Brain Drain: Where the Solution Is


The brain drain problem, once again raised in an interview with TASS with Russian President Vladimir Putin, is the departure of scientists, highly qualified specialists and simply promising young people from our country who seek to find, if not happiness, then at least stability and prosperity, which has remained relevant for many years .


The methods proposed by the head of state deserve attention, of course, but it would be naive to believe that the slow flow of Russia's future abroad can be prevented by administrative or even economic methods.

First of all, the president himself admitted: not a single method of influence on this issue, apart from the pluses, is also without the minuses, sometimes not immediately manifesting themselves. His example with civil aviation, an increase in salaries in which led to the outflow of combat pilots from the airborne forces, who happily changed the controls of fighters or bombers to places in the cockpit of passenger airliners, is very revealing. Alas, the proverb mentioned by the president about fish looking for where deeper, has proved its relevance for centuries. However, do we, the descendants of the victors and great creators, really want to finally slide down to a “fishy” attitude towards life, measuring all values ​​in it exclusively with the amount of “feed”?

Without a doubt, improving wages in proportion to their qualifications, complexity, and intelligence is the first task for any state, especially for one that does not want to degrade or stagnate, but strives for development. Including economic, technical, innovative. However, it is worth remembering that in the present world in most cases there will always be corporations, states and other structures capable of offering more. Let's not forget that, in addition to Russian “brains”, brainy guys from all over the world are flocking to the same USA, Canada, Singapore, Australia. Including from those of its corners where salaries are much higher than domestic. From Eastern Europe, the living standards of some countries of which is a dream for many Russians, they are fleeing to the “long euro” to Germany, France, and Scandinavia. You can’t outbid everyone, and is it necessary?

A diametrically different approach, not without irony called by the president “to keep and not let go”, has long shown its low viability. Well, except that we can get a new “iron curtain” in the kit ... On the other hand, with Putin’s words about the need to demand from those who have received popular and promising specialties at public expense that it’s difficult to argue at least the cost of their own training. High-quality education all over the world is expensive, and allowing those who received it free of charge (in fact, at the expense of their own compatriots who do not tear “over the hill” in search of paradise, but work and pay taxes in Russia), to enrich completely different potentials for young people, including states unfriendly to us, Russia acts, to put it mildly, short-sighted.

In the light of this, the idea of ​​burdening graduates of the same medical universities with additional obligations does not look bad: they have unlearned - work out. However, such an approach will be effective only if the state has, in addition to a whip, a rather attractive carrot in the arsenal. For example, providing young professionals with especially sought-after occupations of housing, which they can occupy after working for a year, but call their property ten years after diligent work. This is only one of the options, however, all over the world it’s precisely these “traps” of a social character for retaining valuable personnel that are used even more effectively than a simple increase in salaries.

And one more point to mention which would be fundamentally wrong. The fact that the majority of those who go abroad to a more or less permanent place of residence are people with higher education, in general, is natural. The smarter and more learned, the more relevant, respectively. However, there is also a “double bottom" that we do not like to talk about (as is usually the case with shameful things). Alas, it so happened that the education system in Russia has been largely left to the people who have very definite outlooks on life and on our country. I will not give here the specific names of professors and other figures called to “sow the rational, the good, the eternal,” which were fully noted by frankly Russophobic rhetoric - they are already well known. That's where you need to look for the reason that many graduates of domestic universities leave them with a firm belief that in their native land, in principle, "there is nothing to catch."

In this state of affairs, it is not surprising that we are able to learn a qualified engineer, doctor or pilot, but to educate a true patriot who is ready to share not only her victories, but also her hardships with her Motherland .. somehow not very .. The problem is not that the Russian people want to earn more, but that they are ready to flee abroad in search of a more satisfying share, should their homeland enter one or another “turbulence band”. The fight against brain drain must begin with the battle for souls.
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  1. Professor Preobrazhensky 28 February 2020 08: 08 New
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    It was necessary from their own powerful appointees to achieve the implementation of their own May decrees ...
    1. kjhg 28 February 2020 08: 23 New
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      Right mile from the talk of the authorities about caring for the homeland. Well done, well done. True patriots, you cannot say otherwise. Only now they somehow are silent that their own children almost completely went over the hill to live, and many received citizenship of enemy countries. And the officials themselves have taken so MUCH money and continue to export it from Russia that their talk about patriotism can cause nothing but a smile from an adequate person.
      1. nickname7 28 February 2020 09: 00 New
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        and many received the citizenship of enemy countries.

        as an example - a British presenter on Russian TV.

        1. antivirus 28 February 2020 09: 22 New
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          he is an SVR agent without cover, he needs a British citizen to work
        2. CSKA 28 February 2020 11: 32 New
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          Quote: nickname7
          as an example - a British presenter on Russian TV.

          )))) An example of what? Is he an official?
      2. New Year day 28 February 2020 09: 03 New
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        Quote: kjhg
        .... their talk about patriotism can cause nothing but a smile for an adequate person.

        1. CSKA 28 February 2020 12: 57 New
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          ))))) Well, of course. Why sort it out ?! It’s easier to call a person a pseudo-patriot like you immediately. Well, of course, you have the Communists, if a person bought a house abroad, or God forbid, sent a child to study abroad, then immediately a traitor. Here is your shoveling delusional logic. But you are true patriots, that's just what you patriots did in the 91st?
          If you are not able to read a sylvester, I’ll explain something other than pictures in a couple of words.
          Peskov’s third wife would probably have the right to obtain US citizenship, as with their first husband, they bought real estate in New York, and her daughter has US citizenship, because born there. Here are just a photo of the US passport of the figure skater Tatyana Navka here.
          Peskov's second wife is a French citizen, as are her children from Peskov. That's just what he had to do after a divorce from his wife? Handcuffing her and her children to a battery and not allowing her ex-wife to leave for France with her children? And at the same time the passport of the son of Peskov with SK citizenship to the studio.
          Come on sylvester don't be shy.
          1. New Year day 28 February 2020 13: 33 New
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            Quote: CSKA
            Well of course you have the Communists

            never been
            Quote: CSKA
            And at the same time the passport of the son of Peskov with SK citizenship to the studio.
            Come on sylvester don't be shy.

            Peskov did not find a passport, but there is another patriot laughing

            Quote: CSKA
            Well, of course, you have the Communists, if a person bought a house abroad, or God forbid, sent a child to study abroad, then immediately a traitor.

            a traitor is not a traitor. but then let it not go into the power of Russia and does not teach me how to live

            And remember Brzezinski!

            laughing
            1. CSKA 29 February 2020 11: 36 New
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              ))))) Now I almost fell off laughing.
              Quote: Silvestr
              Peskov did not find a passport, but there is another patriot

              Of course not found. You are only capable of placing pictures and shouting that all our power and their children are in the west. And as it comes to the evidence, you immediately raise breeches with your little hands.
              Nightingale is a journalist, not a politician. And it is no secret that he is a resident. For your information in many countries, if you buy real estate in a country, then you become a resident of this country. And this is only with your soviet mentality if a person bought a house somewhere abroad means he is not a patriot at once.
              Quote: Silvestr
              a traitor is not a traitor. but then let it not go into the power of Russia and does not teach me how to live

              So he does not climb into power. He is a journalist. And he does not teach you to live, but expresses his opinion. I will reveal to you the secret of Sylvester. Just don’t tell anyone. On the remote control from the TV there are a lot of buttons with numbers. If you turn on Russia 1, and there Soloviev, you can click on another button and switch to another channel.
              About the next names that you wrote there. Yet again. Evidence in the studio, not idle chatter and pictures.
              And you seem to poorly understand what the elite are and confuse the establishment with the elite. The oligarch, like any businessman, can save his money wherever he wants, but he is not the establishment, he is not in power.
      3. Victor N 28 February 2020 09: 21 New
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        Why all the officials in one pile? People are all different. You cannot hold children by the handle. Removal of funds is generally a separate issue. Out of place ...
      4. Malyuta 28 February 2020 09: 29 New
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        Quote: kjhg
        Right mile from the talk of the authorities about caring for the homeland

        Quote: kjhg
        that their own children then almost without exception went abroad to live, and many received citizenship of enemy countries. Yes, and the officials themselves took so much money and continue to export it from Russia that their talk about patriotism can cause nothing but a smile from an adequate person.

        In the morning I smear a sandwich -
        Immediately thought: what about the people?
        And the caviar does not climb into the throat,
        And the compote does not pour in your mouth! (C)
        At this stage, the state is doing everything to ensure that educated people and young people in particular leave the country. Personally, I get the impression that this is done intentionally, that is, unbearable conditions are created for living in this territory. People clearly understand the message of power that we are superfluous. I don’t take life in the capitals, but life in Zamkadye is hell. And the shame of a huge country in the 21st century .. Broken education, science, medicine,, motherhood institutions and childhood, infrastructure, lack of social protection and 180 slave (now enshrined in the constitution) dollars in salary in the future, bureaucratic lawlessness, theft, embezzlement, lack of social elevators, inaccessible higher education, which of the following can cause delight among young people? It causes a depressive mood and hopelessness. No litter-TV with a variety of evening and morning M, living by the way in the decaying west will not be able to replace and replace everyday reality. Targeted squeezing of the most educated and thinking population and genocide for the rest is the reality of the Russian Federation of the 21st century.
        1. CSKA 28 February 2020 13: 32 New
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          Quote: Malyuta
          . I don’t take life in the capitals, but life in Zamkadye is hell. And the shame of a huge country

          Here is something like hell in Krasnodar that is already a construction boom. What people buy apartments and cars. It’s such a hell that we’re standing in endless traffic jams, that there’s nowhere to even park a car near the house because we bought foreign cars.)))) And Rostov, Simferopol, Volgograd, Kazan, Yekaterinburg live in the same hell. In general, all the cities where I was and where my friends live.
          Quote: Malyuta
          Defeated formation

          It can be seen.
          Russian schoolchildren won 58 medals at the 7th International Joutykov Olympiad in Physics, Mathematics, and Computer Science in Alma-Ata. At the International Informatics Tournament (IATI) for students in grades 11–37 in Bulgaria, Russian students won 91 out of 2019 medals. Russian students won five gold medals at the Mathematics Olympiad in China. ITMO graduate student Gennady Korotkevich won the US Programming Championship. The Russian team took first place in the team event at the World Robot Olympiad (WRO) 15 robotics competitions. The closing ceremony of the 13th International Astronomical Olympiad was held in the Romanian city of Piatra Neamt. Russian students won 14 medals. Russian schoolchildren won 4 medals at the Romanian Master of Informatics international olympiad. Russian students took second place in the team event at the European Junior Olympiad in Informatics (eJOI) in Slovenia. The Russian national team won 4 gold, 25 silver, 45 bronze medals and 2019 medal medals for professionalism at the XNUMXth WorldSkillsKazan XNUMX professional championship, securing a second place in the medal standings. The first place went to the Chinese team, and the third to the South Korean team.
          Just victims of the exam.
          Built 111 quantoriums and a bunch of schools.
          Quote: Malyuta
          science, medicine

          What are you? Here, I won’t even go over everything. There is simply not enough space to write everything.
          modern medicine - both in the USSR and in the 90s - existed in single copies in the walls of medical research institutes and leading clinics. In the format of urgent assistance throughout the country, it was almost completely absent. Patients in life-threatening conditions that require immediate qualified medical intervention, for example, after severe injuries, heart attacks and strokes, had practically no opportunity to receive modern medical care, which in many cases can save them life and health.
          Only in 2008, with the advent of vascular and trauma centers dispersed throughout the country, the service of specialized emergency medical care began to be created in Russia, transferring the capabilities of elite clinics to mass medical practice. Last year, 656 primary vascular departments and regional vascular centers operated in the country. Re-equipment and retooling of these centers are ongoing, which expands their capabilities. As a result, only in 2018, mortality from myocardial infarction and stroke in Russia decreased by 7,3 and 3,6%, respectively.
          In total, 1085 medical institutions today provide high-tech medical care (VMP) - three times more than in 2012. In 2017, 1,047 million patients were able to get VMP, and in 2018 - already 1,131 million, including 305 thousand inhabitants of the village.

          So what is Malyuta? And then you want the brochures that you were given to the Communist Party of the Russian Federation or liberal clowns to broadcast nonsense on your hackneyed stamps? You want and I can answer the rest nonsense.
      5. Yrec 28 February 2020 09: 54 New
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        The bureaucrats who have a brain drain of half a lemon and above, plus a bunch of buns are surprised at the brain drain. Indeed, and why leave if everything is so good with us? I have a wife, a federal official with 20 years of experience who has reached the top of the career ladder (in the province) receives 30 tyr per month integrally with all the bonuses, despite the fact that she has a huge load and responsibility. And we have it below the average RFP in the subject. Pay a normal salary, bills, and there will be no leakage.
        1. DMB 75 28 February 2020 10: 16 New
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          Quote: Yrec
          Pay a normal salary, bills, and there will be no leakage.

          Yes, it is. Officials do not offend their beloved ones in the material plan. I can’t blame people who leave without seeing any prospects for themselves. Create normal conditions, pay money worthy of scientific work and nobody will go for a better life to search.
        2. CSKA 28 February 2020 13: 01 New
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          Quote: Yrec
          The bureaucrats who have a brain drain of half a lemon and above, plus a bunch of buns are surprised at the brain drain. Indeed, and why leave if everything is so good with us? I have a wife, a federal official with 20 years of experience who has reached the top of the career ladder (in the province) receives 30 tyr per month integrally with all the bonuses, despite the fact that she has a huge load and responsibility. And we have it below the average RFP in the subject. Pay a normal salary, bills, and there will be no leakage.

          Sheer nonsense.
          1. A brain drain is a trip abroad of highly qualified personnel (engineers, programmers, technologists, architects, designers). And here is your official wife with her low salary?
          2.Not the state should pay salaries to specialists, unless they work in a government structure.
          3. Highly qualified specialists receive high salaries in the Russian Federation.
      6. CSKA 28 February 2020 11: 31 New
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        Quote: kjhg
        Only now they somehow are silent that their own children almost completely went over the hill to live, and many received citizenship of enemy countries

        Well, let’s give the names of these officials and their children and where they live.
    2. lucul 28 February 2020 09: 24 New
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      Brain Drain: Where the Solution Is

      Yes, the solution lies on the surface - it is necessary to clean our universities, from teachers of foreign agents. They are the forge of cadres of our elite. Indeed, the worldview of future leaders of the country / enterprises will depend on how you bring them up. This is well shown in the series Sleepers.
      It’s no secret that there is such a saying - if you want to defeat the enemy - educate his children. And we abandoned this moment CRIMINALLY, even under Khrushchov, allowing the teacher-agents to bring up Russophobia in the hearts of the future elite. Ie giving the education of their own children to the enemy. And now we are surprised at the brain drain, like small children.
      Now, in the constitution they want to spell out the state-forming role of the Russian ethnos in the formation of the state. But they completely forget that with us all the teachers, intellectuals, cultural figures / creative elite are completely non-Russian.
      So far, our teachers will not educate our children, and in the interests of Russia, there will be no great Russia.
      In KVN very subtly noticed)))
      1. Erich 28 February 2020 09: 33 New
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        It turns out who is to blame, teachers of foreign agents. Clear.
        1. lucul 28 February 2020 09: 37 New
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          It turns out who is to blame, teachers of foreign agents. Clear.

          Well, let's "Akhejaknete" something else.)))
          1. Erich 28 February 2020 09: 41 New
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            Well, what can I say, it’s wonderful that the situation speaks for itself))
        2. Vladimir B. 28 February 2020 13: 04 New
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          Quote: Erich
          It turns out who is to blame, teachers of foreign agents.

          No. Those who dress up as a patriot are to blame. The traitor, dressed as a patriot, is worse than the enemy. You know the enemy in the face and he, the enemy, does not hide. The internal enemy, hiding under the guise of a patriot, is especially dangerous, because he is more sophisticated, he acts out of the fray, he is capable of much more than a simple enemy. No wonder during the Great Patriotic War traitors were hanged, not shot.
      2. Wolverine 28 February 2020 12: 10 New
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        Quote: lucul
        Brain Drain: Where the Solution Is

        Yes, the solution lies on the surface - it is necessary to clean our universities, from teachers of foreign agents. They are the forge of cadres of our elite. Indeed, the worldview of future leaders of the country / enterprises will depend on how you bring them up. This is well shown in the series Sleepers.
        It’s no secret that there is such a saying - if you want to defeat the enemy - educate his children. And we abandoned this moment CRIMINALLY, even under Khrushchov, allowing the teacher-agents to bring up Russophobia in the hearts of the future elite. Ie giving the education of their own children to the enemy. And now we are surprised at the brain drain, like small children.
        Now, in the constitution they want to spell out the state-forming role of the Russian ethnos in the formation of the state. But they completely forget that with us all the teachers, intellectuals, cultural figures / creative elite are completely non-Russian.
        So far, our teachers will not educate our children, and in the interests of Russia, there will be no great Russia.
        In KVN very subtly noticed)))


        I agree my children have come across this, many teachers put sticks in the wheels in defense of scientific work, and there is nothing to say about the recruitment of gifted students for an internship in the USA.
      3. Evgeny Goncharov (smoogg) 28 February 2020 20: 05 New
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        Math teachers immediately to the camps. Zepa not to be considered.
        1. lucul 28 February 2020 20: 28 New
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          Math teachers immediately to the camps. Zepa not to be considered.

          But is it really Putin who is to blame for the brain drain? ))))
          1. Evgeny Goncharov (smoogg) 28 February 2020 20: 30 New
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            The people were again bad, they’ve already sorted out.
            1. lucul 28 February 2020 20: 30 New
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              The people were again bad, they’ve already sorted out.

              Haifa hello ....
              1. Evgeny Goncharov (smoogg) 28 February 2020 20: 31 New
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                In Devyatkino light snow. Give Haifa yourself, the earth is round.
                1. lucul 28 February 2020 20: 33 New
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                  In Devyatkino light snow.

                  Did relatives speak on the phone? )))
  2. Alex66 28 February 2020 08: 08 New
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    It is not difficult for the United States to ruin Russia, it is enough to direct part of the military budget to export brains and hands from our country, this will lead to the degradation of our industry and management in 5-10 years. It will not work to contrast something within the framework of the capitalist model of development; only the socialist model can save it. It is strange why the United States does not use this method, it is cleaner than any sanctions.
    1. Doctor 28 February 2020 09: 08 New
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      It is not difficult for the United States to destroy Russia, it is enough to direct part of the military budget to export brains and hands from our country, this will lead to the degradation of our industry and management in 5-10 years.

      I read somewhere that there was such a plan. True, the author was the British, almost Thatcher herself.
      General idea: to offer couples up to 30 years old from the remote places of immigration to Latin America. Lifting - $ 100. According to their calculations, in order to drive out the Russian village, 000 million families had to be taken out. But something did not grow together with them.
      Yes and whether it is necessary - and so last year 150 left. And there were 000.
  3. apro 28 February 2020 08: 14 New
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    Here it is. Attack on personal freedom ??? Bloody scoop again ??? And where is the life-giving hand of the market ??? Which will solve all the problems of being ...
    What does it mean to impose restrictions on emigration? And what did they fight for?
    1. YOUR 28 February 2020 08: 32 New
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      To begin with, let them impose a ban on emigration of capital and dual citizenship.
      As an example, I. Rodnina, who lived in the USA since 1990, has US citizenship and suddenly an ardent member of the EP, a State Duma deputy, periodically receives the highest Russian awards (for what ???????????).
      Overly double standards by the author
      1. New Year day 28 February 2020 09: 02 New
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        Quote: YOUR
        To begin with, let them impose a ban on emigration of capital and dual citizenship.


        start with your neighbor ....
      2. Erich 28 February 2020 09: 08 New
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        And what is wrong with emigration of capital? provided that the businessman honestly earned money, he can withdraw it wherever he wants.
    2. Malyuta 28 February 2020 09: 32 New
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      Quote: apro
      What does it mean to impose restrictions on emigration? And what did they fight for?

      This means feudalism, slavery, serfdom, developed Putinism, however.
      1. apro 28 February 2020 09: 44 New
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        It means

        It means that today Russia, represented by the government, cannot or does not want to organize the economy face to face. Moreover, this news is nothing more than a shock of air ... also will not lead to any consequences.
  4. fleks 28 February 2020 08: 16 New
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    many graduates of domestic universities leave them with a firm belief that in their native land, in principle, "there is nothing to catch."
    And do you think you need to work for free, and even without prospects to live up to retirement?
    1. New Year day 28 February 2020 09: 01 New
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      Quote: fleks
      many graduates of domestic universities leave them with a firm belief that in their native land, in principle, "there is nothing to catch."

      but there's really nothing to catch. Evidence - the outflow of doctors from the epiphery to large cities, incl. To Moscow. And where did the Moscow doctors go? - Over the hill!
      1. fleks 28 February 2020 09: 26 New
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        I completely agree with you. I know the problem of the outflow of our pilots abroad. You will not believe it, but the main reason for their departure is not material. but in the fact that beyond the hillock the attitude towards them is as it should be. to people and not slaves. plus the conditions of work and rest that were observed with us only during the Soviet Union.
      2. Doctor 28 February 2020 09: 34 New
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        but there's really nothing to catch. Evidence - the outflow of doctors from the epiphery to large cities, incl. To Moscow. And where did the Moscow doctors go? - Over the hill!

        Yes sir. Over the hill, too, is not all right. The turn to the psychiatrist in Germany is 2 months. German arzty also tossed into the states. wink
        1. New Year day 28 February 2020 10: 03 New
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          Quote: Arzt
          German arzty also tossed into the states.

          Not only Germans. Spain had the best transplantology in the world, after the past crisis, many rushed to the States
      3. AU Ivanov. 28 February 2020 10: 29 New
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        The outflow was before, under the Union. A rare doctor from the outback did not dream of working in Moscow or St. Petersburg. Young people left the villages in batches for the cities, 5 people left my class in the village, the rest left. They didn’t go abroad, it was extremely difficult to do.
        1. New Year day 28 February 2020 10: 42 New
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          Quote: AU Ivanov.
          A rare doctor from the outback did not dream of working in Moscow

          Dreaming was not bad, but .... Residence permit! Without Moscow or Moscow Region, these were just dreams.
  5. The leader of the Redskins 28 February 2020 08: 18 New
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    Lord Well, why are there so many abstruse words with a pensive facial expression? !! After all, the answer to the surface is to increase the TOTAL welfare of the entire population !!!
    Even if you collect all the minds in one place and provide them with the conditions of life and work, all the same, against the background of the poverty of their friends, relatives and so on, they will not feel comfortable, at the same time aware of their temporality. And if a person sees smiling faces around him, feels social protection, then he is not looking for the best! There was an example - the USSR. Units of millions sought to the West, and then from their own, mercantile - political interests!
    1. Salty 28 February 2020 08: 37 New
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      Quote: Leader of the Redskins
      After all, the answer to the surface is to increase the TOTAL welfare of the entire population !!!

      And you yourself, to warm the apartment, also heat the street?

      Quote: Leader of the Redskins
      There was an example - the USSR. Units of millions sought to the West

      In the USSR there was a closed border and closed cities with special supplies for the elite.
      1. Victor N 28 February 2020 09: 31 New
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        Where do such places find that "poverty" creeps into my eyes? Still, this is now a very rare occurrence. If you saw - no need to lament, help in silence.
    2. Pessimist22 28 February 2020 08: 37 New
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      But were borders opened in the USSR?
    3. nickname7 28 February 2020 09: 08 New
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      all the same, against the background of the poverty of their friends, relatives and so on, they will not feel comfortable, at the same time realizing their temporality.

      A comfortable environment must be created for increased taxes from the rich. In the Russian Federation they do not want to introduce progress, they say tax evasion will begin, but as practice shows, the rich prefer to pay progressive taxes in other countries than to live in their poor country.
    4. AU Ivanov. 28 February 2020 09: 18 New
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      Emigrating from the USSR was not an easy task. It was simply difficult to leave it; an EXIT VISA was needed, which was not the case in any civilized state. I wonder what the leadership of the Union was afraid of? What all amicably drape to the West from the "best state in the world of workers and peasants?"
    5. Serg65 28 February 2020 10: 30 New
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      Quote: Leader of the Redskins
      There was an example - the USSR. Units of millions sought to the West

      laughing Smiled, really, smiled ...
      1. victor50 28 February 2020 12: 39 New
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        Quote: Serg65
        There was an example - the USSR. Units of millions sought to the West

        Smiled, really, smiled ...

        Provide other data. Do you think everyone was torn from the country? Many of your classmates, classmates left? Now, after all, there is an opportunity .. Of the hundreds of my friends, not a single one. Only three daughters.
        1. Serg65 28 February 2020 12: 59 New
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          Quote: victor50
          Many of your classmates, classmates left?

          Two of my sailors escaped, having cast in the autumn waters of the Bosphorus, and how many defectors were you to list?
          Quote: victor50
          Do you think everyone was torn from the country?

          Not all, but they were ... but I think if they had opened the border ... many would have pulled!
          1. victor50 28 February 2020 13: 40 New
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            Not all, but they were ... but I think if they had opened the border ... many would have pulled!

            Borders have opened. Question repeat? You are talking about two sailors, and I'm talking about those who left at open borders. Initially, your message that there would be an opportunity, everyone would rush (you are hinting at it), is initially not true. Even now, when the moral is somewhat different and often only material goods are put at the forefront.
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              Quote: victor50
              Your promise that there would be an opportunity, everyone would rush (you allude to it)

              laughing You are like a fortuneteller fortuneteller ... hinting ... wassat
              Quote: victor50
              I'm talking about those who left with open borders

              The USSR consisted not only of the RSFSR ... many people left the open spaces of the former USSR! Residents of large cities mainly left Russia.
              Quote: victor50
              initially not true

              Initially, your opinion about some hints is not true!
              Quote: Leader of the Redskins
              There was an example - the USSR. Units of millions sought to the West

              Soviet girls began to marry foreigners much earlier than the collapse of the USSR and the opening of borders ...
              1. victor50 28 February 2020 14: 31 New
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                Quote: Serg65
                The USSR consisted not only of the RSFSR ... many people left the open spaces of the former USSR! Residents of large cities mainly left Russia.
                Quote: victor50

                Have you tried just answering the question? And then everything around the bush? Comedian ... Goodbye.
                1. Serg65 28 February 2020 14: 34 New
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                  hi Have a nice one you too
              2. Victor N 28 February 2020 15: 25 New
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                Of those who left, he knew himself, there were no Russians. Mostly Jews, there were Ukrainians, one was Belarus.
            2. Maki Avellevich 28 February 2020 16: 27 New
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              Quote: victor50
              Borders have opened. Question repeat?

              the question is not how many would leave abroad (there is no answer to this question)
              the question is why the borders in the USSR were closed?
            3. A.TOR 28 February 2020 17: 39 New
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              After the "opening of borders" not only individual people left the USSR - entire nations
  6. Minipig79 28 February 2020 08: 24 New
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    Indeed, they profiled developed in the USSR, and now scratch their nape, in the invention of the bicycle. Under the USSR, apartments were given to workers. Now, of course, no one even stutters about it. What honest way can a specialist after a university make money on housing that is not yet old? Yes, no! Another article from the article amused the message not to pay a decent teacher in kindergartens, teachers in schools. Where will they run away and flow away if they are paid in proportion to the importance of their work? Maybe a decent sn doctor will lead to negative consequences? From GDP, it is expected, not a word about fair salaries to doctors and teachers. Just thoughts of how to "keep out."
    1. AU Ivanov. 28 February 2020 09: 21 New
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      Who was given the apartment, and who was waiting for her half his life. A quarter of Leningraders in communal apartments huddled. It’s better to make money on your own apartment than to stand in the position of begging.
      1. polar fox 28 February 2020 09: 44 New
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        Quote: AU Ivanov.
        A quarter of Leningraders in communal apartments huddled.

        and my ancestors, in order to “not live in communal apartments”, went to build a VAZ and Tolyatti ... got an apartment. others built KamAZ and Naberezhnye Chelny ... also received. the pasta was ".- according to the fabulous.
        1. AU Ivanov. 28 February 2020 09: 52 New
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          Leningrad was supplied well, slightly worse than Moscow. I went there from Novgorod twice a month to get sausage meat. 5 hours there - 5 back. This in our stores was a Kati ball, and St. Petersburg lived well, in terms of supply. Grandfather and grandmother, both veterans, grew old in a communal apartment, and we were forced to leave for Novgorod, where they gave dad home from the railroad, but it was official.
        2. Serg65 28 February 2020 10: 33 New
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          Quote: polar fox
          . What is the problem of "Leningraders"?

          While your ancestors earned a long ruble, Leningraders created the country's defenses, this is their problem!
          1. AU Ivanov. 28 February 2020 11: 43 New
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            Created. Living in communal apartments and waiting in line for improvement for decades. My grandmother was the surgeon in the hospital, the doctor, but they did not bother to allocate a separate area to her. Only shortly before the end of her life, on the occasion of the 60th anniversary of the Victory, she moved to a separate one.
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              Quote: AU Ivanov.
              they didn’t bother to separate a separate area

              Under the Union, veterans were generally treated through their fingers.
  7. Vitaly Tsymbal 28 February 2020 08: 28 New
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    We have all the brains in the State Duma - these brains are flowing to the USA, Europe and Israel, so to speak, to the place of residence laughing
    1. Doctor 28 February 2020 09: 43 New
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      and Israel

      There are special statistics

      The truth is I do not know whether it is good or bad. Definitely good for them. wink
  8. FRoman1984 28 February 2020 08: 41 New
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    Correctly said, money is not the only thing. The point, as in the joke about Bobik, is in perspective. A man leaves for the future, including for his children.
    In a country that is experiencing a period of turbulence every 8–10, planning for the future is extremely problematic.
    It is also useless to appeal to patriotic feelings, because, looking at how Vova’s friends have become billionaires from nobody, a feeling of hypocrisy arises. Like, let's patriots, work hard so that we become even wider and richer.
    Many will disagree with me, but this power has already been compromised and it is impossible to take anything good and bright from her lips.
    1. Malyuta 28 February 2020 09: 41 New
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      Quote: FRoman1984
      Like, let's patriots, work hard so that we become even wider and richer. Many will disagree with me, but this power has already been compromised and it is impossible to take anything good and bright from its lips.
      Totally agree!
    2. Victor N 28 February 2020 09: 42 New
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      Now Russia is an island of traditional healthy public morality, among the universal bedlam. Information sea, notice and think: how to take the children there ?! Here we can somehow influence the situation, but there?
      1. sergo 28 February 2020 10: 00 New
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        Well, how do you influence the situation in the country? We have elections - shows for the people. And how were you going to influence?
      2. FRoman1984 28 February 2020 10: 24 New
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        Quote: Victor N
        Now Russia is an island of traditional healthy public morality, among the universal bedlam. Information sea, notice and think: how to take the children there ?! Here we can somehow influence the situation, but there?

        Victor, what can you influence? Your opinion, like the entire population, was taken into account, for example, in pension reform?
        Why do you think our people are more moral than TE? I read your comments here - you live in some parallel dimension.
        1. Victor N 28 February 2020 15: 43 New
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          Here I can express my opinion, but whether they will take it into account is the second question. I pushed some proposals for many years before accepting them. Exactly what I can influence and always influenced - my social environment. Assessment of public morality is an intimate matter, you have the right.
          As for the "parallel measurement": the problem is very complex, the solutions do not lie on the road. Russia is a very attractive country as a whole. But they are leaving. About most of my friends who left - no regrets.
  9. RussianRoulette 28 February 2020 08: 42 New
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    Patriotism begins at the top of the country. As long as the oligarchy multiplies its fortunes and rebuilds alternate aerodromes for itself, sucking up blood and sweat from the Russian land, propagandizing methods for achieving superprofits at a minimum of costs, the saying that the number of wolves to feed will still be relevant.
    1. Victor N 28 February 2020 09: 48 New
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      From your little tirade, only enormous envy is noticeable. Engage in your own well-being. The problem of "leakage" is not so great. And Russia is more comfortable and richer, calmer and more decent than many others.
      1. FRoman1984 28 February 2020 10: 32 New
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        Quote: Victor N
        From your little tirade, only enormous envy is noticeable. Engage in your own well-being. The problem of "leakage" is not so great. And Russia is more comfortable and richer, calmer and more decent than many others.

        I look with which countries to compare. Have you been in Kurgan for a long time, for example, or in my native Kemerovo?
        The leakage problem is very large. Have you ever wondered why our Su-57 engines, like the aircraft itself, have not been able to bring for 15 years now and are talking about 4-5 years of testing? Why, in fact, nothing new was invented in the defense industry, many projects failed, why we have been modernizing Soviet models for 30 years. In rocket science, a complete failure.
        Pension reform, an increase in VAT, a decrease in fertility, a stagnation of the economy - all this you call "more prosperous"?
        1. Victor N 28 February 2020 15: 56 New
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          Yes, not everything is safe. And you keep in mind the good. Fertility: I regret that it did not work out with the third. I despise the childless, I believe that society must tear them away in order to survive. I do not like pension reform, but I KNOW that it was impossible to do without it. No way. The economy is weak because the society of enterprising people demonizes immediately, and there is no one to develop. It is necessary to change the vector of attitude towards entrepreneurs to the opposite. And most importantly: the success of each of us in raising our own well-being will ensure the development of the economy.
    2. AU Ivanov. 28 February 2020 10: 42 New
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      Patriotism starts from the bottom. Officials and oligarchs didn’t come to us from another planet - they left the people. From our people.
      1. fleks 28 February 2020 11: 06 New
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        So it turns out the people are bad? And in my unenlightened view, the negative purposeful selection of mucilage
        1. AU Ivanov. 28 February 2020 11: 39 New
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          Why is it that when a person from the people gets to the post, a metamorphosis occurs with him. Here and look down and swagger and grabbing hand grow. In general, it was correctly said: every nation deserves its ruler.
  10. Spartanec 28 February 2020 08: 43 New
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    Lord Well, why are there so many abstruse words with a pensive facial expression? !! After all, the answer to the surface is to increase the TOTAL welfare of the entire population !!!
    Even if you collect all the minds in one place and provide them with the conditions of life and work, all the same, against the background of the poverty of their friends, relatives and so on, they will not feel comfortable, at the same time aware of their temporality. And if a person sees smiling faces around him, feels social protection, then he is not looking for the best! There was an example - the USSR. Units of millions sought to the West, and then from their own, mercantile - political interests!

    In my opinion, you can’t say better) I’m just sure that the majority escapes not from purely mercantile considerations, but just in the hope that it will create the best not only for itself but also for posterity. We have a global problem and we will only increase the salary for civil aviation pilots to solve it. The problem will be solved when any working citizen will live with dignity !!!! Regardless of the place of work and position. It is not necessary that everyone be millionaires, it is enough that a person with the lowest salary can live with dignity.
    1. Victor N 28 February 2020 09: 52 New
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      You can ensure a decent life for yourself and your family only in person! At all times they knew how to solve this problem, though not everyone succeeded. But you need to strive. And do not wait for wonderful alms.
  11. Lannan Shi 28 February 2020 08: 43 New
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    South Korean diplomas are appreciated in the world no worse than ours. And if you take SKY, then perhaps higher. And no massive brain drain has been noticed. Just sn in the UK are quite comparable with the usa. So they don’t leave, although neither mining, nor cunning schemes with housing are observed.
    But yes, the position is funny. Are leaving? But we still won’t pay.
  12. Sancho_SP 28 February 2020 08: 50 New
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    "Brains" flow away not from low income per se, but from the fact that requisitions, prohibitions, inflating the budget, corruption, etc., interfere with earning
    1. Victor N 28 February 2020 09: 54 New
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      Hex of pure water - no such scale! Ugly ...
  13. Maks1995 28 February 2020 08: 59 New
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    Six months ago, the Kremlin stated that for one who left, there are 2-3 who arrived.
    So KNOW PROBLEMS.

    And suddenly Putin said something ....
    So before they said something there - they say you do not want the forest to be illegally cut down in Siberia ??? - Well, watch it yourself ... on Google for example.

    A friend’s son works in Switzerland ... Gold medal, physics and all things ... wife, 2 children, Google, travels all over Europe on weekends, and in Russia ....
    And what can the RF offer him ??? Penalties on Google and Facebook?
    1. remal 28 February 2020 09: 32 New
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      For one engineer who left for Switzerland, they issued a passport to a Tajik janitor and an Azerbaijani huckster.
    2. Fishery 28 February 2020 20: 04 New
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      harvesting dead wood) and seaweed)
  14. New Year day 28 February 2020 08: 59 New
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    ... the idea of ​​burdening graduates of the same medical universities with additional obligations: you have unlearned it - work it out.

    This was the case with the Union, but the hospital was supposed to provide housing for the young specialist. Lack of housing served as the reason (legislatively) to say goodbye. In addition, it used to be an interenso to work, because we TREATED people. Now we EARN money for the hospital. Quality doesn’t really bother anyone. Alas, these are the laws of capitalism.
    The example is simple: it used to be common when entering the abdomen to eliminate all diseases, for example, remove the gall bladder with stones and eliminate the ulcer. Now it is not profitable. since the insurance company pays this at a minimum, now it must be done separately. Then the cost of the case increases by 2 times request
    1. Eug
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      Paid medicine is a monster in which doctors are interested in HEALING, not HEALING ... because a healthy person will not make an appointment with them ...
      1. Maki Avellevich 28 February 2020 16: 36 New
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        Paid medicine is a monster

        no paid medicine exists even in the pygmy tribes.
        in the absence of money there is a barter relationship.
        in the USSR there was supposedly free medicine but be calm, it cost a lot of money
  15. New Year day 28 February 2020 09: 07 New
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    Brain Drain: Where the Solution Is

    in changing the model of government. There is no other way.
    Reasons: the level of remuneration, the inability to assert their civil rights anywhere (recall Golunova), the lack of prospects for posterity, the elimination of social guarantees of the state.
    As the leader said ..

    young people take everything into their own hands and do the right thing: “do it yourself, do it yourself”
    1. Victor N 28 February 2020 09: 59 New
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      Unhealthy appeal, not good. Why "change", suggest how to fix it - it's time, the proposals are accepted. Do not waste time here ....
      1. New Year day 28 February 2020 10: 07 New
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        Quote: Victor N
        suggest how to fix it - it's time

        I want to disappoint you, it is necessary not to correct, but to radically change the attitude of the state towards citizens. Not to the elite, but to ordinary citizens who are the state and who do not feel their concern for themselves. That’s why someone is running away from home.
        Late to drink Borjomi when the kidneys fell off
        1. Victor N 28 February 2020 16: 04 New
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          First, grandmother left, later dad and mom. And there was no one to care about me. And I'm already an adult, I do not need someone else's care. I remember the party organizer was caring - there was no life.
        2. Maki Avellevich 28 February 2020 20: 41 New
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          Quote: Silvestr
          ... it is necessary not to correct, but to radically change the attitude of the state towards citizens.

          the state is an apparatus set in motion by an impressive number of people. (in Russia about 1.7% of the employed population)
          these people, as they say, came out of the people. their decisions and style of government is a manifestation of a certain average character of the people.
          it follows that expecting changes in the attitude of the state towards citizens, we often without realizing it, wish changes in the people themselves, society.
          since without changes in the character of the people there will be no changes in the behavior of that part of the people which is the administrative apparatus.
          There are cases of temporary cardinal changes, but they are fleeting and, as a rule, everything returns to normal.
          for example, the French Revolution, which ousted the king, but not ten years later, and the emperor became the head of France.
  16. Eug
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    We need a systematic improvement in the quality of life in the country as a whole, rather than individual "industry experts", as in the GA example. But this can only be achieved by strictly limiting the appetites of corporations and the bureaucracy acting in their interests. More globally, transferring part of the paid demand from the state pocket (national projects, state budget, local budgets) to the consumer’s pocket directly. But for this, a powerful economy and (without irony) a competent consumer would be very desirable ..
  17. Victor N 28 February 2020 09: 17 New
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    Communication with many people who left for permanent residence and have lived there for a long time has shown that they have not fit into the relevant society and communicate only with their own kind. And they see no prospects for becoming “their own” there either for themselves or for children. Doomed to loneliness and social isolation. They are sad, even yearning ... They are indignant at the public morality there ... Even after acquiring their own housing (which is very difficult) they complain that there’s no one to drink with.
    But all this is known later, when it is no longer possible to return.
    1. New Year day 28 February 2020 09: 22 New
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      Quote: Victor N
      Communication with many people who left for permanent residence and have lived there for a long time has shown that they have not fit into the relevant society and communicate only with their own kind.

      you are not lucky in communication. I talked with a family of doctors who went to the States - they are satisfied, fit into society, get a decent salary and back - no, no
      A similar situation with doctors who left for Germany, Poland
    2. polar fox 28 February 2020 09: 48 New
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      Quote: Victor N
      Communication with many people who left for permanent residence and have lived there for a long time has shown that they have not fit into the relevant society and communicate only with their own kind. And they see no prospects for becoming “their own” there either for themselves or for children. Doomed to loneliness and social isolation. They are sad, even yearning ... They are indignant at the public morality there ... Even after acquiring their own housing (which is very difficult) they complain that there’s no one to drink with.
      But all this is known later, when it is no longer possible to return.

      I skinnil.dam read this to friends and relatives who went abroad for permanent residence))) let them burn)))
    3. FRoman1984 28 February 2020 10: 41 New
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      Quote: Victor N
      Communication with many people who left for permanent residence and have lived there for a long time has shown that they have not fit into the relevant society and communicate only with their own kind. And they see no prospects for becoming “their own” there either for themselves or for children. Doomed to loneliness and social isolation. They are sad, even yearning ... They are indignant at the public morality there ... Even after acquiring their own housing (which is very difficult) they complain that there’s no one to drink with.
      But all this is known later, when it is no longer possible to return.

      For that, their children will fit in. They go there too.
      And how many of our fellow citizens did not fit into the current economic model of Russia? - these are at least those who live below the poverty line. What percentage of the population, please remind?
      I assure you that there is nostalgia, they miss friends and relatives, but there is no question of returning. You can come on vacation, see, be stunned by reality and leave to yearn further and further away from your "safe" picture.
      1. AU Ivanov. 28 February 2020 11: 48 New
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        Those who do not fit into the current economic model in Russia will not fit in the West either. The trouble is that the most proactive and competent go for the hill.
  18. wooja 28 February 2020 09: 18 New
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    brain drain ..., the author is new to the history of the issue ..., blames the lack of patriotism for those who go abroad ..., they don’t leave for a good life, Cossacks also arose from the delights of Russian or Russian life ... and they don’t they called Russians, but simply called themselves Cossacks ... everyone heard about the free Cossack Ilya Muromets ..., before the 1st World War, 12% of the US population were Russian-speaking ... they preferred the hard bread of emigration to crunching French rolls in Russia .. ., that something is wrong in Russia ... and the guarantor clearly carries nonsense ..., a patriot ..., there is a centuries-old tradition of expelling the smart, otherwise it cannot be called, or this is the policy of the authorities .., the smart are not needed in Russia.
  19. Gardamir 28 February 2020 09: 19 New
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    The problem is when a person in power is 20 years old, but problems are not solved.
  20. GRIGORIY76 28 February 2020 09: 19 New
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    But these people, those who left, generate billions of dollars of GDP, working for other countries. How much have we lost and are still losing. Sad
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  22. Million 28 February 2020 09: 22 New
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    The brain drain comes from the fact that the heads of state have brains on their side ...
  23. rudolff 28 February 2020 09: 22 New
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    Here in the article doctors were mentioned. I’m constantly hearing through the mailbox how it is getting better and better every day in health care, as it were, a national project. He even began to believe. And the other day, the Court of Accounts published the results of inspections of children's health care facilities. Here are just the numbers:
    From 116 865 buildings in which there are children's medical institutions (hospitals, clinics, feldsher-obstetric centers, etc.):
    30,5% - without running water,
    52,1% - without hot water,
    41,1% - without central heating,
    35% - without sewage,
    32,5% - without telephone,
    14% are generally in disrepair.
    To say that I am in shock is to say nothing. Do we have that, the third world ended yesterday? What young doctor would like to work in such everyday conditions? And Putin and Medvedev still had the conscience to declare how much is being done for young mothers and children! One language mate ...
    1. Malyuta 28 February 2020 09: 58 New
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      And Putin and Medvedev still had the conscience to declare how much is being done for young mothers and children! One language mate ...

      And they have no shame and conscience, these concepts are alien to them. And I fully support your mat. hi
  24. Erich 28 February 2020 09: 27 New
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    Each person is a blacksmith of his own happiness, also everyone chooses a place where he is better off living, better conditions for his family. So there is nothing wrong, if we can’t provide the conditions, then why be surprised that people are leaving))
  25. Lena Petrova 28 February 2020 09: 28 New
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    Many will disagree with me, but this power has already been compromised and it is impossible to take anything good and bright from her lips.

    It remains to wait for the government, which will eat with us from the same pots, and to distribute all earned to the poor.
    1. AU Ivanov. 28 February 2020 10: 48 New
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      Or maybe it is better to give the poor an opportunity to earn money, rather than corrupting them for free? Most of the poor, so to speak, of their own free will. More precisely by unwillingness.
  26. fleks 28 February 2020 09: 30 New
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    But were borders opened in the USSR?

    The USSR was a self-sufficient country and the majority of the population did not suffer from the country's closeness
    1. AU Ivanov. 28 February 2020 09: 59 New
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      Yeah, a trip over tourism over a hill was a pipe dream. For example, Paris to see. And there were kilometer-long queues for imported gear, it was so self-sufficient.
      1. fleks 28 February 2020 10: 03 New
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        Well, now there are these clothes and that you began to live better from this? Forgot-still chewing gum and cola
        1. AU Ivanov. 28 February 2020 10: 14 New
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          Of course it’s better. Previously, there was a torn Zhigul for happiness, but now the wife turns her nose from her Corolla. To drive abroad in the same Finka for fishing - no problem. What is the line I remember as a nightmare. In ownership, including the means of production, there are no restrictions. Self-best.
    2. Maki Avellevich 28 February 2020 20: 48 New
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      The USSR was a self-sufficient country and the majority of the population did not suffer from the country's closeness

      who suffered from this or not is a substantive question and there is no answer to it.
      but the question is, why was the border locked?
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        Nobody kept the border in the lock. It was just not necessary to work in secret production and have access to the secrets of the country and that's it. Now it's the same thing. For the common people, the same thing, the police and military do not go abroad. At least the middle link
      2. Departure 4 March 2020 13: 25 New
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        One of the big mistakes of the Union, you understand this, but here for some reason they cannot or do not want to understand this. What is the point of keeping a person in the country if he is shitty here, if he is much closer to another country and other people? Let him leave for health. And so, of course, those who were not released felt in prison without walls, there was hidden or overt opposition, I don’t know how much it affected the collapse of the Union, but it certainly did.
        And now here they are again stepping on the same rake and drowning in order to legally bind the graduate to his place. As a person who has both medical and pedagogical education, it’s easy for me to imagine how “good” such graduate students will work request
  27. Vasily Ponomarev 28 February 2020 09: 36 New
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    “but to educate a true patriot who is ready to share not only her victories with her Fatherland, but also adversity - it’s somehow not very good” - it is necessary to amend the constitution so that no one can leave, and those who want to leave should go directly to heaven by stomach otherwise
  28. remal 28 February 2020 09: 39 New
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    To reduce taxes and requisitions from convertible professions, this is IT, including other techies and doctors with knowledge of English. Moreover, "convertible" in both directions, even if they come from the same Germany for a long ruble.
  29. Warrior MorePhoto 28 February 2020 09: 45 New
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    many graduates of domestic universities leave them with a firm belief that in their native land, in principle, "there is nothing to catch."
    And do you think you need to work for free, and even without prospects to live up to retirement?


    I’ll say more, not even graduates, but applicants! I personally know!
    And now the facts:
    Studying at a higher institution in the Czech Republic - FOR FREE! We have an average of 200-300 tr. in year
    Unemployment for students Zero! I am not kidding! I was shocked by such a definition when I talked with a teacher from a Czech university. List of companies that are ready to take young professionals.
    Salary, depending on specialists (programmer, medic) 2000-3500 euros
    Food prices are about the same as ours, rental apartments are about the same as ours. Apartments at a cost as in St. Petersburg.
    For understanding - student travel on all types of public transport 450 rubles if our money.
    I’m silent about the fact that from the Czech Republic for 20 euros you can fly and relax in Paris for a couple of days.

    Ps
    This is not the press and not a myth; I personally communicated and recognized.
    1. Keyser soze 28 February 2020 14: 55 New
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      I’m silent about the fact that from the Czech Republic for 20 euros you can fly and relax in Paris for a couple of days.


      This is normal in the EU - for 9 euros I flew from Sofia to Berlin .... And so for those who have completed school in the EU there is a program Identify Europe. Give free train and bus tickets wherever you want in Europe for 1 month.
  30. fleks 28 February 2020 09: 46 New
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    It turns out who is to blame, teachers of foreign agents. Clear.

    Well, let's "Akhejaknete" something else.)))

    Well, the trolls pulled themselves up. Only on schedule do you work
  31. Zaurbek 28 February 2020 09: 57 New
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    Friends .... a technical specialist is not a slave .... he wants to get decent money and he brings this money to his company.
  32. pmkemcity 28 February 2020 10: 12 New
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    Unlearned - work out

    He wants to leave - he will always leave. You hockey players as an example. They wanted to spit on contracts in the KHL, and the NHL warmly supports them in this.
  33. AU Ivanov. 28 February 2020 10: 16 New
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    The solution is simple, like mooing: pay, pay real money and people will reach for you. There is no other solution to the question and will not be.
    1. God save the king 28 February 2020 10: 28 New
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      Why pay if it’s easier to prevent traveling abroad.
      You can even do without an iron curtain, it is enough to raise the cost of a passport a thousand times, and the problem of brain drain will disappear as such.
      1. AU Ivanov. 28 February 2020 10: 30 New
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        Again in the scoop? It's fine, Thak you.
        1. God save the king 28 February 2020 10: 33 New
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          Between the scoop and gamepads, I choose the scoop as the lesser of evils.
          1. AU Ivanov. 28 February 2020 10: 38 New
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            You can live without geyparadov and without communists and without liberals.
            1. God save the king 28 February 2020 10: 42 New
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              You can not.
              In this case, “Scoop” is a collective image of all authoritarianism.
              And the red banner, and with proletarian marches, is just a candy wrapper that does not significantly affect anything, for the laws of nature are one for all.
              1. Erich 28 February 2020 13: 17 New
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                Well, since you want to live in a “scoop” live, it’s not a problem. Why increase the cost of passports and prevent travel? Not everyone wants to live like you. It’s easier: they’ll leave and you will build your “scoop” as much as you like, do not bother people to leave if they have such desires))
                1. God save the king 28 February 2020 15: 54 New
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                  Not everyone wants to live like you.
                  You never mind what they want there, we need to raise the country and working hands will not be redundant.
                  1. Erich 28 February 2020 21: 59 New
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                    You never know what you want there, use your hands. Nobody forbids you to do this. Whoever needs to raise the country, let them raise it, but do not need to touch the rest.
  34. Fishery 28 February 2020 10: 43 New
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    they manage to learn the engineers from them)))) the Japanese and Germans cried quietly in the corner) money, respect, freedom of implementation, take away one factor and no fermented patriotism will help.
  35. fleks 28 February 2020 10: 51 New
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    Quote: AU Ivanov.
    Of course it’s better. Previously, there was a torn Zhigul for happiness, but now the wife turns her nose from her Corolla. To drive abroad in the same Finka for fishing - no problem. What is the line I remember as a nightmare. In ownership, including the means of production, there are no restrictions. Self-best.

    Sasha. I would have believed that you were happy about life. But damn, I already heard something like that. As a standard, you write, without fiction. Without a soul, you are poorly taught propaganda to push or you pumped up yourself, you studied badly?
    1. AU Ivanov. 28 February 2020 11: 51 New
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      I write personally on my own behalf, on behalf of others no one authorized me to speak. I am not a deputy. So that is my personal opinion.
  36. Rostislav 28 February 2020 11: 07 New
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    The fight against brain drain must begin with the battle for souls.

    This has long been understood. "If you want to defeat the enemy, bring up his children"
    D. fools in the government there. Then why are such "patriots" still appointed by the ministers of culture and education?
  37. WayKheThuo 28 February 2020 11: 15 New
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    You ask him: "Why are you leaving?" and he will answer you:
    1. The climate. As a rule, they travel to countries with a mild climate, with an abundance of sunny days. It would be nice to have an ocean or sea at hand. In our country there are such places, but as a rule there is no sensible work in them.
    2. Financial stability. This is a consequence of a strong economy. Do we have a strong economy? Yah! Just yesterday, the ruble collapsed, they say because of the coronavirus. And so the economy is strong.
    3. Organization of production and work. A very important parameter. You do only what you owe, what you know. You are not torn to pieces by non-core work just because there is nobody to do it stupidly.
    4. Interesting, advanced tasks. Yes it is. What can the Khrunichev company offer a typical graduate of a missile faculty? Maybe participation in the program of flight to the moon, or building a base on it? And what about robotics? And what about advanced medical research? So breathtaking? Maybe I'm wrong, but we have big problems with the statement of the problem.
    5. Career. Directly follows from paragraph 4. There is no interesting task = no career. Under Dzhugashvili, in the age of 30–40, they became Chief Designers and Heads of large enterprises, for there were corresponding tasks. And now you, a graduate of the Moscow Aviation Institute, who went to Tupolev or to Sukhoi to gray-haired, I'm sorry, you’ll be counting and / or escorting a landing gear of some aircraft. This is a very important and interesting job. The first 3 - 5 years, and then - hard labor is unimaginable.

    Now about patriotism.
    To begin with, the author, why are you writing this:
    I will not give here the specific names of professors and other figures called to “sow the rational, the good, the eternal,” which were fully noted by frankly Russophobic rhetoric - they are already well known.
    ? If the author has something to say, say it, and so is idle talk.
    Battle for souls
    begins with a clear understanding of why you need it. That is, we need ideology and its systematic implementation, and my country has big problems with this.

    By the way, did you notice that I did not say anything about lave? Yes, because a young, single, burning guy with an idea money is not really needed - at least a lot.
    Such requests will appear later, but people are leaving now.
    Such gave.
    1. AU Ivanov. 28 February 2020 12: 26 New
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      Yes of course. Young does not need money. Apartment too. A car, a good car, youth will be completely replaced by public transport. The idea, of course, is great, but you won’t be fed up with it, a full ruble should be attached to the idea.
      1. WayKheThuo 28 February 2020 14: 22 New
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        Excuse me, of course, but why should a young specialist MUST pay a "full ruble"? You work, they will look at you, pay attention to your business qualities - then please. And so ...
        But there is an important point - the young must see the future. That is, he must see that his boss, who heads the laboratory, receives significantly more than him (not 15 - 20%, but substantially), that there is a prospect in the industry, and most importantly, that he can really earn money by participating in specific projects and improving their skills.
        No one will ever pay a big money to a beginner.
        And this is normal.
    2. Fishery 28 February 2020 20: 10 New
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      and many others hesitated forever to confront someone, to listen to what is surrounded by enemies, gay parades, and other horror, a person wants to be part of the modern world, medicine, again, cheap mortgage, do not be afraid of your own authorities, cops and other things, in short, throw off this eternal darkness .
  38. Vyacheslav Viktorovich 28 February 2020 12: 01 New
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    However, do we, the descendants of the victors and great creators, really want to finally slide down to a “fishy” attitude towards life, measuring all values ​​in it exclusively with the amount of “feed”?
    Demand a decent salary for your knowledge, skills and work ??? What are you, how can you ...
  39. Dwellernet 28 February 2020 12: 23 New
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    As a techie I will express my opinion.
    To reduce brain drain, a specialist needs three things:
    1. Interesting work, with good equipment.
    2. The ability to develop.
    3. Normal salary.
    These are only necessary conditions. And also worthy medical care for my family, education for children, etc. But our government is so wretched that it can only prohibit or raise wages. And why do I need a salary if, in the event of a serious illness, one of the family members will we all go out and fight? And where are 25 million high-tech jobs? And why all the brains in Russia? It is easier to rule the slaves and the boyars.
  40. seacap 28 February 2020 12: 35 New
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    It was not necessary to destroy the education and upbringing system, replacing it with the stamping of several generations of "advanced consumers" without honor and conscience, to destroy the historically communal community of people, creating an inherited estate society divided by a huge gap. It was not necessary to bring the country to its knees in front of the enemy and give it to reproach and plunder, although this was an eternal task to “solve the Slavic question.” What could not be done by external forces in the 41st, it was possible to put into effect the forces of their own degraded and “snickering” "so-called sales and wretched in spirit" elite ", according to the plans and covenants of a dead, but not stupid Pole.
  41. Tomich3 28 February 2020 14: 39 New
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    "The problem is not that the Russian people want to earn more, but that they are ready to flee abroad in search of a more satisfying share, should their homeland enter one or another" turbulence band "."
    Yes, it’s easier to blame your own people for a “brain drain” than to create normal working conditions. And our country has been in the "turbulence strip" for 30 years already.
    1. Campanella 28 February 2020 15: 38 New
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      But this judge Medvedev dragged into the judges. And Medvedev is Putin. So think what you want!
      1. Reptiloid 29 February 2020 19: 07 New
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        Quote: Campanella
        But this judge Medvedev dragged into the judges. And Medvedev is Putin. So think what you want!

        It is interesting that under Medvedev’s government, the judge didn’t say anything about it, but how did the government change ----- did he say so soon ??
        1. Victor N 1 March 2020 10: 31 New
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          The judge did not say anything indecent: in Russia, both in February and in October there were coups, there was no legitimate transfer of power. This is a legal fact. Only now continuity is enshrined in the Constitution.
  42. parusnik 28 February 2020 14: 58 New
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    The fight against brain drain must begin with the battle for souls.
    ... Everyone watched the Adventures of Petrov and Vasechkin? I think everything .. In the first series, Vasechkin asks Petrov: Are you for the moon or for the sun? Petrov is responsible for the moon .. Well done! says Petrov, For the Soviet country! In the new version there are no words for the Soviet country in the film ... The bell rings .... How to fight for the souls if in this area the country's leadership has a conflict of the right and left hemispheres of the brain .... We defeated Nazism in 1945 and then the judge The Constitutional Court states that the power that mobilized the people for this Victory ... is not legal? smile
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    2. Reptiloid 29 February 2020 19: 04 New
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      Quote: parusnik
      ....... How to fight for the souls, if in this area the country's leadership has a conflict of the right and left hemispheres of the brain .... We defeated Nazism in 1945 and then the judge of the Constitutional Court declares that the power that mobilized the people for this Victory ... not legal? smile
      in such a statement, the foreigners will be delighted, those who are now contesting the Victory of the USSR. The ambiguity is complete ----- if the foreigners dispute the Victory, our protests express. And if in our country Nashensky media is the same, then is it nothing?
      1. Campanella 1 March 2020 15: 01 New
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        Well, yes, the capitalist rulers celebrate the victory of the Soviet people and spread rot against the people themselves!
        1. Reptiloid 1 March 2020 15: 38 New
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          Quote: Campanella
          Well, yes, the capitalist rulers celebrate the victory of the Soviet people and spread rot against the people themselves!

          Well said , good
          At the same time, I recalled the words of another local comrade ----- "" the bakers mourn the deposed king and at the same time regret the whites who overthrew him ""
          Such a double can not last long, it must stop in one way or another.
          1. Campanella 1 March 2020 19: 20 New
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            Yes, nature loves a healthy balance))).
  43. Campanella 28 February 2020 15: 35 New
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    And all the same, the president rests only on the monetary aspect of the problem.
    Where are the grandiose human projects? Where are the prospects for the development of society, they are not.
    Does he think that minds will be boiled in their own juice? It's funny somehow. Nearby somehow.
  44. Warrior MorePhoto 28 February 2020 15: 35 New
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    Quote: Keyser Soze
    I’m silent about the fact that from the Czech Republic for 20 euros you can fly and relax in Paris for a couple of days.


    This is normal in the EU - for 9 euros I flew from Sofia to Berlin .... And so for those who have completed school in the EU there is a program Identify Europe. Give free train and bus tickets wherever you want in Europe for 1 month.


    I didn’t know about “recognize Europe”, much! Something I even remembered the USSR, probably well done attitude.
    I have friends in the Baltic states, every year they fly to Berlin to work (it is constantly held in the first days of September), so for a few months (I don’t remember exactly) they buy tickets, Tallinn - Berlin 9 euros

    We also have free education in universities, I set an example at St. Petersburg State University (yes, one of the cool ones, but that’s not the issue)
    So here is the question for all participants, write for the sake of interest:
    Three examinations are passed, the maximum score is 100 for one subject. How many points are needed to enter the budget at SPSU (St. Petersburg State University).
    Write, I will give an answer later)
    1. parusnik 28 February 2020 16: 09 New
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      330 .. to everyone .. smile
      1. naidas 29 February 2020 21: 41 New
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        330 .. to everyone ..

        Bullshit not for everyone, but for each year of study.
    2. naidas 29 February 2020 21: 40 New
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      Average budget score

      294
  45. Warrior MorePhoto 28 February 2020 16: 16 New
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    Quote: parusnik
    330 .. to everyone .. smile


    S) Not seriously laughing
  46. Chess knight 28 February 2020 16: 51 New
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    Quote: Fighter MoreThings
    Quote: Keyser Soze
    I’m silent about the fact that from the Czech Republic for 20 euros you can fly and relax in Paris for a couple of days.


    This is normal in the EU - for 9 euros I flew from Sofia to Berlin .... And so for those who have completed school in the EU there is a program Identify Europe. Give free train and bus tickets wherever you want in Europe for 1 month.


    I didn’t know about “recognize Europe”, much! Something I even remembered the USSR, probably well done attitude.
    I have friends in the Baltic states, every year they fly to Berlin to work (it is constantly held in the first days of September), so for a few months (I don’t remember exactly) they buy tickets, Tallinn - Berlin 9 euros

    We also have free education in universities, I set an example at St. Petersburg State University (yes, one of the cool ones, but that’s not the issue)
    So here is the question for all participants, write for the sake of interest:
    Three examinations are passed, the maximum score is 100 for one subject. How many points are needed to enter the budget at SPSU (St. Petersburg State University).
    Write, I will give an answer later)


    299 and a teaspoon wassat
  47. Po-tzan 28 February 2020 17: 48 New
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    Brain Drain: Where the Solution Is


  48. fk7777777 28 February 2020 18: 17 New
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    Everything is just housing, work, salary, social package, well, mentality.
  49. Evgeny Goncharov (smoogg) 28 February 2020 20: 02 New
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    In place of Putin, too, would not have gone anywhere, why hide.

  50. Oleg_ru 1 March 2020 18: 13 New
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    To reduce brain drain from Russia.
    It is necessary, when students enter technical schools and universities to budget places, sign an agreement with an educational institution.
    In which, the student, after graduation, agrees to return the state spent on his money with his tax calculations (by paying personal income tax on personal income tax) to the Russian budget.
    If the amount of personal income tax paid is small, then the “debt” for 1 year of study at a technical school or university is written off after 4 years of work experience. (For example, a “debt” for 5 years of study at a university at a budget place will be written off after 20 years of work)
    In fact, the state provides the student with a money court to study at a budget place, with her return, in the form of payment of personal income tax over the next 10-15 years (if a good salary), or subsequent labor activity in Russia.
    Accordingly, if a citizen after studying at a budgetary place in a university decides to immediately (or after a couple of years) emigrate to a foreign country, to a new place of work, then he is obliged to pay the remaining amount of tax debt on personal income tax (for monetary court) real money (not taxes) to the Russian budget.