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The commander of the Navy complained about the strengthening of the Black Sea Fleet of Russia

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The commander of the Navy complained about the strengthening of the Black Sea Fleet of Russia

Admiral Igor Voronchenko, who is the commander of the Naval Forces of Ukraine, complained about a significant increase in the combat potential of the Black Sea fleet Of Russia. He stated this at the Age of Crimea forum.


Addressing the audience, Voronchenko said that over the past six years, Russia has significantly increased its combat potential in the Black Sea, while Ukraine has only one ship left - the frigate Getman Sagaidachny, and that one has been in the process of modernization and repair for a long time. According to him, the Navy urgently needs ships to oppose Russia and its plans in the Black and Azov Seas, "there are still sailors and naval officers."

Voronchenko sees the way out in completing the corvette of project 58250 Vladimir the Great, the construction of which was started on May 17, 2011, but has not progressed due to lack of money and the corresponding capacity for construction.

At the same time, Russia is building ships and re-equipping the Black Sea Fleet, he noted.

In almost six years, Russia has rearmament of the entire ship. Instead of 29 ships - 42, of which 12 are rocket carriers weapons. The total salvo today by Caliber missiles is 72 launches, and if you count both the Caspian Flotilla and the coastal component - the Bastion and Ball complexes - then it is about 120 missiles

- said the admiral.

The commander of the Navy also noted the underwater component of the Black Sea Fleet, saying that Russia deployed seven submarines in the region, six of which, according to him, are “modern and very effective.”

At the end of the speech, Voronchenko emphasized that without new ships “he has nothing to resist” the “aggression of Russia”:

Without ships, I'm sorry, I can’t do anything, with one Sagaidachny, which is currently under modernization
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  1. Azazelo
    Azazelo 27 February 2020 09: 04
    +6
    Give money ... well, give .... well, give money .... otherwise it’s like .... the aggressor .... give money ...
    This is not a military - this is a BSO swamp
    1. Spambox
      Spambox 27 February 2020 09: 10
      +4
      Why are you laughing then? Ali forgot how our officers asked for money 20 years ago? There was no fuel, the equipment was old, the salaries were scanty. The prestige of the profession was at 0, the checkpoint went out and the uniform was removed. Ukraine will have to recover for a long time after their "Reforms" and Maidans
      1. Lopatov
        Lopatov 27 February 2020 09: 23
        +9
        Quote: Spambox
        Why are you laughing? Ali forgot how our officers also asked for money 20 years ago? There was no grief, the equipment was old, the salaries were scanty. The prestige of the profession was at 0, they went beyond the checkpoint and took off their uniforms.

        Key phrase "20 years ago".
        And the Ukrainian army has been in this position since its inception. Because the permanent election process, Maidan and other policies.
        And no one wants to strengthen an army that can compete with oligarch groups. So they are kept in a black body. Even despite the "war with the aggressor country"
        At one time under Yushchenko they den. contentment was cut, as I recall a quarter. Officially ... We didn’t have such a thing even under Yeltsin.
        1. svp67
          svp67 27 February 2020 13: 12
          +3
          Quote: Spade
          Key phrase "20 years ago".
          And the Ukrainian army has been in this position since its inception. Because the permanent election process, Maidan and other policies.

          And in Kerch, there’s something else on the way ...
          1. Astra wild
            Astra wild 27 February 2020 19: 49
            +3
            Sergey, and you’re not ashamed to tease independent people - little children. They believed in the children that in the EEC for each milk river in the sweet and sour banks.
            Their commander complains that the Russians have many ships, and you are still the first one down the drain. Still sobbing
      2. smart ass
        smart ass 27 February 2020 09: 31
        +10
        For the fact that it ended gdp special thanks
      3. RideMaster
        RideMaster 27 February 2020 09: 34
        +3
        Do you want Ukraine to recover?
        There are a lot of bad-thinking people. Do you need a strong Russophobian state at hand?
      4. Olgovich
        Olgovich 27 February 2020 10: 08
        +2
        Quote: Spambox
        the technique is old,

        и
        with one "Sagaidachny", which is now undergoing modernization

        on ETERNAL modernization ...

        And good! yes
      5. venik
        venik 27 February 2020 15: 40
        0
        Quote: Spambox
        Why are you laughing? Ali forgot how our officers also asked for money 20 years ago?

        =======
        Sorry, Anton! And you do not accidentally "behind the times"That way for 20 - 25 years ??? And even more ...
        Let's remember, THAT WAS 300 years ago ....... Va-a-if - "tin"! Under Anna Ioanovna, and va-ah-ah-shche, the Peter's fleet rotted at the berths ..... Why not an "analogy" for you ??? Let's "remember" this too ... fool
    2. smart ass
      smart ass 27 February 2020 09: 28
      +6
      All right one ship one admiral all over the state))))
      1. mikstepanenko
        mikstepanenko 27 February 2020 12: 09
        +3
        All right one ship one admiral all over the state))))

        Poor staffing. The ship is one, but the admirals already thirteen pieces.
        Team Management Admira
        First interlocutor of the team vіtse-admіral
        Chief of Staff - the first patron of the team v_tse-admiral
        The commander of the team of the protesters of the defense - the head of the administration of the protagonists of the defense of the major general
        Team guardian of the combat preparation - the head of the combat training administration
        vice-admiral
        Head Ozbroєnnya Rear Admir
        The head of Tilu is the rear admiral, major general
        The commander of the coastline defense is the head of the department of the coastline and territory defense of major general
        Head of Academy Vіs'kovo-Morskih Forces Іmenі PS. S.Nakhimova Vіtse-admiral
        The first intercessor of the Chief of Staff, Major-General, Rear Admiral
        Chief of Operations - Patron of the Chief of Staff Headquarters Admiral
        The head of the special warehouse management is the intercessor of the chief of staff, the rear admiral
        The head of the control of surface and rear forces rear-admiral
    3. TermNachTer
      TermNachTer 27 February 2020 19: 12
      -1
      And besides, he is an admiral, and a general. What can one corvette change in the Black Sea?
  2. Lord of the Sith
    Lord of the Sith 27 February 2020 09: 08
    +6
    Complained? laughing

    Not sts, the Russian soldier of children and fools does not offend))
  3. Lopatov
    Lopatov 27 February 2020 09: 12
    +14
    corvette project 58250 "Vladimir the Great"

    Was Putin named after? Well done.
    laughing laughing laughing
    Now he is simply obliged to help finish the ship ...
    1. Kot_Kuzya
      Kot_Kuzya 27 February 2020 09: 15
      +3
      So Putin is God for Maydaunov. Everything that is done in Ukraine - happens only with his knowledge
      1. Terenin
        Terenin 27 February 2020 09: 26
        +4
        ... Voronenchenko: Without ships, sorry, I can't do anything, with one "Sagaidachny", which is now being upgraded
        Well why nothing winked Here are similar explanations
        In almost six years, Russia has re-equipped the entire ship structure. Instead of 29 ships - 42, of which 12 are carriers of missile weapons. The total salvo of Kalibr missiles today is 72 launches, and if we count both the Caspian Flotilla and the coastal component - the Bastion and Bal complexes, it amounts to about 120 missiles
        you help your own and NATO naval commanders, with the next "decisive" breakthrough in the Black Sea, to keep ready reports of dismissal ... yes
    2. sivuch
      sivuch 27 February 2020 09: 17
      +3
      of course . Otherwise, the Black Sea Fleet will be left without targets.
    3. major147
      major147 27 February 2020 11: 01
      0
      Quote: Spade
      corvette project 58250 "Vladimir the Great"

      Was Putin named after? Well done.
      laughing laughing laughing
      Now he is simply obliged to help finish the ship ...

      What are the tricks !!! No.
  4. Andrey VOV
    Andrey VOV 27 February 2020 09: 13
    +2
    Yeah, Sagaidachny doesn’t drown just because it’s dirty with seagulls, and IT doesn’t sink, as you know ... and it's cool to be an admiral without a fleet))
    1. Egoza
      Egoza 27 February 2020 09: 35
      +3
      Quote: Andrey VOV
      it’s probably cool to be an admiral without a fleet))

      the main thing is that the salary is paid. And, he has already "washed his hands." How did the hero say in the old film? "The most important thing in the profession of a thief is to get away in time"
  5. Dart2027
    Dart2027 27 February 2020 09: 14
    +9
    - Rabinovich! I heard you read anti-Semitic newspapers!
    - Well, yes, I read.
    - How can you! You are a Jew!
    - And it’s very simple. At first I read Jewish newspapers. There is such a depression, I tell you! Everyone wants to exterminate the Jews, all around anti-Semitism, oppression, problems, everyone cries ... I literally could not sleep! And now I read the anti-Semitic press - and what do you think? Solid positive! Jews rule the world, they captured everything, they are the richest, they decide everything everywhere!
  6. Hto tama
    Hto tama 27 February 2020 09: 14
    +6
    * According to him, the Navy urgently needs ships to resist Russia and its plans in the Black and Azov Seas, "while there are still sailors and naval officers *
    I didn’t understand something about the reason for this pan, such decadent moods. what belay in the opinion of a rather large number of admirals that are not a tanker, then an admiral wassat
    1. major147
      major147 27 February 2020 11: 03
      +4
      Quote: Hto tama
      "there are still sailors and naval officers *

      "Ukrainian sailors" are like "Brazilian hockey players"!
    2. mikstepanenko
      mikstepanenko 27 February 2020 12: 13
      -3
      Team Management Admira
      First interlocutor of the team vіtse-admіral
      Chief of Staff - the first patron of the team v_tse-admiral
      The commander of the team of the protesters of the defense - the head of the administration of the protagonists of the defense of the major general
      Team guardian of the combat preparation - the head of the combat training administration
      vice-admiral
      Head Ozbroєnnya Rear Admir
      The head of Tilu is the rear admiral, major general
      The commander of the coastline defense is the head of the department of the coastline and territory defense of major general
      Head of Academy Vіs'kovo-Morskih Forces Іmenі PS. S.Nakhimova Vіtse-admiral
      The first intercessor of the Chief of Staff, Major-General, Rear Admiral
      Chief of Operations - Patron of the Chief of Staff Headquarters Admiral
      The head of the special warehouse management is the intercessor of the chief of staff, the rear admiral
      The head of the control of surface and rear forces rear-admiral
    3. orionvitt
      orionvitt 27 February 2020 15: 10
      +3
      Yes, sailors and naval officers without a navy, that's strength. There are pilots without planes, the government of Crimea without Crimea, and soon there will be more tankers without tanks. Believe it or not, there is even a "space agency" in Ukraine, though without space.
  7. Ratmir_Ryazan
    Ratmir_Ryazan 27 February 2020 09: 16
    +4
    Admiral of the Ukrainian fleet, consisting of one ship))).

    It is simply amazing how Ukraine, having so many resources, has not been able to build a single corvette-level ship in 30 years of its "independence". Even some seedy one.

    I would have crashed in the place of the Ukrainian authorities, but I built 3-4 corvettes.

    I imagine how ashamed the sailors of Ukraine at a joint exercise with NATO, sail on their river boats next to frigates and destroyers.
    1. cniza
      cniza 27 February 2020 09: 20
      +6
      Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan
      Admiral of the Ukrainian fleet, consisting of one ship))).



      Yeah, and that tankman ...
  8. cniza
    cniza 27 February 2020 09: 19
    +6
    Without ships, I'm sorry, I can’t do anything, with one Sagaidachny, which is currently under modernization


    You don’t have to do anything, sit upright ...
    1. rocket757
      rocket757 27 February 2020 09: 27
      +1
      The main thing is that Schaub the lateworks were not pulled away on their own pelvis.
      1. cniza
        cniza 27 February 2020 09: 28
        +5
        Late to warn, everyone has already been stolen.
  9. knn54
    knn54 27 February 2020 09: 22
    +1
    It's time to build seagulls. There are boarding teams. Almost invisible to radars. Inexpensive. Alas, but for "cutting" is not suitable. I'm afraid that the whole timber has already been sold.
  10. Astra wild
    Astra wild 27 February 2020 09: 23
    +6
    "Without ships, I'm sorry, I can't do anything, with one" Sagaidachny "which is now being upgraded", but what about the American decommissioned boats?
    I have pots with pokotsanoy enamel, I wanted to offer him. What do you think will agree?
    1. Kurare
      Kurare 27 February 2020 10: 35
      0
      Quote: Astra wild
      ... what about the American decommissioned boats?

      He doesn't even take the Islands into account. After all, they, too, like "Skakunachny", were put on modernization. So, "this song is simple, start over."
    2. major147
      major147 27 February 2020 11: 04
      +3
      Quote: Astra wild
      I have pots with pokotsanoy enamel, I wanted to offer him. What do you think will agree?

      For free !? And then !!! fellow
  11. Dym71
    Dym71 27 February 2020 09: 24
    +4
    Sorry, I can’t do anything without ships.

    With ships and dunce can, dare the tanks Pan Admiral yes
    1. 210ox
      210ox 27 February 2020 09: 32
      +3
      By the way, an interesting Soviet project. To strike in Turkey
  12. oldzek
    oldzek 27 February 2020 09: 24
    -1
    here is quite a quote from the CF about Maxim: "you can complain, you can complain, you can complain ..."
  13. Alexga
    Alexga 27 February 2020 09: 25
    +1
    According to him, the Ukrainian Navy urgently needs ships to resist Russia and its plans in the Black and Azov seas, "while there are still sailors and naval officers."

    And there is, for sure or for now ???
  14. rocket757
    rocket757 27 February 2020 09: 26
    +1
    The commander of the Navy complained about the strengthening of the Black Sea Fleet of Russia

    Why such a commander who complains? He must raise the morale of the army and the people, it’s such a pooh!
    In short, p-fe.
  15. antivirus
    antivirus 27 February 2020 09: 31
    +1
    I want to cry .. for illness
  16. Amateur
    Amateur 27 February 2020 09: 31
    +1
    What is he complaining about? They also recently planted 2 coastal defense battleships from their American brokers and promised 3 more. And the Gutroshenkovskaya smithy rivets dreadnoughts "like sausages." The Chinese will soon envy the outskirts. fool
    1. major147
      major147 27 February 2020 11: 06
      0
      Quote: Amateur
      And the Gutroshenkovskaya smithy rivets dreadnoughts "like sausages."

      So if they are not welded to the pier, they will drown right away!
  17. Ham
    Ham 27 February 2020 09: 48
    +1
    if you want to ruin the country - give her a cruiser
    1. Vasyan1971
      Vasyan1971 27 February 2020 09: 59
      0
      Quote: Ham
      if you want to ruin the country - give her a cruiser

      In this case, the corvette is enough.
  18. Vasyan1971
    Vasyan1971 27 February 2020 09: 58
    0
    Admiral Igor Voronchenko, who is the commander of the Ukrainian Navy, complained about a significant increase in the combat potential of the Russian Black Sea Fleet.

    And what else is left for him?
    while Ukraine has only one ship left - the frigate "Getman Sagaidachny"

    "Remained" is a very strong word.
  19. IC
    IC 27 February 2020 10: 01
    -4
    It’s in vain to be sad. But there are 13 admirals and generals.
    There is international support. One missile salvo destroyer US more than 72.
  20. Ros 56
    Ros 56 27 February 2020 12: 14
    0
    With the same success, this trickster could complain about the sunrise or sunset, the flow of water in the river, the wind, etc. I never thought that you could reach this level. The people in the eyes turns into monkeys.
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  22. Victor March 47
    Victor March 47 27 February 2020 12: 26
    +1
    Quote: Vasyan1971
    Quote: Ham
    if you want to ruin the country - give her a cruiser

    In this case, the corvette is enough.

    You are mistaken. You can get by with a much cheaper method - appoint a tanker fleet commander with brains inverted.
  23. pafegosoff
    pafegosoff 27 February 2020 13: 22
    0
    Admiral lacks tanks in the Ukrainian fleet. In general, a submarine in the steppes of Ukraine.
  24. Viktor Sergeev
    Viktor Sergeev 27 February 2020 13: 47
    +1
    Admiral, without a fleet. Discharged buffoon with the same prezik.
  25. ficus2003
    ficus2003 27 February 2020 16: 37
    0
    This is the Ukrainian world and its real possibilities when it is as independent as possible from Russia.
  26. Astra wild
    Astra wild 27 February 2020 19: 52
    +1
    Quote: Clever man
    All right one ship one admiral all over the state))))

    But what about the boats that the Americans give, will be left without admirals, or do they still have 10 pieces of admirals?
    1. aszzz888
      aszzz888 28 February 2020 01: 47
      -1
      Astra wild (Astra wild) Yesterday, 19:52
      0
      Quote: Clever man
      All right one ship one admiral all over the state))))

      But what about the boats that the Americans give, will be left without admirals, or do they still have 10 pieces of admirals?
      It’s necessary to strain green - to give the admiral's shoulder straps someone else from a collective farm formation, under the name unnecessary.
  27. Metallurg_2
    Metallurg_2 27 February 2020 19: 58
    +1
    Admiral of the tank forces laughing
    1. aszzz888
      aszzz888 28 February 2020 01: 44
      -1
      Metallurg_2 (Michael) Yesterday, 19:58
      0
      Admiral of the tank forces laughing
      Absolutely a bullseye. good ... It came from tankers, trying to steer something at sea. I write "on the sea" because there is no navy in ukroreyhe at all. wink
  28. Petrol cutter
    Petrol cutter 27 February 2020 20: 38
    +3
    Why should he fuss?!. Is he really going to fight at sea with someone ... request
    Sit in your office, get your salary. While paying.
  29. aszzz888
    aszzz888 28 February 2020 01: 41
    0
    Also, the commander of the Navy noted the underwater component of the Black Sea Fleet, saying that Russia has deployed seven submarines in the region, six of which, he said, are "modern and very effective."
    If ENTot Senya measures the cap on his own, then one boat and a half of BK will be enough for the eyes to send Senya to his previous job - the tank crews - due to the complete absence of the tyulkin ukroflot, as such laughing
  30. sgr291158
    sgr291158 28 February 2020 06: 10
    0
    And you ask Trump, he will drive you the decommissioned rubbish on the cheap.