Construction of the Turkish Stream slowed down again in Bulgaria

Deliveries of Russian gas to Eastern Europe via the Turkish Stream gas pipeline are again delayed. The reason is the slowdown in the construction of the gas pipeline in Bulgaria. It is reported by Darik News.

According to the publication, obtained from the report of the Bulgarian gas transportation system, by February 25, 2020, only 103 of 308 kilometers of pipes had been welded. Another 36 km of pipes were simply laid, but no one started welding them. At the same time, Serbia finished laying its 403-km stretch back in December last year and, due to problems on the Bulgarian stretch, cannot receive gas via the Turkish Stream.

Meanwhile, the contractor is accused of all troubles in the Bulgarian GTS. The state company Bulgartransgaz laid the blame on the Saudi consortium Arkad, with whom a contract was concluded. According to the agreement concluded in September 2019, Arkad was supposed to build a 250 km section of the gas pipeline in 308 days, but in only 5 months it laid only 103 km of pipes. The reason for this speed of construction is unclear. It is noted that this is the third slowdown in the construction of the Turkish Stream in Bulgaria.

In accordance with Bulgarian law, the responsibility lies solely with the contractor, both with regard to ensuring the full volume of supplies of equipment and materials, and with regard to the implementation of construction work

- leads the publication of the message "Bulgartransgaz"

Under the contract, Bulgaria cannot hire a subcontractor to expedite the construction, so we hope that in the remaining 3 months the Bulgarian section will be completed and Russian gas will go to Serbia and other countries of Southern and Eastern Europe.

Comments

[Kleber]

Not. Contacting Bulgaria is more expensive.

[Husit]

Construction of the Turkish Stream slowed down again in Bulgaria

Well, the "brothers" at least helped in something .. But it's too late already. "Shipka" cigarettes have been smoked for a long time ..

[torp]

And Slynchev Bryag finished long ago))

[Piramidon]

Quote: torp

And Slynchev Bryag finished long ago))

They had a good Pliska, but now I won't drink it out of principle. Better "Ararat"

[DMB 75]

Now Bulgarians will come to the site and explain that we are to blame for everything, but they are pink and fluffy .. I liked Vega, with a large filter (like the Rodopi) for 50 kopecks ..

[cniza]

And then "opal" ...

[Major Yurik]

Quote: DMB 75

Now Bulgarians will come to the site and explain that we are to blame for everything, but they are pink and fluffy .. I liked Vega, with a large filter (like the Rodopi) for 50 kopecks ..

Yeeh, but I still remember them at 35 cents, and BT at 45 cents! The truth then did not smoke yet, but only looked. And about the Bulgarian explained, because even those sitting in the garbage can by their own stupidity are looking for good points in this and prove that everything was planned like that!

[pytar]

Now Bulgarians will come to the site and explain that we are to blame for everything, but they are pink and fluffy .. I liked Vega, with a large filter (like the Rodopi) for 50 kopecks ..

Come! Get the latest information personally from the participants in the events!
Here is Vega, here is Rodopi. But BT were the best!

[cniza]

"BT" is a completely different class - a solid pack ...

[pytar]

"BT" is a completely different class - a solid pack ...

They were softer and the smell was "tasty". They are still being produced. And then I found a video with "Rodopi" produced under license in Russia now.

[DMB 75]

But remember that, men?

No French or Scottish is needed !!!

[pytar]

But remember that, men? No French or Scottish is needed !!!

Unfortunately I didn’t find a video from "Slanchev Bryag", but I found it from "Pliska". They are similar.

[dauria]

Get the latest information in person from event attendees

A real smoker would not forget ... Only the best of the 40 kopecks was Java in Moscow, well, even Kiev Express.

[pytar]

As I understand it, the Stewardess is produced under license in Russia, but they have nothing to do with the former.

Obviously, the manufacturer in Russia ruined the quality. At me, when the Russians came to visit and tried the original ones, they said that those that are sold in Russia have nothing to do with ours ...

[dauria]

Obviously, the manufacturer in Russia ruined the quality.

Come on, now quality and price are tightly linked. And everyone understood this. But in the USSR both sawdust from Morshansk and tobacco from the Java factory cost the same. Actually, a real smoker does not care - what is, then smokes and quickly gets used to it. And I didn't like the Bulgarian ones even then. Sometimes there was nothing in the stall, okay, I'll buy it. The Cubans were really different. There, a spasm clenched his throat from the first inhale.

[old_pferd]

Yah. I stocked up with makhorka in the fields for a rainy day, it cost 6 or 7 kopecks Morshansk, and a box of Java pipe tobacco, as far as I remember, was more than a ruble.

[Victor bg]

I liked "Victory" more, and from beer "Zagorka".

[pytar]

I liked "Victory" more, and from beer "Zagorka".

Health, Victor!

[Victor bg]

Cheers !!!

[Amateur]

Want "Stewardess"
- I have "Opal"
And you?
And I have "Shipka"

[major147]

Quote: pytar

But BT were the best!

Do not smoke or smoke!

[Piramidon]

Quote: pytar

Come! Get the latest information personally from the participants in the events!
Here is Vega, here is Rodopi. But BT were the best!

Now smoke them yourself together with NATO friends. I also liked Bulgarian wines and cigarettes and canned vegetables, but after ANOTHER betrayal, I basically will not buy anything Bulgarian or Baltic.

[Lionnvrsk]

In Bulgaria, we smoked mainly Stewardes and Slants. And at home Inter and BT.

[Zoomlion]

BT-excellent whitefish were. I still remember the smell of tobacco. In Lithuania, a pack cost 90 kopecks at 70m. The carcass was the same. They don’t do such things. It’s disadvantageous to put real tobacco in cigarettes. Smoke some chemistry :(

[72jora72]

I liked Vega, with a large filter (like the Rodopi) for 50 kopecks.

There were awesome cigarettes, they appeared in our Chukotka somewhere in 88 and just as suddenly disappeared at 91 ...... (although then "suddenly" almost everything disappeared at once).

[common man]

Quote: 72jora72

Awesome cigarettes were, appeared in Chukotka somewhere in 88, and just as suddenly disappeared in 91

In the 79-80th, in the tenth grade he smoked them. Rhodope with an elongated filter. 35 kopecks pack. Some memories remained.

[Maksim]

Now the Bulgarians will come to the site and explain that we ourselves are to blame for everything, and they are pink and fluffy ..

Personally, I do not care, to the bulb and on the drum what you think about us.

[4ekist]

Contacted with non-contractual.

[pytar]

Not. Contacting Bulgaria is more expensive.

For some reason, it’s more expensive to get in touch with everyone with whom ... Either they are all crooked, or crookedly communicate ...

[Kleber]

Is not a fact. South Stream took only 800 million of greens. And now it's not a fact that this one will be completed in Bulgaria.

[Bagatur]

Who took your milions? Bulgaria? No! They took some people who promised Russia to do something .. Let now find and take your money!

[Piramidon]

Quote: pytar

Not. Contacting Bulgaria is more expensive.

For some reason, it’s more expensive to get in touch with everyone with whom ... Either they are all crooked, or crookedly communicate ...

But you "directly" communicate with the Kaiser, with Hitler, then with NATO. You, Boyan, can you explain to me why Bulgaria, despite the fact that Russia always helped her, constantly found herself in the camp of her enemies? What's in the first world, what's in the second, what's now. Yes, if not for Russia, you would now, perhaps, not here talk about "great Bulgaria" and would have served as a eunuch for the Turkish sultan.

[pytar]

You, Boyan, can you explain to me why Bulgaria, despite the fact that Russia has always helped her, has always been in the camp of its enemies?

I have explained sdes many times, perhaps by you, somewhere in other posts! The problem is that you only look at things from your tower! But there are unpleasant facts for you. Alas, Russia was on the side of our worst enemies, long before that. By the way, why forget the half century in which you and I were the closest friends? After all, this is the very long period in the history of Bulgaria, when she was with whom that ally!

But you "directly" communicate with the Kaiser, with Hitler, then with NATO.

Yes, with Kaiser, RI has been associated for decades, until the end of the 19th century! In the same period he collaborated with Hitler of the USSR very actively! At first, Russia made friends with NATO, we entered the union for 14 years, and later the collapse of the ATS! You ruined him!

Yes, if not for Russia, you would now, perhaps, not here talk about "great Bulgaria" and would have served as a eunuch for the Turkish sultan.

I have not seen a single Bulgarian here on the site who is talking about the "great Bulgarians"! I don't know who I would serve, but I know for sure that without Bulgaria, Russia would be something completely different. Ask what your Akad Likhachev and your Patriarch Kirill (2.03 minutes) are saying on this occasion! !

Akad. Likhachov / unfortunately his voice is due to voicing on the Bolg. turns out to be background /, I don’t know if it will be clear?

[Piramidon]

Quote: pytar

I've explained sdes many times

They explained by their verbiage a pro-Western troll, blaming Russia for everything, but not themselves, white and fluffy. Like, they forced us, we didn't want to, it was you, damned Russians, who forced me ... You certainly do not belong to the Bulgarian people, which I have always respected. I wonder if you are really Bulgarian (I doubt it very much) or are you just pretending to be like ours, some mow under the "Crimean woman, officer"? In fact, you are broadcasting from the headquarters of the NATO trolls.

[pytar]

I don’t know who pretends to be someone, and honestly I’m not interested. I represent only myself and my point of view. Someone doesn't like her, someone likes her. And yes, Stepan, I am Bulgarian, was born and have been living in Bulgaria all my life. And who are you, the issue is controversial ... So I respect the Russian people too, I have half of my Russian relatives. For me, there is also a category that does not cause the slightest respect, to which you clearly relate. That's it ... views are different!

[abc_alex]

Quote: pytar

Alas, Russia was on the side of our worst enemies, long before that.

You had one worst enemy - Turkey. The remaining enemies are local and not principled. There was another strong enemy of Austria-Hungary. And when, tell me, Russia has been on their side? With Turkey, we are now on the brink of war.

Quote: pytar

Yes, with Kaiser, RI has been associated for decades, until the end of the 19th century!

For decades? Let me remind you that Germany was united in 1871. So for "decades" it was with the Kaiser that Russia could not be connected in any way. Likewise, to be not associated with the Prussian royal house - the Russian tsars are in blood relationship with the German houses.
Further, in PEACE TIME everyone is connected with each other, this is natural. Betrayal is spoken of when someone takes the side of the enemy during the WAR. Bulgaria has done this twice. Twice during the war she sided with Russia, and during WW2 and against the Russians as a people. In fact, you supported our mass extermination, our genocide. After all, if you won the war and us, those forum users in nature would not exist. We would be exterminated in gas chambers.

Quote: pytar

In the same period he collaborated with Hitler of the USSR very actively!

Not "one period" but one year. And before that, all ties with Germany were severed. The USSR was the only country in the world that announced the severance of relations with Hitler. Why didn't you follow this example?
And okay, you entered the Second World War before the beginning of the Great Patriotic War. But first, it was already in 1915. Knowing that you will fight the Russians on the side of the Germans. Here what "points of view" do you have in justification, from which side do you accuse Russia?

Quote: pytar

why forget the half century in which you and I were the closest friends?

But because then for you, an alliance with the USSR was the only chance to avoid the stigma of Nazi accomplices. The only chance to enter the new world is not on the rights of the eternally guilty, like the Germans.
We do not forget him. Just remember that this choice was for you forced. And when you have a free choice, you immediately stand in the ranks of our enemies. And now, though you are talking about fraternity, but over and over again bring to power Borisov, who is a complete Russophobe and does Russia only evil. Well, this is his political creed.

[pytar]

Hi Aleksey! I see that you reasonably laid out your thoughts, so I’ll try to explain line by line!

You had one worst enemy - Turkey. The remaining enemies are local and not principled. There was another strong enemy of Austria-Hungary. And when, tell me, Russia has been on their side? With Turkey, we are now on the brink of war.

Turkey will always be an enemy. Both to us and to you. But sometimes, sometimes you have to collaborate with enemies. Here Russia in 2 world wars, fought in alliance with Britain! But the Anglo-Saxons are the worst enemies of the Slavs! From Germany, Austria-Hungary is the same. Russia saved the Austrians during the Hungarian uprising! The USSR saved the Turks in 1920-22. Examples from Russia as you want, while a turn can happen at every moment! Recent events in Syria an example!

For decades? Let me remind you that Germany was united in 1871. So for "decades" it was with the Kaiser that Russia could not be connected in any way.

Speaking of Germany, I endorsed the Union of Three Emperors - 1873-1887. There were periods in previous centuries. I accept your note, I did not exactly put it.

Betrayal is spoken of when someone takes the side of the enemy during the WAR. Bulgaria has done this twice. Twice during the war she sided with Russia, and during WW2 and against the Russians as a people. In fact, you supported our mass extermination, our genocide ... We would have been exterminated in gas chambers.

Alexei, in WW1 Bulgaria fought for her National Unification! It would have been impossible with an alliance with the Entente! There are many questions to Russia, why did she turn around, retreating from the goals of 1878?
In WW2, we did not fight against the USSR. In the situation prevailing then in Europe, it was the maximum possible for us! Yes, the Nazis exterminated the peoples of the USSR, but could not destroy them! And our not a multitude of people would demand for a year. And there would be neither Bulgaria nor the Bulgarians. The USSR and Bulgaria are incomparable in their scales and in their capabilities. The main goal of Tsar Boris is to save Bulgaria with the least losses! Can we blame him? Unlikely!

Not "one period" but one year. And before that, all ties with Germany were severed. The USSR was the only country in the world that announced the severance of relations with Hitler. Why didn't you follow this example?

2 years without 1 month. During this "one" year, the Soviets managed to cooperate very successfully! Territories were added, they were actively trading! Bulgaria did the same! Moreover, it entered the Axis, a year and a half after the Ribentrop-Molotov Pact! You liberated Western Ukraine and Belorussia, added the Baltic states, moved the border from Finland / failed to annex it /! And we liberated Macedonia and Bellomor Thrace. Still peacefully liberated Southern Dobrudja! All these are territories with the Bulgarian population occupied by our neighbors in previous wars.
And then, to break off relations with Germany, when the Wehrmacht walked around the country, it was not possible. Bulgaria had extremely limited military resources.

And okay, you entered WWII before the start of World War II.

You too! We moved to Polshi, added the Baltic states, attacked Finland!

Knowing that you will fight the Russians on the side of the Germans. Here what "points of view" do you have in justification, from which side do you accuse Russia?

Aleksey, find an agreement on joining the Axis! There, part 5 / if memory does not fail me / indicates that "each of the signatory countries of the pact can have relations with the USSR at their discretion"! Those. the pact did not oblige members to participate in the war against the USSR! Japan did not attack the USSR, but Finland, the Axis member was not a fighter! By the way I do not blame Russia! 1. Russia and the USSR are different things for me. 2. When he acted according to his interests!

But because then for you, an alliance with the USSR was the only chance to avoid the stigma of Nazi accomplices.

The propaganda is branded! And it turns where the authorities show it! I am not surprised that the "interested" brand the USSR for the Ribentrop-Mollotov Pact as an "accomplice" of the Nazis! My advice - if you want to know the truth, get away from propaganda.

Just remember that this choice was forced for you. And when you have a free choice, you immediately stand in the ranks of our enemies. ... though you are talking about fraternity, but over and over again bring to power Borisov, who is a complete Russophobe and does Russia only evil.

If for the superpower of the USSR temporary cooperation with the Nazi Germany was forced to choose, what is the fault of a small country in Bulgaria? The same thing after the 90s! You abandoned all your allies, among them Bulgaria was itself, true!
Brotherhood is a concept that exists between people, but in politics it does not exist! They are ruled by an interesting one! What is in the West, what is in Russia, what is in China?
Borisov is far from Russophobe. Ask the opinion of the former director of RISI, gene. Reshetnikova. Borisov has a very narrow perimeter for maneuver. And he somehow manages to protect our interests. That's why we choose, although we criticize and scold. Under his control, the economy has risen.
I apologize for the long post I did, but you have raised a lot of questions! I hope I have time to answer? All the best to you, Alexey!

[iouris]

If you are not able to build your gas pipelines yourself, then you do not need to build them until you are capable.

[Salty]

Quote: iouris

If you are not able to build your own gas pipelines, then you don’t need to build them until you are capable of

Smiled. Until you learn how to pull out your teeth and treat yourself with a stomach ulcer ... well, you understand.

[pytar]

Gazprom has reduced the price of gas for Bulgaria by 40% November 03.03.2020, XNUMX
Bulgarian Prime Minister Boyko Borisov said that Gazprom has reduced the price of gas for the country by 40%.

"Gazprom" today handed over to us the signed agreement with the largest reduction in the price of natural gas, by more than 40% "- Borisov announced at a press conference.
He defined the event as a "symbolic gift" for the 142nd anniversary of Bulgaria's liberation in the Russian-Turkish war of 1877-1878, which is celebrated on March 3, stressing that diversification and competition are actually driving down gas prices.
Gazprom Export TASS confirmed the conclusion of the agreement. "As part of the procedure for revising the price of Russian natural gas supplied to Bulgaria, Gazprom Export and Bulgargaz reached a mutually beneficial decision and signed a corresponding agreement.", - the company said.
Bulgarian Energy Minister Temenuzhka Petkova noted the important role that the European Commission played during the negotiations.
"Thanks to the intervention of the European Commission, we can today rejoice at this excellent result."- the minister said, calling the reduction in gas prices unprecedented.
The head of the Bulgargaz company Nikolay Pavlov announced that he will propose to the Commission on Energy and Water Regulation to reduce the cost of gas for the Bulgarian consumer by 40%, to 26,29 leva (about € 14) per megawatt hour starting from April, from the current 44,04 leva (about € 22). Gas prices have been retrospectively reduced from 5 August 2019.

[Winnie76]

Put them in the penalty for the full program, if possible

[pytar]

Put them in the penalty for the full program, if possible

There is no way, no matter how you wish. By the way, if Arkad really does not meet the deadlines, he will pay big fines to Bulgaria.

[Kleber]

Quote: pytar

By the way, if Arkad really does not meet the deadlines, he will pay big fines to Bulgaria.

Those. In any case, Bulgaria is in profit. That means they will build it or not for Bulgaria is not important.

[pytar]

Those. In any case, Bulgaria is in profit. That means they will build it or not for Bulgaria is not important.

They’ll build it, Valery, they’ll build it ... in spite of the minors ...
As far as before, they created 1.additional infrastructure / it is already ready / and at the same time 2. laid pipes, part of the resources went to 1. In the coming months, everything will be concentrated on pipe laying. Well, if you are late from the schedule, we will fine. I am aware of the service.

[major147]

Quote: pytar

By the way, if Arkad really does not meet the deadlines, he will pay big fines to Bulgaria.

But what about the Serbs?

[pytar]

But what about the Serbs?

And what about the Serbs?

[72jora72]

And what about the Serbs?

This is your whole essence.

[Bagatur]

Serbia? We are all exactly what is happening there ...

[pytar]

This is your whole essence.

I don’t understand ... And what about Serbia? Where did they still get gas from?

[bessmertniy]

The Bulgarians could be invited and the Russian contractor, but not Saudi. And it is unlikely that today they would talk about a deadline.

[pytar]

The Bulgarians could be invited and the Russian contractor, but not Saudi. And it is unlikely that today they would talk about a deadline.

The Russian contractor lost in the first round of the tender. Then the winner Arkad did not have time to provide part of the required documentation and the ego commission eliminated. Arkad sued, the court considered his objections to be solid and reinstated as the winner of the competition. Ross the contractor was going to appeal, but realizing that the tender was being delayed and construction began to be postponed, he dismissed the complaint. As a result, construction began later than expected. All procedures for selecting an executor in Bulgaria are carried out according to the Law of Public Orders. The law was respected literally by letters, as the whole procedure was monitored by the European Commission. This was one of the conditions of the European Union. In the case that Arkad does not meet the terms of the contract, he faces serious fines. Whether there will be a serous lateness is still unclear. All existing infrastructure along the route has already been created / warehouses with pipes, installation sites, approaches, etc. /. As far as it is technologically advanced with respect to laying pipes, it should be expected that in the next months the laying speed will accelerate. It was said more simply: Until now, they have simultaneously built (tech. Stage 1) base sites along the highway (95-98% ready), and (tech. 2) pipe laying (30% ready). Now they will concentrate all efforts on (stage 2).

[Vladimir61]

Quote: pytar

All procedures for selecting an executor in Bulgaria are carried out according to the Law of Public Orders. The law was respected literally by letters, as the whole procedure was monitored by the European Commission.

Do not be offended! In general, we do not mean the Bulgarian people, but the political elite in power.

[pytar]

Do not be offended! In general, we do not mean the Bulgarian people, but the political elite in power.

Before it, and you have a lot of questions for the government ... It is necessary to give all accounts to the Prime Minister that Borisov is under constant pressure, both from the West and from the East. The power is heterogeneous, they try to maneuver between conflicting interests. This is the most reasonable, in view of this situation. Not always succeeds, but efforts do.

[major147]

Whether there will be a serous lateness is still unclear.

And what did the Bulgarian president promise the Russian?

[pytar]

And what did the Bulgarian president promise the Russian?

Not President Radev, but Premier Borisov. He promised that they would try to meet the deadlines. And we must pay tribute to the Bulgarian authorities! Try to provide all stacker requests. We adjusted the entire administrative resource so that there were no membranes from the side of Bulgaria. For a long time I have not seen such an expeditious reaction to solving problems. Another question is how much the Arcade teammates really appreciated their capabilities! To win a tent, they laid too short a time! They work to the limit, the quality of welding works raises questions! We looked at how things would develop further. In all cases, the object will be completed before the end of the year, and if all the same they do not meet the terms of the contract, they will be fined in millions of dollars.

[major147]

Quote: pytar

Not President Radev, but Premier Borisov.

Sorry, confused ...

[abc_alex]

Quote: pytar

Another question is how much the Arcade teammates really appreciated their capabilities!

And what, on your part, there was no examination? So you chose a contractor based only on his promises?

[pytar]

And what, on your part, there was no examination? So you chose a contractor based only on his promises?

This is a very lengthy documentation and everything goes through several level examinations. The proposal of the candidate is evaluated by many parameters. Among them are price and term. On the technical side, the candidate presents a step-by-step rationale. There and providing with equipment, labor, and so on. The commission may require additional data, or raise questions. Arkad won the general score, but did not manage to submit the required additional information on time, and he was disqualified. He appealed and the court returned it, believing that the documents, although not submitted formally on time, were still submitted. Despite strict adherence to standards, delays during construction may occur. The question is whether Arkad can catch up, and if not, what will be the consequences? The contract provides for fines for each day of delay. And if a dispute arises, the court decides. It also in Russia often has problems and slowdowns on objects. In short, let's see how things will develop.

[major147]

Quote: pytar

Now they will concentrate all efforts on (stage 2)

Belgrade, Feb 26 - IA Neftegaz.RU. Infrastructure Development And Construction doo (IDC), which has built the onshore continuation section of the 2nd string of the gas pipeline (IHP) Turkish Stream (South stream lite) in Serbia, will participate in the construction of the Bulgarian gas pipeline section.
On February 24, 2020, the Serbian newspaper Politika reported.
As part of the IHP project, the Balkan Stream Arkad attracted 5 subcontractors, including IDC
According to the newspaper, IDC is a Russian company, but its headquarters is located in Belgrade.

[pytar]

As part of the IHP project, the Balkan Stream Arkad attracted 5 subcontractors, including IDC
According to the newspaper, IDC is a Russian company, but its headquarters is located in Belgrade.

Yes! And there is! It seems to me that they / Arkad / should have at the very beginning cooperated with a competitor so that they didn’t go on the verge of collapse.

[cat Rusich]

No offense. Will Bulgaria "bite" "Arkad ? - claim a forfeit $

[pytar]

The Bulgarians could be invited and the Russian contractor, but not Saudi. And it is unlikely that today they would talk about a deadline.

Have invited. They even tried to give him an order, eliminating the Saudis on a formal occasion. But it did not work, the judge returned the Arcade ....

[svp67]

Yes, really ... well done "little brothers" ... why not a Ukrainian company or an American one? Those could even build less ...

[cniza]

Quote: svp67

Yes, really ... well done "little brothers" ... why not a Ukrainian company or an American one? Those could even build less ...

They were clearly told whom to hire ...

[Maksim]

Many who spoke. Including from the Russian Federation.

[pytar]

Quote: svp67

Yes, really ... well done "little brothers" ... why not a Ukrainian company or an American one? Those could even build less ...

Yes, because one Russian and one Saudi appeared at the tender.

[cat Rusich]

GazProm has also "burned" at the contractor for laying SP-2 - now we are driving "Academician Chersky" "across 3 oceans". Conclusion: if you want to do something - do it yourself !!!

[Mountain shooter]

Politics intervenes in all serious economic projects ... Under any pretext, and even violating all previously adopted international laws ... This is the REAL competition. Thanks to the striped-eared, the training takes place as hard and fast as possible ...

[Zaurbek]

It was necessary to make a detour from the Bulgarians. They put sticks in wheels worse than enemies.

[pytar]

It was necessary to make a detour from the Bulgarians. They put sticks in wheels worse than enemies.

Expensive and senseless ... It is your "enemies, traitors ...".

[Zaurbek]

Well, specifically Bulgaria is definitely traitors

[Bagatur]

Is Bulgaria a subject of the Russian Federation?

[Lionnvrsk]

If Poland is the hyena of Europe, then Bulgaria is the mouse of Europe.

[kjhg]

Quote: pytar

You have it "where you are enemies, where you are traitors ...".

It's true. Wow, the current Russian authorities do not have a single ally, and even within the country most of the people would gladly have pulled them on a dung rope. But while by cunning, propaganda and total deception, they still manage to stay afloat. We really hope not for long

[pytar]

Many began to understand the situation ... No matter how thick the fog was, it would shed in one moment.

[kjhg]

And accept my respect from me
By the way, how do you like your current head, Rumen Radev? More decent than Borisov, or the same ...?

[pytar]

And accept my respect from me

Mutually!

By the way, how do you like your current head, Rumen Radev? More decent than Borisov, or the same ...?

Radev is the leader in popularity among Bulgarian politicians. I would not say that Borisov is not decent. You look from the side how they relate to Russia, and how we work as a whole. In view of the difference in functions and responsibilities, more negative is superimposed on Borisov, and positive on Radev. Both of them do their job, both know what discipline is! Air Force General and Interior Ministry General!

The tandem would be very effective, but here the old Bulgarian feature is taking shape! Instead of leaving aside their political preferences and joining forces for the good of the country, they are conflicting among themselves!

[Zaurbek]

I will say even more Bulgaria was a traitor and the Republic of Ingushetia and the Russian Federation and the USSR ...... #only children?

[Lionnvrsk]

Quote: kjhg

most of the people would gladly have pulled them up on a dung rope.

Do not flatter yourself. This is your personal opinion. And you do not belong to the people of Russia, at least to most of it. Is that to hamsters Lyoha anal.

[Maksim]

Yeah - do it through Mars. The flag is in your hands. Maybe through Syria.

[Paul Siebert]

Well, Turkish Stream turned out to be completely Turkish.
As you call a yacht - so it will sail!
Will the Bulgarians finish their site? Is not a fact. The Saudi contractor is most likely just a saboteur under the hood of the royal intelligence services.
And the Bulgarians "have no right to influence it" ... An ideal carom!
So now - to trade gas with the Turks? It seems to be going to fight with them?

[dauria]

So now - to trade gas with the Turks?

Don't be upset. The main thing is that everyone needs gas. Run-run, beat the price, but then come. Buy from others? Well, our descendants will have more of their gas.
These are dollars you can print and all sorts of paper "futures". You can't print gas.

[major147]

Quote: dauria

So now - to trade gas with the Turks?

Don't be upset. The main thing is that everyone needs gas. Run-run, beat the price, but then come. Buy from others? Well, our descendants will have more of their gas.
These are dollars you can print and all sorts of paper "futures". You can't print gas.

So Bulgaria normally receives gas, but Serbia does not.

[pytar]

Well, Turkish Stream turned out to be completely Turkish.

For this reason, Turks are killing Russians in Syria ... and quite rubbing their hands ...

Will the Bulgarians finish their site? Is not a fact.

Don’t cry earlier than time, it may turn out to be wasted handkerchiefs ... They will finish building, do not hesitate.

And the Bulgarians "have no right to influence it" ... An ideal carom!

So far, there is no reason. Laying figures are confusing, but they do not take into account what part of the laying takes from the entire technical process. Everything is spelled out in the contracts, the lag from the linear schedule is not yet large.

So now - to trade gas with the Turks? It seems to be going to fight with them?

You will soon understand who you are dealing with and who you are hugging ...

[pytar]

Quote: APIS

All deadlines have already been ...

Is this your "inner feeling" or have you read contracts?

[APIS]

There is an understanding that you immediately print your contracts on soft paper with perforation.
Your penalties from the Arabs are of little concern; you have become an uncomfortable gasket between the seller and the buyer. By God, it would be better if they went through Albania.

[pytar]

There is an understanding that you immediately print your contracts on soft paper with perforation.

There is an understanding that you don’t understand anything from the contracts ...

Your penalties from the Arabs are of little concern; you have become an uncomfortable gasket between the seller and the buyer.

Not supposed to worry anyone except us and the Arabs. We are one of the buyers, and sellers should think about the buyers due. So it is in market conditions.

By God, it would be better if they went through Albania.

Of course! No problem! The current must again go through Bulgaria ... And the Albanians are not enthusiastic about letting the Russians go. pipe through itself ..

[APIS]

Of course there are no problems, how much is Bulgaria in kilometers and consumers. Sometimes you need to get around the swamp, the direct path is not always the fastest.

[pytar]

Of course there are no problems, how much is Bulgaria in kilometers and consumers.

But in Gazprom and in the Russian government, they don’t think so! It turns out that either they do not understand anything, or you!

Sometimes you need to get around the swamp, the direct path is not always the fastest.

According to the "geography of Evlampy", there are swamps around Russia!

[APIS]

Did I write somewhere that Bulgaria is everything? Rather, the opposite.
Gazprom is really not stupid. It is better to pay for gas transit, rather than money.
Better yet, do not go through the swamp.

[pytar]

Did I write somewhere that Bulgaria is everything? Rather, the opposite.

Pipes began to bypass Ukraine! It’s like a swamp ... Then they didn’t like Bulgaria, like a swamp too ... And where did they go? To Turkey! In the very swamp!

Gazprom is really not stupid. It is better to pay for gas transit, rather than money.

They pay for transit in money, according to some contracts. They sell gas for money for others. By the way, something unimaginable happens in the moment! Gazprom sells gas to itself, pumping it across the Bulgarian border back to Turkey! This is about the competence of "effective managers" ...

Better yet, do not go through the swamp.

Right! For this, you need to look at your place where you are stepping ... If your feet are wet at home, then those will be better in spring.

[APIS]

Ukraine was dragged into the mud not so long ago, and a pipe was laid through it not yesterday. Moreover, it’s already rotten and it's not a pity to quit.
And here again to climb into another swamp is short-sighted.
Let's hope the lesson goes for the future. We will sell your site to the same Turks. You’ll heat wood, and only serve the pipe for food.

[major147]

Quote: pytar

You will soon understand who you are dealing with and who you are hugging ...

Those are at least open enemies, and Russians were not called "brothers" ...

[pytar]

Quote: major147

Those are at least open enemies, and Russians were not called "brothers" ...

This has nothing to do with real politics! Historically, the RI / USSR / RF changed their allies and enemies in a circle. Including the relationship with the same Turkey. Especially in the last ten years. Fact.

[major147]

Quote: pytar

Quote: major147

Those are at least open enemies, and Russians were not called "brothers" ...

This has nothing to do with real politics! Historically, the RI / USSR / RF changed their allies and enemies in a circle. Including the relationship with the same Turkey. Especially in the last ten years. Fact.

One thing is politics, and quite another, the relationship between peoples ....

[Ros 56]

They would have completely closed this question and not entered the games of big boys, since they are so flawed.

[Livonetc]

So they do not play.
Play them.
They are not even asked.

[Ros 56]

And what follows from this? And take off the hell, let them sit at home and not shine. Nobody pulled their president by the tongue.

[Livonetc]

So the words of their president are worthless.
This is just a territory (wasteland).
There are many of these in the world now.

[Pete mitchell]

Quote: Livonetc

their president’s words are worthless.

We regularly return to the idea of ​​the independence of all of thesenewborn democracies. Totally agree with you

Quote: Livonetc

So they do not play. Play them. They are not even asked.

Touches confidence of local Bulgarians about their equality in Europe: did they even talk to anyone in this Europe? Would highly recommend - useful for enlightenment in the head

[pytar]

We regularly return to the idea of ​​the independence of all these newborn democracies.

Question: Is Russia a democracy? If yes, does the topic relate to it?

It touches the confidence of local Bulgarians about their equal rights in Europe: did they even talk to anyone in that Europe?

In the European Union - one country, one vote. Although equality is nowhere, never in the world has existed 100%.

[Pete mitchell]

Quote: pytar

In the European Union - one country, one vote. Although equality is nowhere, never in the world has existed 100%.

I agree with you - complete equality, and the determining voice will be German: after the Britons are tired, the whole EU will hang on the Germans, and given the soft expansion of German banks in eastern Europe - a matter of time. The Scandinavians have been indignant for several years that the Germans are creating financial reichbut no one to stop them.
And so as not to return: I had the opportunity to see firsthand how this is done unanimity, very quickly take for Faberge dissatisfied.

Quote: pytar

RF democracy?

My dear, you will determine your place in space. Already the Russian Federation, it will independently decide how to live it, the benefit is all there is to it

[pytar]

Quote: Pete Mitchell

My dear, you will determine your place in space. Already the Russian Federation, it will independently decide how to live it, the benefit is all there is to it

I asked, it seems a simple question ...

[Bagatur]

I had tears in my eyes ... During the USSR and the VD, there was equal balance, right? We remember what happened in Hungary and Czechoslovakia when they tried to think independently ...

[Pete mitchell]

Quote: bagatura

I have tears in my eyes ...

Why tears, nothing has changed for you: the one who pays for the music orders it, and it's not you.

Quote: bagatura

During the USSR and the Airborne Forces were equal, weren't they? ..

Probably not an ideal relationship, so getting to democracy you are not able to open your mouth on your own, all look at mentors: when to nod? Wake up: you dance as they want; although this is your business, fulfill your obligations and you will be pleased

Quote: bagatura

We remember what happened in Hungary and Czechoslovakia when they tried to think independently ...

And the Russian Federation remembers, and rightly so. I hope you don’t forget how, with your tacit consent, you jerked Yugoslavia, Libya, as you sell weapons to any punks. There is enough courage to admit that the same French simply put you / Nata before the fact of the beginning of hostilities in Libya: they do not give a damn about you as allies - they again dance to you and no snot about equality

[pytar]

I hope you will not forget how, with your tacit consent, Derbani Yugoslavia, Libya ...

Pete Mitchell, I want to warn you, you will NOT get mutual understanding from the Bulgarians on the topics of Yugoslavia and Libya ... By the way, the Yugoslav wars were fought from the 90s to 2001. Then Bulgaria was not yet a NATO member. And with Gaddafi, we have our own scores! Just understand as a fact.

[Pete mitchell]

France allegedly presented your scores to Libya without asking you, from the word at all. It was on the issue of equality

[pytar]

France allegedly presented your scores to Libya without asking you, from the word at all. It was on the issue of equality

It was thanks to France that our tormented nurse was saved, who became hostages at Gaddafi. To which question you refer, it does not matter the slightest.

[Pete mitchell]

And present yourself? Have you pulled your pilot out of Somalia? I remember when my friend "left" quietly with your shooting there for three years, "sunbathed" ...
The question, in general, was about something else: even in the situation with Libya you were played, and the French did not care about your nurses

[pytar]

And present yourself?

A whole group of powers has helped us. France, Belgium and other EU countries, the USA, even the UN has joined! The emir of Qatar played an invaluable role. As a thank you, the highest Bulgarian order was awarded. Question From the mad Qadafi, it was impossible otherwise. I don’t know about the details of the case in Somalia.

even in the situation with Libya you were played, and the French did not care about your nurses

More importantly, thanks to broad international support, we managed to pull our nurses out of the nails of the bastard. Everything else is your personal interpretation.

[Pete mitchell]

Quote: pytar

About the details of the case in Somalia, I do not know

Pytar, here is the answer: when it was without gesheft - no one remembered, but he worked at the UN between times, I hope he got out. Ours were also helped: one country from your list organized a call for identification, and that’s all. Sami and left ...

[Pete mitchell]

Quote: pytar

Quote: Tramp

even in the situation with Libya you were played, and the French did not care about your nurses

More importantly, thanks to broad international support, we managed to pull our nurses out of the nails of the bastard.

By the way, Pytar, you read in English, but moderators will forgive me: Despite these denegations, it is commonly accepted that the arms deal / with the French / would not have been possible if the six hadn't been freed, as Europe generally would have sided with Bulgaria on this issue. The head of the Bulgarian intelligence, General Kirtcho Kirov, declared that important arms contracts and oil contracts were at stake and where are the interests of Bulgarian nurses?

[pytar]

The information you quote once again proves the fact that Gaddafi was a terrorist and extortionist. And he deserved his fate. Unfortunately, many Libyan suffered.

[Pete mitchell]

From your words it turns out that if your country, for example, ceases to embed civilized westwho does not give a damn about your interests, and they throw you bombs, are they a priori justified by you? Funny logic

[pytar]

From your words it turns out that if your country, for example, ceases to build a civilized west that does not give a damn about your interests, and they bomb you with bombs, are they a priori justified by you? Funny logic

This is by your logic so. And in my opinion it looks different: Libya - one bandit / Uncle Sem / eliminated another bandit / Gaddafi /. Happens, bandits of each other are teasing. It is good that Gaddafi received the well-deserved, bad that the people of Libya suffered! And for the bandits, every one moment may turn out to be objectionable!

[Pete mitchell]

Pytar, aren't you funny yourself? A fairly successful country was torn apart in the interests of a particular Monsieur and Uncle Sema. What do you think about their ally? Ready to feed the refugees? But what about the allied duty of which you are sure to be reminded? Ready? So you will continue to play, get stronger

[pytar]

After reading your post, I immediately remembered Afghanistan! The USSR tried to build socialism there, and then the US democracy! Neither one nor the other worked! Libya ... a successful totalitarian country. I confess - I was glad when they banged the psychotic Muammar. By the way, the USSR also fraternized with odious dictators, some of them with obvious mental retreats. Ugandan Idi Amin for example. And other USSR banged. Here is another Amin, current Hafizullah ... Assad, supported by the Russian Federation, is also not a flower! Why am I all this? And besides, the bandits are "ours" and "not ours". From that and the attitude towards them. The question is - does it make sense to destroy dictatorial regimes in countries where peoples do not know how to live differently, except for the purpose of eliminating not our guy? Conclusion: the West and the USSR / RF acted in their own interests, not particularly bothering with moral categories.

[pytar]

Yes, this is my mistake, I did not know the details of the case in Somalia. Thanks for the info.

[Pete mitchell]

I don’t know how it happened with your pilot in the end.

[Maksim]

Yes, and take the horseradish

Well, f @ r with you, if you want to.

[Same lech]

150 days passed ... another 100 days left under the contract ... we wait and stock up on popcorn.
We are neither cold nor hot from this delay.

[Maksim]

I can share the Coke.

[pytar]

150 days passed ... another 100 days left under the contract ... we wait and stock up on popcorn.
We are neither cold nor hot from this delay.

And we are neither cold nor hot. For each day of delay under the contract, Arkad will pay forfeits.

[Kleber]

Quote: pytar

And we are neither cold nor hot. For each day of delay under the contract, Arkad will pay forfeits.

All you need to know about Bulgaria’s friendly relations with Russia.

[pytar]

All you need to know about Bulgaria’s friendly relations with Russia.

To some this is a lot. They do not want to know, and for them there is only their point of view.

[Prisoner]

The Hindus are already envious of the Bulgarian "dances". Well, they are not brothers! That’s never a brother. There are Bulgarians who are friends, but not the majority!

[Maksim]

Sociology in the studio!

[cniza]

Meanwhile, the contractor is accused of all troubles in the Bulgarian GTS.

Bulgaria is "dressed on the arm" of the State Department and that says it all ...

[Maksim]

Hitting, no? Can you poison you on a long trip too?

[cniza]

I didn’t mean the people, but your politicians ... if this is not so prove it.

[Maksim]

And our politicians are no better and no worse than yours. They think in the first line for themselves, which means how best to sell and raise dough based on their capabilities. I think everyone understood what it was about. That Bulgaria, that the USA, that the Russian Federation - always politics dances to the tune of Gazprom / Rosneft. I exaggerate of course, but the essence is the same.

[Nikolay87]

Already not critical, anyway there is an agreement on the Ukrainian GTS

[pytar]

Already not critical, anyway there is an agreement on the Ukrainian GTS

The signing of an agreement with Ukraine is the result of the failure of the GDP strategy to circumvent it. And the SP-2 and TP stalled. In the case of TP, Russia itself bears the blame. Why did you have to succumb to a tender for the Bulgarian site? To get more money on order? And when it became clear that the tender would last for months, they responded! Construction could begin 2 months earlier, if these attempts were not Ross. the company to break still loot!

[Maksim]

Kina will be seen.

[Boris Ivanov]

"brothers" they are .. they will give everyone who gives more.
-Never they were Russian brothers. enemies yes. in both world wars. and now they are under the same standards.

[EDWARD]

all these bros .. remember about Russia when they feel bad, or need something.

[Yang yangov]

Army, VKS, Navy .. these are our allies! and the rest is from the evil one!

[svp67]

Quote: Yang Yangov

Army, VKS, Navy .. these are our allies! and the rest is from the evil one!

It turns out the Strategic Missile Forces, Railway troops, the Ministry of Emergencies .... from the evil one?

[Maksim]

La-la-la .... Who told you that we were hired as brothers? In both MVs you yourself climbed to us. Learn the story, not watch the zombie creator.

[Incvizitor]

It was necessary to pull through Greece and Macedonia to Serbia, but let these sit without gas.

[Maksim]

Pull who's stopping you. I have been dancing with a tambourine under the name "pipeline" for 26 years. Maybe this fact speaks of something.

[svoit]

The reason for this speed of construction is unclear

But didn’t the desire arise to find out from the author of the article?
(well, at least out of sporting interest)

[Maksim]

It has neither desire nor opportunity. But in the trend - not a single good word about Bulgaria. This comes around, but then it will be too late to be saved by a mineral water.

[Gado]

The trend, however. By cursing, spitting and humiliating the Bulgarian people.
Above you have all explained to me my sonarodniki, do not be lazy to delve into what they wrote.

[Maksim]

And they are on the drum. They were here to raise a booth, and not for discussion. I am surprised that only one character about MV stuttered. Apparently the discussion-methodologists did not catch up. Day off ....

[Maksim]

Quote: Vladimir61

Quote: pytar

All procedures for selecting an executor in Bulgaria are carried out according to the Law of Public Orders. The law was respected literally by letters, as the whole procedure was monitored by the European Commission.

Do not be offended! In general, we do not mean the Bulgarian people, but the political elite in power.

It’s interesting, and if I inadvertently begin to discuss the Russian government, will some be offended? For example, when the Russian government in 1996-1997 organized a grain famine in Bulgaria together with its local toadies. You will be offended if I so accidentally call them female dogs, no?

[Lionnvrsk]

Quote: cniza

"BT" is a completely different class - a solid pack ..

It was BT and in soft packs.

[ZVS]

"Brothers" again made Miller, and more Putin.
It seems to me more and more that with age, Putin became incapable of learning even from his mistakes.
Or maybe his last time thoughts revolve only around a rich, calm old age?

[Maksim]

I think the FSB is already talking to you for running over the guarantors. If you still don’t talk, prepare a toothbrush, soap (useful) and grub for 3 days. They are already coming from the FSB to you.

[ochakow703]

Yes, even if they adopt 100500 laws for their loved ones, but if they mow ... then please be so kind as to receive and sign.

[pytar]

Brothers "made Miller again, and more Putin.

Bulgaria managed to defend its interests, being in an extremely difficult international situation! It got its own pipe, broke the local monopoly of Gazprom, because of which we received gas at 2 times more expensive than on the stock exchanges, diversified supplies, now the prices are going down, remained on the Yugovost gas map. Europe, they will soon begin to build a stock exchange - the "Balkan" distribution hub, guaranteed itself supplies in the required volumes. It would be impossible if the UP was built in spite of the EU! It would be a disaster for Bulgaria! Here is a question for P and M, what are they? Vserioz believed that they can do on the territory of the EU, what do they enter?

It seems to me more and more that with age, Putin became incapable of learning even from his mistakes.

Not mine, but I’ll say it all the same ... All his plans failed. These multi-billion dollar pipelines started to bypass Ukraine! Deprive her of transit! Tipo to punish! It failed, moreover, the investment is not known when it will pay off and will it pay off at all? In fact, TP went to BG on conditions that P did not accept for UP! Why was it necessary then to abandon the UP? Okay ... we went around, but then they did not like Bulgaria! We decided to get around her! Where? To Turkey? Yes, Turkey is worse than Ukraine! Why did you have to give trump cards to Erdogan, Turkey's strategic interests have always contradicted Russian? Didn’t read the story, or what? In general, wherever you look, you couldn’t think it over ... you didn’t realize it ... I apologize, but there are obvious mistakes with far-reaching consequences!

[VLADIMIR VLADIVOSTOK]

Campaign friends in America command. Bulgaria has not decided anything for a long time