The first woman pilot of long-range aviation may appear in Russian aerospace forces

In the Russian VKS, the first female pilot of the Far aviation. According to the deputy chief of the Krasnodar Higher Military Aviation School (KVVAUL) Oleg Buchelnikov, one of the cadets of the school expressed a desire to undergo training specifically for the training program for pilots of the DA.

Ekaterina Pchela is so far the only representative who is studying under long-range aviation programs. She comes from a dynasty of pilots (her father is Colonel Oleg Pchela, commander of the Engels Guards Aviation Donbass Red Banner Division, located in the Saratov Region - approx. “VO”)

- he said, adding that in case of successful completion of the school, she could become the first hereditary pilot of the Long-Range Aviation to continue her father’s work.

In addition, Buchelnikov explained, now female cadets of the school, who chose to study the profession of a military pilot, began to study not only for pilots in military transport aviation, but also for all types of military aviation.

In all four specialties there is at least one of the girls. One on the assault, one on the far, seven on the fighter, the rest on the military transport (there are 45 students in total at the school)

- he explained, noting that, on average, girls are better trained than boys, and the average score for tests and exams is higher.

Recall that the first set of girls in the Krasnodar VVAUL was held in 2017 by personal order of the Minister of Defense Sergey Shoigu.

Comments

[The leader of the Redskins]

I hope a beautiful "white swan" will be allocated for the fair sex)))

[svp67]

Quote: Leader of the Redskins

I hope a beautiful "white swan" will be allocated for the fair sex)))

And what else, at least there is a bathroom on it ...

[Piramidon]

Quote: svp67

And what else, there’s at least a bathroom on it ..

On the Tu-95 urinals.

[figwam]

Quote: Leader of the Redskins

I hope a beautiful "white swan" will be allocated for the fair sex)))

I hope never, women have nothing to do there.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: figvam

I hope never, women have nothing to do there.

Not a woman's business army and war. Women must plan fighters.

[Cut Samshitov]

Quote: figvam

Quote: Leader of the Redskins

I hope a beautiful "white swan" will be allocated for the fair sex)))

I hope never, women have nothing to do there.

Vague doubts gnaw - and without a dad the divisional commander could have acted? I remember they created a female tank crew - to the joy of journalists, colleagues in a curse. The grandmothers could ride and shoot, but the BC loaded / unloaded, waved a sledgehammer in the cold - they forced the men of the contractors. And did anyone consider the damage from the downtime of the pilot on maternity leave? And if three decides to give birth?

[73bor]

Here one of the two, or a pilot or a woman, mother, and wife. Nonsense is all a whim.

[ximkim]

A better fighter. Women are very: treacherous, patient, prudent.

[Professor Preobrazhensky]

The crew of the long-range bomber was unlucky ...
Neither fart, do not mumble, do not grumble about the women during the flight.

[SanSanych Gusev]

Our pilots do not fart

[qwerty183]

And poop butterflies ..........

[neri73-r]

Quote: SanSanych Gusev

Our pilots do not fart

Yeah, they let your whisperer ....

[AU Ivanov.]

I was somehow embarrassed to stink at the helm. Not comme il faut it. Tea is not alone in the booth.

[Lord of the Sith]

You can do this in the kitchen or sofa, but certainly not during the flight))

[Serg65]

Quote: Lord of the Sith

or couch

Now the men have occupied the sofa, and the women are going to defend their homeland, where is the world going? !!!

[Lord of the Sith]

As you put it "women", it is more correct to say women, Motherland has always been defended in war.
And some eggs have more than the sofa guard.

[Serg65]

Quote: Lord of the Sith

As you put it "women", it is more correct to say women

By and large, without a difference ..

Quote: Lord of the Sith

And some eggs have more than the sofa guard.

Here I very much agree!

[paul3390]

But it is necessary to force her to take a fart at the entrance exams before the commission, and loudly swear for two minutes. Will - is fit for service ..

[Serg65]

Quote: paul3390

And you need her

Or maybe you will change places with this girl? She is on the sofa, and you are under uniform!

[Lord of the Sith]

Easy take-off and soft landing girls!

[Livonetc]

"Easy Takeoff And Soft Landing, Pleasant Life, Long And Sweet!"

[fighter angel]

This is nothing personal.
I am not a woman-hater, but here we must think soberly.
She flies, and then the decree is a minimum of 1.5 years break in flight work.
Firstly, a replacement, and secondly, then it will be reintroduced into operation.
Consider learning again.
Well, the physiological characteristics of the female body have not yet been canceled by any commander.
How are we going to fly and carry out combat missions during "these days" ???
The Soviet Air Force had experience in this regard, they also tried to put girls in the cockpit of combat aircraft.
But alas, it turned out to be negative.
So why again on the same rake ???

[Ros 56]

You ask the "Night Witches", and you flew not only on Po-2, but also on bombers and fighters, but my God, even on tanks and imagine not just flying, but fighting. And notice there were enough Heroes of the Soviet Union among them.

[fighter angel]

Then there was a need.
Now is a whim!
And you do not compare those Po-2, Yak-1 and Pe-2 with modern Tu-95MS, Tu-22M3, Tu-160 ...

[AU Ivanov.]

The fact of the matter is that aunts flew in open cockpits when blowing into the mug and oil from the engine flies, and even in closed heating there was no illusory effort at the helm at Peshka. Nothing, coped.

[fighter angel]

Dear, in no case do not want to hurt you, nor disturb their memory.
But this, excuse me, is the infantry’s reasoning about aviation.
In the "walking about flying" mode.
What was then, and what is now, are two huge differences.

[AU Ivanov.]

I’m not an infantryman, I’m just a pilot, civilian, former. It’s one thing to drag the horns in the cold cabin of the pawn and completely different to move the side stick in the cockpit of the Watermelon with your fingers. I do not think that on far-off conditions are still Spartan.

[fighter angel]

Here at the "Pawn", Pe-2, there were amplifiers. It was the first electrified aircraft in our Air Force, so it was easier to pull the horns there. And about the dive - female 587 BAP worked mainly from level flight.
The point is not in the conditions of piloting, but in the conditions of service.
It is one thing to be an exemplary aerobatics, and quite another is the routine of military service, and not everyone is able to withstand it, let alone a woman with her physiology.

[AU Ivanov.]

As if civilian pilots with their enormous raid work easier. Girls up to 60-80 hours a month fly in, as if it is much more than a raid on long-distance truck.

[fighter angel]

So dear you are mine. Well, let them scratch their pilots.
And in military aviation, in addition to the raid, by the way there is much more than you called, there are also a whole host of duties, tasks and a different load. They do not carry passengers, but must be ready to fulfill the BATTLE TASK! At any time, in any conditions and in any condition, and with a willingness to sacrifice. This is the first.
Second. The girl will obviously be favored by her dad. No one will convince me here. The tales that "she achieved everything herself" - leave it for someone else. Something suddenly goes wrong - "buzz" to dad, and a "buzzing" piston will fly to the unfortunate squadron commander and the regiment commander. Control from the father's side will always be and in any case. Even if she is modesty, what are the big doubts. And dad by the time his daughter graduates will already be with stripes. And the unfortunate part that this girl will get to serve. Would you like to be in the place of this regiment? I personally, for no good ...

[Ros 56]

Just don’t compare what it was like to fly in cockpits open to all winds and weather and not the fact that they were closed on fighters, I'm not talking about I-16 and I-15. There, too, the people grabbed the grief.
By the way, as an An-24 in control, our former athlete flew as a commander on it back in Soviet times and nothing, respected male pilots.
And on the Tu-160, even the GDP for the control stick held up. Yes, here Marina Popovich somehow recalled, in my opinion, she wiped her nose off some of the men, It seemed she was a test pilot. And Savitskaya, and Serova, but what can I say. I'm talking about the girls of the aerobatic team of the national team of the Union and Russia am silent. Especially on the screw ones, where they are so tall, men fall from their feet, take an interest from Kopanina. It was not a reel, it was important who was sitting in the cockpit.

[fighter angel]

So you do not compare aerobatics with combat pilots, especially - with long-range and strategists. And about Svetlana Kapanina, so take an interest in her. And you know that the most interesting thing is that she, being an unsurpassed aerobatics, the absolute world champion in aerobatics, would never have gone to military aviation, because she believes that a woman does not have a place in military aviation.
How do you like the opinion of a female pilot?
I have already said above, I repeat once again:
Aerobatics is one thing, but military service and routine is another!
You do not know by chance what happened to Svetlana Protasova at the time?
And how does she live now, and what does she do?

[Ros 56]

Nobody argues, everywhere has its own specifics, and to whom and where to be, everyone chooses for himself. This is what I am trying to explain to you, and you immediately begin to build fences.

[Souchastnik]

So why again on the same rake ???

Appalistically reasoning, colleague. But what about political correctness and other European values ​​?. Everywhere women occupy their worthy position in society, and you are such statements ...

[SanSanych Gusev]

Waiting for pedarasts?

[Kurare]

Quote: Souchastnik

But what about political correctness and other European values?

To be honest, I see nothing wrong with a woman flying a bomber. Here, even political correctness is not necessary if she knows her job tightly.
That's where the woman really has no place, so it's on a submarine.

[dauria]

To be honest, I see nothing wrong with a woman flying a bomber.

You will be the unit commander - who will you choose? Daughter of a "bump" or an ordinary fly? Not only will they devour "attention" everything from the media to the bosses, but also rush with this miracle, as with a crystal vase. Nafig.

[Kurare]

Quote: dauria

Daughter of a "bump" or an ordinary fly?

If she is just a "daughter of a bump", then the question is definitely not in her favor.

Quote: dauria

Not only will they devour "attention" everything from the media to the bosses, but also rush with this miracle, as with a crystal vase. Nafig.

Here, yes, there is such a moment. But, once this "attention" passes and a difficult routine work begins. Here "chickens are counted in the fall."

[dauria]

sometime this "attention" passes

I hope it will pass quickly for the commanders - they will be "promoted" away from sin, where there will be no harm from her. She needs this - "honor and attention". There is nothing to expect any benefit.

[figwam]

Quote: fighter angel

How are we going to fly and carry out combat missions during "these days" ???

Let the whole world wait.

[Pete mitchell]

Here, too, I am not a woman-hater, and I agree with

Quote: fighter angel

This is nothing personal. I am not a woman-hater, but here I must think soberly ...

First they will climb into the boyish 'sandbox', and then they will begin to whine - that they are not treated like girls.

[figwam]

Quote: Pete Mitchell

First they will climb into the boyish 'sandbox', and then they will begin to whine - that they are not treated like girls.

So they will be forced to adapt to them.

[Pete mitchell]

Quote: figvam

So they will be forced to adapt to them.

They will try. I came across, the funniest thing is that the attempt to hit was a trifle, I had to "put in place", portrayed an insult - well, do not care

[knn54]

- in case of successful graduation, she may become the first hereditary pilot of Long-range aviation, who continued the work of her father.
And if in the process of study does not "fly in".

[Podvodnik]

Well, the physiological characteristics of the female body have not yet been canceled by any commander.

That's it. The staff of the medical unit will also have to enter a gynecologist. Nowhere without it.
With all the love for the fair sex: "Maybe not?"

[Bryanskiy_Volk]

If Kuzhugetovich would pay indirect losses to the state from maternity leave for pilots from his own pocket, then he would think twice about his initiatives. And so - yes, our state is rich

[rocket757]

Ekaterina Pchela is so far the only representative who is studying under long-range aviation programs.

Sportswoman, Komsomol member, beauty .... last name generally winged! God himself commanded to give her wings under control!

[ugol2]

Sportswoman, Komsomol member, beauty .... last name generally winged!

I forgot the most important thing.
Have you seen who her dad is?

Colonel Oleg Pchela, commander of the Engels Guards Aviation Donbass Red Banner Division

Colonel Divisional Commander in the General's position. It is also seen not from the "simple".
With such a dad, the girl has an open road to big stars. And the entire command will help her move forward, if only to get rid of such a fighter.
The main thing is that desire itself would not disappear, and at least be a colonel to my daughter.

[dauria]

The main thing is that desire itself would not disappear

Yeah. And then he will change his mind and go to saleswomen or nurses. Until the age of 60, he is hunched over for 20 pieces a month .. Yes, without male enthusiasm and media attention.

[ugol2]

I didn’t understand you completely.
But perhaps it is better for the general's daughter's girl to sell flowers in a salon in the north of Moscow than to sniff kerosene in the south of the Amur Region among the taiga on Ukrainka. There, the romance will quickly disappear, and the world media does not look there. And there are also such places of service in long-range aviation as Bulunsky ulus, Tiksi; Kotelny Island, Novosibirsk Islands ... Or all this "- fi!", not for the General's daughter. We would have a court regiment and increased attention.

[dauria]

I didn’t understand you completely.

Yes, come on .. All you understand. These ladies will not be in Mogoch, nor in the Middle White, nor in the Bezrezhno. So, be noted for a while. And they didn’t take them because there was a shortage in the flight schools of oblique and lame boys, but the war grind a bunch of personnel pilots ....
Fuck it, daughters and dads. Moreover, due to the country's defense capability, this is the most scanty thing. And so - don’t feel sorry, fly, even wear a uniform. Look like princes from the emirates - military pilots at their own expense on their plane.

[fighter angel]

Plus you, namesake Alex!
Definitely right !.

[Bashkirkhan]

It looks like some kind of whim. Especially on our bombers, recently the Tu-22M3, after a major overhaul, miraculously planted it on the ground, it all burned out after grounding. It seems to sin on the engine nozzles. The girl needs work more calmly. I recalled the post where the district opera complained about the talking head on the TV when she received the colonel’s shoulder straps. He said: this is work, titles, books and sells, but in fact did not work as a real cop, where there are corpses, dumb grandmothers and teenagers in the hallways, nariks and alcohol. I didn’t see what the work of the district police officer looked like, for 36k. rubles and a length of service at the age of 20, so he was so doused with shit that the top of his head is not visible.

[New Year day]

Quote: Bashkirkhan

this is work, titles,

For 14 years from the captain to the major general (at 42 years old), one must be able to

[infantryman2020]

That BMD crew (change tracks, pull the track, load ammunition, dig in the iron in the cold, ....).
That, now, the crew of a long-range bomber ....
Cheap wumen-pi-ar already rolls over.

[SanSanych Gusev]

Yesterday they wrote about 6th generation airplanes, they don’t plan your pilots there, some kind of intelligence will control!

[Bshkaus]

Yesterday they wrote about 6th generation airplanes, they don’t plan your pilots there, some kind of intelligence will control!

In vain they minus whether artificial intelligence will control it or not - this is still a big question, but the fact that even in the 5th generation a person is the weakest link is a scientific and objective fact. From open sources, one of the requirements of the 6th generation is hypersound, and now imagine what kind of cinder will remain from a person when ejected at a speed of 5-10 max. From here there really is a logical conclusion that "... a violinist is not needed ..."

[Doliva63]

Quote: infantryman2020

That BMD crew (change tracks, pull the track, load ammunition, dig in the iron in the cold, ....).
That, now, the crew of a long-range bomber ....
Cheap wumen-pi-ar already rolls over.

This is shoigu PR. He, in fact, continues the work of Serdyukov (the power has not changed, nothing has changed), but he only furnishes it with such shows that the rest is not visible.

[Bshkaus]

With all due respect, this is absolutely not a female affair, especially for YES.
After 12 hours of work at height and continuous wearing of a high-altitude suit, helmet and an oxygen mask drawn to my face, I’m not talking about camera work, you fall down on a bed exhausted and you can’t get rid of the feeling that you have a helmet with a mask on your head. At the same time, for such a period, the person can rub the mask and at best there will be redness, or even the next day a lot of acne that beauties are definitely not to face. On the body, too, from different folds, a bunch of rubbing from the rigid elements of the costume appears.
I understand that there is a small percentage of masculine women that compensate for the same percentage of effeminate men, but:
No no and one more time no!!!
BORSCHT, BORSCHT and BORSCHE again

[NN52]

Sergei

You forgot about the Navy, worn over the VKK. In general, pleasure is something else ....

[Pete mitchell]

Quote: Bshkaus

With all due respect, this is absolutely not a woman’s business .... BORSCHT, BORSCHT and BORSCHE again

Well, how can you not so democratically - kirhen, kuchen, kinder: 3k

[Bshkaus]

Well, how can it be so undemocratic

It was just a sad case, one young lady asked to try on equipment, got a couple of bruises on her hands, so after that I learned a lot of interesting things about myself ((((

Have you forgotten about the Navy, worn over the VKK

I definitely forgot about the Navy (((you can always put on it, although you can stay without ears, but taking it on time by yourself on standards is really a feat worthy of respect. There is a lot of people who think that sideways against the corner of the wall or a tree trunk helps))))))) (((((((

[AU Ivanov.]

Savitskaya tell it.

[Olya Tsako]

Rotaa! Savor !: Soldiers! Good girls! Where are your pa-a-arnies? ...
Rota picks up: Our pa-arnies are hawking from the a-army! That's where our pa-a-rni! ...

[Rusfaner]

"The first female pilot of Long-Range Aviation may appear in the Russian Aerospace Forces." (C)
"Where a horse with a hoof goes, there is a cancer with a claw!" - an old Russian saying.
And she will "drop out" from combat training every 28 days ... Well, and so on ...

[Dym71]

Fly bee

[prior]

I am not a sexist, but it would be better if they climbed into the mine ....
There was a blonde at the wheel, now she will be at the helm.

[AU Ivanov.]

Well, aunts, if they are not blond sheep, drive no worse than men, at least be careful. And in Mirny I saw an aunt at the helm of the An-26. From Katekavia, it seems, I can’t say for sure. But taxied cool, famously, not every man knows how.

[thinker]

her father is Colonel Oleg Pchela

All attention to the daughter and father has already become a major general.

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

And why not? .. Here’s the crew, female, this is normal. And one woman in the carriage is a problem. Do not swear, do not talk on ,, interesting ,, topics. And good luck to the girl! Well done!

[Doliva63]

Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich

And why not? .. Here’s the crew, female, this is normal. And one woman in the carriage is a problem. Do not swear, do not talk on ,, interesting ,, topics. And good luck to the girl! Well done!

Female crew ... For example, the crew commander immediately after an abortion, and in the morning flights - can she fly?

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

With looks like yours, they will be forever pregnant.

[Vladislava_I]

The good news, I am always happy when my gender in the Russian army is successful and active!
Good luck with all my heart to our beauty! Fly the little bee and pity the enemies if you have to!
And comments, as always, are ridiculous and dense. Oh, and who will replace if on maternity leave, and suddenly he’ll give birth to three, oh and how he will fly these days))) I always read that it’s purely neighing))
Looks like everyone forgot that the 21st century! And a woman may not give birth at all if she does not want to; no one has the right to indicate what to do! My godmother is 37 years old, no children, but a successful career in a foreign company, and the salary is at the level. I bought a car such that many here did not even dream of. She is happy and does not plan children now.
PS Critical days have not been a problem for a long time, I’m telling you the news of a man, medicine is not at the level of the times of Lenin now)))

[Pete mitchell]

Quote: Vladislav_I

a woman may not give birth at all if she does not want, no one has the right to indicate what to do! My godmother is 37 years old, no children, but a successful career in a foreign company, and the salary is at the level. I bought a car such that many here did not even dream of. She is happy and does not plan children and now

Well done, in two lines laid out the credo of life, there are no questions. Do you want a little bee? Have a successful career? So in the army this is doubtful, although of course the pope is a general. Financial well-being? This is definitely not in the army. I think it's better not to start family happiness.
The century may be 21, but kirchen, kutchen, kinder has not changed and this is a normal way of development. Everything else from the evil one

[Vladislava_I]

Quote: Pete Mitchell

Quote: Vladislav_I

a woman may not give birth at all if she does not want, no one has the right to indicate what to do! My godmother is 37 years old, no children, but a successful career in a foreign company, and the salary is at the level. I bought a car such that many here did not even dream of. She is happy and does not plan children and now

Well done, in two lines laid out the credo of life, there are no questions. Do you want a little bee? Have a successful career? So in the army this is doubtful, although of course the pope is a general. Financial well-being? This is definitely not in the army. I think it's better not to start family happiness.
The century may be 21, but kirchen, kutchen, kinder has not changed and this is a normal way of development. Everything else from the evil one

Katyusha Pchelke, I wish the fulfillment of what she wants and sees for herself in priority!
If she wants to be a military woman, wants to devote herself to the army - she must have the right to it!
And no one should tell her what to do and when to give birth there. She herself will decide what she needs. Maybe she, like my godmother, puts personal self-development at the forefront.
I’m not Femka, but after reading the comments I understand more and more of those who are fighting for rights.

[Pete mitchell]

Quote: Vladislav_I

If she wants to be a military woman, wants to devote herself to the army - she must have the right

My dear, you think too much about your rights, there is still responsibility. In this case, we are talking about the protection of the State, I am still worried about those with whom it will be close in business. As was the case in classic cinema - no studs.
Unlike you, I understand quite well what I'm talking about: in the service I had young women subordinates; later spent enough time in the same cabin with them: - home to aunts, uncles, dolls kirchen, kutchen, kinder and exercise your rights as you want

[Podvodnik]

She's happy

For some reason it seems to me that a woman is happy only when a little miracle runs up, hugs her leg and says: "Mommy, and I love you. Very, very much !!"

And a woman may not give birth at all

May not give birth. Only this is not a woman.

[Pete mitchell]

Quote: Podvodnik

Only this is not a woman

A generation of inverted values. She formulated all her ideals above. Save and save us from this scourge

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

Vladislav, you don’t pay attention to, cons, I’m just sure that these are the estimates of those who enlisted the tenth road bypassing during the call. But after 30 years, they immediately became ,, patriots of the Armed Forces and Navy ,,

[Blue fox]

I hope my dad will immediately pick up on the parquet flooring as he puts on his "sports" pants. Look, at 42 he will also become a promising major general.

[Vladislava_I]

Quote: Podvodnik

She's happy

For some reason it seems to me that a woman is happy only when a little miracle runs up, hugs her leg and says: "Mommy, and I love you. Very, very much !!"

And a woman may not give birth at all

May not give birth. Only this is not a woman.

You know, everyone has different concepts of happiness. One can sit with her Kolya conditional in the village, bear children like a cat and be happy. She does not care that she will spend her life in a wretched hole with Kolya, and a bunch of children. She will not know what education, career, traveling around the world, buying herself a personal transport for her earned. Personally, I will choose a career and self-development rather than Kolya. It is my choice.
So the pilot must choose her own path, but the comments show that everyone is trying to impose wretched thinking on her, give birth and sit with Kolya!

[Pete mitchell]

Quote: Vladislav_I

It is my choice. So the pilot must choose her own path, but the comments show that everyone is trying to impose wretched thinking on her, give birth and sit with Kolya!

Stop stop stop: no one imposes anything - due to life / professional experience - we do not agree to sing joyful hymns. And you imagine that the philosophy of military operations has not changed over the past 4000 years: find and destroy. Woman gives life; to take it is unnatural.
But Kolya still needs to be controlled; no one said that you would be interesting to him

[Vladislava_I]

Quote: Pete Mitchell

Quote: Podvodnik

Only this is not a woman

A generation of inverted values. She formulated all her ideals above. Save and save us from this scourge

Whether you want it or not, the 21st century will take its toll! In the past, they also believed that their cave values ​​were forever, the USSR thought that he was forever. But development and history shows that everything will be different! So the development DO NOT STOP)

[Pete mitchell]

Quote: Vladislav_I

Whether you want it or not, the 21st century will take its toll

Of course it will development it or regression - time will tell, giving rise to a completely different level of problems. I want to believe that your generation will be ready to solve these problems. Hopefully, not everyone will turn into an office plankton devouring each other for bonuses, someone will be able to think. And this someone will first of all remember the duties and responsibilities that will determine the rights and the choice: in that order.
Once before my eyes, an attractive mother of two children vigorously struggled with complete hydraulic failures, literally resting her feet on the dashboard and hardly moving the column. Would you hear that - help... It was a simulator, God forbid anyone to be in a real plane. My short jump jumped as a result: two men could not handle the pen ...

[iouris]

You need to live long in the Russian Federation, then you will live to see everything. (I didn’t hope to live up to this moment, but now I’ve survived. Thanks to the party for this.)

[Doliva63]

"The first female pilot of Long-Range Aviation may appear in the Russian Aerospace Forces"
Tin. Ugh, damn it!