The reason for the angry appeal of the Indian tribe to the president of the United States became known.


Indigenous peoples living in the south of the United States have appealed to the central authorities with the statement that even those territories that had previously turned into reservations for them are actually being withdrawn from their traditional use. We are talking about the appeal, which was filed by representatives of the Indian tribe Tohono O'odham, who lives in southern Arizona.


The angry appeal says that "with all the authorities' interest in building the wall on the border with Mexico, there are questions about the methods of such construction themselves."

The New York Times, which reports on "discontent expressed by indigenous people," writes that "builders admit an environmental and archaeological threat to the region in connection with the creation of the wall." American journalists immediately blamed Donald Trump for everything, saying that it is because of his policies that the aquifers that are used in the southwestern United States suffer.

From the material:

If you cut a cactus in Saguaro (Arizona), you, by law, face a prison. And over the past few weeks, workers have destroyed many protected cacti to build a section of the wall on the border with Mexico.

And this is from the appeal of the Indian tribe Tohono-O'odham to the US president:

Workers destroy our ancient burial places, they pump out the water resources that nourished the oasis in the desert, and thanks to which we and our forefathers quenched our thirst for 16 thousand years. To get a cement mortar, workers use water from the sources where we drink, and sand is taken from graves with the remains of our ancestors.


It must be emphasized that in 1937, UNESCO recognized this part of Arizona as a biosphere reserve.

Trump supporters called this letter from an Indian tribe “a provocation of the Democratic Party” and added that local residents receive “worthy compensation”.
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  1. knn54 27 February 2020 11: 21 New
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    - Local residents receive "decent compensation."
    Cacti?
    1. St Petrov 27 February 2020 11: 23 New
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      give them money, and they land. Everything as usual
      1. Barmaleyka 27 February 2020 11: 29 New
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        give them money

        in the sense of beads?
        1. figwam 27 February 2020 12: 03 New
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          locals receive "decent compensation."

          Previously, Indians were given a mirror in exchange for gold.
          1. Shurik70 27 February 2020 13: 13 New
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            locals receive “decent compensation”

            I believe that the bones of the ancestors, mixed with sand, are used to create concrete, it is necessary to give beads not only to the leaders, but to every Indian
        2. keeper03 27 February 2020 20: 47 New
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          And why not Russia support the local Indians!?! fellow And directly poke the USA in the shit about this! yes angry soldier
    2. Polite Moose 27 February 2020 11: 24 New
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      Quote: knn54
      - Local residents receive "decent compensation."
      Cacti?

      Woolen blankets.
      1. paul3390 27 February 2020 11: 27 New
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        Well, at least not infected with smallpox out of habit ..
        1. Yura 27 February 2020 11: 33 New
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          Quote: Polite Moose
          Woolen blankets.

          Quote: paul3390
          Well, at least not infected with smallpox out of habit ..

          But on the other hand, blankets from cut cacti are made.
          1. paul3390 27 February 2020 11: 35 New
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            "The hardships of life are much more easily tolerated if you are used to wiping your ass with a cactus from childhood."Native American Indian wisdom ..
        2. Polite Moose 27 February 2020 11: 35 New
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          Well, at least not infected with smallpox out of habit ..

          And then what is the point? request
          It's all about habits. In traditions, so to speak.
        3. Podvodnik 27 February 2020 16: 52 New
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          Well, at least not infected with smallpox out of habit ..


          It was the right, democratic smallpox. Smallpox of freedom.
      2. novel66 27 February 2020 11: 27 New
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        beads and mirrors!
        1. BARKAS 27 February 2020 13: 39 New
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          Most likely not with beads but with moonshine it is more effective.
    3. DenZ 27 February 2020 11: 26 New
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      This is better than graves. winked
      1. bessmertniy 27 February 2020 11: 40 New
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        Trump can give the Indians new improved reservations. wassat In Alaska.
  2. SanSanych Gusev 27 February 2020 11: 27 New
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    Separatism smelled at them
  3. Tank jacket 27 February 2020 11: 27 New
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    Oh ... Clintonoids of the Indians connected ...
  4. Barmaleyka 27 February 2020 11: 27 New
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    Sheriff Indians are not interested
    1. Zoldat_A 27 February 2020 13: 04 New
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      Sheriff Indians are not interested

      Traditionally, I would say. A nation that grew up on the genocide of Indians, in principle, can not take into account their interests.

      There used to be two opposing art forms.
      Goiko Mitich - good, honest, fair Indians and vile, greedy whites.
      Fenimore Cooper - kind, gullible, peaceful, hard-working white settlers and angry, cruel, treacherous redskins.
      I don’t know how it is about the Goiko Mitich Indians, but Fenimore Cooper was clearly lying about the white settlers - it’s enough to remember that it was not the Indians who came up with the scalps to shoot. Fenimore Cooper has no gu-gu ...
      1. Avior 27 February 2020 13: 42 New
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        Take Middle- Mine Reed. smile
        However, in films with Goiko Mitich, like Cooper, both Indians and whites are also very different.
        1. Zoldat_A 27 February 2020 13: 53 New
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          Take Middle- Mine Reed. smile
          However, in films with Goiko Mitich, like Cooper, both Indians and whites are also very different.

          Jack London has the Indians and something inanimate - a walking stick with eyes, intended by God as a draft cattle for the White Man. Well, in a pinch, talking forest ants.

          That is all fiction. The reality is tougher and simpler - millions of redskins destroyed. And a huge amount - in the most barbaric and vile ways.

          And yes, about the scalps and about who invented them - I also remember. Nobody paid the Indians for the dead whites. And no one required evidence in the form of scalps or cut off ears. Unlike the other way around ...
          1. Avior 27 February 2020 23: 05 New
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            Remember the scalps?
            The custom of skinning a person’s head as a trophy and a symbol of victory over him has been widely used in ancient times. Scythians skinned the heads of their enemies - as evidenced by the records of Herodotus. A similar practice was widespread among the peoples inhabiting Western Siberia, and among the ancient Persians.

            It is also known scalping among the steppe peoples, in particular, Scythians, Sarmatians, Alans and Huns.

            Roman historian of the XNUMXth century e. Ammianus Marcellinus writes about the Alans:

            Almost all of them are tall and beautiful, their hair is blond; they are menacing with the fierce gaze of their eyes and quick, thanks to the lightness of their weapons ... Alans are a nomadic people, they live in cabins covered with bark. They do not know farming, keep a lot of cattle and mostly many horses. The need to have permanent pastures determines their wanderings from place to place. From early childhood they get used to horseback riding, all of them are dashing riders and walking is considered a shame among them ... Their occupation is robbery and hunting. They love war and danger. They remove scalps from the killed enemies and decorate them with the reins of their horses ...

            Among the Indians, not all tribes were involved in scalping. For example, the Indians of the Canadian northwest and the entire Pacific coast have never taken scalps. The tribe of the eastern forests of North America, where the scalp was primarily a symbol of military valor, especially practiced this custom. It is believed that according to the beliefs of the Indians, removing the scalp from the defeated enemy had a magical meaning, and the scalping person was convinced that by removing the scalp from the enemy, he takes from him the “universal magical life force” that was in his hair. And the more scalps of the enemy the Indian warrior brought, the more he was respected in his tribe.

            and yet yes, white Indians paid for their traditional scalps of enemies ...
            But the Indians are not white, you're right ...
            hi
            1. Zoldat_A 27 February 2020 23: 34 New
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              and yet yes, white Indians paid for their traditional scalps of enemies ...

              Yes. And whites paid white. What I mean is that “civilized” colonizers, and not “savages” Indians, came up with the idea of ​​paying for scalps.
              Before the appearance of white people on the continent, scalping in Indians was carried out only for religious purposes and only in a small part of the tribes.
              The Indians did not have the custom of scalping their enemies until they were taught by their pale-skinned people.

              The Dutch began this process in the XNUMXth century and continued the British in the XNUMXth. It was they who first began to take scalps of enemies during the period of colonial wars on the continent.
              Scalping was a profitable business. The reason is that for every scalp of the French colonist they paid well. The scalp was a confirmation of the killing of the enemy. The Dutch and the British were engaged in scalping on their own and incited the Allied tribes of the Indians to attack the French colonists, as well as to conduct tribal wars, while paying not with money, but with “fiery water”. They bought scalps of both white people and Indians and exchanged them with money from their governments.

              In the future, the hunt was announced on the Indians themselves, since the conquerors needed the Indian lands. At the same time, the number of Indians killed due to the scalp was hundreds and thousands of times more than white people. Bloody hunting brought good profit. So in Pennsylvania in 1703, a male Indian scalp cost $ 124, and a woman $ 50. It was huge money at that time and the Indians were killed by entire tribes. White people gathered large punitive brigades and went hunting, sparing neither women nor children. In historical notes you can find a mention of the Bloody Bill, which in one day was able to remove 60 scalps, with among its victims were both Indians and white people.
              1. Avior 27 February 2020 23: 45 New
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                it’s clear that it’s white, but the Indians shot them before that.
                albeit in smaller quantities
                because they didn’t buy scalps for the sake of scalps, but how they paid for the killing of enemies, scalp is a proof
  5. Mouse 27 February 2020 11: 31 New
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    Where is the vaunted democracy spreading all over the world? And they will teach me not to pick their fingers in the nose ???? wassat
    1. bessmertniy 27 February 2020 11: 44 New
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      Do not confuse your nose with a stranger. lol This is their democracy - wherever they want, let it be shoved there. repeat
  6. Azazelo 27 February 2020 11: 32 New
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    Where where are the human rights hamsters ???
    1. PSih2097 27 February 2020 11: 47 New
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      Where where are the human rights hamsters ???

      And they don’t get paid for it, that’s not them ...
      1. Azazelo 27 February 2020 11: 50 New
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        Most likely the Indians are simply not considered people ...
        1. cniza 27 February 2020 11: 55 New
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          And when did they count them as people?
          1. orionvitt 27 February 2020 14: 07 New
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            And when did they count them as people?

            And when did the Yankees consider anyone to be people?
            1. cniza 27 February 2020 14: 12 New
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              They consider themselves exceptional, and soon all of them will be excluded ...
      2. Zoldat_A 27 February 2020 13: 07 New
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        Quote: Azazelo
        Where where are the human rights hamsters ???

        Quote: PSih2097
        And they don’t get paid for it, that’s not them ...

        For the sake of a good cause, I would pay our hamsters, human rights activists from the budget of the Russian Federation. And to ask Roman Arkadyevitch to throw them a piece of bread is a completely holy thing.
  7. fighter angel 27 February 2020 11: 42 New
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    So rise up, proud sons of Vinnitu, Osceola and Montezuma!
    Stop drinking fire water.
    Dig the tomahawk of war.
    Go on the warpath, and let the pale-faced tremble.
    Their scalps will soon adorn the wigwams of worthy warriors ...
    The Amerse evil empire must be destroyed!
    1. cniza 27 February 2020 11: 54 New
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      You will be subject to US sanctions ... lol
      1. fighter angel 27 February 2020 12: 00 New
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        "... you will be subject to US sanctions ..."

        Let them announce, I will consider it an honor!
      2. Zoldat_A 27 February 2020 13: 11 New
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        You will be subject to US sanctions ... lol

        But the whole is not yet under sanctions?
        Announce - celebrate! drinks
        1. cniza 27 February 2020 13: 34 New
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          It seems there are no times F-35 advertise. drinks
        2. Paranoid50 27 February 2020 16: 43 New
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          Quote: Zoldat_A
          IN WHOLESALE NOT UNDER SANCTIONS?

          This cannot be, because it can never be.(c) Discard the entire errand of the Israeli (and not only) party, plus those who are on the salary of the adversary - so less than half will remain. yes laughing
    2. dauria 27 February 2020 13: 16 New
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      So rise up, proud sons of Vinnitu, Osceola and Montezuma!
      Stop drinking fire water.


      And what belay ? They will take away citizenship, benefits, will they have to transfer from a jeep to a horse, and instead of an iPhone and medical insurance - to figs? . And what for then they will need an independent piece of their desert.
      Again - Trump will move his “Wall” to the north, and the proud Osceols will have to climb through it with the Mexicans through it. belay
  8. Sergej1972 27 February 2020 11: 47 New
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    In 1937, UNESCO did not yet exist.
  9. Nychego 27 February 2020 11: 47 New
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    locals receive “decent compensation”

    Compensation will be consumed faster than the ecosystem is restored, and with a fatal level of intervention, changes can become irreversible.
    1. cniza 27 February 2020 11: 53 New
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      Quote: Nychego
      and with a fatal level of intervention, changes can become irreversible.


      Especially in the desert ...
    2. orionvitt 27 February 2020 14: 05 New
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      Eat Compensation Faster Than Ecosystem Restores

      If only anyone ever saw her, especially under the American financial system. The transferred money (if they are allocated in terms of compensation) will go to the accounts of some charitable foundations, where they are safe, will be scrolled by bank dealers for years. Well, "money must make money." On the one hand, finances are allocated, on the other hand, they even “work”, but not in reality, but in the banking virtual.
  10. cniza 27 February 2020 11: 53 New
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    Trump supporters called this letter from an Indian tribe “a provocation of the Democratic Party” and added that local residents receive “worthy compensation”.


    Nothing changes ...
    1. Zoldat_A 27 February 2020 13: 13 New
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      Trump supporters called this letter from an Indian tribe “a provocation of the Democratic Party” and added that local residents receive “worthy compensation”.


      Nothing changes ...

      I am surprised that this is not a "provocation of Russia." And the whole tribe is our agents. Led by the leader - KGB colonel. laughing
      1. cniza 27 February 2020 13: 37 New
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        Definitely, they are already tearing the roof off Russia ...
  11. Ham
    Ham 27 February 2020 11: 54 New
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    and where are the dudes with the placards - "we are all quietly about. oham!"?
  12. cloud catcher 27 February 2020 12: 00 New
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    The Indians of North America, at one time brutally driven away by the European colonialists from their native lands, have been forced to inhabit reservations for generations. Indians pay federal taxes, like the rest of the US. Reservations cannot enter into official relations with other states (this is the prerogative of the federal government), declare war and issue money.

    And why not raise a question not only about cacti, but also about reservations at the UN forum on indigenous issues?
    1. orionvitt 27 February 2020 13: 57 New
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      Quote: Cloud Catcher
      at the UN Indigenous Forum?
      enter into official relations with other states to declare war and issue money.

      Very controversial issue. Such flirting on the national question led to the collapse of the USSR. True, the position of the national republics in the Soviet Union was much better than in Russia itself and the fact that someone was constantly dissatisfied Only the last dumbasses may not understand that power is in unity, and not in disunity. However, what is happening there in the United States does not bother me much. Whatever bad happens there, we (and the whole world) are only at hand. If the states are mired in their problems, the whole normal world will breathe more freely.
    2. Avior 27 February 2020 23: 13 New
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      definitely pay. like all the others.
      And reservations have state rights.
      In total, there are about 300 reservations in the USA, but not every of the 550 officially recognized tribes has its own reservation - some tribes have several reserves, some do not have any.

      The largest in area is the Navajo Nation, a reservation of the Navajo people (about 64,7 thousand km²), however there are reservations whose territories do not exceed 50 km². In total, the Indians control 225,4 thousand km² of US territory, which is 2,3% of the entire country (9 km²). 629 reservations are larger than Rhode Island (091 km²), and 12 are larger than Delaware (3144 km²).

      The U.S. government recognizes tribal self-government. Tribes living on reserves have the right to form their own government, to formulate and enforce laws, to establish taxes, to grant citizenship to a tribe, to license and regulate almost all types of activities. In a legal sense, Native American reservations have rights that the US states have. Like the states, they cannot enter into official relations with other states (this is the prerogative of the federal government), declare war and issue money.

      The reservations are subject to both federal laws and laws established by the tribes themselves. State laws in most cases are not valid on the reservation. In most reservations, tribal courts and law enforcement agencies are active.

      Indians pay federal taxes, like the rest of the US. Residents of reservations do not pay state income tax if the source of their income is on the reservation and property tax is on the reservation.

      Reservations establish their own rules for owning land: in 140 of them, all land is the collective property of the tribe, in the rest - private individuals are the owners. Gambling is permitted on a number of states on Indian Reserves.

      hi
  13. Mwg
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    Thirst is nothing, gesheft is everything
  14. 75 Sergey 27 February 2020 12: 07 New
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    Since the 20s of the last century, Indians do not sit badly on the neck of the United States
    1. orionvitt 27 February 2020 13: 42 New
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      Only the last fifteen years, in the USA it is more profitable to be anyone, but not white. And preferably black. To indigenous peoples and Latinos, political correctness has not yet reached.
  15. Gardamir 27 February 2020 12: 27 New
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    A provocation of the Democratic Party? How familiar this is. If you criticize the Kremlin, then immediately the State Department official, Bandera and liberalist in one bottle.
  16. Lord of the Sith 27 February 2020 12: 32 New
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    Problems Indians pale-faced Yankees are not interested.
    Already 400 years.
  17. sergo1914 27 February 2020 12: 40 New
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    The key word here is tequila.
    1. g1washntwn 27 February 2020 12: 55 New
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      These are not kosher cacti.
      1. Zoldat_A 27 February 2020 13: 19 New
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        Quote: sergo1914
        The key word here is tequila.

        Quote: g1washntwn
        These are not kosher cacti.

        White America replaces kosher tequila for redskins with kosher heroin. So the redskins die out faster.
        The occupation of Afghanistan by US troops and their NATO allies led to an astronomical increase in drug trafficking. According to the UN from 2001 to 2006, that is, for five years, this growth was 3200%! There is no mistake. This figure is contained in the UN report.
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      Not every cactus can make tequila. Only from blue aqua.
      1. sergo1914 27 February 2020 21: 15 New
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        Quote: ANB
        Not every cactus can make tequila. Only from blue aqua.



        Have you seen the alcohol rows in Russian hypermarkets?
        1. ANB
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          Of course I did. I don’t know if there are so many cacti in Mexico :)
          But real tequila still comes across.
          PS. He printed "from blue agave." How was the “k” framed?
          1. sergo1914 28 February 2020 07: 19 New
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            Quote: ANB
            He printed "from blue agave." How was the “k” framed?


            State Department. Their tricks.
  18. Klingon 27 February 2020 13: 26 New
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    Quote: Barmaleyka
    Sheriff Indians are not interested

    Traditionally, I would say. A nation that grew up on the genocide of Indians, in principle, can not take into account their interests.

    There used to be two opposing art forms.
    Goiko Mitich - good, honest, fair Indians and vile, greedy whites.
    Fenimore Cooper - kind, gullible, peaceful, hard-working white settlers and angry, cruel, treacherous redskins.
    I don’t know how it is about the Goiko Mitich Indians, but Fenimore Cooper was clearly lying about the white settlers - it’s enough to remember that it was not the Indians who came up with the scalps to shoot. Fenimore Cooper has no gu-gu ...

    Goyko Mitich steers! I and the boys at one time 5 times went to films with his participation .. in the Officers House in Grozny. the session was worth 10 cents wink before the session they played clicked, checking the mysterious numbers on the tickets
  19. Klingon 27 February 2020 13: 32 New
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    Quote: Cloud Catcher
    The Indians of North America, at one time brutally driven away by the European colonialists from their native lands, have been forced to inhabit reservations for generations. Indians pay federal taxes, like the rest of the US. Reservations cannot enter into official relations with other states (this is the prerogative of the federal government), declare war and issue money.

    And why not raise a question not only about cacti, but also about reservations at the UN forum on indigenous issues?

    you forget that the NOU is a completely controlled strip organization, it’s understandable why the TAM office is also time to dissolve this organization since the sense of their meetings is 0. Unless the platform is to scream to the whole world that Russia is to blame for all sins
  20. orionvitt 27 February 2020 13: 37 New
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    called this letter of the Indian tribe "a provocation of the Democratic Party"
    How so, without Russia and Putin? Listening and reading the statements of American politicians and the media, I wondered why Russia has not yet been blamed for all the troubles of the American Indians. Well, now it starts. laughing
  21. Incvizitor 27 February 2020 13: 38 New
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    There are a lot of dissatisfied, you need to support all this, warm up well. World cancer does not resolve itself.