The Pentagon went against the State Department on the issue of Turkey’s supply of Patriot air defense systems

Turkey's request to deploy two batteries of American Patriot air defense systems on its southern border sparked controversy between the Pentagon and the US State Department on the advisability of such a deployment. This is written by Politico.

According to the publication, US Special Representative for Syria James Jeffrey spoke out in favor of Ankara’s request "to temporarily deploy Patriot air defense systems to cover airspace over Idlib," but the Pentagon strongly opposed such a decision. The US military claims that the deployment of the Patriot air defense system in Turkey is "reckless" and they are "concerned about the global consequences of this move."

Despite the fact that Jeffrey raises the question of creating, with the help of the United States, a temporary no-fly zone over Idlib, the Pentagon considers this venture "bad", while stating that they do not "want to create a bad precedent" that will still not change anything "in the calculations Russians. " At the same time, both the State Department and the Pentagon say that there is no talk of selling Turkey Patriot air defense systems, the whole talk is about the temporary deployment of the complexes.

It was previously reported that Ankara requested from the United States two Patriot air defense batteries for deployment on the southern border in order to create a no-fly zone for the Russian and Syrian aviation over Idlib. The Pentagon confirmed the receipt of the request and stated that "they are aware of the request."

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[svp67]

The US military says the deployment of the Patriot air defense system in Turkey is "reckless" and they are "concerned about the global consequences of this step."

Of course ... the direct involvement of the American military in an armed confrontation with Russia ... at least who has a "cold mind" there

[Russian Moldavian]

Turkish patriotic

I left the house, I went to fight,
So that I can give land in Idlib An-Nusra.
Goodbye, dear! Goodbye family!
An-Nusra, An-Nusra, An-Nusra is mine!

in Astana, the sultan swore on a koran. to osly to the left. goats to the right. personally trace

and who is he doctor now?

[Chaldon48]

Politicians like to reason in the spirit of the Cold War, and the military really does not like to take part in the hot, which is an inevitable continuation of the cold.

[Stas-90]

Quote: svp67

Of course ... the direct involvement of the American military in an armed confrontation with Russia ... at least who has a "cold mind" there

But I'm still interested. But they will take and place their Patriots. Announce a no-fly zone over Idlib. And they’ll make fun of a couple of times to start with the Syrian falcons. RF then what will it do? Bluffing doesn't go any further. It’s necessary to fight, to wet the Patriots with intelligence. But the Russian Federation has no other leverage over the West. You can of course refuse tomatoes and say that we will not supply gas to you from now on.
Other than laughter, such "sanctions" will cause nothing.
Will we fight? For Assad?
We have nothing but a club, unfortunately.
Or is there?

[bayard]

Quote: Stas-90

Or is there?

Enough.
Do you think the Pentagon does not want to place its batteries from excessive peace?
Not at all.
They will have to put batteries with CALCULATIONS there. And the answer will be necessary, only just bring down at least one plane. And no matter what the batteries are in Turkey. Turkish troops are already in Syria. And they are at war with the government army. So the aggressor is the Turks, and the fifth amendment is not valid.
And the "Patriots" will be carried out for one or two, because they do not have cover for the near zone, like the "Pantsyri" we have. So it is guaranteed.
Than.
This is also enough.
"Tochka-U" will do a great job. Iskander. PRL missiles Kh-31 (maximum launch range 210 km.).
Yet ?
"Dagger" will get them from the Krasnodar Territory.
About "Caliber", "Onyx" (they also work perfectly for ground targets) and other commonplace things I don't even remember.
The main thing here is will.
And only when otherwise it is no longer possible, because a bad world ... well, you are in the know.
Everything can end on March 5, with fixing the position on the maps.
Truce.
And of course - the economy.
7,5 million tourists, if they do not come, the tourist industry of the Turks will collapse - checked.
Tomatoes and other trade (Russia has an alternative).
S-400 second regiment kit?
It will be gladly bought by other waiting lists. India will receive the same, somewhat earlier than expected. Or Saudi Arabia.
Akuyu NPP?
Stopping the construction costs nothing, for Russia this is only a plus (it is being built on our loans).
A pipe?
It will be a pity, but also the loss is not so great - the Ukrainian pipe will miss everything that needs to be missed (there is an agreement for another 5 years).
This is a bad scenario, but the Turks are impudent, because they count on this blackmail, that Russia will give in.
And there can be only one concession - the situation in Idlib will be frozen again at existing positions.
And positions from south to north are moving.
But Serakib on the plain - easy to take, difficult to defend. After the M-4 is blocked, it will be more difficult for the Turks to keep it ... If the battles continue after March 5th.

[Roman1970_1]

The whole world is in ruin. That's right of them.
By the way, the Turks shot down the plane

[bayard]

Those are Turkish pilots who shot down Peshkov’s plane and later hunted Erdogan’s plane during a coup attempt.
Remember.
Therefore, the Syrian S-300s are already deployed in Aleppo and at night actively worked on Turkish drones. Successfully.
Have you heard?
And additional fighter forces have been deployed to Khmeimim.
And the Black Sea Fleet frigates passed yesterday - to Middle-earth.
But the world is not in ruins - we are peaceful people.
But fair.
The enemy wants to go to ruin, to him - to ruin.
The game on the nerves.
In which Erdagan will lose everything - his face, power, and much more.
But this is HIS choice.

[standan]

And what do you think?

[Evgeny Zhukov_2]

You think two ships with calibers go there just to relax. There will be an answer the Patriots will demolish and still catch something ..

[Mountain shooter]

Clear. Soldiers die in a war unleashed by ... politicians! And they don't want to die. Drag air defense systems to the border with Turkey in order to try to shoot down Russian planes ... At the risk of getting several missiles on these same systems ... And the crews - American? The Turks were completely crazy ... It was only "dill" that could supply Georgia's BUKs, and they could provide crews ...

[Sky strike fighter]

It seems that the S-300 will quickly close the air over Idlib than the Patriot. Map on the link below.

The Syrian government from February 00 to March 00, 29 declared closed in the entire range of altitude levels for flights of all types of aircraft, with the exception of military aircraft, the traditional international routes to (from) Aleppo in the north, northwest and southwest directions.

Local sources report the deployment of S-300 anti-aircraft systems near Aleppo, which have been in service with the Syrian army since the fall of 2018.

http://in24.org/world/38779

[bayard]

It seems to have already closed. In the footage - the defeat of the drone at night. The Syrians would have another regimental set - to their previous positions.

[Spektr]

The United States wants and is pricked, and the mother does not order.

[Vasyan1971]

As usual smart soldiers against rabid politicians. Are there any chances? We will see ...

[Chingachguk]

And if from these patriots they are pulled by the videoconferencing and accidentally fall, then this is a conflict between the US and Russia, but because of whom? Because of the Turkish hysteria and his ambitions? And if they shoot and do not hit and this complex is destroyed, then this is a cross on the entire American military-industrial complex and on the entire US missile defense system .....

[Isim soyad]

Do you seriously think that even if the USA’s air defense missile systems are shot down by Russian fighters, Russia will hit the American Patriots, or will it somehow respond?

[Chingachguk]

And you bring down, and we will see ..... And do not Poke please. If everything was so simple and not in conflict and there would be no danger of receiving a return to the full, they would have been shot down long ago if they could .....

[bayard]

Of course he will answer. And the Pentagon knows this.
Or do you doubt it?
That night, the Syrian S-300s ALREADY closed the sky over Idlib and actively drove Turkish drones.

Quote: Sky Strike fighter

http://in24.org/world/38779

There everything goes on as an adult and now they crumble Turkish technology.
And the personnel.
Like terrorists.
For the Turks can be there EXCLUSIVELY at the permitted and agreed checkpoints.
Additional fighter forces of the Russian Federation were deployed to Syria. And the Russian frigates FREE passed the Bosphorus and the Dardanelles.
And electronic warfare, I think, will also be conducted at the proper level.
Idlib is Syria!
And Turkey has long been gone on American operational maps. In its place "Great Armenia", Kurdistan and Anatolian Greece.
And mind you, the cards are American.
By the way, Gulen also included Azerbaijan in the "Great Armenia".
Remember the identity of the Dashnaks, they were removed from corpses in 1990? There was a map on a U-turn.
Do you remember?
You must remember.
This is your story.
Do you want Gulen's fairy tale to come true?
Forward - to the machine guns.
But everything could be very different ...
But the ram is more important to get into the pilaf sooner.
But I always spoke out for not just partnership, but for the strategic alliance of Turkey with Russia ... And you Azerbaijanis called for this ... But apparently pilaf is more important for you.

[75 Sergey]

That’s what prevented our, in due time, from making the whole of Syria flightless?

[Adam Khomich]

"... the American side now does not have the necessary Patriot air defense systems that the United States could supply to Turkey" - Erdogan, February 26.02.2020, XNUMX

[Dog]

Jeffrey

Persons with rotten brains are in any more or less large community. In one or another quantity.
The main thing is that their concentration does not reach critical and their "ideas" do not put humanity on the brink of destruction once again.
It is necessary for mattresses to introduce strict psychotric selection for their officials, otherwise there is a bad tendency there now.

[Ros 56]

It's just that not everyone in the states has been mocking, there are still people with brains. They remember the words of GDP about the consequences for both direct participants in the events and decision centers.

[Altai72]

Practice has shown that the Turks and without air defense systems cope with the tasks at a professional level! But bombing ambulances will not bring dividends to anyone ..

[Business trip]

Quote: Altai72

But bombing ambulances will not bring dividends to anyone ..

What are Turkish military ambulances doing in a foreign country?
Do you think the military occupation of the Syrian land will bring you dividends? Learn to "invest" without risk. And then Libya, Iraq, Syria, I think risky "investments" ... Absolutely the roof went from permissiveness.

[Paranoid50]

Quote: Altai72

Turkey was invited by the Syrian people.

Oh, one more ... Well, yes, in Turkey’s social network, they’ve slashed - go here to throw.

[Altai72]

I’m getting it! In the Turkish Russo tourist uses free Wi-Fi and you say the opposite. By the way, the opposition launched an offensive in the South. 8 NPs released within an hour❗

[bayard]

Quote: Altai72

If the Russian Federation invited Assad to Syria, then the Syrian people invited Turkey.

What kind of people are there in Idlib?
Uyghur terrorists?
Cultivate China for "joy"?
Or hired rabble from all over Oikumeny?
Thousands of devils from different volosts?

Assad is the legitimate president of Syria.
Anyone supporting terrorists is a TERRORIST.
And you are a citizen of "Altai", also a TERRORIST.
For us and before the law.
Why "Altai"? How is the tank failed?
And what about the airplane on the avatar?
Are we flying in a dream?
Azerbaijan?
I remember served.
What really fly?

[Altai72]

Terrorists are those who bombard women and children, cut down on the keel. I don’t know with the tank, I don’t participate in the development. I love and respect Azerbaijan just like my Altai. And for such words I could offend you, I can even designate an arrow. Be reasonable and do not throw words. A man should be responsible for his words.

[bayard]

Quote: Altai72

Terrorists are those who bomb women and children

Are you talking about the USA and Israel?

Quote: Altai72

chop on the keel.

My military specialization is to cut keels on the most air intakes. More precisely organize, provide and manage this process.

Quote: Altai72

With a tank not in the know

I sympathize with the education.

Quote: Altai72

I’m not participating in the development.

Not surprised .

Quote: Altai72

I love and respect Azerbaijan just like my Altai

Wow , is it really a citizen of Russia? Then everything is simpler - Wahhabi in the homeland should be identified, rendered harmless and put on trial. It is necessary to take a closer look at you.

Quote: Altai72

And for such words I could offend you, I can even designate an arrow.

Be so kind as to allow competent services to spend less time.

Quote: Altai72

Be reasonable and do not throw words. A man should be responsible for his words.

But the airplane is ... not Altai ...
You very accurately expressed your responsibility for the words.
Grievances are simply obliged to follow for slandering their State and their Army.
Never threaten a person by the eyes, you can be very surprised.

[Lord of the Sith]

Pentagon goes against the State Department

And here you will not fight))
This is a mess there inside the country, not only departments on knives, they are also shaking dirty linen for the amusement of the public, well, just like spiders in a bank, they eat each other.

And in principle, the deployment of air defense systems will not give anything special

[askort154]

And for that, Jeffrey raises the question of creating a temporary no-fly zone over Idlib with the help of the United States, the Pentagon considers this venture "bad", while stating that they do not "want to create a bad precedent" that will still change nothing "in the calculations Russians "

I already wrote, and again: Only military professionals keep the peace on planet Earth, because they, firsthand from the media, know what a modern big war will lead to. Only they are holding back the "war hawks" sitting in their chairs: the White House, the US Senates, the Russophobic PACE and, in an irresistible zeal for a battle with Russia, the Polish-Baltic-Ukrainian stupid.

[rocket757]

Warriors, of course, will never refuse cash injections, but they have NO desire to plunge into a serious conflict!
those. this "cat" understands on whose sour cream / sausage it is NOT worth infringing on!
Not for the sake of sanity, keep your sirloin intact, the only way.

[Isim soyad]

The NATO emergency meeting has ended. Stoltenberg: we will protect Turkey from the air - air attacks from Syria will stop (Yeni Şafak, Turkey)

The Secretary General of the Alliance noted that the Allies express their condolences to Turkey in connection with the tragedy that happened last night, as a result of which Turkey lost its military. Stoltenberg stressed that members of the alliance condemn this attack, committed by the military under the leadership of Bashar al-Assad. “We openly urge Russia and the regime to stop attacks, we urge Syria to comply with international law,” he said.

According to Stoltenberg, it is urgent to return to the ceasefire regime reached in 2018, otherwise the humanitarian crisis will worsen. NATO supports Turkey and sees it as a very valuable ally, he said. “Turkey is home to millions of refugees,” Stoltenberg continued. - NATO will support Turkey in several ways. Including air protection. This will stop the air attacks from Syria. We will continue to defend the southeastern border of NATO. ”

[Paranoid50]

Quote: Isim Soyad

Stoltenberg:

And who is it?

Quote: Isim Soyad NATO supports Turkey and views it as a very valuable ally.

We will continue to defend the southeastern border of NATO. ”

I hope there is no need to translate from diplomatic into Russian. Yes, and banned.

[Finist036]

Apparently the Pentogon does not want to die too much for the interests of Turkey, at the risk of engaging in an open battle with the Russian Federation, since together with the Patriot SAM the United States would have to send its anti-aircraft gunners to Turkey. Patriot, this is a complex system and to skillfully manage it, it takes many months of preparation