The French military was invited to participate in the Victory Parade in Moscow

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The French military was invited to participate in the Victory Parade in Moscow

In the Victory Parade, which will be held this year on Red Square in Moscow, the participation of the French military is possible. This was announced on Thursday by the chief of the General Staff of the Armed forces of the Russian Federation Valery Gerasimov.

At a meeting with his French counterpart François Lekuentr, Gerasimov said that Russia would be glad to see the French military at the Victory Parade this year. He noted the importance of a direct dialogue between Russia and France, especially on the eve of Russia's preparations for the celebration of the 75th anniversary of the Great Victory.



We deeply honor the memory of the French military, who fought with the Red Army against a common enemy, and will be glad to see the French contingent among the participants in the Victory Parade on Red Square on May 9 this year.

- said Gerasimov Francois Lekuentru.

In turn, the chief of the French General Staff said that he would pass on the invitation for the participation of the French military in the Victory Parade to Emmanuel Macron.

Earlier it was reported that in 2019, Russian President Vladimir Putin invited French President Emmanuel Macron to the Victory Parade, which he accepted.
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  1. +12
    27 February 2020 18: 42
    Did they also defeat the Germans? No, well, let them pass for themselves, the uniform is beautiful, they know how to march ... tongue
    1. +12
      27 February 2020 18: 48
      Have you heard of the Normandie-Niemen squadron? Take a look at the film of the same name we shot, it's worth it. By the way, the Free French brigade in battles in the African theater, in contrast to the British, showed itself very well. There were real people there, not just Pétain.
      1. +9
        27 February 2020 18: 56
        The French military was invited to participate in the Victory Parade in Moscow

        How, and these too? (with)
        1. +7
          27 February 2020 20: 38
          Quote: Mountain Shooter
          Did they also defeat the Germans? No, well, let them pass for themselves, the uniform is beautiful, they know how to march ... tongue



          They won, they didn’t win ... they participated, why not, we don’t evaluate the contribution ...
          1. +10
            27 February 2020 21: 03
            Quote: cniza
            Quote: Mountain Shooter
            Did they also defeat the Germans? No, well, let them pass for themselves, the uniform is beautiful, they know how to march ... tongue



            They won, they didn’t win ... they participated, why not, we don’t evaluate the contribution ...

            They also participated on the side of Nazi Germany.
            1. +7
              27 February 2020 21: 57
              Quote: Bearded
              They also participated on the side of Nazi Germany.

              And on the side of Germany there are much more, moreover, volunteers.
              1. +12
                27 February 2020 22: 32
                How many people fought in the French resistance.
                German anti-fascists - about three thousand.
                Spanish anti-fascists - the exact figure is unknown, but all participants talk about their significant contribution.
                Russians - both citizens of the USSR, who ended up there by the will of fate, and anti-communist emigrants, shoulder to shoulder, about three thousand.
                French - On August 21, 1941, communist Pierre Georges shot and killed German Navy officer Anton Moser belay
                And how many French fought for the Germans? Figs knows him, but 23 Frenchmen were captured in the USSR. And in France, the French surrendered on June 136, 22, and in October 1940, Abwehr already stopped receiving freelance informants in France: there were already ... 1940 "informers" in the country
                After the Victory, England and the United States wanted to receive reparations from France as an ally of Germany, but through the efforts of Stalin, she was turned from an ally of the Nazis into their victim. For what? Well, Stalin was a famous humanist. It became a pity. But in vain.
                1. 0
                  28 February 2020 08: 48
                  By the way, the USSR did not chip in for the zone of occupation of Berlin for France.
            2. -1
              27 February 2020 22: 03
              Quote: Bearded
              They also participated on the side of Nazi Germany.

              Well, who did not participate in WWII on the side of Hitler? Seem only Greeks.
              1. -1
                28 February 2020 06: 50
                Quote: tihonmarine
                Seem to be only Greeks.

                Serbs and Albanians
                1. +1
                  28 February 2020 09: 27
                  Quote: polar fox
                  Serbs and Albanians
                  The Albanians for the most part joined the formations created by the Nazis - the 21st SS division "Skanderbeg", the "Luboten" battalion and the "Kosovo" regiment, as well as about 1000 people were sent to the Croatian SS division.
              2. 0
                28 February 2020 06: 57
                so it is. except for the Greeks and Serbs, all other peoples little by little served (see served) the Germans.
          2. +9
            27 February 2020 21: 18
            Well, if it’s about the contribution, then my sympathies are on the side of Mongolia, but as mentioned above, the form is beautiful and even lick the geyropa once again. Damn it.
            1. +7
              27 February 2020 22: 59
              Really. It's disgusting. Here I would put the Mongols on the passage, the first! We will become cattle if we forget the contribution of Mongolia and its people.
              1. +1
                28 February 2020 03: 10
                Already have! Almost everyone forgot about Mongolia. Everyone is silent about her contribution to the Victory!
          3. 0
            27 February 2020 22: 01
            Quote: cniza
            They won, they didn’t win ... they participated, why not, we don’t evaluate the contribution ..

            Most importantly in the post-war order of the world, the USSR received an ally in the person of France, and not an enemy on the side of the United States and Britain.
            1. Fat
              -1
              28 February 2020 01: 24
              Quote: tihonmarine
              Quote: cniza
              They won, they didn’t win ... they participated, why not, we don’t evaluate the contribution ..

              Most importantly in the post-war order of the world, the USSR received an ally in the person of France, and not an enemy on the side of the United States and Britain.

              I think you got excited. Germany from Trizonia grew together ...
        2. +2
          27 February 2020 22: 55
          Dear Rich! Paris resisted for so long that it remained unharmed.) And in general, the Kremlin is completely crazy. They will soon begin to invite the guards of the Vatican.
      2. +16
        27 February 2020 18: 56
        In Vietnam, this squadron proved to be far from the best. And look how many French served in the Waffen-SS.
        1. +2
          27 February 2020 19: 03
          ... how many French served in the Waffen-SS.

          Based on this logic, someone can also remember the traitors from the Vlasov army. How then to be, not to let anyone in the parades?
          1. +22
            27 February 2020 19: 13
            Only the French did not betray anyone, but with pleasure went to serve Hitler. About 300000 Frenchmen served in the Waffen SS and fought against us. We have 72 people and 300000 against, the ratio is not very. See the number of captured by nationality.
            1. +3
              27 February 2020 22: 14
              Quote: filalex79
              See the number of captured by nationality.

              In October 1940, the Abwehr (German intelligence service) stopped receiving freelance informants in France: the country already had ... 32 "informers" who entangled all the cities with a net, informing the invaders about the "suspicious behavior" of their neighbors. 000 Frenchmen signed up for the "Legion of Volunteers Against Bolshevism", and went to fight in the USSR: these units suffered heavy losses near Moscow. In 3000, the SS division "Charlemagne" ("Charlemagne") was founded - 1944 French citizens entered it: ironically, many SS men from France defended the Reichstag in Berlin at the end of April 7, and laid down their heads there
              In 1943, the so-called "militia" appeared: armed detachments of the SS type, consisting of French volunteers who fought with the Germans against the Resistance and hunted Jews (76 Jewish old men, women and children were sent to concentration camps, most were not sent back returned): in a year, 000 militants joined the ranks of the "militia". In 45, the “French Gestapo” (Carlingue) was created - investigative bodies that helped the Nazis figure out “enemies, Semites and communists”: it was headed by two professional criminals, Henri Lafont and Pierre Lutrel, recruiting 000 experienced bandits into the organization, whose duty was torture, shoot and kill. There are different data on how many Frenchmen specifically served in the Wehrmacht - the minimum figure was 1941 thousand (!) Collaborators: in any case, 32 French citizens who fought against us on the Eastern Front fell into Soviet captivity.
          2. +10
            27 February 2020 20: 49
            Quote: Sea Cat
            Based on this logic, someone can also remember the traitors from the Vlasov army.

            no comparison, how many were in the army of Vlasov and how many in the Red Army the number of French in the Wehrmacht and the Waffen SS is several times greater than the number of "free France", FRANCE fought on the side of the Reich
            1. -4
              27 February 2020 20: 56
              France fought on the side of the Reich

              You obviously have your own ideas about the history of the Second World War. After the defeat, Germany was divided into four zones of occupation, including and in French. Leclerc's French Panzer Division was the first to enter liberated Paris.
              So on whose side did France fight.
              1. +5
                27 February 2020 21: 06
                At first she fought on the side of England, then the Vichy government on the side of Germany.
                1. -6
                  27 February 2020 21: 08
                  Has the Vichy government declared war on us? Where is this note printed?
                  1. +7
                    27 February 2020 21: 11
                    It turns out that it is necessary to fight with someone, sure to throw notes to someone there? the Germans did not bother with this, and France itself was planning a landing of its troops in the Caucasus after the USSR began the war with Finland, but it did not work out
              2. +1
                27 February 2020 21: 23
                Quote: Sea Cat
                You obviously have your own ideas about the history of the Second World War.

                name the number of "free France" and the number of French Wehrmacht and Waffen SS
                Quote: Sea Cat
                So on whose side did France fight.

                France fought on the side of the REICH, some units from the legal point of view who did not have to wear from France except ethnic origin fought against, by the way, if you do not know that ...
                After several months of organizational work, on July 12-13, 1943, the constituent conference of the National Committee "Free Germany" was held in the assembly hall of the city council of Krasnogorsk. Its president was the German poet and participant in the war in Spain, Erich Weinert, who, although he was a member of the Communist Party, was never its functionary. The leadership of the committee included 38 people, including Wilhelm Pieck, Walter Ulbricht and other well-known leftist political emigrants from Germany.

                that is, exactly the same as "free france"
                1. +3
                  27 February 2020 22: 09
                  Quote: Barmaleyka
                  that is, exactly the same as "free france"

                  for these "free / fighting France" to spit on the trail of the German patrol was already considered a feat (if anyone was engaged in subversive work, it was Denikin's White emigrants), where is our Zoya Kosmodemyanskaya ...
              3. +1
                27 February 2020 23: 04
                Maybe the tanks of Leclerc and Stalingrad defended? .. Found ,, allies ,, Disgrace! Our grandfathers in a coffin will turn over from such ,, guests ,,! Soon we’ll go down to the level of chubby ones! Shame on you!
                1. +3
                  27 February 2020 23: 18
                  Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich
                  Found allies

                  well, French pilots fought and died like real men ...
                  1. 0
                    27 February 2020 23: 25
                    Totally agree with you! Honor and glory to them. But the pilots of ONE squadron. And the rest, where ,, fought ,,? Here, let them march,
                    1. +1
                      27 February 2020 23: 48
                      Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich
                      And the rest, where ,, fought ,,? Let’s march there

                      They would have marched there with lemongrass, Yankees, kengurushniks - ostriches, but if Aloizych hadn’t removed the “Fox” from Africa, they would have buried in Libya with all this composition ...
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                        0
                        28 February 2020 01: 47
                        Quote: PSih2097
                        Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich
                        And the rest, where ,, fought ,,? Let’s march there

                        They would have marched there with lemongrass, Yankees, kengurushniks - ostriches, but if Aloizych hadn’t removed the “Fox” from Africa, they would have buried in Libya with all this composition ...

                        The desert fox did not take the Suez Canal. The mission has not been completed and has no prospects. Aloizych already understood then that Africa is a bummer and who needs Suez without Gibraltar? And the eastern front, the front of the existence of the Reich. Not trade routes at all.
          3. +4
            27 February 2020 21: 05
            Quote: Sea Cat
            Based on this logic, someone can also remember the traitors from the Vlasov army. How then to be, not to let anyone in the parades?

            What's French?
            1. 0
              27 February 2020 21: 09
              What's French?


              Who?
              1. +4
                27 February 2020 21: 10
                Quote: Sea Cat
                Who?

                You.
                1. 0
                  27 February 2020 21: 23
                  I don't remember going with you to you. I wonder why the cheers-patriots can do nothing without rudeness?
                  1. +4
                    27 February 2020 21: 33
                    Quote: Sea Cat
                    I don’t remember going over with you to you.

                    Did you understand what you wrote? laughing
                    Quote: Sea Cat
                    I wonder why cheers nothing does without rudeness?

                    First, what was the rudeness? That I "personalized" the answer?! request
                    Quote: Sea Cat
                    why at the jingoists

                    Second, cheers - patriots ( your expression, by the wayDoes it sound boorish in your interpretation? wink ) here is more suitable for you, because you support the arrival of the French to the parade (and this is clearly a project from the authorities) ...
                    Something like this, it turns out ... feel
                    1. +1
                      27 February 2020 21: 48
                      Did you understand what you wrote? laughing

                      Ha, just noticed. What can you do, typo. request
                      Regarding invitations in general and to the parade in particular: the owner of the house invites you to visit. As for ours, then there is, that is, I did not elect him for president.
                      And it makes no sense to talk about the rest with you, go over the branch, there are different opinions.
                      1. +2
                        27 February 2020 21: 54
                        Quote: Sea Cat
                        And it’s pointless to talk about the rest with you,

                        And don't say ... request laughing
          4. +1
            27 February 2020 21: 37
            Quote: Sea Cat
            ... how many French served in the Waffen-SS.

            Based on this logic, someone can also remember the traitors from the Vlasov army. How then to be, not to let anyone in the parades?

            "communist" affiliation did not help you in such a sensitive issue !!! wassat do you think that the indulgence of the leadership in and the support of local pseudo-communist commentators will help you emerge as a "plus" winner in an attempt to justify any vileness ?? !!! what laughing
          5. 0
            27 February 2020 22: 17
            Quote: Sea Cat
            What then, do not let anyone in the parades?

            The Vlasovites didn’t hit the parade, they don’t belong there.
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        1. +12
          27 February 2020 19: 05
          Quote from rudolf
          If you judge by films about the contribution to the victory over the Nazis ..

          Quiet, quiet, friendly ... the squadron "Normandie-Niemen" really was and fought on our side. As well as some parts of the Pole. Honor and praise to these people, and those who fought for the Nazis, be it the French, Poles, etc. ... so now there is such a census of history and the results of wars that these characters are not downright criminals and sadists, but stupid fighters for freedom such as steel.
          The USSR did not clean up these noobs after the war, but in vain. Now we have a lot of fascist regimes all over the world, including the regime in the USA.
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            1. +7
              27 February 2020 19: 13
              Quote from rudolf
              Here is the personnel of Normandie-Niemen and let them pass. In general, I would rather invite the Mongols, whose contribution to the victory is much more significant than the French.

              The contribution was common ... who is more, who is less. But even this small contribution for a day, for an hour, for a minute brought Victory closer. You know what I mean, friend?
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                1. +12
                  27 February 2020 19: 23
                  Quote from rudolf
                  Andrey! Can't you already see that the Victory Parade is being turned into a show more and more every year?!

                  Rudolf, the Parade became a show at the very moment when the Mausoleum was boarded up with plywood. It was then that we became ashamed of our history.
                  1. +9
                    27 February 2020 19: 32
                    Andrey, we are not ashamed of our history, neither you nor I try to do this for us. And those who think with their heads perfectly understand who and why does this. And the parade, yes, turned into a show, when ATVs were brought to it, it became somehow completely sad. request
                    1. +8
                      27 February 2020 19: 35
                      Quote: Sea Cat
                      Andrey, we are not ashamed of our story,

                      We are ashamed ... that is why they talk about Sharmala here, but modestly keep silent about the Vlasovites.
                      I will say more, most of those present here, for example, I’m sure they consider the same Rasputin to be a fiend of hell, but Peter the Great is directly the benefactor of Russia. And why? Because we don’t know our story from the word at all.
                      1. +2
                        27 February 2020 19: 43
                        ... And why? Because we do not know our history from the word at all.

                        Unfortunately, you are right, and, fortunately, in part. It's just that many people find it easier to swallow the prepared "brew", and not to get to the bottom of the truth themselves, and some just don't want to think, it's easier and there is no need to complicate your life.
              2. +11
                27 February 2020 19: 50
                Andrey, if the contribution was common, then what happens, the Germans must also be recognized as winners? Some fought for the USSR and against Germany?
                Whose contribution to the victory is more significant, France or Mongolia? I think the answer is obvious...
                It is necessary to call the French, of course, politics, after all. But we need to tell and show more often who made what contribution to the Victory.
                1. +6
                  27 February 2020 19: 53
                  Quote: dmmyak40
                  Whose contribution to the victory is more significant, France or Mongolia? I think the answer is obvious...

                  You didn't understand what I'm trying to convey. I don’t measure whose contribution is greater, I’m saying that everyone who fought against the Nazis on our side APPROVED Victory. The same feat of Normandie-Niemen, for example, brought the date of Victory closer by a month, which means that the world lived for a month without war, without death in thousands of souls. And for this they bow low, as well as those Germans who fought in resistance against Hitler.
                  1. +6
                    27 February 2020 20: 03
                    I agree, everyone did what they could: someone at the front, someone in the rear. It just hurts the fact that, due to current political considerations, we are relegating to the background those who helped us more than others.
                    Now ask at school who contributed more to the Victory, Mongolia or France, the answer will not be in favor of the descendants of Genghis Khan ...
                    1. +4
                      27 February 2020 20: 12
                      Quote: dmmyak40
                      It just hurts the fact that due to current political considerations, we are pushing into the background those who helped us more than others.
                      Now ask at school who contributed more to the Victory, Mongolia or France, the answer will not be in favor of the descendants of Genghis Khan ...

                      You know, I once spoke with one Russian ... he reasoned like this - the Russians won the victory, and the rest were like that, in the wings. And when I asked him, listen, what about small republics like Moldova? There, by the way, taking into account the population, they did not return from the war in the order of the people. To which he said, but the RSFSR lost more. Of course, more, I answered, but the same Moldovans were not 200 million. And if there weren’t 14 other republics, could Russia alone have been able to cope in that war?
                  2. +4
                    27 February 2020 20: 33
                    So then it turns out that the States should also be called the Britons. They also invested a lot
                    1. +1
                      27 February 2020 20: 38
                      Quote: Yehudi Menuhin
                      So then it turns out that the States should also be called the Britons. They also invested a lot

                      For example ... you are a US citizen and fought against Hitler. Question-Victory Day is your holiday? Each country has its own heroes and traitors. Veterans of that war still live in the USA, and why not call them to this parade?
                      1. +6
                        27 February 2020 20: 50
                        For veterans in general there is no talk, this is sacred. The question is different. Young people will go from France to the parade. In gratitude to their grandfathers. In this situation, should I invite guys from the States and the World Bank?
                      2. +4
                        27 February 2020 20: 52
                        Quote: Yehudi Menuhin
                        Should in this situation invite guys from the States and the World Bank?

                        And why not? If they come, then they understand and share our values. There are no bad nations, there are worthless rulers, traitors and banal provocateurs, just as there are heroes in them too.
                      3. +1
                        27 February 2020 20: 55
                        Agree. I would be glad to invite EVERYONE from the anti-Hitler coalition. And I would be even happier if you came.
                    2. Fat
                      0
                      28 February 2020 02: 07
                      Quote: Yehudi Menuhin
                      So then it turns out that the States should also be called the Britons. They also invested a lot

                      The whole big four received invitations long ago
            2. -1
              27 February 2020 19: 15
              Well, why not? Fought - fought. By the way, yes, the Mongols must also be invited.
              Polyakov, 404, no need for tribalts - they themselves renounced the Victory, but the French can.
              1. +1
                27 February 2020 22: 33
                Quote: bk316
                but the French can.

                in 2010, the French, Moldovans, Americans, and Poles walked on Red Square
            3. +13
              27 February 2020 19: 47
              I completely agree!!! Mongolia made a contribution to the Victory much more significant than all the countries of Europe combined (with the exception of the Yugoslavs)! And helped in the most difficult moment
              1. +3
                27 February 2020 20: 41
                They were also invited, do not worry. Yes
            4. +3
              27 February 2020 20: 40
              Quote from rudolf
              Here is the personnel of Normandie-Niemen and let them pass. In general, I would rather invite the Mongols, whose contribution to the victory is much more significant than the French.


              And descendants have the right?
              1. Fat
                -1
                28 February 2020 02: 10
                Quote: cniza
                Quote from rudolf
                Here is the personnel of Normandie-Niemen and let them pass. In general, I would rather invite the Mongols, whose contribution to the victory is much more significant than the French.


                And descendants have the right?

                And the squadron is still winged. Then it's better for them to fly than to walk
            5. +3
              27 February 2020 21: 24
              I got ahead of it .... help from Mongolia is incommensurable more, but alas, they are not so significant.
              1. 0
                27 February 2020 23: 10
                Maybe Mongolia is not so “weighty”, but respect for this country is many times higher.
            6. +1
              27 February 2020 22: 05
              Quote from rudolf
              In general, I would rather invite the Mongols, whose contribution to the victory is much more significant than the French.

              Here you definitely noticed, plus with both hands.
          2. +1
            27 February 2020 20: 11
            Only not a Pole, but Poles. Sorry. In all other respects, I fully support you.
          3. +6
            27 February 2020 20: 26
            Of course, it’s quiet, Normandy is an exception, the rule is 300000 thousand. And I don’t need to jump here, history is history.
          4. +4
            27 February 2020 20: 50
            Quote: NEXUS
            friend ... the squadron "Normandie-Niemen" really was and fought on our side.

            here is the Normandie-Nman regiment and must pass along its banner, and not representatives of the army who fought on the side of Hitler
        2. -1
          27 February 2020 19: 11
          What does the movie have to do with it? It is foolish to deny the fact that both the French and the Poles fought on our side. and their merits give them the right to be with the winners at least. it is a tribute and thanks.
          1. +1
            27 February 2020 21: 43
            Quote: carstorm 11
            it is stupid to deny the fact that both the French and the Poles fought on our side

            nuuuu ... like byyyyyyyyy ... and not on our side, they also fought !!! request
            1. -2
              27 February 2020 22: 04
              I don’t deny it. but in my opinion it’s stupid now to calculate how many traitors there were and on this conclusion to decide who to invite and who not. some should be condemned and forgotten; others should receive their own esteem and respect.
              1. +1
                28 February 2020 00: 29
                Quote: carstorm 11
                I don’t deny it. but in my opinion it’s stupid now to calculate how many traitors there were and on this conclusion to decide who to invite and who not. some should be condemned and forgotten; others should receive their own esteem and respect.

                storage among the winners turned out to be the most ridiculous way !!! using this method, it was possible to drag Bulgaria into the winners !!! request wink

                Quote: carstorm 11
                but it’s stupid in my opinion now to calculate how many traitors someone had

                it’s just under such a mute that the tribaltos, psheks and raguli now have heroes - Nazi underdogs !!! am
        3. -1
          27 February 2020 19: 12
          Standing next to Brezhnev at the May 9 parade were Honecker and Kadar. They generally refer to the defeated.
        4. +2
          27 February 2020 19: 48
          Why not? Did the Polish Army make its contribution?
          1. +2
            27 February 2020 20: 42
            And who is against?
        5. +1
          27 February 2020 22: 20
          Quote from rudolf
          Four tankers and a dog come to mind.

          Captain Kloss is forgotten! k / f "Bet more than life"
        6. -1
          27 February 2020 23: 07
          If I were Muscovites, I would throw tomatoes at these ,, guests ,,
      4. +17
        27 February 2020 19: 01
        Have you heard of the Normandie-Niemen squadron?

        The personnel of the squadron consisted of 72 French volunteers (14 pilots and 58 aircraft mechanics) and 17 Soviet aircraft mechanics. The squadron was equipped with fighter Yak-1, later Yak-9 and Yak-3.

        The squadron fought bravely. But talking about its influence on the course of hostilities is possible only in the form of a wonderful script for a good film and big politics. Without the help of 14 French pilots of the Red Army Air Force, the Luftwaffe would never have won.
      5. +1
        27 February 2020 19: 06
        The Normandie-Neman squadron did not last long - it was deployed to the regiment.
        1. Fat
          0
          27 February 2020 19: 12
          Quote: AU Ivanov.
          The Normandie-Neman squadron did not last long - it was deployed to the regiment.

          Do you remember the IAP number?
          1. +1
            27 February 2020 19: 13
            Number 1, sort of like.
            1. Fat
              0
              27 February 2020 21: 20
              Not understood!
              formed from September 11 to 29, 1941 in the Air Force of the 51st separate army in the village of Kacha in the Crimea, on I-16 and I-15 bis aircraft. Aircraft received at Kachinsky VAShP. The flight crew arrived from the reserve aviation regiments of the North Caucasus Military District.
              1. Fat
                0
                27 February 2020 21: 27
                On April 5, 1943, the squadron began combat operations. The squadron also adopted the emblem of the province of Normandy - a red shield with two golden lions. Subsequently, it was replenished and on July 5, 1943, it was transformed into the Normandy regiment, which already included three squadrons that bore the names of the three main Norman cities: Rouen, Le Havre and Cherbourg. Yes .... Indeed number 1.
                Sorry. . ..
        2. Alf
          +4
          27 February 2020 21: 29
          Quote: AU Ivanov.
          The Normandie-Neman squadron did not last long - it was deployed to the regiment.

          And how many French were actually in this regiment?
      6. +11
        27 February 2020 19: 11
        For the sake of objectivity, I note that the French fought against us but for Hitler were an order of magnitude greater than those who fought with us. Without humiliating the memory of the Neman division and others.
        1. +1
          27 February 2020 21: 23
          About the order is not entirely accurate, but definitely more than in the "Free France"
      7. +7
        27 February 2020 19: 24
        Have you heard about the Normandie-Niemen ... Have you read the memoirs of the bomber pilots whom the French covered? Read, you will learn a lot of interesting things ... No, the French fought, fought bravely, saved Russian friends, beat the Germans. While the rest of the country (with a few exceptions) drank croissants with coffee on some nibul Rue de Belle France. After a change at the plant, which supplied equipment and ammunition to the eastern front ...
        Let's better call the Yak-3 squadron to the Great Victory parade ...
        1. +6
          27 February 2020 19: 38
          Did you read the memoirs of the bomber pilots whom the French covered? Read, you will learn a lot of interesting things ...

          You are not the only one who reads books. Since 43, my older brother was the commander of the "Pawn", and he beat the Germans and shot down himself, so I know about our pilots not only from books.
          But the idea of ​​​​flying aircraft of that time on Victory Day is really good, and not only Yakov.
      8. 0
        27 February 2020 19: 30
        Quote: Sea Cat
        Have you heard of the Normandie-Niemen squadron? Take a look at the film of the same name we shot, it's worth it. By the way, the Free French brigade in battles in the African theater, unlike the British, showed itself very well

        I know very well. And about the squadron, (later the air regiment), and about the "poppies", and the division of Leclerc ... Isn't it not enough to defeat Germany? About the SS-French, and the surrender of French Jews to the Germans for extermination - I also know ...
        1. Fat
          +2
          27 February 2020 21: 42
          Quote: Mountain Shooter
          Quote: Sea Cat
          Have you heard of the Normandie-Niemen squadron? Take a look at the film of the same name we shot, it's worth it. By the way, the Free French brigade in battles in the African theater, unlike the British, showed itself very well

          I know very well. And about the squadron, (later the air regiment), and about the "poppies", and the division of Leclerc ... Isn't it not enough to defeat Germany? About the SS-French, and the surrender of French Jews to the Germans for extermination - I also know ...

          Even. You’ll be right 50 times ...
          Poppies and the home army is the resistance of the vanquished ....
          Our Soviet government did not merge under the machine of the Wehrmacht.
          First, spoiled, then BROKEN. All European power of war.
      9. +4
        27 February 2020 20: 07
        Quote: Sea Cat
        There were real people

        Mostly communists. After 1940, France fought the British in Africa and the B. East. De Gaulle until 1944 was in the status of a deserter and a traitor.
        1. 0
          27 February 2020 20: 50
          Communists? Where? In the Free French Brigade in the African desert?
        2. Fat
          0
          27 February 2020 22: 05
          Quote: iouris
          Quote: Sea Cat
          There were real people

          Mostly communists. After 1940, France fought the British in Africa and the B. East. De Gaulle until 1944 was in the status of a deserter and a traitor.

          De Gaulle. For whom is a traitor? For the government of Pétain's confusion? When the allies came close to Vichy, almost all the ministers evacuated...
          In London? To Madrid? To Washington? ....
          Well, yes. To Berlin..
          “It fell to me to play a role in a terrible mystification ... The dozens of light tanks that I command are just a speck of dust. We will lose the war in the most miserable way, if we do not act ”
          (C)
          Here is the whole De Gaulle ...
          Kayel could not even know this general!
          What does the tough resistance of a handful of fighters mean ... in Southern France, when the Capital is sold by collaborators.
          I understand.
          But These are not winners!
      10. +5
        27 February 2020 20: 46
        Quote: Sea Cat
        By the way, the Free French brigade

        no one argues, but ...
        Data differ on how many French people served in the Wehrmacht - the minimum figure was 100 thousand
        23 French citizens who fought against us on the Eastern Front fell into Soviet captivity.






        in the summer of 1943, 39 Frenchmen fought in the Free France, the Normandie-Neman squadron consisted of 000 French volunteers (72 pilots and 14 aircraft mechanics)

        now, if the Normandy-Neman regiment would have passed under its banner, it would still be great to this day, and the French army fought just against us and forgive this is the same as letting the Bundeswehr military parade
        1. -5
          27 February 2020 21: 02
          this is the same as letting the Bundeswehr military personnel into the Parade

          But is it nothing that at one time Honecker stood on the podium of the mausoleum next to our leadership, and generals and officers from the GDR were in the guest stands?
          1. 0
            27 February 2020 21: 43
            Quote: Sea Cat
            Honecker, were generals and officers from the GDR in the guest stands?

            what is "free germany" heard?
            it's the same as if the Normandie-Niemen regiment passed at the Parade
            in addition, the GDR is the only normal ally of the USSR in the Warsaw Pact, which we betrayed to our shame and disgrace
            1. -3
              27 February 2020 21: 51
              The Union "Free Germany" was formed from captured Germans in our camps, what does Honecker have to do with it?
              1. 0
                27 February 2020 22: 05
                well, damn it, at least read something on the net before writing nonsense

                The National Committee "Free Germany" (German: Nationalkomitee Freies Deutschland, or NKFD) is the political and organizational center of German anti-fascists during World War II, created on July 12, 1943 in the USSR on the initiative of the Communist Party of Germany, which included leading German communists
                The leadership of the committee included 38 people, including Anton Ackermann, Wilhelm Florin, Wilhelm Pick and Walter Ulbricht

                To work specifically with captured German officers and natives of the military aristocracy, it was proposed to create a special organization for officers. On December 11–12, 1943, the “Union of German Officers” (German Bund Deutscher Offiziere, or BDO) was established, led by artillery general Walter von Seidlitz-Kurzbach.
      11. +3
        27 February 2020 21: 20
        With De Gaulle, 3000 French left for England.
        The composition of the "Free France" is 75 people, of which 000 are French, the rest are Arabs.
        Composition Mackey 120000 people, 65000 Spanish Republicans who emigrated to France. Hitler and Speer traveled around Paris in an open car with two escort vehicles, while visiting the Grand Opera he even paid 5 francs at the box office.
      12. +2
        27 February 2020 21: 33
        Quote: Sea Cat
        Have you heard about the Normandie-Niemen squadron? Check out our film of the same name, it's worth it

        it would be nice to make a couple of films about the reverse side of the "beautiful" storage in WWII !!! wink good
        1. +3
          28 February 2020 00: 45
          "The Great Walk" is a comedy, but still ... Yes
          1. +1
            28 February 2020 00: 49
            Quote: Svarog51
            "Big Walk"

            but it would be necessary to have a documentary ... with footage of how the "occupied" guardians are mutating amers, ritosses and canados !! wink good
            1. +3
              28 February 2020 00: 55
              They have their own "truth". The British fled from Dunkirk and abandoned the French. Then they tried to wring out the fleet or drown it. They also had skirmishes in North Africa.
              P.S. And "Normandy" was formed here.
              1. +2
                28 February 2020 01: 08
                Quote: Svarog51
                They have their own "truth".

                such "their truth", in the end, anyone will be able to justify himself, up to the German Nazis themselves !! negative okay, the British ... and the captured Canadians with the amers, why the mudohadi guardians ?? what
                PS. Right now, Kedmi is talking about the French "winners" right now in Russia 1 ... and not only about them !!! wink
                1. +1
                  28 February 2020 01: 34
                  Nicholas hi There are no two absolutely identical people in our world. Even twins have different personalities. That is why contradictions arise.
                  1. +2
                    28 February 2020 01: 38
                    Quote: Svarog51
                    Nicholas hi There are no two absolutely identical people in our world. Even twins have different personalities. That is why contradictions arise.

                    I do not argue!! drinks but there is a logic that does not apply to some, let's say, actions ... including crimes against humanity along with war crimes !! request
                    1. +2
                      28 February 2020 01: 52
                      Look at any state in WWII, everywhere you will find fighters against the Nazis and their hangers-on. Here it is necessary to judge the deeds of each individually. Life is not enough, even a few. They did this during the war years. Everyone has heroes and traitors. From the sum of their actions, it is very difficult to assess the entire state as a whole. And also take into account the modern politics of Russia. Well, you know what I'm talking about.
      13. -2
        28 February 2020 00: 10
        Unfortunately, the French disbanded it long ago and the French fought against the Red Army more than helped. Which does not detract from the feat of the pilots from the Normandie-Niemen regiment, I don’t remember where I read it - at first the French flew well and fought but suffered heavy losses. They all had an individual style of battle, they only saw the Germans, the formation fell into pairs and fought one on one, because of this, high losses. Our command had to intervene and, under the supervision of our pilots, teach them teamwork and tactics, as a result, losses were sharply reduced and efficiency increased.
      14. -1
        28 February 2020 00: 58
        Quote: Sea Cat
        Have you heard of the Normandie-Niemen squadron?

        So they would have invited the descendants of the "Normans" to celebrate. What for here any garbage to pull?
    2. +18
      27 February 2020 18: 54
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      Did they also defeat the Germans? No, well, let them pass for themselves, the uniform is beautiful, they know how to march ... tongue

      I don’t see any inscriptions in French ...
      1. +15
        27 February 2020 19: 12
        Ironically, many SS men from France at the end of April 1945 defended the Reichstag in Berlin ... Of course, no one detracts from the merits of the French Resistance units who fought for the freedom of their homeland, the French partisans who gave their lives for this, the exploits of the Normandie-Neman squadron "But to ignore the obvious fact that much more Frenchmen initially stood under the banners with a swastika than in the ranks of the" Free France ", also should not be - France was actually an ally of Hitler. I have no forgiveness for the SS division "Charlemagne" and the rest of the French, who signed up for the Legion of Volunteers against Bolshevism and went to fight in the USSR.
        1. +7
          27 February 2020 19: 14
          Quote: DMB 75
          I have no forgiveness for the SS division "Charlemagne" and the rest of the French who signed up for the "Legion of Volunteers Against Bolshevism" and went to fight in the USSR.

          good
          Now there are those who disagree .... Mandatory.
          1. Fat
            +4
            27 February 2020 22: 40
            Quote: Zoldat_A
            Quote: DMB 75
            I have no forgiveness for the SS division "Charlemagne" and the rest of the French who signed up for the "Legion of Volunteers Against Bolshevism" and went to fight in the USSR.

            good
            Now there are those who disagree .... Mandatory.

            Definitely .... Cossack collaboratorism and politicians of the EMRO ...
            There are no words ... What should have been the degree of hatred for the Russian People, even choosing the path of development without a bar.
            There was no Motherland for These.
            God be with them all .... Except for those who collaborated with the Reich ...
            "How many times you see, so many times and kill" (C) K. Simonov ...
            1. +3
              27 February 2020 23: 25
              Quote: Thick
              Quote: Zoldat_A
              Quote: DMB 75
              I have no forgiveness for the SS division "Charlemagne" and the rest of the French who signed up for the "Legion of Volunteers Against Bolshevism" and went to fight in the USSR.

              good
              Now there are those who disagree .... Mandatory.

              Definitely .... Cossack collaboratorism and politicians of the EMRO ...
              There are no words ... What should have been the degree of hatred for the Russian People, even choosing the path of development without a bar.
              There was no Motherland for These.
              God be with them all .... Except for those who collaborated with the Reich ...
              "How many times you see, so many times and kill"
              (C) K. Simonov...

              I do not see your disagreement. That's right. good
        2. 0
          27 February 2020 19: 32
          Quote: DMB 75
          I have no forgiveness for the SS division "Charlemagne" and the rest of the French who signed up for the "Legion of Volunteers Against Bolshevism" and went to fight in the USSR.

          So Bender remember, Charmal remember, the Magyar army, too ... why do we have such a selective memory? Once they began to recall the fascist idiots, then let's remember Vlasov with his army. And to this day, these shortcomings trample our land.
          Victory Parade is a celebration of the Winners. Sharmal, Vlasovites, Banderaites, Magyar’s army, Craiova’s army and so on ... you need to remember them so that you don’t repeat the story, but talk about them ... and why talk about the idiots who have only one rope?
          1. +3
            27 February 2020 21: 47
            Quote: NEXUS
            Since they began to remember the fascist noobs, then let's remember Vlasov with his army.

            remember .. it’s kind of fun, noooooooooo ??? wink
            1. -2
              27 February 2020 22: 56
              Quote: Nikolai the Greek
              remember .. it’s kind of fun, noooooooooo ???

              And one and a half million citizens of the USSR who helped the Nazis outweighed everyone? I read the comments, and I marvel at it ... Sharmel recalls the Poles, otherwise they are languidly silent about their idiots, as if they were not there.
              I mean, to measure the people by the standard, good or bad, stupidly and childishly. Among the French there were both pro-fascists and those who fought on our side. We also had Kozhedub with Marinescu, and there were Vlasov with the company.
              1. +2
                28 February 2020 00: 46
                Quote: NEXUS
                And one and a half million citizens of the USSR who helped the Nazis outweighed everyone?

                Do you think there were dissidents in the "gulag"??!!! wassat

                During the filtration, the NKVD officers were able to expose more than 12 active German accomplices and people who served in German combat units. A significant part of them started business, however, in connection with the decision to liquidate PFL, this category of people was sent to a special settlement, leaving them in charge of the local Ministry of Internal Affairs.
                Ordinary Vlasovites, as a result of a preliminary inspection of which the state security and counterintelligence agencies could not find compromising materials, together with their families they were immediately transferred to the Kuzbass coal mines, as well as to the railway construction or woodworking industry of Tyumen.
                In connection with the reduction of punishment for those who collaborated with the occupiers, even Vlasov residents convicted of bloody atrocities, as a rule, received punishment not exceeding 25 years in prison or labor camps.

                https://russian7.ru/post/chto-stalo-s-byvshimi-vlasovcami-posle-v/


                1,5 million is a minuscule of the population of the USSR ... and the entire storage fell under the Nazis ... and lived happily ever after !! am negative
        3. +3
          27 February 2020 21: 08
          the French partisans were communists, they began to act after a series of victories of the red army over the Germans
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    4. +6
      27 February 2020 20: 29
      Of course, no one detracts from the merits of the French Resistance units

      The merits of the French resistance do not justify the surrender of the French authorities of their camp without a fight.

      Why don't they have fireworks at the European Disney Park in Paris?
      Because at the sound of a shot, panic begins - all the French run to surrender.

      How many gears does a french tank have?
      Four rear and one front - in case the enemy decides to attack from the rear.
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        0
        28 February 2020 00: 27
        Quote: Incvizitor
        The merits of the French resistance do not justify the surrender of the French authorities of their camp without a fight.

        Maki: a shot from a pistol in the direction of a military column from a distance of a kilometer.
        A feat worthy of respect ...
        According to some members of the Polish government in exile, the AK destroyed up to 2000 Nazis and accomplices in the entire time before the Warsaw Uprising ...
        A feat worthy of respect.
        500 thousand military personnel of the occupying forces, collaborationist groups, officials of the occupation administration, armed colonists and accomplices, including 125 thousand people. - irrevocable ...
        These are Belarusian, Soviet partisans ...
        Feat Unparalleled
        No?
    5. +2
      27 February 2020 20: 37
      The French had their Resistance and De Gaulle! A part of the living descendants today, those who were its members, flew to Normandy-Niemen received by inheritance their well-deserved right to go along the main paving stones of the victorious country !! soldier
    6. -3
      27 February 2020 22: 14
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      And they also defeated the Germans?

      Even the Germans were surprised at this! In 1945, when the Allies included France among the signatories of the act of unconditional surrender of Germany, the representative of the Third Reich, General Wilhelm Keitel, exclaimed: “Did these also defeat us?”
    7. 0
      28 February 2020 08: 34
      Well, in the form of Normandie-Neman or others who volunteered, you can.
  2. +1
    27 February 2020 18: 47
    in vain these defeatists are called !!! wassat negative
    1. +2
      27 February 2020 19: 44
      Well, not all of them are defeatists. The same "Normandy" or de Gaulle's soldiers .. These then fought.
      1. +2
        27 February 2020 21: 14
        Quote: 210ox
        Well, not all of them are defeatists

        Recently, somewhere, I saw footage of how the guards "occupied" by the Nazis enthusiastically kick captured English soldiers !!! wink wassat
      2. +2
        27 February 2020 21: 19
        Quote: 210ox
        Well, not all of them are defeatists. The same "Normandy" or de Gaulle's soldiers .. These then fought.

        PS... found... look, very informative... with pictures and even a video!! laughing good

        "Why did it happen so?". 1944 The French are beating the Americans.
        https://picturehistory.livejournal.com/4638144.html

        PPS ... I also remind you that in Nazi Germany there were not only Nazis, but also anti-fascists ... but it didn’t help anyone much !!! request negative
    2. Fat
      0
      28 February 2020 01: 00
      Quote: Nikolai Grek
      in vain these defeatists are called !!! wassat negative

      Well... They were Poland's allies... As long as there was Poland before Dunkirk. ..
      France has nothing to do with Declaration 26 (Declaration of the United Nations), signed on January 1, 1942.
      The French, along with Liberia, joined the Allies in 44 ...
      So ... Normandy is Really the Resistance, and Maki is more of a legend, sometimes re-read, either Russian emigrants, or Soviet escaped prisoners of war, or SAS ...
      1. +2
        28 February 2020 01: 10
        Quote: Thick
        Quote: Nikolai Grek
        in vain these defeatists are called !!! wassat negative

        Well... They were Poland's allies... As long as there was Poland before Dunkirk. ..
        France has nothing to do with Declaration 26 (Declaration of the United Nations), signed on January 1, 1942.
        The French, along with Liberia, joined the Allies in 44 ...
        So ... Normandy is Really the Resistance, and Maki is more of a legend, sometimes re-read, either Russian emigrants, or Soviet escaped prisoners of war, or SAS ...

        many mistakes have been made, which are now starting to create problems!!! request
  3. 0
    27 February 2020 18: 48
    Normandie-Neman?
    1. +5
      27 February 2020 18: 49
      SS Division "Charlemagne"
      1. -2
        27 February 2020 18: 52
        If they come, Normandie-Niemen will win Charlemagne.
        1. +7
          27 February 2020 18: 57
          Quote: Sergey39
          If they come, Normandie-Niemen will win Charlemagne.

          I would like to.
          I only remember a French film about the "occupation", where a shopkeeper apologizes to "Madame and Monsieur" that "today there are only three types of cheese" and "times are hard, good products cannot be obtained" ....
        2. +8
          27 February 2020 19: 09
          In fact, the French from Charlemagne killed more of our soldiers than the French from Normandy killed the Germans.
      2. +3
        27 February 2020 19: 08
        Quote: AU Ivanov.
        SS Division "Charlemagne"

        Most states had representatives who fought on the side of Hitler and the French and Poles, of course, too. But you shouldn’t forget about Vlasov’s army either, ... yeah ...
        Those who fought for us are honored and praised, no matter what nation they are. And the fact that there are many shortcomings after the war is the omission of the Union.
        1. +6
          27 February 2020 19: 18
          Andrew, hi !
          Quote: NEXUS
          you shouldn’t forget about Vlasov’s army either, ... yeah ...

          Duc and the whole difference - we have Vlasov and his rabble - criminals and traitors.
          In Ukraine, Bandera and Shukhevych are "heroes".
          And in France, they all "reconciled" with each other - "they are all French."

          The question is not who traitors were, who did not.
          The question is how to relate to these traitors.
          1. +1
            27 February 2020 19: 22
            Quote: Zoldat_A
            The question is how to relate to these traitors.

            In order to somehow relate adequately, you need to know the story. And with this, the Europeans have a bad ... memory is very short. And the Anglo-Saxons jump out of their underpants to cover up the truth.
        2. -7
          27 February 2020 20: 41
          Dear NEXUS! Do not crucify you before the ignoramuses who forget about almost one and a half million Soviet citizens who fought under the banner of the Wehrmacht and the SS. They like mote in someone else’s eye sees without noticing the log in their own.
      3. +1
        27 February 2020 19: 46
        Let's not talk about these morons. But the Normandy was and is. True, after the war they also "differed" in Vietnam, for example.
        1. Fat
          0
          28 February 2020 01: 15
          Quote: 210ox
          Let's not talk about these morons. But the Normandy was and is. True, after the war they also "differed" in Vietnam, for example.

          Let's remember. For no one but the USSR, WW2 was primarily a war for independence.
          Repartition. For Japan, USA, Germany and Eurosatellites, Italy and France. And only for the USSR for the SURVIVAL of the people, the state and the system.
    2. +6
      27 February 2020 18: 49
      Quote: Prjanik
      Normandie-Niemen?

      Division Charlemagne ... Damn ...
      1. +2
        27 February 2020 18: 52
        Well, I lived on this street.
        Normandie-Neman
        1. +4
          27 February 2020 19: 03
          My father served in the VTA in Ivanovo. Airfield "Severny". Normandie-Niemen was recruited and trained there
        2. +1
          27 February 2020 19: 47
          No way in Smolensk?
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          2. +1
            28 February 2020 00: 58
            Ivanovo also has a street "Regiment Normandie-Niemen" Yes
        3. +5
          27 February 2020 20: 39
          In Borisov the 7th SS is named "Normadii-Neman" and the street has the same name. The regiment fought in these places and had losses. In 1964, 2 boys in a swamp found a plane with the remains of the French pilot Jacques Gaston. People remember that.
    3. +1
      27 February 2020 18: 50
      Foreign Legion. There are both Russians and Ukrainians (a pair of every creature).
  4. +9
    27 February 2020 18: 51
    "What, these also defeated us ???" Keitel (c) request
  5. 0
    27 February 2020 18: 53
    And the Americans will not ban them? Once barked from across the ocean and all the cases.
  6. +4
    27 February 2020 18: 55
    So near Borodino in 1941, they were rolled out again, and so they are probably invited as prisoners of war ...?
  7. +8
    27 February 2020 19: 01
    I am against it, there is nothing for them to go there. DON'T DESERVE!
    1. +3
      27 February 2020 19: 20
      But Stalin did not think so.
      According to the results of 5 thousand 240 sorties and 869 battles, the pilots of the Normandy-Neman regiment won 273 confirmed victories and 37 unconfirmed, as well as damaged 47 enemy aircraft. Of the 96 pilots, 45 died in battle or went missing, four became heroes of the Soviet Union
      After the surrender of Germany, Stalin decided to give all the French officers the Yak-3 that they piloted.
      Maybe he could see better?
      1. +2
        27 February 2020 19: 32
        It's good that you remembered this regiment, ... good people, they never forgot us either.
        For their heroism and performance, the pilots of this regiment at the end of the war flew home on the planes they fought on (Yak-3, etc.).
        1. 0
          27 February 2020 19: 36
          good people, they also never forgot us.

          I have been to France many times. Unlike the Poles, the Balts and other Bandera people, the French remember everything and no matter what their contribution to the Victory was, they are not going to refuse it ....
          1. 0
            27 February 2020 19: 42
            ... so I talked about it - their brains are in place, but few people believe me, unfortunately, ... well, you saw everything yourself, thanks for writing.
    2. 0
      27 February 2020 19: 46
      in the present tense - yes, but there is still the past and ... the future ... we are more like the French than the local ... Israelis). Everything will be fine, the main thing to remember is a joke about dad, his little daughter and about what and why sometimes dogs are doing on the street).
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  9. -6
    27 February 2020 19: 21
    Perfect ! ) For just one idea, it is already necessary to give a good bonus to the one who generated it ....
    Now, if they come, it will be nice. ....
    EXACTLY MILITARY PARADE !! ... it was necessary to start with it, and not with the economic cooperation of the unknown with the incomprehensible.
  10. -4
    27 February 2020 19: 21
    Good move during the hybrid war. I approve.
  11. +4
    27 February 2020 19: 50
    Will we invite the Germans?
    Frau Merkel is a friend of our supreme, as he says - they are our partners. After all, we will not stretch the threads of gas flows to anyone. Plus, all our supreme bonzes ride on their cars (Mercedes, BMW, Audi, Porsche) ...
  12. +9
    27 February 2020 19: 53
    I think with the banner of Normandy-Niemen. I heard that there will be Mongols. I served in the 44th tank regiment - The famous Mongolian regiment - 2 Mongolian and Soviet banners. There are more than 10 orders on the banner of 20 Heroes in the regiment. The regiment reached Berlin. The regiment was called Revolutionary Mongolia. The Mongols raised money for a tank column and supplied everything needed throughout the war. If only a T34 with the inscription Revolutionary Mongolia and two battle banners Ours and Mongolian would pass at the parade. Don't think about me. I already served in Königsbrück in peacetime
    1. +9
      27 February 2020 20: 34
      44th Guards Tank Berdichevskaya, Orders of Lenin, Red Banner, Orders of Suvorov, Kutuzov, Bogdan Khmelnitsky, Red Star, Orders of Sukhe Bator, Red Banner of the MPR Brigade "Revolutionary Mongolia". In 1986, at a tank repair plant in Atamanovka, I met such a thirty-four from Ulaanbaatar. This is one of the tanks of that brigade, which were handed over to the MPR after the war. They are great, in all this "democratic" mess, they remember with dignity our military commonwealth. I even managed to drive this tank behind the levers.
    2. +3
      27 February 2020 21: 26
      Special thanks to the Mongols for the short fur coats. A product of strategic importance. Thanks for the meat supply.
  13. 0
    27 February 2020 19: 56
    All participants must be called. To remind you once again that you no longer need to try to cut borders with weapons. Some started to forget.
  14. +7
    27 February 2020 19: 57
    SS 33 Charlemagne Waffen-Grenadier Division


    They were not allowed into Moscow then, but now they will march through Red Square.
    1. +2
      27 February 2020 20: 45
      These are not, but the descendants of those who fought against fascism, why not?
    2. +4
      27 February 2020 21: 33
      As I understand it, the cons were instructed by secret SS men on the site.
  15. +6
    27 February 2020 19: 58
    We played. An invitation to Macron would have been enough. Not the kind of Frenchman who would chirp in a parade across Red Square!
  16. +6
    27 February 2020 19: 58
    This is probably a political step, I would not do that.
  17. +3
    27 February 2020 20: 06
    I would like to see English sailors ... It's a pity they won't come
  18. -4
    27 February 2020 20: 43
    Now there is a struggle to remake history, in which we are losing to the collective West. Therefore, the right decision is to look for allies, to unite them around ourselves and a single victory. Slowly, a coalition will form. In addition, it will contribute to the split of NATO. In foreign policy, everything is being done well, playing on contradictions, yesterday's enemy, today's neutral, yesterday's neutral is today's friend. Initially, someone else's Macron is slowly being remade into his own, he did not forget Trump's knocking down dandruff from his shoulder.
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      +3
      27 February 2020 21: 37
      Quote: Resident of the Urals
      Now there is a struggle to remake history, in which we are losing to the collective West.

      Not "We" are losing, but our leadership.
      Quote: Resident of the Urals
      we must look for allies, unite them around ourselves and unite victory.

      But these very "allies" are not even visible on the horizon.
      Quote: Resident of the Urals
      In foreign policy, everything is being done well, playing on contradictions, yesterday's enemy, today's neutral, yesterday's neutral is today's friend.

      Yes, yes, so many "friends" appeared .. Can you list them?
  19. +1
    27 February 2020 21: 27
    We deeply honor the memory of the French servicemen who fought together with the Red Army against a common enemy.

    Some kind of madhouse ... an alternative story ..... And what is the beginning? What did the USSR do when Germany took Paris?
  20. +1
    27 February 2020 21: 48
    In short, Hello Bordeaux laughing
  21. 0
    27 February 2020 22: 04
    The French were different. Someone fought with Hitler, someone against him. This should not deprive the French of the right to celebrate the Victory. And it's better if they celebrate with us.
  22. -4
    27 February 2020 22: 06
    The "victoriousness" began. Everyone was smoothed: Americans, British, Poles, Ukrainians, Belarusians, now the French got it. Well, invite your beloved Chinese and the combined regiment of oligarchs with double or triple citizenship.
    As for the French war against the USSR, how many citizens of the USSR fought together with the Wehrmacht against the USSR? I'm not talking about the millions of our compatriots who worked in German military factories, air defense, in agriculture. How many policemen we had (who en masse, starting from 1943, became partisans). It is necessary to invite the Germans too - how many German anti-fascists were there? How many Germans perished in concentration camps?
    In general, it is a shame and shame to read these cave comments. Sing further posture by your oligarchs, who "carry out the plan very well" ... well, in general, you understand.
  23. +1
    27 February 2020 22: 06
    Erdogan, Erdogan must be invited! Armenian radio reported that his grandfather and father were secret Stalinists and during the war they held their fists for the Red Army! I speak the truth!
  24. +2
    27 February 2020 22: 23
    With regards to politics, perhaps it is necessary to invite "everyone" in a row, knowing the opinion (majority) of the opinion of Russians, the "frogs" do not deserve to celebrate ... unless ... surrender (in their own country). Reading various sources, it turns out that the Soviet "soldier" was responsible for the cowardice of some Europe. hmm
    1. -4
      27 February 2020 23: 07
      All amicably poured a tub of slop on the French.
      There is a reason.
      And if there is at least one Frenchman on the site, does he have the right to ask a counter question?
      In principle, one comrade already set him above

      - HOW did the USSR react when the Germans took Paris?
      The Frenchman asks. Do you have anything to say to him?

      It seems that the USSR congratulated the Wehrmacht on a "brilliant victory"?
      N'est-ce pas?
      1. 0
        28 February 2020 01: 38
        And that the Union was obliged to protect the French from Hitler? Almost all of Europe, as a port girl, surrendered to the Nazis, I was in France and she is a big country, they took her very quickly, they just came and took her without any sane resistance, but it could have been if the authorities had wanted it.
  25. +7
    27 February 2020 22: 43
    Who about what - and I'm talking about the northern convoys. The Poles lost their territory - everyone knows this fact. Many have heard about the destroyer "Burza", but many did not know that he went to the convoy to us. And about the Polish destroyers "Garland", "Piorin", "Orkan", that the northern convoys were guarded, many have not heard. Remember the submarine "Hawk"? It had to be flooded ("friendly fire", your soul bast shoes!) May 02, 1942 during the escort of the PQ-15 convoy, after the attack of the British minesweeper "Segal" and the Norwegian one! destroyer! "St. Albans", 5 Polish submariners were killed, 6 were injured. The Norwegians lost their territory, like the Poles .... And the Norwegians also had the Stord destroyer, the Akantus, Tansberg Castle, Iglantine corvettes, armed trawlers: Tromoy, Stern, Eloy "- that the northern convoys were guarded ... And their tarnsports carried goods to us ...
    And France lost territory. Here are just their sailors, along with the Poles on the "Garland", on the armed trawler "Retriever" and the corvette "Rosalis" guarded in May 1942 PQ-16. It was the French on the "Rosalis" who approached the board of the burning, after a direct hit by a bomb in the forecastle (where the anti-aircraft gun stood), the steamer "Old Bolshevik" (it was loaded with cars and ammunition) and put out the fire together with the crew of our steamer, after 8 hours the fire was extinguished . 36 hours after the bombing, the Old Bolshevik, having buried the dead in the sea: the gun commander Nikolai Nikiforenko, the gunner Pavel Karamshanov, the carriers of the old-timers Gerhard Kukharzhevsky, Trofim Piscus, Nikolai Gavrilov, took his place in the march order. The escort commander (naturally an Englishman) offered Captain Ivan Ivanovich Afanasyev and the crew to leave the ship and finish off the "Old Bolshevik". The escort commander received a refusal. Another Englishman, the commander of the destroyer "Martin", under bombs, sent a cutter with surgeon Rance Wallace to our transport. Having rendered first aid to our wounded sailor, the surgeon transported three, the most severe, on a boat to the "Martin" and operated on under the bombing ....
    I don’t know how the USSR and France noted those who were on the Rosalis. I don’t know how Great Britain and the USSR celebrated the feat of the surgeon ... Ivan Ivanovich Afanasiev, Boris Ivanovich Akazenok, Konstantin Maksimovich Petrovsky received the gold stars of Heroes on 28.06.1942/XNUMX/XNUMX. The entire crew of the ship "Old Bolshevik" was awarded state awards, and I.I. Afanasiev and senior mechanic N.I. Pugachev were also awarded British orders ...
    PQ-17 was guarded by the French submarine "Minerve" ...
    You can write a long article about Canada's participation in the northern convoys ...
    And my mother's entire family believed that they survived in Arkhangelsk in 1942 only because they allowed part of the Canadian wheat that they brought in caravans to leave in the city. According to the cards, the norm for issuing bread was increased. Potatoes and carrots with cabbage in their swamp on Brevennik Island were not born at all in the 42nd. They also saved the goats, the blessing of birch and willow brooms imposed a lot ...
    How to evaluate the role of sailors of the French, Poles, Norwegians, Canadians? And the sailors of the USA and Great Britain? To invite them to the parade? And the Brazilian infantry must pass on Red Square?
  26. -3
    27 February 2020 23: 12
    what kind of French soldiers can be in the parade, which is carried out according to the Charter of the Garrison
    Services of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation. And there it is spelled out to the smallest detail that all actions of the parade participants must comply with the Military Charter of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation. And in order to fulfill the requirements and provisions of the Charters of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, for this, military personnel must be sworn in by the Military Oath of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation. Since the parade command
    there will be a Russian general, but in the parade formation under his command there will be one unit
    which has not taken the Military Oath of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation and is not subject to the Charter of the Garrison Service and the Combat Charter
    which regulate and oblige everything and everyone with regard to the Military Parade in the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, then it will be
    anything, but not the Military Parade, according to the Charter of the RF Armed Forces. But the commander of the parade, General
    after all, Shoigu will report to the host of the parade that ... THE TROOPS OF THE MOSCOW GARRISON TO
    THE PARADE IS BUILT...
    I would like to wish Russia that it does not look for friends where they have never been. Among the French
    army. Let the French military come to Moscow on May 9 and look at the Military Parade of the RF Armed Forces from the stands. In the Parade, by letter of the Charter of the RF Armed Forces, the grandchildren and great-grandchildren of the victorious Soldier ...
    1. 0
      27 February 2020 23: 36
      Quote: north 2
      And there it is spelled out to the smallest detail that all actions of the parade participants must comply with the Military Charter of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation





      1. -2
        28 February 2020 01: 24
        so in these photographs there is a parade, and not the Military Parade of the Russian Armed Forces, since the Military Parade in the Armed Forces
        The RF should be carried out only according to the letter and the charter of the Garrison Service and the Combat Charter of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation.
        Look at the Charter of the Garrison Service and they will remind you there what a Military Parade in the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation is
        1. -2
          28 February 2020 07: 39
          you will poke at others and at others, but you and I didn’t drink brotherhood, you write nonsense and at the same time be rude
  27. 0
    28 February 2020 08: 26
    Quote: Thick
    Quote: Yehudi Menuhin
    So then it turns out that the States should also be called the Britons. They also invested a lot

    The whole big four received invitations long ago

    The leadership of Great Britain and the United States do not know how to respond to an invitation to come to Russia to celebrate the 75th anniversary of the end of the Great Patriotic War. First, they faced the question of whether to go to Moscow. Secondly, Great Britain and the United States do not know whom, if they agree, to send to Russia. Thirdly, the situation is complicated by the unpredictability of the head of the American state, Donald Trump, who notes that French President Emmanuel Macron has already agreed to come to Moscow. However, he did not consult NATO allies. London and Washington fear that now their refusal to visit Russia may be regarded as a split in the West. Also, politicians can be accused of disrespectful attitude to the memory of the Victory over Nazism and to the victims of Nazism.

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