SAA defense breached under Serakib: militants advance in three directions

_{The command of the 25th division of the SAA}

The defense of the Syrian government forces crumbled in the area of ​​Seraciba. The militants not only came to the city, took control of it, but also dropped the SAA in three directions at once: eastern, southern and northern.

Under the occupation of terrorists, Seraqib, Wadi Hajj Khalil, Wadi Mekar again returned. The militants managed to completely seize the strategically important road junction M4-M5, while breaking through the defense of the SAA and continuing to advance in the direction of Jubas, Al-Sheikh-Mansur and Al-Marrair.

Supported by Turkish troops, the militants managed to regain control of the M5 road stretch of about 12 km. If there were enough forces and assets, government forces could organize and deliver simultaneous attacks in the northern and southern parts of the formed militant wedge. However, under the onslaught of terrorists, the SAA has not yet managed to regroup and tighten reserves.

The situation with reserves was complicated, including in connection with the loss of the most important section of the highway between Aleppo and Serakib.

However, against this background, the successes of the Syrian government forces in the southern part of the so-called “de-escalation zone” in Idlib are noted. Kafranbel came under the control of the SAA. The advanced units of the Syrian troops are approaching Al-Barah, having advanced over 10 km during the day.

Against this background, the ruling party of Turkey announced that "when the ultimatum for Assad’s troops expires, Turkey will do its job." Earlier in Ankara, it was stated that the Turkish army was ready to “restore the Idlib de-escalation zone” by knocking out “regime troops”.

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[MoJloT]

However, against this background, the successes of the Syrian government forces in the southern part

This may be a temporary occurrence in the region of Seraciba.

[Sergey39]

Southern Idlib came almost entirely under the control of the CAA. And Serakib will soon be taken to the cauldron.

[MoJloT]

And Serakib will soon be taken to the cauldron.

Do you know exactly?

[Sergey39]

"Tigers" will soon come from South Idlib.

[DMoroz]

At 15:02 27.02.2020/XNUMX/XNUMX

Information from a number of Turkish media about the seizure of Syrian "moderate opposition" by the troops of the city of Sarakib in Idlib province is untrue, a military source said. According to him, the Syrian government forces successfully repelled the attacks undertaken by the militants on the city. The interlocutor of the agency assured that the city is under the full control of the Syrian government.

https://www.gazeta.ru/army/2020/02/27/12979057.shtml?utm_source=yxnews&utm_medium=desktop&utm_referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fyandex.ru%2Fnews

[Sergey39]

Now there is so much conflicting information in different sources, you won’t understand. Let's wait until the evening. Much will be clarified.

[DMoroz]

RIA Novosti with RT, TASS and even Gazeta.ru confirm. What about

Let's wait until the evening. Much will be clarified

I agree completely.
Although here's another info:

SANA has denied allegations of the seizure by gangs of the city of Serakib in the Idlib de-escalation zone.
“A small group of terrorists infiltrated the Damascus-Aleppo highway area in the vicinity of the city of Serakib to take photos in order to create informational hype,” the report said.

[Vol4ara]

Quote: Sergey39

"Tigers" will soon come from South Idlib.

Well, how are the Tigers after today's events?

[nznz]

and vi? Do you know anything from Jewish sources?

[Lord of the Sith]

More than 20 villages freed in the morning.

[Astra wild]

If I was not mistaken, then terrorists are marked in green? However, they still have a lot of territory under control, but they also lost

[Lord of the Sith]

Here is the full map, I think it will be clearer here from February 26 to February 27

[Sergey39]

I’m wondering how many minuses they put - is there so many supporting Erdogan on the site?

[flicker]

I’m wondering how many minuses they put - is there so many supporting Erdogan on the site?

These are not so much those who support Erdogan as those who want us to be defeated. Well, there are all sorts of Bendera, "Israeli patriots", in short, Russophobes of all stripes.

[Dreama]

Bendera ?! The city of Bender is located in Transnistria, and its residents are unlikely to wish us defeat from Turkish Basurmans. But Bandera - these are the followers of the ghoul of Stepan Bandera; these yes, these can.

[flicker]

Bendera ?!

"E" specially highlighted,
Film "Brother-2"

[Vladimir_6]

Quote: Sergey39

I’m wondering how many minuses they put - is there so many supporting Erdogan on the site?

These are those who at least support a devil. If only against Russia.

[Leeds]

Not enough there are our attack helicopters and artillery. The goals are heaps, but the risk is great. Aldin denied the T-90. This captured earlier works on spirits ...

[Grits]

Quote: Leeds

Not enough of our attack helicopters there

Although there are enough of our helicopters. And I think that if they took part in supporting SAA, then the spirits would not have advanced so seriously. And most likely they would roll back. But. ours are silent. Another tricky plan ....

[Aaron Zawi]

There is a serious kneading.

[Romario_Argo]

There is a serious kneading.

the main thing is that the militants were ALMOST knocked out of the mountains in southern Idlib
and Sarakib in the valley, expanse for VKS, Arta type Msta-B and MLRS Smerch, thermobaric Sunshine

[Altai72]

What is there with Neurob? Is he from Assad or what? You promised to return it by yesterday evening!

[Romario_Argo]

it is necessary from GENES to request such info
and I already gave enough comments on this topic, go to the profile, then in the comments
and +/- as you wish (!)

[Vol4ara]

Quote: Romario_Argo

There is a serious kneading.

the main thing is that the militants were ALMOST knocked out of the mountains in southern Idlib
and Sarakib in the valley, expanse for VKS, Arta type Msta-B and MLRS Smerch, thermobaric Sunshine

The mountains in the south did not have such strategic importance as the m4m5 interchange, this is a huge loss

[Romario_Argo]

Mountains in the south did not have such strategic importance

apparently GENE know better
and he wanted more than 10 Brigades to free, so that there was time to prepare them
In order to then apparently squeeze something else (after Idlib)
Afrin, El-Bab, oil fields at the penguins at Deir ez-Zor, Al-Tanf on the border with Iraq and Jordan.
* GENA generally thinks wider than you and I (!)

[Grits]

Quote: Romario_Argo

the main thing is that the militants were ALMOST knocked out of the mountains in southern Idlib

This is not the main thing. But what the roads have lost and the ability to quickly maneuver is the main thing

[Romario_Argo]

This is not the main thing.

GENE knows better with Frunze embankment
and he wanted more than 10 Brigades to free

[Grits]

Quote: Aron Zaavi

There is a serious kneading.

This is not the Turks directly pulled ...

[turcom]

Yeah, there’s nowhere more cunning than to outwit yourself

[Vladimir_6]

There is a serious kneading.

Aron, good day. Do not share information about the opinions of Israeli citizens on this situation in Idlib on Israeli forums. Which side has more votes?

[Misha Honest]

Quote: MoJloT

This may be a temporary occurrence in the region of Seraciba.

Our aviation is not working. Apparently afraid to scratch the Turks ...

[K-612-O]

Just ours and Sadykovskaya are processing the outskirts of Serakib, the city itself is in the hands of the Sadyks. The most important thing is that all this is a heroic offensive of the homeless people, more and more creeps into the boiler.

[Maz]

Battles for Sarakib || Day results

[serzh.kost]

yeah, the turkish sultan's eggs were stronger than ours ...

[MoJloT]

Sultan's eggs were stronger than ours ...

Why?

[AVA77]

Why? Yes, why not! The main thing is to memorize that everything is gone, hide the bastards. He is a troll on a VO troll.

[serzh.kost]

Well, because the whole operation to free Idlib is under great threat. reputation losses for the country and Russian weapons.
the same ruin can now launch an offensive in the Donbass (and I sometimes hate our leadership for the betrayal of Donbass), maybe a ride.

[AVA77]

If the Syrians temporarily leaked something, this does not mean that Russia is to blame!
Or do you propose Russia spread Turkey, so as not to incur reputation losses,
then the flag is in your hands.
If the ruin can launch an offensive in the Donbass, let it advance, chew its snot.

[serzh.kost]

unfortunately, just standing aside and pretending that we are not concerned will not work. Russia is in Syria for a long time, right? and in order to maintain this outpost for a long time, the first point and the most important is the territorial integrity of Syria.
I’m not saying that everything was lost due to the fall of Serakib, our sofa will not stand it, but the bill is in Erdogan’s favor. And he still hasn’t seriously entered into the struggle.
well, you do a deal, so do it so that you yourself do not stay in the red. even if all these conspiracy theories are correct and Putin helps to keep Erdogan's face (it seems like rubbish), then Erdogan’s problems do not concern us.
why the heck to substitute the Syrians? Does anyone ask their opinion? not the Syrians who hang out in the clubs of Damascus, but those untrained youths who now die in batches at the front.
it turns out that the Syrian state without Russia is still completely untenable.

[perm23]

But in general, there’s a war going on. and in war, only one victory is impossible .. secondly. everything is not so clear there either. Or you have information right from there. And honest. So do not prematurely share the skin of an unkilled bear.

[Nastia makarova]

Russia does not bear any defeat from the Assad troops !!!

[MoJloT]

Russia does not bear any defeat from the Assad troops !!!

It bears, in addition to reputation, financial, influence and authority on the BV, God forbid the loss of Khmeimim (in the future).

[Nastia makarova]

there is a small loss of 10ki per month and you are talking about global defeat when we lose our bases, Russia does not bear any losses because of the village, do not write nonsense !!!

[MoJloT]

Here the question is an edge, and reputation losses will be 100%, the question is who !? And then, if it turns out that this is possible for the Turks, then it is possible for everyone else.

[Nastia makarova]

because of the little things no one will notice !!! all the more great victories in the south of the province, this is a war, without retreats do not happen

[Ovrag]

Nobody carries anything there. Everyone understands everything. Russia has reached its goals in Syria. There is no pipeline from Qatar and will not be sooooooo long. Assad did not bend the same helped. And the fact that Assad decided to enter Idlib on a white horse is his personal problems.
Turkey is a far more important ally for Russia than Assad. Since they have already extended their pipeline to Turkey. And the Black Sea is in fact controlled by Turkey. For the same reasons, Comrade Pu has completely ignored what is happening there for several days and is busy extending his rule. I think that Assad was told something like the following: "You can do it, well done, no, your problems." That's all.

[Nastia makarova]

Yes, everything is simple there. Assad has only a few combat-ready units. the rest are just serving a room

[Ovrag]

Well, maybe they will merge them completely. Still to somehow reduce the Iranians. And then Turkey and Russia will be able to calmly bring order there. There is no Qatari gas. Russian gas - yes.

[Nastia makarova]

Turkey is just merging its militants, a little there are already left

[Ovrag]

I agree. This is quite a joint process. Neither Russia nor Turkey needs dangerous and uncontrollable forces in the future division of the spheres in Syria. There already is always Iran. Which at any moment the same can throw a feint ears.

[Nastia makarova]

Iran has other tasks in Syria, for it is Israel’s enemy and not Assad and Turkey

[Ovrag]

The problem is yes. For Iran, the enemy is Israel. But for Russia and Turkey, Israel is, if not an ally. That is a quite moderate friend and neighbor. Until recently, the Turks even led joint military weapons programs with Israel. And I think neither we nor the Turks are interested in falling under the hot hand of the Israeli-Iranian showdown. There are enough problems without this.

[Nastia makarova]

that's why they look through their fingers at Israel’s rocket attacks on Iran

[Romka47]

Do you even understand that this is a Jew, and he drowns exclusively in his own way?

[primala]

Quote: Ovrag

For Iran, the enemy is Israel. But for Russia and Turkey, Israel is, if not an ally. That is a quite moderate friend and neighbor. Until recently, the Turks even led joint military weapons programs with Israel. And I think neither we nor the Turks are interested in falling under the hot hand of the Israeli-Iranian showdown. There are enough problems without this.

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Israel is everyone's enemy. Seriously enough. No unnecessary irony. Until then, while in the minds of the "Israelis" there is a glimmer of hope - to keep the whole world / countries under control, until then Israel will be kept at gunpoint. (the saucer is easy to turn into clay)

[Ovrag]

Well, he is an enemy only if the Nazis and the Nazis what. Yes to all Muslim fanatics.
Normal countries, including Russia, have no problems with Israel. Quite the contrary. Despite certain difficulties due to the same Syrian conflict, the countries maintain friendly relations. Well, Pu himself (like his entourage) very much loves Israel. Which has repeatedly demonstrated. Therefore, while Pu is in power. Israel will definitely be a friend.

[primala]

Quote: Ovrag

Well, he is an enemy only if the Nazis and the Nazis what. Yes to all Muslim fanatics.
Normal countries, including Russia, have no problems with Israel. Quite the contrary. Despite certain difficulties due to the same Syrian conflict, the countries maintain friendly relations. Well, Pu himself (like his entourage) very much loves Israel. Which has repeatedly demonstrated. Therefore, while Pu is in power. Israel will definitely be a friend.

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If Russia has no complaints against Israel, then I am a Spanish pilot.

[Ovrag]

And what claims does Russia have against Israel? Sound it?
Just recently, Pu and Netanyahu again kissed on the lips. And you are about some complaints. Even an Israeli woman was taken for drug smuggling and then released.

[primala]

Quote: Ovrag

And what claims does Russia have against Israel? Sound it?
Just recently, Pu and Netanyahu again kissed on the lips. And you are about some complaints. Even an Israeli woman was taken for drug smuggling and then released.

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"THIS" is also annoying. There is still "below" the progression of our Vova. Then there will be a complete "holiday" for "friends". I hope it doesn't come to that.

[Ovrag]

This is not an answer to the question. What claims are you talking about? Can you voice it?

[primala]

Quote: Ovrag

This is not an answer to the question. What claims are you talking about? Can you voice it?

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I can!!! The Israelis' butt will soon crack, sitting on two chairs.
WE have not forgotten the "tactics" of reporting a downed plane. Repeat more precisely ???

[Ovrag]

AND? Downed plane approx. It was a rather complicated and controversial situation. But as I understand it, they eventually paid for it. And the Russian leadership quite rightly believes that the issue is closed. I have no reason to think otherwise, if even in Moscow they decided that this topic was closed.
Is there anything else? Any specifics? Or did Adolf Hitler just suddenly wake up in you and that’s it?

[primala]

Quote: Ovrag

AND? Downed plane approx. It was a rather complicated and controversial situation. But as I understand it, they eventually paid for it. And the Russian leadership quite rightly believes that the issue is closed. I have no reason to think otherwise, if even in Moscow they decided that this topic was closed.
Is there anything else? Any specifics? Or did Adolf Hitler just suddenly wake up in you and that’s it?

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"Moscow" may have "closed" (pretending) ... WE DIDN'T FORGET. For everyone they will answer, WHO dared ... (take the quotes into account).

[Ovrag]

Who are you?
I'm really curious. Because most of Russia will not even remember about it. And in the difficult foreign policy situation in Syria, everything has happened and is happening. But petty and annoying misunderstandings should not be an obstacle to achieving Russia's foreign policy goals. The task of Russia will gain a foothold in the region with the support of all regional forces. A lot of money and effort has been invested in cooperation with Turkey and Israel. As a result. None of them disputes the fact that Russia is now the dominant force in the region. It is with Russia that Turkey is now negotiating the future of Syria.
And people like you, with their slogans, undermine all that trust and all the results that were achieved later, with blood and yes. mistakes. Unfortunately, no way without them.

[primala]

You shouldn't think they don't remember. The more "events" there are, the more hatred the thinking population of Russia has. The (true) story is known to the majority. But there are few who do not think in the country of Russia.

[Ovrag]

So what events is that? Except for a downed plane? For which so it is necessary to say thanks to the Iranians. Which apparently not in vain far escorted from Syria. Too uncontrollable comrades. And their strangers and strangers.

[primala]

Quote: Ovrag

So what events is that? Except for a downed plane? For which so it is necessary to say thanks to the Iranians. Which apparently not in vain far escorted from Syria. Too uncontrollable comrades. And their strangers and strangers.

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Paushami You better roll immature minds. And then ... not within Russia, although .... and we have enough ..... Can i ask you? Jews NOT Arabs? Think before you answer.

[Ovrag]

In short. As always. Specifics for what - no. But apparently Adolf Aloizovich would be glad that the seeds of his fascism continue to germinate.

[core]

that is why you are far from "PU", because your thoughts are primitive, "friend" "enemy". and Putin is busy with politics. power in the country is now the tenth thing for him, he is not concerned about it. you and others like you are preoccupied with this. with fear they understand that if He decides (for the sake of) fun to arrange another term for himself, then people will easily support him, and the Leberdos and Krivokommunis will again be merged without mathematical compensation. compared to Putin, they are all shkolota.

[Grits]

Quote: Ovrag

There already is always Iran. Which at any moment the same can throw a feint ears.

It’s only in Idlib that neither Iran, nor Hezbollah is visible ... They were politicized. heard the sweet speeches of the Turks, Jews and Americans. And the Persians would really help.

[Ovrag]

In fact, it is not clear what happened. But Iran has a very difficult internal situation now. Yes, and the virus. No kidding. It's been restless there all year. Well, the Minister of Health got sick on the air ... In short, the devil knows him. But they are preoccupied with internal problems.

[K-612-O]

You would at least look at a map of the database, and read the news before scribbling. There will be no meeting on March 5, Lavrov clearly said that they did not agree with the terrorists, and therefore the offensive and boilers. Despite the fact that they do not knock down sadykov, but they are leaving, plus aviation is working on the homeless people. Disposal however of this bomber

[Astra wild]

Who told you that Khmeinin will lose? Better moral losses than our boys will die.

[Op po]

They not only betrayed Donbass. These are traitors in the cube. They also betrayed Iran, the NATO vipers in Russia itself ... They merged the national security interests of Russia with Turkey, putting the Triumphs there along with technological information. And they will be indirectly guilty of when the Turks begin to shoot down Russian planes from the same Triumphs

[K-612-O]

You to Platoshkin, Udaltsov and Rashkin. Well, or to Yezhov. Their handwriting is visible. Operational-tactical and operational training and the beginnings of analytics from you does not smell.

[16329]

And who even betrayed the Donbass, did Donetsk have already been captured by the Ukrainian army, did I miss something? Or maybe the Ukrainian regional administration is now located in Lugansk, please enlighten me, how did the Donbass betray and who?

[Paranoid50]

Quote: serzh.kost

maybe a ride.

Not a ride - they will soon demolish it from here. So funny: in just ten days, throwing so many heresies here ...

[serzh.kost]

Quote: Paranoid50

Not a ride - they will soon demolish it from here.

York Yes, if it is sovereign.
Seffolk. Everything is in our power, - he will give consent. And, what we decide, will affirm. Well, glorious York, tackle this thing.
York I am satisfied. Bring me the soldier. Meanwhile, I will arrange my affairs.

[zloba71]

In the Donbass, our political leadership has done everything right. Now Donbass is a buffer zone between Russia and Ukraine. If Donbass became Russian, then nothing would have prevented the Amers from giving the Ukrainians a command to start a war with Russia. There is a reason - we will return Crimea! After that, we would be very pleased to observe how the Slavs chop each other, not forgetting to throw weapons and mercenaries to the Ukrainians. And there would be a batch of a much larger scale than the one that is now in the Donbass. And the unrecognized and non-aligned Donbass tied the hands of the Ukrainians and their puppeteers, because while you have a civil war in your country, you won’t go to war as a neighbor.
And Donbass will remain part of Ukraine, as strategically, he is not very interesting to us, unlike the Crimea. And sooner or later, a pro-Russian leader will come to power in Ukraine anyway. Let not immediately. There will be a Maidan, then a second, a third, and it doesn’t matter how many there will be, but sooner or later the people will throw off the power they hate (I do not consider a bunch of frostbitten radicals). And when Ukraine becomes our friend, it will be difficult for it, as an agrarian country, to reach out without the industrial Donbass. And why should we sponsor it later, in order to keep afloat, it is better not to rob her of an important industrial region.

[K-612-O]

Well, the question is how long Ukraine will last. Moreover, if the Poles seriously declare that if they will maintain order and law in the eastern Cresses.

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: zloba71

And when Ukraine becomes our friend ...

It is clear that everything that happens in Ukraine, after 5 years of "peremogi" over the Panda, does not suit tens of millions of Ukrainians, but a couple of millions are still yes. Nevertheless, the tension within Ukrainian society is growing and one day it may splash out in the direction of the authorities and the Ukrainian Natsiks. In principle, their curators from the United States also guess about this, and therefore they will begin to accelerate the process of turning this territory into an unusable state, so that even if it loses its influence on Ukraine in the future, it will preserve fragments hostile to Russia. The bottom line is the collapse of Ukraine.

Quote: zloba71

then to her as an agrarian country ...

The fact is that today and now, by the hands of the Ukrainian authorities, it is systematically deprived of the status of an agrarian country, for which, through pressure from the IMF, they deliberately carry out work leading this state misunderstanding to the sale of agricultural land.

Quote: zloba71

how an agrarian country will be difficult to reach without an industrial Donbass. And why should we sponsor it later, in order to keep afloat, it is better not to rob her of an important industrial region.

I do not think that in supporting foreign agricultural holdings and corporations that bought up Ukrainian lands, LDNR or Russia will be of interest. It will not be so - that our people, and foreign lands. Probably, only those lands that are in LDNR, including their territories under Ukrainian occupation, will not be sold, since this is a risky asset.

[primala]

Quote: serzh.kost

the same ruin can now launch an offensive in the Donbass (and I sometimes hate our leadership for the betrayal of Donbass), maybe a ride.

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We could have dealt with Donbass as quickly as with Crimea. And today all of Ukraine is crammed with mercenaries. As they say ... "... you have to kiss on time." (evil is not enough).

[16329]

They couldn’t decide promptly, there was no reason, the situation was slowly swinging and territorially Donbass was not a separate peninsula with the Russian military base, and several hundred commandos would not get off there, we would have to organize a major invasion and then everything would be the other way around, we would have been Local blocked roads, collisions with victims would take place, etc.
Only we would start. At the same time, a movement began in support of the Victim of aggression, which suffered for its European choice, and this against the background of sanctions would bring big problems
And so, Ukraine, by shelling and casualties, itself formed a negative image in our public time, and inside Holland, past optimism is no longer felt, etc.
Honestly, now the time is gradually coming when the Ukrainian issue can be resolved, most likely it will be so soon

[Altai72]

That's why in vain here people call each other names and ulcers. We are not doing politics with you, and we don’t have an army. We are just observers.

[cniza]

Yeah, and sofa commentators ...

[Tiksi-3]

Quote: serzh.kost

yeah, the turkish sultan's eggs were stronger than ours ...

did you manage to hold them in your palm?

[atalef]

Quote: serzh.kost

yeah, the turkish sultan's eggs were stronger than ours ...

Sworn friends

[Nastia makarova]

even if nothing happens with Assad with an idlib, then there’s nothing wrong with that, it’s better to prepare and try again

[Vol4ara]

Quote: serzh.kost

yeah, the turkish sultan's eggs were stronger than ours ...

How many minuses have instructed you, but it may turn out that you are right. Will block the Bosporus and good bye base in Syria

[serzh.kost]

minuses, pluses, for God's sake, vanity of vanities ... was emotionally unrestrained. and purebred with VO just to let off steam for the unrealizability of their Wishlist and to amuse their bloated part.
and about the straits, I think it’s unlikely to close it, as long as only the tweeter has managed to close it)) and how can he close it, with a chain and board it? then the war ... Erdogan Pasha doesn’t need it either, it’s not from a good life that he’s fucking in NATO but he is fighting with social networks.
ours also do not escalate. they’re justifying themselves right away, it’s not us, we didn’t want to, we didn’t know that there were Turks, we don’t beat you ... how the aggravation of the padishah will go away, we’ll agree. for the time being again ...

[Olgovich]

Not good...

And somewhat unexpectedly, against the backdrop of recent bravura reports ...

And there, yes, work and work ..

[Nychego]

First things first, you don’t have to rush to the victorious rhetoric - the enemy is not a sucker and has his own plans, and in this case also the overt support of a very strong country, dreaming of becoming a power on occasion.
With such introductory scenarios, it’s darkness, and some, after reconnaissance in battle, in the process of specifying forces and means and linking reserves, yell that we have already killed them all, now we are only trampling. At all subsequent stages of the battle, such screamers run the risk of appearing slightly overwhelmed.

[Ural resident]

Quote: Nychego

First things first, you don’t have to rush to the victorious rhetoric - the enemy is not a sucker and has his own plans, and in this case also the overt support of a very strong country, dreaming of becoming a power on occasion.
With such introductory scenarios, it’s darkness, and some, after reconnaissance in battle, in the process of specifying forces and means and linking reserves, yell that we have already killed them all, now we are only trampling. At all subsequent stages of the battle, such screamers run the risk of appearing slightly overwhelmed.

how would you put 2 pluses ... sorry you can not

[Nychego]

Quote: Resident of the Urals

how would you put 2 pluses ... sorry you can not

Countryman, I'm generally not worried about the pros. Not for the sake of the stars on the shoulder straps we live.

[gohomeyanki]

yes, but you write too vague and evading phrases, like Turks, the words are true,
Are you talking about the victorious rhetoric of the opposition and the Turks? .... here the situation according to the news is incomprehensible the militants wrote in the morning that they took Serakib, while Sana denied that they took. Pull the situation there.

it’s just that people rely on facts, the opposition lost the M5 highway, the loss of the M4 highway flickers, with the support of the Turks, perhaps, probably the opposition regained a piece of the M5 highway. Nooooh, after they lose the M4, the opposition’s situation will be even more unenviable.

artillery, and special forces of the Turks (at the same time having no air control) ... all the same, they won’t help straighten the front, the question is whether the Turks will KEEP losing their people and equipment for Idlib. Until the end of the month we will see that Erdogan marked such a red line.

[Professor Preobrazhensky]

SAA enters Idlib and exits ...
It comes in with the support of the videoconferencing system and comes out ...
Comes in and out ...
It was 1348 day of an incomprehensible war between Turkey and Russia in a single Syrian province, with the participation of Iran, Israel and the United States and with peaceful mediation in the settlement of this issue by Germany and France ...

[Nastia makarova]

Assad has few fighting forces

[Leshy1975]

Quote: Nastia Makarova

Assad has few fighting forces

Then what the hell did they start the operation in Idlib ?! If there are few combat-ready! What would be the collision with Turkey and the last to lose ?! Nastya, are you friends with logic? Or just write? You began to seem to me a troll. Write a lot, the same thing and often contradict not only logic, but also your own statements. Depending on the development of the situation.

[Nastia makarova]

there are still no options to endure them, I had to take a chance, especially as Assad continues to advance, and many more militants have been killed, they are also not endless

[Leshy1975]

Quote: Nastia Makarova

there are still no options to endure them, I had to take a chance, especially as Assad continues to advance, and many more militants have been killed, they are also not endless

I will now explain to you exactly what and why they did not tolerate it.
1) Sochi agreements on Idlib were conducted between the Russian Federation and Turkey. Those. decide the fate of Syrian territory without the participation of Syria itself. And no one then cared.
2) Erdogan climbed into Libya and broke the Kremlin’s plans. And Haftar, counting on the Kremlin’s support, when he realized that there would not be such support in the confrontation with Turkey, he was even offended and began to make unfriendly statements.
3) In retaliation for Libya, Erdogan decided to make a "goat's face" in Idlib. So they gave the command - Forward.
What were you counting on? It is likely that Erdogan will be frightened and will not get involved in two conflicts at once. But Erdogan, even when the Turks shot down our plane, showed that what was what, and he didn’t take decisiveness. And it doesn’t matter what underlies such decisiveness, even self-confidence, even stupidity, at least something else.
4) I understand what Erdogan will do next. He now has a ton of options, both purely military and for bargaining. And I don’t understand how the Kremlin will now get out. Because if Erdogan will grind the best parts of Assad, the same 25th division and go beyond Idlib. That’s all, put out the light, then the militants (in reality the same Syrians, only the opponents of Assad) will finish everything themselves. And the Russian Federation will lose all its long-term costs in Syria. We have everything rests on the personality of Assad. It will be a complete fiasco.
5) Here some commentators wrote to me that a meeting between Putin and Erdogan is not planned yet. Moreover, this is the position of the Kremlin. And this is very logical and logical. If he accepted Erdogan's "surrender" on Idlib, then undoubtedly Putin would have found the time. It has long been known that Putin is where victory is. But it is certainly not very convenient for Putin to go to Turkey and sign the "surrender" himself. Therefore, it turns out to be terribly busy. And the question is essentially trivial - just about a possible clash between the military personnel of the Russian Federation and Turkey. Practically, about a possible war if something goes wrong. But there are things that are more important for the commander-in-chief.

PS I wrote a long time ago that the events in Libya and Syria are interconnected. But as then many refused to understand this relationship, and now for sure many will not find anything in common here. But they will not find the relationship just because they are terribly busy. They had no leisure during the battle, when Turkey was about to be defeated (in plans and fantasies) by distracting extraneous issues.

[Nastia makarova]

you everywhere in all posts thought that Putin miscalculated and weakling and Erdogan well done

[Astra wild]

He is probably his fan?

[K-612-O]

Yes, you look at the database map, in general, and not at Seracib alone.

[Leshy1975]

Quote: K-612-O

Yes, you look at the database map, in general, and not at Seracib alone.

The point now is not even in the map. The point is this (source newsland.com from 27.02.20):
Ankara’s determination on the situation in Idlib is absolute, unshakable and uncompromising, said Omer Celik, spokesman for the ruling Justice and Development Party of Turkey.
According to him, the command of the Turkish army completed preparations for the operation in the Idlib de-escalation zone. After the expiration of the period allotted to the regime of Bashar al-Assad for the withdrawal of troops outside the zone limited by the Sochi agreements, the Turkish Armed Forces will fulfill the mission assigned to them, Celik said.
The politician emphasized that Turkey does not accept any reservations of supporters of Bashar al-Assad on Idlib.

Those. the Turks, in essence, have not yet begun the operation. They are waiting for the expiration of the deadline and the possible outcome of the negotiations between Putin and Erdogan. But troops and equipment have already been caught up in Idlib. And when (if) they put it all into action, the map will change quickly.

[gohomeyanki]

Yeah, but the Turkish leader, the master of his word, took the word, took the word.
The Russian Foreign Ministry also replied that there would be no negotiations with terrorists (the UN recognizes some of the groups there as terrorist).
And in general, if Turkey goes to this operation, it will be military aggression, whatever one may say.
BUT the world does not care about it. The Question of Strength is playing now.

The air issue (I’m talking not only about me, Erdogan is also the Turkish military), control over Russia, and Syria, which has air defense and airplanes there. Aggression against Syria ok, possible,
against Russia .... well, many want this, but while the gut is thin, Georgia attacked the Russian peacekeepers base, Georgia ended up losing part of the territory. In general, it is dangerous to health. I have not received support from NATO yet, i.e. Erdogan has no advantage in the air.

in general, tomorrow it will be clear whether Erdogan will go on an adventure or not, he indicated the term until the end of the month "CAA should get out of Idlib"

[gohomeyanki]

And yet, in general, they have nothing to shoot down planes from the ground .... Russians fly high, aviation, you need to fly to planes to bring down, and fall under the Russian c300, c400. They have nothing to attack the base with, there are no missiles such as Russia has, and there is a blow to the base, direct military aggression against Russia.

something like that, delivered by Russia with the Turkey s400, most likely they still don’t work (personnel still need to be trained), and the question is ... will they shoot at Russian planes.

[Astra wild]

Erdogan is not a complete scumbag to start a war with the Russian Federation and the Americans will not fit in. They like to carry chestnuts out of the fire, and carry them themselves. Joke please

[gohomeyanki]

he is ready to shoot down Russian planes (In 2015, they shot down a plane, and were ready yet), and no tomatoes stopped him, and no Turkish streams, and no tourists i.e. the economy and how people live does not bother him.
ITS STOPPED THAT in 2016 there was an attempted coup.

His problem is that .... Russia will not be so easy to crush in the air.
Well, and not a scumbag, but a DREAMER he has Children's dreams: about the Great Ataman "port".
and he believes that he is restoring the earth.

and claims to Russia are BIG.
At first, they did not give the country a chance to tear the country into the Chechen war, after they banned the Muslim Brotherhood and Turkish preachers expelled .... well, the Turks somehow survived.
Further:
In 2014, Crimea chopped off, although his preachers worked in the Crimea, but failed)
2015 Syria, there was still Allepo, which the Turks really wanted, they were removed to Idlib now they are shaking there. Kurds ... the Syrian army essentially came out and covered the Kurds, preventing them from capturing a lot of Kurdish lands (of course, they would like to be promoted here too, and the Syrian army does not advance where they are).
In Libya, we support Hufftar, and they are on the other side.

[gohomeyanki]

and before that, there were a lot of wars with Russia, as a result of which, the Ports did not actually become, and the lands that they considered their own, too.

so they are charged for war, and their leader, too, and here (even taking into account the weakened army, Erdogan chopped it into cabbage in 2016), they are dangerous.

[gohomeyanki]

The United States will urge them on like let's go ahead Erdogan you and I .... "and we are more friends than these Russians", and don't buy them with 400, we'll put ours for you, in years ... dtsat)

[Ovrag]

I think both Turkey and Russia are globally interested in having them completely kill each other there. Then it will be possible to calmly divide the spheres of influence in Syria, without particularly looking at the locals. Well, at the same time spend the pro-Iranian forces there too. Since it is Iran that claims to be Russia's place in Syria.

[Tzar]

Why should Russia share the territory of its ally with someone? Let the Turks tear apart some US ally, we’ll divide it there, you can even give up most of it to them.

[Ovrag]

Which ally? Russia has three of them there - Syria, Turkey and Iran.
You specify.

[otstoy]

I respect the Sultan. He keeps his word.

[cniza]

"Chickens are counted in autumn", time will tell ...

[g1washntwn]

He did not fulfill his promises to de-escalate and disarm the gangs because of the word "in general." Does everything exactly the opposite. But it is your choice to respect the one who kicks someone who is practically lying, and even in his house.

[Kerensky]

Is it too late to search for traitors in CAA headquarters?

[cniza]

Quote: Kerensky

Is it too late to search for traitors in CAA headquarters?

I think it's never too late, but simply necessary ...

[Yrec]

I hope Serakib is a tactical "pocket" for the most combat-ready militants, who are then disposed of in it with the help of our VKS and aviation / art of the SAA. In Serakib, there is practically no peacekeeper left, and the footage of the Msta-B delivery speaks of this.

[Altai72]

Not tired of repeating the same thing? Aviation has no effect there, only a peaceful people suffer from it.

[St Petrov]

only a peaceful man suffers from it.

it’s necessary to record a track about schools and a peacekeeper with this broadsman and disguise the machine as a microphone

PS carefully - in the video there’s one peaceful

[ultra]

Quote: Altai72

only a peaceful man suffers from it.

Let the Turks get out of Syria and the peaceful people cease to suffer.

[otstoy]

The day before yesterday the same "patriots" wrote about Neirab. And now Neirab is already over the horizon.

[cniza]

Quote: Yrec

I hope Serakib is a tactical "pocket" for the most combat-ready militants, who are then disposed of in it with the help of our VKS and aviation / art of the SAA. In Serakib, there is practically no peacekeeper left, and the footage of the Msta-B delivery speaks of this.

In the village? unless there are civilians and important facilities ...

[Romario_Argo]

27.02.2020/15/20 at 24:XNUMX by Russia XNUMX the official statement of the SAA: Serakib under their full control
* 76th Brigade holds Sarakib

[cniza]

It's hard for us to judge, there is an information war, later everything will become clear.

[Grits]

Quote: Romario_Argo

27.02.2020/15/20 at 24:XNUMX by Russia XNUMX the official statement of the SAA: Serakib under their full control
* 76th Brigade holds Sarakib

Is there Poroshenko accidentally working as an adviser on information policy and propaganda? He has the experience of Debaltseve (all is well, beautiful marquise).

[Romario_Argo]

Seraqib is a tactical "pocket" for the most efficient fighters

I completely agree.
The Turks are well replaying (in touch with Shoigu), the victims are real, the turntables shot down, which even I ALMOST believed (!)

[Red]

War is a series of victories and defeats. They took the southern ledge but lost Serakib. I think the women will develop the offensive in the area of ​​Serakib a little more and stop. Then the swing will swing in the opposite direction and Assad’s troops will be beaten back, only the southern ledge will be gone.

[Grits]

Quote: Red

only the southern ledge will be gone.

And what prevents the barmaley from carrying out the same operation in the south as in Neurab and Serakib?

[cniza]

SAA defense breached under Serakib: militants advance in three directions

We will find out the real state of affairs by March 4 ...

[Gardamir]

Why? Then by April 22nd.

[Gardamir]

All this is sad. Three times won. All singers and dancers were awarded. What about the results?

[Alexey Sommer]

Quote: s-t Petrov

Your nose would become porridge and the next time your head would turn on before you press the buttons.

When you drink you need a snack.
Such pearls, so to speak on the forum, are excusable only with a hangover.

[Nastia makarova]

so almost all the territory of Assad)))) and the idlib remained small, why not a big defeat and immediately scream that everything was gone?

[St Petrov]

Why not a big defeat and immediately scream that everything was gone?

this character does not have a different way. Pokhlesh Ahidzhakova

[Nastia makarova]

you need to delete these trolls immediately

[St Petrov]

almost a marshal, are you really ..

[Nastia makarova]

this is strange, usually just registered

[bk316]

almost a marshal, are you really ..

Ayayayay. Almost an army general. Signs of distinction are supposed to know even ordinary.

[Astra wild]

I totally agree

[Gardamir]

It would be nice, but somehow I’m used to it from history, where the Russians win there. In the meantime, it looks like a trading partnership.

[Nastia makarova]

we don’t fight there, we help mainly with weapons

[St Petrov]

Likewise him now, of course, will whistle, like, nothing, bargain, agree

or the one in which the belongings are added before moving ...

20 years of patience and pain are concentrated in this comment.

[St Petrov]

put up with such things will not be there or here.

20 years. This is 4 times for 5 years. This is the fifth part of the century. I think the skill is honed by the opposition with VO. You are the best in this business.

You also need to write a hashtag # soon and #For_Gaaga and then Putin will have a panic and in the Kremlin they will close the luggage covers

[Paranoid50]

Quote: Russian_man

we have no further choice ...

Right It's time for you to blame.

[Ovrag]

Already all agreed. Short. Qatar gas is not. Russian gas (via Turkey, of course) - yes.
Everything else is already lyrics.
Because of the dentist and his ambitions, no one is going to again become the ruler of all Syria to lose strategic allies, with whom, unlike Assad, joint multi-billion-dollar projects have been developed for a long time that are planned for decades to come.

[Yrec]

Quote: Altai72

Not tired of repeating the same thing? Aviation has no effect there, only a peaceful people suffer from it.

Can refuse aviation completely? And give the Turks air control over Idlib? Maybe they’d better use aviation? Mirnyak suffers ALWAYS in a war if he fails to escape from the database zone on time. It doesn’t matter from aviation or from artillery.

[Olya Tsako]

“In order to defeat the enemy, let him believe that you are weak, and then strike at the heart.” CLAUSERS
The first course of any military school.

[Arg107]

Quote: Olya Tsako

CLAUSERS

It's time to launch a new brand of upholstered furniture. Clausewitz sofas, Sun-Tzu armchairs .. And these are just the names, but imagine what a frenzy of fantasy can be arranged by design, color scheme. Do not thank for the idea.

[Grandfather Crimea]

And climbing on such a sofa to drink up tea # tea (drink from the same edges))))))))))

[Doliva63]

Quote: Olya Tsako

“In order to defeat the enemy, let him believe that you are weak, and then strike at the heart.” CLAUSERS
The first course of any military school.

And you, I wonder which one you finished?

[Balthazar]

We have to wait a bit with conclusions. The situation is very foggy.

[Livonetc]

Ordinary military situation.

[Nastia makarova]

the first time that Assad soldiers flee? anyway then they go on the offensive

[Grits]

Quote: Nastia Makarova

anyway then they go on the offensive

Where the Turks dig in specifically, they will not go. An example is Dayr-Ez-Zor after the Euphrates. There the Americans drew a line - and that’s all - they forgot about all kinds of offensives. And here it could be the same.

[Nastia makarova]

Why are you protecting the Turks ??? in all messages write that Assad is necessary and rejoice in defeat?

[Grits]

Quote: Nastia Makarova

Why are you protecting the Turks ??? in all messages write that Assad is necessary and rejoice in defeat?

Do not talk nonsense. I rejoice in Assad’s victories; I don’t protect the Turks at all. You just need to look at things soberly and pragmatically and really assess the situation. And she, unfortunately, does not always turn in our favor.

[Nastia makarova]

it should not always be in our favor, there are victories and there are defeats, especially war

[Grits]

Quote: Nastia Makarova

it should not always be in our favor, there are victories and there are defeats, especially war

here you are right.

[Nastia makarova]

here and see in a month what happened with the onset of idlib

[Astra wild]

Nastya is right: there is no defeat in a war

[Paul Siebert]

We do not know all the nuances of the current situation. Perhaps this is a tactical ploy to surround the erupted militant group ...
Successes in the south of Idlib prove that the operation to free this governorate continues. Several settlements are occupied there.
Erdogan will not give the go-ahead to his askers until March 5. Then he must meet with Putin.
There is nothing to worry about. Offensive to the broads is expensive.

[donavi49]

There will be no meeting with Putin on March 5. Peskov said today.

Peskov denied reports of a meeting between Putin and Erdogan on March 5
“On March 5, President Putin has other work plans,” Peskov told reporters.

Today, the Turks repeated that the last days are leaving, the army is ready.
Spokesman for the ruling Justice and Development Party of Turkey Omer Celik: Turkish army command completes preparations for operation in Idlib de-escalation zone.

[Ovrag]

Well, then everything has already been decided. On that and approx.

[Dog]

Quote: donavi49

Omer Celik: The command of the Turkish army has completed preparations for the operation in the Idlib de-escalation zone.

Hookahs and backgammon were lowered into the bunkers of the command, a stock of films was created on the staff laptops so that the Turkish command was not bored, hiding from the blows of the entire (well, except nuclear weapons) nomenclature of modern weapons on the military infrastructure of their country? I would tell in more detail about the nature of readiness for the response of Russia.

[Vladimir Mashkov]

Yes, it's unpleasant. But there is no need to shout "Everything is lost!" Remember Palmyra: there was also a swing. But who has Palmyra now? And to all OUR - good luck !!!

[Andrey.AN]

There is no other place for tactics on this site, Idlib interferes.

[Lord of the Sith]

You can retreat along the front and realize flank coverage, barmaley will buy it))

[Flex]

Quote: c-Petrov

Three times won. All singers and dancers were awarded.

Estimate, you would have squeezed out such a comment in the presence of officers who returned from a business trip from Syria.
Your nose would become porridge and the next time your head would turn on before you press the buttons.

But alas. Even if you find yourself in such a company, a sense of fear will tell you what can be spewed out and what is not worth it and there will be no such remarks

Mr. Sergeant Petrov. and for whose interests are they fighting there? For yours. Prigogine. Sechina? Specify - very interesting ......

[Nastia makarova]

they are fighting there because Russia ordered

[Olya Tsako]

In fact, traffic from Hama to Aleppo is again impossible on the M-5 highway.

What is the role of Turkey in the success of the barmalei? Turks, like, did not provide direct support, limiting themselves to providing equipment.

Why did the fall of Saraqib happen? The fact is that the most capable units of the SAA - "Tigers" were transferred to southern Idlib, where a successful offensive has been going on for several days. In Sarakib, there were ordinary units, formed from ordinary citizens of Syria and not having much experience.

However, one should not consider the loss of Sarakib as an out of the ordinary event. All CAA forces have now switched to southern Idlib, after cleansing which government forces will be able to develop the offensive in all directions. News is already coming that southern Idlib has come under the full control of the SAA.

In fact, the Turkoman concentrated all their forces on the Sarakib section, forming a fist there. In other areas, they have practically no one left. This allows us to count on the immediate re-success of CAA.

[Nastia makarova]

all correctly written, unlike the majority in which everything was gone)))

[Gardamir]

While I was shaving she asked me something, she answered herself, she was offended. He left the bathroom already divorced.
This is not about you? Be friends with Russophobes like Petrov less. For him, Russia is the Kremlin; he does not recognize another
I specifically said. Tired of bravura reports, I want real victories, once and for all.
But in our time, the interests of business are more important than the interests of the state.

[Nastia makarova]

unfortunately this is so (about business), but in other countries it is almost everywhere, such a new world

[Paranoid50]

Quote: Gardamir

I want real victories, once and for all.

1. Purchased (downloaded) "Blitzkrieg 2"
2. Installed
3. Starts up
4. Then everything depends on skills and considerations ... Although, what am I talking about ...

[gmb]

Beautiful answer

[2Albert]

It is very reminiscent of the situation in the battle of Aleppo in August 2018, when the SAA also fled from positions in Rashiddin, one of the reasons was the death of the general, beginning combat area. But now the 4th division of the WG has collapsed, and this is a real problem, the SAA alone will not be able to fight off the Turks.

[anjey]

Let's hope that this is our next "Turkish gambit" in Syria-South Idlib in exchange for a temporary surrender of Serakib.

[alavrin]

Respect to the author of the article, especially for the cards. In contrast to cap-takers and all-propalists - the desire for a real assessment of the situation.

[Ural resident]

Quote: Olya Tsako

In fact, traffic from Hama to Aleppo is again impossible on the M-5 highway.

What is the role of Turkey in the success of the barmalei? Turks, like, did not provide direct support, limiting themselves to providing equipment.

Why did the fall of Saraqib happen? The fact is that the most capable units of the SAA - "Tigers" were transferred to southern Idlib, where a successful offensive has been going on for several days. In Sarakib, there were ordinary units, formed from ordinary citizens of Syria and not having much experience.

However, one should not consider the loss of Sarakib as an out of the ordinary event. All CAA forces have now switched to southern Idlib, after cleansing which government forces will be able to develop the offensive in all directions. News is already coming that southern Idlib has come under the full control of the SAA.

In fact, the Turkoman concentrated all their forces on the Sarakib section, forming a fist there. In other areas, they have practically no one left. This allows us to count on the immediate re-success of CAA.

You forgot to list 2 more points, Turkey almost directly uses its artillery in the Syrian troops. Turkish drones fly in the air, adjust the fire, which was not there before. The second point is the absence of an aerospace forces in this area.

[no better place for]

Nastya Makarova, how much do they pay for the post at the troll factory?))

[Nastia makarova]

who pays you ????

[Dog]

Quote: neden

how much do they pay for a post in a troll factory?

Pennies. Work for real losers. Therefore, the comments from them are such - without a glimpse of intelligence.

[protoss]

from the title photo of one commander I found out - this is a passenger of a blue helicopter. and the rest who?

[16112014nk]

Nevertheless, we must admit that there are no Arabs. From our Palmyra they fled, leaving all their property, 4 of our special forces were killed due to the Syrians who escaped from positions. Here the Persians are another matter!

[voyaka uh]

At least T-90 tanks were not abandoned in Palmyra. On them "Eagles of the Desert" and fled from ISIS.
And here in Sarakib a few T-72s were left to the Turkmens. Including the latest upgrades.

[1970mk]

What are the Persians? Are Iranians Persians? How interesting...

[Evgeny Ivanov_5]

I look forward to the beginning of March. It is very interesting how the Turks will fulfill their ultimatum. By the way, and I do not exclude this option of idlib agreements. The whole of February is a massacre, by the end of the month the Syrians allegedly begin to lose fighting enthusiasm and their fighters are knocked out of the province. By early March, the front is stabilizing at the borders of the Sochi agreements. Ours shrug and say Well kwa !! The Syrians could not.
Idlib turns into a variant of the golan under the control of Turkey. Russia does not suffer image losses. Turks do not shoot down our planes. Everyone is happy

[Nastia makarova]

almost so it will be only 40% of the idlib will remain with Assad

[Grits]

Quote: Nastia Makarova

almost so it will be only 40% of the idlib will remain with Assad

Nastya, the Turks will have the strength and foolishness to keep all of Idlib and, if desired, another 40% of Syria. There is no force that can oppose them there. Rather, there is. But she’s afraid that it would not get worse.

[Evgeny Ivanov_5]

Unfortunately this is the case. It is already evident that ours have taken a position as before the WWII. Potentially Ready to lose planes, God forbid, get to the Turks. Very similar to exchange. Just not in our favor.

[Astra wild]

Tipun to your tongue

Quote: Gritsa

Quote: Nastia Makarova

what resources and money will it cost?

It will cost a lot of resources and money. But, as we see, Edik was not afraid and oppresses his line. Apparently, he decided that in case of victory he takes himself the whole bank. Yes, and the status of the strongest army in the region will get itself, the authority in his country will increase, will begin to restore the empire, completely become impudent. This is all possible with a 90% probability. He is on horseback.
He will lose if he enters the war with Russia. But he is sure that our leadership will be stoned.

Do you want Russia to declare war on Turkey?

[Nastia makarova]

dope is enough, but is it necessary? what resources and money will it cost?

[Grits]

Quote: Nastia Makarova

what resources and money will it cost?

It will cost a lot of resources and money. But, as we see, Edik was not afraid and oppresses his line. Apparently, he decided that in case of victory he takes himself the whole bank. Yes, and the status of the strongest army in the region will get itself, the authority in his country will increase, will begin to restore the empire, completely become impudent. This is all possible with a 90% probability. He is on horseback.
He will lose if he enters the war with Russia. But he is sure that our leadership will be stoned.

[Nastia makarova]

Yes, this is only the beginning of the clash, let's see what will happen in a month, yesterday 22 Turks were killed in an attack on a convoy

[Grits]

Quote: Nastia Makarova

Yes, this is only the beginning of the clash, let's see what will happen in a month, yesterday 22 Turks were killed in an attack on a convoy

Already someone, and Erdogan losses of hundreds of people do not scare. He can sacrifice a lot for the sake of joining himself part of the territory of Syria and the status of the leader of the nation and unifier of the lands of the Ottoman Empire. But on the other hand, an increase in the number of killed Turkish soldiers is an increase in the number of questions to him from relatives, military and opposition. And only they can stop him and take him under prison. After all, he had already bitten a bit.

[Nastia makarova]

he will not be able to attach the territory, only control through a proxy, giving hundreds of dead for this is not very profitable

[Evgeny Ivanov_5]

I doubt it. Erdogan needs territory to dump smartly into and refugees. And therefore all Idlib.

[Nastia makarova]

not the whole but only 35 km from the border, he said it himself

[akropin]

It seems that there is now such a kneading that it is impossible to perceive any information 100% as true. The truth will be told only by an online satellite that is not accessible to mere mortals. And information stuffing is part of tactics. As an option for unstable units, they read it, thought why we needed it and then supposedly tactical retreat. In fact, everything can be more radical worse or better on the spot.

[Titus]

Quote: zloba71

In the Donbass, our political leadership has done everything right. Now Donbass is a buffer zone between Russia and Ukraine. If Donbass became Russian, then nothing would have prevented the Amers from giving the Ukrainians a command to start a war with Russia. There is a reason - we will return Crimea! After that, we would be very pleased to observe how the Slavs chop each other, not forgetting to throw weapons and mercenaries to the Ukrainians. And there would be a batch of a much larger scale than the one that is now in the Donbass. And the unrecognized and non-aligned Donbass tied the hands of the Ukrainians and their puppeteers, because while you have a civil war in your country, you won’t go to war as a neighbor.
And Donbass will remain part of Ukraine, as strategically, he is not very interesting to us, unlike the Crimea. And sooner or later, a pro-Russian leader will come to power in Ukraine anyway. Let not immediately. There will be a Maidan, then a second, a third, and it doesn’t matter how many there will be, but sooner or later the people will throw off the power they hate (I do not consider a bunch of frostbitten radicals). And when Ukraine becomes our friend, it will be difficult for it, as an agrarian country, to reach out without the industrial Donbass. And why should we sponsor it later, in order to keep afloat, it is better not to rob her of an important industrial region.

Yes, one can immediately see a politician or a deputy from those who encouraged people in LDNR, and therefore blood not only politicians 404, but also those who gave false hopes

[Xenofont]

Played out with the agreements. The advisers failed, as I wrote a few days ago. chased mirages and here is the result.

[Campanella]

Swing. It’s time for Erogenich to drive pigs into the garden so that life does not seem to be honey!

[Bolbot]

What do you want. To militants armed, motivated, with enormous combat experience, stupidly surrendered? More rivers of blood will be shed, billions of money will be spent until everything settles down.

[Andrey.AN]

with combat experience there are several times less than in the armed forces of the SAR whose opponents mainly report to Allah on their affairs, mainly recruits from all Turkish private security companies.

[Bolbot]

So yes, what prevents the Turks from organizing like an informal PMC. They have a good example before their eyes. And the problem of unemployment is being solved, and strict submission is ensured, and the Turkish armed forces are not involved.

[Ulysses]

Remember, after the drape of the SAA from Palmyra, the same mood was among a certain part of the forum users.
"FSE profiled, the guard, the militants are marching victoriously to Damascus!"
Where are those fighters and under whom is Palmyra now?

[Vladimir Nizhegorodsky]

So much misinformation is being poured on the Internet and on TV, they say, whoever knocked out and captured whom.
Still ahead.
And the boiler in the Idlib viper is brewed for barmaley.
Iran, Syria and Russia are still not shkolota.
But quite a force.

[Astra wild]

Russia yes, Arabs are weaker

[7,62x54]

It's time to connect long-range aviation and the Caspian flotilla

[Volga073]

Shoigu - wake up!

[Astra wild]

Quote: K-612-O

Just ours and Sadykovskaya are processing the outskirts of Serakib, the city itself is in the hands of the Sadyks. The most important thing is that all this is a heroic offensive of the homeless people, more and more creeps into the boiler.

All the same, Serakib did not surrender?

[Shahno]

Quote: Vladimir Nizhny Novgorod

So much misinformation is being poured on the Internet and on TV, they say, whoever knocked out and captured whom.
Still ahead.
And the boiler in the Idlib viper is brewed for barmaley.
Iran, Syria and Russia are still not shkolota.
But quite a force.

Russia seems not to be. Iran is head over heels in problems, like Syria ..

[shoroh]

If the conflict in idlib goes into confrontation between Russia and Turkey, then the General Staff probably has plans to neutralize the Turkish fleet and army. And without using yao. It’s just that NATO will not allow the defeat of an ally. And Putin knows that. Therefore, you have to live with it somehow.

[16329]

There will be no escalation into confrontation. Most likely a new dividing line will be established inside Idlib until the next series.
Sometimes you need to take parts

[Alexey from Perm]

Where then all the Urya-patriots fled .. strange

[Victor March 47]

Quote: Gritsa

Quote: Romario_Argo

the main thing is that the militants were ALMOST knocked out of the mountains in southern Idlib

This is not the main thing. But what the roads have lost and the ability to quickly maneuver is the main thing

Judging by the video coming from there, there are roads everywhere. Where you go, there’s the road. This is especially convenient for armored vehicles. At least mining, and other troubles aside. This is not the cliffs of the Hindu Kush or the Amazon swamp.

[Dog]

Quote: Victor March 47

Where you go, there is a road

The M5 goes through the highlands. There it does not channel.

[Victor March 47]

Quote: Dog

Quote: Victor March 47

Where you go, there is a road

The M5 goes through the highlands. There it does not channel.

I drove all over the M5 on Google Earth. You cannot name a flat plain. But where are the mountains?

[Dog]

Quote: Victor March 47

Drove all over the M5 on Google Earth

It remains to go to the page of some dictionary and find out how "mountainous" differs from "mountainous".
Water - watery,
Forest - wooded,
Mountain - mountainous
etc

[Victor March 47]

Quote: Dog

Quote: Victor March 47

Drove all over the M5 on Google Earth

It remains to go to the page of some dictionary and find out how "mountainous" differs from "mountainous".
Water - watery,
Forest - wooded,
Mountain - mountainous
etc

So, essentially? Mountainous, mountainous. Mountainous without mountains. Nonsense. Show mountainous, coordinates in this program. Or are we in the classroom of the Russian language? Or all the same, already in the school corridor, are we going to the toilet to smoke cigarettes?

[Dog]

Quote: Victor March 47

Or are we in the classroom of the Russian language?

In order to have the opportunity of productive communication, the parties should uniformly understand the terminology used. You don’t even need to go to school here, this fact is obvious to a person already in the senior / middle / junior group of the kindergarten.

To preserve this uniform understanding and compiled by people all kinds of dictionaries.

Wiktionary:

mountainous
...
Meaning:
- covered in mountains, hilly, elevated (locality)

https://ru.wiktionary.org/wiki/гористый

[w70]

And what is the use of Russia from the war with Turkey? Again we chose the wrong ally

[EvilLion]

The Germans had their last tactical victories at the regiment / brigade level just in May of the 45th.

[Victor March 47]

Quote: w70

And what is the use of Russia from the war with Turkey? Again we chose the wrong ally

Wouldn't we have become a prostitute by choosing the enemy as an ally? Choosing the pose of a puppy trying to appease the godfather, humiliatingly exposing his neck and hiding his tail, NATO says everything, and Turkey has never been and will never be an ally for us. To wave a fan at a third-rate country and ask every minute, “what do you want?” Is not for us. Then for sure, they will make Yugoslavia of us. We do not want war with anyone. But, here is to MAKE respect, maintaining the status of a great power, we must. Not for fanaticism, but for self-preservation. And to have your own influence there, limiting the influence of others - this is the policy pursued by Russia. For this, the sale of the S-400, gas pipes, and attempts to tear it away from NATO, having quarreled with the rest. Not everything works out? Yes. But there is no other way.

[Aerkin12]

Bulgaria, which Russia liberated from Turkey, almost always later fought against Russia, and Russia fell into a crisis after the war of 1870. In the same way, Syria will become an enemy of Russia, but only then. The time of empires has passed. It turns out that Russia was hired for some privileges to protect someone. Has Russia really forgotten that in a civil war there are no right and wrong.

[Aerkin12]

Quote: Aerkin12

Bulgaria which Russia freed from Turkey, which
almost always then fought against Russia, and Russia fell into crisis after the war of 1870. In the same way, Syria will become an enemy of Russia, but only then. The time of empires has passed. It turns out that Russia was hired for some privileges to protect someone. Has Russia really forgotten that in a civil war there are no right and wrong.

[ROBIN-SON]

Syria is the Achilles heel of the Russian Federation and GDP. We can’t fight with the Turks, the West will immediately remember that Turkey is in NATO, we can’t lie under them either, if you give us a finger, they’ll bite off your hand. Moreover, the crisis is approaching, oil is becoming cheaper and this is no longer a temporary ebb, but seems to be a trend. The treasury is drying up, who should take it from? From the population it is possible, but not possible. If you touch the hucksters, they will run to the West.

[huntsman650]

29.02.20/XNUMX/XNUMX. Message from I. Strelkov and commentary from "Don of the Russian Federation".

"Once again regarding the Turkish armed forces:

The Turks have good and numerous UAVs. Including drums. In Libya, all last year they hit our “musicians” in the tail and mane with them. In Syria they are now beating people too.
Turkish artillery has plenty of NATO precision-guided shells (also guided by UAVs). And the artillery itself is strong and numerous.
The Turks have many times more tanks (including quite modern Leopard-2 tanks) than the SAA currently has. And the tank units themselves are fully equipped, equipped with all types of spare parts and rely on their own good repair base.
Turkish special forces are numerous, well armed and very experienced (they have been chasing the Kurds for decades).
The total number of combined arms formations that the Turks are capable of - even without resorting to mobilization (and they can and will do it successfully and quickly) - exceeds many times everything that the SAA and VKS/PMCs can put on the battlefield at the moment.
Turkish front-line aviation is capable in the coming days of deploying four times more combat aircraft and helicopters than the Aerospace Forces have in this theater. And even their relative obsolescence - compared to videoconferencing - cannot compensate for their numerical superiority.
The total number of combat-ready ships of the Turkish fleet does not allow one to hope for the success of landing operations in the Black Sea “from the word at all.” But the Russian Federation will not be able to strengthen its group at the expense of other fleets - since the straits are in the hands of the Turks.
And finally, the Turks are good and persistent soldiers, with high fighting spirit. This was not denied even by those commanders of the past who successfully defeated the Turks many times. - mainly - due to the traditionally poor (during the era of the decline of the Sublime Porte) control of the Turkish troops.

By popular demand, I am commenting on the situation in Idlib.

1. Tactical situation at the front (approximately - since I don’t have an “exclusive” - based on open sources).

Both sides are carrying out simultaneous offensives on two different sectors of the front. In the last week, the SAA (I believe that it was not the Syrians at the forefront of the attack, but Iranian and Russian PMCs) successfully cleared the mountainous areas of Southern Idlib, encountering very weak resistance from the militants, whose main forces were pulled by the Turks to the city of Saraqib in eastern Idlib. - There the Turks launched a counter-attack, which further developed into their wide offensive. As a result, the Turks took the relatively large city of Saraqib (taken by the SAA in early February), cut the strategically important M-5 highway and continue to expand the breakthrough zone to the south and east - towards Aleppo. The offensive is being conducted in a densely populated and relatively flat area, rich in transport communications, which allows the Turks to widely and effectively use their armored vehicles and artillery, which are actively participating in the battles. The Turkish offensive is significantly hampered by the dominance of Russian aviation in the air, which has proceeded to directly defeat the Turkish troops advancing along with the militants. The Turks suffered significant losses. If Turkish troops massively use their own combat aviation and army air defense systems, the situation will change dramatically and we will face a battle for air supremacy, which will quickly escalate into a direct and overt armed conflict between Turkey and the Russian Federation throughout Syria.

2. Military-political strategic situation.
As I have already written more than once, a direct armed conflict with Turkey on the territory of Syria will lead to the immediate blocking of the Black Sea straits (i.e. the Bosporus and Dardanelles - and I warned about the threat of this exactly in the fall of 2015) for Russian military vessels and cargo, and air space - to transport them by air (military transport aviation is the most vulnerable to destruction by air defense systems - this is an axiom). That is, in a short time - even with the most favorable development of events (that is, holding the front in Idlib and gaining air supremacy in the fight against Turkish aviation and air defense) - our expeditionary force will begin to experience an acute and ever-growing shortage of everything necessary: ​​fuel , - to ammunition and food. In addition, the Turks, who have truly large ground forces, are able to quickly (based on their own territory) launch a large-scale offensive throughout the border territory of Syria - far beyond the borders of Idlib - that is, in Kuridstan, Aleppo, Latakia. There will simply be nothing to resist them on these fronts without the involvement of the Iranian regular army (the semi-guerrilla formations of the Kurds will only be able to provide deterrent resistance - nothing more). But the involvement of the Iranian regular army: a) is a big question; b) will almost inevitably cause a military reaction from Israel and the United States - the conflict will cease to be narrowly regional and the chances of the Russian Federation emerging from it with any success will decrease even more. And finally, c) a full-scale war with Turkey will inevitably lead to an attempt by the Ukrainians to “stab in the back” - and there is no confidence that in a war “on several fronts” our military machine will be able to act effectively.
To summarize, it is completely unclear to me what our commander-in-chief is counting on at the current stage of the initially idiotic Syrian adventure."

[growth-ok]

I don’t want to compete in sarcasm and wit, like many forum users.
But. Does anyone else remember exactly what tasks the Turks faced under the terms of the “unfulfilled” agreement with Russia? The demarcation of “radicals” and “moderates” in the Idlib zone. Instead, Turkey and others are systematically turning the “de-escalation” zone into an “escalation” zone. However, the task remains the same:
1. Lure the most combat-ready units of the militants (not to say regular units, fertilized by the Turkish military industry) away from residential areas to minimize losses among civilians.
2. Blocking gangs in a scorched, prepared territory without the possibility of supply, followed by their destruction.
And now the question is: is this not what we are seeing?

[Alexfly]

shoot down planes and missiles, having lost air support, no one will go to the bayonet...