Case MH17: Ukraine regrets transferring Vladimir Zemakh to Russia

Yelena Zerkal, who previously held the post of deputy head of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Ukraine, believes that the former DPR soldier Volodymyr Tsemakh was transferred to Russia prematurely as part of the exchange. She believes that he could be useful in investigating the crash of the Malaysian Boeing in the Donbass in the summer of 2014.

About this ex-deputy Foreign Minister Elena Zerkal said in an interview with the Ukrainian publication "European Truth", which was published on February 25.

The former official considers Zemakh a defendant in the MH17 case, so her transfer to Russia, in her opinion, was unacceptable. Mirror claims that this will negatively affect the investigation:

I do not agree with the opinion that Zemakh was an unhelpful witness.

According to the former deputy foreign minister of Ukraine, it is entirely possible that the court will prove Russia's involvement in the plane crash over the Donbass. She states that the order to destroy the passenger plane could have been issued by the Russian leadership. The mirror does not exclude that even Russian President Vladimir Putin will be involved in the process.

Volodymyr Tsemakh, who commanded an air defense company in the city of Snezhnoye (DPR) in 2014, was abducted by Ukrainian intelligence officers last summer and secretly taken from the territory of the DPR to Ukraine. In September 2019, he was transferred to Russia as part of an exchange according to the “35 by 35” formula.

Later, the former air defense commander was offered Dutch citizenship in exchange for testimony against Russia.

Last December, Zemakh filed a lawsuit against Ukraine and the Netherlands before the European Court of Human Rights, but was rejected.

Comments

[Alexga]

Pancake! As they already lifted up with their unfinished. As if there were no other topics!

[Thrall]

Quote: AlexGa

As if there were no other topics!

Civil war does not pass quickly ...

[Alexga]

With current affairs, they have this mess for many, many years to come.

[cniza]

And whoever will correct their brains, they themselves will never ...

[Thrall]

Quote: cniza

And whoever will correct their brains, they themselves will never ...

Surkov on this occasion clearly expressed himself in his last interview about Ukraine.
If true, of course:

Coercion by force to fraternal relations is the only method that has historically proven effectiveness in the Ukrainian direction. I don’t think that any other will be invented

[Alien From]

The wet dreams of this lady have long become a byword ....

[Thrall]

Quote: Alien From

The wet dreams of this lady have long become a byword ....

The lady interestingly went on a career with Pan Zelensky

[Pete mitchell]

Quote: Alien From

The wet dreams of this lady have long become a byword ....

I must admit that the lady is a trained enemy, sadly in demand among the 404s.
And it still amused me -

Interview to the Ukrainian publication “European Truth”

- mutual exclusions ...

[Alien From]

Unfortunately, I agree with you, Russophibia has become a trend .... but only the world has never seen such a thing! Wake up, let it be late!

[Pete mitchell]

Quote: Alien From

Russophibia has become a trend .... but only the world has never seen such a thing! Wake up, let it be late!

The hangover will be tough. All this newborn democracies there is nothing more to offer: economies are ripped off, independence is only on paper, prospects are minimum, but you want to eat ... Take into account that the Americans have long courted the elites, God forgive me, these countries are a result in person: they are dancing on their site, under alien pipe

[cniza]

The mirror does not exclude that even Russian President Vladimir Putin will be involved in the process.

Why, there, I pressed the button ... completely survived from the brains ...

[Thrall]

Quote: cniza

he pressed the button ... completely survived from the brains ...

At the button of a hypersonic laser brain burner. And aiming at the brain of Mrs. Mirror

[cniza]

Well, yes, almost half of Ukraine seems to have hit ...

[Siberian]

Quote: Thrall

At the button of a hypersonic laser brain burner. And aiming at the brain of Mrs. Mirror

And apparently, got.

[svp67]

Quote: Thrall

And aiming at the brain of Mrs. Mirror

You shouldn’t be so. Mrs. Elena the opponent is serious, smart, infection.

[orionvitt]

Quote: svp67

smart, infection

Repeat Ukrainian mantras, is it your mind? Surround yourself. Zemakh was stolen, interrogated, understood what was happening (the matter is sensational) and quickly sipped in Russia, so that, God forbid, would not have blundered too much, especially to investigators from the Netherlands. Now all that remains is to shout retroactively. I do not understand their desire to prove something. Ukrainian politics is pure and transparent as crystal. All the tricks of Ukraine, nothing but laughter.

[Olgovich]

Quote: cniza

Mirrorsl does not exclude the possibility that even Russian President Vladimir Putin will be involved in the process.

Why, there, I pressed the button ... completely survived from the brains ...

Let him say, WHY Russia (Putin) is ?!

[cniza]

You ask very difficult questions and then it is classified ...

[major147]

Quote: Olgovich

Let him say, WHY Russia (Putin) is ?!

But not important !!!!

[rocket757]

Sick people .... jumps do not go for nothing, even a pot on the "kumpol" will not preserve what is no longer there.

[Ham]

wet dream of dill - someone must do everything for them ...

[knn54]

Isaac, I gave a blunder.
Is he your boss?

[Vasyan1971]

Quote: knn54

Isaac, I gave a blunder.
Is he your boss?

- Dala? What's with Deribasovskaya?
- No. I lost my wallet ...
“You better give Mahu!”

[Vasyan1971]

I do not agree with the opinion that Zemakh was an unhelpful witness.

And what?

[Crimean partisan 1974]

Vladimir Tzemakh, who commanded an air defense company in 2014 ...... laughter and just someone will explain what an air defense company is ?????

[Horon]

A couple of MANPADS and now this unit can be called an air defense unit in conditions when there was no normal air defense at all. (Most likely it was) At that time they (DPR, LPR) rejoiced at any air defense systems and could call any unit that could withstand air strikes at least somehow.

[Crimean partisan 1974]

A couple of MANPADS ... well, the calculation of MANPADS does not seem to pull the company, and the mouth in the air defense is simply not and cannot be

[Horon]

Do not try to seriously evaluate the name "Air Defense Company", this name came up only on the basis of the possibility of this unit to snap in the direction of aviation. No more.

[Crimean partisan 1974]

Do not try to seriously evaluate the name "Air Defense Company", ..... how can you not try ?? we are talking about a certain company commander which. according to some stoned, he commanded the BUK air defense system, and this
- the installation itself with ammunition
- a complex of detection and tracking of targets,
-control center
-repair base and maintenance
-fighting guard
that is, everything is very serious. not seriously one thing, what kind of air defense company?

[Horon]

a company commander who. according to some stubborncommanded by the SAM BUK

Do you want to convince those that in air defense there are no such units as an air defense company? They do not care! It is enough for them that the militia shot down some aircraft at that time, which means they had air defense. Further: since there was an air defense, it means they are guilty and it does not matter that the militia had only short-range air defense, and it doesn’t matter that the militia themselves were ready to classify any air defense unit that could potentially resist aviation. That's why they are obstinate that common sense is not important to them, the main thing is to find an argument in their favor.

[Crimean partisan 1974]

that common sense is not important to them, the main thing is to find an argument in their favor ....

[major147]

Quote: Crimean partisan 1974

this is another nonsense

And if Tsemakh "spoke properly", he could tell with which finger "Putin was pressing the button." However, Mrs. Zerkal could tell how "she personally pressed the button" if "talked" to her appropriately!

[Crimean partisan 1974]

And if you "talk properly" with Tsemakh, ....... well, there are two reasons for "talking with addiction" for work hardening and for deducing the truth, for example, preparations based on lezergic acid are quite suitable for the truth, another thing, but on What witnesses, if everything is clear, 1, the Russian troops were never found,
2. the rebel air defense simply did not have, and not because it was not possible to overcome the air defense complex. but because it was necessary to maintain it and have specialists of which the DNR fighters simply did not have a priori, only the MANPADS calculations and a couple of self-propelled Arrows,
3 main thing ---- what is an air defense company ???

[major147]

Quote: Crimean partisan 1974

And if you "talk properly" with Tsemakh, ....... well, there are two reasons for "talking with addiction" for work hardening and for deducing the truth, for example, preparations based on lezergic acid are quite suitable for the truth, another thing, but on What witnesses, if everything is clear, 1, the Russian troops were never found,
2. the rebel air defense simply did not have, and not because it was not possible to overcome the air defense complex. but because it was necessary to maintain it and have specialists of which the DNR fighters simply did not have a priori, only the MANPADS calculations and a couple of self-propelled Arrows,
3 main thing ---- what is an air defense company ???

All of the above "they are there" is not important. They already know the truth, but their task is different, to put before the “public” a “witness” with the evidence they need “there”.

[Crimean partisan 1974]

All of the above "they are there" does not matter .. well, if it doesn’t matter, then it’s not, that is, the air defense company does not know what STE is, so there’s no body. there is only the junta battery of air defense missile systems and EVERYTHING

[orionvitt]

Quote: major147

Mrs. Zerkal could tell how "she personally pressed the button" if she was "talked to" appropriately!

If you talk seriously with the button, then she admits that she pressed herself. True, by order from Moscow. I suspect that it will be so. It remains only to find the button. However, in Western courts and in Ukraine, any version against Russia will give a ride, even the most absurd. So, no laughing matter.

[Crimean partisan 1974]

... It remains only to find the button. .... as a question from the CHIEF BANDIT from the movie "The Adventures of Electronics" ....

[aszzz888]

major147 Yesterday, 11:14
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Quote: Crimean partisan 1974
this is another nonsense

And if you "talk to Tsemakh as a traceem ", he could tell with which finger" Putin pressed the button. "However, Mrs. Zerkal could also tell how" she personally pressed the button "if she was" talked "to her accordingly!

Hello. Not so long ago on TV, it seems on the Center. the channel was shown a report with Zemakh. If you have time, delve into the internet, a very interesting interview!

[Crimean partisan 1974]

by Center. the channel was shown a report with Tsemakh .... I didn’t see or hear anything stupid, I didn’t hear, idle talk, but the BUKashka rocket from Khmelnitsky who respected Boeing is a fact, and the disappeared dispatcher who fought Boeing is a fact. and launching a rocket in the zone controlled by the APU is a fact, and you can talk with a drunk very simply, just like you can appeal a rebuttal .... shorter than the chatter and no more, it’s on the chatter that the idlers live. Uncle Sam ordered. so that all the hollyand remains between their bread rolls to feel errection due to a large puddle-THIS FACT, and what is not disputed

[Retvizan 8]

... "She claims that the order to destroy the passenger plane could have been given by the Russian leadership" ...
Another victim of the "Rotting Revolution"!
I would like to ask: "Stupid creature, tell me - why did the Russian leadership need this? Like such" bloodthirsty ", for the sake of entertainment?

[Narcolog]

"For some time now I have found the answer to this question. And do you know which one? PATAMUSHTA" (c) This is Mordor. Do not feed bread - just let the plane shoot down. Just like that, for no purpose.

[major147]

Quote: Retvizan 8

... "She claims that the order to destroy the passenger plane could have been given by the Russian leadership" ...
Another victim of the "Rotting Revolution"!
I would like to ask: "Stupid creature, tell me - why did the Russian leadership need this? Like such" bloodthirsty ", for the sake of entertainment?

Here another mock lurked: "In the opinion of the ex-Deputy Foreign Minister of Ukraine, it is quite possible that the court will prove Russia's involvement in the plane crash over Donbass." What do you mean "maybe" !!! ???? She still doubts, "separatist" !!!!!!

[URAL72]

Affftor! Even at the beginning of the war, we did not have an air defense company. There were divisions, batteries and a platoon. Laughing at a run over Putin. Complete maidanuta fool.

[Retvizan 8]

... "In the opinion of the ex-Deputy Foreign Minister of Ukraine, it is quite possible that the court will prove Russia's involvement" ...
I hope the time will come when all the criminals who came to power in Ukraine through the illegal state. the coup and drowned Ukraine in blood, Parashenka, Turchinov, Yarosh, Mirror and the like will be judged and forced to answer for their crimes !!!

[Retvizan 8]

The mirror raves once again, otherwise you can’t name her talk.
Tsemakh spent quite a long time in the dungeons of the Ukrainian Gestapo, and if he knew at least something he would have been "split", the only thing he could do was to incriminate himself, unable to withstand the abuse of the SBU, I think that's why ours insisted on his exchange.

[Horon]

Last December, Zemakh filed a lawsuit against Ukraine and the Netherlands before the European Court of Human Rights, but was rejected.

European "justice" in action!

[prior]

Search a woman.
Instead of fictitious culprits, it is better to look for the Dnepropetrovsk air traffic controller who drove the miserable Boeing to the place of his death.
Where did the cunning manager come across?

[mikstepanenko]

Look for a woman. Where did the dispatcher cunningly find?
It is unlikely that this woman can be found. The next day, she suddenly "went on vacation" and no one ever saw her again.

[Lelek]

According to the former deputy foreign minister of Ukraine, it is entirely possible that the court will prove Russia's involvement in the plane crash over the Donbass.

Well, yes, a little more, even a chainsaw on his knees and he would admit that he personally launched a rocket with a small nuclear charge on the liner. To what hatred for neighbors and love for money brings Svidomo in the former Ukraine. It is not just that the ratings of the hetman and the "ukroveche" of the population of the Ruins are falling.