Turkish Defense Minister takes command of military operation in Idlib on himself

The head of the Turkish Ministry of Defense, Hulusi Akar, after consulting with representatives of other NATO countries, announced that he would personally lead the Turkish military operation against the Syrian government forces in Idlib. Akar has already gone to the border province of Hatay, where he took command of the troops for the operation.

In Hatay province, the Turks concentrated impressive forces and assets, including long-range artillery, rocket launchers and MLRS. According to some sources, electronic warfare systems are also deployed there.

Meanwhile, pro-Turkish militants based in Serakib continue to regroup after air strikes against them. Statements by terrorists that they got "tons" appeared on the network weapons and the regime’s ammunition as trophies. ” The pictures show grenade launchers, “zinc” with cartridges, grenades, mines, etc.

Returning to the topic of the upcoming Turkish operation: the plans of the Turkish Ministry of Defense are to defeat the Syrian forces in Idlib and "restore" the so-called de-escalation zone, which partially extended to the neighboring provinces - Hama, Aleppo. In fact, it is about the Turkish army again clearing the way for the militants, who in the past few weeks have lost territories controlled over several years.

Earlier it became known that Washington supported Turkey in terms of its preparation for a military operation. According to Turkish media, the Turkish Armed Forces can begin active hostilities using existing forces and assets today.

Comments

[Thrifty]

Well, if he is also inadvertently sent to the houris, it will be in Syria! The next cunning will already think whether it is worth sending troops to the slaughter for the sake of the ambitions of the undersultan! And for the third time, NATO politely showed Erdogad the road that would lead him to his "cherished goal" - a place in hell.

[Bolbot]

Maybe he wants a small victorious operation to solve internal political problems. But very risky. can turn so that, having clawed it, you will have to plunge into the shit with your head when you can no longer give the back. There are too many sides in this viper, and one cannot predict the reaction of all.

[Bolbot]

We are facing the same problem. The mattresses in this story are the most cunning as always. And they got hold of a bunch of bases, and seized oil with the wrong hands, and they are now trading it through Iraq and Turkey with extrabudgetary income past Congress, for Trump's military and secret operations.

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: Bolbot

There are too many sides to this viper, and one cannot predict the reaction of all.

Predict no, but what is to be expected is that Washington expressed support for Turkey.

Earlier it became known that Washington supported Turkey in terms of its preparation for a military operation.

The mattresses will not miss the moment to drive their wedge into the crack that has begun between Ankara and Moscow and realize what they did not succeed when they organized the provocation against the Russian plane with the hands of Turkish Prime Minister Davutoglu. A full-fledged war between Russia and Turkey, this is the best gift for the United States. Does Erdogan understand that mattresses once again line his path to the scaffold?

[Orel]

There is no need for hatred only, or someone doubts that the Turkish army will completely smash the Syrian army, the more Iran does not burn with the desire to fight Turkey, and we really do not represent military force against the Turkish army, which can even solve our aviation there the questions

[Orel]

If Turkey seriously wants to, Assad risks becoming president of the Khmeimim airbase, because he will not be touched there either.

[Mountain shooter]

Turks are not afraid of anything? Today we will see ... But events are going according to a bad scenario.

[cniza]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

But events are going according to a bad scenario.

To put it mildly, this is the road to nowhere ...

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

Turks are not afraid of anything? Today we will see ... But events are going according to a bad scenario.

How afraid they are. The whole reaction after the death of 32 and the injury of 33 soldiers is aimed not at "punishing" Syria, which, according to official Turkish sources, is behind the strike, but at creating a picture for domestic consumption. Turkey does not want to get into a full-fledged conflict.

[maidan.izrailovich]

Turkey does not want to get into a full-fledged conflict.

For this, US advice and support is not needed.
Turkey may not want to get anywhere, but Erdogan’s ambitions will force her to start a full-fledged conflict. The only chance to avoid this is the sudden change of power in Turkey. And that is not a fact.

[Bully]

In this case, Turkey is not an independent player, the United States has found a scapegoat (we must admit a competent move), with whose hands they will continue to spoil us in Syria at a more serious level

[Aleksandr21]

Quote: Bully

In this case, Turkey is not an independent player, the United States has found a scapegoat (we must admit a competent move), with whose hands they will continue to spoil us in Syria at a more serious level

Are you really writing this right now? Turkey is a fairly independent player in the Middle East, and the situation in Syria and Libya once again confirms that Erdogan’s ambitions to create a new Ottoman Empire are in full swing. And the negotiations between Russia and Turkey, this proves that we are conducting a dialogue with an independent state which itself makes decisions and does not follow someone else’s instructions there.

PS The US, of course, has a hand in the conflict, but here they are in the role of an outside observer.

[Bully]

And if you think about the thesis of ambition, and not just repeat the convenient thought of neo-Ottomanism?
1. The presence of US bases on the territory of the state is already a confirmation of non-independence. Try to refute
2. The clash of interests between Turkey and the United States will begin immediately after crossing the first of its southern borders. This is the question of neo-Ottomanism. Not that time and not that alignment of forces in the region.
Hence the conclusion: the latent confrontation between the US and the Russian Federation continues

[Aleksandr21]

Quote: Bully

1. The presence of US bases on the territory of the state is already a confirmation of non-independence. Try to refute
2. The clash of interests between Turkey and the United States will begin immediately after crossing the first of its southern borders. This is the question of neo-Ottomanism. Not that time and not that alignment of forces in the region.
Hence the conclusion: the latent confrontation between the US and the Russian Federation continues

The confrontation between the United States and the Russian Federation is a slightly separate issue. As for Turkey itself, you remember the purchase of the S-400 from us and what reaction it provoked in the USA, they even wanted to impose sanctions (I do not know whether or not they didn’t monitor the situation there, but as a fact, it exists). It was a decision of an independent country, then recall the situation with Fethullah Gulen over which the United States and Erdogan quarreled + we can recall our other joint projects (South Stream, construction of a nuclear power plant) do you think the United States would approve? So Turkey, despite the presence of American bases and being in NATO, is an independent player with its own opinion, and listens only to itself, if it is beneficial, it cooperates with the United States and Russia on some issues. Now the situation (as I see it) is that Erdogan considers Idlib his territory and is not going to give it away, and Assad wants to restore the integrity of the country, the militants in that scheme are just a tool to control the territory. And the catch here lies not in the position of the USA and NATO (in the situation in Idlib), they certainly have their own interests in Syria, but in Erdogan’s ambitions. There is much more to remember here, and how Turkey armed the militants, trained (instructors from Turkey), engaged in the supply of weapons and everything necessary from the very beginning of the conflict, and it seems that it’s just not going to merge them, otherwise there would be no such aggravation and the Turkish army in the open would not have sided.

[New Year day]

Quote: Aleksandr21

The United States is of course a hand in the conflict, but here they are in the role of an outside observer.

well no. The United States is cutting its coupons while everyone shoots and kills each other. In this case, taking control of hydrocarbon deposits

[Aleksandr21]

Quote: Silvestr

well no. The United States is cutting its coupons while everyone shoots and kills each other. In this case, taking control of hydrocarbon deposits

Yes, this is understandable, just in the situation with Idlib, no one is pushing Turkey to defend the militants and keep the territory, this is first of all Erdogan’s decision and whether further aggravation of the situation will depend on his actions now.

[New Year day]

Quote: Aleksandr21

... Erdogan’s decision ..

Alas, yes. He wants a piece of land in Syria and is sure that no one will interfere with him

[hydrox]

Quote: Silvestr

He wants a piece of land in Syria and is sure that no one is hindering him

Here the Sultan is fighting in the brain two factors:
1. Each coffin received in Turetschina brings its political demise closer.
2. If he recaptures even a piece of Syrian land for Turkey - this will greatly strengthen his political position, and delay (or even prevent) the appearance of F. Gulen in Turkey.
There are other factors, but these dominate ...

[askort154]

Aleksandr21 .....PS USA of course the conflict is at hand, but here they are in the role of an outside observer.

With a canister of gas at the fire.

[maidan.izrailovich]

Turkey is a fairly independent player in the Middle East, and the situation in Syria and Libya confirms this once again ....

Are you really writing this right now?
Constant telephone conversations with Erdogan and Trump in Libya and Syria, just the same refute your words. And Erdogan’s last appeal to NATO for support is also not in your favor.
Turkey is independent until a certain point. One by one with Syria, yes, it is independent. And when the prospect of colliding with a nuclear power loomed, independence began to fade.

[Aleksandr21]

Quote: maidan.izrailovich

Are you really writing this right now?
Constant telephone conversations with Erdogan and Trump in Libya and Syria, just the same refute your words. And Erdogan’s last appeal to NATO for support is also not in your favor.
Turkey is independent until a certain point. One by one with Syria, yes, it is independent. And when the prospect of colliding with a nuclear power loomed, independence began to fade.

Turkey is a member of NATO, and it is natural that in Syria when it has a conflict with the Syrians + us, it wants to enlist the support of the organization in order to put pressure on us. This does not negate its independence. And about Libya, what are NATO's interests there right now? They threw off Gadaffi, and they all forgot about this country, it disappeared from the media altogether and around, there is also no single position where some NATO countries support Haftar and others the Government of National Accord. And Turkey in Libya solely because of its ambitions and interests. The same story in Syria and Idlib.

[Berber]

Washington's dreams come true, about a proxy war. Erdogan is in no way good at all.

[alexmach]

In terms of nothing good shines? Now chop off a piece of Syria. Whatever they want, they chop it off. What is not good then?

[Berber]

We'll nip the tomatoes and close the resorts. Moreover, the war will leave its mark on Turkey's budget. The Sultan's rating will definitely suffer. They can shake the throne against this background. It can chop off a piece of Syria, but it will choke.

[alexmach]

We will pinch tomatoes and close the resorts

Yes, they spat on it. Our vacationers will conquer stronger than the Turks.

Sultan's rating will definitely suffer

One of the two will either suffer or grow. In case of victory. In the meantime, it is not clear what could have prevented this victory.

[Whisper]

I hope our prepared plan B, in case Turkey aggravates?

[Spambox]

Vladimir Putin flew to Sochi on the Tu-214pu-sbus, also taking command, as I understand it.

[slavaseven]

I wonder how far Erdogan will go. We are waiting for his statement today

[Hto tama]

Quote: Sheptun

I hope our prepared plan B, in case Turkey aggravates?

I’m also interested in what actions will be on our part, to tie Turkey economically, as I understand it, it didn’t work, or the Sultan was quite wise. He’s not such a great strategist to play on the contradictions between the Russian Federation and NATO. At least he should understand that NATO will not enter into direct conflict with the Russian Federation, in the event of a sharp aggravation. But the actions of our side are more alarming, the news went through the news that ours stopped shelling of the SAR Armed Forces after militants after the death of the Turkish military, although they should not be there. Does it bother who we support and what will all this lead to? And the statements of Turkish politicians about the closure of the Bosphorus for our ships also do not add optimism.

[SanSanych Gusev]

Sowing will begin soon

[alexmach]

Here I am also interested in what actions will be on our part, to tie Turkey economically as I understand it did not work

Very simple - play back and retreat along with Assad wherever the Turks say.

[maidan.izrailovich]

I hope our prepared plan B, in case Turkey aggravates?

Though "B", even though "C", the problem of the straits will not go anywhere.
In the event of a direct clash with Turkey, the straits will be closed to us. In order to unlock them, one must strike at Turkey itself. And that means running into a conflict with all of NATO. The only question is, are the Russian Armed Forces ready for such a scenario?

[New Year day]

Quote: maidan.izrailovich

... the problem of the straits will not go anywhere.

it’s just the determining one! Without straits there will be no transports to Syria. how long will she last without help by sea?

[Charik]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1a_1BHwywg&t=36s

[cniza]

According to Turkish media, the Turkish Armed Forces can begin active hostilities using existing forces and assets today.

Then there will be a big war ...

[New Year day]

Quote: cniza

then there will be a big war ...

Alas! you're right!

[basmach]

War will be anyway. The only question is where and when will it begin. The world has not fought for a long time. There are practically no those who remember what world war is. And even more so the heads of state. And there is no fear from the use of nuclear weapons. Everything turned into abstract concepts-arrows on maps, calculation tables, etc. Neither reason nor fear have ever stopped humanity from war. There is always someone who believes that he will succeed.

[cniza]

Everything went to computers and it is very dangerous, there is no fear and understanding that few people will survive or even ...

[Aliken]

The Turks lost their scent.

[Charik]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fU8ubzN89kw

[Oleg Kolsky 051]

Well, turretchina is an excellent target for demonstrative nuclear flogging. It was through Turkey, and then Georgia, that financing and supply of spirits in the Caucasus went from 93, not to mention our downed Sushka and helicopters and dead pilots.
So that the accounts are long past due.

[maidan.izrailovich]

Well, turretchina is an excellent target for demonstrative nuclear flogging.

Russia is able to flush Turkey without nuclear weapons.
Is the country's leadership ready for this?

[Oleg Kolsky 051]

Well, at the expense of the fact that the Russian army in a nuclear-free regime is in a position to deal with a country behind NATO, I doubt it.
And how quickly the Kremlin will give the back, and even if our boys who were sent there will die? In Syria, the game initially went with exceptionally high stakes, and you will have to play to increase.

[New Year day]

Quote: Oleg Kolsky 051

... for revealing nuclear flogging.

do not write nonsense!

[Oleg Kolsky 051]

It may be stupid, but such clever people like you will surrender everything, "if only there was no war."

[New Year day]

Quote: Oleg Kolsky 051

and stupidity, but clever people like you will surrender everything, "if only

Though admitted to stupidity, but common sense is not needed?
Sway like reeds in the wind

[Oleg Kolsky 051]

Reed sir is your brains. In which you are ready to bend. Or do you have a burning ticket to Antalya or Bodrum on hand?
Don't mock the mockery under your flexible back.

[New Year day]

Quote: Oleg Kolsky 051

Or do you have a burning ticket to Antalya or Bodrum in your arms?

I was not and I do not want! There is no land beyond Perekop! Life is given once and it must be lived in Crimea!

Quote: Oleg Kolsky 051

change under your flexible back.

osteochondrosis since childhood does not allow this

[Boris55]

Who still has doubts that Turkey is not only a sponsor of terrorism, but also an active participant in it. Vacationers roaming around the resorts of the NATO bloc (Turkey), do you still bring your money to them, so that they would kill our allies and our instructors with your money?

[Professor Preobrazhensky]

Yesterday I bought defiantly six kilograms of Turkish tomatoes and trampled them. Today I’ll buy and trample ... And so I will do until all the tomatoes are over! And in the summer, when I fly on vacation to Turkey - I will buy tomatoes and throw them into the sea. Put an end to the hegemony of Turkish tomatoes!

[Moskovit]

You need to change your nickname to another hero of Dog’s heart. Such conclusions are just for him.

[Professor Preobrazhensky]

I see that for you such a thing as sarcasm is completely unfamiliar!

[New Year day]

Quote: Professor Preobrazhensky

Yesterday I bought defiantly six kilograms of Turkish tomatoes and trampled them

if sarcasm is understandable, if reality is stupidity

[Svetlana]

>>>> Who still has doubts that Turkey is not only a sponsor of terrorism, but also an active participant in it. <<
Everything is clear here.
Conduct a parallel between Idlib and Donbas. Swipe with a "cold" head. Remove propaganda terms about sponsors of terrorism and others.
And then you will see that just as Russia supports Donbas, so Turkey supports Idlib. If we look further, then the victory of the Syrians in the war with Turkey may serve as a trigger for the start of the war of Ukraine against the Donbass.

[Moskovit]

Draw a parallel. In the Donbass roll Russian troops? Maybe you observe observational Russian points there?

[SOF]

Quote: Svetlana

And then you will see that just as Russia supports Donbas, so Turkey supports Idlib

...where did you go...... you don’t see the difference between the bearded opposition head cutters and the Donbass militia? ... remove propaganda terms and draw a parallel with the "cold" head? ......
.... there’s still something smart to say, otherwise my image has blurred .....

[Svetlana]

I said: If you discard the nuances. Clarify: Nuances in the form of religious, local and other customs and deposits.
More recently, in Russia they hung and chopped off their heads. More recently in Russia, all men wore beards. More recently, for religious sins, they anathematized.
Leave aside the appearance and customs of this or that country, and as the incomparable Kozma Prutkov said: "Behold at the root"
But if you are not able to disengage, then this is a different story. Sorry.

[Nick Russ]

,, Conduct the parallel of Idlib and Donbas ,,

In Syria, Russia is on the side of a legitimate and legitimate government. But the opposition and Co. are trying to overthrow this power.

An illegal coup was committed in Ukraine. And power was established, the legitimacy of which, the inhabitants of Donbass did not recognize. Therefore, a civil war broke out.

That is, the situations are diametrically opposite. You just need to think with your own head, not with what you’re trying to do.

[Svetlana]

The nuances in a game on a large chessboard do not matter. After 200 years, they will be forgotten, and history will be taught from textbooks written by the winner.

[Nick Russ]

,, The nuances in the game on a large chessboard do not matter. After 200 years, they will be forgotten, and history will be taught from textbooks written by the winner. ,,


"Tell me, American, what is strength? Is it in money? So my brother says that in money. You have a lot of money, and why? I now think that strength is in truth: whoever has truth is stronger!"

[Svetlana]

A certain eccentric is still fighting for Truth,
True, in his speeches - the truth on a broken penny:
-Pure Truth will triumph over time
If it does the same as an explicit False
...
It was a quote, but "tell me American" I turned a deaf ear.

[Nick Russ]

,, A certain eccentric is still fighting for Truth,
True, in his speeches - the truth on a broken penny:
-Pure Truth will triumph over time
If it does the same as an explicit False,


The point is not what to fight for, but the fact of what to die for.

[Leshy1975]

Quote: Boris55

Who still has doubts that Turkey is not only a sponsor of terrorism, but also an active participant in it. Vacationers roaming around the resorts of the NATO bloc (Turkey), do you still bring your money to them, so that they would kill our allies and our instructors with your money?

Boris, are you annealing again today? And then I'm already all in doubt. But what about the brilliant KhPP on the collapse of the NATO-Turkey alliance by building nuclear power plants, gas pipelines, selling the S-400, etc. What do you want to say that the most ingenious megastrateg of all times and peoples, all this time not only to the sponsors of terrorism, but also

its active participant

helped? !!!!

PS Where is this World heading. Boris, please stop! But with such statements you cast a shadow on you know who, because it turns out that you yourself know who made a whole chain of strategic miscalculations!
But you yourself have convinced us for many years, how wise and cool you yourself know who, in foreign policy (and not only).

[Vitaly L]

Evgeny Yanovich Satanovsky said that this year it’s not necessary to go to Turkey to rest .... True, I live next to China. Vladivostok. For 6as Turkey is not relevant ...

[protoss]

oh these famous Wuhan motels, I envy

[Professor Preobrazhensky]

I live in Crimea, and the North wind today ...
Please do not deliver a nuclear strike on Turkey before changing the direction of the wind.
We are separated by only 263 km, and so I want to spend the weekend with my family, and not in the circle of deactivators.
And then here the inhabitants of the Far North and Siberia will catch up and let's voice the proposal on a nuclear strike against NATO country

[Horon]

Do you live in Crimea? Another "daughter of a Russian officer"?

[Professor Preobrazhensky]

Is the international center for daughters of officers of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation located in Crimea?

[Horon]

Yes, from the 14th year they have been broadcasting from there, though when you punch through ip, alas, it’s not Crimea, not a daughter, and they have a very distant relationship with Russia, so they are on the same planet.

[Professor Preobrazhensky]

Puncher you my Ai-written!
Crimea is not recognized by the international community, including representatives of telecommunications services in Russia. We do not have providers and mobile communications on the mainland. Our local providers are Miranda-Media, Wave-Mobile, SevStar SkyNet, etc. go through the Krasnodar Territory otherwise we will have blocking services due to sanctions !!!

[Horon]

Crimeans come out with Ukrainian ip! So you got the "expert"! I myself have left the Crimea more than once and I know which ip are located there. Write further "officer's daughter".

[Professor Preobrazhensky]

Here is a screenshot at the moment from the navigator and here is an instant photo of this intersection.
I'm heading to Balaclava.
And to be honest, it is touched by people who prove to me that I'm not from Sevastopol!

[Horon]

Then it’s strange that I don’t know the fact of the Ukrainian location of Crimean Internet providers.

[Professor Preobrazhensky]

With some treacherous stubbornness, you are trying to tell me how you think I should be here! Don't you find this strange enough?

[Horon]

I am Crimean

[Paul Siebert]

I live in Crimea, and the North wind today ...

The north wind is the one that blows from the north.
Remember the mnemonic rule of navigators: "the wind blows into the compass, and the current flows from the compass."
So today you need to be afraid of the northern currents on the Black Sea.
And tomorrow, if the south wind blows, be afraid of it ... [Quote] [/ quote]

[Fat]

Quote: Professor Preobrazhensky

I live in Crimea, and today the North wind ...
Please do not deliver a nuclear strike on Turkey before changing the direction of the wind.

The north wind is the wind that blows from the NORTH. The movement of air masses from south to north is the South wind))))

[Svetlana]

The only question is: This is an unexpected plot twist, or a calculated version of events.
General Staff calculated calculated of course.

[trophy]

These are the consequences of someone's empty words "They won't get off with tomatoes." As it turned out in reality, we got off. This is if you do not recall the situation with Ambassador Karlov. And impunity breeds permissiveness. In the event that Turkey starts hostilities against the SAR, reputational costs are inevitable for Russia, or does someone think that we will intervene? By the way, this week the Ministry of Agriculture increased the import quota for Turkish tomatoes to 200 thousand tons. Hurray, go ahead.

[polar fox]

Quote: Trofim

Ministry of Agriculture increased the quota for the import of Turkish tomatoes to 200 thousand tons. Urya, go ahead.

that’s how they import them both from Azerbaijan, Armenia, Moldova ... true, Turkish tomatoes, only the labels change.

[JonnyT]

So the dress rehearsal of the great war begins.
We can draw an analogy with the Korean confrontation between the USSR and the USA.

[Charik]

for those who - all cartoons https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qSkDi-FkP8&list=WL&index=21&t=172s

[Professor Preobrazhensky]

Want to burn out in a nuclear apocalypse?

[Charik]

and who doesn’t want? but it’s necessary, people are fighting all their existence on Earth, at the given moment they’ve done such killing sticks that they’ll burn, well, maybe some animals will survive

[Olya Tsako]

Disguised as Turkish terrorists, sent to the Hurias, were they urgently enlisted in the Turkish army? With this provocation, the Janissaries artificially, cunning and deceit, as in the 16 previous wars with Russia, create "Casus Belli", for the DECEPTION of WORLD OPINION.

[anjey]

The head of the Turkish Ministry of Defense, Hulusi Akar, after consulting with representatives of other NATO countries, announced that he would personally lead the Turkish military operation against the Syrian government forces in Idlib.

That is, it will carry out aggression against a sovereign state, here is really the long-suffering Syria, from all sides the jackal is flocking in packs, if Vanga’s prophecies come true, Europe and the United States can really expect a cold nuclear winter, or the adherents of the Bubble hope that Russia will always bend and surrender as always all positions ??? Then its collapse is definitely inevitable, even if it smells of great political and military bluffs in the World, the stakes are very high .....

[aszzz888]

Statements by terrorists that they got "tons of weapons and ammunition of the regime as trophies" appeared on the network.

Explicitly overdo the perfume. If something happened, then a little, and then what the ATS fighters threw.

[Ramadan]

Quote: maidan.izrailovich

I hope our prepared plan B, in case Turkey aggravates?

Though "B", even though "C", the problem of the straits will not go anywhere.
In the event of a direct clash with Turkey, the straits will be closed to us. In order to unlock them, one must strike at Turkey itself. And that means running into a conflict with all of NATO. The only question is, are the Russian Armed Forces ready for such a scenario?

I think that no matter what happens in Syria, no one will strike on the territory of Turkey from the Russian Federation. Turkey does not bomb Russia. Everything will remain within the borders of Syria. There will be nothing outside, both presidents understand that otherwise it will lead to a global catastrophe and financial losses will seem like flowers.

[mvg]

Where are urya patriots? With angry chants: Throw all the hats?

[Nastia makarova]

Two frigates of the Russian Federation with the "Caliber" entered the Bosphorus and the Dardanelles

[protoss]

so in the bosphorus or dardanelles?

[Nastia makarova]

what trolling? went into the straits if it is clearer

[mvg]

Nastya, you were asked a question. Take the trouble to scratch the onion, who will * calibrate *? Horror what

[Yuyuka]

Quote: mvg

Where are urya patriots? With angry chants: Throw all the hats?

now it's your turn - the "all-propals" ...

[open]

If the situation goes according to a bad scenario, what will the Americans do?
Watching the situation, Iraq will close the sky to cut back on logistics.
Turcib will help (not direct)
when the parties are exhausted, they themselves will enter the war against the SAA

[colonel2001]

The Turkish military, who fell under the shelling of Russian aviation on February 27, were in militant units. This was announced on Friday, February 28, by the Russian Ministry of Defense.

“According to the coordinates provided by the Turkish side to the Russian Center for Reconciliation, there were no and should not be any units of the Turkish armed forces in the area of ​​Behun,” the ministry said. In the area of ​​the settlement of Behun, where, according to official information, the Turkish military should have been, aircraft were not used.

The ministry also emphasized that as soon as the Russian military received information about the injured representatives of the Turkish army, measures were taken to ensure that the Syrian side completely ceases fire. The wounded Turkish military were evacuated to their homeland.

https://iz.ru/981157/2020-02-28/minoborony-rossii-soobshchilo-o-popavshikh-pod-obstrel-vmeste-s-boevikami-turetckikh-voennykh

[opuonmed]

if the Russian Federation departs from Syria there will be a failure in everything! shas turkey opened borders eu presses on the Russian Federation the main thing the Russian Federation does not bend the United States helps Turkey

[Nastia makarova]

Two frigates of the Russian Federation with the "Caliber" entered the Bosphorus

[faterdom]

Quote: maidan.izrailovich

In the event of a direct clash with Turkey, the straits will be closed to us. In order to unlock them, one must strike at Turkey itself. And that means running into a conflict with all of NATO. The only question is, are the Russian Armed Forces ready for such a scenario?

Only Turkey, in order to close the straits, must declare war on Russia. They cannot be closed for another reason. And here even doubts do not tempt me - NATO will not stick its head into this noose, expressing concern and calling for a settlement.

[protoss]

there should not, should declare itself in military danger from Syria. this is enough to close the strait for the Syrian courts and the courts of countries supporting Syria.

[colonel2001]

According to the Turkish defense minister, on Thursday he discussed with his Russian counterpart the opening of airspace for his attack drones, but no progress was made in these negotiations. It is known that attempts to use UAVs have already been undertaken. Syrian television on Tuesday published footage of the most powerful attack drone in Turkey - Anka-S, one and a half-ton that fell in Idlib. According to the press service of the Syrian Defense Ministry, the UAV was shot down by government air defense systems.

The rate of accumulation of Turkish troops fell slightly, but another 400 commandos entered Syria on Thursday night. On social networks, photos also appeared of transferring Atilgan air defense systems equipped with Stinger short-range missiles to Idlib.

https://iz.ru/980966/anton-lavrov/dolina-pretknoveniia-v-siriiskom-idlibe-osvobozhdena-krovavaia-ravnina

[Guards turn]

The Sochi agreements did not at all imply the rejection, occupation of Idlib by Turkey ... these agreements gave Turkey a term, eliminate terrorists in any way possible, make Idlib ready for peaceful integration into Syria, through the elections ... the deadline has passed, and things are still there, with Idlib’s territories are regularly flown by drones to our base, Aleppo is constantly in attacks, the UN Security Council has recognized terrorists Jehab al Nusra as unarmed ... Snot with bubbles, apparently doesn’t scare either the Syrians, much less us ... it remains only to start fighting seriously or return to touch the letter of the Sochi accords and to wet the terrorists, otherwise the Turks will be wet ...
The domestic political situation in Turkey is such that dozens, and in the event of a serious war and thousands of corpses, the Erdogan regime simply cannot stand it ...

[protoss]

the Sochi agreements were mutual, for stopping strikes on the de-escalation zone, the Turks had to do this and that in terms of time. Asadovites did not stop artillery and air strikes for a single day, respectively, the Turks did not begin to fulfill their obligations.
the way these agreements are submitted to us is more like the surrender of Turkey (they owe us a lot of things, and we don’t have anything to them), which was not mentioned.

[Guards turn]

For Erdogan, everything will end very badly if he continues to send his soldiers to slaughter and does not turn on his head.

[protoss]

I think they have a large psychological margin of safety and they are ready for victims of hundreds or even thousands of people, this will only increase the intensity and fierceness, and also remove any moral restrictions on the mass extermination of the pro-Assad minder in the same Latakia. in what, and it’s hard to suspect the softness of the Turks.

[Guards turn]

This is the Turks have not yet received a normal response. Now everything is just beginning.

[Ramadan]

"... the Assad men did not stop art and air strikes for a single day ..."
But how can they be stopped if the barmalei keep shelling and attacking all the time, relying on this particular scenario?
So the agreement was signed in Sochi from the very beginning practically unattainable. But the attempt is not torture, alas, it did not work out.
The most important thing for us is that there would be no loss on our part in such a batch.

[protoss]

so they answered not towards shelling, but beat through the cities in the depths of the idib. in fact, according to this logic, it is possible to say that the Greens responded to the bombing, but no one has a minute-by-minute chronology where it is written who is first and who is in response.
the fact that no one was going to observe anything, it was immediately clear.

[Ramadan]

They beat not just the cities around Idlib anyhow, but for specific purposes.
And if no one was going to observe anything, then the agreement was initially not feasible.

[protoss]

there, on settlements regularly flew in, every day for several people (sometimes tens) of civilians killed.
in such a movie as the Turks have shown us in recent days with pinpoint strikes, neither the Asadites, nor we particularly bother.

[Ramadan]

It is clear that civilians are perishing along the way. But they don’t do carpet bombing.
There Americans in the city of Raqqa walked like a bulldozer and nothing, no one was indignant.
And the picture doesn’t really matter, it’s shown for the game to the public.

[v.biseroff]

Until the Turkish Air Force’s planes crossed the borders with Syria, until the block of Turkish posts was razed to the ground, while the presidents called each other, there was hope that they had some kind of plan to annihilate the crowds of barmalei interfering with Us and the Turks. No Russian-Turkish war we don’t need absolutely. We need moderately strong and loyal to us Syria. We are ready to help her diplomatically and with arms. We are fighting for the destruction of all the barmales in Syria and here we are allies with Assad completely. On the whole territory of Syria except the Russian Aerospace Forces and the Syrian Air Force nobody summer it can’t (drones do not count) - this is an agreement. We can’t directly engage in clashes with the Turkish army - this is also an agreement. So that the Turks dress the barmaley in their uniforms is either a trick or an insidious plan. If all the agreements will be respected by the Turks there is no chance of either winning Idlib or removing Assad or stopping Russia from destroying absolutely all the bandits in Idlib and subsequently organizing either the next rescue of Erdogan or his escape from his country closer to Yanukovych, depending on how the card falls. If Erdogan violates the agreement we and it’s also our right to violate, and besides, the Kurdish question is a trump card in our sleeve and not in Turkish. Russia's actions should not bear an emotional background but as a well-calculated cold calculation. We are fighting with the USA for the right to be an international gendarme and this is a completely different level military and political games.