knock it down. Is it possible that the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation does not know or do not guess all this that you think is correct, smart and write on the "keyboard". Everyone can deliver, give or donate. The only thing is that the Russian media cannot distort the result. After all, before that, all the media, zombie, sofa specialists and heroes of all world (forgive the universe) warriors, they hollowed about the super-duper, number one SE-300 , beeches, tori. Israel, on the one hand, is hammering on the missile defense / air defense of the Russian Federation, Turkey on the other. And everything is childish, stupid and meaningless reservations. "The Israeli pilot, carrying an F-16 in his hands, ran to the top of the mountain, and suddenly from behind the mountains there he abruptly started the fighter, sat down and fired a rocket, and then turned off, picked up the F-16 and ran back. "I can't draw, otherwise I would have drawn this cartoon

[Prometey]

Quote: Romario_Argo

Moved to Aleppo SAM S-300

Are these the ones that even planes cannot see?

[smart ass]

And why are they needed at the battlefield? Get a rocket from a drone? First, air defense must be established then all other movements should be undertaken

[Vladimir_6]

Quote: Dobromir

PMC felon Prigogine rushes to the rescue.

Provocation on the Web: fake torture video, Ukrainians and CIT
“CIT employees, specializing in anti-Russian stuffing on the Web, did not miss this event and“ dashed off ”an article. However, they did not post it on the official resource citeam.org, having published it on telegra.ph, VKontakte and Facebook.
For those who do not know, I will explain: telegra.ph is part of the Telegram messenger allowed for Ukrainians for web publications. No one doubted that the matter was not without the Ukrainians. "
http://magspace.ru/blog/sled/308772.html

[Ural resident]

Very tricky plan. Typically, during hostilities, they try to minimize their losses and inflict more losses on the enemy. Amazing composure, 2 days iron Syrians. This is apparently a judo - use the strength of the enemy so that he believes in his victory. Reminds politics in the Donbass. Something is still not happening. Upstairs, didn’t a coup happen above? The reputation of Russia as a reliable ally is being discredited before the whole world. War, of course, must be avoided by any means, but allowed to destroy the remnants of the Syrian army, and even before the start of the main battles, well, this is beyond good and evil.

[Pereira]

They wait until the Turks run out of ammunition. And then ka-a-ak ....

[Grits]

Quote: Pereira

And then ka-a-ak ....

... Run again to Palmyra

[Grits]

Quote: Resident of the Urals

Amazing composure, 2 days iron Syrians.

It seems that our military is still simply in prostration from the effective strikes of the Turks. And they don’t know what to do. How to neutralize the UAV? How to neutralize Turkish art? What to do with Turkish posts? What to do with Turkish convoys?
While they will stupid and out of fear to cause trouble to the Turks, urinate in panties, from the SAA there will remain horns and legs. Erdogan does not blunt, but bends his line.

[Campanella]

Well, they covered the sky, which means that they will begin to clean drones.

[Siberian 66]

What are you talking about? What kind of information war do they lose ?? Read their press - there is euphoria from the actions of Turkish forces, especially from commercials with destroyed Syrian equipment. The people rallied in anticipation of a victorious war. our military commanders report huge problems from the UAV, the reserves of the 25th division were preparing for the attack, suffered heavy losses and went on the defensive. And the fact that they are holding her is already a feat. Here the following question is: why are Turkish BLPA not demolished from heaven? 1 version, the saddest. Ours do not help the Syrians become more accommodating in the coming negotiations. And on them, under the pretext of peaceful initiatives and detente, all the successes of the Syrians and ours over the past month are leveled. Erdogan will win. But the version in our press will be the most benevolent. Because to fight far from the homeland with a regular army, given the blocked Bosphorus, this is a rout.
2 version. Ours do not shoot down Turkish BLPAs, because there are trump cards in our pocket and we have a tricky plan. Only early trumps spread. In favor of this version is the defeat of the Turkish headquarters. Such things just don't get done ..

[figwam]

Quote: Sibiryak 66

why do not Turkish BLPA take down from heaven?

Because we are not at war with Turkey.

[sagitch]

But like us, a military ally of Syria ...

[Vol4ara]

Quote: sagitch

But like us, a military ally of Syria ...

And that they have already signed an allied treaty?

[Andrey.AN]

there is an agreement that provides the Syrian government with bases in Tartus and Latakia of the Russian Federation for 50 years, this agreement spells out the powers, obligations and responsibilities of the parties. I can assure you, on the basis of this agreement of the Russian Federation with Syria, the Allies.

[Vol4ara]

Quote: Andrey.AN

there is an agreement that provides the Syrian government with bases in Tartus and Latakia of the Russian Federation for 50 years, this agreement spells out the powers, obligations and responsibilities of the parties. I can assure you, on the basis of this agreement of the Russian Federation with Syria, the Allies.

no

[Andrey.AN]

There is nothing for you, specify.

[gohomeyanki]

so it is obvious ... the presence of the base is NOT equal to the union.
A union is all the same a treaty where different buns are stipulated, like if they attack me, then my ally will declare war ... well, something like that.

And here, in fact, with Turkey, Russia has a lot of contracts and also has more cooperation for money, and in general in the future Syria will not be super rich.

more cooperation, and more contracts then in your union .... well then Turkey is more our ally. )

[Grits]

Quote: figvam

Because we are not at war with Turkey.

Most likely, because we simply don’t know how to deal with UAVs

[9 Shaft]

yes there are a lot of questions and few answers, it’s bad that there are no pro analysts at VO, everything is somehow meager and everything is sofa

[Incvizitor]

There they clearly have fierce propaganda, where they "have almost already won."

[igorj 51]

More fierce propaganda than yours still need to look for ..

[Maz]

As a result of the counterattacks, the militants seize settlements: Kulaydin, al-Khaluba, Safuhn, Kafr Uveid, Dukmak, al-Zakum and Khazarin.
In total, 21 settlements were captured by militants in the Al-Gab Valley and the Zawiya Mountains.
The network is replete with video frames of the "work" of the Turkish drums of the UAV, art and missile defense forces involved in Idlib on the SAA equipment and infantry ..
From 17 minutes

[Grits]

Quote: Maz

As a result of the counterattacks, the militants seize settlements: Kulaydin, al-Khaluba, Safuhn, Kafr Uveid, Dukmak, al-Zakum and Khazarin.

This is to be expected. I argued with many here, they minus me and considered me a defeatist. But only patriotic cries of war are not won.
After all, it was clear that the south of Idlib was being cleaned up easily, because there were practically no militants there. SAA entered semi-empty villages. And while Turkey did not meet there, it was waiting in the wings. Now this hour has come - the Turks have spread to this section and now the defeat will begin here. The Syrians will run back. And they will return the M-5 highway anyway.
Regrettably, it is neither pleasant nor patriotic to admit, but Erdogan keeps his word and in the near future (if ours do not help) will return everything again to the positions of which he spoke - to the Sochi memorandum line.

[protoss]

Quote: faterdom

Thanks to the improvisation of the Sultan.

but it seems to me that there is no improvisation.
Erdogan promised to push the Asadites outside the de-escalation zone if they themselves did not leave before the end of February. an operation was being worked out for this, preparation was taking place.
we decided to break this plan by hitting the Turks so that in the wake of hysteria and shock, they would start and break firewood - declare war on Syria, for example. agree all this was waiting for the next morning.
Erdogan did not declare war, while the artillery and uavs started working in full growth. As a result, there is no war, as it were, but the Syrians are being mowed down like tanchikakh - "get down to the art, I can light it."
per day, shock in Turkey turned into calm anger, beautiful videos went balm on hurt feelings. and only then did Erdogan come out, call Putin, give a speech.
as I understand the initial plan, which was prepared by the Turks, remained in work. no false start, no fuss.

[Stalllker]

Erdogan did not declare war, while artillery and UAVs earned at full height right here NO and right there YES

[501 Legion]

there are still people with a head judging by the comments

[Bratkov Oleg]

The American blue dream is a war between a country and Russia.

[ABM]

let them search for those who wish;)
while there are no fools!

[CERBERFOL]

Readers of foreign media. - East is a delicate matter.

[sabakina]

Quote: CERBERFOL

Readers of foreign media. - East is a delicate matter.

True, this does not apply to Erdogan.

[knn54]

The drones were "uncommanded", however. But in Libya, Haftar solved this problem.

[Livonetc]

Really interesting moment.
However, in Libya there is no such a large Turkish military force massively supported by artillery.
Perhaps the Syrians are not risking their air defense in the area.
They still need shells for the defense of strategic targets.
Those wishing to strike at them in abundance.

[dauria]

The drones were "commanded", however

There was such a game. Hands behind your back, ride on one leg and push the opponent, trying to make you stand on both legs. Sounds like a fight?
Here is the same thing. There is no real air support for either defense or offensive. Forbidden. No air defense - Forbidden. Artillery does not cover the entire depth of the front. In addition, the border is also LOW.
So they jump on one leg. And pushing. Therefore, they fly, why don’t they fly, since they do not hit either in the air or at the bases?
So do not idolize drones. It's nothing . Unpleasant, necessary, but a trifle.

[Grits]

Quote: dauria

So do not idolize drones. It's nothing . Unpleasant, necessary, but a trifle.

Your love for real aviation is clear. Only this trifle now, in the absence of "classical" aviation, is very good at looking for the deployment of Syrian soldiers, transmitting data to the artillery, which immediately covers them. And sometimes she strikes well herself. Not even a trifle - the UAV terrorized the entire SAA grouping. Soldiers simply do not know where they are arriving from and what to expect the next minute, where to hide, how to defend themselves. And in war it is equal to defeat.

[dauria]

It’s not even a trifle - the UAV has terrorized the entire CAA group

And you forbid the cat to bite fleas - they will gobble up to the bones.
Do you understand what happened there? On this sector of the front, the enemy was given operational dominance in the air! Just like that, take it. Scout the bombs. Wonders..

[Swordserg]

Along the way, in the west they begin to realize where they are being drawn in and in every possible way semaphore hint that they do not want to get involved because of the moron.

[Bratkov Oleg]

The USA dreams of an armed conflict between Turkey and Russia, Erdrogan will be forgiven for everything, they will give help, immediately, with money, weapons, everything NATO has stopped, will it work or not? Yes, and Erdrogan himself, quite possibly, is firmly held by the eggs, and led in the right direction.

[Kapral Alphych]

I support! And so it is! While there are NATO bases in Turkey, it cannot be a priori independent in making its decisions. Therefore, behind the back of Erdogan, American and Jewish patron capitalists loom openly

[Alexey Sommer]

Quote: Bratkov Oleg

The US is dreaming of an armed conflict between Turkey and Russia,

Then it was clear to couch that the Turks would be drawn into a conflict, but in our General Staff, did they understand that?
If so, where have you climbed? I can’t understand this.

[Grits]

Quote: Alexey Sommer

Then it was clear to couch that the Turks would be drawn into a conflict, but in our General Staff, did they understand that?

They understood, but did nothing. And, it seems, they did not have operational action plans, judging by the lack of response so far. It was hoped that Erdogan is a good friend of Putin and will always call him.

[Ural resident]

When Turkish drones land, why are they there? The second day is hollowed by any technique. What is this no-fly zone, what are we afraid of?
https://vk.com/video-123538639_456258332
"The nature of the fighting has changed. In the skies over Idlib, Turkish attack UAVs are operating and this is now the main threat to government forces. So far, only one Turkish drone has been shot down, and a dozen of them are working here" -Evgeny Poddubny. "

[krillon]

Are there experts to comment on the absence of electronic warfare systems in this area against UAVs?

[Siberian 66]

The problem of the Syrians is in the complete absence of military air defense. "Shilki" have long been unable to perform tasks as intended. "Armor" is still an object-based air defense, being in the area of ​​hostilities is not for them. Only ours can help here. The question is - what are the plans of our command - a full-length cut or a descent on the brakes ..

[Ural resident]

Quote: Siberian 66

The problem of the Syrians is in the complete absence of military air defense. "Shilki" have long been unable to perform tasks as intended. "Armor" is still an object-based air defense, being in the area of ​​hostilities is not for them. Only ours can help here. The question is - what are the plans of our command - a full-length cut or a descent on the brakes ..

They declared our no-fly zone, not the Syrians, I don’t understand our curators, they are methodically beating the wards in front of their eyes, can they even land or can’t really aim at them?

[gohomeyanki]

Generally speaking, the Syrians announced this,
Russia just doesn’t let F16 Turkish, because there is so little space for airplanes, even if the Turks are naughty there it will be difficult to coordinate.

[Ural resident]

Quote: gohomeyanki

Generally speaking, the Syrians announced this,
Russia just doesn’t let F16 Turkish, because there is so little space for airplanes, even if the Turks are naughty there it will be difficult to coordinate.

I heard that the Syrians from tomorrow, or rather from 00:XNUMX announced. That is, until now, no. And what it will mean, maybe just a ban on flying for security, in connection with the hostilities.

[ali58]

Air defense in the south deployed there Jews hollow. We need another air defense regiment in the northeast to deploy.

[ABM]

TURKISH SELF-PROPELLED ARTILLERY HITS PURPOSES! Self-propelled guns 155 mm - drones adjust fire. https://rg.ru/2020/02/27/chem-mogli-sbit-tureckij-udarnyj-bespilotnik-anka-sv-sirii.html - a regular reconnaissance drone was shot down. Where did you get information about using shock drones ?!

[sabakina]

So I also think that how many shock drones you need to have and which ones to destroy armored vehicles with two fingers on the asphalt?

[voyaka uh]

This is visible in the video. The technology is hit by small rockets with cum warheads,
rather than 155 mm artillery shells. Amaze with great accuracy, with a CVO of about 0.5 m.
Turkish artillery fires on the front line, forcing the infantry to leave their positions.

[Saxahorse]

Quote: voyaka uh

This is visible in the video. The technology is hit by small rockets with cum warheads,

The warrior is right. Someone decided to open the sky to Turkish shock drones. Assad’s army was disemboweled from the air, and the Russian VKS type had nothing to do with it. ...

[ABM]

ha;) did you see the explosions of cumulative shells ?! military after all by sight. Watch the gaps in the video

[Grits]

Quote: voyaka uh

This is visible in the video. The technology is hit by small rockets with cum warheads,
rather than 155 mm artillery shells. Amaze with great accuracy, with a CVO of about 0.5 m.
Turkish artillery fires on the front line, forcing the infantry to leave their positions.

Admittedly, they work very effectively. And a bunch of reconnaissance unmanned aerial vehicle and artillery are more than successful.
And again, we must admit that our military continues to think and act on the level of past wars and conflicts. Our group in Syria, it seems, was not adapted to such a modern, flexible and new war.
Anyone who does not agree, let him put a minus, but at the same time refute me and list the facts of effective opposition to the actions of the Turkish army.

[Alekseev]

Quote: Gritsa

Our group in Syria, it seems, was not adapted to such a modern, flexible and new war.

Speech is not a husband.
What is our grouping? We provide assistance to CAA and provide it effectively. Despite the measures taken by the "partners", the entire territory of Syria up to the Euphrates was cleared of ISIS and other similar formations. And how was it before our help? The fighting took place in Ghouta near Damascus, a strip of territory in the west of the country remained in the hands of Assad ...
What is essentially the problem.
The Syrian army is really not capable of covering its battle formations from air strikes. After all, they were practically not applied during the years of the struggle against ISIS. Yes, a fairly effective system has been created to cover Damascus and some other objects from strikes, mainly the Kyrgyz Republic. But military air defense, apparently, is in its infancy, it simply was not needed before.
Why not provided? How so, who is to blame ?! Why didn’t they create a sufficient group of military air defense in Idlib and Allepo, why didn’t they use AWACS, why didn’t they use camouflage from the WTO, cover with smoke, aerosols, etc.?
Why are Syrians weak in discipline and there are not enough qualified personnel to conduct a successful air defense battle, why can’t you deploy several of our air defense regiments there and in general, start fighting for them? Modern and flexible, as a friend wrote here.
Yes, and did not expect such a reaction from Erdogan, he understands that he risks a lot, nevertheless he went to aggravation. What is the risk? The mass of Turks did not want to die in Syria, and there were few blows to them, they did not touch the checkpoints at all. Erdogan is well aware that even Syria has the opportunity to use high-precision weapons for the sons of the Turkish homeland (Tochka-U) and SAA can help in this regard with more modern systems. Including facilities in Turkish territory. NATO, apparently, the military conflict of its member with the Russian Federation is unacceptable, about which the Sultan was intelligibly informed. Iran woke up. Then one comrade declared that they say that Iran doesn’t care that, they say, he’s not fighting in Idlib, he’s not his zone of influence. It turned out that his zone was fighting, the Turks received an official warning, they say, the Turkish sons in the zone of defeat of Iranian weapons.
And finally, a hypothetical military conflict between the Turks and Russia. We, of course, do not need this, but the Turks understand that such a conflict is the end of a modern and relatively well-fed Turkey as a state, and not the end of the reign of Erdogan and the brethren alone.
I will not argue, like some civilians, about the impossibility of war by an "expeditionary force with the likelihood of closing the straits", etc.
I will assume that in Istanbul a powerful explosion (explosions) thundered and, for unknown reasons, the level of, say, radiation rose slightly. Or harmful substances such as coronavirus were discovered. And there is still an oriental bazaar, etc. Where will the inhabitants of the multi-million megalopolis run to, Erdogan will open the border to Europe to them, or what?
What about the rate of the lyre and the level of economy achieved by overwork, what about hotels on the shores of the warm sea?
Everyone understands this, so Erdogan's grin is a gesture of despair, so he goes to Moscow.
As for the creation of an effective military air defense force grouping, something can be done, but this will require dozens of modern air defense systems (air defense systems), the constant alert of airborne warning systems and fighters, and most importantly, personnel that Syria does not have enough of. And not only for air defense. Replace them with ours? Do we need this? Question. And the army in the Russian Federation is not great today to replace everyone everywhere ..
In connection with the foregoing, I support a reasonable compromise and a diplomatic solution to the problem to which, by the way, the Turks are calling.

[Grits]

Quote: Alekseev

In connection with the foregoing, I support a reasonable compromise and a diplomatic solution to the problem to which, by the way, the Turks are calling.

At least someone answered with an adequate and detailed commentary, and not with agitation from the fence.

[ABM]

"The military commander spoke about the damaged Syrian tank, which is located just a kilometer from the observation post (OP) of the Turkish army. According to him, it was the Turkish military who knocked it out. Another proof was a 155-mm artillery shell near the wall of one of the houses of the village, which did not exploded after a shot. NATO armies, in particular, the Turkish army, have such a caliber of artillery. And the militants had never fired from such weapons before. "

[Ural resident]

Already profiled a lot, because of the great design. If the drones are hosted right up to the negotiations, then this can be counted as surrendering the allies, even if they all put them in tomorrow, there will be a jingo-patriotic screech, but the question remains - why did the Turks allow the Turks to destroy the Syrians for two days - they have big losses and just from the most combat-ready units. Ours most likely also hit, because it is unlikely to do without advisers and PMCs ..

[gohomeyanki]

The Turkish also fall, and the Russian aviation flies through them and the weapons that Russia has supplied, albeit old.
Syria is not an ally. They didn’t do anything, then if they can agree it will save tens / even hundreds of thousands of lives. And these will essentially be martyrs.

[Grits]

Quote: Resident of the Urals

If drones host up to negotiations, then this can be counted as surrender of the allies

This can be considered as another conflict, miserably lost by Russian technology, Russian advisers and Russian planning.

[Maz]

Quote: Resident of the Urals

When Turkish drones land, why are they there? The second day is hollowed by any technique. What is this no-fly zone, what are we afraid of?

But nihto is not afraid ...
The Syrian government from today noon to 18.00:08 p.m. on March 2020, XNUMX declared the international flights to (from) Aleppo to the north, north-west and south-west to be closed in the entire range of altitude levels for flights of all types of aircraft, with the exception of military aircraft.

[Grits]

Quote: Maz

The Syrian government from today noon to 18.00:08 p.m. on March 2020, XNUMX declared the international flights to (from) Aleppo to the north, north-west and south-west to be closed in the entire range of altitude levels for flights of all types of aircraft, with the exception of military aircraft.

And how do you imagine the destruction of UAVs using the S-300, which was installed there?

[Grits]

Quote: Resident of the Urals

When Turkish drones land, why are they there? The second day is hollowed by any technique. What is this no-fly zone, what are we afraid of?

In the minds of our aging generals, the word "no-fly zone" immediately brings up the image of an airplane. they also created such a zone. And what is a UAV, they seem to have heard, but never saw, without leaving the offices of the General Staff. Therefore, there are no such flying vehicles for them. And if they are not, then why come up with something in response? Just think, some little thing is buzzing - there are no planes.

[anjey]

why Turkey can "master" the territory of a foreign state.

Yes, why, for example, the German Armed Forces do not enter their former Silesia on the territory of Poland, I think many Poles will want to live in Germany itself than in their homeland the opposition is ready. And the Germans will restore justice by German in force and Wroclaw will become Breslau, but the Turks can their even the US bullshit supported ...

[Livonetc]

Gdansk will again turn into Danzig.

[Fedor Sokolov]

Without aviation support, the Syrian army will not last long.

[donavi49]

Well, the UAV is a real disaster ...


Poddubny in the latest report says that even motorcyclists on the M5 are fired.

[ABM]

rave! they hit 155 mm self-propelled guns - correct drones! therefore, do not spare shells! they are not expensive, unlike guided missiles.

[donavi49]

Well, UAVs are also thrown. Plus spotter. That is flexibility. When a spotter. If you need to strike right now, urgently, then they drop their guided bombs. There were bombs on the downed Anka. Suspensions are also visible on all shot TV2 and Ankh

Well, and Poddubny says, just to convey simply and intelligibly, to the mass audience.

[Ural resident]

Quote: ABM

rave! they hit 155 mm self-propelled guns - correct drones! therefore, do not spare shells! they are not expensive, unlike guided missiles.

artillery and rocket systems are beating, but thanks to the guidance of drones - it means you can not touch them - are they good?

[alexmach]

Well yes ... 155mm ..
A tank with soldiers "on armor" rides over it in motion, arrives exactly at the target, and after that those who were traveling jump from it and who runs back, who rolls back .. The first hit in the video above.
Exactly 155 mm shell ... well, what else could it be.

[ABM]

"The military commander spoke about the damaged Syrian tank, which is located just a kilometer from the observation post (OP) of the Turkish army. According to him, it was the Turkish military who knocked it out. Another proof was a 155-mm artillery shell near the wall of one of the houses of the village, which did not exploded after a shot. NATO armies, in particular, the Turkish army, have such a caliber of artillery. And the militants had never fired from such weapons before. "

[alexmach]

No, well, I’m not saying that they do not shoot 155 mm. There they shoot everyone and RZSO and artillery. I just point out that the equipment in the video is struck, well, definitely not with 155mm shells.

[ABM]

are we talking about video turks? nothing more to talk about. And a video reporter. Turkish video - fire is fired at immovable targets, except the first. Try to analyze how they can bum so? this is not the american army! reporter’s video - 1. hit is inaccurate (there is no talk about any KVO 0.5 m); 2. the shape and direction of the gap (the depth and direction of the gap corresponds to a 155 mm shell, and not to a cumulative shell); 3. mass of fragmentation damage (not possible with directional cumulative detonation).

[alexmach]

are we talking about video turks?

About him.

Turkish video - fire is carried out on immovable targets, except the first

It is not.

Try to analyze how they can bum so?

Unambiguously something controlled differently, such accuracy is not possible even for standing goals. Rather, I agree with the warrior that the ATGM seems to me so in terms of the nature of the damage.

[ABM]

Quote: alexmach

Anke

pay attention to the words of the correspondent: "the shock wave went there" - i.e. not a direct hit. And the rocket must be powerful enough to leave such a funnel - everything is like a 155 mm projectile!

[voyaka uh]

Yes, accuracy is high, CVO is approximately 0.5 m.
Tanks get neatly into the engine.
The extermination of the regular army. Accurate weapons steers.

[Oquzyurd]

When they said that the Turkish military-industrial complex had a technological revolution, no one believed, and grinning wrote that they were traders and grow tomatoes.

[voyaka uh]

The Russians had a clear underestimation of the military-industrial complex of Turkey, and Turkish industry in general.

[Oquzyurd]

The problem is that the vast majority of Russians know only the Russian language, and all the information for them is only in Russian. That is, they do not have a second, third, etc. language and they cannot access other sources by language barrier. they don’t want to know, thinking that they are still right in everything and the rest should be drawn to them, and not to teach them, even a foreign language) Hence the underestimation, not only in the military-industrial complex of Turkey ...

[alexmach]

The problem is that the vast majority of Russians know only the Russian language, and all the information for them is only in Russian. That is, they do not have a second, third

This is not a problem, for example, although I speak English, I receive information about military operations exclusively from VO. Well, simply because I do not know the best sources (which does not mean that they do not exist of course)
Rather, the problem is different. Here Leshy writes below.

To my great regret, for many of my compatriots all this (an objective assessment of the situation) has been replaced by hat-inspiring moods

I will add here the complete degradation of rational thinking.

[Oquzyurd]

"I will add here a complete degradation of rational thinking."
Above, he wrote, "And they themselves do not want to know, thinking that they are all the same right in everything and the rest should be drawn to them", which is part of the degradation of rational thinking.

[Rzzz]

Quote: Oquzyurd

The problem is that the vast majority of Russians know only the Russian language, and all the information for them is only in Russian

As if the English language information is not being manipulated. Even those sources that broadcast in two languages ​​"from there" can give different information in Russian and in some French.

[Leshy1975]

Quote: voyaka uh

The Russians had a clear underestimation of the military-industrial complex of Turkey, and Turkish industry in general.

To my great regret, for many of my compatriots, all this (an objective assessment of the situation) has been replaced by shappy-handed moods. And little will change, even when it turns out that they were greatly mistaken. Those who warned about it in advance will be appointed guilty. Everything is "logical", if it rains outside, the barometer is to blame. He was such a bastard, he showed rain a day before.

PS L is the logic.

[gohomeyanki]

Well, we are not at war with Turkey, and so far there are more contracts and dough. There are a lot of deses, and they are also glad to pick up Russia, such as Ukrainians, Turks, EEsevtsev and others)
there, apparently, diplomats and economists of Russia are drowning in order to maintain an alliance with Turkey at any cost, or rather it is more valuable. The military is more sober here, but rather, their proposals are also different.

So there advisers advise against Syria, but as we know it decides the GDP, if and when it decides .... Syria to be.

While the Syrians are doing well in general, the south has been squeezed out almost to the highway, now they are clearing the valley. seracib hold. Why the Syrians do not answer according to the observation posts, the question is ... apparently there is some kind of backstage game, they want to persuade Erdogan not to start a war game. Or they are waiting for clusters of photo / video evidence of the violation of the regime by TURKEY, but these fools themselves send this video / photo and make statements.

[Leshy1975]

Quote: gohomeyanki

Well, we are not at war with Turkey, and so far there are more contracts and dough. There are a lot of deses, and they are also glad to pick up Russia, such as Ukrainians, Turks, EEsevtsev and others)
there, apparently, diplomats and economists of Russia are drowning in order to maintain an alliance with Turkey at any cost, or rather it is more valuable. The military is more sober here, but rather, their proposals are also different.

So there advisers advise against Syria, but as we know it decides the GDP, if and when it decides .... Syria to be.

While the Syrians are doing well in general, the south has been squeezed out almost to the highway, now they are clearing the valley. seracib hold. Why the Syrians do not answer according to the observation posts, the question is ... apparently there is some kind of backstage game, they want to persuade Erdogan not to start a war game. Or they are waiting for clusters of photo / video evidence of the violation of the regime by TURKEY, but these fools themselves send this video / photo and make statements.

Yes, you finally understand that no one in the world is interested in this evidence. But I wonder if you can reinforce them with military and economic force. According to the well-known saying - with a Pistol and a kind word, much more can be achieved than with one single approved word. And the UN has long been dead, having suddenly died after the collapse of the USSR.
According to Idlib, I'm really tired of proving something. Let's wait a little while and see everything there. And whose Faberge is stronger and whose trunk is longer.

PS But after the completion of the active phase of the Idlib exacerbation, I’m ready to seriously talk about the future prospects of our stay in Syria and how all this will affect the situation inside the Russian Federation itself.

[gohomeyanki]

I don’t have to prove anything, I just wrote it, it decides the GDP, it has multi-page reports, pluses / minuses, from certain actions.

And the best scenario will still come to an agreement, which Erdogan hasn’t done yet.

ps proof yes ..... not needed, but there should be a moral side of the issue, Turkish soldiers will die, who most likely did not voluntarily there. The Russians, though voluntarily there, can also perish. And also the economy, "Turkish Stream", trade and so on.

it turns out so ... if there is no law then I will rape and kill. Besides the UN, there is also truth ... internal, for a just cause. And besides the Westerners, there is still another world, but the licorice of the West, even small wedges will drive into their well-being, you can see XU from XU. In the end, they are tactically like them, but strategically them.

[Leshy1975]

Quote: gohomeyanki

it turns out so ... if there is no law then I will rape and kill.

Well, in the world it turns out. They rape international law and kill real people. The list of countries is large, you yourself know it very well. And the moral side has not stopped anyone else, however much you and I would like to. And about the Kremlin’s strategic planning and the quality of those possible reports (although the matter may not be the reports, but the personalities of those who make decisions), I don’t want to argue today, it’s too late, and the argument can be long. Just remember, strategic failures with gas pipelines, failure in the Ukrainian direction, and in Syria we found ourselves in a situation in which we do not have good (at least for ourselves) solutions.

[gohomeyanki]

In the world, it turns out you are either an animal or a person). the gas and oil pipeline may be completed next year. In Ukraine, it is not yet clear that the Russians have overcome Crimea already in the black, what will happen next with Ukraine will show the future;

The world is not limited to the West, there are other countries, they will see what is happening, at least for themselves, to make certain decisions.

there are a lot of options for the development of events, including for Russia,
take a small area. Weapons, NATO-type and Russian weapons will clash, and then either more purchases will be made, or "work on mistakes" will have to be done seriously.
and that and that in fact is a plus, Putin decides. )

[ABM]

they do not show misses! dozens of direct hits and close gaps were selected for the video

[voyaka uh]

Even if there are mistakes (and they are inevitable), they do not change the overall picture
the defeat of Syrian technology and the army from the air and accurate artillery strikes.

[sabakina]

Lesha, I don’t understand what ... Do you need a calm country on the border or a walk-field?

[Incvizitor]

They don’t need a strong Syria, they won’t be able to bomb a strong Syria, and the Turks weaken Syria, which is good for them.

[artifact]

Quote: Incvizitor

They don’t need a strong Syria, they won’t be able to bomb a strong Syria, and the Turks weaken Syria, which is good for them.

and not only ... Syria was sentenced long ago! there everyone is interested not only in weakening, but in the division of Syria, some personally as cowboys, some through "moderate and not so", and Israel would be so easy to shoot at all. naturally without Assad, and even more so any influence of Russia.

[Grits]

Quote: Incvizitor

They don’t need a strong Syria, they won’t be able to bomb a strong Syria, and the Turks weaken Syria, which is good for them.

Not surprisingly, Israeli helicopters recently attacked Kuneitra. For what? And so that the Syrians of air defense could not pull to the front in Idlib

[ABM]

"The military commander spoke about the damaged Syrian tank, which is located just a kilometer from the observation post (OP) of the Turkish army. According to him, it was the Turkish military who knocked it out. Another proof was a 155-mm artillery shell near the wall of one of the houses of the village, which did not exploded after a shot. NATO armies, in particular, the Turkish army, have such a caliber of artillery. And the militants had never fired from such weapons before. "

[alexmach]

The extermination of the regular army. Accurate weapons steers.

Well, the point here is the total superiority of the Turkish army, including the technical one. For some reason, to this day, the regulars of the forum did not want to believe.

[ABM]

pay attention to the words of the correspondent: "the shock wave went there" - i.e. not a direct hit. And the rocket must be powerful enough to leave such a funnel - everything is like a 155 mm projectile!

[sabakina]

But what, Poddubny was able to change the laws of physics and the shock wave goes where necessary?

[ABM]

here! exactly, it is:

[viber]

. Turkish UAV in Idlib

[Oquzyurd]

You can add kamikaze drones to this list https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RES3ZdCs6n4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TbUfv57A08c

[ABM]

weaker hand grenade

[Oquzyurd]

Enough to disable a car, truck, and several infantrymen were killed. If a swarm of drones, then infantrymen generally kirdyk.

[voyaka uh]

With very high accuracy, 100 explosives are enough to hit,
to destroy a car or kill an ATGM calculation.

[ABM]

yes ... and a combat bike to break

[BREAKTHROUGH READY]

weaker hand grenade

Firstly, the explosion of even a grenade, for example in a trench or a car, is death / serious injuries to everyone present.
Secondly, the kilogram cumulative warhead of this "Alpagu" is closer in mass to the RPG-7 grenade (without a propellant charge, sustainer engine and stabilizers), which is several times more powerful than hand grenades.

[ABM]

I, in general, are not talking about theory - it’s a swarm, there’s nothing to argue about, but in this Syrian situation it’s not about that

[Guillon]

We need real means of counteraction and attack, and not just electronic warfare !!!
This is a really underrated threat!

[Grits]

Quote: viber

Turkish UAV in Idlib

Our army only dreams of such a nomenclature

[viber]

The militants announce the return of control over three more settlements - Kalkadin, Al-Khalobi and Kaukafin.

[Grits]

Quote: viber

The militants announce the return of control over three more settlements - Kalkadin, Al-Khalobi and Kaukafin.

In this situation, the CAA will have to leave the Al-Gab Valley urgently. Otherwise, either the boiler or will be shot from the heights.
Erdogan systematically brings his voiced plan to completion. And there is nothing to oppose him. Besides patriotic statements, how famously we beat the Turks in all previous wars.

[Arg107]

The Syrian government from February 00 to March 00, 29 declared closed in the entire range of altitude levels for flights of all types of aircraft, with the exception of military aircraft, the traditional international routes to (from) Aleppo in the north, northwest and southwest directions.

Local sources report the deployment of S-300 anti-aircraft systems near Aleppo, which have been in service with the Syrian army since the fall of 2018. Moreover, on the night of February 29, anti-aircraft missile launches were shot in the city area. http://in24.org/world/38779

Let's hope tomorrow they start to shoot down.

[Ural resident]

Quote: Arg107

The Syrian government from February 00 to March 00, 29 declared closed in the entire range of altitude levels for flights of all types of aircraft, with the exception of military aircraft, the traditional international routes to (from) Aleppo in the north, northwest and southwest directions.

Local sources report the deployment of S-300 anti-aircraft systems near Aleppo, which have been in service with the Syrian army since the fall of 2018. Moreover, on the night of February 29, anti-aircraft missile launches were shot in the city area. http://in24.org/world/38779

Let's hope tomorrow they start to shoot down.

under the total domination of Turkish artillery and drones, any complex will be destroyed on the march, unless they are under the Russian flag. First you need to land drones

[ABM]

No, not so long-range Turkish self-propelled guns 155 mm and MLRS. Turks have no aviation in Syria

[Ural resident]

MLRS over 100 km they marked with a high-precision shell. Although the S-300 should continue to work. But do not forget about Turkish sabotage groups, as they were mentioned about them, they are probably already sitting in the rear of the Syrians and waiting for an order. Only ours can figure them out, the Syrians are unlikely to have so many opportunities.

[Oquzyurd]

As a former member of the Turkish intelligence on TV said that almost every village in Iraq and Syria has our people.

[Grits]

Quote: Arg107

Let's hope tomorrow they start to shoot down.

What will they shoot down? UAV?

[Dikson]

Well, yes .. a S-300 missile is not a very expensive drone ... very effective .. And then a new drone will fly from Turkey much faster than a new S-300 missile will sail from Russia ...))) Even in this simple arithmetic will break the Syrians ..)) not to mention the financial side of the issue ..

[Andre35]

Erdogan in Syria will do whatever he wants. CAA is not a hindrance to him. And we won’t be able to stop him, because he has our S 400 and the loan unpaid for them as a hostage.

[ABM]

With 400 with untrained Turkish staff a pile of iron. 2.5 billion out of 3 were given for them. They will not give the rest - the spare parts and missiles themselves will be mined

[dSK]

Quote: ABM

2.5 billion out of 3 were given for them.

Our VTB gave the plant - the Turks have not yet begun to repay the loan.

[Vitaly Tsymbal]

The Syrians do not have microwaves ????

[Vol4ara]

Quote: Vitaliy Tsymbal

The Syrians do not have microwaves ????

I really wanted to spoil the thermal imagers on your microwave ovens

[Vitaly Tsymbal]

It is difficult to communicate with a person who thinks only "liquid crap" - this is not an insult, it is simply that a microwave oven must be understood as the Yugoslav approach (in the Russian army they called it - cunning and ingenuity) in the fight against more modern types of technology ... although you dear Alexander hardly ever used a thermal imager.

[Vol4ara]

Quote: Vitaliy Tsymbal

It is difficult to communicate with a person who thinks only "liquid crap" - this is not an insult, it is simply that a microwave oven must be understood as the Yugoslav approach (in the Russian army they called it - cunning and ingenuity) in the fight against more modern types of technology ... although you dear Alexander hardly ever used a thermal imager.

And you write to Assad a letter, tell me there, and a copy in the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation. Only do not write about microwaves, they don’t understand

[Grits]

Quote: Vitaly Tsymbal

The Syrians do not have microwaves ????

So this is not Tomahawks - these are shells. In fact - a blank. They don’t care about the microwave

[Xenofont]

It seems to me that the situation is pretty lousy for us. The videoconferencing system has quieted down, in the south of Idlib, nusra is returning recently lost territories, the Turks are hammering with impunity from all trunks, and even our Needles cannot be handed out to units. It smells badly of a mixture of gas and crushed tomatoes: I hope that betrayal has a different smell.

[Arg107]

Well, why, not everything is so bad. Of course, there are no extravaganzas from +20 captured "strategically worthless" villages, like yesterday or the day before yesterday, but they are slowly approaching Jisr al-Shugur. They are standing in Serakib, shooting at Attarib. Give Bg, hold on to the old, take over the new. Let's clench our fists for the Syrians!

[Xenofont]

I would be glad to share your optimism ...

[donavi49]

And in the south of the campaign the defense of freshly occupied villages collapsed. The Babahs write that they have already entered Kafranbel. Last card -

[Arg107]

Even a layman can see that the Syrians are one step ahead, the initiative is in their hands, we will not rush, we will wait and see.

[Vol4ara]

Quote: Arg107

Even a layman can see that the Syrians are one step ahead, the initiative is in their hands, we will not rush, we will wait and see.

If this step is in front of the grave, then surely yes, they are one step ahead

[Xenofont]

Is there a feeling that at the wrong time the rotation of our advisers and staff was carried out? Mozh what mockers were sent from careerists without brains? No operation can do without ours, and therefore ....

[voyaka uh]

It's not about the staff. Turkey fights with modern precision weapons
with modern real-time combat guidance and control systems.
And the Syrian army - by grandfather's methods.

[Xenofont]

Are you hinting at the same in Russian? Maybe knowing all the conditions of the Syrian theater of war, factors of obsolete weapons are not taken into account, and our tactics are certainly dictated by their use. Yes, and there are MANPADS and ATGMs and so on, but coordinated actions in a fairly limited space cannot be achieved. Like in a rotten swamp: one leg extended, the other bogged down.

[alexmach]

Yes, and there are MANPADS and ATGMs and so on,

But where did they get MANPADS, after all, they fought against the broads, who had nothing but jihad mobiles and commercial drones. Their "shelled and battle-hardened" army faced serious air attacks for the first time, and for some reason it was a surprise for them - why is a good question.

Now the attack on Idlib itself looks more like an adventure.

[Xenofont]

Of course, I can’t say, but the military-technical cooperation with Syria has been going on for more than a decade, and this good could well have been transferred back in Soviet times.

[alexmach]

and this good could well convey back in Soviet times.

Transmitted in Soviet times, most likely it is no longer ready, And certainly it has not been properly serviced recently. And this is provided that it is generally preserved in the war that has been going on for 8 (?) Years.

[Xenofont]

This, of course, is easy, but our units certainly have these funds. After all, there is a whole regiment of marines deployed for protection.

[alexmach]

After all, there is a whole regiment of marines deployed for protection.

Where exactly? In Heimim and Tartus? So they seem to be well covered from the air.

[Xenofont]

They arrived with all regular means, including armored personnel carriers.

[Naive]

Just the same thing in the staff, or rather in the most important (staff), a couple of dozen words with the correct intonation would be enough for the Turks with their modern weapons to sit at home and the blood of the Syrian soldiers and on his hands.

[Kronos]

Well, after the words, let them just try everyone knows the prices of Putin’s warnings

[Ural resident]

Quote: Kronos

Well, after the words, let them just try everyone knows the prices of Putin’s warnings

We have known for a long time. About 5 years ago, the same thing happened with Novorossiya. The Security Council met - after that, everything changed immediately. The rhetoric became peace-loving, the junta became partners, the word Novorossiya was out of use at all, and they also asked Donbass not to vote for the exit. Who we have there is such a "dove" in the Security Council - and with a clear weight in his voice that the president himself is changing.

[Grits]

Quote: donavi49

And in the south of the campaign the defense of freshly occupied villages collapsed.

Who would defend them there? As they entered empty villages under peppy relations, they ran back as soon as the army appeared in front of

[aiden]

That would be to plant at least one, while there is an opportunity. Our defense enterprises would say thanks. But they don’t do anything at all. Neither air defense, nor electronic warfare, nor aerospace forces do not touch them.

[BREAKTHROUGH READY]

One has already been "planted", even in relatively good condition.
Only this will not give anything to defense enterprises, no secret super-technologies are used in UAVs.

[aiden]

And here is the correspondence from the whatsapp of the murdered Turkish invader: "Mom, we are fine, now we will throw the Syrians out of Idlib and then I will come home, we will have a wedding. We are building a new Ottoman empire here. The Syrians, Iranians and Russians are resisting us. But we are stronger. , have already destroyed 20 Russian armor, about 100 newest Russian armata tanks. The Ukrainian military helped us in this. This Russian armata is nonsense. Our Altai surpasses both the Armata and the Syrian T-90s. And also, Mom, our drones just hit the cross of the sight and the Russians are dropping bombs wherever they hit. Wait a second, Mom, it's whistling ..... ". On this message, the connection was lost.

[Kronos]

Why do fanfics post the Turks know that there aren’t any armatures there?

[aiden]

Well, you need to somehow answer the troll in his own language

[Chingachguk]

Nonsense of a drug addict.

[Chingachguk]

Hmm, it's hard to understand Russia's actions in Syria now ..... Syrians will get tired of hopelessness and what then? It will be a shame for Russia all over the world.

[Alexander Sharapov]

News from the Turkish region: The offensive of the Russian imperialists and pro-Russian militants of the so-called # SAA was drowned by our artillery, RZSO and UAV. As we said earlier, heaven plays a decisive role in modern warfare. Who has modern aviation and an air defense system that has an advantage in war.
As soon as our UAVs began to work in the sky over Idlib, the offensive of the pro-Russian militants # SAA not only choked, they even began to retreat under the onslaught of the Syrian National Army in the south of the Idlib de-escalation zone. Map of the military situation in the Idlib de-escalation zone on February 29. The M-5 highway no longer works. The #SNA fighters hold both the city and the highway, and even launched a counteroffensive in the south with the support of our artillery, RZSO, and of course the UAV, the pride of our military-industrial complex. Revenge will continue and this is only the beginning. While pro-Russian militants are washing away with their blood for the death of our military, it’s not only their fault for the death of our military Heroes of the Motherland but also of Russia led by the Putin regime, and we hope that Russia will soon pay with the blood of its military for the death of ours. Revenge will be blood for blood!

AND THESE FREEDOMS OUR GUARANTOR CALLS PARTNERS

[anjey]

Eh, A.V.Suvorova on Turkish pumpkins would now For the very tomatoes would have received janissaries.

[Saxahorse]

And who do we have today for Suvorov ????

[maiman61]

Suvorov had smart rulers.

[Alexey from Perm]

he has all partners, money doesn’t smell

[Grits]

Quote: Chingachguk

It will be a shame for Russia all over the world.

After this shame, it will be possible to curtail the bases in Tartus and Khmeimim and bring them home. In order not to disgrace further with his knickered from fear panties and complete inability to oppose something to the actions of the army waging war by modern means. Anyway, after Idlib is taken, the Turks, Americans and Jews, smelling easy prey, will tear Syria completely. And no one will protect her. Therefore, to drive us to their bases will be kicks. Such is the prevailing reality in recent days due to our cowardice or outright betrayal.

[Adimius38]

to suppress all these drones it is necessary, in some 100-140 km from our base, and let them understand why it fell

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

It seems that Turkey is jamming the radar of our Su-35 and ground-based air defense systems. Otherwise, I have no explanation why the UAV of Turkey is hosted in the sky of Syria, in the presence of S-400/300, BUKs and Panzer in that region, not counting the Su-30/35.

Well, Trump blocked the sale of F-35 to Turkey, otherwise our plane would have had to burn in the Syrian sky.

Just shame and shame, the third day, Syria is bleeding, and we can’t remove UAVs from Turkey from the sky.

Turkey has an army 8 times smaller than ours, but at that pace they alone will defeat us in the war, without NATO and without nuclear weapons.

[Zaurbek]

You need to bang a couple of untouchable artillery batteries. To do this, there is PointU ... then they will shoot less

[BREAKTHROUGH READY]

Are the UAVs going to shoot down too "Point-U"?

[Kapral Alphych]

Pass this above, because here, alas, there is no one to realize our "wishes"

[Grits]

Quote: Zaurbek

You need to bang a couple of untouchable artillery batteries. To do this, there is PointU ... then they will shoot less

Most likely there is simply no one to conduct reconnaissance and give target designation to the Points for these artillery batteries. And our promoted VKS are either treacherously waiting or simply not able to act for reasons unknown so far.
The reasons I think are. 1. The Turks scared that in the case of the departure of our aircraft, they will use all of their F-16s. And then nothing will remain of our group. 2. The Turks were able to completely suppress electronic warfare systems that fly in Idlib except themselves.

[Zaurbek]

Both UAVs and Tu214rts fly there and everything is known there. And judging by the video, the batteries there are not particularly worried about digging in and moving around.

[Grits]

Quote: Zaurbek

And judging by the video, the batteries there are not particularly worried about digging in and moving around.

So, they know for sure that they won’t beat them. The Syrians because there is no intelligence, and the Russians because they agreed. Looks like we don’t know very much.

[ochakow703]

"Attack drones attacked on Saturday night forward positions of the army and equipment in the area of ​​the city of Saraqib in Idlib province"
Something already tired of reading about it. But what about the "no-fly zone"? Does Syria even have air defense? This is pure insanity ... It's time to decide - we are for the beautiful, or for the smart.
TIRED !!! What are we all holding for suckers?

[Ural resident]

Quote: ochakow703

"Attack drones attacked on Saturday night forward positions of the army and equipment in the area of ​​the city of Saraqib in Idlib province"
Something already tired of reading about it. But what about the "no-fly zone"? Does Syria even have air defense? This is pure insanity ... It's time to decide - we are for the beautiful, or for the smart.
TIRED !!! What are we all holding for suckers?

Honestly just no words. Maybe we really have some kind of coup at the top - all replaced with reptilians ?. For in the head it all does not fit. Unless this is an attempt to stand aside - like letting the Turks let off steam, and we have nothing to do with it. At the launch site of the MANPADS, obviously our fabs launched, then everyone dumped the Syrians - beat them a bit, and then we will agree. And how else to understand all this ...

[silverura]

In my opinion it smells like a "kid" in relation to the SA. And everything began as pathetic, and how many competitors there were - Vanga about some cunning plan, up to the hysterical use of tactical nuclear weapons. How huge is the technological rift between the opposing forces. That is, in fact, the UAV plays a key role in local wars. The accuracy of adjustments and strikes is amazing, unless of course this is a video dummy. Straight some kind of contactless battle)

[otstoy]

Villages captured by anti-Assad groups today:
Mashik, Ziyarah, Zaytoun, Qastoun, Tall Wasel, Mansoura, Duqmaq, Qulaydin, Zuqum, Al-Qahirah, Al-Ankawi, Al-Hallubah, Quqfin, Kafr Uwayd, Maarrat Muqs, Safahun, Al-Fatirah, Dayr al-Kab Hazzarin

[Leshy1975]

Quote: otstoy

Villages captured by anti-Assad groups today:
Mashik, Ziyarah, Zaytoun, Qastoun, Tall Wasel, Mansoura, Duqmaq, Qulaydin, Zuqum, Al-Qahirah, Al-Ankawi, Al-Hallubah, Quqfin, Kafr Uwayd, Maarrat Muqs, Safahun, Al-Fatirah, Dayr al-Kab Hazzarin

Please do not show this map here. Because over the past few days, precisely for the liberation of these territories, several button accordions were torn and an uncountable number of toasts were raised in connection with another "victory". And what, you want to say that all these "victims" on the site were in vain ?! Please do not upset gamers when the victory was already practically in their pocket. It's all nasty Erdogashka's fault. After all, all the jingoistic patriots clearly knew and argued that he had to chicken out. And you see what the scoundrel has in mind, ruined the whole song.

PS However, these gentlemen will find new button accordions and a new victory. Walk like a walk!

[Grits]

Quote: otstoy

Villages captured by anti-Assad groups today:

They were captured just as they were captured by the SAA two days earlier.

[maiman61]

Sultanchik oak! I think he’ll soon tie a hemp tie.

[Gennady Fomkin]

Great Turkey will not work. Her song seems to be sung!

[Maz]

Quote: voyaka uh

The Russians had a clear underestimation of the military-industrial complex of Turkey, and Turkish industry in general.

We still did not undertake them. if only every rot from the Golan Heights would not interfere ...

[Maz]

Quote: donavi49

And in the south of the campaign the defense of freshly occupied villages collapsed. The Babahs write that they have already entered Kafranbel. Last card -

just tigers were transferred to seracib

[Glory Ponomarev]

Where the Turks also gouged them, these blue marks on the M5 highway are just Turkish attacks on the Tigers columns.

[Grits]

Quote: Maz

just tigers were transferred to seracib

Just besides the Tigers, there’s nothing to fight. Therefore, the Tigers will now be crushed in the battles of Serakib, and then the Barmalei will parade march to Damascus itself without resistance. And our VKS will be afraid to hit them - God forbid they hit the Turk - they will demolish Khmeimim in response. With such pathos, the stronghold of our military power has been created that this cannot be allowed to happen. Are the barbecue men brought in by green buses preparing to return to their homes?

[Angrybeard]

Not really and holds. Quietly squeeze. The sky is quiet. Air defense is also silent. In such circumstances, the Sadiks did not have to fight, I’m not sure that they calculated everything.
Of course we support Syria, but we have a mandate to fight the terrorist. And when there is aggression of the NATO country, then a direct clash is ruled out. Ikhtamnet, yes, but with strong local infantry. And with this the nuances. And Syria does not have broad support against the Turks. If only China or Egypt, but in this case even Iran took a break.
Question only where Perdogan sees the finish line. On the line of 18 years, or a Turkish rag over the ruins of Damascus.

[ShM05]

When the country's leadership conducts foreign and domestic policies not in the interests of the state and people, but for the profit of a handful of people, we will always be poked in. In the VK thematic groups, news about the battles in the idlib appears every half hour. With evidence, etc., at the moment the situation of the Syrian army is catastrophic, they have been making positions for 3 days already, if until March 5, before the meeting between Putin and Erdogan, if the VKS watch the Syrians being beaten, then the ATS will not have armored vehicles at all. With such an ally and enemies inappropriately

[Dave36]

You should have known that ISIS is the brainchild of Turkey and you will have to fight with them. And the street apparently did not teach anything. A sad horse will apologize and rub off, how long and familiar already

[Kapral Alphych]

So far, the position of our country is absolutely not clear. The attack of the convoy, of course, showed our strengths and capabilities, but did not instruct the Turks, and moreover, for the Syrian, it turned out to be a lot of losses both in manpower and in technology (if you believe the Turkish chronicle, although you really can’t believe it even if Russia 1 and Anna News talked about it).
I think everyone is waiting for the meeting of the presidents. Only now the Turks are gaining points before it, while ours are waiting for something. But, I hope, the answer will be. Not for nothing that the Caliber drove up, and they say they threw dryers, and the sunbeams. The gun is loaded, but it’s not clear what will fire.

[Ural resident]

Quote: Kapral Alphitch

So far, the position of our country is absolutely not clear. The attack of the convoy, of course, showed our strengths and capabilities, but did not instruct the Turks, and moreover, for the Syrian, it turned out to be a lot of losses both in manpower and in technology (if you believe the Turkish chronicle, although you really can’t believe it even if Russia 1 and Anna News talked about it).
I think everyone is waiting for the meeting of the presidents. Only now the Turks are gaining points before it, while ours are waiting for something. But, I hope, the answer will be. Not for nothing that the Caliber drove up, and they say they threw dryers, and the sunbeams. The gun is loaded, but it’s not clear what will fire.

The calibers were adjusted so that our bases did not have anyone who thought of attacking. If this does not happen, they will safely go back.

[Alexey from Perm]

ours know that we can not oppose anything to them, and they want to agree better — our oil and gas are all ..

[Grits]

Quote: Kapral Alphich

while ours are still waiting for something.

Pants wash.

[Kapral Alphych]

If only in high offices.

[Grits]

Quote: Kapral Alphich

If only in high offices.

Exactly there. I am sure that the men themselves are shocked at Khmeimim - they do not give an order to wet the barmalei, who had been ironed for many years before that. And they understand perfectly well that this smells of frank fraud and betrayal of the Syrians.

[opuonmed]

until Syria fell but the winner is not the same?

[faterdom]

To all who minus me - listen to Satanovsky on TVC. He clearly outlines how and to whom Erdogan screwed up around. And at the same time.
Cyprus, Libya, Syria, Americans, Europeans, Israel, Iran, Egypt - and, modestly so, Russia in addition.
Only Ukraine is happy, but they are glad to any excitement so that not only them.

[Leshy1975]

Quote: faterdom

To all who minus me - listen to Satanovsky on TVC. He clearly outlines how and to whom Erdogan screwed up around. And at the same time.
Cyprus, Libya, Syria, Americans, Europeans, Israel, Iran, Egypt - and, modestly so, Russia in addition.
Only Ukraine is happy, but they are glad to any excitement so that not only them.

I ask you, do not trust any of the pro-government "analysts". Remember how many noodles they hung on us, telling us about Ukraine for several years in a row. Which, according to their forecasts, should have frozen and disintegrated long ago. I also listened to them at first, and then when I realized that my ears were like Cheburashka's, and all the noodles did not fit, I threw all their predictions out of my head. For budget money, they will tell you what they want and explain, but for some reason they don't come true. Do you want good analytics - Lev Vershinin (Putnik1). The person actually correctly predicted the course of many events, incl. and across Ukraine back in 2014, when it all began. But reading is hard and mentally painful. We still have many hardships to endure and bear. But it's better this way than listening to sweet flattery and fantasies. You can still read El-Murid, he does not look far, but as an operational analyst, it is quite real.

[Fishery]

it’s just that a less or less adversary with a regular army appeared, the victorious relay ended immediately, Turkish drones are not alien technologies, and the VKS of the Russian Federation do not have those either, though they say that generals always prepare for the last war

[Angrybeard]

Obviously we are behind. No drone drone for many years, and so far only words that will be soon. And the Turks gained experience for many years. We are there with a cast-iron sword, but here one rocket - one tank. I have the impression that the defeat of the SAA is an indicative flogging not of Syria, but of our generals. After this, I think our partially curtailed. For so far, it turns out that the third day we threw an ally, although in reality, well, not include nuclear weapons.
Why the Syrians do not have military air defense in 5 years, and a dozen or two modern points at least, not to mention the Iskanders, is also a big question for our geniuses. Now it's too late. Now only dig trenches and wait for the negotiations to end. On March 5, the CAA may have very miserable positions for them. Well, we seem to have washed our hands .. because we were not ready for the aggression of NATO troops. Without a plan, without support.

[Fishery]

you must be able to dig trenches, the Soviet army also dug them at 45, because the German attack aircraft snarled to the last, and the Syrians apparently did not allow the mentality to pick up a shovel

[Grits]

Quote: Angrybeard

I have the impression that the defeat of the SAA is an indicative flogging not of Syria, but of our generals.

This can be written in the devastating defeat of our army. And let many here prove that we did not fight directly - the fact remains. And after a few days in all the media and world social networks, hooting and mockery of our glorious army will begin.
This is a complete defeat and complete disgrace.

[Dave36]

Yes, they will squeeze out the Asadites .. Vova will again show weakness, as he did more than once. Still used to the Jews figachat Damascus, in fact they landed our silt, so what? Mashakalinkazakhvrova will sing something and fse ..

[Serge_]

The time is now that you need to fight with the mind and cunning. Yesterday I watched a speech at the UN Security Council, and I realized that the Turks had been broken in revealingly. But Erdogan did not understand the hints. That is why I am sure that the next indicative and powerful response to the Turks is being prepared. But such as to prevent the beginning of the Third World War. Ours will still show themselves, there is no doubt about that. This time, Erdogan does not get off with tomatoes in Syria. Turks need to be beaten according to all the canons of military art of the 21st century. Accurately, powerfully and revealingly, the whole world is watching. And the Syrians need to hold on, to survive. This is their country and native land.

[cat Rusich]

"... accurate, powerful and indicative ..." - to spend a vacation in Crimea ... The blow to the "bag" is the most painful -

[Serge_]

I see the results from the beginning of the operation in Syria of a limited contingent of the Russian army. Do you see them or not? Erdogan does not directly accuse Russia of hitting the Turkish military. And all why, because Russia has to be reckoned with. As Ilya Krugley recently correctly wrote, - Everyone has already understood that Moscow will not stand on ceremony with the terrorists in Idlib and those who support them, even if it turns out to be the Turkish military. Damascus did not just risk it. He apparently had confidence that even if Turkey was on the verge of a war with the Russian Federation, nobody would touch Moscow anyway.

[cat Rusich]

My comment about a vacation in Crimea is about the fact that we (Russia) will "dog" with the "Sultan", but Russians leave a lot, a lot of $ in Turkish Antalya. First, the "light-colored tourist" leaves the "Turkish coast", then with the "sultan" you can talk "whose cones are in the forest." About Idlib - Turkish armored vehicles had to be "burned" immediately after crossing the Syrian state border, at first at night without crews, and then with crews on the march. No negotiations on the division of areas of responsibility with Turkey, all who do not destroy the Syrian government troops throughout the Syrian land, this is also a conversation about those who hide behind the "Stars and Stripes". Another "favorite corn of the Sultan" - Kurdistan, "help" the Kurds (behind the scenes), let "the Sultan extinguish the fire at home" and not "throw firewood into the Syrian fire."

[Serge_]

If the conflict in Syria continues, difficult times will come for Turkey. Tourists do not like to relax in countries that are in a state of hostilities.

[Grits]

Quote: Serge_

Turks need to be beaten according to all the canons of military art of the 21st century. Accurately, powerfully and revealingly, the whole world is watching.

While happening exactly the opposite. It seems ours are completely at a loss

[Garris199]

Some nonsense. The Syrians nominally have both Armor and Buki and S-300. UAVs can and should be destroyed. Let's say that the Syrians are shooting down. Business then.

[faterdom]

Quote: Leshy1975

Please do not trust any of the pro-government "analysts"

I ask you - I can decide for myself who to trust. I have my own wealth of experience to compare officialdom with reality.
You can not listen to Satanovsky ... He exaggerates a lot, often likes to speak flowery and allegorically, but sets out the essence. There are basic contradictions that have now converged on Turkey, and this wrecked tank will hiccup for it for a long time. This is unambiguous.

[Leshy1975]

Quote: faterdom

Quote: Leshy1975

Please do not trust any of the pro-government "analysts"

I ask you - I can decide for myself who to trust. I have my own wealth of experience to compare officialdom with reality.
You can not listen to Satanovsky ... He exaggerates a lot, often likes to speak flowery and allegorically, but sets out the essence. There are basic contradictions that have now converged on Turkey, and this wrecked tank will hiccup for it for a long time. This is unambiguous.

It was just advice, quite sincere and kind. Of course you decide.

[Alexey from Perm]

But where are the Shantyzir armor? drones fly, and destroy the equipment of the Syrians)))

[lvov_aleksey]

I am not subject to various nonsense, my opinion is that Erdogan is not a politician - a military commander, I already know more than 3 of them: Yeltsin, Yanukovych, Poroshenko, Saakashvili, etc.

[otstoy]

Assad has only one chance. If he is sane, then he has half an hour to accept Erdogan’s terms. He will lose Idlib (which is already lost), but retain the throne under his fifth point.

[Serge_]

External players will resolve issues with Turkey and the United States on the territory of the sovereign state of Syria, and will also deal with the issue of the Golan Heights. Everything has its time.

[Serge_]

Along Russia, in the world there are still EU states and China. To avoid the influx of Syrian refugees, the EU may well help resolve some issues in Syria. Of course, not directly, but indirectly.

[Kronos]

The EU will not stand on the side of Russia, and China, it is not actively harnessed to political squabbles

[Serge_]

The EU pursues its carrot and stick policy towards Turkey. And a pretty successful policy.
And the EU has long wanted to close the issue of migration flows from the countries of the Middle East, so it is safe to say that they will put pressure on Turkey. After all, it’s actually she stirs up water.

[Serge_]

Problems with refugees.
Greece sent 50 naval vessels and special forces to curb the flow of refugees from Turkey, closing the border after Ankara said it allowed refugees to go to Europe.

Greek Prime Minister Kyriakos Mitsotakis said “there will be no illegal entry into Greece,” noting a significant tightening of security along the EU’s external borders.

Bulgaria has also begun to take additional security measures, increasing patrols along the border areas with Turkey.

[Serge_]

Turkey missed more than 47 thousand migrants into the EU.
Turkish Interior Minister Suleiman Soilu said that more than 47 refugees crossed the Turkish border with the EU.

“As of 23.50, the number of refugees who left our country through Edirne is 47 thousand 113 people,” TASS quoted the minister as saying.

According to a Turkish official, Ankara decided not to stop the Syrian refugees who seek to get to Europe by sea or land. Employees of the Turkish police, coast guard and border checkpoints have been instructed not to impede the passage of migrants in the event of a flow of refugees from Syria, reports Reuters.

The day before, Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan announced a decision to open borders with the European Union for migrants from Syria. On the same day, migrants tried to enter Greece, using Turkish-made tear gas grenades.

Recall, after the aggravation of the situation in Idlib, Turkey stated that it would stop restraining the flow of Syrian migrants to Europe.

[Grits]

Assad seems to have time to ask for Rostov. It was as a military defender that Russia turned out to be a useless and treacherous ally.

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

I have only one question: why ours cannot shoot down Turkish UAVs in the Syrian sky ?!

[otstoy]

Because the shell has a range of 20 km, and from Khmeimim to the nearest Idlib, 2 times further.

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

Because the shell has a range of 20 km, and from Khmeimim to the nearest Idlib, 2 times further.

Well, you are a strategist, you would be in the General Staff.

Do you know that the Shell, like the BUK as well as the S-300, is a mobile air defense system / air defense system and it will cover a distance of 40 km in 30 minutes, and can shoot on the move ?!

And yes, Syria has these complexes - dozens of pieces !!!!

[otstoy]

I know. While the carapace is in Hmeimim, it stands on the territory agreed with the Turks, which they do not touch. And near Idlib, he will be another target for the Turkish UAV, which they will immediately eliminate. In extreme cases, drowned out by a howitzer. How this happens, we have seen over the past 2 days. Do you personally agree to burn out for Assad’s ambitions? I hope that among our military there are no such suicide bombers.

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

You do not know the situation at all !!!

The Syrian army has 50 shells of its own, not counting other air defense systems and it is these complexes that must fight UAVs, knocking them to a distance from which they will not be able to use their adjusted bombs.

UAVs in Turkey Anka-S can use adjustable bombs from a distance of 6-9 km, and the Shell should shoot down UAVs from a distance many times greater.

And since Russia declared itself an ally of Syria and the sky over Syria is a useless zone, then we are simply obliged to shoot down Turkish UAVs, even if passing it off as Syrian actions.

What is happening in Idlib is just the shame and disgrace of Russia.

[Grits]

Quote: otstoy

And near Idlib, he will be another target for the Turkish UAV, which they will immediately eliminate.

An interesting one-way war turns out. Turkey can destroy the Russian carapace on the land of Syria, and Russia cannot destroy the Turkish artillery on the land of Syria. I wonder who invented such rules? If in any war we adhere to such strange rules, we will always be the loser. However, already ...

[gohomeyanki]

There wasn’t such a task, and they ... they just watched the type, and Turkey has observation posts for this.

[Salty]

Oh, God ... they can, but they won’t bring down until they fight the Turks. But it’s completely unnecessary to fight the Turks, they need to be forced to peace, on our terms.

[Kronos]

While they will be forced to peace, they can destroy most of the Syrian army, after which all the fruits of military efforts will be lost

[Salty]

Quote: Kronos

they can destroy most of the Syrian army

And they may not destroy it. The basis for conclusions is too small, let's wait until tomorrow and see what happened there.

[BREAKTHROUGH READY]

Nothing will be lost. The most repulsed radicals have already been destroyed, Turkish puppets will not stick out from Idlib, Assad has also been trying to make friends with Kurds for a long time.
In total, Syria will not return to the former borders in the foreseeable future, but the available 2/3 of the country is more than enough to establish a peaceful life.
My nobody needed on the Internet the opinion is that it is time for Assad and Russia to end the civil war in Syria, while there is a real opportunity for this.

[otstoy]

Now it’s also possible to force Erdogan to make a player fold 6 trump cards and 4 aces. He broke the bank and will now play as he sees fit.

[Grits]

Quote: SaltY

But it’s completely unnecessary to fight the Turks, they need to be forced to peace, on our terms.

So far, I see that the Turks forced Syria and us on their own terms.

[BREAKTHROUGH READY]

Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan

why ours cannot bring down UAVs of Turkey in the Syrian sky ?!

Because Russia cannot afford to have a snack with Turkey, which may not be clear here. Probably, initially they did not take Erdogan’s threats about the direct intervention of the Turkish army seriously, they thought that they fed him enough with gas pipes and s-400, but it turned out - it seemed.

[iouris]

Port Arthur is an unlearned lesson in Russian history.

[otstoy]

It is more likely not Port Arthur, but Chemulpo. Thanks to the Turks for not being as treacherous as the Japanese.

[Serge_]

While there is a "serious war" on Twitter, it is reported that 14 cruise missiles crossed the mid section over the Syrian coast line and landed in #Idlib
The missile attacks reported in Idlib were probably launched from the sea.
Gauges?

[Alexander Sharapov]

Something like this they write:

[Alexander Sharapov]

Something like this: Military source of the SAA: “SAA units attacked several firing positions near Sarakib at the same time as massive air strikes by the Syrian air force and Russian air forces on the positions of terrorists in the region."
https://vk.com/video-165034379_456242363

[HaByxoDaBHocep]

The Turks asked our guarantor to open the sky for drones and have been hammering the Syrians for two days, some strange coincidence
https://yandex.ru/turbo?text=https%3A%2F%2Fria.ru%2F20200227%2F1565286183.html
https://yandex.ru/turbo?text=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rbc.ru%2Frbcfreenews%2F5e57d7919a7947c72f3ff1f1

[UltraTotenkopF]

Quote: gmb

You think too well of them, what they think. If Assad had thought, he would not have crushed the Sunnis like his dad, the time and the numerical ratio of the communities would have changed. Saddam would not stand on the podium with a rifle and would not capture Kuwait. Iran is trying to ruin itself with a nuclear program and the fight for Shiism in everything the world. Jordan was spinning at first so that neighbors, Syria and Iraq, then the Palestinians did not capture, and now maneuvers, between its population and the newcomer, refugees from Syria and Palestinians. Egypt fights poverty and Muslim brothers, whose militants hid in Gaza through tunnels, and the previous president was their representative. Lebanon was tortured by Hezbollah and Iran, and corruption with clanism is directly related to religious affiliation.

Dear, stop everyone here to engage in the Khazar-Ukrainian and Turkish theme that there is a war between Syrians and Shiites in Syria, this is horse ravings, 74% of Sunnis in Syria, and only 13% of Shiites, Alawites and others, the backbone of the ATS army is Sunnis, draw conclusions who is fighting and with whom, and what are the interests of different players!

[atalef]

Quote: UltraTotenkopF

the backbone of the SAR army is Sunnis, draw conclusions

Anegdot.
The backbone of Assad’s army is the Alawites + Shiites of Lebanon. Iran. Afghanistan, Iraq.
There is no smell of Sunnis there.

[Chaldon48]

Macron said NATO’s brain has died.

[Alexey G]

Need to disable Turkish drones! Krauha where are you dear ??? Armor and Torah where are you? Shoot down all spotters and drummers !!!

[high]

Quote: donavi49

Hezbollah is the best light infantry in Syria. And their small detachments are more valuable than tigers. .

You would explain that Arab countries and many Western countries consider Hezbollah to be terrorists .....

[Ross xnumx]

Meanwhile, Western Web users and readers of foreign media are increasingly perplexed and wonder why Turkey can "host" in the territory of a foreign state, directly calling Erdogan "crazy."

I appreciated this:

Kedmi described how Russia can force Turkey not only to stop shelling government positions in Idlib, but to leave Syria forever. We are not even talking about a military solution to the problem. Moscow will not need to use its military to drive Ankara into a corner. Kedmi is confident that Russia should only threaten Turkey with a large-scale strike against the positions of terrorist groups.
“There is no need to fight. He (Erdogan) will not fight with Russia. But by threatening to fight, yes. Tell him to get out. If you don't get out, we'll attack the terrorists. And just try to get at least one plane into the air. Just try to help them. And if there is even one shot from the Turkish artillery, we will suppress it. Otherwise you can’t deal with them,” Kedmi said....

Source: https://politpuzzle.ru/158777-kedmi-rasskazal-kak-rossiya-mozhet-zastavit-turtsiyu-pokinut-siriyu-navsegda/
Judging by comments and statements, the Israeli Yakov Kedmi is a greater Russian than some Russian officials and functionaries.

[honest people]

Turkish UAV

[Visavi]

Colleagues, we should pay attention to the details and the close-up. What do we know about the details? Few. 1) 27.02.2020/2/14. "Russia and Turkey are negotiating the opening of Syrian airspace for Turkish unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs). This was stated by Turkish Defense Minister Hulusi Akar." As you and I understand, we have agreed.3) Despite the fact that only one thing was officially reported downed a Turkish drone, it became known that in fact, Turkey has lost at least 1 of its drones over the past two weeks. But exclusively by Syrian air defense forces. 2018) According to preliminary data, the Russian Pantsir air defense missile systems demonstrate the best results. Although there is information about the effectiveness from our experts: “On July 2, 2,5, the first UAV raid was carried out, and three vehicles from the UAV group managed to fly up to the territory of the Russian base and drop nine improvised explosive devices. Immediately after the start of the attack, the Tor-M3U crew detected targets and hit four UAVs with five anti-aircraft guided missiles at altitudes of 1-12 kilometers. In turn, Pantsir-S4 shot down three more drones, but used as many as 1 missiles for this.” Therefore, we can assume that more than one UAV was shot down by Syria. 26) We simply do not know what the military of the two countries agreed on. Therefore, we express a storm of emotions and misunderstanding. Why did everything start to happen like this? Briefly about the close-up 2015) On August 2, 3, an Agreement was concluded between Russia and Syria on the deployment of an aviation group of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation on Syrian territory, and this was a time when Turkey was an openly hostile state. 2015) Today Turkey is a major economic partner, a country that is introducing elements of division into the ranks of NATO. 2020) In this situation, there is no clear choice of which side to take, to what extent to interact, etc. I, colleagues, do not draw a conclusion, I simply draw attention to the “three ages of OKINI SAN”. The first was in XNUMX, the second is now, in XNUMX, the third? It's time to end the comment).

[Fentox]

Where are the Pantsiri and S-300?

[Fentox]

It turns out that any country can invade a neighboring one with its regular army in order to protect the local opposition. That is, it turns out that Russia can openly interfere with Ukraine.

[Fishery]

operation in Crimea) openly and got in, they were just shy at first, making fools of people.

[Bratkov Oleg]

Ukraine brazenly got into Crimea, with the hands of Khrushchev, plus Yeltsin’s help, but finally these monkeys were kicked out of there.

[Fishery]

This is just an advertisement for the work of drones, now everyone understands that they need to be taken into account and not threaten America with cartoons, Turkish UAVs are a nightmare) it turns out the Turks know how to grow tomatoes and make drones)))

[Oquzyurd]

When others were sunbathing on the beaches and thinking that the most beautiful word in the world was “thump,” the Turks developed the military-industrial complex and technology.

[Camille]

Bunların gözü götürmür nə türkləri nə də bizi.

[Serge_]

/sg/ SOURIA GENERAL

@SyriaGeneral

#Syria #Idlib #IdlibBattle #IdlibDawn Tiger Forces Field Commander Saraqib / Saraqeb has become under control of the Syrian Armed Forces

اصبحناواصبح الملك لله
واصبحت سراقب بقبضه
نمور الفرقه 25
فولو الله يا رجال
11:49 AM Mar 1, 2020 Twitter for iPhone

Tigers took Saraqib!

[vvdan_vo]

The best air defense is to destroy the enemy airfield.

[Camille]

The Turkish army attacked the Nayrab military airfield in the southeast of the Syrian province of Aleppo, Anadolu reports.

According to the information, the military facility was actively used by the forces of Bashar al-Assad when organizing attacks. It is noted that the attack on the airfield was carried out on Saturday by attack drones and artillery of the Turkish Armed Forces. The agency does not provide any other details.

Earlier on Sunday, the Turkish Ministry of Defense confirmed information about the destruction of two Su-24 front-line bombers of the Syrian Air Force in the skies over Idlib.

[TatarinSSSR]

The situation is painfully reminiscent of the one when Ukrainian troops and national battalions were on the outskirts of Lugansk and on the outskirts of Donetsk - everyone was screaming heart-rendingly - “Putin, send in the troops!” But the Russian troops did not cross the border and did not enter the battle. But a whole string of experienced and professional “retired volunteers” began to appear; the militias suddenly suddenly acquired a variety of modern weapons, from machine guns and sniper guns to ATGMs and MANPADS. They sent medicines, ammunition, equipment, electric generators and even correction and reconnaissance UAVs. And the Ukrainians suddenly hit a wall. And they began to receive boilers. They began to die in batches. And scramble back. Now it’s the same thing - “Help Putin! Save the Syrian army from the Turks!” But Putin reacts with restraint. No military action against the Turks. Apart from random. For shelling from MANPADS. And that’s purely from angry pilots. And for Peshkov. It would seem that Moscow has merged. But.... And yet the Syrian army continues to fight. Silently. Evil. Doesn't run from the battlefield. And here it’s worth thinking about. That in addition to the shakozakitel's armchair warriors, clear and verified work is being carried out behind the scenes. A work whose goal is to put Erdogan, who has gone too far and has gone off the rails, into a stall. Where he belongs. But not with the help of bombing and leveling Turkey off the face of the earth with Calibers. There's more precise work there. Surgical. Not noticeable. But everyone will see the results soon. So you should take everything calmly and leave your emotions for joyful occasions.