Ukrainian authorities refuse to celebrate Victory Day on May 9

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Ukrainian authorities refuse to celebrate Victory Day on May 9

Ukraine will not celebrate Victory Day on May 9, the country has another holiday - Day of Remembrance and Reconciliation, which is celebrated on May 8. This was stated in an interview with Ukraine 24 TV channel by the Minister of Foreign Affairs of the country Vadim Priestayko.

Our position now remains as it is: no, we are not going to celebrate May 9th. We, like the entire European continent, in 75 years are ready to understand why this tragedy occurred, and we are ready to forgive each other. We believe that celebration should go in that direction.

- he said.



Recall that in Ukraine Victory Day May 9 is not celebrated since 2015, when the corresponding law was adopted. From the same year, a new holiday was introduced according to the Western European model - the Day of Remembrance and Reconciliation, during which all official events are held.

Last year, then-President Poroshenko, speaking on May 8 at the First Minute of Peace rally dedicated to the Day of Victory over Nazism, said that Ukraine had developed its own script and ritual for celebrating Victory Day in World War II over the past five years, coming close to pan-European tradition. According to him, the Ukrainians distanced themselves from the “Kremlin triumph”, which appropriated the common victory of the anti-Hitler coalition over Nazism. The procession of the immeasurable regiment Poroshenko called "the march of the mummers."

According to the Ukrainian authorities, several generations of Ukrainians were brought up on a “carefully retouched version of the Great Patriotic War,” but recent events in the country “revealed the truth to the people” that the Soviet authorities were hiding.
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  1. +70
    29 February 2020 16: 05
    So they ended up defeating the Nazis in 2014, and it was not for them to celebrate Victory Day over the Nazis. request
    1. +16
      29 February 2020 16: 14
      I completely agree with you, colleague. There is nothing to add.
      1. +4
        29 February 2020 17: 26
        So the authorities refuse.
        1. +11
          29 February 2020 22: 33
          Devils do not celebrate Easter.
    2. +22
      29 February 2020 16: 18
      The Ukrainian elite does not hide its fascist essence and for this it is necessary to punish .. further it will be worse the United States is already forming a new Reich from the Slavic states, I have no doubt that in the end, Ukraine, Poland and other servants will be sent to war with us .. So what are we waiting for .. it is necessary to press in the bud, and then a fine fellow was formed, a little more and he will become a "man" ..
      1. +9
        29 February 2020 16: 31
        So in the late 30s, the FSA and Little Hitler completely sponsored and promoted to power, they are doing the same on the outskirts, only then Germany had the strength and now the newly made Western Reich draws maximum to its miserable likeness.
        1. +17
          29 February 2020 16: 33
          Quote: Incvizitor
          So in the late 30s, the FSA and Hitler’s Melka were fully sponsored and promoted to power, they are doing the same thing now.

          It’s not possible to ignore this fact .. It’s very dangerous and serious, any respected state is obliged to have adequate neighbors around itself .. and for many years now we have been watching how fascists rage and are preparing to fight us .. theater of the absurd ..
          1. +1
            29 February 2020 17: 16
            Let them only dare to fight.
          2. +4
            29 February 2020 17: 37
            the world has changed. as everyone’s attitude towards him. Nobody can change this until the rivers of blood spill again. mankind always walks in circles.
          3. -1
            29 February 2020 19: 46
            Quote: Svarog
            hi
            Quote: Incvizitor
            So in the late 30s, the FSA and Hitler’s Melka were fully sponsored and promoted to power, they are doing the same thing now.

            It’s not possible to ignore this fact .. It’s very dangerous and serious, any respected state is obliged to have adequate neighbors around itself .. and for many years now we have been watching how fascists rage and are preparing to fight us .. theater of the absurd ..

            This is not absurd. A specially planned operation. The question is different. With our hands, do drivers still plan for a long time not to really plan anything about this? Although it’s better late than never. At least five years later it came to the point that people need to be given citizenship. Didn’t it reach right away?
            Fascism, a TV show with Solovyov cannot be defeated. So it’s clear to scream and nothing more.
            1. +11
              29 February 2020 19: 52
              Quote: Observer2014
              .Although five years later it came to the point that citizenship should be given to people. Didn’t it immediately reach?

              These are all belated half measures .. the guarantor has such a style ..
              1. -1
                29 February 2020 21: 50
                It is time to take the word guarantor in quotation marks. Who agrees?
        2. 0
          29 February 2020 20: 10
          Quote: Incvizitor
          So in the late 30s, the FSA and Little Hitler completely sponsored and promoted to power, they are doing the same on the outskirts, only then Germany had the strength and now the newly made Western Reich draws maximum to its miserable likeness.

          Germany in the late 30s was building muscles quietly with external assistance.
          Help includes military orders, when the development of your army is limited.
          So now it is building up the potential of the system, for example, submarines capable of carrying nuclear weapons
          including for Israel and supplies them for reparations (!).
          History provides a second lesson for the dull.
      2. -14
        29 February 2020 16: 44
        Quote: Svarog
        The Ukrainian elite does not hide its fascist nature and it must be punished .. it will be worse then the United States is already forming a new Reich from the Slavic states

        This is already scary, but more scary if it's true. Today, February 29, on the anniversary of the murder of an ardent opponent of the Putin regime, Boris Nemtsov, marches in his memory were held in the largest cities of Russia. More than 25 thousand people came to the rally in Moscow. The video was published by the Ukrainian Dialogue Telegram channel.
        1. +9
          29 February 2020 16: 59
          Even the Echo of Moscow gave 20 thousand police gave 10 thousand, so cut a little sturgeon .... This is a miser for Moscow))
          1. +4
            29 February 2020 17: 28
            Quote: yaros
            Even the Echo of Moscow gave 20 thousand police gave 10 thousand, so cut a little sturgeon .... This is a miser for Moscow))

            Is there a financial crisis in the West? There was no more money for extras? Or fools diminished?
          2. 0
            29 February 2020 18: 59
            Quote: yaros
            Even the Echo of Moscow gave 20 thousand police gave 10 thousand, so cut a little sturgeon .... This is a miser for Moscow))

            Now, the Sumerians write it, and in other sites even more, and the Sumerian people rejoice and believe in everything, and you will not prove them otherwise. So the situation there is no longer festive.
        2. +3
          29 February 2020 17: 09
          Nemtsov is who?
          1. +4
            29 February 2020 20: 00
            Quote: 4ekist
            Nemtsov is who?

            hi
            Soap bubble with rainbow stains. But for want of a better one, this one also fit.
          2. +3
            29 February 2020 20: 48
            This dude, whose only useful achievement in this life is to die on the opposite bank of the Moscow River from the Kremlin.
            1. +3
              29 February 2020 21: 22
              In addition to the loud statement, I did not remember anything to transfer officials from Mercedes to the domestic Volga. Except empty statements he did nothing. But he was an ideological "democrat".
          3. -1
            29 February 2020 23: 26
            Quote: 4ekist
            Nemtsov is who?

            The banner of the democrats and liberals.
        3. +4
          29 February 2020 17: 38
          I beg you))) only those who went there know about it) that, for example, on the scale of the capital, there is only one laugh)
        4. 0
          29 February 2020 21: 52
          Quote: tihonmarine
          The video was published by the Ukrainian Dialogue Telegram channel.

          There are not enough de bills, imported ones crying
        5. -1
          1 March 2020 10: 20
          Quote: tihonmarine
          The video was published by the Ukrainian Dialogue Telegram channel.

          In the photo, unity with Bandera. These are not Russians with such a slogan. Russian and Bandera are not on the way.
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            1. +8
              29 February 2020 18: 23
              Grandchildren have adopted !? Of course. In your ruin.
        2. 0
          29 February 2020 17: 30
          (Vasya) is it on your avatar not like rotten "Ukraine" !?
        3. +4
          29 February 2020 17: 41
          and your opinion, excuse me, someone asked?))) we who we want to be ourselves and consider) if you have this definition of fascism, then I am sorry for your teachers. which could not be put into an empty head of elementary things)
        4. +3
          29 February 2020 20: 03
          Quote: DRM
          DRM


          Run, Vasya, run and do not look back, you are a stranger and unnecessary here. negative
      4. -1
        29 February 2020 17: 40
        I doubt about the fight
    3. +10
      29 February 2020 16: 42
      And it’s very good that they don’t celebrate! There is nothing to paw this holiday with dirty paws! And let UIA suffer further .. Soon it will reach the concentration camps and gas chambers, and that’s how it should be ..
    4. +8
      29 February 2020 16: 52
      Whom did they forgive? Nazis and punishers of Khatyn. This is not forgiveness, but a forgotten crime before the fallen.
      1. +5
        29 February 2020 17: 11
        Yes, kakly reconciled with the executioners, it still comes around to them.
    5. +12
      29 February 2020 16: 53
      Recall that in Ukraine Victory Day May 9 is not celebrated since 2015, when the corresponding law was adopted.
      Quote: Incvizitor
      So they ended up defeating the Nazis in 2014, and it was not for them to celebrate Victory Day over the Nazis.

      Quote: figvam
      The authorities will not, but the people will be.

      Yesterday I found: Concert, in the year when Bandera president "canceled" the Victory Day.

      I looked, the same concert was last year. I advise you to look. And on the faces of those present there.
      Yes, the Nazis have power there, but we also have "approval" of the pension reform, ... I will assume that there will be "nationwide support" on April 22.
      1. -10
        29 February 2020 17: 32
        I guess there will be "nationwide support" on April 22.///

        And why doubt that the amended is wrong?
        1. 0
          29 February 2020 17: 51
          Quote: Lekz
          And why doubt that the amended is wrong?

          Srono. "A cat in a poke." But, this is for a specialized discussion.
          1. +1
            29 February 2020 19: 32
            Quote: There was a mammoth
            Srono.

            Sorry! "Ch" sinks. "Urgently!"
      2. +1
        29 February 2020 17: 32
        Quote: There was a mammoth
        Yes, the Nazis have power there, but we also have "approval" of the pension reform, ... I will assume that there will be "nationwide support" on April 22.

        Flies from cutlets need to be separated ....
      3. +1
        29 February 2020 20: 57
        I myself am happy to watch concerts dedicated to Victory Day for a Ukrainian. channel "Inter". And I think that in some ways they are even nicer than ours.
        1. 0
          29 February 2020 21: 37
          Quote: Leader of the Redskins
          I myself am happy to watch concerts dedicated to Victory Day for a Ukrainian. channel "Inter". And I think that in some ways they are even nicer than ours.

          Quote: major147
          Flies from cutlets need to be separated ....

          Who will be able to find at this concert who is Ukrainian and who is Russian? wink The point, however, is not nationality.
          What has pleased yet? The tunic is not hemmed. wink And the form is not a remake.
      4. 0
        29 February 2020 23: 00
        Quote: There was a mammoth
        Ukraine Victory Day May 9 is not celebrated since 2015

        In Ukraine, the Victory Day over Nazism in World War II 1939-1945 is celebrated on May 9. This memorable date was established by the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine only on April 9, 2015 by the law "On perpetuating the victory over Nazism in the Second World War 1939-1945" as part of the vote for a package of laws on decommunization. Since then, May 9 has been celebrated as the Day of Victory over Nazism in World War II instead of the Victory Day in the Great Patriotic War of 1941-1945 established since Soviet times.

        as was Victory Day and remained.
        It changed only from the Second World War to over Nazism.
        What kind of manipulation?
        WWII is for the USSR. Because all the glory and honor and all the merits are the USSR.
        And the fragments from the USSR are pulling the whole blanket over themselves and also watering each other in every way bad for the inheritance.
        1. -1
          1 March 2020 13: 02
          Quote: Σελήνη
          as was Victory Day and remained.
          It changed only from the Second World War to over Nazism.

          Just a little change wink
          I have no doubt that tens of millions of people in Ukraine will celebrate Victory Day. And I have no doubt that there will be provocations of the heirs of "Galicia" connivance and support of the Ukrainian authorities.
          Victory Day is an ideologically nasty holiday to the authorities. But there is an ideologically correct holiday in Ukraine - UPA Day, which so far has been bashfully called Defender’s Day .. Under the President, a Jew. wink Not yet evening". De-Sovietization coupled with "tse Europe", however.
    6. +5
      29 February 2020 17: 02
      ...... The procession of the immortal regiment Poroshenko called "the procession of the mummers."
      Poroshenko, who is he? The defendant, on whom the bunks cry.
      1. +10
        29 February 2020 18: 16
        Kiev authorities refuse to celebrate May 9 Victory Day

        Kiev is not all Ukraine. Donbas did not cancel this holiday! And for most ordinary Ukrainians this day is not an empty phrase.
        1. +4
          29 February 2020 19: 36
          Hello Dima ! hi
          Quote: Rich
          Kiev is not all Ukraine. Donbas did not cancel this holiday! And for most ordinary Ukrainians this day is not an empty phrase.

          That's it ! No need to align everyone with the Kiev lineup. Politicians trynd their own, but the people have an opinion. Although not particularly advertise it. For ALL normal people in the post-Soviet space, Victory Day is a holy holiday. And those who deny him are ghouls and geeks! fool
          1. +1
            29 February 2020 19: 48
            Greetings, Pasha hi Yes. And how do you disown him? Holy day! Day of popular rejoicing, and popular sorrow. Truly - A HOLIDAY WITH Tears IN THE EYES
            1. +3
              29 February 2020 19: 52
              Quote: Rich
              Truly - A HOLIDAY WITH Tears IN THE EYES

              As you can see, now there are enough politicians who are ready to rewrite everything for the sake of horned ungulates and others like them ... I really hope that those who are trying to rewrite history will be erased from its tablets! soldier
        2. +4
          29 February 2020 20: 09
          Quote: Rich
          Donbas did not cancel this holiday!

          hi , Dmitry.
          I only fear that the dill on May 9 will arrange a trick in the Donbass. This is their favorite hobby.
          1. 0
            29 February 2020 21: 00
            There is even no doubt about it, this is not a hobby, but their essence banderlog.
  2. +19
    29 February 2020 16: 05
    Ukrainian authorities refuse to celebrate Victory Day on May 9

    The authorities will not, but the people will be.
    1. +20
      29 February 2020 16: 13
      Kuevlyans and banderlogs let them celebrate what they want - these are their problems. And on May 9 we celebrated and will celebrate, at least while we are alive.
    2. +18
      29 February 2020 16: 15
      Nobody forbids people to remember the sacred
      1. +12
        29 February 2020 16: 28
        Quote: DMB 75
        Nobody forbids people to remember the sacred

        Those who remember, less and less, and Ukrainian youth will soon consider (and many already think so) that this is not a holiday at all and fought on the wrong side .. Nothing good will come of it if we continue to bury our heads in the sand like an ostrich .. It’s time to go to Kiev already and publicly judge the Natsiks. It would be better to instruct the Slavic brothers than to take part in a dubious war in Syria ..
        1. +1
          29 February 2020 16: 46
          In Syria, we beat terrorists at distant approaches in order to calmly go on the subway ... But will you go to admonish the Slav brothers?
          1. +9
            29 February 2020 16: 52
            Quote: Tank jacket
            In Syria, we beat terrorists at distant approaches in order to calmly go on the subway ... But will you go to admonish the Slav brothers?

            And in Syria, you specifically wet the terrorists? That's what the army would be to protect interests .. As for Syria and the terrorists, they are in Afghanistan .. and in Pakistan .. and indeed around the world .. but for some reason we didn’t go there .. and then another service exists for this - the FSB is called .. if it is not in vain that they eat bread, then you can safely ride in the subway ..
            Do you think fascism is better than terrorists? And we have at our side a whole state with 40 ml ..population, this does not bother you ..
            1. +1
              29 February 2020 17: 07
              In Ukraine, LDNR will deal with banderlogs as lawyers of Ukraine who did not accept the 2014 coup.
              The brain center for training extremists and terrorists is located in London. Offering to bomb London?
              1. +11
                29 February 2020 17: 12
                Quote: Tank jacket
                Offering to bomb London?

                My suggestion is specific .. and you need to pass a verbal test, on the perception of information, you will learn a lot about yourself laughing
                1. +2
                  29 February 2020 17: 14
                  What is your specific suggestion?
        2. +1
          29 February 2020 16: 54
          Quote: Svarog
          It would be better to instruct the Slavic brothers than to take part in a dubious war in Syria ..

          Yes, the State Department would be very pleased.
          1. +13
            29 February 2020 17: 09
            Quote: SaltY
            Quote: Svarog
            It would be better to instruct the Slavic brothers than to take part in a dubious war in Syria ..

            Yes, the State Department would be very pleased.

            The State Department is just now happy, and you are his ardent mouthpiece .. In Syria, they got bogged down .. it is not clear for what purpose and when and how it will all end .. 40 ml. the once fraternal state .. which refuses to celebrate the victory over the fascists, in which torchlight processions are allowed ... and the State Department approves this together with you and our silent leadership .. which is so worried for their grandmother that they have not come up with any ridiculous excuses, so as not to notice all that is happening near the house .. although both for you and for them, the concept of a house .. abstract they have at home in England .. and other "friendly" countries ..
            I believe that the order should begin to be put in place first near the house, and then look into neighboring villages .. and strategically, that's all statists arrived in the USSR, it’s hard to imagine that someone would have arrogance and spread fascism on the border with the USSR .. but why, because we had a corporation, not a state, it would be a state, the first thing with fraternal countries was put in order regardless of screech of the State Department ..
            1. -3
              29 February 2020 17: 18
              Globalization is an objective process, only globalization methods are subjective ... (the nearby village is already occupied)
              1. +13
                29 February 2020 17: 22
                Quote: Tank jacket
                Globalization is an objective process, only globalization methods are subjective ... (the nearby village is already occupied)

                So why then took the Crimea? Was he busy? You contradict yourself .. Busy-move .. this is our land and our people divided .. in the end it is our security, which means
                (the nearby village is already occupied)
                That's how you. Our leadership argues .. and why, by the way, unlike you, it understands everything perfectly .. but does nothing because the corporation, not the state .. and the managers are headed, not the statesmen ..
                1. 0
                  29 February 2020 17: 25
                  The state is a system of people's survival without losing their identity.
                  Every system has the ability to develop, or at least survive, if its resource capabilities are higher or at least equal to the pressure of the medium. The lack of resource capabilities should be compensated for by improving the quality of management.
                2. +2
                  29 February 2020 17: 42
                  Do you think the banderlog zapadentsy lived in Crimea? Why then did they vote in a referendum 90 percent for joining the Russian Federation?
                  1. +4
                    29 February 2020 18: 42
                    Quote: Tank jacket
                    Do you think the banderlog zapadentsy lived in Crimea?

                    By the way, they were pretty decent. Someone accepted the referendum and stayed, and many just left
              2. +3
                29 February 2020 18: 41
                Quote: Tank jacket
                Globalization is an objective process,

                not the USSR, or did the same? Do not tell me what happened next?
                1. -2
                  29 February 2020 18: 43
                  Could you tell me what happened after the assassination of Stalin with the agreement of Lena Goldfields?
                  Have American astronauts been on the moon?
                  1. +4
                    29 February 2020 18: 46
                    Quote: Tank jacket
                    Globalization is an objective process, only globalization methods are subjective.

                    и
                    Quote: Tank jacket
                    What happened after the assassination of Stalin with the agreement of Lena Goldfields?
                    Have American astronauts been on the moon?

                    did not catch the logical connection and interdependence of events
                    1. -2
                      29 February 2020 18: 55
                      What's so complicated? Can't catch the relationship? Or maybe you don’t need to catch the relationship, Sylvester? hi
                      There are five types of social idiocy ...
                      1. +4
                        29 February 2020 19: 05
                        Quote: Tank jacket
                        There are five types of social idiocy ...

                        do you relate to them? Really curious hi
                      2. -2
                        29 February 2020 19: 27
                        Fat burning.
                        Loyalty.
                        Liberalism.
                        Thoroughbred.
                        Nihilism.
                        -------
                        Judging by your questions, you are characterized by nihilism with liberalism ...
                      3. +5
                        29 February 2020 20: 02
                        Quote: Tank jacket
                        Judging by your questions, you are characterized by nihilism with liberalism ...

                        I am a dry pragmatist and always proceed from objective information. My work requires a sober mind and decision-making only from an objective situation. Emotions are harmful to the patient. Want to. that you were treated by an unbalanced surgeon? So that he would take and cut off your stomach in the heat of emotions just because he did not like him? laughing
                        So in politics, alas request
                  2. 0
                    29 February 2020 20: 15
                    Quote: Tank jacket
                    Tank jacket

                    hi
                    Ruslan, what are you talking about? fool
                    1. 0
                      29 February 2020 20: 38
                      Lelek hi , I did not understand your question? Do you think you do not need to ask questions to Sylvester? request Like let him live with his fears?
                      1. +1
                        29 February 2020 23: 34
                        Quote: Tank jacket
                        ...I did not understand your question?


                        I'm about the astronauts on the moon. What are they from what side?
                      2. 0
                        1 March 2020 04: 17
                        The astronauts who allegedly were on the moon continued the betrayal of the USSR elites and flirting with the west.
                      3. 0
                        1 March 2020 14: 29
                        Quote: Tank jacket
                        The astronauts who allegedly were on the moon continued the betrayal of the USSR elites and flirting with the west.


                        ??????? what
            2. -2
              29 February 2020 17: 20
              Quote: Svarog
              The State Department is just now pleased, and you are its ardent mouthpiece ..

              Yes, right. The best defense is an attack, any bazaar woman knows that.

              Quote: Svarog
              I think that...

              For reasoning about geopolitics, you lack education, you still confuse the successor with the receiver, the victim of a lack of education.
              1. +13
                29 February 2020 17: 33
                Quote: SaltY
                , victim of lack of education.

                I’m watching your education does not allow you to oppose reasonably, but allows you to get personal laughing
                1. -6
                  29 February 2020 17: 35
                  Quote: Svarog
                  I look and your education does not allow you to oppose reasonedly

                  Learn to communicate your thoughts in a coherent way, there will be reasoned opposition to you. In the meantime, you do not deserve more, sorry.
    3. +10
      29 February 2020 16: 16
      Quote: figvam
      and the people will be.

      Definitely. The main thing is that the holiday itself remained. It is unlikely that anyone will drink for reconciliation, and what else is there. For the victory of course!
    4. +5
      29 February 2020 16: 24
      Quote: figvam
      Ukrainian authorities refuse to celebrate Victory Day on May 9

      The authorities will not, but the people will be.

      It’s a pity, the authorities will spoil the people’s holiday again - the policemen will tear the St. George’s ribbons, Natsik with Zelenka to splatter ...
    5. +3
      29 February 2020 16: 29
      Quote: figvam
      The authorities will not, but the people will be.

      Power is alien, not popular.
    6. +2
      29 February 2020 16: 48
      In many ways, Ukrainians apathy, not everyone jumped, not all wanted it. The degree of the bottom to which the people are lowered no one could have imagined. But having said A, one must speak also B. Here is the power and brings everything to complete lawlessness, which should become absurd, but the bulk should come to this. After all, 1/3 of the population understands everything, but can not do anything. Bondarenko, Montyan, Lukash. .. But so far they are being made clowns, crushed by their stinking mass .... Nobody will go against the Russian Federation, and she will go to Ukraine. People will celebrate on May 9, and 8 is officialdom, expulsion to the crowd.
      1. +4
        29 February 2020 16: 51
        Nobody is forgotten, nothing is forgotten. This is well remembered by the adequate inhabitants of Ukraine.
    7. +3
      29 February 2020 17: 01
      “Germany does not mark the date of the end of World War II in Europe. But this does not mean that the Germans are reminded of the WWII unleashed by the Nazis and their monstrous crimes only once every five years. The study of their own history is going on in Germany every day - in schools and with the assistance of public and private initiatives, hundreds of museums remind of this. "
      Germany is a losing side, but it drew the right conclusions, unlike modern Ukraine, where the concept of fascism has come to the surface, climbed to the top of political rhetoric. "If every Soviet citizen who died in that war is honored with a minute of silence, then the silence will last about 50 years."
      This means that Ukrainian politicians not only do not honor the great victories and achievements that we achieved together, but also do not respect their heroic ancestors and, then, the small number of living veterans of the Second World War.
    8. +3
      29 February 2020 17: 21
      the population of Ukraine is divided into two irreconcilable camps. So "we" will celebrate. "They" are not.
  3. +16
    29 February 2020 16: 06
    and ready to forgive each other.

    Fascists, Nazis and Bandera cannot be forgiven ... if you are ready to make them heroes and martyrs, then you will again have to go through the Nuremberg Tribunal.
    1. +14
      29 February 2020 16: 17
      Well, the tribunal to these degenerates must be done Donbass, worse than Nuremberg, to shake like an aspen leaf.
    2. +6
      29 February 2020 16: 28
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      Fascists, Nazis and Bandera can not be forgiven

      There is no and never will be forgiveness for them, and there will be no one who walks their way. Everyone will receive their own, history will not forget this, and it will not be possible to hide behind the 95th quarter or abroad.
    3. +3
      29 February 2020 16: 40
      Quote: The same Lech

      Fascists, Nazis and Bandera cannot be forgiven ... if you are ready to make them heroes and martyrs, then you will again have to go through the Nuremberg Tribunal.


      It seems that there is no other way, otherwise they will not come to their senses ...
  4. +11
    29 February 2020 16: 06
    Great news, they are not worthy to celebrate such a great holiday as May 9th.
    1. +14
      29 February 2020 16: 21
      Quote: Aliken
      Great news, they are not worthy to celebrate such a great holiday as May 9th.

      Well, if their symbol of Victory is not the St. George Ribbon, but an advertisement for feminine hygiene products, then why should they really celebrate?

      1. +5
        29 February 2020 16: 49
        Quote: Zoldat_A
        their symbol of Victory is not St. George’s ribbon, but an advertisement of female intimate hygiene products

        The Ukrainians themselves called it, sorry, "point".
        1. +3
          29 February 2020 17: 10
          Quote: novobranets
          The Ukrainians themselves called it, sorry, "point".

          Yeah ... I don’t know, poppy or something else on "Koteks", but what the Ukrainians have is hardly like poppy. But on Kotex "- very much even. The people cannot be fooled ...

          In this regard, among other symbols of the poppy, it is noteworthy
          The ancient Greeks considered poppy an attribute of not only the god of sleep (Hypnos), but also the god of death (Thanatos).

          And by the way, on the front portrait of Catherine II by D.G. Levitsky
          ... burning on the altar of poppy flowers, the symbol of Morpheus - the destruction of peace and sleep, which she sacrifices for her country


          Hence the moral - to attach a poppy on the buttonhole and, in the words of Hamlet,
          .... Sleep forgotten.
          Fall asleep ... and dream? Here is the answer.
          Forget, forgive ...
    2. +4
      29 February 2020 16: 23
      Quote: Aliken
      Great news, they are not worthy to celebrate such a great holiday as May 9th.

      You must not forget who they are. But there is another Ukraine, Ukraine of people and God. They will also celebrate Victory Day.
  5. +17
    29 February 2020 16: 07
    Bottom. What a pity the veterans who shed blood for the Victory .... And we will celebrate, to all enemies in spite!
  6. +12
    29 February 2020 16: 10
    It is logical! The Ukrainian authorities will mourn the defeat of the "European coalition" on May 8, because the Galicians on the opposite side fought, and the Ukrainian leadership is building foreign and domestic policies in accordance with the interests of the western regions of Ukraine.
  7. +7
    29 February 2020 16: 19
    All veterans will celebrate! And they will not have to "reconcile" with Bandera. And then the authorities took the fashion - and veterans and these shortcomings and one table to plant. The main thing is to give the opportunity to calmly lay flowers to the eternal fire.
  8. +4
    29 February 2020 16: 20
    No government can ban Victory Day, let the ghouls cry, and real Ukrainians will not report to them.
  9. +5
    29 February 2020 16: 20
    Our position now remains as it is: no, we are not going to celebrate May 9th. We, like the entire European continent, in 75 years are ready to understand why this tragedy occurred, and we are ready to forgive each other
    Now in Ukraine the power of Satan rules.
  10. +6
    29 February 2020 16: 20
    So take your whole European Union by the hands, go to Russia, drop to your knees, and ask for forgiveness, since you think that you and Hitler were for one. They’ve already completely fooled !!!! Go to your graves to your deeds! Tell us what the Nazis are now your heroes! Ugh on you !!!!!
  11. +4
    29 February 2020 16: 25
    in 75 years we’re ready to understand why this tragedy happened
    Here are the brakes. Normal people, back in the 30s, knew the fault was the ideology of Nazism.
    but the latest events in the country "revealed the truth to the people," which the Soviet authorities concealed.
    Of course, they discovered that the ideologists of Ukraine fought on the side of Hitler Germany. However, this was never a secret.
    having appropriated the common victory of the anti-Hitler coalition over Nazism
    Well, since in Ukraine they abandoned the general Victory Day, then in Russia the memory has not yet disappeared.
  12. +6
    29 February 2020 16: 26
    Immortal regiment will see which will be held in Kiev. A lot of courage will be necessary for those who go in his ranks ...
    1. +2
      29 February 2020 16: 38
      It seems to me that they will go and not a little, the power has played in the end ...
  13. +2
    29 February 2020 16: 31
    how much you can already speculate on this holiday.
  14. +2
    29 February 2020 16: 35
    Now I would just listen to this scarecrow flawed ... for normal people, this will remain a celebration of victory and will be celebrated on May 9 ...
    1. -2
      29 February 2020 17: 48
      A normal person will not put the hero of an American cartoon on the avatar. There are many foreign cartoon lovers here. Want to list you all? Change tactics ... Be angry ...
      1. +2
        29 February 2020 20: 22
        You probably confuse me with someone. And also (Oh!) I like American music and a lot of American films, and now justify what is not normal. You can list anyone and classify site visitors as you want, I don’t care about that at all. And answer the question: what am I fumbling with?
        1. -2
          29 February 2020 20: 27
          And where did you get the idea that I am confusing you with someone? Is it possible to confuse you with auto-authors from American cartoons?
          Soros money regularly come? How much money do you think Soros will continue to receive? wassat
  15. +3
    29 February 2020 16: 36
    Authorities are not people yet.
    We, too, the authorities of the municipality drape on May 9th.
  16. 0
    29 February 2020 16: 36
    That's right, now the honors of Bandera and Shukhevych are in power in Ukraine, they have no right to celebrate "Victory Day" their lot is to whine and mourn their false heroes who have disappeared according to their merits for their atrocities!
    But will the Ukrainian people betray their glorious ancestors who defeated fascism, is this of course a question? !
  17. +3
    29 February 2020 16: 37
    Today for them the Day of May 9 is not a holiday, but tomorrow for them is the day of May 9, "the day of sorrow."
    Officially, now the Red Army has not liberated Ukraine, but “occupied” it. But Hitler, yes, he freed them from the "Moscow yoke." So, soon there will be celebrated there on June 22, they say, the Europeans came to release us.
    1. +1
      29 February 2020 20: 23
      this is already happening ...
  18. +5
    29 February 2020 16: 37
    We, like the entire European continent, in 75 years are ready to understand why this tragedy occurred, and we are ready to forgive each other.


    I could have expected everything, but this ... all of Europe fought against us, we already need to stop hiding it, and God forgive them there too ...
    1. 0
      29 February 2020 17: 31
      One has only to give slack and all this euro-swath will all at once again stand at the borders.
      1. +2
        29 February 2020 17: 34
        So they are already grouped under striped banners, they conduct joint exercises, everything repeats ...
  19. +10
    29 February 2020 16: 37
    I parted big and fat on the whole Ukrainian power! My one grandfather went missing, the second came back with a disability, my father was injured and I should not celebrate Victory Day !? Should I come to terms with Bandera? H.R.E.N them across all of their Bandera fascist faces !!!! am
    1. +1
      29 February 2020 17: 09
      I fully support !!! soldier
      1. 0
        29 February 2020 17: 30
        .. "a kind word and a gun are much more effective than just a kind word", "good must be with fists" and so on ... Cool nickname! "Pacifist with AK" hi
  20. +2
    29 February 2020 16: 42
    Remembrance and Reconciliation Day, celebrated on May 8
    With whom reconciliation, with the European Nazi murderers and systematic fighters of the civilian population ??? That's really, "tollerasty" are real, in power in the Krajina, we really hope that half of the real Ukrainian people will still feel themselves Winners, with us on MAY 9!
  21. +4
    29 February 2020 16: 42
    There is nothing surprising. It's just that the so-called oligarchy, both "Ukrainian" and "Rassian", deliberately first divided our people, and then pitted them. We hate, and they hate dollars and everything else.
  22. -4
    29 February 2020 16: 47
    And who will answer the question: why the Victory Day in the Soviet Union was not celebrated from 1947 to 1965?
    1. 0
      29 February 2020 17: 02
      Quote: Old Fuck
      And who will answer the question: why the Victory Day in the Soviet Union was not celebrated from 1947 to 1965?

      Don't you guess? Uh-uh, ah, still "fuck old" belay wink
      1. +1
        29 February 2020 17: 11
        Can you tell me? I don’t know anything either. Do not want to make an extra day off?
    2. 0
      29 February 2020 17: 47
      actually celebrated. it just was not a day off. you do not confuse warm with soft. country in ruins. Extra weekend is certainly not an option.
    3. -1
      29 February 2020 18: 40
      Quote: Old Horseradish
      And who will answer the question: why the Victory Day in the Soviet Union was not celebrated from 1947 to 1965?

      You would look into the history of Victory Day and there you will see that this day has always been a holiday (from 1945), but from 1947 to 1965 it was not a day off.
      Of those present here, no one has the right to give you explanations on the decisions of the Supreme Commander-in-Chief and the Presidium of the USSR Armed Forces. Perhaps the IVS had their own thoughts.
      When finished the last Bandera? In the mid-50s. It is likely to hold parades when Soviet citizens continued to die at the hands of fascist henchmen, they did not consider it right. And there was no money for the parades in its present form either.
      But I hope you have your own, "true and correct" version? Share, do not carry to the grave.
      1. 0
        2 March 2020 00: 29
        My grandfather was demobilized in 1953, with the rank of foreman, after the war he fought in western Ukraine as part of the NKVD troops, it was he who !, with Bandera. About what was there, he never even told. Once my grandmother said that everything was very bad there, the Bandera village was cut out ... it seems that the top of those unfinished people today lifted their heads.
  23. +1
    29 February 2020 16: 48
    But actually you still live to see May 9! Suddenly the power will change! And the politics will change!
  24. -7
    29 February 2020 16: 51
    Occupied by the USA, Ukraine does not have the moral right to celebrate Victory Day on May 9. The losers must celebrate the day of application with the occupation regime ...
    Donbass and Lugansk the new capitals of the Ukrainian and Russian people will celebrate May 9.
    1. +3
      29 February 2020 17: 07
      Quote: Tank jacket
      The losers must celebrate the day of application with the occupation regime ...

      Do we have a right?
      1. -2
        29 February 2020 17: 13
        Woe to the conquered nations, unaware of what the Cold War is ...

        I understand them, only the lower part of the figure is available, i.e. when shells are already flying ...
  25. +3
    29 February 2020 17: 06
    Reconciliation Day ?????????? Tell this to my grandfather ..... which lies somewhere in the Leningrad land))))) Sorry, could not resist ........................ ........................
  26. 0
    29 February 2020 17: 07
    The authorities then understand .. But what will the people of Ukraine say?
  27. +4
    29 February 2020 17: 07
    It is right! What is Victory Day for Bandera power? And people will celebrate. Despite everything.
  28. +2
    29 February 2020 17: 40
    every year, brainwashing for young Ukrainians will be more sophisticated and under Russophobian
    sauce, with the addition of a nationalist drug. And nationalism is a psychological drug,
    which will make you hate real heroes, make you believe the census of Soroski and American history. There are no young shoots in Ukraine now, and she is all going to seek work in the Baltic States and Poland. Well, there this Russophobic-nationalist drug
    crammed so that in a few years these young Ukrainians will be the biggest haters
    Russia. Among other things, the denial of the results of the Great Patriotic War after the destruction of the USSR, these museums
    occupation, destruction of monuments to the Heroes of the Soviet Union and commanders of the Great Patriotic War
    then it began in the Baltic states. And tanks with Russian oil and coal went to the ports of the Baltic states.
    Then it was already necessary to tighten the screws for denying the results of the Great Patriotic War, and not wait until
    from this Russophobic-nationalist drug they will begin to demolish the roof in Ukraine.
    For anyone, one must remember that sometimes even healthy relatives are reptiles. What to say then
    about stupefied by a nationalist drug. Therefore, we must understand that every year in Ukraine, from
    for the fact that old people are dying, there will be less and less of those who lived and remember the USSR and its contribution to the Great Impulse, and every year in Ukraine there will be more and more who will humiliate both Russia and the Great Soviet Victory in the patterns and Anglo-Saxon patterns people .And the Anglo-Saxons will spare no money, nor
    blackmail, no resources of their propaganda. Which in one bottle is the Russophobic-nationalist drug.
  29. 0
    29 February 2020 17: 43
    And how do Hitler's followers declare the VICTORY holiday over their idol?
  30. +7
    29 February 2020 17: 48
    In 1946, Ukraine knew what to do with Bandera.

    Let's wait a little longer. The Ukrainian people will depart from the dope and remember what they have already done once with Bandera and will repeat it.
    1. -4
      29 February 2020 18: 15
      Beautiful photo...
  31. -5
    29 February 2020 17: 57
    The president is a Russian-speaking Jew; even a Negro is present in his party in the Rada. All the same, "The Nazis won in Ukraine." Well, how to talk to people if they can't think?
    1. -2
      29 February 2020 18: 36
      Quote: Karaul14
      President Russian-speaking Jew,

      Again expired bullshit pushes. laughing laughing laughing AND? All the bandit men on the move do not spit, only if forced, on the camera. And the topic "a Jew is not a Jew" is no longer rolling - Benya, the owner of this clown will confirm.
      Quote: Karaul14
      how to talk to people if they don’t know how to think?
      Since in your area this is the norm, then nothing.
      P.S. Well your division ... "Katya-2" appeared again ... in the third version. fellow
      That's the intonation familiar ... Yes
    2. -2
      29 February 2020 20: 51
      They know how. Even as they can. So don’t bother, dear man. The Nazis rule the ball in Ukraine.
  32. -1
    29 February 2020 18: 03
    In Ukraine, they were completely bogged down and lost, either they claim that they fought with Hitler for independence, then they claim that they won a victory for the Soviet Union (they say how many Ukrainian fronts were, hehe wassat )
    Now something is being reconciled there, it is a celebration of a losing European dictatorship.
  33. +4
    29 February 2020 18: 07
    For the weakest, look at the flag that developed over the Rehstag. Whose flag is Victory! Something I did not observe over Hitler's den of three flags. And the Great Patriotic War was considered complete only after the signature of the representatives of the USSR!
  34. +1
    29 February 2020 18: 09
    Everything is logical.
    Well, what is Ukraine’s Victory Day?
    Bandera never won anyone.
    Victory over common sense is their victory.
  35. +5
    29 February 2020 18: 36
    I am in occupied territory. My father and father-in-law were participants in the Great Patriotic War, and a dozen other relatives also fought. Four were killed. ALL awarded. And we with the whole family will MANDATORY celebrate Victory Day: I will go with my friends to the central memorial to the paratroopers-Alyshany (the whole city will carry flowers all day), we will lay flowers, and we will go with the traditional "Immortal Regiment" with portraits. We'll gather around the table later and celebrate. Then we'll watch the parade and the Moscow fireworks. Maybe, like last year, the cranes will visit us ...
    And let the modern traitors of the descendants and descendants of Bandera, different Potions, Gunpowder, Priistayki and other evil spirits, we DO NOT need them! Only then they will hang around and among us, in every way, as usual, to interfere and provoke.
    And we may forgive some of them. If they repent for their ancestors and their baseness. But this is probably not soon ...
    1. 0
      29 February 2020 19: 57
      Quote: Vladimir Mashkov
      I'm in the occupied territory.

      In 14, I believed that we needed all of Ukraine. Not like territory. We are from the same root, with the same history. Let history have decreed that Ukraine is a different state, but I believe that there will be "a holiday on our street." I still think so.
    2. 0
      1 March 2020 18: 45
      And what not to launch their fireworks?
  36. 0
    29 February 2020 18: 37
    Congratulations on the upcoming holiday of the winners from the Ukrainian SSR !!! . And how did the young generation get their brains dirty .... People wake up ....
  37. +1
    29 February 2020 19: 02
    Yes, and to hell with them. Victory Day is a holiday that Russia should always celebrate. Because it is only thanks to this holiday that our country exists, like most of us.
    The Great Patriotic War was a war for the survival of our people. the Nazis just wanted to exterminate everyone. leaving a small number of slaves. Therefore, this holiday is important for us. Undoubtedly, Europeans have a completely different view of this. And Ukraine is Europe :) :) just if there were no victory in that war, there would be no Ukrainians
  38. -2
    29 February 2020 19: 49
    Dumb crested ragul.
  39. +2
    29 February 2020 20: 02
    Quote: in4ser
    The authorities then understand .. And what will the people of Ukraine say?

    Well, as if in response to the calendar for the 75th anniversary of Victory (https://topwar.ru/167875-v-seti-vylozhili-polnuju-versiju-kalendarja-vyzvavshego-neodnoznachnuju-reakciju.html), based on the wishes of many members of the forum that it would be nice to see a calendar where the real heroes are the children of the Sons of the regiments and the Workers of the rear, I propose this calendar to the forum users (from the heart):
  40. +3
    29 February 2020 20: 04
    February 2020
  41. +2
    29 February 2020 20: 05
    March 2020__
  42. +2
    29 February 2020 20: 07
    April 2020
  43. -3
    29 February 2020 20: 09
    Quote: Silvestr
    Quote: Tank jacket
    Judging by your questions, you are characterized by nihilism with liberalism ...

    I am a dry pragmatist and always proceed from objective information. My work requires a sober mind and decision-making only from an objective situation. Emotions are harmful to the patient. Want to. that you were treated by an unbalanced surgeon? So that he would take and cut off your stomach in the heat of emotions just because he did not like him? laughing
    So in politics, alas request

    Then, liberalism and nihilism are added to your psychotype cleanliness and loyalty. It remains to express the liquid rapture for a complete career ...
    Are you a Jew by nationality?
    Is mom Jewish?
    Do you practice Judaism?
    1. -2
      29 February 2020 21: 26

      Sylvester is for you for a complete career
  44. +3
    29 February 2020 20: 09
    May 2020____
  45. +3
    29 February 2020 20: 11
    June 2020___
  46. +2
    29 February 2020 20: 14
    July 2020___
  47. +1
    29 February 2020 20: 15
    August 2020__
  48. +1
    29 February 2020 20: 17
    September 2020_
  49. +1
    29 February 2020 20: 20
    October 2020__
  50. +1
    29 February 2020 20: 22
    November 2020__
  51. +2
    29 February 2020 20: 23
    December 2020__
  52. -1
    29 February 2020 21: 01
    Germany started the Second World War, and all of Europe went against us with it.
    In the end they LOST!!! That is why it is a holiday of memory and reconciliation for them!
    (I think so and mourn that you blew it!!!)
    It's VICTORY DAY for us!! Because WE WON!!!
    And Ukraine is Judas
  53. -2
    29 February 2020 21: 36
    Quote: Silvestr
    Quote: Tank jacket
    Do you think the banderlog zapadentsy lived in Crimea?

    By the way, they were pretty decent. Someone accepted the referendum and stayed, and many just left

    How many people left as a percentage of Russians? Two percent? One percent? Error?
  54. 0
    29 February 2020 23: 06
    Every year the media solemnly declare that Ukraine has abandoned May 9th.
    Every year at VO they solemnly throw mud at the country, saying that the fascists and others are radishes.
    It's good to manipulate an entire country with just the media.
    May 9 is still a legal holiday in Ukraine (Victory Day), like May 8 (but there is a day of mourning)
    Prystaiko’s words as head of the Foreign Ministry were about something else. Interesting thing about Zelensky’s invitation to Moscow.
    And of course, the Ukrainian Foreign Ministry could not help but remember that they are like Europe.
    But the Supreme Legislative Body of Ukraine established May 9 as an official holiday (like 8)
    The Ministry of Foreign Affairs has nothing to do with domestic politics.
  55. 0
    29 February 2020 23: 34
    Quote: Σελήνη
    The Ministry of Foreign Affairs has nothing to do with domestic politics

    Come on, you have to make excuses for Ukraine...

    And I remember there was a power -
    The Poles and Teutons were scared.
    And every dog ​​was trembling,
    Seeing our squadrons.

    Life turned us in the backsides
    Fate-villain spread.
    Oh, how you made me mad,
    Oh, you're so crazy!


    Transit train through Ukraine...
    Timur Shaov
  56. -2
    1 March 2020 02: 13
    What kind of idiot writes such news? What would annoy us Russians?
  57. -1
    1 March 2020 03: 40
    What are their grandfathers, who fought for victory, thinking about? A whip on this KVN guy's ass!
  58. -2
    1 March 2020 07: 56
    And what’s surprising is that Belarus is following the same path.
    Russia is celebrating, but our authorities are now afraid that they have gone too far with propaganda, because... The Soviet government does not fit in with current capitalism, which has a disgusting attitude towards people and the Country, and they again began to sing songs about repression and Stalin’s cruel attitude towards the people.
  59. -1
    1 March 2020 08: 00
    And don’t care about them, close the borders, ban transfers, let them continue to stew in their shit.
  60. -1
    1 March 2020 08: 11
    Well, if you joined the camp of the vanquished, then that’s it... The vanquished cannot celebrate on the same day as the victors.
  61. -1
    1 March 2020 08: 37
    Deny their entry into Russia, and kick out those who are angry here, and that’s enough of this chewing gum about the fraternal people. Get out of Russia.
  62. +3
    1 March 2020 09: 40
    This is natural. This is not their holiday, their Bandera and Hitler lost that war.
  63. -1
    1 March 2020 10: 45
    Finished, in a word
  64. 0
    1 March 2020 19: 24
    Quote: Incvizitor
    And what not to launch their fireworks?

    Yes, we will have shooting in the evening. And decent. But the Moscow fireworks are different.

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