Military Review

The sudden displacement of CAA from Serakib is only a “warm-up”. A direct collision is indispensable.

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As you know, most eminent domestic news and military analytical resources continue to focus the attention of the Runet audience on the official details of the general offensive operation in "Greater Idlib" conducted by the SAA units (with the support of tactical strike and reconnaissance aviation Russian Special Forces Mixed Aviation Brigade), despite the ultimatum rhetoric and threats from high-level representatives of the Turkish defense department, as well as the ongoing attempts by Turkish army self-propelled guns T-155 "Firtina" to organize effective fire support for the Tahrir al-Sham counter-offensive throws at east operating direction.


The continuation of the operation to liberate Big Idlib is doomed to failure without direct fire on Turkish artillery positions in the region


Meanwhile, it should be noted that the information on the operational-tactical alignment in the Idlib theater of operations that appears in these summaries until recently was presented only in a rosy light, replete with victorious reports about the successful development of the offensive actions of the government forces of Syria both in the direction of Neyrab and Msibin (along the highway M4), and in the direction of the Al-Gab valley, with the rapid seizure of control of a number of dominant heights in the southern regions of “Greater Idlib”. It is for this reason that the news of a sudden counter-offensive dash by the Tahrir al-Sham formations in the eastern operational direction (with the subsequent displacement of units of the 25th Special Forces Division of the Syrian army from the strategically important settlements of Seraqib, Wadi Haj Khalil and Wadi Mekar, and also at the M4-M5 traffic junction) was greeted with a fair amount of bewilderment on the part of ordinary observers who have a superficial vision of the situation in the conflict-ridden Syrian governorate.

Nevertheless, there is absolutely nothing to be surprised at. The operational and tactical prerequisites for the impending loss of Neurab and Serakib, as well as the shattering of the combat stability of the fortified areas of the first line of defense of the SAA in the area of ​​the M4-M5 highway, began to be traced back to the tenth of February. It was during this period, when Syrian and Russian media were full of pathos about the defeat of pro-Turkish militants in Neyrab, the engineering units of the Turkish Ground Forces began to build observational (observation) posts and fortified areas on the eastern section of the front in Big Idlib. They were hurriedly transferred to the same operational direction tank brigades, anti-tank calculations, batteries of the Turkish army’s barrel and rocket artillery, as well as significant reserves of the Tahrir al-Sham group, which previously covered the rear approaches to the Al-Gab valley in the south-western operational direction.

And therefore, the currently observed successful advance of the units of the 4th mechanized division of the SAA in the direction of the Al-Gab Valley is a matter of course, fully consistent with the tactical layout in this area of ​​the theater of operations; after all, the layered defense of the Tahrir al-Sham formations in southern ON was almost completely exposed, while the Turkish Armed Forces command decided to "project forces" directly in the Seracibian direction, as well as to form new oporniks in the rear areas of Idlib. As for the further implementation of the SAA march in the direction of the city of Jisr al-Sugur (in the north-western operational direction), then with a high degree of probability it is possible to predict its "stopping" by artillery and anti-tank assets of the Turkish army on the far approaches to the M4 and the settlements of Tel Avar and Muhanbal, which are a critical infrastructure for both the Turkish Armed Forces and the Tahrir al-Sham forces.

This scenario can only be impeded by the final decision by the Syrian Ground Forces and the Russian Air Forces command of the final suppression of the Turkish artillery firing positions at the time of its work on the advancing units of the 4th SAA division in critical areas of the Idlib theater. At the moment, the adoption of such a decision depends solely on the geopolitical will of Moscow, which, unfortunately, has a very precarious position amid intensification of Russian-Turkish military-technical cooperation, expressed in the competitive battle between the leading Russian and American military-industrial corporations over the Turkish market weapons.

There are still some progress towards the likely conduct of an operation to force Turkey to peace. In response to the deployment of additional T-155 Firtina self-propelled guns in Idlib, the Syrian army began transferring a certain number of long-range 152-mm towed 2A65 Msta-B howitzers to active sections of the Idlib military theater, which, when using the latest guided artillery shells, “ Krasnopol-D ”can suppress Turkish self-propelled guns and“ fresh ”convoys in the most remote areas of the province, right up to the Gilvegeozyu checkpoint in the Turkish town of Reyhanli.
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  1. svp67
    svp67 28 February 2020 06: 01
    +8
    The coming days will show how much the author is right or not ... One thing I will say is that these days will not be simple, for everyone involved in this conflict
    1. Snail N9
      Snail N9 28 February 2020 07: 08
      -17
      It seems close to the fulfillment of the notorious "prophecy of Vanga" about Syria and the beginning of global troubles for Russia, which will begin from this country ...
      1. Stirbjorn
        Stirbjorn 28 February 2020 08: 56
        -15
        Quote: Snail N9
        It seems close to the fulfillment of the notorious "prophecy of Vanga" about Syria and the beginning of global troubles for Russia, which will begin from this country ...

        The situation resembles the Russo-Japanese one, in which they got into the enthusiastic exclamations of the then-patriots, but which was impossible to win based on the geopolitical situation. A couple of dozen of our aircraft will not win the entire Turkish army. I don’t understand what kind of enemy Turkey is in the current situation - it buys gas, builds a nuclear power plant, buys S-400, resorts again. Some stupidity, or the interests of our oligarchs
        1. Yrec
          Yrec 28 February 2020 09: 12
          +2
          Similarly, the situation is similar to the Russo-Japanese War. It is enough for the Turks to block the Bosphorus, under any pretext, not necessarily military, as our group in Syria will be in a critical situation. Air supply will not be able to effectively maintain intensive databases, and a direct clash between us and the Turks is not a fig not in our interests, and not in the Turkish ones either. Erdagan drove the situation to a standstill and we ended up there. Given the urgent attempts to bring down our aircraft, there is a high probability of further deterioration of the situation.
          1. Captain Pushkin
            Captain Pushkin 28 February 2020 11: 54
            0
            Quote: Yrec
            residuals to the Turks to block the Bosphorus, under any pretext, not necessarily military, as our group in Syria will be in a critical situation.

            A century and a half ago, the British and French supplied their troops in Crimea. This distance is approximately the same as from our Baltic ports to Syria. You just have to hand over to the Navy some more number of trans-transport vessels. And Syria's supply will have to be seriously strengthened.
            Plus, we will have to intensify work on the formation of an anti-Turkish coalition. From the Kurds, Iran, Egypt, Saudi Arabia to the US and internal opposition to Erdogan.
            1. smart ass
              smart ass 28 February 2020 14: 46
              -7
              It’s easier to make the 58th army go through Turkey
              1. Beringovsky
                Beringovsky 28 February 2020 18: 44
                +8
                Quote: Clever man
                It’s easier to make the 58th army go through Turkey

                So you will lead her, and it would be better if you collect all the "turkey beaters" and go ahead. Let him stay at home, no doubt you can handle the Turks yourself.
                1. smart ass
                  smart ass 28 February 2020 21: 47
                  0
                  You are simply brilliant))))
                  1. Beringovsky
                    Beringovsky 28 February 2020 21: 57
                    +1
                    Quote: Clever man
                    You are simply brilliant))))

                    No, ingenious, it is to send the 58th army through Turkey to Syria.
                    By the way, why not immediately to Ankara? Or is it Istanbul? No need to trifle.
                    Well, on the way back, take Berlin again, so that you don’t go a second time, which is really there.
                    1. smart ass
                      smart ass 28 February 2020 21: 58
                      -2
                      Istanbul will definitely have to be taken by the Russian Federation
                      1. Beringovsky
                        Beringovsky 28 February 2020 22: 02
                        +1
                        So you take it.
                        Give a hat? Or will you manage yours?
                      2. smart ass
                        smart ass 29 February 2020 17: 37
                        -2
                        Okay, wasn’t going to live forever?
                      3. Evil Booth
                        Evil Booth 29 February 2020 15: 38
                        -1
                        immediately with bulgaria! and the other side of the Greeks as a member of NATO))) drinks
        2. Snail N9
          Snail N9 28 February 2020 09: 14
          -6
          Yes, I have already read, on YaP, a discussion that everything in Syria looks like Russian-Japanese, only the scale is still not the same, but it is developing, developing. It is clear that if Russia has to clash with the Turks, then it will be sour in terms of victory - the Turks will easily cut off the supply and amba. Is it through the Caspian Sea, but through Iran .... and the Iranians will not fail to recall the occupation of 1941-42 ... It is ridiculous to recall the reports of Russian top officials that "in Syria they have already defeated everyone" ... "We won" - yeah. We haven't even started to "win" yet - everything is just beginning. It looks like the United States is just rubbing their hands - it’s clear that from the very beginning they didn’t risk anything and planned: 1-task minimum-throw Assad and bring to power the puppets signing "peace with Israel" on the conditions Israel needs, 2-task maximum- drag Russia into the war and pit it against Turkey, which, in any case, will eventually lead to the defeat of Russia and the fall of Assad. It seems that everything is developing precisely according to the "second" option - ..... and the United States and Israel are now standing on the sidelines and chuckling.
          1. IvanT
            IvanT 28 February 2020 09: 32
            +1
            Where did you hear "We won everyone!" Don't wishful thinking. The Russian Ministry of Defense announced the defeat of "the main group of terrorists and their backbone." Well, why bash how ...
            1. Snail N9
              Snail N9 28 February 2020 09: 39
              +1
              Yes? And here, "this" then - what? :: https://ria.ru/20171206/1510372695.html
              https://www.rubaltic.ru/article/politika-i-obshchestvo/12122017-rossiya-pobedila-v-sirii-i-formiruet-novyy-miroporyadok/
              1. IvanT
                IvanT 28 February 2020 11: 16
                +2
                Well, read your links carefully. It also says, "individual foci ....."
          2. Nastia makarova
            Nastia makarova 28 February 2020 11: 06
            -3
            or Erdogan will retreat and calm down
          3. Machito
            Machito 28 February 2020 14: 19
            -7
            Nothing like a REV. Turkey has no oil and gas. We shut off their fuel - like two fingers on the asphalt. And then surrender and Hagia Sophia on a silver platter.
            1. Aleksandr1981
              Aleksandr1981 29 February 2020 16: 36
              +1
              About Ukrainians we were also told.............. Now we rent their pipe on the basis of "pump or pay" if you want to pump more - the fee is 1.5 times more. No one will capitulate to us anymore.
          4. Evil Booth
            Evil Booth 29 February 2020 15: 39
            -1
            lol suggesting a snowden colleague in you ... I suggest you urgently visit the Kiev military registration and enlistment office yes
        3. Stirbjorn
          Stirbjorn 28 February 2020 19: 33
          -2
          22 minuses! Wow, how the local patriotic quilted jackets were aroused, although I just recalled everything about the Russian-Japanese ... took fire on themselves, so to speak wassat
      2. IvanT
        IvanT 28 February 2020 09: 28
        0
        Read Wang carefully .... What are the global troubles for Russia ?! Your fantasy.
      3. Nyrobsky
        Nyrobsky 28 February 2020 09: 43
        0
        Quote: Snail N9
        It seems close to the fulfillment of the notorious "prophecy of Vanga" about Syria and the beginning of global troubles for Russia, which will begin from this country ...
        The notorious prophecy concerned Iran - "When Persia falls".
        Although yes, Syria can probably serve as a trigger for this scenario.
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      5. Voltsky
        Voltsky 28 February 2020 22: 08
        +2
        Wang ...
        If you are a Christian, then you should know that this is a sign of paganism, for the priest does not go to fortunetellers :)
        If you are an atheist like me, then you should not believe in it.
        If you are a neophyte of paganism - then everything is OK, and Wang and Predictamus Suffered :)
    2. Evil Booth
      Evil Booth 29 February 2020 15: 37
      -1
      yes already healed
      because for a month take 5% of them in 20 days and then give 1-8% 4 time in 3 years, then this is of course a change in trend fellow
  2. Kamikaze19
    Kamikaze19 28 February 2020 06: 10
    +2
    At night, the Turks got their teeth. I think Sedna will be the decisive day
    1. anjey
      anjey 28 February 2020 06: 50
      +14
      Yes, our FAB-500 flew to the Turkish headquarters, 28 two hundredths ... I don’t want to scam, but if they start to drive Russia into a corner, all opponents will get lyuley, we just have no other choice or why we exist in this unjust World, right, that would somehow fix it for the better, so Adyu Turkish resorts ....
      1. Swordserg
        Swordserg 28 February 2020 07: 25
        +1
        Where does infa come from? When did it happen?
        1. anjey
          anjey 28 February 2020 10: 21
          0
          https://vk.com/wall-55849790_1017130,Конечно это не 100%но дыма без огня не бывает.
        2. Nastia makarova
          Nastia makarova 28 February 2020 11: 06
          -1
          the Turks have many dozens of corpses and therefore in Turkey blocked the Internet
      2. Berber
        Berber 28 February 2020 09: 06
        +5
        It’s not destiny to be friends with the Turks. Of course it is a pity, but we need to choose either we dictate the rules or to us.
        1. Oleg Bagaev
          Oleg Bagaev 28 February 2020 11: 51
          +9
          The very idea that the Turks can be allies of Russia, idiocy. There are not many options or a war or an image disaster for Russia, unfortunately, I expect the latter.
      3. Captain Pushkin
        Captain Pushkin 28 February 2020 12: 00
        +1
        Quote: anjey
        so Adyu Turkish resorts ....

        Alas, not everyone is friends with their heads. So this season there will be a stream of news about the various troubles of our tourists in Turkey.
        1. Malyuta
          Malyuta 28 February 2020 17: 59
          +3
          Quote: Captain Pushkin
          Alas, not everyone is friends with their heads. So this season there will be a stream of news about the various troubles of our tourists in Turkey

          Last year, two cops raped a young athlete with her friend in the Krasnodar Territory! I have never heard of such a thing about Turkey.
  3. Evgeny Ivanov_5
    Evgeny Ivanov_5 28 February 2020 06: 14
    +6
    The author is XNUMX% right. That's just at the expense of the courage of our leadership, I doubt it. And without this, the Syrians will simply run into full-scale hostilities with the Turks. After that, Idlib will pass to the Ottomans. And don't bombard me with cheap populist slogans. I'm already tired of patriotism.
    1. Cottodraton
      Cottodraton 28 February 2020 06: 30
      -4
      Well, go and fight as it should. When populism bothers, it's time to organize everything yourself. I think so
      1. Evgeny Ivanov_5
        Evgeny Ivanov_5 28 February 2020 08: 22
        -4
        Yes, I would go again and become a bit old. I'm not used to. But such cries from the couch wise men always aroused surprise. Well, God be with you. Tired.
        1. Cottodraton
          Cottodraton 29 February 2020 04: 57
          -1
          You are exactly the same screamer-couch warriors. You all know how, defeat everyone and you strive to hit everyone ... only for some reason it is more by someone else's hands. I don't think the soldiers from the trenches will thank you for that later. We already have problems with demographics, so we can "beat" everyone.
          1. Evgeny Ivanov_5
            Evgeny Ivanov_5 4 March 2020 12: 37
            +1
            Yes, start me on Syria. That’s why I myself fought because I know how it is. But you give the patriots just yelling how to cook in the Americans, Turks., Barmaley .... Strictly look at it.
    2. Nastia makarova
      Nastia makarova 28 February 2020 11: 07
      -4
      Yes, do not care at all for idlib, let them take it if they have enough strength
  4. Orel
    Orel 28 February 2020 06: 21
    +3
    Playing with fire is all, Putin was mistaken for the second time at Erdogan's expense or was not already mistaken, but rather the second time Erdogan put Putin in an awkward position, to say the least, the first time when our plane was shot down, everyone remembers: " back "," let's not forget we will not forgive ", so what? Six months later, Putin and Erdogan hugged, now again, Erdogan is sabotaging the gas pipe and will now demand to surrender Idlib, or maybe something else in exchange for this project, I think Putin will now finally understand that you cannot save dictators and believe them also, as for Assad in general. Turkey is already preparing to launch a large-scale operation, turned to NATO to activate the article of the treaty on collective security and demands the creation of a no-fly zone in Idlib (for a start), the United States has already expressed support, what smells like I think everyone understands, again: "stab in the back", "not let's forget not forgive ", again in general, Putin does not learn anything, unfortunately, but ordinary soldiers pay for everything with their blood ... Interestingly, Erdogan ordered the S-400 specially for NATO, but did we sell it? The question is rhetorical. Can be counted as a third miscalculation or about .. Putin. Okay, let's see how it ends, while the situation is leaning towards an unambiguous defeat, the alternative is a war between Russia and Turkey, which is impossible for many reasons, and above all from our side.
    1. nznz
      nznz 28 February 2020 06: 44
      +3
      it's time to get used to the fact that the KGB's habit of measuring 100 times, thinking 100 more times is characteristic of Putin. This is both good and bad. There is no irascibility in decisions. (I will give an example of Stalin's odious personality, honestly, not for his propaganda, the type of thinking is similar). Therefore, many commentators who do not take into account natural professional slowness think that this is indecision. I think this is not so. There is an analysis of many components, from feeding the Kurds, for whom now is the time to act, internal in Turkey, and I think that the Turks will not be given a small victorious war that Erdogan needs it. According to diplomatic lines, it has probably already been reported that the flow can be suspended, and the tourist-tomato lever, and the nuclear power plant can be stopped (this removes the dependence of the Turks to some extent on gas, they will simply speculate on it) .. there are different levers. As for the battle for Turkish military orders, the Turks have already spent money, Patriots were not given to them either, Americans they are brought up.Americans they will also allow the Turks to knock on the priest for the same purposes. Like, if he were obedient, he would receive more support. There is work.
      1. Paul Siebert
        Paul Siebert 28 February 2020 07: 32
        +6
        KGBshnaya habit 100 times to measure, another 100 times to think characteristic of Putin

        I agree!
        What many mistake Putin for indecision is actually a deep analysis.
        According to his zodiac sign, Putin is "scales". Balance in decision making is the main thing for him.
        I have a son - "scales". Half a day makes a decision, if important. But he chooses the best.
        His silence, the refusal to immediately meet with Erdogan, says one thing - the General Staff is working.
        Ottomans expect unpleasant surprises ...
        1. Orel
          Orel 28 February 2020 09: 32
          -2
          Quote: Paul Siebert
          What many mistake Putin for indecision is actually a deep analysis.
          According to his zodiac sign, Putin is "scales". Balance in decision making is the main thing for him.
          I have a son - "scales". Half a day makes a decision, if important. But he chooses the best.
          His silence, the refusal to immediately meet with Erdogan, says one thing - the General Staff is working.


          Let’s take a look, while I see only individual tactical successes, for which there is no clear strategy for a strategic victory, the situation is becoming more complicated and spinning more and more every year, expenses are growing, and there are no dividends from this at all, strategically this is a complete failure
        2. ROBIN-SON
          ROBIN-SON 28 February 2020 21: 17
          +3
          I have a wife, scales. Cancels one, the output is different, the hair stand on end!
          1. Paul Siebert
            Paul Siebert 28 February 2020 21: 25
            +1
            I have a wife

            You are easier with her ...
            Libra - vulnerable natures! .. wink
      2. Orel
        Orel 28 February 2020 09: 30
        +2
        Many components are being analyzed, from feeding the Kurds, for whom it is now time to act, internally in Turkey, and I think that the Turks will not be given the small victorious war that Erdogan needs. The diplomatic lines have already been convinced that the flow can be stopped, and the tourist-plus lever, and nuclear power plants stop (this removes the dependence of the Turks to what extent on gas, they will simply speculate for them) .. there are different levers.


        Are you sure that for Erdogan (as a dictator) all the things you listed are more important than his authority and the Ottoman empire? For some reason, for Putin, Crimea was more important than all the sanctions that you somehow stop for Erdogan, and why do not you think that for Erdogan Syria is like Crimea for us and he wants to capture it no matter what?)))
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          1. Orel
            Orel 28 February 2020 09: 55
            -1
            Quote: nznz
            Erdogan's Syrian piece is already much more expensive.


            And Syria is not costing us free either, but have we got something for all the years?
            1. nznz
              nznz 28 February 2020 16: 27
              +1
              two bases for 99 years, what do you think is worthless, at least strategically?
              1. Orel
                Orel 28 February 2020 16: 30
                +1
                Honestly, no. Maybe you have information that it gives us strategically, only without general phrases, about "growing influence in the region", this is always said when there is nothing to say, practically what?
          2. Orel
            Orel 28 February 2020 10: 05
            -1
            Quote: nznz
            he reminds me of something, a Turkish Komsomol member, a ground beetle, but he fell into strong hands

            And Lukashenka very skillfully milked Russia and you and I have been doing for many years, so he, as a politician, is generally well done, he does not wage war, but gets nishtyaki, and his obligations are all in words: " millions of words go to him))) We did not notice the Belarusian troops in the Donbas and Syria, so he just milked us
            1. nznz
              nznz 28 February 2020 16: 37
              0
              It is a great delusion to take a man's pettiness for political merit.
              How Gorby and Yeltsin believed and thought! And today you won’t find more despised figures - the people have arranged everything. And the AG will also stand in the ranks of which it deserves. Over time.
              It is naive to accept indulgence and concessions for the cunning moves of a cunning politician. it is he who gives out fakes that he is so needed. But he sees perfectly the fate of other leaders who have taken a different path. Everything is nearby. And the union of weaker countries around a powerful one is not only a historical law and a law of survival. The strong will survive anyway, but pay more. But how can the small ones survive? Where are those Balts? Where is Ukraine mad.
              Let's see.. the shop is closed. I would consider him cunning if he had made such a reserve that he could raise the country against him and reproach the Russian Federation, they say where I go to you, my people live better. our (excessive) he did something in the backlog. Didn't know that when the cornucopia would end? And where is the money .. from oil and speculation in someone else's goods? Isn't this the main question? Where did the money go if the economy is in place, stagnating .. the people can’t see it to get rich .... where did it go?
    2. Avior
      Avior 28 February 2020 09: 21
      +7
      S-400 is interesting Erdogan specifically ordered for NATO, and we sold?

      worse. Given a loan.
      1. nznz
        nznz 28 February 2020 09: 54
        0
        but photon reflectors held hopefully .. :)
      2. Aleksandr1981
        Aleksandr1981 29 February 2020 16: 44
        -1
        Thus, our people paid for them. Just get fucked up.
    3. lelik613
      lelik613 29 February 2020 16: 49
      0
      You are an optimist, my friend! This is not being treated ...
  5. Andrei Nikolaevich
    Andrei Nikolaevich 28 February 2020 06: 50
    +5
    Will wait. Good luck to our military and Syrians!
  6. Amateur
    Amateur 28 February 2020 06: 53
    +3
    was met with a fair amount of bewilderment with side of simple browsers, having surface vision situation in the conflict-ridden Syrian governorate.

    Finally, the wisest of the wisest Eugene-aka, who deeply studied "what-where-when" happens
    on the far approaches to the M4 motorway and the settlements of Tel Avar and Mukhanbal, which are a critical infrastructure for both the Turkish Armed Forces and the Tahrir al-Sham forces
    He opened our eyes, and even in expressions that arouse certain suspicions. belay
  7. Miron
    Miron 28 February 2020 07: 02
    -5
    The best advertisement for Russian weapons in Turkey is to hit the Turks in the teeth.
    More reasons to remove the Americans from Figs.
    In addition, no one will force Turkey to buy weapons that they can come and just take away.
    So think less, pull the trigger more.
  8. Aleksandr Suvorov
    Aleksandr Suvorov 28 February 2020 07: 05
    -4
    Strike while the iron is hot
  9. ichudov
    ichudov 28 February 2020 07: 12
    -9
    I don’t understand what is the point of risking so many things, in which Russia cooperates with Turkey, for the sake of a piece of land called Idlib, which Russia needs like a runny nose. You can lose everything, but what? What Assad will regain some Idlib?

    I explain that from a historical and ethnic perspective, Idlib for Turkey is about the same as Donbass for Russia.
    1. BIABIA
      BIABIA 28 February 2020 09: 32
      -1
      Quote: ichudov
      I explain that from a historical and ethnic perspective, Idlib for Turkey is about the same as Donbass for Russia.


      Plus or minus it is. And here, as usual, we observe the double standards of the Anglo-Saxons. Donbass must be returned to the "legitimate" government (although there was no legal coup d'etat), and give Idlib to the Turks. From what ....?!
    2. Serge Srednefontansky_2
      Serge Srednefontansky_2 28 February 2020 09: 45
      +1
      I agree, but only in a broad sense, including the entire territory of Syria. Without Putin’s help, Islamic fanatics would have long been standing at a pistol shot from Tel Aviv. The whole Kremlin pathos is aimed only at protecting the borders of Israel, alas ...
    3. nznz
      nznz 28 February 2020 09: 45
      +2
      joked? Donbass became Ukrainian thanks to Khrushch, and now it’s still there. But Groundhog Day is over and the trampling has stopped, we are waiting for Donetsk and Luhansk to go home, and who else decides to return.
      But those who want to merge into Turkey in Idlib are not visible except for the mercenary militants and Turkish invaders. Are you holding back everything? not from Israel?
  10. high
    high 28 February 2020 07: 15
    -27
    The confrontation between Russia and Turkey and the United States, Iran with Israel and the United States in Syria only intensify ....
    With the exception of the Russian Federation and Iran, no one in the world considers the Assad regime, guilty of monstrous massacres and crimes against humanity, the legal representative of the Syrian people.
    Until the United States, Iran, Russia, Turkey withdraw their troops from Syria and the UN-sponsored elections are held, the war in Syria will not end
    1. Hagalaz
      Hagalaz 28 February 2020 07: 41
      +8
      In Libya, there is a government from the UN. AND?
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    3. mitroha
      mitroha 28 February 2020 18: 39
      +2
      Quote: alta
      With the exception of the Russian Federation and Iran, no one in the world considers the Assad regime, guilty of monstrous massacres and crimes against humanity, the legal representative of the Syrian people.

      Please remind me when the trial of Assad took place, show us evidence of his crimes of which you blame him. At the same time, submit polls for each country around the world that describes the attitude towards the Syrian leader. And before providing this data, let me consider you a liar and a hollow bream. I have the honor
  11. andrei2911
    andrei2911 28 February 2020 07: 23
    0
    I don’t understand one thing. Why would the Russian aerospace forces come into direct conflict with the Turks? Isn’t it easier for us to give the Syrians self-propelled artillery and counter-battery radars? And let the Turks extinguish.
    1. Lannan Shi
      Lannan Shi 28 February 2020 08: 26
      +2
      Quote: andrei2911
      Isn’t it easier for us to give the Syrians self-propelled artillery and counter-battery radars? And let the Turks extinguish.

      In 2010, Assad had under 10.000 units of armored vehicles and under 5000 artifacts. A lot of the old, of course, but the amount ... As if suggestive of the rationality of the transmission of something there.
    2. Serge Srednefontansky_2
      Serge Srednefontansky_2 28 February 2020 09: 39
      -3
      There is a video on the Web how an Ottoman wedge heels a Syrian tank across the field, with such a level of combat training no equipment can help.
      1. Nastia makarova
        Nastia makarova 28 February 2020 11: 10
        -4
        do not write nonsense, there the tank is trying to hide because it could have been a shahid mobile
    3. Whalebone
      Whalebone 28 February 2020 11: 13
      0
      Already passed to the Syrians air defense. Less Russian Il.
  12. Vanych
    Vanych 28 February 2020 07: 44
    -4
    Today flashed infa: the videoconferencing struck a Turkish column heading in the direction of seracib, according to Turkish instagram 200 +78, after which Instagram was blocked, locals talked about more than one hundred 200s, and cars for transporting 200s and 300- x everyone arrives ... wait on
    1. IvanT
      IvanT 28 February 2020 09: 37
      +1
      Hk forget about the internal showdown. The Sultan’s position will write any nonsense to discredit Erdogan.
  13. Achilles
    Achilles 28 February 2020 07: 52
    +8
    Quote: Orel
    Turkey is already preparing to begin a large-scale operation, appealed to NATO to activate an article of the collective security treaty and demands the creation of a no-fly zone in Idlib (for starters),

    You are mistaken, the article says that if the country is attacked, and in this case, Turkey attacked Syria and fights in Syria, which means that it’s impossible to refer to the NATO article
    1. nznz
      nznz 28 February 2020 09: 50
      +2
      they do not understand, Taldychat NATO NATO ...
  14. Dedok
    Dedok 28 February 2020 07: 53
    -3
    Details are not of interest, the question is different - are we being quietly drawn into the war?
    What are our actions? sluggishly reacting - however, as always, as a result, we get in one's pants; or immediately on the tinsel - all that is available - so that side thinks further what and how.
  15. Chingachguk
    Chingachguk 28 February 2020 08: 27
    +5
    If Erdogan now does not go head-on with Russia, he will have problems in his travels .... This is his initiative to get into Syria and support the barmaley for his own ambitions, time goes on, money is wasted, there are casualties among the Turkish military, I think this summer season holiday in Turkey, it will already be foiled, I would not have taken my family now to the tourist region, to rest among the relatives of the deceased barmaley and Turks from the Russian Aerospace Forces. On the map today is the image of the greatest and most terrible, Erdogan. A direct clash with Russia can lead to the loss of the Ottoman’s face in all directions, from the army to the Turkish economy.
    1. Captain Pushkin
      Captain Pushkin 28 February 2020 12: 12
      -5
      Quote: Chingachguk
      a direct clash with Russia can lead to the loss of the Ottoman’s face in all directions, from the army to the Turkish economy.

      This whole story may end, as an option, with the partition of Turkey. The United States has been talking about such plans for more than a dozen years. A better opportunity is unlikely to present itself in the foreseeable future.
      The only question is that the Yankers have similar plans for Syria and the Russian Federation. Who will work in the first place? It seems to me that whoever shows the slack will be torn apart.
    2. Malyuta
      Malyuta 28 February 2020 17: 57
      +1
      Quote: Chingachguk
      If Erdogan now does not go head-on with Russia, he will have problems in his travels ....

      It is curious to ask the only question: who has a border with Syria, Turkey or Russia?
      1. Chingachguk
        Chingachguk 28 February 2020 19: 45
        +2
        Do you think that if Turkey has a border with Syria, then Russia can already collect clothes and bring down from there? Five years shove deep into a famous place?
  16. Loess
    Loess 28 February 2020 08: 30
    +3
    the adoption by the commands of the Ground Forces of Syria and the Russian Air Forces of Russia of the final decision on the suppression of the firing positions of the Turkish artillery at the time of its work on the advancing units of the 4th SAA division in critical areas of the Idlib theater. At the moment, the adoption of such a decision depends solely on the geopolitical will of Moscow, which, unfortunately, has very shaky positions against the backdrop of intensification of Russian-Turkish military-technical cooperation,
    Even the absence of any military technical cooperation and the complete absence of any other economic ties does not negate the fact that before a direct military clash with a strong adversary, everything must be carefully calculated. And pay attention to the features of the future theater of operations. There are too many factors to be taken into account, and the "intensification of Russian-Turkish military-technical cooperation" is far from the most important of them.
  17. JonnyT
    JonnyT 28 February 2020 08: 38
    -2
    Turks climb into the cauldron themselves .....
  18. Warrior MorePhoto
    Warrior MorePhoto 28 February 2020 08: 54
    +1
    Quote: Snail N9
    It seems close to the fulfillment of the notorious "prophecy of Vanga" about Syria and the beginning of global troubles for Russia, which will begin from this country ...


    It’s possible in more detail, otherwise these prophecies in different forms with different sauces) and if possible, the source (I understand that the primary source is most likely Wang)
    1. Snail N9
      Snail N9 28 February 2020 09: 18
      +1
      Banned "Manul" in "Google" again? I sympathize.
  19. Ros 56
    Ros 56 28 February 2020 09: 18
    +2
    Yes, here from any position, except for the gopniks, Eric the Ottoman is wrong. He climbed into a foreign land, therefore, he must receive in full and no matter in whose performance it will be.
    1. Whalebone
      Whalebone 28 February 2020 11: 19
      -3
      Erodogan does not consider this a foreign land, that's the point. There is his "Turkish world", which he defends. And this "peace" (or rather war) is right at its borders, and refugees are fleeing to it, to Turkey, not to the Russian Federation. So his motives are partly clear to me, and Russian (Putin's) raise questions. First, they fought against ISIS, and now they have begun to work on the Turks. What's next? Assad without the Russian Federation will be thrown off in a couple of days. And then what did the Russian Armed Forces do there for all 5 years? The Second World War ended faster with a clear result, but what is happening in Syria? Maybe Assad is not needed there by anyone, except for the environment smeared with blood?
  20. Olya Tsako
    Olya Tsako 28 February 2020 09: 19
    +1
    "As you know, most of the eminent domestic news and military-analytical resources continue to focus the attention of the Runet audience on the official details of the general offensive operation in" Greater Idlib "conducted by the CAA units"
    Yes. Now I have read the binder of news and articles of the "Military Review".
    Everything is the same.
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  22. Serge Srednefontansky_2
    Serge Srednefontansky_2 28 February 2020 09: 34
    -7
    I hear the clock ticking in anticipation of the next discharge of the Commander-in-Chief, after the shameful surrender of the Russian Spring, from this miserable Buonaparte they expect exclusively meanness and betrayal.
    1. Ros 56
      Ros 56 28 February 2020 13: 10
      +1
      What russophobes, he drifted behind and let's throw on the fan? How many got out of you? Do not break the shovels.
  23. Amateur
    Amateur 28 February 2020 09: 49
    +1
    Quote: Orel
    why don’t you think that for Erdogan Syria is like Crimea for us

    And what does today's Turkey have to Syria? In Syria (which actually separated from the Ottoman Empire in 1920 and became an independent state in 1946), Syrians live. They are NOT Turks. And in the Crimea live RUSSIAN. Recreation of the Crimean Khanate may in principle be desired by the Crimean Tatars. But Ukrainians have no rights to it.
    1. Whalebone
      Whalebone 28 February 2020 11: 29
      -4
      In Syria, there are a lot of nationalities of different ethnic groups and different faiths. Moreover, Syria, like Palestine, is more of a territory than a country. At one time, when the British with the French left there, the borders were drawn in a hurry, out of historical context. Hence the contradictions (both religious and national) between the population, which became the cause of the civil war that has been going on there for 8 years. Moreover, it is already clear that the new Syria will have a completely different configuration. And the Turks "defend" their Turkish world, plus they have practically a humanitarian catastrophe with refugees who are fleeing the war to them, and not to Iran, the Russian Federation or the SA.
      1. Alex russia
        Alex russia 28 February 2020 14: 29
        +2
        They will soon come to defend their "Turkish" world in Russia, look at their maps in front of which Erdogan likes to pose for a selfie so much - there is almost half of Russia, the Turkish world in his opinion, I'm not talking about Crimea, which the Turks a priori consider yours! Do not pee, you need to crush these reptiles mercilessly while they are still sitting in their holes, because as they crawl, it will be too late
    2. Alex russia
      Alex russia 28 February 2020 14: 35
      -2
      And the Turks have nothing to do with these territories, learn my dear history, Turkic-Mongols are nomadic people and can only download rights in their historical homeland - from the deserts of Mongolia where they came from 500 years ago! Like the Tatars to the Crimea, let them go there from where they came to Mongolia, for that matter Crimea should return its old one, the original name - Kherson, and transfer to the Greeks who lived there 2000 years
      1. Alex russia
        Alex russia 28 February 2020 17: 26
        +1
        Sorry, not Kherson, but Tauris, a typo
  24. egod
    egod 28 February 2020 09: 50
    +2
    Here, here Turkey will close the Bosphorus, and what? Closes, well, the Turks, too, life can be complicated. Support Kurdistan, freeze tourist flow, etc. Etc. So, do not make a tragedy from this moment. Everything will be formed, and on the Syrian front too!
    1. Whalebone
      Whalebone 28 February 2020 11: 37
      0
      Every strategy should have a goal. A, B, C, and so on, with forks and a clear plan of action. Do you see the goal of the Russian Federation?
      1. Ros 56
        Ros 56 28 February 2020 13: 12
        +2
        Get rid of your fifth column to begin with, are you one of them?
  25. Butchcassidy
    Butchcassidy 28 February 2020 10: 01
    0
    I would like to congratulate Damantsev, finally (I hope!)) He heard the voice of the people and began to write texts not overloaded with terms, but something digestible! Keep it up!
    1. Zefr
      Zefr 28 February 2020 11: 26
      +1
      After a couple of sentences it’s all the same - oh, yes, Damantsev!
      What about the nuclear power plant - what is the problem with stopping construction and demanding immediate payment for what was built, in case of refusal - seizing the assets of Turkish companies in Russia? Who's on the hook?
      1. Butchcassidy
        Butchcassidy 28 February 2020 17: 55
        +1
        Very simple. We comply with the requirements of the agreements we have signed. Another question is what kind of agreement should be put to the wall ...
        1. mitroha
          mitroha 28 February 2020 18: 49
          0
          Have you read the full text of the agreements? Or do you want to put to the wall based on your inner feelings?
          1. Butchcassidy
            Butchcassidy 28 February 2020 20: 11
            0
            Why should I read the full text of the agreements if I have a head on my shoulders? Information from open sources is enough to say that the establishment of nuclear competencies in a state that has more than 100 years of genocide experience and that does not stop exposing the genocide of Kurds living in Turkey, Iraq and Syria, which relatively recently excluded Russia from its open the list of military enemies (even Armenia was expelled earlier) does not meet the country's long-term interests.
            Moreover, we do it for our own money (and Turkey is quite solvent) and besides, no one in Turkey hides neo-Ottoman ambitions, as well as plans to celebrate the 100th anniversary of the Republic of Turkey (2023) with nuclear weapons.
            Trade with Turkey food and other things corresponds to the concept of Real Politik, but everything else is definitely not. There aren’t even tax preferences when Russia builds this nuclear power plant. Listen to this topic by E.Ya. Satanovsky, S.A. Bagdasarov, and others.


            From taka ..., little ones!
  26. Ethnarchist
    Ethnarchist 28 February 2020 10: 51
    0
    Good day, gentlemen, experts, to the question of who benefits from it, any exacerbation of external political factors, partly to one degree or another, alleviates domestic political symptoms, and this, as we know, is very necessary for both Khazret Leri and the esteemed ......
    1. Whalebone
      Whalebone 28 February 2020 11: 34
      -3
      Sure. For Putin, the Constitution needs to be changed at a run (for some reason, although 4 years ahead), and according to polls, only a quarter of the population is ready to take part in this carnival. This is not enough for a "referendum on confidence" and can seriously complicate its position in the format "and the tsar is not real." We must urgently defeat someone and unite the nation. Lukashenko has jumped off, IS have won more than once, so think further for yourself.
      1. Zefr
        Zefr 28 February 2020 18: 04
        0
        I do not know who will vote for the new Constitution. Here people have already slipped so many times, and here is a new game. So who is involved?
        But it turns out that everyone will go and vote "For". Because it’s not enough, you see, horrible. Like: Let's again believe that everything that happened before was a mistake and a misunderstanding. But now, for sure, everything will be right. And we will support
  27. Bogranz
    Bogranz 28 February 2020 11: 05
    +1
    Well, while the Turks feel at ease, being in the position of "untouchable", extinguishing the Assad forces from art and UAVs. And they even scare the Russian Aerospace Forces with launches of MANPADS. But this is until the moment when they seriously began to "feel". So .... it's too early to wang.
  28. Alex russia
    Alex russia 28 February 2020 14: 23
    +1
    Notice how many pro-Turkish trolls "all-fenders" appeared at once on all open spaces of the Runet. That's it, paws up, Erdogan turns out to be a force, you have to bow to him. Do not piss brothers, Erdogan himself is like a hare, a bunch of problems, the geopolitical situation in Syria is clearly not in his favor, he has no allies there, the only thing, how ironic it was, was Russia. It is necessary to crush the Turks before they wake up!
  29. lopvlad
    lopvlad 28 February 2020 15: 18
    +3
    A direct collision is indispensable.


    with forecasts, the author was several years late. A direct military clash has continued since the destruction of our SU-24 by a Turkish fighter. Now, just for Erdogan, the critical moment is in trying to cling to other Syrian territories and keep the army of militants controlled by him. Apparently the militants are in such a bad position that without the support of the regular units of the Turkish army is only capable of retreat.

    Sudden displacement of CAA from Serakib


    really amused. You need to be fair in that the SAA offensive periodically ends with a retreat from certain settlements. Naturally, if reinforcements in the form of military units of the Turkish regular army approached the militants, then some occupied settlements had to be left.
    The "clever men" are especially striking by trying to draw analogies with the battles of the hoary antiquity and their results.

    One of Russia's goals in Syria is the elimination of international terrorist garbage, the potential of which can be used by the West to conduct terror in Russia and Erdogan wants to keep this garbage by placing it in the territory of a foreign state of Syria. The Russian government inevitably understood and took into account the conflict with Turkey before entering the videoconferencing system in Syria.
    1. Zefr
      Zefr 29 February 2020 08: 34
      0
      Well, that is, the president urgently convenes the Security Council, and is it just ridiculous to you?
      1. lopvlad
        lopvlad 29 February 2020 15: 28
        +1
        Quote: Zefr
        President urgently gathers Security Council


        he collects it for any reason, from the flu and scrofula and at the end of each meeting or conversation with a foreign leader.
  30. Pavel57
    Pavel57 28 February 2020 16: 32
    0
    The United States hopes to kill three or four rabbits in such a mess.
  31. Thunderbolt
    Thunderbolt 28 February 2020 17: 27
    +2
    This scenario can only be hindered by the final decision by the Syrian Ground Forces and the Air Forces command of the Russian Federation on the final suppression of the Turkish artillery firing positions at the time of its work on the advancing units of the 4th SAA Division in critical areas of the Idlib theater. At this moment the adoption of such a decision depends solely on the geopolitical will of Moscow, which, unfortunately, has a very precarious position amid intensification of Russian-Turkish military-technical cooperation, expressed in the competitive battle between the leading Russian and American military-industrial corporations over the Turkish arms market.
    I would argue with this paragraph of Eugene. The price of the issue of the Syrian war is much, much more than Antaeus's dollar profits. At stake is Russia's military and geopolitical prestige on the world stage. We are spending much more on Syria than we have from the Almaz-Antey deal. The pipeline issue also does not cover the set-up. Therefore, I object to you and can justify it. It is a pity that you do not enter into a direct dialogue, HERE.
  32. Vladimir Mashkov
    Vladimir Mashkov 28 February 2020 17: 35
    0
    The most difficult situation: you can’t fight with Erdogan, and you can’t give him Idlib! One thing is clear: this time Idlib will not be completely liberated. It would be nice to return the Seracibian denouement ... Success and good luck!
  33. Vladimir Nizhegorodsky
    Vladimir Nizhegorodsky 28 February 2020 20: 38
    0
    Neither Iran nor the Kurds said their word,
    Syria did not tighten the reserve.
    There are fighters from Lebanon.
    Russia is in talks to probe and drag out time.
    The fact that Erdogan drones used, self-propelled guns, plus artillery.
    Aircraft of the Turks will not save.
    February 27-28, survive day-night.
    And tomorrow it will be seen.
    Russia can do half the job with one reconnaissance and identification of firing and strongholds.
  34. Vladimir Nizhegorodsky
    Vladimir Nizhegorodsky 28 February 2020 20: 40
    0
    But sobering up a cocktail of terrorists and about Turkish proxies and regular troops is in all seriousness.
    Not their territory.
  35. Voltsky
    Voltsky 28 February 2020 21: 58
    0
    Author: Eugene Damantsev; here it’s all :)

    Yes, most likely you are right, there could be a direct collision :) But a number of questions arise about what has been written, strange turns of speech are used in the style of "echeloned defense" and a number of others :) What is this, I know, but where this is observed in Syria I do not know :)
    And Eugene do not call for war, this is not necessary ... I understand you are a mega-analyst and expert, but .... fi fi :)

    not a big observation from life, if you are going to beat your face ... They don’t tell you, step back or I'll give it in the eye, you will be pushed off and then hit. And then threats are raining, but not actions.
  36. Linxs
    Linxs 1 March 2020 02: 26
    +1
    Quote: Voletsky
    Author: Eugene Damantsev; here it’s all :)

    Criticizing - offering.
    You write an article. We will gladly appreciate it.
  37. litus
    litus 1 March 2020 22: 59
    0
    Turks don't have tomahawks? No. No Normal Air Defense? No. And we have calibers that easily reach Turkey from the Crimea. Well, about Tu22 (which, by the way, exercises at the World Cup were held last week), I generally keep quiet. No, I do not argue, war is surrealism, And I myself think about it with horror, but purely abstractly ...