Lukashenko said forcing Belarus to integrate

Belarus intends to follow the path of real integration, but does not accept "compulsion to integrate." President of Belarus Alexander Lukashenko began to discuss integration issues with the first president of the Russian Federation, Boris Yeltsin.

A conversation between the Belarusian President and Chairman of the Board of the Eurasian Economic Commission Mikhail Myasnikovich took place on this subject.

Even at the time when Boris Yeltsin was the president of the Russian Federation, the Republic of Belarus advocated a real rapprochement between the two countries, their enterprises, economic relations, people's lives and other things. But at the same time they had to remain sovereign and independent:

We then did not say at all that someone should lose sovereignty and independence. With all the difficulties in those days, we found solutions to complex issues. When the rich, especially Russia, began an incomprehensible crush and fuss.

The leader of Belarus emphasized that the EAEU needs to develop integration processes. This is especially true for industry and agriculture.

Lukashenko believes that the Eurasian Economic Union has not yet been able to implement the principles that were laid down at its creation. There is still no free movement of products, services, labor and investments within the borders of the EAEU. But this, according to Lukashenko, is the foundation for the existence of our economic union.

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[St Petrov]

The independence of the shards of the Empire is a disease. It is time for Lukashenka to think about his people, and not about his ambitions.
Only with Russia Belarusians will increase their pension, allowance, salary and living standards in general

[210ox]

In this I agree with you. Initially, the organization of the USSR from the national republics was erroneous. And this came back in the future.

[St Petrov]

5 independent people do not agree, they want loans, oil, the market (which is 18 (!) Times bigger than the Republic of Belarus), and instead of sovereignty, there are full pockets

Selyuk logic

[SAG]

Lukashenko said forcing Belarus to integrate

Big politician, and so much aching. Who complains is not clear ?! Well, show someone whose eggs you so value independence, solve all your economic problems independently without Russia. But you can’t - integrate, the people will only say thanks.

[maidan.izrailovich]

Selyuk logic

Stupid selyuki do not understand that replacing open and honest relations with Russia is forcing the West to engage in non-traditional sex.

[Gardamir]

Do not worry, Russia is tailored to the same principle. And how it comes around can only be assumed.

[St Petrov]

Do not worry, Russia is tailored to the same principle. And how it comes around can only be assumed.

oh come on, you’ll tolerate at least half a century more. The neighboring half of the country is groaning and waiting and waiting - when Russia is all. And you are the same hopeless hopeful.

PS are you minusers, champion of the independence of Belarus?

[Gardamir]

Phenomenally! A man is so obsessed with his hatred that he himself did not understand what he wrote.
For example, I am for United Russia! What would not Tatarstan, but the Kazan province ...

[Ovrag]

And the Tatars were asked? Or do you think they are untrue and have no right to their state?

[Gardamir]

Voooot! Like you shared the Union, now you want to divide Russia. For some reason, they did not worry about the Tatars in the Russian Empire, they lived in the province. And if everyone suffers from the past, then let’s consistently, everything is as then.

[Ovrag]

The Union collapsed completely different. Resource economy (the USSR died at the moment when one Moldovan decided that it would be time to score on all this industrialization and get money from oil and other resources. Moreover, to get currency) and as a result a huge bolt hammered on the development of other areas of the economy. Everything else is just a consequence. This time.
Two. When there was a king. It was floated. Nobody cares. Now a different era and other people. If you deny them the right to self-determination and drive them into submission. Do not be surprised to be greeted with bayonets.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Ovrag

The Union collapsed completely different. Resource economy (the USSR died at the moment when one Moldavian decided

Where did you get so much garbage in your head, Goebbels or his followers didn’t tell you.

[Ovrag]

This garbage is called - the economy and the state. Politics and economics never exist and did not exist separately from each other.
And the state in the first place is a system of distribution and control of resources between the ruling factions and the population. Everything else is already derived from these basic tasks. And if it so happened that the resources are not dependent on the population in any way. That very quickly this population becomes a whole - no need. And then you can endlessly climb into the details. But globally there is nothing complicated. Where the money is coming from. Those spheres also develop.
All commodity economies of the world work on a single principle. There is a certain basic state income, which is distributed among the ruling elite. In this case, it is the currency from the sale of oil, gas, metals and timber. And there is everything else. Which actually becomes a burden. Where there are fewer people (Emirates, etc.) there it is solved by simply throwing money at the population. Moreover, there was no talk about any development of the human potential. The 20th anniversary of expensive oil has not brought us the greatest Arab engineers and entrepreneurs.
In countries with a large population - such as Russia. So it’s not a ride. For all, as they say - not enough. Therefore, no one is in a hurry to give Russians gold. But hungry and rebellious people are not a gift either. Therefore, some bits from the master's table still reach people.
And vice versa. When you have only the corpus callosum of your population from resources. You will be forced to develop this very human capital. Thus, all the super economies of the countries of Southeast Asia were obtained. Which for half a century got out of bamboo huts into skyscrapers.
But Goebels, by the way, was not a fool. If you separate the personality and the results of the work of this person. And from there you can learn a lot of useful things.

[Alexga]

Goebels may not be mentioned, but in your analysis I completely agree.

[Victor N]

A sick imagination is a social danger. I'm afraid therapy is impossible.

[Tatyana]

Quote: Ovrag

Now a different era and other people. If you deny them the right to self-determination and drive them into submission. Do not be surprised to be greeted with bayonets.

But Russians have been doing what you think for 100 years already? Continue to be fertilizer for the prosperity of small nationalist peoples ?! Do you have a conscience? Or did you eat her cat?
The trouble is that you don’t know how to live together and build a multinational state! Have not grown yet yourself to this, think with your image of rural feudal residents!
You, too, are neither friends nor brothers to the Russian people!
See the Russian question in the video below at 5:32 min.

The AMF Discussed Amendments to the Constitution. M.Delyagin 18.02.2020/XNUMX/XNUMX | Yaroslavl.Online

[Ovrag]

But Russians have been doing what you think for 100 years already?

I already wrote below. For the very, very beginning.
Try to build. His. Nation state. And only then, as it happens. Do the rest. In the meantime, the Russians. On their land, they are powerless. And they’re already building an empire.

[Tatyana]

Quote: Ovrag

Try to build. His. Nation state. And only then, as it happens.

And we already had it. Free our Russian lands, which the Bolsheviks gave you for use! And then give us your advice!

[Ovrag]

Yeah. It was. The Romans also had an empire. Try not to pick. And at least restore order in those lands that you already have. Start at least with the European part of Russia.
From the fact that in the Russian Federation will increase land. There will be no more order. And the Russian people will not start living easier.

[Tatyana]

Quote: Ovrag

Yeah. It was. The Romans also had an empire. Try not to pick. And at least restore order in those lands that you already have. Start at least with the European part of Russia.

Exactly ! All of you are here!
Would you write, Ravine, at least to yourself from what foreign country you are, that such "caviar" against the Russian mosque! It's just that even for national political science it is already interesting.

[Ovrag]

There is a proposal to the Russians to become masters at least on their own land, where they now live - this is "against the Russians." I have a lot of questions for you.
I’m Russian myself. From St. Petersburg. And I want to live in a state where the Russians will not be second or third after the Chechens, Dagestanis and others like them.
But you are going exactly from the Caucasus. Or where else. Once you have such proposals with hostility.

[Victor N]

In your case, only long-term social isolation will help.

[Ovrag]

Well, then I recommend you to go to the army first. So to speak, soak up the spirit of camaraderie. And that’s funny. Ringed site. And then there weren't those who served the campaign. But every third fist shakes. From the couch.

[Tatyana]

Quote: Ovrag

Try to build. His. Nation state. And only then, as it happens. Do the rest. In the meantime, the Russians. On their land, they are powerless. And they’re already building an empire.

Do you propose that the Russians build their national state on the territory of the Russian Federation within Moscow and the Moscow Region?

In this case, the following will be noteworthy.
If during the collapse of the USSR, outside the Russian Federation, 25 million ethnic Russians turned out to be nation-states - former titular national Soviet Socialist Republics in the position of apartheid, then how many million ethnic Russians would then be outside the borders of Moscow and the Moscow Region in administrative territorial units titular nationality in the Russian Federation?
Have you ever asked this question?

Well, and then what will you be better than the pro-Western Trotskyist Social Democrats with their demands to divide the Republic of Ingushetia on a national-territorial basis? Yes, nothing!

[Victor N]

It was the Russians who created Russia - the Great State, in which many peoples warmed. And not like the US Indians. And everyone needs to participate in the improvement of the country. Belarus is a product of separatism; it cannot survive by itself, although it still does not understand this. And independent Tatarstan is complete nonsense ...

[Piramidon]

Quote: Ovrag

restore order in those lands that you already have

Well, finally he showed his yellow-black block affiliation. "YOU". That says it all, you are our Svidomo. And then the vest pulled on itself and writhed out of itself awesomely Russian patriot.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Ovrag

I already wrote below. For the very, very beginning.
Try to build.

According to your words, I realized that you are not a Russian person and not a Slav. But what a troll, that's for sure.

[Xnumx vis]

Hello unknown Svidomo friend! Well, sho there. Yak right, sho pennies, chi dumb? And then I look here grazing ...

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: Ovrag

If you deny them the right to self-determination and drive them into submission. Do not be surprised to be greeted with bayonets.

To each village according to its independence, to the president and parliament! To each kryzhopel and muho.ransku freedom and independence ...

[tihonmarine]

Quote: 30 vis

To each village according to its independence, to the president and parliament!

Each village "Ruspublika SHKID" !!! And in one by the President of Ovraga.

[Piramidon]

Quote: Ovrag

The Union collapsed completely different. Resource Economics

For some reason, it fell apart not in resource areas, but rather in national ones. Lenin drew the borders of the republics, and the Union burst along them.

When there was a king. It was floated.

Tsars of Russia from the specific principalities to the Russian Empire collected, and people like you again tear it into specific principalities.

Now a different era and other people. If you deny them the right to self-determination and drive them into submission.

These are typical statements of Western Liebers and demagoguery. Try to run into the UK and invite them to "self-define" Ireland. Or to Spain with their Basques. Look at the "beacon of democracy" - the United States, for which (democracy) you are here with both hands. Do they have Huronian, Iroquois, Delaware, Mohican, ... republics? In one country, everyone should be equal.

[Ovrag]

For some reason, it didn’t fall into resource areas.

Wow? Those. the fact that almost all the main oil-bearing regions remained in the Russian Federation is not shared by resources?
Approx.
And do not confuse cause and effect. Separation is already a consequence of a change in core policy. When everyone (from Moscow to Baku) realized that instead of developing human potential, you can simply sell resources (who has what) for currency and live like that ... Then the political elite reformatted very quickly. After all, with the collapse of the USSR, no political elites have changed. These were all the same people. Only now it’s just that each person stuffed his own pocket. And he didn’t send it to Moscow either. Well, Moscow has withdrawn its obligation to feed someone there in Asia.
This is what I am writing about. A change in the economic basis of the state also changed its domestic political agenda. The consequence of which was already reformatting the union.

And then how can you not read smart guys here. So the impression is that the union was ruined by some aliens. And not the same GBshniki, party and so on. Who just got off the load of social services. responsibility. Stupid because "you don't need a population in a country where profits come from the bowels."

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: Gardamir

For some reason, they did not worry about the Tatars in the Russian Empire, they lived in the province. And if everyone suffers from the past, then let’s consistently, everything is as then.

In the early 2000s, with GDP, they dealt with the problem of the conformity of national federal constitutions. In Tatar, for example, they discovered about 200 contradictions. If we take into account that regional law cannot contradict the Federal law, it turns out that the same one, for example, Tatarstan in the 90s of sovereignty drank heartily. I even heard conversations in Nurlat that if Tataria left Russia, then Tatneft and Kamaz themselves would have lived quite well - not figs, like, to feed that Russia. And the story that at the entrance to Tatar the traffic cops took all the vodka - did Kazan protect its producers and forbade the import of vodka from Russia to Tatarstan? And Kamaz Tatar vodka, which in the neighboring regions were exchanged for grain and the Tatar collective farms fulfilled the plan for grain set by Kazan?

Fortunately, Big Babai turned out to be smarter - he tweaked the Constitution and quickly covered up such conversations.

And recently, everything was - the end of the 90s, just something ...

[Xenofont]

Well, the local elite didn’t hide their dreams of independence, either with the Russian language, “visits”, or close cooperation with Turkish NGOs, etc. The non-extension of the Yeltsin agreement on sovereignty and insane tax privileges had a great impact. And this is not so easy to forget.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Zoldat_A

And recently, everything was - the end of the 90s, just something ...

Each bug wants to drink more blood.

[Fat]

Quote: tihonmarine

Quote: Zoldat_A

And recently, everything was - the end of the 90s, just something ...

Each bug wants to drink more blood.

Yeah, and preferably not far away from the place of permanent residence))))

[fraders]

not only Tatarstan suffered from this, even Bashkiria - the Gaits directly declared to the transit countries, we have our own rules here, the Russian rules here do not

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: fraders

not only Tatarstan suffered from this, even Bashkiria - the Gaits directly declared to the transit countries, we have our own rules here, the Russian rules here do not

Survived those times, thank God. I’ll drink a stack so they don’t come back.

[dgonni]

Well, if you need to consistently pay Kazan a tribute in the form of tithing.

[Xenofont]

Yes, they paid until last year according to an agreement of 10 years ago.

[Piramidon]

Quote: Ovrag

And the Tatars were asked?

And what are the Tatars, Chechens or Mordvins better than me? Why are they privileged? In our Vologda region, a bunch of nationalities live compactly in the villages. Let's chop it up into all sorts of Veps, Lapp, Izhora, Koryak ... republics. And let each have a president and a government. First, Lenin did a great stupidity, dividing the country into national republics, then Yeltsin drunkenly yelled - "Take sovereignty as you want", now you are worried about the Tatars. There was Kazan province and they lived there normally. ...

[Ovrag]

Nothing. Therefore, I advise. Let's start by building a Russian national state. Where the rights of the Russian people will not be lower than the rights of any thread of the Chechens. What next. You can already look around.

[Piramidon]

Quote: Ovrag

Nothing. Therefore, I advise. Let's start by building a Russian national state. Where the rights of the Russian people will not be lower than the rights of any thread of the Chechens. What next. You can already look around.

Well done, quickly changed shoes. Either he was worried about the sovereign Tatars, and now, it seems, he was for the "Russian state".

[Ovrag]

That you change shoes in the air. Covering fascist slogans with some kind of good ideas.
I am for every nation to live on its own land. By conscience and faith. We have Scandinavia nearby. And even Sweden is not in a hurry to back everyone under the Swedish crown. Although from the point of view of the Nazis, it is inapplicable to restore its former vilichy, subjugating Finland, Norway and Denmark. And also England. Well, like this. For they have the right.

[Piramidon]

Quote: Ovrag

I am for every nation to live on its own land.

We have one state, one land, one Russia. and not figs like you pulling it along your national corners.

[Ovrag]

You hike Russophobe is still one.
Tatars have their own republic. The Chechens have their own republic. The Bashkirs, the Buryats, the Adygeans and so on.
But to the Russians. No no. Russian is not allowed. Look what you thought. Concentrate and preserve their socio-cultural characteristics.
Who are you by name? Doesn’t it download in an hour?

[Sergej1972]

The Russian Federation is primarily a Russian state. Russian 80% in the whole country. In the Russian regions, that is, in the territories, regions, Moscow, St. Petersburg, Sevastopol, 82% of the population live, and they give 90% of the country's GDP. And, as I already wrote, in a significant part of the republics of the Russian Federation, Russians predominate, and in most others they make up the majority of the population in a significant part of their territory.

[Ovrag]

Then why is there not a word about this in the Constitution of the Russian Federation? There is about multinationality - yes. But not a word about the Russians. Not about the Russians. Not about Orthodoxy. And it's not about the place of residence. It's about the banal preservation of Russian culture. Which is virtually extinct. Dissolved. I am sure that the maximum representation of the majority of young people about "Russian culture" is a blouse, balalaika and accordion. A. Well, vodka. Somewhere without her.
All that we have. Russian language. Which being lingua-franco in the post-USSR is changing further and further according to the trends and currents.

[Sergej1972]

We have a lot of territories in the republics of the Russian Federation, where Russians predominate. Sometimes in the republic there are entirely Russians in the absolute majority - Adygea, Mordovia, Khakassia, Karelia, Buryatia. And the officials and deputies there are also mostly Russians. Or there is no absolute ethnic majority at all, everyone lives in a mixed and inter-striped way, but Russians constitute a relative majority. An example is Bashkiria. In other types of Yakutia and Tataria, Russians are at least slightly less than "titular" ones, but they make up 40-45% of the population, and in a significant part of the territory of these republics they absolutely prevail numerically. On the other hand, three-quarters of the Tatars do not live in Tatarstan, but are scattered throughout Russia. The same can be said about the Mordovians. Or, in the huge Khanty-Mansi Autonomous Okrug, out of 1 million 670 thousand of the population of the Khanty and Mansi, taken together, 30 thousand, that is, in the region of two percent. What to do with this?

[Ovrag]

Nobody urges everyone to shove across the republics. This is nonsense.
In fact, a very simple question. To which the locals react with continuous russophobic and fascist statements. But no one answered him.
I can ask him again. Why the same Tatars can have their own republic within the Russian Federation. Can’t Russians be? Why are Russians worse?

[St Petrov]

Where are the rights рRussian people will not be lower than rights any thread Чthe Yechens.

you deserve to beard from both Russians and Chechens

[Ovrag]

Did you serve in the army? Had a platoon with the Doug?
If not. I can tell you what they are doing there with the Russians. Who suddenly decided that the Dagestanis were their "brothers".

[Piramidon]

Quote: Ovrag

Did you serve in the army? Had a platoon with the Doug?
If not. I can tell you what they are doing there with the Russians. Who suddenly decided that the Dagestanis were their "brothers".

You are contradicting yourself. You rush about like a louse on a comb, changing your shoes while jumping. Then you need to provide each "self-determiner" with his "national apartment". Now they are already non-brothers to you.

[Ovrag]

Because brotherhood is not. This is such a myth. There is a profitable neighborhood.
And the answer is about dag. This is the answer to those who think that if they begin to cave in under others. The "others" will love them for this. Don't bend over. But domination is the same path to nowhere. Because sooner or later - it ends. Recipe for success. In a healthy, mutually beneficial relationship. On an equal footing. And for equal rights. Russians need a republic where these rights are reflected. Not only state. language. But also traditions. beliefs, etc.
Do you think why the Dagis do not respect the Russians (not all of course, but we are now specifically about the armada)? Yes, that's it. For them, the Russians are some kind of rabble. Without clan and tribe. Which cannot even stand up for its own.
When a guy of 5 dugs flew into our guy from an outfit in the kitchen. The whole canteen sat and watched as they swill him. Just a couple of people entered. And then they lay down in the infirmary. And then of course. Everyone has come. So to speak. Express condolences. Well, something like that. Yo yo yo

[ghby]

Quote: Ovrag

Russians need a republic where these rights are reflected. Not only state. tongue. But also traditions. beliefs, etc.

calm down already, in fact, the Russian state-forming people. and they will write about it in the constitution, at least Putin supported

The director of the Hermitage Mikhail Piotrovsky proposed changing the provisions of the Russian Constitution on languages ​​at a meeting of the working group. His initiative was supported by Vladimir Putin. “Certainly, this will be a good acquisition for the Basic Law, and this wording, I read it:“ The official language of the Russian Federation throughout its territory is Russian as the language of a nation-forming nation, ”the head of state said. He also liked the proposed article 68.4 of the Constitution that the Russian Federation “guaranteed the preservation of ethnocultural and linguistic diversity”. “The combination of the first with the second - it seems to me that this will work very well,” the president concluded.

The President also supported the idea of ​​including an amendment to the Constitution in order to consolidate the fact that marriage is a union of a man and a woman.

[St Petrov]

Did you serve in the army? Had a platoon with the Doug?

he served in the North Caucasus Military District, with a battery of 120 soldiers — there were about 30 Russians; the rest were representatives of the peoples of the Caucasus. Residents of Dagestan were also. More questions?
Or do you want to tell that there are no people there? Or that they are not satisfying?

When a guy of 5 dugs flew into our guy from an outfit in the kitchen. The whole canteen sat and watched as they swill him. Just a couple of people entered.

a fight in the dining room .. what kind of commanders did you have there were waffles. Did the officers also sit? Did the sergeants also sit? There were no seniors?

Rave. I can’t even imagine that the DINING was boiling. In the Barracks at night, still okay, on the ground of the slaughter, but so that at the time of eating.

[Victor N]

It is hard to see from under the baseboard, you need to climb the social ladder - and the correct panorama opens - who, where and with what. Every Russian (Mordvin, Boring .....) is where they managed to climb in the social hierarchy.

[Ovrag]

Well, if you are hard to see from under the baseboard. Sorry.
Personally, I served. And he started comrades from all over the great country. And in life rose. And I see what happens below on earth. What happens to ordinary Russian people. And I see how people like you apparently just enjoy making them plunge into the mud over and over again. Trying to pit them with the Ukrainians, then with the Belarusians. That is with the Tatars.
We are all children of the same power. Albeit woven from many nations. In Tuvin's house, I respect his order. Visiting the Caucasus, I respect their way of life. But people like you cannot sleep in a calm country. You need the Belarusians to "shut up", so that the Tatars "shut up", etc. And it doesn't matter why and why. Just because you like it so much. Probably when you hear the Tatars speak Tatar, your saliva drips from rabies.
It is people like you who will destroy Russia. Pitting the nations against each other.

[Sergej1972]

And if you come to Neryungri, will you respect the Russian or Yakut order ?. Like Yakutia, but at the same time the vast majority of the population is Russian. And what kind of Saransk will you respect? Russians, after all, the vast majority of Russians in the city, or Moksha, or Erzya, is it the capital of Mordovia? And I met Caucasians, who themselves hate some of their customs. How to communicate with them?

[Victor N]

I trampled the sand on the Afghan border as an ordinary: not a platoon, not a company, but an outfit of two people. This is when the Homeland begins behind me. I respect Afghans: people with a strong sense of dignity.

[Thrifty]

Ovrag - Aren't you a nationalist for an hour? Your comment draws on an article of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation, for calls for the collapse of the Russian Federation you can get a solid term!

[Ovrag]

It is you who are leading the Russian Federation to collapse by all means, urging you to shut up the Tatars, etc.
RF - Federation. And every nation in this federation must have its own land.

[Sergej1972]

It so happened. that the mass of peoples in Russia historically lives mixed. Therefore, in many cases it is difficult to say whose land it is. Rather, it is a common territory of several peoples. On the other hand, historically this or that land is indigenous to some people, but Russians there can make up 60-90% of the population, and live for centuries in this territory. And most of the small nations of the Russian Federation have never had and do not have their own constituent entities of the federation. If you give each people of Dagestan a separate autonomy, you will have to divide it into 30 pieces of larger or smaller size. For Evenki, Nenets, their native land is almost a fifth of Russia, but there are several tens of thousands of them, and mostly in most of their territory they are in a clear minority. However, the number of people, the degree of compactness of residence, and general level of economic and cultural development.

[shark]

Their state is Russia. They have no other!

[carstorm 11]

besides rights, you still need ooooooochen a lot of things. make a separate state around which all of Russia must still guess)))

[Ovrag]

RF. This is a federation. What is a federation. You can find out on wikipedia. But I give a hint. It is a union of various "states" in the form of republics and a certain number of regions and federal districts that are not republics.
So here. I see no reason why the Russians could not have their republic in the federation. Let it be, for example, the Moscow People's Republic, which will include all areas of the European part of Russia where Russians historically live. Where the status of the Russian ethnic group will be fixed at the level of the constitution. Just like it was done in the Tatar or Chechen Republic. And that’s it. Everyone is happy.

[Sergej1972]

And why Russian, for example, Kaliningrad, Kemerovo, Novosibirsk, Tomsk, Irkutsk, Amur regions, Krasnodar, Altai, Krasnoyarsk, Primorsky, Trans-Baikal and Stavropol territories, republics such as Crimea, Khakassia, Komi, Mordovia, Buryatia can not enter this hypothetical republic? They make up the vast majority in these territories, and also live there historically. Are they second-rate Russians?
In general, federations are created from below, from previously independent entities (contractual), there are created from above, by the decision of the central government, by converting a unitary state into a federal state (constitutional). We, like the Belgians. for example, we treat artificial federations of this kind created from above. And the US Federation is constitutionally negotiated. At first there was a voluntary union of 13 states, to which subsequently, either voluntarily, or through capture or purchase, vast, many times large territories were annexed. And these territories first became part of the territory of the United States, and only then gradually transformed into states.
Of course, we have made up with this federation; it is not organic for Russia. It would be better to have a unitary regionalist state with a number of national autonomies of different levels, with an individual degree of independence. One type of autonomy for Tatarstan, another for small (by population) and underdeveloped Kalmykia. In parallel with this, cultural and national autonomy. But now this kind of option is unrealistic. For a hundred-plus years, the population of the Russian Federation has become accustomed to a federation, albeit a formal one.

[Ovrag]

Are they second-rate Russians?

Are Russians living in Tatarstan second-class people?

How does the geography of residence affect this?
I’ll write for the hundredth time. The republic is not needed in order to drive all Russians from all over Russia there. Just as they do not drive all the Tatars to Tatarstan from all over Russia. The republic is needed only for the preservation and development of, first and foremost, Russian culture and the Russian historical heritage. In fact, the rest of the republics perform exactly the same function. They allow other nations to consolidate and preserve certain cultural and social traditions at the legislative level, preserving and sometimes even developing them in a separate region, historical for this people. And only Russians, as if somehow, did not have hundreds of years of cultural development. Only homo-sovieticus. And that’s it.

[Victor N]

Russian ethnos created the whole state RUSSIA! Who doesn’t know ?! Therefore, one cannot distinguish Russian regions from the Russian state; it is ALL Russian. Such a selection would be like isolating a ball in a booth: sit and bow. Russia is the entire RUSSIAN state.

[Victor N]

This is a foolish boy, a dropout, regardless of age: do not waste time, it is useless ...

[Lannan Shi]

Quote: Ovrag

And the Tatars were asked? Or do you think they are untrue and have no right to their state?

And let’s start to divide your Israel on a national basis, into a dozen pieces? But when will you travel from tel aviv to haifa, across 5-6 borders, then we’ll talk for the rights of the Tatars?

[Ovrag]

What does Israel have to do with it? Or do you have any problems with the Jews? Are you not a Nazi for an hour?

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: Ovrag

What does Israel have to do with it? Or do you have any problems with the Jews? Are you not a Nazi for an hour?

Palestinians have problems with you.

[Ovrag]

With St. Petersburg? I have not heard. But be sure to ask.
Are you a Palestinian? I clarify. Because the first time I hear this. But suddenly you know more than me. So to speak firsthand.

But this still does not answer the question, what problems do you have with the Jews then?
Because the Russian Federation and Israel are friendly countries. Whose friendship is held at the highest level.
Vladimir Vladimirovich even pardoned the Israeli woman for smuggling drugs. Having acted very noble.

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: Ovrag

With St. Petersburg?

Petersburgers they are different. Peter is not a nationality. Judging by your submissions in terms of self-determination of peoples on the territory of Russia, you are most likely an advocate of the independent Ingermanlandia, or something similar (Veps or Sami).

Quote: Ovrag

But this still does not answer the question, what problems do you have with the Jews then?

I have no problems with the Jews. Palestinians have it.

Quote: Ovrag

Vladimir Vladimirovich even had mercy on an Israeli woman for smuggling drugs. Acting very noble.

This is debatable. Crime must be punishable. The inevitability of punishment has not been canceled. The court is independent. Before the law, everyone is equal. And here, although a gesture of goodwill, but still it is an occasion to doubt the above postulates.

[Ovrag]

I already wrote what I stand for. I am a champion of the Russian ethnic state within the Russian Federation. In order for the Russian ethnos to have the opportunity at the constitutional level to consolidate its cultural and national characteristics. Just as it was done in other republics of our country. Thus, not only preserving, but also concentrating all their socio-cultural characteristics, which in the future will allow them to go through years and centuries. But it will not dissolve in the maelstrom of the next stormy changes.

But the campaign will realize that in the event of the emergence of such a republic, it will not work out so dashingly to knock Russians against other nationalities with their foreheads, there are very many across the throat here. After all, while the Russians do not have "their own", then you can safely throw them on others. Shutting up Tatars, Belarusians, etc.

I have no problems with the Jews. Palestinians have it.

Well, let them understand each other there. I personally do not care. I can still understand the Russian leadership. It creeps into these matters for obvious reasons. Starting from the fact that the creation of Israel is also the work of the Soviet Union and ending with the fact that only having built strong relations with such regional leaders as Turkey and Izrial, Russia has a good opportunity to gain a foothold in the region for a long time. Finally, start to capitalize on this.

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: Ovrag

I already wrote what I stand for. I am a champion of the Russian ethnic state within the Russian Federation.

This verbiage and hidden incitement to separatism. The Russian state in the Russian Federation ?! Russia is the state created by the Russian ethnic groupin which, in addition to Russians, another 200 peoples and ethnic groups coexist perfectly. There are 22 republics in Russia. Why then are you not advocating 200 republics, one for each of the peoples living and denying them such a right? More than 40 peoples live in Dagestan, of which 12 are ethnically close. Let us and Dagestan pokromsom on the republic. Should each mountaineer have his own mountain? What you propose is the second step towards the collapse of Russia. Yeltsin took the first step when, in 1991, he declared Russia's independence from the USSR.

[Ovrag]

Russia is the state created by the Russian ethnic group

Yeah. And where about this ethnos even a word in "his" state? Where is even a word about his religion? About his culture?
AND? Tell me. Maybe I'm not reading there.
Only now has a chance appeared to affirm at least religion in the constitution. And that. Most likely wrapped.

Why then you do not advocate 200 republics

Because with a friend you can break something. The creation of republics should be based on rational motives. Russian in Russia, unlike many other nationalities, is clearly not a couple of tens of thousands of people.

The republics being created must be adequately territorially controlled, etc., etc.

What you propose is the second step towards the collapse of Russia.

A step towards the collapse of Russia is once again to leave the Russian people with their noses. Without clan, tribe and religion. Such a people will not be able to do anything when their country begins to be torn. As has already been more than once or twice in the 20th century. Without support. You will not get a strong state.

[Piramidon]

Quote: Ovrag

Are you not a Nazi for an hour?

Are you a Jew or a Tatar?

[Ovrag]

Homo sapiens. But you - people measuring the ruler of the skull - do not understand.

[Piramidon]

Quote: Ovrag

Homo sapiens.

I doubt the sapiens account. Looks like homo-trollyticus.

[Ovrag]

Yes, even to be an orangutan to me. But at least not to become like some here, a bunch of Russophobes, anti-Semites, fascists and Nazis.

[Fat]

Quote: Ovrag

And the Tatars were asked? Or do you think they are untrue and have no right to their state?

Orphan of Kazan?
They asked!
Smart with the federation.
Those who are sick for the oppressed Tatars are sick people.
... Well, just to steer it. To the question: how? they reasonably answer: But we dance and sing, and we also have oil.
And it makes no difference that new Belarusian oil refineries from Europe do not digest this raw material. And the raw materials through the pipeline and three areas ....
Is interregional cooperation from Slyunyaev taxis? So Slyunyaev now sweeps trash in St. Petersburg under a different surname ...
My area from advanced inter-regional filth was enough for another 5-10 years.
Kostroma residents were not asked either.
Something never occurred to anyone ...

[Vladimir_6]

Quote: Ovrag

And the Tatars were asked? Or do you think they are untrue and have no right to their state?

Is this like Lesotho or the Vatican?

[St Petrov]

but why are you ashamed, you are against unification. Write it as it is. "I minus" because I am an independent and for an independent

And then about Russia began here. It's about Belarus and the Russian Federation. Write as is.

[Roman070280]

Man is so obsessed with his hatred

There is nothing humane for a long time ..))

[dSK]

To have energy resources at the "prices of the Smolensk region", one must be a subject of the Russian Federation.
When you "earn" on the left supplies to the ally of the "sanctioned" food, then this is -

incomprehensible crush and fuss.

[Bolbot]

Changing the state system only in a referendum. I doubt that the Tatars will agree.

[Sergej1972]

But in the case of Tatarstan, I believe that nothing needs to be touched. Well developed, fairly large republic. Relations between the Tatars and the Russians are normal. But its fate should be decided only by its inhabitants, regardless of nationality. But the Tatars who live outside its territory, and almost three quarters of them, can have a purely deliberative voice. They must have a decisive voice in determining the fate of those regions, territories, republics where they constantly reside.
It is better not to touch Tatarstan, Bashkiria, Dagestan, Chechnya. In these 4 republics, by the way, more than 40% of the population of the republics of the Russian Federation lives, of which there are only 22. Probably, one should not also touch Chuvashia and the other republics of the North Caucasus. Some doubts about Adygea, surrounded on all sides by the Krasnodar Territory. But for the rest, you can think about changing the status and / or boundaries. But to act on the principle "not sure of the result, do not change anything."

[Bolbot]

And what for all this concoction chef. Do not be dashing while it is quiet. We have a federation of emigrants, and Indigenous peoples. Not a union of lands as in Germany or territories, but a union of peoples. And a country is strong while a union of peoples is strong. If so worried about the equality of Russians, form the Russian republic.

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: 210ox

Initially, the organization of the USSR from the national republics was erroneous. And this came back in the future.

Zhirinovsky, among other things, spoke about this in the very beginning of the 90s. That this is a mine laid under the USSR at its creation. Only everyone considered him a clown and no one took him seriously. But he spoke at least 10 years before their creation about federal districts, for example. Yes, and much more.

And yes. I'm not a terrible fan of Zhirinovsky, but simply - "he said the same" ....

[tihonmarine]

Quote: 210ox

Initially, the organization of the USSR from national republics was erroneous.

No wonder the kings switched to the provincial system, not the national one.

[DNS-a42]

Under the kings, there were no political nations in the modern sense, and the kings could not have divided the territories according to the nationality if they wanted to.

[Fat]

Quote: tihonmarine

Quote: 210ox

Initially, the organization of the USSR from national republics was erroneous.

No wonder the kings switched to the provincial system, not the national one.

Oh ... Nedorulil Alexander III ...

[DNS-a42]

And why did unitary RI break up? Maybe the matter is not in the structure of the country, but in the current policy, in socio-economic relations?

Here, for example, the opinion of one famous statesman:
IN AND. Stalin: "Tsarism deliberately cultivated patriarchal-feudal oppression on the outskirts in order to keep the masses in slavery and ignorance. Tsarism deliberately populated the best corners of the outskirts with colonial elements in order to push the local national masses into the worst regions and intensify ethnic strife. Tsarism oppressed, and sometimes It simply abolished the local school, theater, educational institutions in order to keep the masses in darkness. Tsarism suppressed any initiative of the best people of the local population. Finally, tsarism killed all activity of the popular masses of the outskirts. All this gave rise to the deepest mistrust among the local national masses, sometimes passing over into hostile relations, towards everything Russian. "

[dSK]

But how Georgia "blossomed" under Stalin.

[Malyuta]

Quote: 210ox

In this I agree with you. Initially, the organization of the USSR from the national republics was erroneous. And this came back in the future.

In order to argue on this topic, you need to know the historical processes of that time. After the February Revolution, many provinces announced their independence, the republics of Transcaucasia, Ukraine, the Baltic states separated. It was possible to gather the empire back only in the only way — by creating the USSR; there simply was no other way!

[Victor N]

At the time of the proclamation of the USSR, power had already strengthened, but deliberately multiplied nations and nationalities in order to claim leadership in the world revolution. This, my friend, is the personal ambitions of the leaders (greetings from the Pushkin old woman!).

[Malyuta]

We read Stalin!

We are for the self-determination of peoples, but we are opposed to smuggling the autocracy of Kaledin under the flag of self-determination, who yesterday advocated strangling Finland.
("Answer to comrades Ukrainians in the rear and at the front" vol. 4, page 8.)

We are for the Ukrainian Republic, but we are opposed to covering the sworn enemies of the people, the monarchists Kaledin and Rodzianko, who were still advocating the restoration of the old regime and the death penalty for soldiers, with the flag of the republic.
("Answer to comrades Ukrainians in the rear and at the front" vol. 4, page 9.)

The bourgeois press declares that we have led the country to complete collapse, we have lost a number of countries, including Finland. But, comrades, we could not lose it, for in fact it was never our property. If we kept Finland by force, it would not mean that we had acquired it.
("On the independence of Finland" v.4 p.23.)

The so-called independence of the so-called independent Georgia, Armenia, Poland, Finland, etc. there is only a deceptive appearance, covering up the complete dependence of these, so to speak, states on one or another group of imperialists.
("The policy of the Soviet government on the national question in Russia" v. 4, p. 353.)

Is it not clear that federalism in Russia does not and cannot solve the national question, that it only confuses and complicates its quixotic efforts to turn back the wheel of history?
No, the proposal to do the experience of America in 1776 in Russia is positively unsuitable. The half-transitional form — the federation — cannot satisfy the interests of democracy.
The solution to the national question should be as vital as radical and final, namely:
1) the right to secession for those nations inhabiting certain regions of Russia that cannot, do not want to remain within the framework of the whole;
2) political autonomy in the framework of a single (cohesive state) with uniform constitutional provisions for areas that differ in a known national composition and remain within the framework of the whole.
So and only so should the question of the regions in Russia be resolved.
("Against federalism" v.3 p.28.)

Obviously, the only regime capable of resolving the national question, that is, the regime capable of creating conditions ensuring peaceful cohabitation and fraternal cooperation of various nations and tribes, is the regime of Soviet power, the regime of the dictatorship of the proletariat.
It is hardly necessary to prove that under the dominance of capital, private ownership of the means of production and the existence of classes, the equal rights of nations cannot be ensured, that while there is power of capital, while there is a struggle for the possession of means of production, there can be no equal rights of nations, just as there may be cooperation between the working masses of nations.
("X Congress of the RCP (B.)" Vol. 5 p. 38.)

[Bolbot]

Learn history, then either the USSR is a union of national republics, or Russia within the boundaries of the non-black soil

[Sergej1972]

So the RSFSR at the time of the creation of the USSR had an area of ​​21 million square meters. km And in 1936 already 17 million square meters. km

[Victor N]

And when Putin said this, they squealed very loudly.

[Alex Justice]

In this I agree with you. Initially, the organization of the USSR from the national republics was erroneous. And this came back in the future.

Lenin laid the bomb. What was he thinking? It seems like a smart man.

[Retvizan 8]

I think the brotherly people of Belarus, with real integration with Russia, could live an order of magnitude better, as it was in principle with the USSR, only Lukashenko runs around his throne and drives away those who reign on his reign, under beautiful talk about independence and that when everything is united captured by Russian oligarchs.

[Arlen]

In 1995, a referendum was held in Belarus. One of the questions was: "Do you support the president's actions aimed at economic integration with Russia?" More than 80% of the population of Belarus supported integration with Russia. Now Lukashenko is starting to put a spoke in the wheels of the integration process between the fraternal countries of Russia and Belarus. Doel me, the position of the President of Belarus remains unclear. Why is he doing this? What does he want to achieve by his actions?

[DNS-a42]

Capitalist integration is the submission of a weak oligarch to a strong, and not an equal union of peoples, as the USSR was. Hence all the problems.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: DNS-a42

Capitalist integration is the submission of a weak oligarch to a strong one,

A good example of this is the entire American continent (Canada is excluded).

[St Petrov]

equal union of peoples

this is when the Russian economy adjusts to the economy of Belarus.
H - independence. P - equality.

Capitalist integration is the submission of a weak oligarch to a strong

normally everything was explained to you there. Invested as expected. Lukashenko did not lose time, he spread the people for the olegarchs and the capitalist RF, who want to absorb the successful Republic of Belarus, which itself can do anything.

But I do not think so for everybody, it was not fluid in someone’s head and they did not succumb to the silky, complex logic tied to small-town nationalism

[DNS-a42]

Quote: c-Petrov

normally everything was explained to you there. Invested as expected. Lukashenko did not lose time, he spread the people for the olegarchs and the capitalist RF, who want to absorb the successful Republic of Belarus, which itself can do anything.

They themselves came up with a thesis for me, they themselves argue with him. Well done.

I repeat, there is a bargain: conditions are being determined on which Belarusian bourgeoisie are ready to lie under Russian ones. But all sorts of pseudo-patriots here are trying to rub about some kind of national unity.

Quote: c-Petrov

But I do not think so for everybody, it was not fluid in someone’s head and they did not succumb to the silky, complex logic tied to small-town nationalism

Someone has small-town nationalism in his head, and someone else has great power, and normal people on both sides are forced to put up with all of you.

[St Petrov]

and normal people on both sides are forced to endure you all.

people tolerate independence and think: "When will the Selyuk at the helm play enough of this game?"
Here in Ukraine have already suffered. Squatted.

But all sorts of pseudo-patriots here are trying to rub about some kind of national unity.

they also want to remove the borders and the Belarusian Foreign Ministry to dissolve, what are you thinking of
They also encroach on the Great Belarusian Economy (WBE)

[Malyuta]

Quote: Arlen

More than 80% of the population of Belarus supported integration with Russia. Now Lukashenko is starting to put sticks in the wheels of the integration process between the fraternal countries of Russia and Belarus. Until me, the position of the President of Belarus remains unclear. Why is he doing this? What does he want to achieve with his actions?

I explain on the fingers. Old Man does not want Russian oligarchs in full force to sit on the neck of the Belarusian people, destroy the social network, bring Asians to the Republic of Belarus, disfigured the Belarusian economy, seize and destroy Belarusian plants and factories, optimize, that is, destroy the Belarusian health care, science, and education.
Hope now understand?

[St Petrov]

Hope now understand?

no

mutilated the Belarusian economy

captured and destroyed Belarusian plants

destroyed Belarusian health care, science, and education.

what a gloom

Successful and beautiful Belarusian economy, against the background of the Russian disfigured by olegarchs, is an example of the Kremlin’s success and envy

Therefore, the Kremlin wants to devour it - so that it doesn’t blow your head out of success

Now the truth is: Rosekonomika credits Belarus - because it’s not necessary to work beautiful

At first I liked to read economic Selyuk from the outskirts - advocates of independence. How much was burning. But you decided to keep up.

Burn. Independence is really some kind of virus. Well, it is necessary on the move, so that to the end. So that the economic analysis from the non-devotees can be read even more enchantingly

[Malyuta]

Quote: s-t Petrov

Now it's true: Rosekonomika lends to Belarus - because it’s not necessary to work beautiful

Many myths in the minds of Ur-Skakuas zombie propaganda spawned. To prove something, I don’t see the point, but I’ll note a few circumstances 1) In order to sit down, one must go there.
2) The population of Maskvabad is 15 million, and Bolorussia is 10! Maskvabal contains the whole country, so what?
3) Compare the costs of the Russian Federation for an incomprehensible war in Syria and even your fictitious data on the "content" of RB.
4) If you want to have a border near Smolensk, then continue in the same spirit, push the ally by all available means.
5) At the moment, with obviousness, it can be argued that the policy regarding the Union republics is completely failed by the country's leadership. For 20 years, we have managed to make an enemy of ourselves around the entire perimeter of the Russian Federation, managing to make even our original brothers enemies.
Threat. Continue to ride further and rejoice at the successes of the Millers, Sechins, Rotenbergs, Deripaskas, Mordashovs, Friedman and others like them.

[St Petrov]

Many myths in the minds of Ur-Skakuas zombie propaganda spawned.

this is you to the point. the rest is, of course, a champion of independence. I sympathize with you and understand that a lot of money has been invested in what you would think about it about everything from such an angle. And not only Lukashenko. Serious people from the coalition of several countries have been doing this and are doing it.

Population masquabad

for this it is necessary to ban and cut right away from the site, I think.

Compare the costs of the Russian Federation for an incomprehensible war in Syria and even your fictitious data on the "content" of RB.

show your numbers. and we will be essentially.

If you want to have a border near Smolensk, then continue in the same spirit, repel an ally in all available ways.

not you will decide it. This issue will be decided by Moscow.

the rest I see no reason to comment. there were so many. I would replace in one word. But alas. It’s impossible here

[AU Ivanov.]

It is enough for Belarus to cancel preferences and everything that you listed above will collapse on its own. No external influences.

[Victor N]

Already observed, the first signs have appeared.

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: Malyuta

I explain on the fingers. Old Man does not want Russian oligarchs in full force to sit on the neck of the Belarusian people, destroy the social network, bring Asians to the Republic of Belarus, disfigured the Belarusian economy, seize and destroy Belarusian plants and factories, optimize, that is, destroy the Belarusian health care, science, and education.
Hope now understand?

Well, there are five fingers on the hand, as many on the other. We take the Crimea and begin to bend at your points. Even as no one bends! And the Crimeans on the neck, nasolezhennye Russian-oligarchic seat are not complaining. You have a respected problem, both with arguments and with examples.

[Malyuta]

Quote: Nyrobsky

And the Crimeans on the neck, nasolozhennye Russian-oligarchic seat are not complaining

And you go to the Crimea and ask the locals, they say what and how?

Quote: Nyrobsky

You have a respected problem, both with arguments and with examples.

That's when everything in your head connects.

[St Petrov]

And you go to the Crimea and ask the locals, they say what and how?

Every year. I haven't seen anyone whining yet. I see them only on the Internet and in "Crimea-realia"

Just in case, what to ask? I’m going again soon. What can they live without Ukrainian pensions, utility bills and laws, what is it like to live without rags? Or should I ask some other question?

Although what am I waiting for ... You're saturated with independence. 30 years of processing did not go in vain.

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: Malyuta

And you go to the Crimea and ask the locals, they say what and how?

Yes, those who complained of plywood for the season of five two-story chicken coops built and rented to tourists, but those who illegally grabbed the beaches and chopped cabbage for the opportunity to lie on it. Wild Ukrainian business, bypassing the law and all sorts of norms, where any issue was decided by the size of the bribe, suffered losses with the transfer to Russian jurisdiction, not without it.

[St Petrov]

Yes, it’s Lukashenko sitting under this account.

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: c-Petrov

Yes, it’s Lukashenko sitting under this account.

Or an official close to the president of Belarus.

[New Year day]

Quote: Nyrobsky

... yes, those who illegally seized the beaches of beaches ...

now - differently? We open the Sevastopol site, read ... "How the beach is taken away from Sevastopol residents"
https://sevastopol.su/news/kak-u-sevastopolcev-plyazh-otobrali

[Victor N]

In Crimea, the epidemic is a dislike to pay taxes. We dreamed of setting up birdhouses and then charging a fee from visitors and getting high. And they did not notice how they turned from masters into servants.

[New Year day]

Quote: Victor N

dislike to pay taxes.

there is such a thing! The most interesting thing in another! There are very few cash registers in stores, although for 6 years in the legal avenue of the Russian Federation, 6 years tax, supposedly works, but no cash registers
And this is all over the Crimea. The question is randomness or regularity?

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: Arlen

For me, the position of the President of Belarus remains unclear. Why is he doing this? What does he want to achieve with his actions?

Grygorich does not want to lose power and influence. Although it would seem, what is easier? - propose holding a national referendum in the Russian Federation and Belarus on the issue of unification into a single state? Elementary. Let the peoples themselves decide whether they want to be together, and not the presidents to whom these peoples have given power. The result will be in favor of combining with a decent margin above 50%. But Lukashenko is just afraid of this result and does not want it.
P / S- And as our sworn "friends" in the USA and Europe do not want this, then in general it is a tryndet.
PPS - The peoples decide that it is better apart, so be it. And Lukashenka will calm down, and the "oligarchs" will wipe their drool. We will interact according to world standards, without any discounts for brotherhood.

[Victor N]

He wants to achieve the throne by his actions, it’s obvious: he warmed up.

[Malyuta]

Quote: Retvizan 8

and about the fact that upon unification everything will be captured by Russian oligarchs.

They will certainly capture, there’s nothing to argue about.

[St Petrov]

They will certainly capture, there’s nothing to argue about.

[carstorm 11]

yeah. and most importantly there is so much to want to capture)))) mountains of gold)

[NEXUS]

Lukashenko believes that the Eurasian Economic Union has not yet been able to implement the principles that were laid down at its creation.

Dad clings to his chair, and therefore makes such statements. In Belarus, he is the king, and as part of the Russian Federation, he will be the boss on the top shelf of the outhouse.

[AK1972]

I often travel to Belarus. I have not heard a single good word about Lukashenko. one shot under the glass: Industry collapsed, in s.kh. although they give housing for free, but you have a lot of salaries below the baseboard, there are a lot of oligarchs, and we have one, everything that is in state ownership is actually owned by the Old Man.

[Bolbot]

The question is, at whose expense will increase. The law of conservation has not been canceled. And so they are with Russia, no further. But to increase dependence, and to promote a loyal elite, yes, it is necessary.

[St Petrov]

The question is, at whose expense will increase.

due to the budget of the Russian Federation. As before - as now. Everything in Belarus is supported by the budget of the Russian Federation.
If we remove our subsidies and preferences - everything will sprinkle.
In Belarus, the population is one third of the city of Moscow. Russia will pull. How Crimea pulled.

[Sergej1972]

Well, not a third, of course. Moscow is officially 12 million, and Belarus more than 9,5 million. Although, I think, in fact, much more people live in Moscow.

[orionvitt]

Quote: s-t Petrov

It's time for Lukashenka to think already

This spirited elk, which for some reason everyone calls "dad", his demagoguery, is already beginning to get bored. Feels like the chair is wobbling.

[Roman070280]

Only with Russia Belarusians will increase their pension, allowance, salary and living standards in general

Thin trolling ..))

It is time for Lukashenka to think about his people, and not about his ambitions.

It’s time for Putin to think about the people, and not how to sit on the throne ..
Mutuzili, Mutuzili Luka .. nothing happened .. I had to rush with the State Council something to muddle, so that under any pretext to amend the Constitution on the redistribution of powers ..

[St Petrov]

Thin trolling ..))

your reflection is priceless.

It’s time for Putin to think about the people, and not how to sit on the throne ..

it’s time for you to turn on your head and stop moaning.

[Roman070280]

Stop whining here, get down to business .. follow Putin to agitate at stops where they really are ready to spit on him, but here and so everything is for him ..))

[St Petrov]

follow Putin agitate at stops

what for? you’re getting used to reality so well. Putin has been at the helm for 20 years. And on the forums, these moans are wet - you just pretend

[Roman070280]

What for?

That you yourself must answer ..))

А on the forums these moans are wet

And they told you - stop whining and moaning here, get down to business .. go for Putin agitate at the stops where they really are ready to spit, but now everything is for him ..

[carstorm 11]

another Selyuk came to teach life?) Do you know the expression, without snotty we can figure it out?)

[Roman070280]

Selyuki they are .. until you send-they will not fly ..))

[carstorm 11]

nobody touched him at all. read his statements 2 or 3 years ago. he himself promoted this integration in all matters and said that it was going slowly. and when it really had to start abruptly before its elections back popper. pulled him well. all are directly tired.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: s-t Petrov

Only with Russia Belarusians will increase their pension, allowance, salary and living standards in general

I really liked your words about pensions.

[ficus2003]

And most importantly, Ukraine, Libya, Syria, Afghanistan, etc. will not be made of them from Russia.

[lis-ik]

Quote: s-t Petrov

Only with Russia Belarusians will increase their pension,

Pity the Belarusians, if, as with our pension, it’s better not.

[Alexga]

There is still no free movement of products, services, labor and investments within the borders of the EAEU.

Without fulfilling these conditions, what kind of union can we talk about?

[Berber]

Yes, of course - "Belarusian" salmon, parmesan, jamon, shrimps, etc. this is for us, and we give them free oil, gas and loans. Will the daddy's face crack? The ass from sitting on several chairs is already cracking.
Indeed, power blinds.

[210ox]

Speaking of salmon and shrimp. Let me remind you that initially it came from our business. And further on Belarusians and customs officers of both countries joined this profit.

[Alexga]

Yes, do not pay attention to such statements. It is difficult to convince a programmed bot.

[Berber]

The question is - who is responsible for this? Second - who benefits from it? And third - who condones the Western sanctions policy? Will you be able to answer, then you three "Ku" from my face. (Programmed bot).
I personally saw the dad’s performance, where he advised to seize the moment and be mediators.

[210ox]

It is beneficial primarily to our traders and those who feed around (customs officers, inspections, etc.). No demand, no supply.

[carstorm 11]

no. it was not so. at all. it’s not in our or their business. this is generally the tenth thing. business reacts to opportunities. empty space is always filled. when Russia introduced counter sanctions, the Republic of Belarus got an opportunity where everyone rushed. Lukashenko had every opportunity to support us, but he didn’t. re-export has become billions in revenue. and it’s not in rubles. it could be stopped within a day, but Lukashenko did not do this. RB continued certification of imported products and our customs continued to catch it. and only a year ago, the Belarusian side announced the termination of certification of fruit and vegetable products arriving from third countries for customs clearance on the territory of Belarus and further re-export to Russia. The specified measure will concern exclusively those products that are included in the list of economic response measures of the Russian Federation. 5 years were asked to be threatened and punished. you understand, in addition to the left product, it also received certificates of the Republic of Belarus. The Rosselkhoznadzor repeatedly appealed to the Belarusian State Inspectorate about the need to confirm the authenticity of phytosanitary certificates for products cleared in Belarus and re-exported to Russia. But I did not get a full response.
At the same time, the Rosselkhoznadzor itself had to establish the authenticity of those phytosanitary certificates that Belarus issued for exported goods. Do you understand that even here we incurred a bunch of costs and did not earn? What did they deliver to us?

[Lelek]

"The leader of Belarus stressed that the EAEU needs to develop integration processes. This is especially true for industry and agriculture."

Yeah, the weather vane turned east after the west turned back to the Republic of Belarus. Where will he (the Belarusian weather vane) turn next week?

[St Petrov]

in China he was also hinted transparently. It doesn’t work in Selyuk

[210ox]

By the way, only strong and large countries have "independence". All the rest are clientele theirs.

[St Petrov]

yes it’s a fairy tale for the proper omnivorous audience, which can be put into the head, anything.

[orionvitt]

I am very afraid that Belarus will face the fate of Libya, and Lukashenko, the fate of Gaddafi. The only difference is that Lukashenka, flirting with the West and hoping to remain tsar, will surrender everything himself. But he will receive the same as Gaddafi, in extreme cases, the Hague. He doesn't teach history at all. The scenario is so-so, but knowing the "Western friends", it is quite real.

[Paranoid50]

Quote: orionvitt

and Lukashenko, the fate of Gaddafi.

Did he lend Sarkozy too?

Quote: orionvitt

as a last resort The Hague.

And when did they manage to rename only Rostov-on-Don?

[Sergey39]

I would immediately give the MZKT and oil refineries - there would be no coercion.

[New Year day]

Quote: Sergey39

I would immediately give the MZKT and oil refineries - there would be no coercion.

what else to give ....?

[Sergey39]

Quote: Silvestr

what else to give ....?

To sell. Wrong expressed.

[Alexga]

The key to the building on Mogilev, where the money is!

[Thrifty]

The Eurasian Union is dead by his efforts! Integration is the process of saving the remnants of the economy of Belarus, from cheaper Chinese goods, from the sale of enterprises according to the Ukrainian scenario. And, in general, it would be time for Lukashenko to retire, otherwise she also dreams of the crown! That look, will amend the constitution of Belarus, according to which he has the right to be in power dr.

[Sidor Amenpodestovich]

Belarus may not last so long.

[Lelek]

Quote: Thrifty

... it’s time for Lukashenko to rest ...

In general, yes, but where is the guarantee that some "waltzman" or "Korchinsky" will not come to his place (God forgive me).

[bar]

He’s preparing Kolya’s son for successors.

[Alexey RA]

We then did not say at all that someone should lose sovereignty and independence. With all the difficulties in those days, we found solutions to complex issues. When the rich, especially Russia, began an incomprehensible crush and fuss.

- When I started working in Belarus at almost every meeting with journalists, and in general the media sounded a different, then very popular question: "How does Russia feel about the fact that Belarus refuses to deploy a military base?" And when they asked me once again, I explained to reporters that Russia cannot be refused, since since 2015 it has not asked anyone about this. Moreover, she simply does not need this base, since any military task will be guaranteed to be solved by existing capabilities. And after that the question disappeared by itself, at least I can’t hear it and can’t see it anymore.

So on the issue of Belarus joining the Russian Federation - this was not just offered to anyone, but on the contrary, the President of the Russian Federation repeatedly and publicly and in private conversations with the President of Belarus brought his position: Russia stands exclusively for bilateral mutually beneficial development of the Union State if our Belarusian friends want this. If you don’t want to, we can develop any other integration format of relations.

In this regard, on the issue of protecting sovereignty everyone, I think, would like to understand for a long time who is encroaching on Belarusian sovereignty and from whom they want to protect it? If this is a threat from the West, by analogy with the well-known “color” revolutions and coups d'etat, then the Russian Federation, as an ally, if such a request is received, together with Belarus will defend this sovereignty by all available means. If these are hints of Russia, then this is not at all partner-like, and even if it is just an electoral technology called “mobilizing the electorate by forming the image of the enemy”, it is hardly reasonable to implement such technology through relations with the closest ally and fraternal people. Russia did not deserve such an attitude.

© Babich
And from the same interview:

I can only say that it is not necessary to teach Russia and its government how to live, especially since there are enough people who want it in the world. The Government of the Russian Federation, under the leadership of the President, in the most difficult economic and geopolitical conditions has achieved such results that ensure the successful development of not only Russia, but also significantly contribute to the stable socio-economic development of Belarus.

[Sergey Averchenkov]

I don’t understand something, but is integration bad? I stupidly did not understand, is he trying to maintain his position or is he thinking about peoples?

[St Petrov]

about nations?

peopleе

- You and I are of the same blood, you and I -

[Sergey Averchenkov]

Yes you are right.

[Roman070280]

Those proposals for integration that he received from the Russian Federation were made not just with thoughts about the people / s, but with the goal of preserving the position .. That's the whole story ..

[Askold Matveev]

Belarus intends to follow the path of real integration, but does not accept "compulsion to integrate."

I don’t understand Lukoshenko. Either he wants integration, then he is forced. Make one decision and follow it. And there’s nothing to do with populism.

[knn54]

They make him ... want.

[orionvitt]

Quote: Askold Matveev

I don’t understand Lukoshenko.

Yes, it’s not surprising to understand him. He says he ruled for twenty-five years, give me the imperial throne.

[faterdom]

Everyone liked to negotiate with Yeltsin. So, "to friend Ryu" during a joint vacation on Lake Baikal, in response to some incomprehensible crap about some islands there, Tsar Boris exhaled: "Yes, take it ..."
And he went to sleep in the cabin. Ryuitaro Hashimoto excitedly began to run around the ship and pester Korzhakov about the telephone connection with Japan. Korzhakov and the rest had to convince the samurai all night that the tsar was "joking," he himself could neither confirm nor deny anything all this time, in the morning - as if it were gone - he did not remember anything.
From the book of A. Korzhakov's memoirs "B. Yeltsin. From Dusk Till Dawn".

[St Petrov]

darkness of course

[Amateur]

You can’t be a little pregnant

Folk wisdom

[rotkiv04]

This mustachioed mug got out, fell into its geyropu, they will quickly carry out geyropizatsiya and unscrew the eggs

[Dym71]

Just picked up the eggs, as soon as the milk disappeared

[Calm]

Our father will dissolve during integration, and he understands this, and all his 3 sons may remain out of work

[Sergej1972]

Tatars did not dissolve. They have a strong republic. And immigrants from Tatarstan occupy many posts at the federal level. And Belarus almost three times exceeds the population of Tatarstan.

[Calm]

Well, this is actually a temporary phenomenon. When I went to school in the 2000s, the Tatar language was compulsory and now it is not, and Shaimiev made a huge contribution to the Republic and inherited a lot from him, when they sent the governor from Moscow to monitor the city and not the local Khan, then the culture and color of the local population will begin to disappear quietly, so in principle there is no identity.

[Operator]

Rygorych spins in a frying pan

[Ovrag]

Most Belarusians do not want to Russia.
But for Russians, before building their new empire, it would be nice to build at least one national Russian state. And while in the Russian Federation anyone has rights. But not among the Russian population. Do the Chechens? Yes. Tatars? Yes. Do Dagestanis? Also. Do Russians? Sit - keep quiet.

[exalibor]

Most Belarusians do not want to Russia.

why do you think so? did you interview them for example, I want ... and% 80 of my social circle is also for unification. This question is generally simple to solve - they held a referendum and decided whether the people want or not .... and there is nothing for him to broadcast on behalf of the people that the people want independence (the people want a quiet life ... because he openly bought everyone up with his board ...) - then it will become clear whether to unite or not ... However, he will never do it ... because people are likely to speak out for unification ...

[Ovrag]

Yes. I asked. Is that enough?
Roll down. The benefit is not far. In May. In the same Brest. And ask the same thing. Behind. Only 60+ generation. But every day they are less and less. And life has long been in the hands of those who are 30-40 years old.

[exalibor]

Quote: Ovrag

Yes. I asked. Is that enough?
Roll down. The benefit is not far. In May. In the same Brest. And ask the same thing. Behind. Only 60+ generation. But every day they are less and less. And life has long been in the hands of those who are 30-40 years old.

No, not enough ... I live there ... only in Gomel .... in Minsk I also talked ... and for some reason, regardless of age, most are for ... except for some representatives of the Belarusian Popular Front ... so what? there western regions here eastern people will naturally differ

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

I am a simple citizen and I will be glad to unite. If the same ordinary people in Belarus want union. If not. That will remain, mutually solvent neighbors. And there’s no brotherhood, community, and so on. For everything you need to pay and each other, respect.

[Ovrag]

People there are justifiably afraid of the following things - Russian business. And Russian quality.
They know firsthand what quality the same food is on the shelves of Russian stores. Well, local business understands that as soon as Moscow arrives. Im a lid. And have to or be sold. Or leave. Moreover, the lid is not only for those who sit high. Even a small IPshnik will not be able to do anything when Pyaterochka looks into his city. Devour and do not choke.

[AU Ivanov.]

In recent years, Belarusian products have also lost a lot of quality and come close to ours. I went there recently - I was very surprised, this is not what it was five years ago.

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

I like Belarusian products. Let us begin to fear the quality of Belarusian products. As for business, this is competition, primarily where man-to-man-wolf. And on the cries ,, we are brothers and give everything for free ,, - not to survive.

[Ovrag]

There will be no fair competition. There is no such money that is found in the Russian Federation.
They’ll just devour everyone more or less normal.

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

I agree. They will devour. But tired of paying someone else’s sextuple from his own pocket.

[Ovrag]

Everything is simple here. It’s just time for Moscow to solve this issue a long time ago. Are you with us or not. But Moscow is also not ready for such a thing.
Nevertheless, geopolitics is not a policy of ultimatums. These are multi-way parties where sometimes one has to sacrifice one in favor of the other. The loss of Belarus will greatly affect the state of the entire EAC. So the EAC itself may cease to exist. And billions have already been pumped into it.

[Dizel200]

the whole problem is your main and only oligarch, the king of kings))) the government does not want to lose

[Aroma77]

Then they are in Russia inappropriately working on a rotational basis. My brother and his family moved to Russia with his wife, because they cannot live on those salaries that in Belarus, the benefit of many gardens is still being fed, but there is no way to put children in gardens on schools. I can’t say that sugar is in Russia, but the reality is that we still have higher salaries. And life there is not cheaper, unfortunately.

[My_log_in]

on the RIA website, under the same article, they left a comment with the following content: "... they force him, then (quote from the AHL)" they put cancer "- it's time to decide what he wants ..."
It just seems cheaper than ours, nowhere to be found

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

That's for sure. I always said and I say, we don’t need brotherhood, enough solvency. And let Belarus continue to be independent.

[Alien From]

But father becomes a little old, slowly losing his scent ......

[Gennady Fomkin]

We didn’t have time to agree with Putin that they would compensate for the reduction of this duty at the expense of bonuses or something (this is their business) (if, for example, we received $ 1 billion from the duty last year, and today $ 700 million, then $ 300 mln. Russia compensates), in the evening the ministers already interpret our agreements in their own way - the two presidents. I take a recording of the conversation: clearly, in black and white, there was an agreement that the difference would be compensated for. That is, financially, we will remain at the last year's level. This is not the case. Well, what kind of a union is this ", - said the President of Belarus. Belarus unequivocally stands for real integration on the classical principles that the whole world knows.

What are "classical principles"? Lukashenka is talking about something of his own, only he knows?

[Gennady Fomkin]

I do not understand But father. Well, if the Poles have such gas - almost for nothing, then buy it and enjoy life. It doesn’t want everything. Well, Russia injects you with oil at a price that is more expensive than the world’s price, so spit on it in shameless Zenk and buy Arab or African. ... But father or a masochist or a nymphomaniac maniac. Here give him a specific brotherly love at a low price - or he will fight in hysteria until his pulse is lost. A strange, inadequate mustachioed man. Something like Grisha Amnuel.

[Chingachguk]

How does Belarus exist today? On the baryzhnie, he moves the sanctioned goods from Europe and sells them to Russia already under his own brand .... Or has a sea-ocean appeared in Belarus, where the Belarusian company Santabremor catches and packs "its" goods for sale? Maybe oil and gas deposits have been discovered in Belarus? Or does it extort these raw materials under various pretexts cheaper than from anyone else, processes and sells them at world prices to other states? What kind of independence can the president of the country of the parasite on the body of Russia Mr. Lukashenko talk about? How long can you tolerate his growing senile marasmus and the most stupid conclusions? If at the next elections Belarusians again choose this clown, will Russia continue to feed this country at its own expense and listen to reproaches from this idiot Luka?

[Gennady Fomkin]

"It started with forcing Belarus to integrate." Pots If Father after a conversation went out of need, then this is not a compulsion of the whole state.

[Zaurbek]

I'm not like that, I'm waiting for the tram ...

[Gennady Fomkin]

“We remain, as always, committed to real integration without coercion to integration (a new term appeared in the union -“ coercion to integration ”). And it’s strange that it started with coercion to integrate Belarus. You know what this is about,” he said Belarusian leader.

He recalled that, together with the first President of Russia Boris Yeltsin, the Belarusian side has always initiated real integration: “our states - Russia and Belarus, economies, people's lives, and so on. Preserving sovereignty and independence”.

“We didn’t talk at all about the fact that someone should lose sovereignty and independence. With all the difficulties in those days, we found solutions to difficult issues. When we got rich, especially Russia, began an incomprehensible crush and fuss. And, as I said , forcing to integration, "Alexander Lukashenko noted.

The President emphasized that Belarus unequivocally supports real integration on classical principles that the whole world knows. - When trying to escape from the USSR, losing slippers, what was he thinking?

[Andrey Koptelov]

I remember in 2015, here some people called Lukashenka a political prostitute, and they were brutally mined for this.

[Banet vat]

First, restore order in your country, and then climb into Belarus. Few territories to see the poor.

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

First, learn to pay. Then, come forward.

[Aroma77]

And what should the Belarusian resident lose ?! There is certainly nothing from integration, judging by the economy, it is more likely a beneficiary. But princes and mini kings have something to lose. What kind of independence can be said, a country of 10 meters of inhabitants will always be nailed to some coast and blow and dance to one or another tune .. Isn’t it better for her to immediately join her homeland ?!

[Banet vat]

Do you measure everything in money? But what about "Great Russian spirituality"? Looks like all came out in pursuit of the ruble.
Belarusian resident gained independence for the first time. And it must immediately be (in the opinion of the majority present here) exchanged for gas and oil and supposedly giant pensions and salaries. And the fact that the mess in the country, that you are not the master in it, is it diplomatically omitted right? Eat your oligarchs and colonels of billionaires yourself, with Syria and the Donbass in addition.

[St Petrov]

we have order - we are solvent.

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

Lukashenko is unpredictable, like a woman during ,, critical days, ”One should not particularly believe in his statements.

[Podvodnik]

But at the same time they had to remain sovereign and independent:

Interesting, independent and sovereign from whom? From Russia? So who's stopping? Be at least independent, at least sovereign. At least twice in a row. Just why preferences and discounts then ask? Trade how everyone trades. Do not want, say, we are brothers? Well, there’s nothing to do nonsense and shout at every corner about sovereignty and independence, which are not there. Well, not them, even crack. Who needs the products of Belarus, Ukraine? Europe? They don’t know where to sell. And Europe is still alive only because we have collapsed in all sectors and are fusing us our goods, which are in abundance and nowhere to go. And there is practically nothing of ours.

Good chat. You have neither independence nor sovereignty. Join in the form of the Belarusian region, and there will be ALL happiness.

[master 52]

it is impossible to let go of him from Vova

[7,62x54]

And such allies only through coercion and need to be drawn into an alliance. Otherwise, bugs will hang on the body of Russia.

[Dizel200]

The threat of the Republic of Belarus is Grygorich himself. He is the most important and only oligarch in Belarus)))

[Bolbot]

Chot nationalists climbed out of all the cracks. Especially Russians. How is a Russian nationalist better than any other? Anyone leads to discord and collapse.

[St Petrov]

Chot nationalists climbed from all the cracks. Especially Russians.

where?
the second sentence is funny considering the first

[Bolbot]

This is not much fun. We are not in the USA, we are not a country of emigrants, there are not enough plague blankets for all the peoples of the federation.
We are not a union of lands or territories, we are a union of peoples. As soon as the idea of ​​Russian chauvinism prevails, so will Russia.

[Victor March 47]

Quote: c-Petrov

5 independent people do not agree, they want loans, oil, the market (which is 18 (!) Times bigger than the Republic of Belarus), and instead of sovereignty, there are full pockets

Selyuk logic

Prices, domestic, Russian, but being free as the wind, reselling cheap, earning loot, blackmailing with a pipe, threatening to close early warning radars on your territory, conducting exercises at your place with the invitation of NATO units. Would his fart tear?

[mark2]

. There is still no free movement of products, services, labor and investments within the borders of the EAEU.

Sly potato baron. From poorer Belarus, he will send a cheap labor force so that it will bring down prices for services from the local population, and he, of course, hopes for investments from richer members of the EAEU.
For what reason it needs such cooperation. Then the bulk of the jamshuts will begin to come in droves in droves. There are so many of them here.

[Vasyan1971]

Lukashenko said forcing Belarus to integrate

What to do if you need to be constantly forced? Now to the world, then to integration ...

[Gennady Fomkin]

Quote: Bolbot

Chot nationalists climbed out of all the cracks. Especially Russians. How is a Russian nationalist better than any other? Anyone leads to discord and collapse.

And if you again want to speculate how everything is bad in Russia, then do the same honestly. You should not simultaneously vote about the impoverished Russia, and demand from this very poverty masses of nishtyaks. How can we help if they are so poor? We can fit your humanitarian aid somehow. It will be schizophrenic, but honest: to admit that a shabby wretched Russia will not be able to help you. Nothing. And with oil too - you need denyuhek to breed feed hedgehogs. But super-honesty: to stand in the line of equals, and not be an object, but a player. We earn money together. Like the other 85 regions. It is a pity that this honesty is not available to many in Sineokoi.

The master is the master, well.

[Bolbot]

So I do not help for honesty, do not give preferences. And where will RB be, in what union? Regional leadership is expensive. But to make money on it as the same US say, or China does not know how.

[Gennady Fomkin]

Dear comrades, sovereign Belarusian economists! The state independence of the country, for which you are going into a mortal battle with Russia, results in exactly the fact that the problems of the development of your territory in the office of neighboring jurisdictions never concern. And for the development of the fuel complex of the Republic of Belarus, which includes your government’s requisitions for sowing, harvesting, Dozhinki, international competitions in various sports and other non-inclinable show-offs, they also exclusively spit. Including the Russian government, which itself pays for its sovereignty.


And the “cream” in Belarus has long been nothing to remove. But continue to live in such illusions under the slogans "Everything to fight the Russian oligarchy." It will be easier to explain your pants holes. And it will be more pleasant to freeze in holey pants - with a sense of pride

[Bolbot]

So what do you want from the citizens of Belarus? Im these games to the bulb.

[Fat]

Quote: DNS-a42

And why did unitary RI break up? Maybe the matter is not in the structure of the country, but in the current policy, in socio-economic relations?

Counterreformer Alexander III. Peacemaker.
I did not finish unitary Russia. He died in Livadia.
Take a look at the coat of arms.,. Ripples in the eyes ....
Tsar of Poland, God forgive me ...

[Gennady Fomkin]

Quote: Bolbot

So what do you want from the citizens of Belarus? Im these games to the bulb.

I don’t want anything. It's sad but "these games" first of all hit ordinary Belarusians. To have already decided what they need in a situation where there is no more freebie and will never be, and all things are gradually called by their proper names. Maybe they will find a third option. ?

[Edward_zuzenko]

Quote: Gennady Fomkin

Quote: Bolbot

So what do you want from the citizens of Belarus? Im these games to the bulb.

I don’t want anything. It's sad but "these games" first of all hit ordinary Belarusians. To have already decided what they need in a situation where there is no more freebie and will never be, and all things are gradually called by their proper names. Maybe they will find a third option. ?

Belarusian citizens can not do anything with the situation. Even the elections here have been taken away. Vote for us ....
I’ll tell a story that happened to my deceased parents at the presidential election the year before last ... They arrived at the polls with the last bus, pensioners, from the dacha. We went to the polling station, and there, opposite to their names, it was written: they voted. And the signatures are and thrown ballots ... More my father never voted.
Lukashenka’s people here suffer not because everyone likes him, but because the rich locals, the oligarchs, and ordinary people know very well: if changes begin, any, a new government will come - any, the people will be stripped off at first again, as in nineties were. No one wants change, and people and elites themselves will delay them for as long as possible, cling to what is, while it is possible. And so here it is poor for a long time already and there are salaries of $ 70 each.

[north 2]

Stalin made two mistakes.
The first that agreed to the opening of the Second Front at the end of the war.
The second, that after the war, did not abolish all these Soviet republics and did not transform them in the province.
Therefore, with the advent of Khrushchev, they began, and under Brezhnev they continued stroking the head and creating republican power elites only from those who would not say a word against eating Russia
Moscow leaders. And the appetite was growing, the sneakers knew how to approach Moscow in such a way that Russia denied itself a lot, didn’t do much for itself, if only those parasites were fed up. So these republics
formed Supreme Councils whose only dream was that under Gorbachev and Yeltsin Russia
it’s still split and something will fall from these fragments too. Everyone has their separatism from naivety.
Russians, that Russians we’ll circle around the finger, and if we succeed, then we will divide Ross’s ray of wealth ...
But the God of Russia in time gave Putin. By the way, Lukashenko is one of those then republican elites whose people in the USSR were not really a parasite and without shame did not suck the fat udder of Russia, which only now dawned on. no matter how the Baltic states in the USSR received everything from Russia, in
damage to Russia itself. And since the NATO vassals of Lithuania, Latvia, Poland and Ukraine breathe tail and mane Lukashenko, then Lukashenko’s arguments for Moscow are the same as those of the communist
tops in the Republics of the USSR Moscow. That is - give a freebie, only then I will love ..

[Gennady Fomkin]

In the second half of the XNUMXs, the "cunning" Belarusians decided to issue a gesheft to Russia, there was a construction boom and they decided that they are the only smart ones in the world and by dramatically increasing their cement capacities, they can earn billions.

It was decided to modernize the factories. There is no money of its own, no technology either. We took tied loans from the Chinese, hired the same Chinese for the same loans, they modernized factories, but modernized them at their own Chinese discretion. The factories began to work not at all as it was according to plan (the "cunning" Belarusians, as always, chose the cheapest contractors who sold the crappy shit).

In 2009, the construction market collapsed. Then it turned out that Russia has its own capacities, then it turned out that in Russia cement is cheaper than Belarusian, at the price of which modernization and interest on loans were laid. We decided to sell cement to Europe, and there op refused to buy it. As a result, they could drive everything that they could into the nuclear power plant, and then the mustache.

In exactly the same way, there were "modernizations" in woodworking and sugar production:
1. We are the smartest! Take a loan, upgrade and capture the Russian market!
2. Hey Chinese, come here, let me upgrade my plant on credit!
3. Hey, Russians, what are you doing ?! How dare you increase production ?! You are stupid and lazy!
4. Hey, Russians, why is your product cheaper and better ?! Stop capturing our market!
5. Damn .... what to do? How to repay loans? ........ perpetual algorithm

[Victor N]

It happened: they invite me to visit, but I don’t want to go. And where they would consider it an honor, they don’t call. But to stay at home - no urine.
Why should Putin be lured by something? They thought of themselves a lot of superfluous. You yourself will not survive - poor in all respects. And if you please, respect Russia. Or, like Lukashenko, aren’t trained in decent manners?

[The Expendables]

Old Man again poisoned by the bombing of Syria by Turkey ..
How well calculated then .. Especially when China is not up to politics ..
And Russia is praised that we blocked the borders with China .. Oh, how all calculated bastards are illiberal western ..

[Kuzmitsky]

Both Putin and Lukashenko behave correctly. Everyone wants to achieve the best conditions for their country. And then, as in the market - you need to bargain.