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Defense Ministry commented on strike on Turkish forces in Idlib

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Defense Ministry commented on strike on Turkish forces in Idlib

Turkish forces came under attack from the Syrian army, as they were among militants advancing on the positions of government forces. Ankara did not notify Moscow of the presence of its troops in this area of ​​Idlib province. This was stated in the Ministry of Defense of Russia.


The Russian military department noted that Turkish servicemen were hit in the area of ​​Behun, where government forces in Damascus attacked militants of the banned terrorist group Khayyat Tahrir Al-Sham (Jabhat al-Nusra) in Russia. The militants tried to attack the position of the Syrian army. At the same time, no information was received from Turkey that its forces were in the area, despite the requests of the Russian side.

According to the transmitted coordinates, no units of the Turkish armed forces in the area of ​​the settlement Behun were and should not have been

- said in the Russian Center for the Reconciliation of the warring parties in Syria.

The Russian Ministry of Defense noted that after receiving information about the dead and wounded Turkish military personnel, Russia helped establish a ceasefire in this area and a safe evacuation.

It is emphasized that aviation The Russian Aerospace Forces in the area of ​​Behun was not used.

In turn, the Russian side accused Turkey of violating the Sochi agreements.

In violation of the Sochi accords in the Idlib de-escalation zone, the Turkish side continues to support the actions of illegal armed groups by artillery fire and the use of reconnaissance and strike unmanned aircraft for striking at Syrian forces

- said the head of the Russian center for reconciliation of the warring parties in the SAR, Rear Admiral Oleg Zhuravlev.
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  1. Livonetc
    Livonetc 28 February 2020 10: 29
    +15
    SAA destroyed the terrorists, between whom the Turkish interventionists, carrying out treacherous aggression against Syria, lurked.
    God rest their souls.
    1. Azazelo
      Azazelo 28 February 2020 10: 33
      +3
      It is said that the Russian Aerospace Forces were not used in that strike. Only the Syrian Air Force worked .... how do you read? ....
      1. Livonetc
        Livonetc 28 February 2020 10: 35
        +7
        I don’t read very well on my smartphone, even with glasses. hi
        Corrected.
        1. TatarinSSSR
          TatarinSSSR 28 February 2020 10: 41
          -11
          even with glasses - what's the point of your comment? You are stupidly briefly retelling the article. What is already written in it. The main thing for you is probably to write FIRST, to be in time. Pluck pluses. Is that so? Aren't these site "titles" so important to you? Why do you watch for hours on new articles on VO to write nonsense, but first ?! You yourself are not bad at what you are?
          1. maxim947
            maxim947 28 February 2020 10: 57
            +12
            The situation is extremely difficult.
            It is curious what Erdogan will say about this at home, although, in principle, the meaning is predictable. If he does not change his mind and does not "turn on the back", then he will soon be "removed" from the authorities, there are still enough people willing. Do not throw slippers, just personal opinion).
            1. TatarinSSSR
              TatarinSSSR 28 February 2020 11: 06
              +1
              You are most likely right. Erdogan's entourage sees that he is now either pan or gone. And clearly ready to substitute and merge. Therefore, they carefully insist on aggression and conflict with Russia. If he is a fool, then he will lead to this, forgetting about who wanted to overthrow him earlier and who warned about it.
            2. Stas157
              Stas157 28 February 2020 11: 13
              -5
              Turkish forces come under attack from the Syrian army

              Well done Syrians - fighting the aggressor!

              after receiving information about the dead and wounded Turkish soldiers, Russia helped establish a ceasefire on this site

              And ours help to stop.
            3. Nyrobsky
              Nyrobsky 28 February 2020 12: 36
              +2
              Quote: maxim947
              The situation is extremely difficult.
              It is curious what Erdogan will say about this at home, although, in principle, the meaning is predictable. If he does not change his mind and does not "turn on the back", then he will soon be "removed" from the authorities, there are still enough people willing. Do not throw slippers, just a personal opinion)
              Why throw slippers? Correct opinion. Edik got involved in a serious problem, on the correct solution of which his political future depends. Immediately in his entourage a "support group" was organized, which is distinguished by aggressive rhetoric towards Russia, and sworn "friends" from Washington have already whispered to him about Turkey's support in preparing the military operation. He is clearly being pushed towards a military solution to the Idlib problem, which will lead to the destruction of normal Russian-Turkish relations at all levels. Russia will not be able to afford to yield to Erdogan's adventures and will respond accordingly. If Edik fails the power option, then tomorrow there will be another sultan in Turkey, who will be more accommodating in relations with the same USA. So, apparently, little by little, interested countries, through the attracted people, are already lining Edika's funeral bed.
          2. tihonmarine
            tihonmarine 28 February 2020 10: 59
            +9
            Quote: TatarinSSSR
            You yourself are not bad at what you are?

            He didn’t write anything so bad, don’t find fault with such a bias towards the guy.
          3. Livonetc
            Livonetc 28 February 2020 11: 00
            +25
            Do not guard.
            I go out on occasion, in transport or in breaks.
            I do not smoke and I have breaks in the internet.
            What is guilty is in stilettos sympathizing with Turkish aggressors.
            I agree, a certain trolling of these personalities is present on my part.
            These comrades are about 5 active on the site, according to my observations.
            He gave his military duty to his homeland in due time.
            And the actions of Turkey really outrage me.
            1. TatarinSSSR
              TatarinSSSR 28 February 2020 11: 08
              0
              Ok, let's go. Soryan. And the actions of Turkey outrage all adequate people. But here the connection between the USA and Turkey and the actions on Syria and specifically Idlib are clearly visible in one bundle. What Russian strategists did not take into account in advance, did not calculate their actions.
          4. Grits
            Grits 28 February 2020 11: 12
            +6
            Quote: TatarinSSSR
            You stupidly briefly retold the article. What is already written in it. The main thing for you is probably to write FIRST, to be in time. Pluck pluses. Is that so? Aren't these site "titles" so important to you? Why do you watch for hours on new articles on VO in order to write nonsense, but first ?! You yourself are not bad at what you are?

            Let me disagree with you. Due to the fact that I live in the Far East, I often read some articles before others. At that time, while the vast majority of readers are still sleeping. Involuntarily it sometimes turns out that you write a comment either first or among the first. Yes, the number of points in this case is much greater than that of others. But not the fact that they will definitely be pluses. Quite often I collect a huge pile of minuses. It's a shame, of course, it happens. Well - how many people, so many opinions.
            1. TatarinSSSR
              TatarinSSSR 28 February 2020 11: 32
              +1
              But I don’t understand this pursuit of pluses. Here is a forum, communication about articles. And people are not required to write the same thing, everyone has different opinions. And there should be a dialogue, perhaps even a dispute. The main thing is without violating the rules of the site. And stupidly minus those with whom I disagree and scribble a jingoistic patriotic nonsense for the sake of pluses, any student can.
          5. cost
            cost 28 February 2020 11: 27
            +9
            TatarinSSSR (Tatarin): The main thing for you apparently to write FIRST, to be in time

            absolutely unfounded statement. Gennady does not sin. And who cares who writes first? You write, if this is so important to you. Who will not mind
      2. Simfy
        Simfy 28 February 2020 11: 08
        0
        Vietnamese pilot Lee Si Tzyn)
    2. Thrifty
      Thrifty 28 February 2020 11: 02
      +4
      On the territory of Syria, everything, and the Turks, and their hand-made mongrel Fighters are subject to liquidation! For with arms they came to the Syrian land! The rest is from the evil one!
      1. Olgovich
        Olgovich 28 February 2020 11: 10
        +4
        Quote: Thrifty
        On the territory of Syria, everything, and the Turks, and their hand-made mongrel Fighters are subject to liquidation! For with arms they came to the Syrian land!

        I agree!

        But let them fight the Turks not Russian troops.
  2. Tzar
    Tzar 28 February 2020 10: 31
    +21
    Some kind of justifying tone is felt in the comment ... And if you had notified? Then let the Syrians calmly attack in the arms with the HTS? .. You need tougher with them, tougher.
    1. Naive
      Naive 28 February 2020 10: 35
      -9
      So it is, they did it and now they are trying to hand it back.
    2. TatarinSSSR
      TatarinSSSR 28 February 2020 10: 36
      +8
      I’m wondering, if now Turkish combat aircraft begin to enter enormously into Syrian airspace and iron Syrian positions. What then? Russian VKS will shoot them down? More modern Syrian air defense is concentrated in Damascus and a couple of other large cities. And Idlib does not pose a serious danger to the Turks. So what will Russia do then? Watch the Turks bomb the Syrians in the dust?
      1. Tzar
        Tzar 28 February 2020 10: 42
        +2
        It seems like the S-300 are at Masyaf, it is ~ 50 km from Idlib, they must control the sky over the entire province. But if the Turks will beat like Israel from their territory, then without the intervention of the Russian Federation can not do ...
        1. TatarinSSSR
          TatarinSSSR 28 February 2020 10: 45
          -2
          S-300s have been standing for a year now, probably like the Syrians. And they are silent. Moreover, their positions are constantly monitored by Israelis and Turks and Amers.
          1. Tzar
            Tzar 28 February 2020 10: 53
            +6
            And for whom were they to work? The United States is flying over the Euphrates, Israel is attacking from its own or foreign airspace, the Turks have been closed by the Aerospace Forces. And there are "easier" systems for terrorist drones.
            1. TatarinSSSR
              TatarinSSSR 28 February 2020 10: 57
              -1
              The question then begs - why did they put them there, these S-300s? Well, okay, I hope the S-300 Syrians will still prove themselves in business and effectively.
              1. Tzar
                Tzar 28 February 2020 11: 14
                +3
                It looks like they were put on the "Turkish perspective" winked
          2. Genry
            Genry 28 February 2020 12: 20
            +3
            Quote: TatarinSSSR
            S-300s have been standing for a year now, probably like the Syrians.

            Since February 22, they are not silent.
            https://riafan.ru/1253098-vs-sirii-zayavili-chto-budut-sbivat-lyubye-samolety-narushayushie-vozdushnoe-prostranstvo-sar
            Already shot down by Turkish drones ....
            1. TatarinSSSR
              TatarinSSSR 28 February 2020 12: 39
              0
              But these same "shot down" drones show how the Turks are destroying the Syrian self-propelled guns and so on.
              1. Genry
                Genry 28 February 2020 12: 43
                +4
                Quote: TatarinSSSR
                But these same "shot down" drones show how the Turks are destroying the Syrian self-propelled guns and so on.

                "Despite the fact that only one Turkish drone was officially reported, it became known that, in fact, Turkey has lost at least 14 of its drones in the last two weeks."
                Read more at: http://avia.pro/news/turciya-pozhalovalas-chto-siriya-sbivaet-vse-bespilotniki-ankary
                .......
                1. TatarinSSSR
                  TatarinSSSR 28 February 2020 12: 49
                  +1
                  I willingly believe that Turkey has lost part of the UAV, even with a dozen. But let's think, with such constant strikes - those who run out faster - self-propelled guns, tanks, etc. and most importantly - trained experienced crews for them, or UAVs in Turkey?
                  1. Genry
                    Genry 28 February 2020 13: 01
                    +2
                    Quote: TatarinSSSR
                    But let's think, with such constant strikes - those who run out faster - self-propelled guns, tanks, etc. and most importantly - trained experienced crews for them, or UAVs in Turkey?

                    The Syrians fought without air defense. Now pulled up.
                    UAVs on approach are already simply destroyed.
                2. TatarinSSSR
                  TatarinSSSR 28 February 2020 12: 50
                  0
                  By the way, your photo with a downed UAV is a photo from Libya. He was shot down by the Haftar army.
                  1. Genry
                    Genry 28 February 2020 12: 51
                    0
                    Quote: TatarinSSSR
                    This is a photo from Libya.

                    Taken from the article by reference.
                    1. TatarinSSSR
                      TatarinSSSR 28 February 2020 13: 01
                      +1
                      I would not trust the AVI.PRO resource, because more than once he published fakes. It is even enough to look at the headlines on this site - they are at the level of yellow Yandex Zen, where you just call a dashing shocking headline. "Chinese warship attacked an American reconnaissance aircraft." Suggestive?
                      1. Genry
                        Genry 28 February 2020 13: 15
                        +1
                        Quote: TatarinSSSR
                        It’s even enough to look at the headings on this site - they are at the level of yellow Yandex

                        In your screenshot, there is nothing sucked - a selection of hot news.
                        Well ... the whole Internet smacks of subjectivity and yellowness. Everybody has bloopers and quickie.
                      2. TatarinSSSR
                        TatarinSSSR 28 February 2020 13: 32
                        -4
                        Nothing? Attacking and directing the laser are two different things. And no self-respecting resource will write such a blizzard in the header. And referring to such articles - do not respect yourself. Even SANA is even more objective.
                      3. Genry
                        Genry 28 February 2020 14: 16
                        +2
                        Quote: TatarinSSSR
                        Attacking and directing the laser are two different things.

                        Direct - this is about the laser turned off and nobody cares.
                        In this case, there is a fact of detecting radiation .... it is still perceived as a very characteristic effect of electronic warfare.
                      4. TatarinSSSR
                        TatarinSSSR 28 February 2020 14: 33
                        -3
                        Any aircraft is exposed to radiation where there is at least some kind of civilization. Even you and I are irradiated every day - from cell towers for example. Even from a computer and phone. There is a laser pointer even in stores - it costs 100 rubles. any child can buy and direct to anyone. Even the bunny from the mirror is also irradiation. And all this is called ATTACK? There is nothing to talk about.
                      5. Genry
                        Genry 28 February 2020 14: 43
                        +3
                        Quote: TatarinSSSR
                        Even you and I are irradiated every day - from cell towers for example.

                        Do they disrupt the operation of the equipment?
                        Quote: TatarinSSSR
                        There is a laser pointer even in stores - it costs 100 rubles. any child can buy and direct to anyone.

                        If you direct it to the cockpit ....
                        Quote: TatarinSSSR
                        Even the bunny from the mirror is also irradiation.

                        Spotlight on the road forgotten.
                        Quote: TatarinSSSR
                        There is nothing to talk about.

                        Then why did the Americans go wild when the Soviet Union lit their Challenger with a laser?
                      6. TatarinSSSR
                        TatarinSSSR 28 February 2020 16: 34
                        -6
                        Because they are not "touched". Lower their great touch. Even with a laser. No no. Not by status. It’s as if a bespectacled nerd in the classroom began to grimace a violent overgrown. Well, the Americans think.
              2. Nikolai Grek
                Nikolai Grek 29 February 2020 02: 00
                +2
                Quote: TatarinSSSR
                But these same "shot down" drones show how the Turks are destroying the Syrian self-propelled guns and so on.

                believe it - do not respect yourself !!! request wassat
        2. Grits
          Grits 28 February 2020 11: 15
          -3
          Quote: Tzar
          But if the Turks will beat like Israel from their territory, then without the intervention of the Russian Federation can not do ...

          But it’s unlikely that ours will hit the Turkish territory. We have much more Shugani than Erdogan.
      2. Stalllker
        Stalllker 28 February 2020 10: 50
        +4
        Most likely it will be so, but I would like to make mistakes and hope that the Turks will not provoke
      3. dorz
        dorz 28 February 2020 11: 02
        +7
        Quote: TatarinSSSR
        I’m wondering, if now Turkish combat aircraft begin to enter into Syrian airspace en masse and iron Syrian positions. What then?


        Video from the Turkish Ministry of Defense, work with a UAV strike UAV in Idlib province:



        Slightly threw from TG channels in Turkey today:

        The pro-Iranian agency IWN claims that according to its sources, the number of dead Turkish soldiers is 67 people.

        According to journalist Bulent Aydemir on Turkish TV, Ankara asked the United States to deploy the Mount Whitney ship off the coast of Syria to support electronic warfare, but the request was rejected.

        Twitter turned off in Turkey. As part of the fight against the spread of news about the deaths of Turkish troops, the national provider Turk Telekom has closed access to the social network.

        The Turkish National Intelligence Service told the militants to be prepared.
        Why - go on the offensive or lead refugee caravans to Europe - is not specified.

        In the Turkish city of Reyhanli, a rally is held against Syria and Russia.

        An official declaration of war on the Syrian regime will be published by parliament’s decision tomorrow.

        But do not you think that the NATO leadership deliberately ignores Erdogan’s requests to force Turkey back into the stall?
        1. TatarinSSSR
          TatarinSSSR 28 February 2020 11: 15
          +1
          In principle, I saw a lot of reports about the work of the Turkish Air Force and their UAVs on the Syrian forces in the Ilib area, but I believed in the Russian media, vying proudly telling how the Russian Air Force did not let Turkish planes into Syria. Thanks for the info and video. It is tough....
        2. Grits
          Grits 28 February 2020 11: 17
          +5
          Quote: dorz
          Video from the Turkish Ministry of Defense, work with a UAV strike UAV in Idlib province:

          Damn ..... a good thing. Why do not we have such?
          1. TatarinSSSR
            TatarinSSSR 28 February 2020 11: 38
            +2
            Something I doubt that the work with the shock UAV in the video. I reviewed it a couple more times - it shows that the ammunition does not arrive from above, but at a small angle to the surface. Most likely high-precision artillery ammunition. From Turkish self-propelled guns. And the UAV of the Turks works as a scout and spotter, gunner.
            1. Lekxnumx
              Lekxnumx 28 February 2020 11: 45
              +3
              According to the Turkish media, the Syrian army was ironed with f-16 ammunition with laser guidance with a bang. Not a single artillery in the world does not hit so precisely, even corrected.
              1. TatarinSSSR
                TatarinSSSR 28 February 2020 11: 49
                +1
                Well, according to the Russian media, the Russian Air Force does not allow Turkish F-16s into Syrian airspace) Logically, it will be very difficult for Turkey's F-16s to get into a single tank or group of fighters on the outskirts of Idlib in Syria with a missile from Turkey, distance there is not small)))
                1. Lekxnumx
                  Lekxnumx 28 February 2020 11: 53
                  +5
                  We’ll wait and see which version is true. During the information war, there is not much trust on both sides.
                  1. TatarinSSSR
                    TatarinSSSR 28 February 2020 11: 54
                    +2
                    I agree completely. Time will tell.
        3. protoss
          protoss 28 February 2020 12: 11
          +1
          Yes, everything went very seriously there:
    3. Topgun
      Topgun 28 February 2020 10: 55
      +11
      I agree, the Turks have long been blown away and such a comment by the Foreign Ministry may spur them to get even ...
      IMHO, on the contrary, it was necessary to "run over" on the Turks - "why don't you paint your equipment white and wear white helmets? Why do you ride in columns with bandits? You are to blame, and if you do not take into account the above, there will be more victims - war"
      1. TatarinSSSR
        TatarinSSSR 28 February 2020 11: 17
        +1
        Your speeches would be in the text of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs ... This is not sarcasm, this is full agreement with you.
    4. Ivan Ivanov
      Ivan Ivanov 28 February 2020 11: 00
      +2
      Quote: Tzar
      Some kind of justifying tone is felt in the comment ... And if you had notified? Then let the Syrians calmly attack in the arms with the HTS? .. You need tougher with them, tougher.

      Our run between the drops, the so-called "real politician", which we extol in opposition to Soviet, "ideologized" politics is a complicated matter, fraught with surprises. One of two things is either running between drops, or "harder".
  3. TatarinSSSR
    TatarinSSSR 28 February 2020 10: 32
    +5
    Then either directly hit the Turkish artillery and tanks that are firing at Syrian positions, or supply the most modern and perfect weapons to the Syrians, from MANPADS and ATGMs to tanks and bombers. And disguising his specialists in the Syrian uniform - put Erdagan in place. You can’t fight directly with Turkey.
    1. Livonetc
      Livonetc 28 February 2020 10: 38
      +11
      In this situation, it is impractical.
      However, if such a need arises, it is possible and necessary.
      And they should not have any doubts about it.
    2. Irokez
      Irokez 28 February 2020 10: 39
      +4
      Quote: TatarinSSSR
      You can’t fight directly with Turkey.

      You can’t fight, but if claims begin and the conflict escalates, the Bosphorus can be cut off and Syria’s supply will stop.
      The situation is very complicated and here it is necessary to carefully settle it precisely with the Turks and not to the detriment of Syria. The Turks, of course, play with fire and can provoke a war, but we also don’t really need it. The Americans can take advantage of this and introduce new troops in the east of Syria and the Kurds can set the Syrians again, and Israel can become more active.
      Everything is very dangerous.
      1. Xenofont
        Xenofont 28 February 2020 11: 44
        +1
        Well, what are you talking about the Bosphorus? Supply from the Baltic who redraws us? Through Iran-Iraq to the extreme.
        1. Irokez
          Irokez 28 February 2020 11: 55
          -2
          But what is the length of the path from the Baltic and the Black Sea, and Iran-Iraq by land or by air. There is a difference. The most economical and fastest Bosphorus.
          1. Xenofont
            Xenofont 28 February 2020 12: 42
            +3
            Yes, the difference is not so great if necessary: ​​a couple of days extra from the Baltic. Now, if a real war, then any supply is in question.
    3. Спартак
      Спартак 28 February 2020 11: 00
      -2
      Instead of specialists, let’s change your clothes so that we don’t fight directly with Turkey.
      1. TatarinSSSR
        TatarinSSSR 28 February 2020 11: 03
        +4
        And instead of me, let's change you into rainbow and send you to Eurovision? In order not to lose it next time. Well, that’s your logic.
        1. Vladimir_6
          Vladimir_6 28 February 2020 12: 54
          +3
          Quote: TatarinSSSR
          And instead of me, let's change you into rainbow and send you to Eurovision?

          Well, you gave out the text. According to the logic of the text, if "Spartak" does not accept your offer, then you yourself will have to go to Eurovision in a rosy disguise.
          1. TatarinSSSR
            TatarinSSSR 28 February 2020 13: 04
            -1
            According to his logic, instead of "specialists" in the form of the LDNR, I was supposed to go to war with the Ukrovoyski. Due to the fact that he wrote a comment on VO. Read the entire dialogue, and do not pull out what you want.
            1. Vladimir_6
              Vladimir_6 28 February 2020 13: 19
              +1
              Quote: TatarinSSSR
              According to his logic, instead of "specialists" in the form of the LDNR, I was supposed to go to war with the Ukrovoyski. Due to the fact that he wrote a comment on VO. Read the entire dialogue, and do not pull out what you want.

              I read the whole dialogue.
              Instead of specialists, let’s change your clothes so that we don’t fight directly with Turkey.

              This is the proposal of "Spartacus"
              And instead of me, let's change you into rainbow and send you to Eurovision? In order not to lose it next time.

              Pearl from you.
              You here about pluses crucified. But you yourself could not find an argument other than a minus. Write more.
              1. TatarinSSSR
                TatarinSSSR 28 February 2020 13: 34
                -1
                Minus like you sculpt. In defense of "druzhbanov" on the keyboard. And they are plus signs. Generals and admirals of the site .... And it is not your friend who decides who should go where instead of specialists. And it's not up to you to decide what to write to me and to whom. Olividerchi, keyboard minus fighter.
              2. TatarinSSSR
                TatarinSSSR 28 February 2020 13: 41
                0
                And here is your pearl (one of), which speaks of you as a complete amateur in the military world -
                Pay attention to shots with groups of militants. They don’t even try to organize a circular defense. Just scatter. They are probably surely aware that they have fallen under the sights of the Russian MTRs.

                Only a complete ignoramus in hostilities can scour such a thing .... They at this moment have no time to find out who works on them, the MTR or someone else. When you come under direct fire and fighters are dead dead next to you - the first action of any person, at least civilian, at least special forces - is to leave the shooting range as soon as possible and hide in shelter. That is to survive. And in your opinion - they should have laid down or stood on one knee and fired at the disguised enemy who is in a convenient closed position, who is holding them under direct fire. There, all fractions of a second and shot. There is no time for Rambov shootings in response to such moments. You are inadequate and a layman in military affairs.
                1. Vladimir_6
                  Vladimir_6 28 February 2020 14: 04
                  0
                  Quote: TatarinSSSR
                  And here is your pearl (one of), which speaks of you as a complete amateur in the military world -

                  And you probably all the hot spots have passed. And now, presumably, from Idlib broadcast.
                  even with glasses - what's the point of your comment? You are stupidly briefly retelling the article. What is already written in it. The main thing for you is probably to write FIRST, to be in time. Pluck pluses. Is that so? Aren't these site "titles" so important to you? Why do you watch for hours on new articles on VO to write nonsense, but first ?! You yourself are not bad at what you are?

                  In each phrase, a complete lack of intelligence.
                  And instead of me, let's change you into rainbow and send you to Eurovision? In order not to lose it next time.

                  This is the role of the rainbow just for you on the shoulder.
              3. TatarinSSSR
                TatarinSSSR 28 February 2020 13: 49
                -1
                Therefore, your opinion is no longer interesting to me. I will not conduct any more dialogues with you. Minus as much as you like - you don't deserve respect like you from the military. Be proud of your "VO rank" - Keyboard Captain
                1. Vladimir_6
                  Vladimir_6 28 February 2020 14: 55
                  +2
                  Quote: TatarinSSSR
                  Be proud of your "VO rank" - Keyboard Captain

                  Do not be discouraged "TatarinSSSR". Your registration from February 16, 2020.
                  God willing, become a keyboard general. I do not see any obstacles for you.
                  Therefore, your opinion is no longer interesting to me. I will no longer conduct dialogues with you.

                  You just nervously reacted to my first post, and then:
                  Only a complete ignoramus in hostilities can scourge this.

                  You are inadequate and a layman in military affairs.

                  You can add from your answer to the comrade "Livonetc (Gennady)":
                  even with glasses - what is the point of your comment? You stupidly retold the article.

                  to write a RISK, but first? You yourself are not bad at what you are?

                  And this, sorry - rudeness. Demanding courtesy - be polite yourself. hi
    4. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 28 February 2020 11: 08
      0
      Quote: TatarinSSSR
      You can’t fight directly with Turkey.

      Without a doubt.
      1. mitroha
        mitroha 1 March 2020 09: 18
        0
        In my opinion, there is more to remember about this statement
        "Choosing between war and shame, choosing shame, you will get both war and shame" I can't vouch for accuracy, but I think it's clear
    5. Grits
      Grits 28 February 2020 11: 19
      +3
      Quote: TatarinSSSR
      or supply the most modern and perfect weapons to the Syrians, from MANPADS and ATGMs to tanks and bombers. And having dressed his specialists in the Syrian uniform - put Erdagan in place.

      Previously, you had to think about it. Now it’s too late to drink Borjomi.
  4. Skay
    Skay 28 February 2020 10: 33
    +8
    Barmalei Turks hiding as a human shield. Rather, Erdogan with his soldiers, like a human shield, covers the barmaley.
  5. Dave36
    Dave36 28 February 2020 10: 34
    +2
    For drying and rook even!)
    1. Vol4ara
      Vol4ara 28 February 2020 10: 43
      -1
      Quote: Dave36
      For drying and rook even!)

      Syrians bombed, no one even
    2. AU Ivanov.
      AU Ivanov. 28 February 2020 11: 57
      +2
      Long ago, when 20 Turkish pilots died in the attack. Why is it precisely pilots, not sailors and not paratroopers.
  6. Klingon
    Klingon 28 February 2020 10: 41
    +3
    Quote: Livonetc
    SAA destroyed the terrorists, between whom the Turkish interventionists, carrying out treacherous aggression against Syria, lurked.
    God rest their souls.

    what are you talking about? I hope the Devil also roasts them properly
  7. Olya Tsako
    Olya Tsako 28 February 2020 10: 48
    +1
    Apparently, the Turks fell into a stupor and try to ask the more militarily experienced Americans how to get out of this dangerous situation. How does this threaten both sides? Turkey, contrary to hopes, is getting more and more drawn into the conflict in Syria. Although yesterday, there were some hopes that the conflict would be “frozen” and transferred to the local phase, without the active intervention of the regular armies of neighboring countries, such as Turkey, Iran and God forbid Russia. But in connection with the events that took place in the last hours, Ankara can hardly do without small measures in relation to the Assad regime.
    1. TatarinSSSR
      TatarinSSSR 28 February 2020 11: 00
      +3
      I am afraid that it was the United States that gave the Idlib Turks an action plan. Indeed, before that, Turkey and the United States had a conflict over the Kurds. So the United States and went towards the Turks, leaving the Kurds and leading the military away, and the Turks are now reciprocating the United States - fulfilling their plan.
    2. g1washntwn
      g1washntwn 28 February 2020 11: 02
      0
      Quote: Olya Tsako
      more militant Americans

      Americans want to apply their experience only where they do not shoot at them. Trump has defined the boundary of responsibility: the Americans control stealing Syrian oil, and the Turks voluntarily climb establish a truce into the loop. To each his own.
    3. Nikolai Grek
      Nikolai Grek 29 February 2020 02: 16
      +3
      Quote: Olya Tsako
      more militant Americans

      well made fun !!! laughing laughing good
  8. TatarinSSSR
    TatarinSSSR 28 February 2020 10: 54
    +5
    It seems to me that everything Turkey is doing now is a multi-port from the USA. No wonder the United States abruptly withdrew its troops from this region. This was a pre-conceived operation with the expectation of further steps by Turkey. Turkey fulfills its role - introduces troops into Idlib, arming the barmaley, helps bleeding the advancing Syrian troops, puts Russia before the choice - either a direct military conflict with the Turkish army (Turkey is a NATO country) and, accordingly, the destruction of friendly relations between Turkey and Russia for a dozen years ahead, as and the collapse of the economies of both countries, and all this for the sake of Khmeimim and Tartus. Or do not touch the Turks and gradually merge Assad, transferring everything to the plane of negotiations on Idlib and its autonomy under the protectorate of Turkey. Here the Americans and crawl out as a guarantor and good uncles of the world.
    1. Livonetc
      Livonetc 28 February 2020 11: 05
      +2
      This is a predictable reaction to the defeat of his claims in Syria Erdogan.
    2. g1washntwn
      g1washntwn 28 February 2020 11: 07
      +3
      There is such a power option. The whole problem is that the Americans and the Turks are de jure invaders. There is no mandate, even being on the territory of the SAR is illegal under international law, and all their propaganda about peace, counterterrorism operations and support for the green "opposition" is strong on the surface.
      1. TatarinSSSR
        TatarinSSSR 28 February 2020 11: 20
        -2
        In Syria, US forces and other countries have been present for 11 years. Not legal. All these 11 years, did anyone care about this at the UN, except for Russia and Syria?)
        1. g1washntwn
          g1washntwn 28 February 2020 11: 48
          +2
          Don't slide into primitive. Not only the Russian Federation has a veto in the UN, but to what situations it is applied everyone sees and draws conclusions for themselves that no propaganda about the "opposition" (which previously cut their heads) will not convince.
          1. TatarinSSSR
            TatarinSSSR 28 February 2020 12: 01
            0
            Just the same "primitive" is to believe in the "insight" of the West. There is a full-scale world war on the axis of the United States, Britain, Japan and the Saudis on the one hand - against Russia, China, a certain part of Europe and the Arab world on the other. This war is not hot in the classical sense - it is a war for domination and conquest of markets, resources, the minds of young people and traditional values. And it is conducted in all ways - from dirty disinformation to dirty political and economic. And in response, you have to beat the same methods. For the one who tries to play fair in such a game will be a fool.
  9. Victor March 47
    Victor March 47 28 February 2020 11: 00
    +5
    "The Russian military department noted that Turkish soldiers came under attack in the area of ​​the village of Behun, where the government forces of Damascus attacked the militants of the terrorist group Hayat Tahrir Al-Sham (Jabhat al-Nusra) banned in Russia. The militants tried to launch an offensive. in the position of the Syrian army. At the same time, there was no information from Turkey that its forces were in the area, despite the requests of the Russian side. "

    This fact, not the recognition by the Turks of their own losses from our blow, confirms that they do not want to endure this case as a reason for contention. Silently swallowed. Success to them in this.
  10. Livonetc
    Livonetc 28 February 2020 11: 04
    +2
    Quote: TatarinSSSR
    I’m wondering, if now Turkish combat aircraft begin to enter enormously into Syrian airspace and iron Syrian positions. What then? Russian VKS will shoot them down? More modern Syrian air defense is concentrated in Damascus and a couple of other large cities. And Idlib does not pose a serious danger to the Turks. So what will Russia do then? Watch the Turks bomb the Syrians in the dust?

    Russia also supplies supplies to Syria’s air defense systems.
    However, throwing untrained calculations into battle is impractical.
    Russia will continue to strengthen the defense capability of the SAA.
    This is what Russia will do further.
    1. TatarinSSSR
      TatarinSSSR 28 February 2020 11: 25
      -2
      I'm afraid by that time there will be no one to teach. Assad’s Syrian army is already very battered. They are beaten by Israel, the USA, barmaleys of all stripes, now also Turkey, especially the regular army of one of the strongest NATO armies in the region. Syrians need to be supplied with weapons, trained too, but there will be no sense from this - if these weapons are destroyed by Turkey from the air and artillery. What is the use of the S-300 Syrians standing there for more than a year? Israel is bombing from a long distance. Turkey can do as well. There is only one way to stop the shelling of the enemy - destroying his firing points and supply routes.
      1. Livonetc
        Livonetc 28 February 2020 11: 35
        +4
        I am not a supporter of Israeli actions.
        However, they cause minimal damage directly to the CAA.
        Regarding the state of CAA.
        At the moment she is in the best condition.
        Unfortunately, there are not many combat ready units at the proper level and they do not have enough for full-fledged offensive operations on all fronts.
        This explains some of the successes of the bearded and their Turkish sponsors.
        The firing points of the Turks in Syria, as well as the columns following the supply routes, are periodically destroyed.
        C300 primarily protect the strategic infrastructure of Syria and have shown their capacity.
        However, a full-fledged layered air defense has not yet been created.
        For this reason, one should not expect "outstanding" results from the Syrian air defense system.
        The Syrian Express has its own capabilities, limited by objective factors.
        As well as the opportunity to fully prepare the Syrian air defense calculations.
        Now, for example, the re-equipment of Russian air defense is beginning from S300 systems to S350.
        It is possible that the replaced C300 complexes will be forwarded to a certain extent in Syria.
        I mean, first of all, that you should not expect instant and absolute success in all areas.
        1. TatarinSSSR
          TatarinSSSR 28 February 2020 11: 44
          -1
          The firing points of the Turks in Syria, as well as the columns following the supply routes, are periodically destroyed.
          C300 primarily protect the strategic infrastructure of Syria and have shown their capacity.

          Who are being destroyed? I have never seen how Turkish self-propelled guns and tanks are destroyed in a firing position. Destroyed armored vehicles transmitted by the Turks to the militants in messages I saw. But it is precisely strikes against the Turkish army’s armored vehicles and its supply columns that there are no such proofs anywhere. You confuse with the destruction of the technology of barmaley.
          1. Livonetc
            Livonetc 28 February 2020 11: 54
            +3
            I also have not personally seen.
            Destroyed columns with armored vehicles can be considered the help of barmaley and deny the ownership and presence of the Turks in this destroyed column.
            There was also information about the attempt by the Turks, under the guise of barmaley, to strike systems of volley fire at Hmeimim.
            Batteries were destroyed in positions.
            And firm "proofs" are not beneficial to Turkey or the Russian Federation, therefore there is no such confirmation.
            However, even Turkey to a certain extent recognizes its losses at least in manpower.
            They do not recognize more.
  11. Piramidon
    Piramidon 28 February 2020 11: 14
    +3
    Turkish forces came under attack from the Syrian army, as they were among militants advancing on the positions of government forces.

    Who hid behind whom, the Ottomans barmalei, or the Ottomans barmalei? request
  12. MONEY
    MONEY 28 February 2020 11: 17
    +2
    Ay ah ah !! We didn’t know that in the ranks of the barmalei there are Turkish soldiers !! If we knew we wouldn’t do anything bad for you ... The words of the Ministry of Defense sound like an apology !! sick of this circus ...
  13. Lesorub
    Lesorub 28 February 2020 11: 40
    +5
    According to the transmitted coordinates, no units of the Turkish armed forces in the area of ​​the settlement Behun were and should not have been

    Why give explanations (looks like an excuse), you need to take an example from Israel - quietly - not any information or themselves to blame - the Turks are not in their own land.
    1. aszzz888
      aszzz888 28 February 2020 11: 46
      +2
      Lesorub (Anatoly) Today, 11:40 AM NEW
      +2
      According to the transmitted coordinates, no units of the Turkish armed forces in the area of ​​the settlement Behun were and should not have been

      Why give explanations (looks like an excuse), you need to take an example from Israel - quietly - not any information or themselves to blame - the Turks are not in their own land.
      I completely agree with you. But the question is different. Who is the roof of Israel (and it becomes clear that the Merikatos will be the first with their sanctions), and what a howl ALL around will raise. By the way, including on the VO website.
  14. SanSanych Gusev
    SanSanych Gusev 28 February 2020 11: 42
    -5
    I wonder who directs the aircraft to the target? Or do they hit squares?
  15. aszzz888
    aszzz888 28 February 2020 11: 43
    -1
    Turkish forces came under attack from the Syrian army, as they were among militants advancing on the positions of government forces.
    Lost Sheep. bully
  16. AU Ivanov.
    AU Ivanov. 28 February 2020 11: 55
    0
    And here’s the catch for the shot down Drying flew! Revenge is a dish served cold.
    1. Linxs
      Linxs 28 February 2020 12: 19
      -1
      Are you talking about this?



      On the night of February 28, the Turkish Armed Forces launched a series of massive strikes against objects of forces of the Bashar al-Assad regime in the Idlib de-escalation zone.

      Sources in the Turkish security forces reported that artillery and air strikes against Assad's supporters did not stop until the morning.

      UAV cameras recorded moments of destruction of columns of armored vehicles and enemy manpower.

      In addition, strikes were made at the location of the headquarters and ammunition depots.
  17. Whalebone
    Whalebone 28 February 2020 12: 33
    -3
    Quote: TatarinSSSR
    supply the most modern and perfect weapons to the Syrians, from MANPADS and ATGMs to tanks and bombers.

    Could it be better to supply the most advanced weapons to the Russian Armed Forces?
    Assad Sr. was still reminded by the Union, at one time, of billions. And what is the profit? Are there any versions? What did our country get for this?
  18. savment
    savment 28 February 2020 12: 48
    0
    Turkish Defense Minister Hulusi Akar said that as a result of strikes on Syrian military targets, 5 helicopters were destroyed (apparently at the Hama airbase, which was fired on yesterday, but 23 tanks, 23 guns and howitzers, SA-17 air defense systems ("Buk-M1" ) and SA-22 ("Pantsir-C1"), 309 servicemen of the Syrian army.
    Normally, we are helping Syria. With a dozen more such attacks, there will be no more helicopters or guns, and the soldier will decrease. We are good allies for Syria, direct brilliance and beauty. And when Turkish aviation will equalize the Syrian army with the land, our people will also look at it.
    1. Linxs
      Linxs 28 February 2020 12: 54
      +2
      savment
      I wrote about the same above.
      But patriots shout about cold revenge and the fact that Erdogan choked on yesterday's attack by the "Syrian" air force ...
      1. savment
        savment 28 February 2020 13: 02
        0
        As usual, we will apologize and express our deep concern. If we do not now push Turkey in one way or another, we have nothing more to do in world politics. By weight we will be at the level of the Baltic states. Something rings there, but you can not pay attention, let them further engage.
    2. Nikolai Grek
      Nikolai Grek 29 February 2020 02: 23
      +2
      Quote: savment
      Turkish Minister of Defense Hulusi Akar said

      and you and ears hung !!! wassat
  19. Amateur
    Amateur 28 February 2020 13: 01
    +1
    All these Syrian-Russian-Turkish disassemblies of bearded ones and children of someone-how-where are associated with this cartoon.
  20. Vlad5307
    Vlad5307 28 February 2020 13: 10
    +1
    The Russian Federation seems to be running out of patience to see how the other side of the contract does not fulfill its obligations and is openly blocked with barmales. They made it clear to the presumptuous Turkish Sultan that they would not tolerate this in the future. The next move is after the Turkish master of barmaley. We are waiting for the next act of Marlezon ballet. hi
    1. Linxs
      Linxs 28 February 2020 14: 30
      +1
      Quote: Vlad5307
      The next move is after the Turkish master of barmaley. We are waiting for the next act of Marlezon ballet.

      Another Turkish attack? So today he has already made a move.
      Pity the guys.
  21. NEXUS
    NEXUS 28 February 2020 14: 28
    +1
    Turkish forces came under attack from the Syrian army, as they were among militants advancing on the positions of government forces. Ankara did not notify Moscow of the presence of its troops in this area of ​​Idlib province. This was stated in the Ministry of Defense of Russia.

    And attacks on pro-Turkish forces should be made more frequent. Moreover, it would not hurt to transfer several S-300/400 divisions with Bukami and Carapace to that area, so that Turkish pilots would not even have the idea to fly into the air.
    1. CBR600
      CBR600 28 February 2020 14: 57
      0
      There, according to agreements, the use of the Turkish Air Force was prohibited. Edik separately asked for his helicopters, they refused to take out the corpses / wounded. And I think, in vain. Although this moment already makes it clear that "our" air defense is deployed.
      __ But as is already known from the Israeli sortie, there is no air defense in southern Syria.
  22. Bykov.
    Bykov. 28 February 2020 15: 11
    +3
    They stated weighed and without hysteria. That's right. At the same time, the Turks were also accused of supporting terrorists. Well done.
    1. Terenin
      Terenin 29 February 2020 14: 26
      +4
      Quote: Bulls.
      They stated weighed and without hysteria. That's right. At the same time, the Turks were also accused of supporting terrorists. Well done.

      hi That's right, Alex.
      A skilled warrior is never angry. Tao te ching
  23. Chaldon48
    Chaldon48 1 March 2020 03: 33
    0
    Russia does not want to be drawn into a direct conflict with Turkey, but the United States is doing everything possible to make it happen.