Dozens of tanks were destroyed, Buk air defense systems: the General Staff of the Turkish Armed Forces announced a strike on the SAA in Idlib

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The General Staff of the Turkish Armed Forces presented data on what military equipment of the Syrian army and in what quantity the Turkish military destroyed in the province of Idlib (Syria). A statement by the General Staff of the Turkish Armed Forces states that a massive attack on Syrian positions led to the destruction of the Pantsir air defense system, the Buk air defense system, and more than two dozen tanks, 23 self-propelled guns, artillery mounts. It is also reported that the Syrian army as a result of the strike lost 5 helicopters.

According to the Minister of Defense of Turkey, Hulusi Akar, “consequences for the regime” led to actions against the Turkish military. Recall that on the eve of the Turkish Armed Forces lost 33 of their soldiers and officers in Idlib, 32 more soldiers were injured.



Hulusi Acar:

This became a retribution for the troops of the regime. We hit their positions with our drones.

Recall that today, Akar arrived in Hatay province - on the border with the SAR - in order to personally lead the operation against the Syrian government forces. Speaking about the death of Turkish military personnel, Ankara blames the Russian Federation as well, stating that Russia knew about the locations of the Turkish military. However, at the same time, the same Hulusi Akar does not say that for some reason jihadists, including terrorists of the Khayyat Tahrir al-Sham group - the “repainted” Jebhat-en-Nusra, were located in the places of deployment of Turkish soldiers and officers. which is recognized as terrorist in the UN and banned in Russia and dozens of countries.
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    1. +59
      28 February 2020 13: 11
      And 4 starships.
      1. ABM
        +16
        28 February 2020 13: 24
        the video is shown with these blows - they may, of course, exaggerate, but the general impression is that they are taken seriously
        1. +18
          28 February 2020 13: 29
          Here it is. Let's see what the Syrians say, show. Yes, and how to answer.
          1. +31
            28 February 2020 13: 36
            It’s strong, but it’s not clear, and where the Syrians have air defense, don’t supply them with so much equipment, the result will be the same.
            1. -13
              28 February 2020 14: 39
              Surprisingly, the Syrians are silent, and the Turks screamed about the losses. It seems that Turkish aviation gouged Turkoman belay
            2. +1
              28 February 2020 16: 24
              Well, do we have no such drones? !! recourse
              1. +4
                28 February 2020 16: 43
                Well, do we have no such drones? !!


                Drums are only in development.
                1. ABM
                  0
                  28 February 2020 19: 05
                  Self-propelled guns 155 fire, a movie drone shoots only
          2. +27
            28 February 2020 13: 37
            It is not clear why Turkish drones feel so at ease.
            1. ABM
              +1
              28 February 2020 13: 51
              three pieces shot down according to Syrian data
            2. -2
              28 February 2020 14: 34
              Quote: Threaded Screw
              It is not clear why Turkish drones feel so at ease.

              Because air defense in Syria is not a solid dome. I think that S-300/400 will be transferred to those borders, Buki and Armor in sufficient quantities, so that this does not happen again. I won’t be surprised if news of a downed Turkish UAV or a fighter soon appears.
            3. -7
              28 February 2020 16: 19
              Well, they flew over the territory of Turkey and sometimes entered the territory of Idlib controlled by the Turkoman. And, hike, they filled up their Turks.
              They thought that the Syrians, but turned out to be their Turks. They got scared of the wrath of the Turkish people and blamed everything on Russia. Russia claims to have hit where the Turkish military was not. Question: Where did dozens of corpses of the Turkish military come from then?
              It may well be that the Turks themselves failed them, I think they are Syrians.
          3. -16
            28 February 2020 13: 49
            Everything is exactly like in a pharmacy, the ammunition looks like Jewish or American, the consumption of ammunition is 1 to hit 1 target, 100% effect, this is not "cast iron" for you to pour at the peak wink damaging the tires ...
            1. -11
              28 February 2020 13: 55
              it's not "cast iron" for you to sprinkle at the peak of wink damaging tires ...
              The army is the army.
            2. +5
              28 February 2020 13: 59
              Quote: Skubudu
              it's not "cast iron" for you to sprinkle at the peak of wink damaging tires ...

              But ours boasted a dozen perforated wheels on the whole armored personnel carriers.
              And someone expected that the Turks would run with slingshots? These are not barmalei in slippers, this is a regular army. Moreover, not badly armed. SAA against them there is nothing to catch. All hope that ours will iron them. And ours will not.
              1. -12
                28 February 2020 22: 25
                By the way, Assad soldiers walk in slippers. Today, a dozen caught and all in slippers))
            3. ABM
              +4
              28 February 2020 14: 05
              miss the first seconds of the video!
              1. 0
                28 February 2020 14: 48
                And the crew leaves the tank, and the mechanic entered the tank.
              2. +7
                28 February 2020 21: 48
                The tank is on - the entire engine compartment. And the tankman got out wounded and shell-shocked.
                1. 0
                  29 February 2020 02: 23
                  Quote: TatarinSSSR
                  The tank is on - the entire engine compartment. And the tankman got out wounded and shell-shocked.

                  It is true that he is leaving. What is the point of burning in a tank?
                  Even in a more severe war like the Second World War, our fighters were forbidden to leave the tank only if it was immobilized. If it is on, leave the car immediately. The truth is often Arabs like hares jump out of the tank, as soon as some kind of blank disc hits the tower.
                  1. +1
                    1 March 2020 07: 00
                    ... how do you know: "like hares"?! ,, You just - from the battlefield?! ,,
                    1. +2
                      1 March 2020 07: 18
                      Quote: tamilla
                      ... how do you know: "like hares" ?!

                      Tatyana, you, as I understand it, recently on this site?
                      In order to avoid misunderstandings, I modestly advise. Here it is customary to contact YOU, even if you really do not like your opponent and fundamentally disagree with him.
            4. -4
              28 February 2020 16: 30
              100% effect, it is not for you to pour "cast iron" at the peak, damaging tires ...
              it is yes. Here, too, I think, "cast iron" will not fill such a number of Turkish soldiers. You can't get it, but the Turks claim that the Syrians did.
              Maybe the Turks are thrashing their videos like that?
          4. +3
            28 February 2020 14: 18
            Quote: Trevis
            Let's see what the Syrians say

            More important is what Russia will say.
            1. +6
              28 February 2020 19: 34
              Russia will not fight Turkey, too invested in it.
              1. +1
                28 February 2020 19: 57
                Quote: Chaldon48
                Russia will not fight Turkey, too invested in it.

                As invested, it will give it all. In any case, Turkey will lose much more.
          5. +4
            28 February 2020 14: 28
            In the first frame, the tank and the infantry fighting vehicle miss the movement. All other scenes hit the stationary target. The conclusion suggests itself-movement is life. And how the Syrians can answer, yes without our help.
          6. +6
            28 February 2020 16: 04
            that's what a good impact drone means, do not drive it
          7. -8
            28 February 2020 16: 22
            Are you sure that the shots beat the Syrians, not the Turkoman?
            The Turks were yelling about the huge losses, the Syrians are still silent.
            So maybe the Turks put their own?
            1. +4
              28 February 2020 19: 09
              In the Telegram channel Rybar there is a photo of the corpses in the APC, judging by the ammunition, this is the case.
              1. -2
                28 February 2020 21: 28
                there is a photo of the corpses in the APC, judging by the ammunition, this is the case.
                Erdogan has long threatened to start military operations against Assad and set a deadline until the end of February. He needed pretext: for example, the murder of Turkish soldiers.
                Interestingly, history already knows such examples: this Operation "Canned", which served as a pretext for the German attack on Poland.
                There is something similar here.
                Interestingly, the Syrians circumvented Turkish posts, acted extremely correctly.
                So, the option that the Turks themselves soaked their own is quite realistic. It is possible that Erdogan himself is not even aware of it, as always they can use it in the dark.
                1. +1
                  29 February 2020 06: 37
                  Rave. Apart from these 30, about 20 Turks have been killed in various episodes since the beginning of February.
          8. -1
            28 February 2020 19: 16
            As I understand it, they have not heard about air defense.
          9. -3
            29 February 2020 06: 39
            One thing is clear from this video: Turkish drone drones smear even on motionless targets.
            1. +1
              1 March 2020 10: 37
              OmskGazMyas! Legend! I even have such a T-shirt, I bought it in 2000. at the Turquoise Katun festival, Chemal.
          10. 0
            1 March 2020 02: 13
            they are without us
            no one can do anything
        2. +10
          28 February 2020 13: 32
          According to the video, you can only believe in a few destroyed tanks and guns. So far, there is a game on the nerves of the Sultan, he also Libya Haftar pours gifts wink
          1. +3
            29 February 2020 13: 08
            By the way, yes, now Erdogan can be strained through Libya, the offensive of Haftar. Two conflicts may not pull. And, as an option, the sharp activation of the Kurds. It will rush to Moscow on an emergency flight.
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        1. +2
          28 February 2020 13: 33
          So far, the rhetoric of Russian officials is encouraging, we must wait for the end of the Turkish cry at NATO headquarters.
          1. +4
            28 February 2020 14: 48
            Quote: Tzar
            we must wait for the end of the Turkish cry at NATO headquarters.

            IMHO will not end with anything, they will express concern, condemn Russia, call for an end to the operation of the SAA in Idlib.
          2. +9
            28 February 2020 15: 23
            we must wait for the end of the Turkish cry at NATO headquarters.
            And so it is clear what. They will say not Erdogash's crying, wipe his nose, pat him on the head and with the words "morally we are with you" they will send him to slaughter.
            NATO was not created in order to die for the "Turk". But the "Turk" was admitted to NATO precisely so that he would die for NATO.
            There, Saakashvili also thought that NATO would help. As a result, I had to bite a tie.
            1. +3
              28 February 2020 18: 10
              Quote: flicker
              There, Saakashvili also thought that NATO would help. As a result, I had to bite a tie.

              For this phrase, I am here for the second time with "minuses" like a hedgehog. I understand that many people disagree? And what is not true - no one explains ... request
              1. +2
                28 February 2020 18: 38
                And what's the lie - no one explains ...
                There are some here (I call them "hurray - alarmists") who are happy that something is not working out in Russia. And if something turns out (they forced Georgia to peace), then it jars them. So they are minus.
                1. +1
                  29 February 2020 07: 25
                  Quote: flicker
                  And if something happens (they forced Georgia to peace), then it disturbs them. So they are minus.

                  Yes, not in the "minuses" matter as such - I do not care about them. I just think so - I don't agree - say so. That's what communication, and not catching "likes-dislikes". And how many times have I noticed - 3, 5, 10 of my comments on some news and on each, regardless of the "pluses", one neat "minus". Silently. And not just me. Do they get high, is it stupid to go through all the comments and put a "minus" for each?

                  It looks like one superintendent was telling me. Lives in a 12-story building, put a new elevator. If 2-3 people from different floors enter the cabin at the same time, each presses a button and the elevator stops in sequence on these floors.
                  Last summer, a family of some Central Asians drove into their porch, they have three or four children from 3 to 7. They ride the elevator all day, pressing all the buttons at once. Well, the elevator also stops on each floor. Up down. Until someone catches them and drives them out of the elevator.

                  So here the "Central Asians" - they saw the buttons and put pressure on all the "cons" at once, without reading. "
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      3. +13
        28 February 2020 13: 43
        Didn't our Aerospace Forces declare Idlib "no flight zone"?
        Don't our SU-35s "drive away" Turkish F-16s from the Syrian border?
        1. ABM
          +2
          28 February 2020 14: 54
          Self-propelled guns shoot, drones adjust
        2. sen
          +2
          29 February 2020 06: 54
          And the Turks have shock drones.
      4. 0
        28 February 2020 14: 43
        war, so war, without the victims of war does not happen, any Erdogan should know.
    2. +1
      28 February 2020 13: 11
      We will wait for confirmations from other sources.
      1. +2
        28 February 2020 13: 20
        Yes the video has these beats.
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        2. +4
          28 February 2020 13: 47
          I looked.
          Where not even tens, but a dozen of something?
          In particular, hits on small groups of moving groups of someone are shown.
          A couple of attacks on artillery mounts.
          Maybe something is not noticed.
          So far I have not seen evidence of a serious blow.
        3. -1
          28 February 2020 15: 54
          Yes the video has these beats.
          Just understand that it is difficult for the Syrians or Turks.
          Who knows, there is "friendly fire".
          The Turks first soaked, they thought that the Syrians, then they realized that their own.
          The number of corpses such that talking about the mistake was dumb, the Turks will not understand.
          It is much more profitable to blame Russia for everything.
          Indeed, it is not clear where they were soaked. Where we beat, there were no Turks. There were no Turks (!!!), but Turkish corpses appeared.
          It would be good to clarify this issue. It may well be that their Turks soaked. Maybe jeez es failed.
      2. 0
        28 February 2020 13: 22
        something is too much ... And about the "Shell" - doubt. Is that the "Shell" was on the next MOT ..
        1. +10
          28 February 2020 13: 34
          Rudel’s business lives and thrives
    3. +24
      28 February 2020 13: 14
      "Three tape recorders, three foreign movie cameras, three domestic cigarette cases, a jacket ... suede ... Three. Jackets."
      Lied to the public. If they really fought like that, they would have long ago thrown off Syrian troops from Idlib.
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    4. +9
      28 February 2020 13: 14
      The whole world froze. Interestingly, maybe the Greek elder seer spoke about this many years ago. Be that as it may, we are on the verge of a grand schucher. It’s just not clear what to cook - popcorn and cola or salt and matches?
      1. +31
        28 February 2020 13: 16
        It’s just not clear what to cook - popcorn and cola or salt and matches?

        get a military ID, passport and wait for the military enlistment office signal. Salt and matches will be given out.

        1. +3
          28 February 2020 13: 32
          The military registration and enlistment office requested data on employees under 27 years of age. The Duma will not concern you.
          1. -1
            28 February 2020 13: 42
            The federal law "On mobilization preparation and mobilization in the Russian Federation" explains everything, who is what and how.

          2. +15
            28 February 2020 13: 57
            Yes, you’re right, but even though I’m over 27 and a white ticket, when the trouble comes to the house, sitting in the toilet somehow is not masculine and not Russian.
            1. +2
              28 February 2020 13: 59
              There are no obstacles to patriots, privately, on their own ...
              1. +6
                28 February 2020 14: 49
                Note that you answered my words what I'm not talking about patriotism, if that.
            2. +3
              28 February 2020 16: 10
              Yes, you’re right, but even though I’m over 27 and a white ticket, but when trouble comes into the house sitting in the toilet is somehow not masculine and not Russian.

              Are you a Syrian or something, since you have a house - Syria?
              1. +2
                28 February 2020 17: 15
                and where does Syria?))) can you read? We saw the last phrase, did not comprehend how it all began and write garbage. Bravo! Give you a cookie?)
                1. 0
                  28 February 2020 17: 31
                  Dozens of tanks were destroyed, Buk air defense systems: the General Staff of the Turkish Armed Forces announced a strike on the SAA in Idlib

                  The whole world froze. Interestingly, maybe the Greek elder seer spoke about this many years ago. Be that as it may, we are on the verge of a grand schucher. It’s just not clear what to cook - popcorn and cola or salt and matches?

                  get a military ID, passport and wait for the military enlistment office signal. Salt and matches will be given out.

                  The military registration and enlistment office requested data on employees under 27 years of age. The Duma will not concern you.

                  The federal law "On mobilization preparation and mobilization in the Russian Federation" explains everything, who is what and how

                  Yes, you’re right, but even though I’m over 27 and a white ticket, when the trouble comes to the house, sitting in the toilet somehow is not masculine and not Russian.


                  and where does Syria?))) can you read? We saw the last phrase, did not comprehend how it all began and write garbage. Bravo! Give you a cookie?)


                  1. +1
                    28 February 2020 17: 56
                    And?) Why all this copy-paste, if you just showed that you don’t know how to read?) Okay, I’ll explain for the disabled person.
                    1. "Popcorn and cola or salt and matches?" The question was what other readers think. What to prepare for. The answer was to prepare a military ID and passport, if anything is called up before the age of 27.
                    2. "Although I'm not 27 and a white ticket, but IF (I will highlight for you because you are blind along the way) trouble COMES to the house, then ... "meant my position if something serious starts.
                    So. Has trouble come to Russia? No. In the military registration and enlistment offices began the call for storekeepers? No. And then your inappropriate (to put it mildly) question about my citizenship? Words from one movie come up: "Uncle, are you ... cancer?"
                    1. 0
                      28 February 2020 18: 11
                      2. "Although I am not 27 and a white ticket, but IF (I will allocate for you because you are blind along the way) trouble COMES to the house, then ..." meant my position if something serious starts.

                      The topic of Syria, you wrote about Syria.
                      So. Has trouble come to Russia? No. In the military registration and enlistment offices began the call for storekeepers? No. And then your inappropriate (to put it mildly) question about my citizenship? Words from one movie come up: "Uncle, are you ... cancer?"

                      Bipolar ...
                      1. -1
                        28 February 2020 18: 13
                        Hmm. Hard case. Even after clarification, you did not understand anything. I did not expect to meet stupidity here. Well, it's stupid to be offended by idiots.
                        1. -2
                          28 February 2020 18: 36
                          Hmm. Hard case. Even after clarification, you did not understand anything. I did not expect to meet stupidity here. Well, it's stupid to be offended by idiots.

                          I understood what you clarified. But just prevented you from writing originally so?
                          From the first post to which I answered you, it is only clear that your home is Syria. After all, there you do not chew what you mean.
                          Sorry, but I didn’t participate in the battle of psychics, so I can’t squeeze the ball and find out what’s in your head.

                          Execution cannot be pardoned.
                          The same energy.
          3. 0
            28 February 2020 16: 50
            The military registration and enlistment office requested data on employees under 27 years of age.


            This is for military service, and men up to 50 years old are subject to mobilization in Russia.
      2. +19
        28 February 2020 13: 23
        Yes, the bluffs of the Turks are clear. RF is much more important to him than Idlib. A good mine with a bad game. All the fuss to feel how far he can go and how much he can snatch. Well, and that they will yield to him. It is a pity for ordinary soldiers - they are only chips in a foreign war. And our allies are even stronger.
        Turkey now has such economic problems that it just won’t pull so many conflicts and the tourist season is just around the corner. So I think little by little everything will come to naught. Loud statements are for domestic consumption from the same opera and the ban on YouTube for the Turkish public. You can tighten the nuts with a local noise.
        Well, the Russian Federation needs to keep the barrel ready - Erdogan impulsive can play a fool if donkey urine hits his head ..
        1. -8
          28 February 2020 13: 35
          What are these economic problems in Turkey?
          1. +6
            28 February 2020 14: 50
            The collapse of the lira, the failure of the tourist season, problems with exports to Russia.
    5. -39
      28 February 2020 13: 14
      If this is true, Assad will not stay long ...
      1. +4
        28 February 2020 13: 25
        there is some truth about the blows, there were many
        1. +4
          28 February 2020 13: 33
          I think that there were many blows and the consequences were serious.
          1. +3
            28 February 2020 13: 36
            Turks talk about 200 strokes, the consequences will be recognized later, but their Turks will increase by 3 so as not to lose face
            1. -2
              28 February 2020 16: 12
              Turks talk about 200 strokes, the consequences will be recognized later, but their Turks will increase by 3 so as not to lose face

              And why in three, and not four or ten times? Do you have information that others don’t have?
              I'll take the number too. laughing
              1. -2
                28 February 2020 16: 13
                three times just right, they usually lie like that, in the news the Turks have had 5 destroyed tanks every day for 30 days
                1. -3
                  28 February 2020 16: 19
                  three times just right, they usually lie like that, in the news the Turks have had 5 destroyed tanks every day for 30 days

                  Really? I didn’t notice.
                  I will be more attentive! wink
                  1. -1
                    28 February 2020 16: 21
                    it’s not worth it)))) why do you need to fake your head with fakes
                    1. -3
                      28 February 2020 16: 22
                      it’s not worth it)))) why do you need to fake your head with fakes

                      drinks
                      1. -1
                        28 February 2020 17: 03
                        And good health to you
                        1. -1
                          28 February 2020 17: 12
                          And good health to you

                          Thanks! Good health to you too!
      2. +19
        28 February 2020 13: 31
        At least since 2015, a similar forecast has been written and is being written, and not only you, even the Nobel laureate American President Obama the Peacemaker prophesied that a little bit more and that's it, Assad will not have long left. True, I don't know where this Obama is now, but where Assad I know, he is still fighting terrorists in his country.
      3. +1
        28 February 2020 18: 06
        Quote: Dave36
        If this is true, Assad will not stay long ...


        somewhere I heard it ... what Like even under Obama this was spoken ... Assad - is, Obama - not
    6. +8
      28 February 2020 13: 15
      Dozens of tanks were destroyed, Buk air defense systems: the General Staff of the Turkish Armed Forces announced a strike on the SAA in Idlib


      Very similar to the information war ...
      1. +7
        28 February 2020 13: 36
        Sobolev had a similar passage: “And how many destroyers do you think are there?

        - Three, - Piychik answered and thought: “What do I feel sorry for?” “Vitya, hello! hi
        1. +5
          28 February 2020 13: 52
          Greetings! hi

          So we do not mind, but how much more will be interesting ahead ...
          1. +4
            28 February 2020 14: 14
            I'm afraid it would not be too interesting
            1. +2
              28 February 2020 14: 15
              So we all understand that the Sultan can fly off the coils ...
    7. +3
      28 February 2020 13: 15
      We live in "funny times", a potential war with Turkey, which can easily turn into World War III, the coronavirus pandemic (within 3-3 months it will cover the whole world, because the rich of this world are already scrolling to their islands so) ... somehow I want to live, or rather, so that our children live in peace and without epidemics
      1. +4
        28 February 2020 13: 26
        Somehow worrying about the lack of information about the coronavirus from India. Given their mentality and attitude to life and death, they often do not want to bury or burn the bodies of the dead, sending them along the Ganges river or leaving everything ashore, as well as caste and the fact that they are running worse than the Chinese around the world. India can become such a source ..... few will not seem to anyone.
        1. +3
          28 February 2020 13: 36
          Do not worry, the last time there was hysteria for bird flu 10 years ago
          1. +5
            28 February 2020 14: 04
            Quote: Kronos
            Do not worry, the last time there was hysteria for bird flu 10 years ago

            About 20 years ago they scared AIDS and said that by 2010 we would all die.
      2. 0
        28 February 2020 13: 40
        Quote: Bad
        coronavirus pandemic (within 3-4 months I think it will cover the whole world, for the rich of this world are already heading for their islands for a reason)

        Let's hope that it gets warmer soon and people won't catch a cold.
        1. +1
          28 February 2020 18: 12
          Quote: figvam
          Quote: Bad
          coronavirus pandemic (within 3-4 months I think it will cover the whole world, for the rich of this world are already heading for their islands for a reason)

          Let's hope that it gets warmer soon and people won't catch a cold.


          ticks are already rubbing their paws - they woke up ahead of time ... and the laboratories around the perimeter of Russia are doing something. If a person were good, there would be a virus, not one so different
      3. 0
        28 February 2020 15: 09
        Quote: Bad
        coronavirus pandemic (within 3-4 months I think it will cover the whole world, for the rich of this world are already wandering to their islands for a reason

        Dear, all you need to know for coronavirus is that it has a mortality rate of 4%, a death rate from influenza, which we have every year an epidemic - a mortality rate of about 6-7% ... You absolutely do not need to know more ...
        1. +1
          28 February 2020 15: 27
          Everything is correct. Oil has fallen in price, naglosaksa buy it at a frantic pace. And this is only one factor. Many who make money at these events. The very same China, buying up the cheaper shares of their backbone enterprises - makes quiet nationalization.
        2. 0
          28 February 2020 16: 29
          Eugene, hi You heard a propaganda variation of statistics about coronovirus, mortality there is higher. Count it yourself, not only as propagandists have an attitude of the infected towards the dead, but an attitude of the survivors towards the dead. If it is not more dangerous than flu, then why the hell are you boiling? There you still need to take into account the duration, course of the disease and the damage done to the economy, and this is far from the flu ...
          1. 0
            28 February 2020 16: 50
            Quote: Demon_is_ada
            Eugene, you heard a propaganda variation of statistics about coronovirus,

            There are statistics, and no propaganda.
            Quote: Demon_is_ada
            Count it yourself, not only as propagandists have an attitude of the infected towards the dead, but an attitude of the survivors towards the dead. If it is not more dangerous than flu, then why the hell are you boiling?

            And the hell was swine flu, which turned out to be less dangerous in the end. than some strains of "familiar" to us flu, especially forms with complications in the lungs? In order to cut down the greens on vaccines / medicines on the wave of the rising hysteria. And as it turned out later, it was all zilch and sheer swindle. Then some officials from the World Health Organization sat down.
            And now you are boiling - also out of the most natural propaganda goals - to sow panic, drop some shares, raise others, etc.
            Quote: Demon_is_ada
            There you still need to take into account the duration, course of the disease and the damage done to the economy, and this is far from the flu ...

            It is necessary to take into account exclusively Chinese characteristics - a very warm and humid climate, a lot of all living creatures and a lot of people very densely in a limited area - this is just a paradise for diseases! In India, it’s the same thing, it’s just that nobody bothers with it here and everything passes quietly and without publicity. In China, if you launch blackpox or cholera, the effect will be the same as with coronavirus))))
            1. +2
              28 February 2020 17: 24
              Naturally, propaganda is on both sides, because business uses everything, good and bad. But there are problems with this virus. Take the flu, you catch the virus, snot and sneezing begin, for a maximum of 39 hours you actively walk and happily infect others, then the temperature rises XNUMX and you reluctant to run and work for something and you lie in bed at home while drinking hot tea with raspberries and lemon and after a week you are back at work and already with immunity, provided that you are relatively healthy. The crown is different, you go on without symptoms for a very long time infecting others, then the condition worsens sharply and you are already treated stationary and seriously, and the worst thing is that you will not have immunity, so there is a problem with creating a vaccine. Moreover, the virus is tenacious, very long active in secluded places, that is, it is preserved in the natural environment. And about the pig, Duc there is not you, but they tried to keep the meat production or are you a vegan? lol
              1. 0
                28 February 2020 17: 48
                Quote: Demon_is_ada
                Naturally, propaganda is on both sides, because business uses everything, good and bad.

                Namely, but, following modern trends, people are cheated in 90% of cases and reassured in 10%, so draw conclusions.
                Quote: Demon_is_ada
                But there are problems with this virus. Take the flu, you catch the virus, snot and sneezing begin, for a maximum of 39 hours you actively walk and happily infect others, then the temperature rises XNUMX and you reluctant to run and work for something and you lie in bed at home while drinking hot tea with raspberries and lemon and in a week you are back at work and already with immunity

                Not everything is so simple - different strains sometimes give very different manifestations, moreover, your immunity to an already "obsolete" strain, the next year will go to others, to which you will not have immunity.
                Quote: Demon_is_ada
                The crown is different, you go on without symptoms for a very long time infecting others, then the condition worsens sharply and you are already treated stationary and seriously, and the worst thing is that you will not have immunity,

                Firstly, there are a bunch of viruses that manifest in exactly the same way - read it, so nothing special, and secondly - where did you get the idea that there will be no immunity? And the problems with creating a vaccine are exactly the same as with any other virus.
                Quote: Demon_is_ada
                Moreover, the virus is tenacious, very long active in secluded places, that is, it is preserved in the natural environment.

                For an hour it is preserved in a natural environment ... Yes, it is a long time, but not beyond. Through AliExpress, do not get infected if you wish. And the natural sources of the virus are marine invertebrates, they are not found in our country and are not consumed alive ...
                Quote: Demon_is_ada
                And about the pig, Duc there is not you, but they tried to keep the meat production or are you a vegan?

                And where does the production of meat? The International Health Organization trumpeted to the whole world what a dangerous swine flu was and how to buy medicines and vaccines from it. PCR tests for that unfortunate strain were sent out to all hospitals. As a result, for 500 people hospitalized with influenza, 4-5 people were sick with swine. Later, laboratory tests showed that the so-called "swine flu" is much less dangerous for humans than "habitual" strains of influenza.

                And the only virus that you really should be afraid of is ebola, and this is yes, the mortality of some strains is up to 85%, that is, a complete anomaly, remains in the external environment FIVE DAYS! That, too, is a complete anomaly in terms of modern concepts. There is no vaccine, and medications also give it 100% of the result.
                Well, there’s another disease, it’s also very dangerous - the conspiracy theory is called, transmitted through the Internet and the RenTV channel, it affects the brain, but you can be treated for it by developing critical thinking in yourself ...
                1. 0
                  28 February 2020 18: 05
                  About pork - pigs have a mortality rate of 100%, a person can carry it if they are likely to get sick, there is a variant mutation that is very similar to DNA and no one knows what will happen. And the crown, here’s the site for you, at the time I published this comment, the mortality rate is 12% and all patients have inpatient, expensive treatment
                  https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6
                  the flu mutates every year and every time they create vaccines literally in a month, there on the graph the corona has jumps in growth of infected people on two lines - a sign of repeated illness, there is no immunity and after the same time there will be the same jump.
                  1. +1
                    28 February 2020 22: 36
                    Quote: Demon_is_ada
                    About pork - pigs have a mortality rate of 100%, a person can carry it if they are likely to get sick, there is a variant mutation that is very similar to DNA and no one knows what will happen.

                    There was already a mutation in swine flu - what do you think made people sick from? Only people it affects very little and proceeds in a relatively weak form, this has already been clinically proven.
                    Quote: Demon_is_ada
                    And the crown, here’s the site for you, at the time I published this comment, the mortality rate is 12% and all patients have inpatient, expensive treatment

                    Do you remember what the first flu epidemic was like? the fact that some people are re-infected is not evidence that there is no development of immunity, but the consequence of the fact that there are people who are basically not able to develop this immunity to certain types of virus, just like there are people who have 100% immunity to the notorious COVID-19, the same, incidentally, was the case in the case of flu - there is a percentage of people who catch the flu every year, regardless of vaccination, but there are people. who don’t get the flu at all, even without getting vaccinated. About expensive treatment - it’s expensive because it is not yet clear how to treat this virus, since it is corny, new, have not yet been studied. And yes - the jump in the number of cases is not necessarily connected with the lack of immunity - it could be the result of problems with quarantine measures - we hoped that we crushed the outbreak, weakened control, op-pa, it started again, as the carriers dispersed.

                    Py.Sy .: Over the past 20 years, we have been frightened by pandemics and universal extinction from: HIV, athepatic pneumonia, bird flu virus, swine flu virus, now from covid-19.
                    as a result, as a result of all outbreaks, a large number of sick and dead were recorded at the beginning. In the future, the epidemic declined. Because. that there was nothing seriously special in these diseases. If you want to be afraid - be afraid of Ebola - especially since samples of the most infectious strains are stored directly on the territory of Russia in special laboratories - so that you are more afraid))))
                    1. 0
                      28 February 2020 23: 18
                      The only thing I became afraid of with age, so it’s for loved ones hi But beware always and everywhere, even flu. Viruses change human DNA, and we have it far from ideal, and each time sitting in different places. Naturally, life is an adaptable thing and humanity will survive, there is no doubt about it, the question is, at what cost? And further
                      Quote: Albert1988
                      there is a percentage of people who catch the flu every year, regardless of vaccination, but there are people. who don’t get the flu at all, even without getting vaccinated

                      If everything around you is with snot, but you are not, then your body is absolutely tolerant to the virus and integrates it into its DNA without any problems. The absence of any symptoms of a reaction to the virus is what this is talking about, and not about good immunity. Alas, many are mistaken. The vaccine is the same sick, but less acute and in the absence of external viruses, quickly returns to normal.
                      the dog has already picked up doggies in Hong Kong, this is very bad ... I hope this is just a mistake ...
                      1. 0
                        28 February 2020 23: 37
                        Quote: Demon_is_ada
                        Viruses change human DNA, and we have it far from ideal, and each time sitting in different places.

                        First, the virus does NOT change DNA - they integrate into it in order to attract the replicative and translational apparatus of the cell for their own copying in the largest possible amount.
                        Quote: Demon_is_ada
                        Naturally, life is an adaptable thing and humanity will survive, there is no doubt about it, the question is, at what cost?

                        How it survived before, adjusted for very serious progress in medicine over the past 70-100 years, including in the field of methods and means of combating epidemics.
                        Quote: Demon_is_ada
                        If everything around you is with snot, but you are not, then your body is absolutely tolerant to the virus and integrates it into its DNA without any problems.

                        I will correct you again - the work of immunity against non-cellular life forms, that is, viruses, is somewhat different from that against pathogenic microorganisms, that is, bacteria and, sometimes, protozoa. And just suppressing the virus after it enters the cell is one of the forms of immunity in this case. The virus can not be let into the cell at all, if there are effective antibodies, by the way, they already work on HIV - there are 4 cases in which people have natural antibodies to this virus, they are now developing a vaccine. But the virus can be suppressed even after penetration into the cell, as you said, it will be the immunity of the cell itself, but the virus will be suppressed due to the RNA interference mechanism, or by the restriction apparatus before incorporation into the DNA. If the virus expresses one of its antigens on the cell surface, the T-killer lymphocyte specialized in this antigen is quickly found and burst by both cheeks.

                        Quote: Demon_is_ada
                        The vaccine is the same sick, but less acute and in the absence of external viruses, quickly returns to normal.

                        That's right, because the virus is suppressed by antibodies, and this is much less effective. than eating bacteria by macrophages. A T-killer will eat infected virus cells, only if the antigen is expressed on the surface. Covid-19 may not have this.

                        As for the sick dog - if the virus mutated so much that it was transmitted from the marine invertebrate to humans, it is not surprising that it can have the ability to infect many mammals in a limited (or very wide) way.
            2. 0
              1 March 2020 12: 03
              statistics)) well, if possible, voice the numbers of the number of recovered and dead. show these 4 percent, then do not confuse viral and bacterial infections, for viruses the colder, the longer it maintains integrity, but bacteria need warmth.
              1. 0
                2 March 2020 18: 46
                Quote: telobezumnoe
                statistics)) well, if possible, voice the numbers of the number of recovered and dead. show these 4 percent,

                The numbers change daily, at the moment, worldwide mortality from COVID-19 is 4%, the greatest danger of this viral pneumonia is for people older than 40 and further, the older, the more severe the disease flows, while children under 15 are almost not sick.
                Moreover, statistics are taken clearly with the absence of mild forms of the disease, which patients transferred successfully and were not quarantined and were not defined as COVID-19. You can search for exact numbers on the websites of healthcare organizations.
                Quote: telobezumnoe
                then do not confuse viral and bacterial infections; for viruses, the colder it is, the longer it maintains its integrity, while bacteria need warmth.

                I will disappoint you - bacteria at low temperatures can persist in the environment for up to 20000 years, the virus, if it is not stored in a special sterile container, lives up to 1-2 hours regardless of temperature. Moreover, when a virus enters from a cold environment, if the temperature is lower, in a human body with a temperature of 37 degrees (the internal normal temperature of the human body), the enzyme proteins necessary for incorporation into the host’s DNA are subjected to the most destructive effect - crossing through zero degrees, which dramatically reduces their activity and the likelihood of infection ... So it's not so simple as it seems in this area ...
    8. -7
      28 February 2020 13: 16
      Why does Syria not declare war on Turkey? Why is there no general mobilization? I hope we won’t fight for them. Damn, the Bolsheviks after Constantinople could not stir up the revolution ...
      1. ABM
        +5
        28 February 2020 13: 22
        the Alawites are all called up, and you won’t make the rest of Assad against your Sunnis
        1. +2
          28 February 2020 13: 24
          If they want, they will call ...
          1. +5
            28 February 2020 13: 37
            As is well known from history, forcibly called up easily run to the side of the enemy or surrender
      2. +4
        28 February 2020 13: 24
        Why is there no general mobilization?

        If you are talking about Syria, then during the war there they mobilized who they could. The country is small. The mobilization resource is not great.
        1. -2
          28 February 2020 13: 27
          I am sure that it is far from there before the general mobilization. And yet why there is no declaration of war. The enemy is obvious - these are not fanatics - the official state - is shown on TV. It seems like the country is under threat.
          1. +5
            28 February 2020 13: 53
            I am sure that it is far from there before the general mobilization.

            You apparently do not quite know the local alignment of forces.
            Assad’s main pillar is the Alawites. Which in Syria is just over 10%. And the vast majority in Syria are Sunni Muslims. There are 74% of them in the country. Catch the difference? Here are just the same the main suppliers of barmalei sunni. Therefore, there is nothing special to mobilize.
            1. +2
              28 February 2020 14: 24
              So with these wonderful percentages the country will be shared by other uncles ...
    9. -1
      28 February 2020 13: 16
      Even if, according to the custom of each side, the losses of the enemy are exaggerated, Assad’s army must have suffered seriously. Worse if it comes to losses of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation. These are already our people.
      And the "Syrian meat grinder" is not really ours.
      1. +2
        28 February 2020 13: 26
        There are losses, but Edik must not lose face in front of the Turks, so every day there will be such news
      2. -7
        28 February 2020 13: 46
        The Armed Forces of the Russian Federation are already losing. Bye technique. I hope both sides calm down today.
      3. +2
        29 February 2020 07: 08
        Our Turks always beat.
    10. +8
      28 February 2020 13: 17
      Of course I hope bragging, it hurts too serious numbers.
      1. -4
        28 February 2020 13: 28
        The front is broken. This and our sources have recognized and confirmed the SAA Army is retreating. Our Air Force inflicts continuous strikes on militants. Turks do not climb forward yet. This is as if their response to the convoy attack and the death of 30 V / SL
    11. -1
      28 February 2020 13: 19
      Here is a situation! Losses are not frail, according to sources.

      1. +1
        28 February 2020 13: 24
        Is it all to be reviewed and rechecked? I will wait for an official response from our side.
        It would be better to see a map by summary.
    12. +8
      28 February 2020 13: 20
      Another week and the Syrian army will already have a negative number of tanks and aircraft. According to the Turkish Minister of Defense)).
    13. -24
      28 February 2020 13: 20
      If we assume that there will be a war with Turkey, it turns out that NATO will hammer us, a good situation for the next weakening of Russia.
      1. +18
        28 February 2020 13: 35
        If you will be pecking - hold on with all your might fellow
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      2. 0
        28 February 2020 14: 08
        Quote: Pessimist22
        If we assume that there will be a war with Turkey, it turns out that NATO will hammer us, a good situation for the next weakening of Russia.

        Ukrainians then climb for sure ... one thing pleases that all these are our fantasies
        1. -3
          28 February 2020 14: 21
          Well, we will see how events will develop.
    14. +5
      28 February 2020 13: 21
      That the Turkish General Staff, that Bandera will never admit their failures, but other people's losses will increase hundreds of times. They are after all the sidekick in the war against Syria, and Russia too. Although the Turks do it in a veiled way, but there are no fools - everyone understands everything. wassat
    15. -5
      28 February 2020 13: 28
      ZRPK "Shell", air defense system "Buk", as well as more than two dozen tanks, 23 self-propelled guns, artillery mounts. It is also reported that the Syrian army as a result of the strike lost 5 helicopters.
      Fig fig, a serious batch ..
      This is how many personnel were killed there ..
    16. +3
      28 February 2020 13: 34
      Okay, tanks, but Buki and Panzeri, where are they and how did they get it ????
    17. -25
      28 February 2020 13: 41
      "True, at the same time, the same Hulusi Akar does not say that for some reason there were jihadists in the places of deployment of Turkish soldiers and officers, including terrorists from the Hayat Tahrir al-Sham group - the" repainted "Jabhat al-Nusra. , which is recognized as terrorist by the UN and banned in the Russian Federation and dozens of countries around the world. "

      Auto RU -
      He, Hulusi Akar, said:
      - There were no Turkish soldiers around them ("Hayat Tahrir al-Sham" - "repainted" "Dzhebhat al-Nusra").
      - Russia had info on the localization of Turkish soldiers.
      - After the first fire, once again, information was given about the location of the soldiers, despite the fact that the bombardment continued, even ambulances that wanted to pick up the wounded were fired upon.

      Now about what is being done in Turkey:
      - Stupid declarations that Russia has nothing to do with this matter are not welcome.
      - The people do not believe the numbers of the victims of the soldiers - they think that they died more. We also do not believe that our answer was worthy.
      - All parties in Turkey, all Turkish people, to my surprise, will unanimously support Erdogan if he decides to talk "like a man" with Russia. "Dear friend Putin" is unlikely to be able to publicly say again.
      - Yes, it is better that the Russians do not cost in Turkey, nothing will happen to them, just if they do not come, the hotel prices will be reduced for local residents.
      “The Syrians are finally going to Europe.” On the dance floors of Europe will be colorful, good after all!

      My opinion is that Bismarck was right when he said: "Treaties with Russia are not worth the paper on which they are written."
      1. ABM
        +3
        28 February 2020 14: 01
        one SCAD missile in a Turkish resort will rip off your entire tourist season ... well, or a Kurd with MANPADS that shot down an airplane from Europe
      2. +7
        28 February 2020 14: 01
        You have clearly demonstrated all your crazy not obsolete complexes. Would not regret it soon ...
      3. +6
        28 February 2020 14: 06
        So you have Bismarck only right in this? And the fact that you should not fight with Russia is wrong? Well, try it.
      4. +7
        28 February 2020 15: 06
        if they don’t arrive, hotel prices will be reduced for local residents.


        Wow laughing This is the "warlike spirit" !!! So you think about trade there, or are you digging trenches for all the die-hard Turkish people?
        Erdogan did not forget that he is not too comfortable with the Americans with the Jews?
        After all, Putin will be able to give it to them with giblets. He has something to offer both Jews and Americans. Better not anger him - this is the first Russian with the mind and endurance of a Jew. Sometimes I even doubt his last name. wink
      5. +5
        28 February 2020 15: 38
        My opinion is that Bismarck was right when he said: "Treaties with Russia are not worth the paper on which they are written."
        O descendant of the fearless Bushibuzuk, who generously fertilized the land of Europe and Asia with their bodies, in many wars with Russia, - if you undertook to quote Bismarck, then why not quote him completely? It is not good to take one phrase out of context. stop
        And then the meaning, if you think about it, it turns out the exact opposite! wink
      6. 0
        29 February 2020 23: 13
        Now about what is being done in Turkey:
        - Stupid declarations that Russia has nothing to do with this matter are not welcome.

        Turkey's problem is that Kemal Ataturk is not there today. If he were, then Erdogan, and Akar, and Fidan would now be headless in the truest sense of the word.
        The Turkish people simply do not understand that the death of the Turkish military is a special operation, with the relatives of the one that the Germans carried out in 1939, Operation Canned Food, which gave Germany a reason to attack Poland.
        The death of the Turkish military was very necessary for those who long for a war between Russia and Turkey.
        The death of the Turkish military occurred after Erdogan’s speech (dated February 27) that the situation in Idlib was developing successfully and that negotiations were ongoing with Russia. The latter became a detonator.
        Because negotiations between Turkey and Russia are not necessary to the geldings, they need a war between Russia and Turkey. Surrounded by Erdogan, a huge number of those who work for the CIA, as well as Erdogan, were brought to power by forces working for the CIA, Gulen should be included among them, and now this is Fidan.
        Now, about some (I will not list everything) facts that indicate that this (the death of the Turkish military) is a special operation.
        The Turkish military died before and in a much larger amount than officially announced.
        Those. managed to hide this info.
        And this time, the news about the death of the Turks was covered with SPECIAL SPACE, once again: WITH SPECIAL SCOPE, extremely quickly it was practically the number 1 news in the world !!!!!
        Question: from what fright?
        1. -1
          29 February 2020 23: 36
          Read more.
          Turkish society began to boil, the leadership made a variety of speeches, often darted about: trying to get NATO support, because the question was about the war with Russia.
          Once Erdogan said that Turkey will bend its line (read: return "its" territories) and at the same time will not fulfill the wishes of the United States and Russia. Which meant: we will not leave Syria (as Russia wants it) and at the same time we will not go to war with Russia (as the US wants it).
          But, there are forces from outside and inside Turkey who really want to stumble on Turkey and Russia (remember who directed the Turkish fighters NS-24).
          When it became clear that Erdogan was trying to avoid a war with Russia and a special operation was carried out, such as Operation Canned Food.
          The Russian military asked the Turkish about the Turkish military in a particular area and received an answer (although those who answered knew perfectly well what was) that they were not there. After that, Russia bombed.
          An unprecedented media wave swept further, covering the whole world.
          After which the war between Turkey and Russia became almost inevitable.
          Those who planned this special operation were pleased.
          That's just the leadership of Russia showed restraint and wisdom. True, the situation remains tense.
          1. 0
            1 March 2020 04: 59
            Quote: flicker
            Russian leadership showed restraint and wisdom

            Well today I earned a pie
          2. 0
            4 March 2020 11: 05
            Not demagoguery is interesting, but the result: the Russian Armed Forces are not able to withstand external aggression without the use of nuclear weapons. The Turks completely crushed us in 3 days. This should be discussed, but who showed what endurance.
            1. 0
              4 March 2020 11: 26
              The Turks completely crushed us in 3 days.
              "utterly" "thrashed" and even "in 3 days".
              Judging by the semantics, you are from the "Israeli patriots". bully
    18. -18
      28 February 2020 13: 43
      Several hundred million dollars from the budget of the Russian Federation flushed into the toilet. Does anyone have intelligible versions of how much more you have to pay and, most importantly, for what?
      1. +3
        28 February 2020 15: 07
        the dash failed .. got out of the squad.
      2. 0
        1 March 2020 00: 04
        You are just like in that joke: ... and Moishe is here, and Sonya is here. And who then remained in the shop?
    19. +5
      28 February 2020 13: 49
      Quote: Nastia Makarova
      Turks talk about 200 strokes, the consequences will be recognized later, but their Turks will increase by 3 so as not to lose face

      Grandfather at the reception of a sex therapist:
      - Doctor, more than 3 times a week with my wife does not work.
      - Grandfather, how old are you?
      - 85.
      - Grandfather, well this is excellent!
      - Yes? And my neighbor says that with his wife every day, and he is 95!
      - Well, so you say!
    20. -5
      28 February 2020 13: 51
      You are lying to the gentlemen, the administration of VO is quoting. He just said: that there was no one around from the opposition forces. Did he lie to Hulusi Akar?
      But why would you lie? with this pearl? he said and you write "does not speak"
      True, at the same time, the same Hulusi Akar does not say that for some reason there were jihadists in the places of deployment of Turkish soldiers and officers, including terrorists from the Hayat Tahrir al-Sham group - the "repainted" Jebhat al-Nusra, which is recognized as terrorist by the UN and banned in the Russian Federation and dozens of countries around the world.
      THIS IS THE ORIGINAL
      1. ABM
        0
        28 February 2020 14: 03
        Who here in Turkish understands? translate
        1. -4
          28 February 2020 14: 14
          From 23 seconds to 31 seconds "Ayrica bu saldırllar sırasında birliklerimin etrafında, hic bir silahlı qrubunda bulunmadıgınıda, burada belirtmek isterim" my connections are stated and not ours! Birliklerim mine into links! birliklerimiz our armed units. Under the word birlik, an armed unit starting from a group, squad, platoon, company, etc.
      2. -1
        1 March 2020 00: 33
        He just said: that there was no one around from the opposition forces. Did he lie to Hulusi Akar?
        But why should you lie?
        I advise you to read about Operation Canned. Here's something similar. The death of the Turkish military is a special operation. The purpose of which: the war between Turkey and Russia.
        Erdogan tried to avoid this war and it was necessary to push him. How ? Ensure the death of the Turkish military with an UNEXPECTED media coverage and a heartbreaking picture. Which was carried out on February 27. Suddenly, hiding the media so much, they began to report with unprecedented revelation about the dead and wounded, about ambulances, etc. The picture was impressive. Turkish society began to boil, politics began to make menacing speeches.
        As a result: provocateurs achieved their goal.
        Who is the provocateur?
        Those who sent the military to the point and informed the Russian military that there were no Turkish military there.
        Russia was bombed.
        Erdogan should find out which mole said that the Turks are not there.
        Erdoganv need to find out who triggered the media wave.
        Find out and punish exponentially. For these provocateurs tried to foment a war between Russia and Turkey.
        And in the end, get off the neo-Ottoman rails, as the Americans put Turkey on them, so that Turkey would start to fight and eventually die.
    21. +1
      28 February 2020 13: 52
      A statement by the General Staff of the Turkish Armed Forces states that a massive attack on Syrian positions led to the destruction of the Pantsir air defense system, the Buk air defense system, as well as more than two dozen tanks, 23 self-propelled guns, and artillery installations. It is also reported that the Syrian army as a result of the strike lost 5 helicopters.
      The General Staff of Turkey seems to not only love the circus, but also moonlight as clowns.
    22. +1
      28 February 2020 13: 54
      Quote: Stalllker
      Okay, tanks, but Buki and Panzeri, where are they and how did they get it ????

      It is possible that the MLRS
      1. ABM
        0
        28 February 2020 14: 38
        single shots. This is artillery self-propelled guns 155 mm - no one else
    23. -7
      28 February 2020 14: 03
      Quote: Skubudu
      Didn't our Aerospace Forces declare Idlib "no flight zone"?
      Don't our SU-35s "drive away" Turkish F-16s from the Syrian border?

      At 35 x there was a break. Do not drive away.
    24. +3
      28 February 2020 14: 08
      Rates are rising. Our attempt to lower everything on the brakes will have a bad effect on face conservation. They drive us into zugzwang, it turns out ...
    25. +3
      28 February 2020 14: 11
      The Turks provoke an air strike on a convoy or on a full point (which they don’t touch now and which are in the rear) and then it raced .....
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    27. +2
      28 February 2020 14: 30
      I counted 2 damaged 1S6 Gvozdika self-propelled guns in the video. They were beaten from drones with missiles with a cumulative warhead. It is a pity that the Syrians did not have shells in the area.
    28. -2
      28 February 2020 14: 38
      Quote: YOUR
      Somehow worrying about the lack of information about the coronavirus from India. Given their mentality and attitude to life and death, they often do not want to bury or burn the bodies of the dead, sending them along the Ganges river or leaving everything ashore, as well as caste and the fact that they are running worse than the Chinese around the world. India can become such a source ..... few will not seem to anyone.


      Hindus, on the contrary, burn bodies .. another thing, expensive firewood, and often the body does not burn completely and it is thrown into the river.
    29. +1
      28 February 2020 14: 40
      Quote: ABM
      miss the first seconds of the video!

      Why, then, did Mekhvod fall out of the hatch in front if they didn’t hit?
    30. +1
      28 February 2020 14: 40
      Quote: Gritsa
      About 20 years ago they scared AIDS and said that by 2010 we would all die.


      We are not dead, but we are in the top ten in terms of the number of HIV-infected people. So all the time.
    31. +1
      28 February 2020 14: 50
      And we immediately believed everything, how the Irdogan turned into Shpak! Three suede jackets, three tape recorders, three movie cameras ....., well, that's all - everything that was acquired by overwork! Funny to read.
      1. -2
        28 February 2020 14: 56
        So there is evidence
    32. -4
      28 February 2020 14: 58
      If desired, the Turks will crush everyone there without exception.
    33. 0
      28 February 2020 15: 11
      A statement by the General Staff of the Turkish Armed Forces states that a massive attack on Syrian positions led to the destruction of the Pantsir air defense system, the Buk air defense system, as well as more than two dozen tanks, 23 self-propelled guns, and artillery installations. It is also reported that the Syrian army as a result of the strike lost 5 helicopters.


      it seems that soon it will come for us: "Let's raise Syria from its knees!"
      1. 0
        29 February 2020 12: 05
        The network already has the destruction of the Shell.
    34. +2
      28 February 2020 15: 39
      And Russia is silent, as always .. We look forward to when our fighters begin to shoot down our air defense ..?
      And in general, why do Turkish UAVs feel so at ease ..?
      1. -3
        28 February 2020 18: 33
        our air defense will not bring down our planes
    35. +2
      28 February 2020 15: 51
      I wonder what will happen to the Turkish Stream?
    36. +3
      28 February 2020 16: 01
      the Turks have strike drones, and the VKS doesn't
    37. +2
      28 February 2020 16: 07
      Turkish otvetochka.
      Bombed with the F16? If so, then ours there seem to be in control, don't they? Su-35, everything, "the sky is locked"?
    38. 0
      28 February 2020 16: 58
      Quote: Skubudu
      Everything is exactly like in a pharmacy, the ammunition looks like Jewish or American, the consumption of ammunition is 1 to hit 1 target, 100% effect, this is not "cast iron" for you to pour at the peak wink damaging the tires ...

      And what, there is accurate timing, and the expert opinion about the intactness in the installation? Do you want to see how many were cut there, and how many misses are shown? Squeal from the property of stupidity can, you know who. The one from which barbecue is made.
    39. 0
      28 February 2020 18: 33
      Look, Ukrainians just do destroy entire Russian divisions, and every month, the Turks for lack of brains decided to take an example from Ukraine hahahahah
    40. -1
      28 February 2020 19: 01
      Quote: Lek3338
      there were no other armed groups around my formations

      Strange, it turns out that the respected person of Turkey himself confessed to the aggression? Boldly, however ... Or maybe it was at the "observation post"? (where it seems like the Turks can be)

      Quote: Victor March 47
      Do you want to see how many were cut there, and how many misses are shown?

      The first miss was not cut, probably too lazy or for reliability
    41. 0
      28 February 2020 19: 48
      yes obser to the fullest, sad
    42. +6
      28 February 2020 21: 06
      Yes, the "partner" showed what's what. Our technicians nailed inside and out. Well, otvetku "partner" tourist flow, gas at a reduced price, anti-aircraft complexes. And we have bazaars about how "great" we are. If the Turkish "partners" are doing this to us, then I am afraid to even imagine what the Chinese "partners" will do to us. You can continue shouting "Urya!"
      1. +5
        28 February 2020 22: 14
        it will be difficult for Chinese partners to physically find enemy troops in the Far East)))))
    43. -1
      28 February 2020 21: 34
      Operation "CANNED."
      The pretext for Hitler's attack on Poland.
      The death of the Turkish military.
      An excuse for the Turkish attack on Syria.
      Is very similar.
    44. 0
      28 February 2020 22: 15
      The helicopter was shot down.
    45. 0
      28 February 2020 22: 31
      Spineless, it is also "pragmatic", the policy of the Kremlin diaspora allows itself to cultivate such partners for destruction, and what are there partners, friends like Erdo. Dear Leader, and strive to perpetuate himself in history. Only in what capacity will he be remembered, and whether he will be remembered.
    46. 0
      29 February 2020 12: 02
      The network already has the destruction of the Syrian Shell system.
    47. -1
      29 February 2020 12: 34
      Another 24 death stars, 18 skywalker hatches and 3 koloboks of unknown design escaped (according to Turkish intelligence) from a certain D. and a certain B.
      Are you serious, or what? the sultan’s elections will be soon ... he will now ask for help from Nat and relations will stamp victory packs.
    48. +4
      29 February 2020 12: 40
      If this is true, then I am interested in what the Russian army is ready for. The accuracy of the defeat is quite decent. So many years have passed, as we are in Syria, and ours are all shown by models from the store of a young technician. Where is the report for the implementation of the multi-billion dollar budget and the assessment of the effectiveness of investments, and where is the similar quality of target destruction?
    49. Ham
      +1
      29 February 2020 12: 56
      the destruction of the shell is already a ritual ritual in the same way as the t-90
    50. +1
      29 February 2020 13: 52
      Now the Syrians can flop over Turkish territory, and ours should react like this: Oh !!!! Forgive the Turks, we did not notice the Syrians ... But in general, it is a slap in the face of Putin .... Now we’ll observe whether Putin will substitute a second cheek or answer as a Russian man ????
      1. 0
        1 March 2020 07: 23
        ... He NEVER ANSWERED ZRAIL !!
    51. 0
      29 February 2020 14: 30
      If you believe this writing, the Syrian army is defeated. Then the question is - why did Putin call?
    52. 0
      29 February 2020 18: 51
      Three tape recorders! Three cigars! Leather coats! Same! Three! If everything is so great, why are you running around like you’ve been bitten in the back!!!??? Either to NATO, then to Europe, then to Putin! This hysterical Erdogan only maims her own people! I'm not even talking about the damage to the Turkish economy in the future.....
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    54. +1
      29 February 2020 21: 56
      Another great Turkish lie. !!
    55. Erg
      0
      29 February 2020 22: 22
      As I understand it, the Turks entered the war with Syria. At the same time, openly admitting that terrorism in the territory of the Republic of Syria is fully supported by them...
    56. 0
      1 March 2020 00: 07
      Quote: Camille
      The network already has the destruction of the Shell.


      And unlike the one destroyed by the Israeli Air Force, this one obviously cannot be said to have been on the march and blah blah. It worked, pay attention to the antenna - it rotates. Apparently there are stupidly no properly prepared crews, which means there was no point in bringing them into position at all. If our calculations, at the very least, reflect the UAV strikes, this one was shot like in a shooting gallery.
      1. 0
        4 March 2020 11: 01
        work in conjunction with electronic warfare equipment. They wet like in a shooting gallery. The Turks gave us a solid enema, and now it’s clear who’s worth what. It’s not for you to hang orders and issue certificates in the Kremlin. Lessons must be learned as soon as possible. And the perpetrators will be brought to justice. The funds were spent on defense... Where is the result?!
    57. +1
      1 March 2020 00: 21
      According to Turkish media reports, the headquarters of a number of units were destroyed by drone strikes, including the following:

      General Burhan Rahmoon

      General Ismail Ali
    58. 0
      1 March 2020 00: 28
      Turkish drones
    59. 0
      1 March 2020 01: 34
      And yet it’s fun when you read comments from experts with a callus on the spot from the sofa... and with calluses from the keyboard...))))))))
    60. -1
      1 March 2020 07: 12
      How many Syrians are dying from militants, Turks and barbaric Americans, now ours have gone too, and He is all kind to godfathers and godfathers of various calibers!!.. IT WAS impossible to FORGIVE this newsuleiman THE DEATH of our pilot and diplomat - well, they are insidious, and This is endless!!
    61. -1
      1 March 2020 07: 15
      ...they set themselves up! Erdoganishcha - well, a true Adolfio, and the same mustache!!
    62. 0
      1 March 2020 08: 04
      “— Three tape recorders, three foreign movie cameras, three domestic cigarette cases, a suede jacket... three...” (c) winked
      ­
    63. +3
      1 March 2020 11: 10
      Even if the Turks, as usual, half lie, things are serious there. Taking into account the fact that Turkey supplied its drones and ammunition to Bandera’s gangs, Russia has something to think about.
    64. 0
      1 March 2020 12: 45
      “Doctor, it’s been five years since I’ve been sleeping with my wife.”
      - And how old are you?
      - 65.
      - This is age, old man, age.
      - But the neighbor is 75, he says that every day ...
      - Well, and you say.
    65. 0
      4 March 2020 10: 54
      The strong one wins. And today, we have been ground to ashes. I would like to know how our “heroes” from the Ministry of Defense and Kremlin strategists will now talk about the country’s defense capability?! In 3 days we were given such an enema that it becomes obvious that Russia is not ready to conduct operations in local conflicts without the use of nuclear weapons. Today's example of Syria suggests that our air defense will be crushed within 3 days, and combined arms formations will be left without cover and will suffer catastrophic losses on all fronts. The question arises: why did they tell us about the superpower of the Russian Armed Forces and who will be responsible for the waste of budget funds on the creation of weapons? It is not necessary to equip the “Syrian Express”, but trains to the southern river called Kolyma, to recoup the people’s money that was ineptly spent.

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