Erdogan asked Putin to leave Ankara "one on one" with Damascus

Russia needs to leave Turkey face to face with Syria and not intervene in the conflict. This was stated by Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan, speaking in Istanbul.

According to the Turkish president, he asked his Russian counterpart, Vladimir Putin, "not to interfere in the confrontation between the Turkish troops and the Syrian government army," since Ankara is not fighting against the Syrian people, but is fighting the "Assad regime." However, he stressed that Turkey is not going to leave Syria. At the same time, Erdogan noted that "Ankara does not understand Moscow’s intentions in Syria."

The Syrian question is by no means an adventure or a desire to expand borders. We entered there not at the invitation of Assad, but at the invitation of the Syrian people. And until the people invite us to leave, we will not leave from there. I told Putin: leave us with the one on one regime, we will do what we need

- he stressed.

Continuing his speech, Erdogan said that in response to the death from a Syrian strike aviation 36 military personnel, the Turkish army in retaliation destroyed a large number of manpower of the Assad government army, a lot of military equipment and discovered warehouses with chemical weapons.

We destroyed more than 2100 Syrian military, 300 units of military transport, seven chemical depots. And we will continue to destroy them

- he said.

Earlier, the Russian Foreign Ministry said that the Russian-Turkish talks in Ankara on the situation in Idlib did not lead to anything. The parties agreed to continue to comply with earlier agreements and continue consultations in anticipation of negotiations between Putin and Erdogan.

Comments

[Scipio]

There is a wonderful song about tomatoes just: a dreamer, you called me! At Erdogan, the cuckoo flew. Turkey is at war with the Assad regime, and we don’t support the Assad regime !?

[Sky strike fighter]

We destroyed more than 2100 Syrian military, 300 units of military transport, seven chemical depots. And we will continue to destroy them

- he said.

Well, Erdik’s imagination. Chemical depots were used. It’s good that not 2100000 Syrian military men. And thanks for that.

[Ilya-spb]

I remember there were already such.

In Kiev, millions of armies destroyed)

[letinant]

The Syrian question is by no means an adventure or a desire to expand borders. We entered there not at the invitation of Assad, but at the invitation of the Syrian people. And until the people invite us to leave, we will not leave from there.

Can someone explain to me whether the military is the people of Syria or the Assad regime? If this is the people, then he does not just say leave, he expels the Turkish troops. And Erdogan, in my opinion, is already talking, and one place is on fire. In Syria, more than 40 corpses at a time (the Turks recognized), in Libya + 13, he is not a sultan, not a sultan.

[Stas157]

Erdogan:

We entered there not at the invitation of Assad, but at the invitation Syrian people.

and right after that:

We destroyed more 2100 Syrian military ... And we will continue to destroy them

[Tatyana]

Erdogan’s remarks not only show Washington’s ears, but also the personal enrichment of the Erdogan family on Syrian oil. Namely.

During the existence of ISIS in the SAR, almost all the Syrian oil produced by the ISIS, at a price of $ 10 per barrel, went through the territory of the SAR, seized by ISIS militants, across the border with Turkey and was then re-registered as "Turkish" through private property firms in Turkey and Israel.
Partly, this oil from Turkey’s ports later went to Israel, as already allegedly Turkish.
The Erdogan family rose - oligarchically enriched - on Syrian oil and arms sales.

So in the war of Turkey with the SAR, Erdogan has a purely personal business interest. For this, the Turkish oligarch Erdogan, one can say, has privatized the Turkish Armed Forces in his personal selfish interests.

I wrote about this even before the ATS began to actively fight against ISIS.

[Krasnodar]

The intermediary company was Bulgarian. I bought from the Turks (a private company, relatives of Erdogan). This oil was traded by everyone, including Russians, the main consumer was Assad himself, who justly did not want to buy his own oil at world prices.

[Tatyana]

Quote: Krasnodar

the main consumer was Assad himself, who rightly did not want to buy his own oil at world prices

Assad - i.e. SAR - crumbs of oil "from the table" of ISIS were getting. Namely.

At first. There was nothing for the ATS to buy stolen oil from ISIS during a war-ravaged economy.
And secondly. ISIS sold oil to Assad solely because of the greed of the "barmaley" themselves and an overabundance of it for the needs of ISIS themselves and the ability of ISIS itself to float Syrian oil abroad for sale.

[Tatyana]

Erdogan stressed:

The Syrian question is by no means an adventure or a desire to expand borders. We entered there not at the invitation of Assad, but at the invitation of the Syrian people. And until the people invite us to leave, we will not leave from there. I told Putin: leave us with the one on one regime, we will do what we need

Erdogan is the demagogue of the highest guild!

So why, then, Erdogan with his "Double Standards", like a fox twirling his tail, still does not recognize Crimea as Russian?
Crimea, which, by the will of the people, during a referendum with participation in voting, almost 100% of the population of Crimea in the amount of 95% of votes voted "for" the entry of Crimea into the Russian Federation - and without even a single shot "against"!

The oligarch Erdogan, being the president of Turkey, rages purely for his personal business interests in the BV - in the same ATS and against the presence of the Russian Aerospace Forces there!
In this regard, for the US, Turkey Erdogan is an elementary proxy force for the United States Trump!

[Wolf]

Similarly, Tanya, but there the ears of the deep powers of the United States, the Fed and the Zionists hang around and OHIM! The Sultan was promised a lot and he eagerly stepped on a rake, but this greed could easily be the reason for the destruction of Turkey as a power. On a thin blade he plays now!

[Krasnodar]

Quote: Tatiana

Assad - i.e. SAR - crumbs of oil "from the table" of ISIS were getting. Namely.

At first. There was nothing for the ATS to buy stolen oil from ISIS during a war-ravaged economy.
And secondly. ISIS sold oil to Assad solely because of the greed of the "barmaley" themselves and an overabundance of it for the needs of ISIS themselves and the ability of ISIS itself to float Syrian oil abroad for sale.

Two mutually exclusive statements:
Assad had nothing to buy oil
At the same time, IG sold him oil)).
For yourself, decide what was really there

[Tatyana]

Quote: Krasnodar

Two mutually exclusive statements: Assad had nothing to buy oil at the same time, the IG sold him oil)).

Citizen of Israel Krasnodar!
At first. Do not cling to my words in my SHORT comment!

Quote: Krasnodar

For yourself, decide what was really there

And secondly. In fact, the collective West - Turkey, the USA, Great Britain, France and other countries, including Israel, just like dogs, robbed and tore into parts of the SAR - the sovereign Syria Assad with the help of ISIS!

[Krasnodar]

1) The question is simple - did Assad buy oil from the IG or not? )))
2) Israel has especially plundered - making freebies to Syrian citizens, incl. Assad’s soldiers, barmaleys, miners, and children of tens of thousands of dollars worth of operations for free

[Tatyana]

Just do not troll me!

Quote: Krasnodar

1) The question is simple - did Assad buy oil from the IG or not? )))

Western media wrote that the SAR was buying Syrian oil from ISIS militants. But only Western media wrote this! And to believe in the Western media is not to respect yourself. And on the other hand, according to the logic of the civil war, I completely admit that someone in the SAR was buying oil from the needlemen. During the civil war, not everything in the country is so simple! Does this answer suit you?

Quote: Krasnodar

2) Israel has especially plundered - making freebies to Syrian citizens, incl. Assad soldiers, barmaleys, myrrhians and children of operations worth tens of thousands of dollars for free

If Israel bought Syrian oil stolen by ISIS through intermediaries in Turkey, and there were not only Bulgarians, but also Jews from Israel, then this is already not free for pro-Israeli Arabs and Israel itself!

[Krasnodar]

1) That is, I do not believe it - but it is possible
2) All oil dealers bought cheap oil "like from Iraq" through Bulgarian intermediaries. Russians as well. ))

[Tatyana]

Krasnodar! You are an entrepreneur! And you know very well that an intermediary company can be dummy - i.e. framed in one country, and its owners are citizens of completely different countries!
It’s even strange for me that in this case, you are in fact disputing such things! But in vain.

[Krasnodar]

Bulgarian was fake - certainly))
The owners are rumored to be Turks. It is rumored to be related to Erdogan's children.

[Tatyana]

Quote: Krasnodar

Bulgarian was fake - certainly))
The owners are rumored to be Turks. It is rumored to be related to Erdogan's children.

Now this is closer to the topic.

[Krasnodar]

Question - Is Israel here sideways? )))

[Tatyana]

Quote: Krasnodar

Question - Is Israel here sideways? )))

Thereby! What was - it was! :
Israel bought "Turkish" oil, diluted its oil with it and resold it further to the West!
And sometimes Israel bought stolen Syrian oil directly from the Ishilov’s. Channels have been established.

[Krasnodar]

Quote: Tatiana

Thereby! What was - it was! :
Israel bought "Turkish" oil, diluted its oil with it and resold it further to the West!
And sometimes Israel bought stolen Syrian oil directly from the Ishilov’s. Channels have been established.

Where did Israel get its own oil, Tatyana? )))

[Tatyana]

Quote: Krasnodar

Where did Israel get its own oil, Tatyana? )))

Well, you ask your Israelis on the site "VO"!
For example, Atalef! Who at that time, working as a manager in an Israeli port - in an office, from which the entire port and the pier, as in a palm of your hand - argued in a dispute with me on this matter that Israel trades with other countries exclusively only its "Israeli" oil and no more, and if he buys oil abroad, only "Turkish"!

[Krasnodar]

Which will then be used for the Igilovskaya oil - well, I see ... Tatyana, are you sure you understood Atalef correctly? About the fact that Israel is one of the few places in the BV, in which there is no oil - for a long time there are jokes

[Tatyana]

Quote: Krasnodar

. Tatyana, are you sure you understood Atalef correctly?

Do not worry about me! Atalef and I always understood each other as they should.

Quote: Krasnodar

About the fact that Israel is one of the few places in the BV, in which there is no oil - for a long time there are jokes

Respected! Jokes in the EMPTY place are not born! I’m explaining this to you.
See my comment below.

[Krasnodar]

There is no oil in Israel. Therefore:
Dilute her
Export with Igilovskaya
Or separately
Does not seem possible
For your information.

[Dog]

Quote: Krasnodar

About the fact that Israel is one of the few places in the BV, in which there is no oil - for a long time there are jokes

Jokes about Jews - everyone loves. And, of course, anecdotes are not born from scratch. But to take a picture from anecdote straight at face value is still not worth it. It should be understood that an anegdot simply takes some side of life, and shows it in a more contrasting light (hyperbolizes) - that’s why it’s ridiculous for us that truth is the basis, but it is shown in extremely contrast.
Israel has oil fields under development (Chelets, Tsuk-Tamrur, Meged). Mining has been going on since the 60s. There are some reserves that are not yet developed (including oil, of course, also occurs in association with gas in existing gas fields, including Leviathan). At the very least, reconnaissance and further exploration is underway.
Yes, reserves and production are not significant. But Israel's oil industry is even less transparent than, say, that of Azerbaijan, which is riddled with corruption. This makes it possible to easily do what Tatyana wrote about here - to take the "prohibited for sale" oil from the same ISIS and sell it under the guise of oil extracted on its territory. I would absolutely not be surprised if I find out that Israel no no yes and trades the same Iranian oil according to some murky schemes - because money does not smell, and while most Israelis consider Iran an enemy, various murky businessmen among them make money together with Iran, spit on their compatriots.

[Krasnodar]

It trades even Rostov Coal
But - oil is not produced in Israel. She is not there. All intelligence found nothing worthwhile. The sphere of oil production and export is absent as an industry. The fact that individual businessmen speculate on anything is understandable.

[Dog]

Quote: Krasnodar

oil is not extracted in Israel

I wrote you the names of some of the oil fields in Israel. You can read about them.
At the same Megede, production (of oil and associated gas) has been conducted since 2010, although earlier this field was classified as unprofitable.

[Krasnodar]

I lived 25 years in Israel. Oil production on an industrial scale - NO)). There is no export. There are developments. No more

[Dog]

Quote: Krasnodar

I lived 25 years in Israel

And Baba Klara lives all his life in Usovo, right under the Novo-Ogaryovskoy residence, says Putin does not exist!

[Krasnodar]

Well, read any economic calculations on the export of Israel, the economy of Israel, etc. - in any language. Russian, English, Hebrew, Arabic)). There is gas. Phosphates - is. Minerals - there is. Oil - no)).

[Dog]

Quote: Krasnodar

read

Baba Klara also answered me

[Dog]

Production (US federal statistics):

https://www.eia.gov/international/data/world/petroleum-and-other-liquids/annual-refined-petroleum-products-production?pd=5&p=0000000000000000000000000000000000bg&u=0&f=A&v=mapbubble&a=-&i=none&vo=value&t=C&g=none&l=249--111&s=946684800000&e=1483228800000&

By the way, a sharp 4-fold increase in oil production in Israel in 2011 looks funny. Jews say that it was Meged that earned that year. But it should be remembered that, for example, in Syria in 2011, the conflict began. The question arises - does Meged exist at all? Or is it such cashing for the terrorist oil industry?

[Krasnodar]

Your link contains big numbers and a giant increase - from 0.1 to 0,4
Compare the data with ... Egypt - there is little oil there and what do we see on your site? The indicator for 2011 is 1))
Now - oil trade through Bulgaria (presumably IG-shnuyu) - it was handled by - Turks, Israelis, former / near / possibly real Rosneft dealers, etc. Now - Syrian oil production - all, 360 million dollars, if we count in prices for today. IG sold oil say 5 times cheaper. Such oil was also traded at a discount - like Rostov Coal today))). There were a lot of dealers on it - and do you seriously think that Israel did this at the state level? The country has only income from medical tourism exceed the sum of the total production of Syrian oil at normal prices. And its export, as well as production - NO)).

[Dog]

Quote: Krasnodar

from 0.1 to 0,4 laughing
Compare the data with ... Egypt - there is little oil there and what do we see on your site? The indicator for 2011 is 1))

This is not my site - but the site of the US Federal Statistical Service. And according to this service, there is still production in Israel.

Quote: Krasnodar

And its export

There is export too. Just do not look at crude oil, but petroleum products.

More questions?

[Krasnodar]

I crude oil and watched - production - minuscule
No export
Oil products - Azerbaijani refined at the Haifa refinery

[Dog]

Quote: Krasnodar

Oil products - Azerbaijani refined at the Haifa refinery

Not all. Naturally, I can substantiate this statement too.
But first, I want you to start substantiating your words. And then, excuse me, they have already "enlightened" us, based on their own, to put it mildly, not entirely accurate worldview - and oil is not produced in Israel, and the scheme with the sale of ISIS oil for Israel is impossible, etc. etc. But in reality everything turns out quite differently. So I ask for further justification.

[Krasnodar]

You show ridiculous amounts of oil production that do not allow export. There is no connection with the trading of IG oil here Ai do casuistry in its purest form)).

[Dog]

Quote: Krasnodar

ridiculous amounts of oil production

You do not have so much. Respect other people's numbers.
Someone had a turnover of 125 million (in rubles hereinafter) a year, and it became 0,5 billion a year. I think these guys were not upset at all. And it doesn’t matter that the industry as a whole is a penny.
What is not a reason for cooperation with ISIS for the greedy villain? In the end: here - half a yard, there - half a yard, and Abramchik has a new house!

Quote: Krasnodar

not allowing export

Tell me, how much starting oil is allowed, in your opinion, to export? Not tired of telling nonsense?

So. From you the justification that at the Israeli refinery all the oil is Azerbaijani. After that I will prove the opposite to you. Go?

[Krasnodar]

Demagogy
Israeli exports of 110 billion tanks per year, or about 7 trillion rubles per annum
There were a lot of greedy villains there - and Turks and Amers and British and Russians. )))
At Abramchik, and without three cents of Syrian oil, everything is openwork, since the Israeli apartment cleaner earns no less than the Moscow engineer Oil is exported from the volume of collection jars)).
Did you relate to the oil industry?

[Dog]

Quote: Krasnodar

Demagogy

You forgot to put a colon after this word.

[Krasnodar]

Ага.
By the way, do you know that the average apartment in Tel Aviv costs about 70 million? )))

[Dog]

Sorry, I think you were blown away

[Krasnodar]

I?
It seems to you )).

[Dog]

I insist!

[Krasnodar]

Quote: Dog

I insist!

Well convinced)).

[atalef]

Quote: Tatiana

Well, you ask your Israelis on the site "VO"!
For example, Atalef!

interestingly, what did you think up there Tatyana?

Quote: Tatiana

working as a manager in an Israeli port

Am I in the port?
Tatyana, have you never understood where I work for so many years of our correspondence meeting?

Quote: Tatiana

in a dispute with me, he argued that Israel trades with other countries exclusively with its "Israeli" oil

come on . Tatyana do not drive, where is the oil in Israel?

Quote: Tatiana

, and if he buys oil abroad, only "Turkish"!

Tatyana, is it only on Saturdays, a day of fairy tales or year-round?

Quote: Tatiana

Atalef and I always understood each other as they should.

I already understood how you understand me right, starting with

Quote: Tatiana

Which at the time, working as a manager in the Israeli port

[IS-80_RVGK2]

Shalands brought atalef full mullet to Haifa.

[Salty]

Quote: IS-80_RVGK2

Scows full of mullet

autocephaly

[igor67]

Quote: Tatiana

Quote: Krasnodar

Where did Israel get its own oil, Tatyana? )))

Well, you ask your Israelis on the site "VO"!
For example, Atalef! Who at that time, working as a manager in an Israeli port - in an office, from which the entire port and the pier, as in a palm of your hand - argued in a dispute with me on this matter that Israel trades with other countries exclusively only its "Israeli" oil and no more, and if he buys oil abroad, only "Turkish"!

Tatyana, your horses have mixed up to the heap, since I do not drink once from Atalef, then Haifa Port is also visible from the balcony of his apartment, but he works as he wrote more than once in the electric company and never as a manager.

[Tatyana]

Quote: igor67

Tatyana, your horses have mixed up to the heap, since I do not drink once from Atalef, then Haifa Port is also visible from the balcony of his apartment, but he works as he wrote more than once in the electric company and never as a manager.

They said nothing about the electric company in that conversation. This was not the emphasis then, but on "Turkish" oil to Israel from Turkey / ISIS and "Israeli" oil then abroad. The media then was full of this information.

and never a manager.

What should I do? I lied, then Atalef to me - for the sake of solidity! What kind of man doesn’t this happen to? So be it - forgive him for that! I do not hold evil personally against him.

[atalef]

Quote: Tatiana

This was not the emphasis then, but on "Turkish" oil to Israel from Turkey / ISIS and "Israeli" oil then abroad.

Type I claimed?

Quote: Tatiana

What should I do? I lied, then Atalef to me - for the sake of solidity!

Solidarity with whom and what lied?
Tatiana, you scare me.

Quote: Tatiana

So be it - I forgive him for that

Not good to lie. Tatyana.
It's a shame in your years.

[cost]

Quote: Krasnodar: Where did Israel get its own oil, Tatyana? )))

Quote: Tatiana Well, you ask your Israelis on the site "VO"! For example, Atalef! Who at that time, working as a manager in an Israeli port - in an office, from which the whole port and the marina, as in a palm of your hand - argued in a dispute with me on this matter that Israel trades with Assad exclusively only its "Israeli" oil and nobody else

Quote:] igor67 (Igor): Tatyana, your horses mixed up to the heap, since I do not drink from Atalef many times, then Haifa port is also visible from the balcony of his apartment, but he works as he wrote more than once in an electric company and never as a manager.

Here is just such a case when absolutely everything is right.
Atalef, working for an electric company, invented a unique way to process spent electrolyte. As a result of processing, two fractions are obtained at once: one is high-quality oil, and the other is the best chihir in all BV. Syria buys from Atalef both.
A signal for Assad about preparing a consignment of goods is a view from the port of Haifa to the balcony of Atalef’s apartment. If Igor drinks with Atalef there, then the goods are already ready. And moreover, mind you, not stolen, but exclusively your Israeli. In general, everything is legal.
Photo of the next buyer with the goods

[Tatyana]

Quote: Krasnodar

Question - Is Israel here sideways? )))

Add more.
Israel, with the existing ISIS and Ishilov’s, has turned into the sale of its own oil abroad almost into an oil power. It was chickens to laugh, because THIS was understandable WHY!

[Krasnodar]

Quote: Tatiana

Add more.
Israel, with the existing ISIS and Ishilov’s, has turned into the sale of its own oil abroad almost into an oil power. It was chickens to laugh, because THIS was understandable WHY!

Is Israel an oil power? Selling OWN OIL ???
Tatyana, you cheer me up

[Tatyana]

Quote: Krasnodar

Tatyana, you cheer me up

And you are not to me! Explaining something serious to you is like forehead and forehead!

[atalef]

Quote: Tatiana

Explaining something serious to you is like forehead and forehead!

Recommend . Tatyana, you’ll stop sleeping with this book.

[Krasnodar]

That's right. Especially so serious

[atalef]

Quote: Tatiana

Israel, with the existing ISIS and Ishilov’s, has turned into the sale of its own oil abroad almost into an oil power

Quote: Tatiana

since THIS was understandable WHY!

Of course it’s clear. Tatyana woke up in the morning and so decided.

[Krasnodar]

Atalef and Igor!
You simply do not understand the whole essence of the hateful ideology of the founding of Israel - Zionism-Tadmorizm Chabad - the Lubavitcher persuasion, which professes the IDF. The Levites and Cohens, who are at the head of Mishmar HaGuul, the fighting wing of the Tel-Barukh Hasidim, have long found oil in Israel, but they hide it from ordinary Jews. Money from the sale of oil, through a special fund of Ivanka Kushnir, open for disguise as the sister of Hilary Clinton, Barbara Streisand, went to the creation of ISIS, which, capturing the vast Syrian deposits of black gold, allowed Nakhman to leave Uman in first place in oil trading. This was told to me by the assistant professor of the Department of Gender Equality of the Institute of Cotton Production in the city of Ivanov at the lectures “Gray's Sexuality Scale” in the light of Marxism-Leninism!

[atalef]

Quote: Krasnodar

The Levites and Cohens, who are at the head of Mishmar HaGuul, the military wing of the Tel-Barukh Hasidim, have long found oil in Israel
NG hide it from ordinary Jews.

Quote: Krasnodar

allowed Nakhman to leave Uman for first place in oil trading

now it’s clear why they dance all the time

Quote: Krasnodar

Told me about it Doctor of historical sciences Departments of Gender Equality of the Institute of Cotton Production in the city of Ivanov at the lectures “Gray's Sexuality Scale” in the light of Marxism-Leninism!

This is the institute where Tatyana works as a rector.
she told me.

[Pissarro]

The fact that you treated barmaley and contained no secret. But what did you do to Assad’s soldiers, could you give more details?

[Krasnodar]

One can
https://www.1tv.ru/news/2015-11-18/7150-izrailskie_vrachi_besplatno_lechat_ranenyh_siriytsev
The plot of the first channel
At first, Israel agreed to accept a peacekeeper - because of the collapse of the health care system in Syria, which in the best years was not known for particular success
Then, the wounded barmaley began to be brought to the border - Israel also accepted them
After which, with the success of the SAA offensive in the Golan area, began to deliver wounded Assad soldiers
The Israeli press began to wonder - who pays for it? The answer is simple - Israeli taxpayer

[gmb]

Hey dear why do you demand the impossible

[NordUral]

It’s logical, Tatyana, but I somehow forgot about oil and green papers from indignation from the impudence of this undersulting.

[Sgan]

The fact is that without taking into account the vigorous bomb, Perdogan will have more strength, I would not advise Russia to butt him

[Wyoming15]

You also have a stigma in the cannon. Either the Turks trade oil with ISIS, then they strike a treacherous blow in the back, then they are your friends and partners, S-400, gas, nuclear power plants, and so on. There was nothing to flirt with them.

[figwam]

Erdogan asked Putin to leave Ankara "one on one" with Damascus

5 years ago, Russian troops came to Syria so that Damascus would not be left alone with world terrorism. What Erdogan requires is unacceptable.

[Adimius38]

What Erdogan demands is to surrender all Russian positions in Syria, leave Russian bases and get out of Syria, in fact, Erdogan offers Russia to raise their hands, to nullify all Russian efforts in the fight against terrorism, to make the death of Russian children in Syria in vain. You can add here to merge the Syrian ally and lose your face in the entire Middle East and in the world, that’s what Erdogan offers to Russia. To nullify all the efforts of Russian diplomacy over many years on the Syrian issue, including chemical weapons invented by the Americans as an excuse

[Ovrag]

There is no regular army in Syria. Therefore, the Syrian military is a wild mixture of different peoples of the region on a voluntary-monetary basis, fighting SPECIFICALLY for Assad. Syrians are Shiites, Syrians are Alawites, Iraqis are Shiites, volunteers from Iran. Russian, European and American mercenaries, etc., etc. In general, this is a rather motley crowd. Only part of which is local.
Well, yes it's all lyrics. Shiites, Sunnis, diverse ethnic groups have been slaughtering each other there for more than a thousand years since the collapse of the Arab caliphate. Common hatred of Israel sometimes unites them, but they quickly return to their original state.
I don’t understand why to get into their internecine clashes with the Turkmens, etc. Russia has reached its goals. And in the endless local meat grinder, even the United States does not have the strength to participate. You also naively believed that right now they would put things in order there. Yeah. Shchaz. Pointed. Three times.
But then they have already passed the period of development of local specifics. And now they prefer to sit out at the bases. Thinking, as it were, more delicate to dump from there. And in general, it is realistically every year they slowly fade from there, clearly looking for someone to throw this headache on.
Just as the British dumped from there after BB2. With the words "take responsibility for someone else, we are all."
In general, history does not teach anyone.

[Adimius38]

Yes, far from all the goals Russia has fulfilled in Syria. From two bases under an agreement with Assad, we will be kicked into one place as soon as it is merged, all economic agreements between the Syrian legal government and Russia can then be pushed into one place, and there are many agreements there, and thanks to Russia's support for Assad, he granted Russia really huge powers in Syria in all areas. The fight against terrorism will not be completed and in five years we will receive an army of terrorists at the time of 2015. We are ready for this to wind up fishing rods and get out with our hands up, then go ahead. Only then do not whine when they will be on our heads and wipe our feet about us. If we came to Syria, then we must stand there by the wall. Or then there was no sense of this long-term Russian participation in Syria

[Ovrag]

The main task. Don't give Qatar and co. lay the pipeline - done. Russia will not get any other economic and political goodies out of there. In this land now another 50 years of money to invest. That there would be some kind of profit. And most likely everything will go to one place there with the arrival of the next "president", whom half of the population will refuse to support. For he is "of the wrong religion" or "of the wrong ethnos."
Syria problem. Like the problem of many other post-colonial countries, their borders were drawn without paying attention to local ethnic and religious divisions. And if in some thread of Turkey the process of pulling many peoples into one country lasted for centuries and as a result, most of the empire fell apart, but at least there was a core that already considered itself Turks to the bone. Then here, just once, people themselves, without deciding in any way, ended up in the same country, which is why it was so convenient for the colonialists. The result of this is never long in coming.

[Ovrag]

Technically. Passion could be reduced, if it had been possible, to reduce at least the influence of a religious schism. It is difficult for us who go to church once a year (at best) to understand how fundamental a gap in the perception of religion lies in the minds of those who pray three times a day.
But secular power in Syria will not be able to completely feel safe until Iran is completely theocratic to the bone. And the clash with Iran ... In general, I doubt that at least one of the participants in the conflict has an understanding of how to solve this problem.

[Nikolay3]

Quote: Adimius38

Yes, far from all the goals Russia has fulfilled in Syria. From two bases under an agreement with Assad, we will be kicked into one place as soon as it is merged, all economic agreements between the Syrian legal government and Russia can then be pushed into one place, and there are many agreements there, and thanks to Russia's support for Assad, he granted Russia really huge powers in Syria in all areas.

Do you propose starting a war with Turkey? Or suggest something else?

[Adimius38]

I do not propose starting a war with Turkey, but also not sitting in the bushes with my tail in the tail to watch our feet wiping about us. We have too many show-offs and idle talk.

[Wolf]

Threads Evil, the British dumped the threads of Franky otuda, only wisdom colonized BV! Assad kept Siri in order until DEMONCRATORS arrived, as did Gaddafi Liviu, or Hussein Iraq, this is nonsense that you wrote!

[knn54]

The Sultan continues to declare: Assad must be overthrown. By 2023, Northern Syria and Northern Iraq should belong to Turkey.
Alas, but it’s time for Erdogan to present an ultimatum.
PS All the same, Suleymani is not enough.

[Sgan]

The fact is that without taking into account the vigorous bomb, Perdogan will have more strength, I would not advise Russia to butt him

[evgenii67]

In Kiev, millions of armies destroyed)

and you think why there is no Almaty in the army ??? In fact, the T-14 from the age of 15 in the arsenal of the Russian army, it was simply burned by hundreds in the Donbass)

[Prisoner]

Well this is a matter of time. Soon he’ll have a bill for hundreds of thousands, until his brains are set.

[Vodrak]

Wait, soon Buryat horse divers will reach

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: Sky Strike fighter

We destroyed more than 2100 Syrian military, 300 units of military transport, seven chemical depots. And we will continue to destroy them

- he said.

Well, Erdik’s imagination. Chemical depots were used. It’s good that not 2100000 Syrian military men. And thanks for that.

Remembered

- Three tape recorders, three movie cameras abroad, three domestic cigarette cases, a suede jacket ... three ... (C)

[Deniska999]

And when our people talk about thousands of warehouses, does this mean true?

[TermNachTer]

Yeah, the storyteller is the same. It's time to change the name to Andersen. It is necessary to lie believably, the whole world smiles from his statements.

[Fantazer911]

So the warehouses were discovered after the call of Rajep to Trump Trump and said where the warehouses with chemical weapons are, the east is a muddy matter, Trump knows a lot about this!

[Mar.Tirah]

Quote: Scipio

Turkey is at war with the Assad regime, and we don’t support the Assad regime !?

Do I have another proposal? If Turkey is gouged like Syria, then I agree to leave them face to face, subject to our influence in the Middle East. And there we will see which one it will take?

[kjhg]

Quote: Mar. Tira

If Turkey is gouged like Syria, then I agree to leave them face to face

Good suggestion

[Grits]

Quote: Mar. Tira

Do I have another proposal? If Turkey is gouged like Syria, then I agree to leave them face to face, subject to our influence in the Middle East. And there we will see which one it will take?

And now it looks like a well-groomed tenth-grader is approaching a first-grader (who already has a mom and a boy thumped at home, sometimes fights and doesn’t always eat) and at the same time says to the policeman - uncle is a policeman, do not intervene, step aside. We are now dealing with him one on one manly.

[RVAPatriot]

When I just read the headline without even reading the text, the same thought arose ... Probably fun to butt with a weakened country, although the Turks are as usual ... History shows that they fight only with global superiority of forces ...

[gmb]

Especially with the Russian Empire

[Paranoid50]

Quote: gmb

with the Russian Empire

And with the Russian Empire too A.V. Suvorov, F.F. Ushakov, I.S. Nakhimov and our other generals and naval commanders confirm. They beat (and beat) the Turk not by number, but by skill. The Turks, on the other hand, fall into the crowd - the first thing.

[gmb]

I mean, the Turks did not have global superiority, though there were not many victories, unlike the high-profile defeats, I did not read the Turkish course within the course of history.

[Paranoid50]

Quote: gmb

Turks didn’t have global superiority,

And then often local victories determined the winner in the war, and sometimes peace was signed as soon as it was broken. That is, nothing new, except for the current "hybridity" of wars.

[Stalllker]

We support a legitimately elected president, not a regime

[Grits]

Quote: Stalllker

We support a legitimately elected president, not a regime

Why don't we start calling the Turkish government and the rest of their authorities "Erdogan's regime" everywhere? Let him get nervous, ask why such an injustice and explain why he is better than Assad?

[Stalllker]

The idea is sound, Volodya should call and offer))

[Alexey Sommer]

Can not.)
By the fact that it is dependent on it in the southern stream for the main overview, not counting the nuclear power plant and not counting the C400.
Russia, this is not the USSR, we are embedded in the global economy.
It was Gromyko who could say that if the Bosphorus is closed, we will do two new ones next to it, but Istanbul will no longer be there. The nones have a thin gut. Best of all, Primakov said about this power: "The time of the brave is over, the time of the brave has begun."
Pinched Erdogag, our alpha males are grabbed by the eggs so that juice flows on the hand and squeaks.
Not for that the USSR was destroyed by these guys, so that they would lose everything now. IMHO.

[Terenin]

Erdogan: And until the people ask us to leave, we will not leave there. I told Putin: leave us with a one-on-one regime, we ourselves will do what we need

The famous alcoholic artist, when asked to drink, replied loudly, "Oh, leave it!"

[Incvizitor]

Maybe then the Turks topple and leave their terrorists face to face with Syria?

[protoss]

this was before our arrival, and Assad then lost

[Alex Nevs]

Well, what? It can be said. But to do ..... let them guess.

[Muddy Seeing ORACLE]

It was not necessary to get too close to the Turks, this is another mentality of the people who can poke a knife in the back without blinking an eye. An ideal solution for Russia would be to recall its ambassador and advise the Turks not to interfere in the affairs of Russia in Syria, to clean up (bearded) industrial terror. Otherwise, there are many adequate alternatives ...

[Livonetc]

"The doctor acted for the good ...
It is a pity that the benefit is not mine ... "
Ottoman lands collector ...
It is doubtful that Erdogan hopes for Russia to step aside.

[210ox]

On Russia's departure to the side? And here is how to know. Recently loot overpowered ..

[alien]

What will happen if Turkey follows the agreements between Russia and Turkey in the Idlib de-escalation zone everyone knows:
- Separation of the normal opposition from the terrorists.
- Demilitarization of the inner belt in the Idlib zone in such a way that no one could fire at Syrian positions, the Russian military base from there and ensure the unhindered use of the highways that passed through this zone.

But what will happen if Turkey does not follow these agreements?
- The Syrian army has every right to respond to terrorist strikes on its sovereign territory.
- "Unjustified attack" on Turkish observation posts.
- US condemned "strike on Turkish troops" and expressed full support for Turkey
- Dozens of tanks, Buk air defense systems were shot down: the General Staff of the Turkish Armed Forces announced a strike on the SAA in Idlib.

In general, the forum member HAM (Igor Nikolaevich) expressed a sound point of view:
“Erdogan himself is pouring water on the American mill and therefore they need it ... as soon as there are signs of reconciliation, wait for either protests in Turkey or even a military coup ... In my opinion, Erdogan still got to the Yankees to cook”.

[Rusticolus]

Quote: Alien

In general, the forum member HAM (Igor Nikolaevich) expressed a sound point of view:
“Erdogan himself is pouring water on the American mill and therefore they need it ... as soon as there are signs of reconciliation, wait for either protests in Turkey or even a military coup ... In my opinion, Erdogan still got to the Yankees to cook”.

A good idea, by the way. Make peace now with Edorgan, and then, when the protests begin, instead of intervening, fight in a place with the United States with the regime of Edorgan. Interestingly, in this situation, how soon will Edorgan play in the box?

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: Rusticolus

A good idea, by the way. Make peace now with Edorgan, and then, when the protests begin, instead of intervening, fight in a place with the United States with the regime of Edorgan. Interestingly, in this situation, how soon will Edorgan play in the box?

The idea is good, the execution will be bad again. Again the Maidan, again the revolution, in the end we will get another Ukraine at the borders. We are honest, like pioneers - we will not interfere in the "choice of the Turkish people". And the Americans are cheaters and do not burden themselves with morality, so we will get another Ukraine, and maybe even Iraq or Libya. Or, God forbid, Syria.

[novel66]

hell! But you can’t just get out of the territory of a foreign state and finish to crap oneself ??

[Crystal of Truth]

Putin and Russia?

[Spektr]

Quote: Crystal of Truth

hell! But you can’t just get out of the territory of a foreign state and finish to crap oneself ??

This, by the way, applies to you "Crystal of Lies".

[novel66]

for those who are deaf in the tank: the Russian armed forces are in Syria at the invitation of the legitimate government, whatever you think about it, my dear Turkoman!

[Spektr]

These are not Turkomans - these are Turkish deceptions or morons.

[novel66]

whatever you call it - their essence will not change from this

[Terenin]

Quote: Spectrum

These are not Turkomans - these are Turkish deceptions or morons.

Turkoman hackers first got on the net, ten of them were killed immediately. 220 volts - this is not a joke to you

[novel66]

Chukchi smarter, definitely! Gene!

[Lelek]

Quote: novel xnumx

But you can’t just get out of the territory of a foreign state and end up churning out?

Conflict node for today:

Here the matter is tied to Erdogan's precarious position in Turkey. If he gives the command to leave the territory of Syria, he will sign a death sentence for himself from the opposition, which is fed by the same Americans. If he is defeated in Idlib, the result will be the same. So-that - "fork", and what the "candidate for the sultan" will decide on, Allah has not yet announced.

[novel66]

Hello! Well, if ours harness the same? ground operation without air support - rout, and again maiden name!

[Lelek]

Quote: novel xnumx

ground operation without air support - rout, and again maiden name!

The SAR has closed the skies over the country for everyone except the Russian Aerospace Forces and the Air Force of the republic. The Turks send drones from their territory, which the SAR air defenses shoot down, which makes the Sultan very nervous. he does not have spy satellites, and here again we must turn to the United States and NATO. Turkey can support the "cocktail" of its janissaries and "bearded men" in the province of Idlib from its territory without violating the air border. And the air defense of Syria and our VKS in this case are practically powerless.

[carstorm 11]

he has a window of opportunity to solve everything quietly and everyone will be in the black. only at such a pace will it soon close.

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: Lelek

So-that - "fork", and what the "candidate for the sultan" will decide on, Allah has not yet announced.

For Erdogan personally, Allah sits in Washington. Tell you what to do, give time.

Only sure that we will not like it.

[kjhg]

Map of the week ago. The M-5 highway under the Turks from almost Maaret-en-Numan to the borders of the province of Aleppo. in the south of Idlib, a ledge, east of Maatet-en-Numan and up to the mountain hills, is already under the Syrians

[voyaka uh]

"Conflict node for today" ///
----
This is not today, but two weeks ago.
Today things are better in Aleppo, and worse in Idlib.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: novel xnumx

hell! But you can’t just get out of the territory of a foreign state and end up churning out?

The most reasonable offer.

[NordUral]

I correctly understood that the Turks, the Americans and all the Europeans, who climb into the Middle East, Roman, should be blamed?

[novel66]

absolutely! The reason for a foreign military presence may be either an invitation to a legitimate government or a UN mandate (although I no longer trust them)

[ABM]

The problem is that the Assad government is not recognized as legal either in the USA, or in Turkey, or in Europe, or in the Middle East. 13% of the Alawites are by no means the majority of the population. So we would have to get out of there and not climb, although, of course, it is too late. People do not want to live in Assad Syria. They flee wherever they can, join local militias and the ranks of the opposition. That’s the whole truth that they don’t want to hear here.

[carstorm 11]

you already managed to interrogate all Syrians what to make these statements?)

[cniza]

Quote: novel xnumx

hell! But you can’t just get out of the territory of a foreign state and finish to crap oneself ??

Even the devils don’t take it, but seriously, cynicism and arrogance are going wild!

[Sergey39]

"Erdogan noted that" Ankara does not understand Moscow's intentions on Syria. "
Which is slow-witted. Until you poke your face.

[novel66]

It has long been said:

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

After the successful use of UAVs, Turkey did not ask, but demanded that Russia get out of Idlib.

No words, just a shame, at such a pace, the Turks will soon demand Crimea from us.

But we have a Peresvet laser complex, it is so powerful and scary that even we are afraid to use it, but it is not clear why then we spent so much money on it ?! S-300 delivered to Syria and what ?! Where at least, something brought down by this complex ?!

UAVs cannot be removed from the sky, modern super-duper Su-35 and our other wunderwaffes are super duper !!!

It is also annoying that they are trying to pass off the failure of the Idlib assault as a victory, which means that those mediocrity who made a miscalculation will not only not be punished, but they will also be awarded.

[Crystal of Truth]

Do we have drone drills by the way? In service

[Zaurbek]

Not yet .... we have manned

[Narak-zempo]

Manned attack drones. Because "they are not there (in the cabins)."

[Sky strike fighter]

Turkey is particularly successful in using drones in Libya. There is now a real dronopad.

On February 28, Haftar’s troops shot down 6 Turkish reconnaissance and strike UAVs in the Tripoli area.
Among the destroyed, according to the LNA command, 4 shock "Bayraktar", at least one of which was destroyed by "Pantsir" and 2 light reconnaissance drones. In this situation, Turkey has already lost 5 Bayraktar ships near Tripoli in a week.

https://colonelcassad.livejournal.com/5674128.html

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

I didn’t see a bunch of UAVs sold in Libya, but as Turkey saw the upcoming Syrian troops to smithereens, there were a lot of videos on the net.

As in a computer game, Turkey turned Russian equipment into bundles of scrap metal.

Turkey, with an army 8 times smaller than the Russian one and a budget 5 times smaller than the army.

They teach us fools of Russia - do shock UAVs, do KAZ on tanks, no, it doesn't reach us.

Tomorrow, Georgia and the Baltic states will dictate where we should remove our troops.

[carstorm 11]

What is shameful here? he can demand anything. only who will give him that)))) the failure of the assault on Idlib? what are you talking about?

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

the failure of the assault on Idlib? what are you talking about?

I about it here -



Or do you think this is a victory ?!

Just think about it - Turkey in the airspace of Syria, which is controlled by the latest Russian Su-35, Su-30, Su-34, S-400/300, Armor, electronic warfare systems, AWACS aircraft and so on, bombed with UAVs on the positions of the Syrian army and laid out this is for all to see !!!

It is impossible to imagine the worst shame.

Turkish UAVs are bought by Ukraine, that is, tomorrow we will see commercials as the APU does the same with the Donbass militia.

And against the backdrop of this, our people are trying to pretend that everything is fine, there Erdogan asks for something, but he doesn’t ask yet, but demands - he called Putin, asked if he saw the video as Turkey crumbling the SSA, and warned that if Russia doesn’t if Idlib left, the same thing would happen with our bases in Khmeinim and Latakia.

[kventinasd]

Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan

Or do you think this is a victory ?!

Such videos on the internet - a carriage with a trolley.
Here is a better look. what can the videoconferencing in Syria.
And if the Turks with their barmaley cross the permissible boundaries, then it will be the same with them, and maybe worse.

[carstorm 11]

I asked what was the failure? and secondly, we are fighting with Turkey to use our forces? there is reality but there are Wishlist. they usually vary. we balance on the line so that we don’t forget our interests. tie with pathos. everyone can walk like an elephant in a china shop. and to decide on the normal is an art.

[Nikolay3]

Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan

Just think about it - Turkey in the airspace of Syria, which is controlled by the latest Russian Su-35, Su-30, Su-34, S-400/300, Armor, electronic warfare systems, AWACS aircraft and so on, bombed with UAVs on the positions of the Syrian army and laid out this is for all to see !!!

What horror you write! Poorly versed in technology and don't know what radar line of sight is?
V.V. Putin is fulfilling agreements with Turkey, which they began to violate. And many videos on the Internet are fakes, including the defeat of the Shell-C1, which occurred in Libya due to crew errors - to allow UAVs to the funnel of the dead zone of the SOC antenna system - probably hookah smoked or turned on the Shell-C1 later? And in your video material - the absence or small quantity of the Shell-C1 air defense system in the advancing SAA troops - an error in the command of the SAA.

Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan

... that if Russia does not leave Idlib, then the same will happen with our bases in Khmeinim and Latakia.

Then Turkey will cease to exist on the world map ...

Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan

Turkish UAVs are bought by Ukraine, that is, tomorrow we will see commercials as the APU does the same with the Donbass militia.

Do not worry! Then the Donbass militias will receive the "Verba" MANPADS, which easily hits the UAV and Pantsiri-S1.

[Nikolay3]

Not correctly put it - right, Donbass militias will also receive MANPADS
"Verba" and SAM Pantsiri-S1 ...

[Azazelo]

And where are these oligophrenics grown ??? Where are you located?

[serzh.kost]

in fact, Putin has already left Syria face to face with Turkey. Aviation is not used, ours just stepped aside. Lavrov mutters something under his breath. something this all reminds me, isn’t it 2014?
and it’s not only because there is nobody or nothing to fight. Haftar knocks down these drones in batches. although there are no doubt military miscalculations. Well, Putin is not ready to go on a serious aggravation, what can I do, this is reality. the same Zaevfratye and the north of Syria are also not released.
and do not be too dramatic and screaming everything is gone. panic and decadent sentiment were never helpful in warfare.

[Sky strike fighter]

in fact, Putin has already left Syria alone with Turkey

Where is the logic? Why then Erdogan asks to leave Syria alone with Turkey, if in your opinion Putin has already left it?

Aviation is not used, ours just stepped aside.

Who told you that?

something this all reminds me, isn’t it 2014?

Forgot for whom the year 2014 was successful? Or are you alluding to boilers for the Turkish army?

[serzh.kost]

in fact, the only obstacle to the full-scale offensive of the Turkish army is the no-fly zone for aviation. Erdogan wants to remove this seal.
and it’s not worth focusing on his words, he speaks a lot and he is also a populist.

and you look at the reports from the front, how many times the last 48 hours have been used by Russian aviation and where.

and for whom was 2014 more successful? Our Crimea, but there were no other options. They encouraged the inhabitants of Donbass, promising to protect the Russians wherever they are and then what? only at the last moment they decided to save. Yes, the ruin army burned down in the boilers, and then what? the attack was stopped, the Novorossiya project was closed, daily shelling and the death of the defenders of Donbass and civilians. people there are almost forced to survive, do you know what pensions and salaries are there?
so the big question is for whom that year was more successful.

[carstorm 11]

what does it mean where? and you look at the statements of the Turks who crushed their soldiers. at the same time, remember which airplane several days ago, MANPADS worked. why are you showing your awareness here supposedly while being completely off topic?

[serzh.kost]

By the way, a very interesting conclusion follows from yesterday’s reports of our officials, which few people paid attention to. At the moment, the entire system of CAA attacks on the enemy works like this:
1. The Syrians are asking the local curator that an enemy has been detected in square 65 on snail 8 and asking if it is possible to strike.
2. The local curator asks his superiors in Khmeimim whether it is possible to strike.
3. The authorities in Khmeimim contact the Turkish representative and ask if there are 65 Turkish soldiers in square 8 of the snail?
4. Judging by the quotes, such a request is made REPEATED to avoid friendly fire (: glasses:), probably the Turks are doing everything to delay the answer.
5. Further, suppose the Turks answer that "no, we are not there" and the permit goes in reverse order to a specific battery. The battery strikes, but probably many have already guessed that there is no one in that place, because the Turks warn their bearded ones about the blow.
6. If the Turks answer that we are there (we passed by with the aim of "work on de-escalation in the de-escalation zone"), then the strike is canceled (Lavrov: "Our main task is to ensure the security of the Turkish Armed Forces in the de-escalation zone").
In fact, the CAA is bound hand and foot. Under these conditions, the defeat of the Turks occurs exclusively as a result of independent actions of the Syrian commanders on the ground, or when the Turks, for some reason, did not report their whereabouts, but did not manage to evacuate from the shelling sector. At the same time, the Turks themselves absolutely do not bind themselves with any obligations, of course they do not inform anyone about their blows and strike them wherever they want and on whom they want. "

[carstorm 11]

actually it has been all these years. always everything went along a long chain for too many players there. such a war now. as for being tied hand, do not forget that all weapons and reconnaissance and other things are given to our Syrians. and make statements like we inhibit their complete stupidity. do you think Syrians are developing all offensive plans?

[serzh.kost]

anyway, the situation in Idlib is lousy in my opinion and there are no prerequisites for improvement. Do you disagree?
ok, I'm not in the subject, I will ask the one who is in the subject. What are your further forecasts?

[Andrey the Magnificent]

And the key to the apartment, where the money is! ??
Not good! ??

[Aliken]

Why on earth. The US and the EU asked Putin about this, but some kind of janissary complainant. Donut hole, not Sharapov.

[Kleber]

He is a clown, not a janissary.

[paul3390]

Interesting - and if we say we invade Turkey at the request of the long-suffering Kurdish people? At the same time, not fighting the Turkish people, but only personally with Erdogan? Ottomans how will they react to this?

[Crystal of Truth]

Where will you invade .. Which Turkey? You Donbass could not protect .. In Slavyansk and Mariupol, what year are the Russian-speaking genocides, and you have all the pain about Syria

[paul3390]

But you squeezed the Crimea .. Because of what you now have a fierce popabole.

[Crystal of Truth]

Here he is such a Russian world .. Crimea was taken and in Donetsk and Lugansk do not care

[carstorm 11]

and you then what sadness?))) you know such an expression, without snotty we can figure it out?)))

[Crystal of Truth]

There is such a thing called conscience .. Here it is not in place ...
Sorry for the people who were taken hostage by one geopolitical player.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: paul3390

But you squeezed out the Crimea .. Because of what you now have a fierce popol.

Putin sitting by the fireplace
He covered everyone with a copper basin!
Goodbye, Ukraine!
Crimea was stolen from you ...

Peninsula floats away
Under the Russian star.
Referendum is very simple
It sends everyone into ... trouble!

Putin knows this thing
And beautiful without a trace
Captured easily and boldly
Key cities.

In vain the public is ready
Resent without end!
Vova put it on it,
Himself, from the Kremlin porch!

Let the GXNUMX reproach -
Like, we will punish - oh, oh!
Goodbye, Ukraine!
New Crimea is not yours!

[carstorm 11]

Well, Donbass costs the same), but what we have there is certainly not your business)

[open]

Quote: paul3390

Interesting - and if we say we invade Turkey at the request of the long-suffering Kurdish people? At the same time, not fighting the Turkish people, but only personally with Erdogan? Ottomans how will they react to this?

Like in Afghanistan.

[Lelek]

"I told Putin: leave us alone with the regime, we ourselves will do what is needed."

Erdogan believes that betrayal is a state norm, therefore Turkey will NEVER be a friend and ally of Russia. This is understood not only by us (Russia), but also by the alliance, which Turkey first spread rot and almost betrayed, and when she got her tail pinched, she begs for help. But traitors are not in anyone's honor.

[Isim soyad]

The NATO emergency meeting has ended. Stoltenberg: we will protect Turkey from the air - air attacks from Syria will stop (Yeni Şafak, Turkey)

The Secretary General of the Alliance noted that the Allies express their condolences to Turkey in connection with the tragedy that happened last night, as a result of which Turkey lost its military. Stoltenberg stressed that members of the alliance condemn this attack, committed by the military under the leadership of Bashar al-Assad. “We openly urge Russia and the regime to stop attacks, we urge Syria to comply with international law,” he said.

According to Stoltenberg, it is urgent to return to the ceasefire regime reached in 2018, otherwise the humanitarian crisis will worsen. NATO supports Turkey and sees it as a very valuable ally, he said. “Turkey is home to millions of refugees,” Stoltenberg continued. - NATO will support Turkey in several ways. Including air protection. This will stop the air attacks from Syria. We will continue to defend the southeastern border of NATO. ”

[Lelek]

According to Stoltenberg ...

This descendant of northern sea robbers said a lot during his "secretary general" period. Whoever pays the girl dances her, so everything from NATO will depend on the main "payer" and the EU's attitude to the situation in Syria (UN member, for a minute), but it is far from unambiguous and NATO itself is far from monolith.

[Isim soyad]

UN member? And where was the UN in many other conflicts? UN, this is the last one the United States obeys today UN, for all other UN, but not for NATO / USA.
EU? So everyone unanimously agreed, "NATO will support Turkey in several ways. Including by means of air defense."
And so, the majority of the dancers are paid by the USA, so he dances where he wants and with whom he wants.

[Lelek]

Quote: Isim Soyad

And so, the majority of the dancers are paid by the USA, so he dances where he wants and with whom he wants.

It is, but .... But Congress strongly recommended Trump not to get involved in a fight between Syria and Turkey, a majority of the lower house supported this recommendation. In addition, the highest officials of the US Defense Ministry spoke negatively to Trump's statement of aid to Turkey, and this is of great importance on the eve of the presidential election. Well, and blah blah you can't spread it on bread. By the way, there is at least a minimum of French opinions on Erdogan's actions, who filled out the French "net":

[Isim soyad]

All of this was expected and predictable. The Armenian lobby and the diaspora are doing their job, and even more so, especially in / in France.

[Lelek]

Quote: Isim Soyad

The Armenian lobby and the diaspora are doing their job, and even more so, especially in / in France.

Perhaps, in the appendage, sane French who are not indifferent to the fate of their Patrimony.

[Sergey39]

And in Europe they say that Erdogan in vain opened the borders for refugees. Greece blocked a NATO decision on this issue.

[Isim soyad]

And that was expected. But I don’t think the United States will just leave Turkey alone. Firstly, the reputation of NATO, and no matter how the second largest in NATO. If not even like NATO, but the United States, and if even a little, but what very worthwhile they will do. And so Turkey does not need anything except an open sky, and not whose support and help. In this situation, Turkey is superior to everyone in everything except the sky.

[cniza]

We destroyed more than 2100 Syrian military, 300 units of military transport, seven chemical depots. And we will continue to destroy them

Goebels is resting ...

[Lord of the Sith]

First there were threats, then demands, now a request.
There will be further complaints, then the acceptance of the fact that the Turks are not welcome in Syria, and if the Sultan is not completely dodik, he will be forced to withdraw his expeditionary force from the country.
The only question is, how many more innocent people will die?

[Jarserge]

Turkey’s stay in "the most non-aggressive military bloc" clearly affects the ideology of plunder. Aggression against a country in which a civil war is raging, for the sake of oil and new territorial acquisitions ... And then Russia interferes

[master 52]

rates are rising and February is ending. the most important thing is that our sky is held and in everything else, it once again became clear to everyone who is who

[TatarinSSSR]

The Turks have already lost the first heavy strike UAV ANKA-S near Idlib, it was shot down like Syrians. There, and his weapons - precision munitions were with him, went to the Syrians, and therefore ours.

"The Turkish army has lost its reconnaissance and strike drone in Syria. Images of the wreckage of a winged vehicle appeared on the Web. In the front of the UAV, the tail number 18031 and the designation ANK011 are clearly visible.
Precision munitions can be seen lying next to the fuselage in the released video footage. "
Source Bulletin of Mordovia.

[Wizzzard]

Quote: TatarinSSSR

Precision munitions can be seen lying next to the fuselage in the released video footage. "
Source Bulletin of Mordovia.

Another thing. It is from Mordovia, of course, more visible ...

[TatarinSSSR]

Actually, about Mordovia there is only in the name. The rest is a very rich geography of girth. Before making conclusions - go read. There is a lot about the Russian army. Teachings. Etc. Then write sarcasm.

[TatarinSSSR]

Chemical warehouses? He probably picked up the brain coronovirus ..... Although if the warehouses had bleach or detergents for disinfection (after all, the battle zone, corpses, etc.), then for a Turk it is a chemical warehouse ....

[Grits]

Quote: TatarinSSSR

Chemical warehouses? He probably picked up the brain coronovirus ..... Although if the warehouses had bleach or detergents for disinfection (after all, the battle zone, corpses, etc.), then for a Turk it is a chemical warehouse ....

Can't a household chemical store have its own warehouse? Can. Is it chemical? Chemical. Well, that's listed.

[TatarinSSSR]

Yes, tin. In such a way it is possible to declare schools as goals of a "chemical warehouse" - there are also lessons in CHEMISTRY, test tubes, substances, laboratory assistant. Or hospitals with pharmacies - there is chemistry in drugs ogogo. Even oil-producing facilities - everything there is also based on chemistry. Etc.

[tihonmarine]

We entered there not at the invitation of Assad, but at the invitation of the Syrian people. And until the people invite us to leave, we will not leave from there.

It’s interesting, in what, or in what document it is, maybe there was a referendum in Syria, or an appeal to the UN, and she approved them, or just the words of Edik’s idiot.

[Fat]

Quote: tihonmarine

We entered there not at the invitation of Assad, but at the invitation of the Syrian people. And until the people invite us to leave, we will not leave from there.

It’s interesting, in what, or in what document it is, maybe there was a referendum in Syria, or an appeal to the UN, and she approved them, or just the words of Edik’s idiot.

The comment panic began over the steepness of Turkish UAVs in order to divert attention from the fact that Erdogan had in fact OPENLY acknowledged that the Turkish army had joined forces with terrorists in order to overthrow the legitimate government of Syria.
SAA fought with terrorists, while many Turks were killed .....)))
Almost according to Chekhov's "complaint book"

[Strashila]

"Leave Ankara" face to face "with Damascus", well, let's leave it, then on which hundred of its servicemen to stop Turkey, only thanks to Russia it does not yet bear real losses.

[carstorm 11]

Well, if you think logically, then those losses that Turkey suffers immediately after shelling our MANPADS plane are by no means an accident)))

[matwey]

Very rarely I go to a forum to find out what is happening in the world. This is how such stupid people-analysts who write a post without realizing it get here.

Negative of FIG.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: matwey

Negative of FIG.

Such analysts are now divorced in darkness.

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

This is just the Idlib disgrace of Russia !!!

Turkey with an army 8 times smaller than that of Russia, with a defense budget 5 times smaller than that of Russia, they just smashed the upcoming SSA group that Russia supported !!!

Penny UAVs and penny-adjusted bombs.

Heads off shoulders after this should fly, not bravado in the media !!!
Erdogan doesn’t ask, but demands and sets the conditions for Russia, the nuclear power.

Shame and shame.

[Serg89]

What nonsense are you scribbling everywhere? Looks like these Arabs, who now and then yell something at the camera ... animals on emotions that spit saliva, and then under the post they sit under a skirt ...

[Salty]

You have a tantrum, accept valerianovki.

Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan

Turkey with an army 8 times smaller than Russia, with a defense budget 5 times smaller than Russia, just crushed the advancing SSA group that Russia supported

There is no "Russian army", where does the comparison of the number of armies and defense budgets? "To smithereens" - you have reviewed the rollers from the pipe, take all the valerianovka, accept ...

[lopvlad]

Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan

but demands and sets conditions for Russia

from Russia they always demanded something and set conditions from the Baltic to ordinary militants, and what of this?

[RVAPatriot]

Is this happening in Russia ?? Or do you propose in Syria to keep a grouping with a size comparable to the grouping of which thread of the district ?? If you think that the RVS can not cope, buy a plane ticket and help ... You will be happy at headquarters ...

[Azazelo]

Yeah, what else do you want? Maybe we should put the Iskanders better for Syria so that not a single Turkish airdrome is left ... for one more, and pind0s would be kicked to hell ...

[Olya Tsako]

It is time to appoint Semyon Baghdasarov as commander of all forces of the Temporary Limited Contingent of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation in Syria and to expel all aggressors and invaders from the borders of a sovereign member of the United States stricken by the Americans.

[KVK1]

correctly!
along with Kedmi and Korotchenko
let them show how to fight and expel!

[Crystal of Truth]

And Soloviev’s chief of staff, yeah ..

[orionvitt]

Ankara does not understand Moscow's intentions on Syria "

With his sultan's ambitions, Erdogash was completely dull. Doesn't understand, we will explain. And if cards with "chemical warehouses" were used, then the Turks did not have any trump cards at all.

[Incvizitor]

If this "people" do not like something, let them bring down to hell.

[Olya Tsako]

But in vain, then, in the ice cream did not put the extract of the liver of a bat.

[Rostislav]

Not only stupidity is limitless. The hypocrisy performed by the militant sultan is astounding.

[Vasily Ponomarev]

AFP: BREAKING: Erdogan says he asked Putin to 'get out of our way' in Idlib
Interfax: Erdogan asked Putin not to impede the actions of the Turkish military in Idlib
T - Difficulties in translation.

[TatarinSSSR]

Well, literally: Erdogan says that he asked Putin to "get out of our way" in Idlib

[Alevil]

Or maybe he still give the key to the apartment, where the money is?

[askort154]

We destroyed more than 2100 Syrian military, 300 units of military transport, seven chemical warehouses. And we will continue to destroy them

And then Erdogan suffered. The main bait for modern attacks on countries bypassing the UN is the presence of "chemical weapons". It does not matter where - in the "test tube", or in the videos of "white helmets", the main thing is to issue it to the media, and then "the whole world is for you."
Our unscrupulous gathering of "friends" once again poked our nose into ... jellied meat.

[arlekin]

How is it interesting for you here? People hanging out, dvizhuha, life is seething. And in Khabarovsk we have a routine, a classic: oil has fallen in price - gas has risen in price. 95 for 40 kopecks, although it was just at the end of December for 40 kopecks. rose. Although who cares?

[bear]

I’m wondering when the GDP will talk with Edik, ours will not surrender Syria as well as dombas.

[protoss]

like dombas and bambus

[anjey]

Russia needs to leave Turkey face to face with Syria and not intervene in the conflict.

Like, be like us Turks unprincipled and vane-treacherous ??? In fact, Erdig admitted that all this time Turkey was one side of the conflict with Syria, so what the hell is the position, the usual external aggression against Syria, just covered by world demagogy. After such work done in the fight against terrorism, something will recede he underestimates GDP.

[Ross xnumx]

The Syrian question is by no means an adventure or a desire to expand borders. We entered there not at the invitation of Assad, but at the invitation of the Syrian people. And until the people invite us to leave, we will not leave from there.

Here interesting moments arose regarding the “Syrian people”. Is this not related to the “Crimean people” who demand the return of Crimea to Ukraine?
Since ancient times, no one has talked with Russia in the spirit of ultimatums. Yes, even with such aplomb. What will happen IF(!!!) Will Russia fulfill these “recommendations” of Erdogan? What will she become? Entrance rug or rag in a bucket?
It is logical to hold some kind of referendum among the Syrian people under the auspices of the UN Security Council on the country's further status, but in a situation where part of the population is simply terrorized and intimidated by bandits, it is even theoretically impossible to do this.
Russia has two options:
First. Take the ultimatum of Erdogan and become the attributes that I mentioned above (rug or rag).
Second. To deal in an adult way with the “people” about which the Turkish “inadequate” broadcasts, and at the same time with those who, quite by chance, could have been at the dismantling site, using all the power of the Russian armed forces. Perhaps, having negotiated with a not "small" player in the BV - Iran, discussing the fate of Assad.
BUT !!! There can be no outcome here, nor can there be any agreement with the sponsors and patrons of the bandits. We need to try something on all those developments that have been talked about in the Kremlin for so long ... or ... quietly crawl out into the closet, proud of the Russian sons who have folded their heads in Syria ...

[Vasily Ponomarev]

Quote: TatarinSSSR

Well, literally: Erdogan says that he asked Putin to "get out of our way" in Idlib

you did not understand the joke in my opinion

[Adimius38]

Well, this is arrogance, in fact, he suggested that Vladimir Vladimirovich raise his hands up, wind up fishing rods and get out.

[Proud.]

"... seven chemical warehouses ..." When you don't know how to justify yourself, remember the tale about chemical weapons.

[Unic]

I was afraid of this .. Assad's chemical warehouses attacked the Turkish drug addicts

[NordUral]

Interesting idea! Poland alone raves from sea to sea, and the Ottoman Empire comes to this at night in dreams.

[Adimius38]

Well, let the Turks forget about the Russian tourist, in fact, they have already thwarted the tourist season this year with their actions, sensible people are already abandoning plans for a trip to Turkey because of anti-Russian sentiments.

[Finn]

Unfortunately, the tourist season in Turkey will not go wrong judging by how many Russian tourists there were even after they shot down our plane. And my mother-in-law went. I asked people why, they say cheap and exclusive. I don’t give a damn to the majority, the main thing is to get drunk and swell. I hate it quietly, but I do not find suitable words for them.

[Adimius38]

Here it is different, here the Turkish military were killed in the murder of which the Russians were certainly accused. Look at the Turkish press and see how Turkish propaganda made the martyrs out of those killed through the press. And how many Turks escorted the so-called martyrs. Personally, after all this, it would never occur to me to take my family on holiday to Turkey. Now it is really dangerous. They can prune around any angle. Therefore, no plane can be compared with this, for one reason that then we were the injured party, now they are very angry to bury their fighters.

[Finn]

If, from a security point of view, then yes, it’s like the mud of Wahhabis, the Turks from them living in St. Petersburg and conducting obscure activities boasted of their power when I reassured one when I shouted to the bar. It may be crazy and enough for many not to visit Turkey.

[Finn]

It seems that the Syrians today drove the S-300 to Aleppo and a lot of other equipment, it seems they will snap back.

[Moskovit]

It's funny to watch the troll tantrum. Countless times, Putin has merged Donbass and Syria. But for some reason, the Ukrainian military periodically wash themselves in blood when they try to at least enter the land of the LPNR, and the territory controlled by Assad is growing from year to year. I suppose this time there will be a similar "drain".

[Crystal of Truth]

What is LDNR

[Moskovit]

Googling. Take a ride there. They will explain to you there

[Andrey.AN]

If Erdogan leaves the terrorists alone with the SAR, then pretty soon no one will stand between Syria and Turkey.

[Grits]

Already talking about chemical warehouses. It's time to run white helmets?

[Warrior MorePhoto]

Quote: arlekin

How is it interesting for you here? People hanging out, dvizhuha, life is seething. And in Khabarovsk we have a routine, a classic: oil has fallen in price - gas has risen in price. 95 for 40 kopecks, although it was just at the end of December for 40 kopecks. rose. Although who cares?

So why did they vote not for Platoshkin, but for the van?

[sagitch]

But what if "one on one" with Russia?

[Senior manager]

Abusive expression. Politics. Abusive expression. Is he testing GDP's patience? It looks like the Turk has secured Trump's consent. If colleagues, you remember, the question has recently been acute about the need for amers (the shadow government of the Earth), oh, I forgot the word, on "e" starts a war. So this question did not go anywhere. Take two. Draw Russia into a regional conflict in Turkey. Well, Ukraine did not succeed. We must prepare, they will not lag behind.

[Fidel]

Uncle Edik is hysterical. Propaganda @ nsky bubble about +100500 killed armored cavalry - this is for internal digestion. Outside, they throw it out when they have really said goodbye to reality.

[Xoyuschka]

Taipych is completely nervous. From all sides overlaid. We must go ahead, thoughtlessly and without calculating the consequences. But is it really possible to mess with everyone around without consequences? Putin will wait a couple of months and make Turkey hurt the hands of Iran.

[Karaul14]

Where are your jokes going if friend Vladimir actually satisfies friend Erdogan’s request?

[Andrey.AN]

if Vladimir recognizes collaborators and terrorists, surrounded by whom Erdogan apparently places with great mind to hang out and root his best troops, Turkey, then there really will be no laughing matter.

[bar]

I told Putin: leave us with the one on one regime, we will do what we need

The sultan completely froze the camp, if he decided to blurt out such a thing.
The main feature of Putin’s foreign policy is Russia is a reliable partner and always abides by the treaty under any circumstances. And for the whims of the inadequate Sultan, no one will change anything.

[Wyoming15]

No, you froze it. S-400 shoved him, gas, nuclear power plants. Oh well. Then do not complain.

[bar]

Business, nothing personal. Why not push it off if you pay for it. As for the specifics, the S-400 does not fly yet (and is unlikely to happen if it goes on like this), it has not yet generated nuclear power plants, and gas can be shut off, business then. With gas in general, the paradigm is changing. No one needs these pipelines anymore, gas carriers, including from Yamal, are quite enough.

[Wyoming15]

I want to believe it. But you do not take into account that you need to keep an eye on the Turks. I'm afraid this lesson will cost you too much.

[bar]

It so happened historically that we need to keep our ears open with absolutely everyone. I can’t say for what reason, but it has always been like this at all times in Russian history. Perhaps this is because we live in the center of a hefty continent with huge borders and a bunch of neighbors, and do not sit on the island. As for the price of the lesson, what it is, if only it were not paid in vain.

[Wyoming15]

Yes of course. A downed plane, a killed pilot, an ambassador shot on air, this is so, garbage.

Then it was necessary to consider that it was not worth flirting with the Turks. They understand only the language of power.

But what about. You certainly had to annoy the Americans. Oh guys, don’t you study history, and the GDP, as I understand it, also had three in history.

[bar]

What did we annoy the Americans with? By fighting terrorism near our borders? Or the fact that in principle we exist? Well, here you have to come to terms with this. Existed, exist and will continue to exist, no matter how much salt you have from this. Learn history and fasten yourself.

[Wyoming15]

I am not an American, first of all.
Secondly, it seemed to you that having sold the S-400 to yesterday’s enemies, and having warned of a conspiracy, you would undermine NATO.

Oh well. Are you loosening up?

[bar]

I am not an American, first of all.

Unlucky with citizenship? It happens. But you hope.

Secondly, it seemed to you that having sold the S-400 to yesterday’s enemies, and having warned of a conspiracy, you would undermine NATO.

And then. If they hadn’t shaken it, the Shchaz would have supported NATO on a united front in its just struggle for the Syrian territories. And if they had not warned about the conspiracy, right now in Turkey instead of an inadequate sultan your puppet would have been with the same result and with the same united front. But, as you see, it did not grow together. Ancient wisdom divide and rule works win-win.

[Charik]

Again, chemicals, they brought it themselves, people called them, they’re lying rats

[Gennady Fomkin]

What about the ultimatum? Edik seemed to be planning to give everyone a drink

[lopvlad]

Erdogan asked Putin to leave Ankara "one on one" with Damascus

a naive elderly boy. Such an offer to Russia was made by those to whom Erdogan ran to kiss slippers in the West after he shot down a Russian SU-24 and they were sent by Russia on a journey on foot with elements of eroticism.

[Gennady Fomkin]

“Yesterday (February 28 - TASS note) I asked Putin, what are your goals there [in Syria]? If you are going to create a military base, then do it, but withdraw the troops from us. I told him to leave us alone on one level with the regime [of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad],” the Turkish president asserts at a meeting with deputies in Istanbul. We are robbing there, and you are in the way. “This is not like a boy,” Erdogan concluded.

[Ros 56]

The impudence of this Turk is beyond belief, but he doesn’t want to be left alone with the Gülenists? The striped ones have already tried, they can try again, what if Putin doesn’t have time, where will he look for his stupid little head?

[MARANCANO]

It’s interesting if you imagine for a moment that it’s not the Russian Federation in Syria, but the USSR. Would Türkiye behave the same way?

[Voltsky]

So far the Ambassador has not been recalled, and therefore the Turks will be allowed to do what they are doing. If the ambassador is recalled, then it will be clear what the Russian Federation is going to do.

[Metallurg_2]

We entered there not at the invitation of Assad, but at the invitation of the Syrian people

The Sultan did not specify who in this case spoke on behalf of the “people”?
Or do “norot” mean pro-Turkish barmalei?

[ochakow703]

I read a bunch of information and came to a conclusion. If we, i.e. The Russian contingent in the SAR will not take decisive action against the presumptuous sultan, the situation will get out of control, the Turks will deploy the entire army, and the “world community” will declare this aggression a “peacekeeping operation.” Something needs to be done, and urgently!
(Something...) This is to hammer the Turks and shout from all the loudspeakers that the Turks are aggressors and terrorists, and the Americans are openly theirs, i.e. terrorists are supported.

[faterdom]

“What will happen then???” - Lavrov’s department was diplomatically asked.

[Sarcasm]

Quote: Stalllker

We support a legitimately elected president, not a regime

Plus - for a good sense of humor

[Tank hard]

At the same time, Erdogan noted that “Ankara does not understand Moscow’s intentions regarding Syria.”

I went to meetings, signed documents, and suddenly at one point I stopped understanding.

[georggy]

This Erdagan fascist muzzle has completely fallen into disarray.

[Gado]

We destroyed more than 2100 Syrian military personnel, 300 military vehicles, and seven chemical warehouses.

And the Turks did not forget chemical weapons. It's clear where the information came from. I would say, though, that this is why he is bombing Syria, his lies have already crossed all boundaries.

[Gennady Fomkin]

Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan announced the decision to open borders with the European Union to Syrian refugees. The Turkish leader announced this while speaking in Istanbul.

“We have long said that we are not obliged to accept such a number of refugees. You promised us help, but you do nothing, and so yesterday we opened our borders.” There is a lot of interesting things ahead.

[Sarcasm]

Quote: ochakow703

I read a bunch of information and came to a conclusion. If we, i.e. The Russian contingent in the SAR will not take decisive action against the presumptuous sultan, the situation will get out of control, the Turks will deploy the entire army, and the “world community” will declare this aggression a “peacekeeping operation.” Something needs to be done, and urgently!
(Something...) This is to hammer the Turks and shout from all the loudspeakers that the Turks are aggressors and terrorists, and the Americans are openly theirs, i.e. terrorists are supported.

So what's new? the usual "Peace Enforcement Operation". He says that he has no claims to Syrian territory and Syrian oil. They will send in troops, hold a referendum, elect the president and parliament of the South, sorry Eastern Syrian Republic, then provide assistance, hand out Turkish passports to everyone, just as a Turkoman conductor will go to liberated Aleppo or Idlib with a concert... Did you get the hint?
Well, the Georgians climbed into Ossetia, well, they trimmed the landscape with MLRS, why did we beat them then on 08.08.08? Why is Assad better now? Why are Ukrainians worse than Assad? The East is their territory? Moreover, Assad is a Basurman, and these are their own, Orthodox...
If you say these are our interests and obligations, then there are Turkomans (Azerbaijanis) and Kazakhs in Syria and Iraq, by the way, brotherly Turkic peoples of the Ottoman Turks. This is along their borders, etc.

In short, we lost Turkey, of course we would not be allies, but we would be good partners. What's the point of discussing anything now?
The one who at one time, using obsTakanovka, was able to persuade the GDP, advise and take actions to pull the Turks away from the amers towards us, to begin to conduct a dialogue as with an equal, and the Turks were infuriated by the American “I’m the boss,” he should have been given a Hero. The fact that Turkey bought the S-400 from us was worth it.
The fact that they exchanged the Turks for Assad and the Iranian ayatollahs is a strategic mistake. In any case, Assad is “no good”, and we will never be partners with the Iranians, just fellow travelers. IMHO, another STRATEGIC mistake has been made - we lost Georgia, which itself came to us, we lost truly fraternal Ukraine, we were screwed... we were beaten there by the Americans like Karpov Down, we almost lost Armenia, we’re about to do everything so that Belarus will be left behind by us escaped, now the Turks, and how beautiful it could have been, after all, they wiped the amers’ noses, got a neighbor’s partner, and even a NATO country. I wonder who that woodpecker is, who, what brilliant idiot should I thank for this?

The Turks will cope, it’s bitter to say, if you want to minus it, but we really screwed up, we should have been above the situation, but we played as one of the sides, descending from heaven to the level of the plinth. How much idiocy these gentlemen of ours will do, how much more we will have to clean up after them...

[Isim soyad]

All this was expected and predictable. The Armenian lobby and diaspora are doing their job. Would the Simonyans, Bagdasaryans, Solovyovs, etc., allow this to happen? OF COURSE NOT!!! The fate of Russia is decided by people like them, and not by true patriots and those who love their Motherland and People. And people like them would really allow this union. So that Russia becomes more powerful politically, economically and authoritatively.

[Wyoming15]

Instead of writing all sorts of nonsense, I would sit and drink tea and praise my Sultan Perdogan, or Ilham Baba, whoever you have.

[Vladimir_6]

The Syrian question is by no means an adventure or a desire to expand borders. We entered there not at the invitation of Assad, but at the invitation of the Syrian people. And until the people invite us to leave, we will not leave from there.

I wonder if the Syrian people for Erdogan are only Turkomans, or all the tribes, including the Kurds?
If the withdrawal of Turkish troops (according to Erdogan himself) requires only a “proposal of the people,” then it can be formalized at a rally in Damascus, or on the eastern bank of the Euphrates.
Maybe it was not in vain that he said this phrase? Moscow does not compromise. I realized that I would have to leave Idlib. Therefore, it prepares the ground. At home he will declare that the operation is completed, since “the Syrian people have offered to leave.”

[gurzuf]

“We entered there not at the invitation of Assad, but at the invitation of the Syrian people.” A direct quote from Mein Kampf only in Turkish.

[gurzuf]

Quote: Krasnodar

With which they will then use ISIS oil

Having the prime minister under investigation for this statement, I would not be surprised.

[Alexander Sharapov]

Fm. Military Maps: The Turks have a dozen attack drones in the skies over Idlib and this has dramatically changed the course of the operation. They hit trucks with ammunition, equipment and concentrations of SAA personnel. Syrians are forced to hide their cars in buildings; they themselves cannot feel at ease in the open air.

Drones, as a new type of weapon, are proving to be effective. If it is not possible to use aviation, such light aviation is enough to disrupt the enemy’s offensive. The Turks have advanced quite far in this direction. They are armed with about a hundred Bayraktar TB2 attack drones. Very successful devices. The Turks built them when the Americans and Israelis refused to sell their developments to them. The Turks tensed up and released their own series in 2014, which turned out to be better than others. Now Qatar and Ukraine have purchased Bayraktary from them. Ukraine purchased it for use in the Donbass - it hasn’t come to that yet, but it’s a very dangerous thing!

They are released from the base in units of up to six pieces. They fly at a fairly high altitude, are difficult to detect and stay in the air for up to 24 hours (the best in the world). They conduct reconnaissance and attack detected targets with guided ammunition. One will detect the object, the other will fire a missile from a distance of several kilometers and the operator will bring it to the target. It's an unpleasant thing. The Turks are now testing its use on the Syrians.

Maybe I have a personal score to settle with drones after Deir ez-Zor, but it is obvious that their role in the war will increase. Swiftly. And the Turks do not shed their hinds in this race
Poddubny: The nature of the database has changed. Turkish attack UAVs are operating in the skies over Idlib and this is now the main threat to government forces. So far, only one Turkish drone has been shot down, but there are a dozen of them operating here. We wait.

[Rock616]

The under-sultan can only go to the famous Chinese mountain “k x u am”...

[Alexey from Perm]

During the campaign in Moscow they heard this advice and do not stop Turkey from beating the Syrians

[VLADIMIR VLADIVOSTOK]

You can only beat the Turks! It is useless to be friends with the Turks.

[Sarcasm]

Quote: Isim Soyad

All this was expected and predictable. The Armenian lobby and diaspora are doing their job. Would the Simonyans, Bagdasaryans, Solovyovs, etc., allow this to happen? OF COURSE NOT!!! The fate of Russia is decided by people like them, and not by true patriots and those who love their Motherland and People. And people like them would really allow this union. So that Russia becomes more powerful politically, economically and authoritatively.

There is no need to exaggerate the influence of the Armenian lobby. Judging by your nickname, you are either a Turk or a Turk, and you will see the machinations of Armenians everywhere by definition.
I don’t argue that Armenians occupied all the vacant positions after several waves of Jewish emigration, but in Russia, as in the USA, and in a number of European countries, the Jewish lobby was, remains and will probably be the most influential for many years to come. So the Armenian lobby, just like in the USA, is in second place, but second place is also significant.
The ground for expanding influence at one time was created by the movement of Armenians from Persia (Iran) and Turkey to the southern lands newly annexed to the Russian Empire - the North Caucasus and Transcaucasia, since the Christian Armenians diluted the Muslim South with them thus became controlled.
Resettlement in Transcaucasia, for example, made it possible to control a significant area inhabited by Transcaucasian Tatars, also known as Qajars or, with the light hand of I.V. Stalin, Azerbaijanis. At a time when, I will use the name familiar to us, the Azerbaijani dynasties were in power in Persia for several centuries and ruled it, there was no other way to retain and control these territories - the Orthodox Georgians, loyal and serving the Empire, were a small people, who else could they rely on? - there was no alternative to the Armenians. And these days, Azerbaijanis are also in power in Iran, Ayatollah Khamenei is Azerbaijani and many in the leadership of Iran are traditionally Azerbaijanis. Now we are fellow travelers in Syria, but if Iran, for example, hypothetically, annexes Northern Azerbaijan populated by Azerbaijanis, let me remind you, unlike you, Azerbaijanis are almost all Shiite Muslims, and Iran is RADICAL Islam, we will not have a buffer between the North Caucasus and Iran than this threatens, I don’t think there’s any need to tell. As you can see here, we have something in common with you, we support Azerbaijan, to this day, just like you, we train and just like you FREE OF CHARGE officers of the Azerbaijani army, we supply Azerbaijan with modern weapons and in every possible way support the preservation of Azerbaijan’s independence and sovereignty. Of course, at the same time, we also remember the interests of our ally Armenia and act very carefully, not allowing Azerbaijan to gain an advantage over Armenia, so that the preconditions do not arise for a full-scale war between them, which is fraught with great human casualties and the economic collapse of both states - both the first and You and I will have to sort this out together.
This is, so to speak, a tradition we inherited from the Russian Empire and our obligations and responsibilities to the Armenians resettled to new lands.
In the politics of modern Russia, Armenians have gained a foothold in our country thanks to the repainted Dashnak Anastas Mikoyan and the influence that the Armenians acquired at his expense in the Soviet Union. To understand the degree of influence, a simple example is that Armenian nationalists distinguished themselves not only during the Russian Empire, but also in the Soviet Union by committing terrorist attacks in Moscow.
But the Armenians do not and will never have influence as a Jewish lobby for one simple reason - gold rules the world. Armenians do not have resources similar to Jewish ones and influence similar to Jewish ones because they do not and will not control financial flows of global or even regional significance.
So I hasten to reassure you in the history of modern Russia, after the collapse of the USSR, Armenians are number TWO, number ONE, and in fact, if they do not rule Russia, then the Jewish lobby globally influences its policy, as well as the policy of the USA, a number of European states, or for example Ukraine, well, don’t be offended by Turkey. You can deny it, but Turkey is also under the influence of the Jewish lobby and it has more than enough opportunities to manipulate and influence your policy. Why is the Jewish lobby pitting Turkey and Russia against each other today, and yesterday Russia and Ukraine - they know better, we can only guess about their strategy and the ultimate goal of everything, if there is one at all. It is currently impossible to oppose anything to the influence of the Jewish lobby; I repeat, they control financial flows, and money determines, if not everything, then almost everything in the modern world.
All we can do in such conditions is THINK and remain PEOPLE, even if tomorrow, for example, we both have to point weapons at each other.

[Isim soyad]

"Let me remind you, unlike you, Azerbaijanis are almost all Shiite Muslims"
And where did you get the idea that I am not a Shiite? In Azerbaijan, more than 50% of all Muslims, no matter Shiite or Sunni. And of the rest, the Shiites are not so much larger than the Sunnis. And so, we adhere more to national interests than to religious ones.

"to this day, just like you, we train and just like you, FREE OF CHARGE, officers of the Azerbaijani army"
This is what I will say/write with confidence: you are mistaken here. Russia does not do anything for FREE to Azerbaijan, much less in military affairs. Yes, you sell modern weapons, but at world prices. We would buy ALL THIS, including more advanced and technological ones, from other states, but only GDP prevents this, and that’s why they refuse to sell us a lot of things. There were a lot of things, we negotiated, agreed, and then that side refused to sell. I had to go to the GDP.

"Armenians number TWO"
I and did NOT meanthat they are No. 1 in this. Any adequate and educated person, and as you often write, who sees beyond his beer, realizes who is No. 1 in this world. And they help us in many ways, which is why No. 2, they cannot put much pressure on us in some matters, because of No. 1.

"The Jewish lobby influences its policies globally, so don’t be offended by Turkey"
They don’t take offense at the truth, and they don’t care about anything. In this world, or with them, or “roughly speaking” under them (with the exception of the USSR at one time). "It’s better this way than Syria, Libya, Iraq, Pakistan or Afghanistan, or a poor, backward, raising zombies (in in many ways), thieves, bribe takers, and how you write managers, etc., etc.

"And today Azerbaijanis are also in power in Iran, Ayatollah Khamenei is Azerbaijani"
This means nothing, neither he nor those (Azerbaijanis) who are now in power. The people are suffering! I read in your comment about Syria, “65% of the population (Sunnis) do not want/desire Assad.” The same thing is here, 55-60% of the population (Azerbaijanis (Turks - as they are called there)) do not want to be part of the IIR. And it doesn’t matter to them (very, very, and again very much the majority) whether they are Shiites or Sunnis. This is the same as in Syria. But that doesn't tell you anything.

"Transcaucasian Tatars, they are also Qajars or, with the light hand of I.V. Stalin, Azerbaijanis."
Yes, until 36, in the birth certificates, in the nationality column, it was written Türk, Stalin changed this. He wanted to alienate and completely separate the Ottoman ones from the Transcaucasian ones, or vice versa, in everything possible. And he was able to do this, and this continued until the collapse of the USSR. And then everything changed.

"At one time, the ground was created for expanding influence movement of Armenians from Persia (Iran) and Turkey to the southern lands newly annexed to the Russian Empire - the North Caucasus and Transcaucasia, since the Armenians are Christians, the Muslim South diluted by them thus became controlled.
Resettlement in Transcaucasia, for example, made it possible to control a significant area inhabited by Transcaucasian Tatars, also known as Qajars or, with the light hand of I.V. Stalin, Azerbaijanis."
I am very glad that you know history as well as you know “military affairs,” I say sincerely. There are so many YouTube historians here (not specifically in VO), but I’m generally silent about couch throwers of nuclear weapons, calibers and daggers, you know better than me. I read all your comments, and to be honest, almost only yours.

"There is no need to exaggerate the influence of the Armenian lobby. Judging by your nickname, you are either a Turk or a Turk, and you will see the machinations of Armenians everywhere by definition."
In our confrontation, this is true. And I don't mean "that's the way it should be." And in reality it is so. We are Muslims, Turks, and they are Christians. And they take advantage of this whenever possible. And in many ways this passes. You live in the Russian Federation, for you we and the Armenians are in the same bowl, probably that’s why you reason like this. But believe me, if you were inside all this, you wouldn’t write like that.
“I am a Turk, a Caucasian Turk, as you wrote, an Azerbaijani with a light hand.” I would answer a lot of things here, but taking into account the intellectually educated YouTube historians, the culture and upbringing of some, and my age and position, I will end with this.

[tank64rus]

Erdogan apparently forgot about Toptal Pasha (A.V. Suvorov) and Ushak Pasha (Admiral Ushakov). Would like to refresh my memory.

[xambo]

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Erdogan apparently forgot

That the holiday season will begin soon)))
Strong guys will start "sunbathing" on the beaches of Antalya and drink only juice..

[Sarcasm]

Quote: Isim Soyad

1."Let me remind you, unlike you, Azerbaijanis are almost all Shiite Muslims"
And where did you get the idea that I am not a Shiite? In Azerbaijan, more than 50% of all Muslims, no matter Shiite or Sunni. And of the rest, the Shiites are not so much larger than the Sunnis. And so, we adhere more to national interests than to religious ones.

2."to this day, just like you, we train and just like you, FREE OF CHARGE, officers of the Azerbaijani army"
This is what I will say/write with confidence: you are mistaken here. Russia does not do anything for FREE to Azerbaijan, much less in military affairs. Yes, you sell modern weapons, but at world prices. We would buy ALL THIS, including more advanced and technological ones, from other states, but only GDP prevents this, and that’s why they refuse to sell us a lot of things. There were a lot of things, we negotiated, agreed, and then that side refused to sell. I had to go to the GDP.

3."Transcaucasian Tatars, they are also Qajars or, with the light hand of I.V. Stalin, Azerbaijanis."
Yes, until 36, in the birth certificates, in the nationality column, it was written Türk, Stalin changed this. He wanted to alienate and completely separate the Ottoman ones from the Transcaucasian ones, or vice versa, in everything possible. And he was able to do this, and this continued until the collapse of the USSR. And then everything changed.

1. I didn’t know that you were Azerbaijani, that’s why I wrote like that.

2. You are mistaken. Azerbaijani officers, and many from the CIS, have been studying for FREE in the Russian Federation since the time of Yeltsin; if they pay, then, for example, in the case of pilots, for flight hours and nothing more. Currently, more than a dozen Azerbaijani cadets are studying in the Russian Federation.

3. There is no need to separate you, Azerbaijanis, from the Ottoman Turks. You have never been “Transcaucasian Turks”; Transcaucasia is only a part of the lands of Persia that went to the Russian Empire and was inhabited by Turks. It was the Turkic dynasties that ruled Persia at that moment and before and after, if according to the modern version they are Azerbaijanis. If we turn to their self-name, they are Qajars, and Turks or Turks as you like, but they also had a self-name. This is a problem, for example, the Ukrainians are trying to weave a new history and they simply cannot give one thing in it - since they are a separate people and not Russians, give your SELF-NAME. So the Turks in Azerbaijan, in the south of the Russian Federation, in Iran, in eastern Turkey, in Georgia, once in Armenia, in the north of Iraq, in Syria (except for the Kazakhs) are all Azerbaijanis, but they never called themselves that, just as they never called themselves by the Turks.
So Persia was never an ally of Turkey, and Persia was ruled by the Azerbaijanis. Do you understand what I mean?... These are different branches of the Turks and a different history. Now in modern history, at the beginning of the last century, the Turks patronized Azerbaijan, provided assistance, etc. but you are not related to the Ottoman Turks, you are part of another Turkic people, as far as I know you are 36-38 million, if you do not count you among the population of Turkey, exclude Kurds, Armenians, Greeks, etc. from it, then you are equal in number to the Ottoman and Persian Turks, but again, you are not the same thing.

[Isim soyad]

I wasn’t going to answer you, but I’ll ask anyway. where did you read the Turk I wrote? I didn’t write this, and I don’t consider myself a Turk.
"There are 36-38 million of you"Then tell me, the number of Azerbaijanis in the IIR? You write as if you yourself were counting, 36-38, and not the rounded figure of 35-40, as if this is accurate information.
And the fact that, to put it mildly, you do not like Azerbaijanis, I noticed this before.

[BastaKarapuzik And]

He asks Russia to leave Turkey alone with Assad, and he himself has already contacted NATO, saying that a member of the NATO bloc was attacked. How two-faced, deceitful type do you have to be?
NATO did not want to interfere in this issue; this is not the case when the bloc should speak out for the attacked participant. Obviously, they don’t need Assad, but NATO doesn’t like Erdogan in any way.
Conclusion: Türkiye in general and Erdogan in particular are absolutely incompetent.

[IS-80_RVGK2]

Is Erdogashka so stupid? It is sad.

[Sarcasm]

Quote: Isim Soyad

And the fact that, to put it mildly, you do not like Azerbaijanis, I noticed this before.

Well, you’re in vain... I didn’t give you any reason to think that I have a bad attitude towards Azerbaijanis or other nationalities. Azerbaijanis have made a huge contribution to the preservation and development of, for example, the military-industrial complex of our country. Consider only two people, for example - the late David Guseinovich Pashayev, ex-director of Sevmash, or Igor Raufovich Ashurbeyli, ex-director of Almaz-Antey, their contribution to the Russian defense industry is simply colossal. I can list many names, these are simply familiar to most and well-known.

Quote: Isim Soyad

"There are 36-38 million of you"Then tell me, the number of Azerbaijanis in the IIR? You write as if you yourself were counting, 36-38, and not the rounded figure of 35-40, as if this is accurate information.

Well, let's be frank, for sure, up to hundreds of thousands, at least, you should probably be more interested, but I just looked at the data on Wiki by country, and added up the plus or minus.

PS I’m interested in one question about Azerbaijan, but this is separate from the topic “on the topic of the day”, since you are interested here, then I think you participate in your forums or blogs and you can know.
I read that the Minister of Defense of Azerbaijan, who recently traveled to Italy with your president, signed a memorandum there, in other words, an “agreement of intent” for the purchase of Italian M-346 trainers. Does this mean that the decision has finally been made to purchase French Rafales, which Sarkozy flew to Baku, and decided not to wait for Pakistan (China) to modernize the JF-17 to the 4++ level? Here they discussed the option that we would sell the Su-30 to Armenia, and the Su-35 to Azerbaijan, but it seems that they were talking more about Pakistani fighters, I also thought so, but now I am more inclined to the version that you will still buy up to 24 French ones, about which in your own time there were "leaks".

[andrew42]

It seems that the President of Turkey is either zombified or looped into such a dense domain of structureless governance that he does not hesitate to propose such heresy in the worst traditions of the inadequate Mrs. Hillary. Usually, when something is proposed, people think with their heads first.