Chinese way. Almost manifest

Chinese way. Almost manifest

I represent Lin Tsai from the city of Changchun in the north of China. This is closer to our Vladivostok than to Beijing. Lin is an expert on Eurasian cooperation and, naturally, works for the Chinese Communist Party. And recently she published a very interesting opinion. Yes, of course, it has the right to life, despite the fact that there are controversial issues, so, having secured her consent, I suggest you get to know him.


I will try not to give any additional coloring to this material, that is, just give the opinion of a resident of China. Although, of course, there is also an opinion on this. So…



I communicate mainly with representatives of left-wing social movements and parties. But! Sometimes representatives of the right-wing political field also write to me. The whole essence of their many messages can be reduced to one short and capacious propaganda: “Tie up to play your ineffective socialism. Socialism is forever a thing of the past. If it weren’t for your bloody Communist Party, you would now live in Sweden. With a large package of social guarantees and without an iron curtain. "

I have something to answer this agitation. And right now I will give an extremely detailed answer.

Comrades! Look at India. One hundred years ago, India and China were at about the same level of economic development. And even in terms of population were very close. In the middle of the century the Communist Party came to power in China, a course was taken to build socialism. India remained capitalist.

What do we see today - in fact, not speculation?

China bypasses India, its neighbor, in absolutely all respects of socio-economic development. Surpasses economically. Superior culturally. Outperforms infrastructure.

Take, for example, the health care system.

Over the past twenty years, more than twenty thousand hospitals have been built in the People's Republic of China. Compulsory medical insurance, albeit for now, alas, not including all types of diseases, covers the entire population.

Do you understand what these huge numbers are? Are crazy. This is a fantastic leap forward in development that no capitalist country in the world is capable of.

What are the successes of India? They are actually not there. Four hundred million people do not have access to health care at all. Hospitals and hospital beds are sorely lacking. Sanitary standards are not respected. Medical equipment is widely used, which is outdated decades ago.

If China had not taken the socialist path of development in the middle of the last century, then it would not be any different now from its notorious neighbor. Why? Because the international division of labor and production, which is characteristic of a global capitalist society, would not allow China to become anything other than a resource appendage of the imperialist bloc of states led by the United States of America.

China has become different and now claims to be a great world power - only because, thanks to socialism, it has broken out of the framework of the capitalist division of production. Therefore, it is logical to consider the construction of socialism in China as part of the national liberation struggle of the Chinese people. Such a statement does not contradict Marxism.


In conclusion, I want to note that I am not at all happy about the plight of things in India. I am a communist. Internationalist. My soul hurts when I reflect on how the unhappy Indian people suffer. How hungry mothers suffer who have nothing to feed their children. How children suffer, whom no one will ever teach to read and write. How suffer fathers working fifteen hours a day, but not able to provide for their families.

And in fact in a similar way things are not only in India! Lawlessness. Exhausting, low paid labor. Lack of access to quality education and health care. Wars and bloody coups d'etat. All these are the realities of Latin America, Asia, Africa, the post-Soviet space. Billions of people are suffering. And they do not even hope that the terrible state of things will one day change for the better.

But the great philosopher Karl Marx, who left us the legacy of Marxism, proved that it is possible, and therefore, it is necessary to change the world for the better. And only Marxists are able to do this.

Conscious, educated representatives of the proletariat - a multibillion-dollar social class consisting of wage earners. So what are we waiting for? Why not acting?

The crime is to know that you can change this world for the better, and do nothing. It is time to engage in the global awakening of the proletariat. It is time to create Marxist circles, Marxist parties, merge them into the international and begin a decisive attack on the inhuman, cruel and criminal world.

It was on our share with you that happiness fell to realize the utopian dreams of all the oppressed. Build a new, fair world. A world without poverty. No wars. Without the contrary division of people into masters and slaves, suitable only for the interests of their wealthy masters.


In general, such a manifest is not bad. The old Karl Marx could be replaced by someone more modern - and more!

Do you know why I decided to take this opinion very seriously? Because in China there is one batch. CPC - The Communist Party of China. Yes, many will now say that we also have one. I agree. Yes, we also have a one-party system, all other non-partisans are simply attempts to create the appearance of democracy.

But is it possible to compare? Oh no. Of course not. Still, there is a difference, which, I think, is not worth explaining in detail. Between the CCP and EP. Who is behind the Chinese party, and who is behind the Russian.

“United Russia” is only able to sit in chairs and ensure “fair” elections, while the CCP does not need such petty games. The party already has everything, and most importantly - there are such party members who are ready to go, run, build ...

And they will, if the party says so. And they will kindle such a fire of revolution, some will tire of putting out. And if you do it wisely, calmly, without marching tank and infantry columns ...

In any case, worthy of attention. And in general, in the Chinese Communist Party there is something so attractive that has long been no longer in the Russian parties.
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  1. Slavutich 27 February 2020 06: 01 New
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    The old Karl Marx could be replaced by someone more modern - and more!

    ? On brother Chubais?
    Old Marx will be right as long as there is capitalism.
    1. 210ox 27 February 2020 06: 18 New
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      Someone in Russia should think about it. However, they have tense thoughts, they fulfill the requirements of phasington.
      1. Aerodrome 27 February 2020 06: 59 New
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        вот за эти успехи,Китай и получил коронавирус,...чтоб тормознул маленько...
      2. EvilLion 27 February 2020 11: 27 New
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        For example, Fushington ordered Chinese banks not to cooperate with Russia, and they took it under the hood. Like Huaway. She was bent, and China did nothing. Because China is a colony imagining itself to be a master.
        1. Lexus 27 February 2020 18: 02 New
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          "Original" conclusions ...
          The USA for China is a priority economic partner. Turnover is orders of magnitude greater than with Russia, from which all resources are pumped without problems in exchange for low-grade junk. Because they agree with the strong, but they wipe their feet on the weak. That is what the Chinese did, refusing to "cooperate."
          1. EvilLion 28 February 2020 09: 20 New
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            Nothing that Russia is the only country where China can buy really sophisticated technologies, like nuclear power plants?
            1. SovAr238A 29 February 2020 14: 14 New
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              Quote: EvilLion
              Nothing that Russia is the only country where China can buy really sophisticated technologies, like nuclear power plants?


              Do you even think about what you are writing?
              At least they asked a question.
              And then so simply and at ease with a full aplomb they sat down not like in a puddle.
              After such "jambs" - they used to shoot ...
        2. Alexey LK 4 March 2020 01: 31 New
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          Quote: EvilLion
          Like Huaway.

          I do not know such a company. I know Huawei. Remember, come in handy yet!
    2. Arlen 27 February 2020 11: 06 New
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      Quote: Slavutich
      Old Marx will be right as long as capitalism

      Китайские коммунисты обуржуазились. Деятельность КПК носит буржуазный характер и приобретает глобальные обороты по отходу от марксизма-ленинизма. Политика проводимая КПК может в будущем привести к созданию нового пролетарско-революционного движения. Против буржуазного курса КПК в своё время выступали: маоистская компартия Непала, а также «Новый китайский левый блок», созданный в 1972 году, для борьбы с реставрацией капитализма в КНР и возвращению к маоистскому коммунистическому курсу.
      1. AU Ivanov. 27 February 2020 12: 03 New
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        If the Chinese Communists were not bourgeois, China would still be a poor country, like North Korea, but armed with the advanced ideas of "Marxism - Leninism. It was precisely because of the transition to a market economy that China rushed up.
        1. dSK
          dSK 27 February 2020 13: 47 New
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          Because the international division of labor and production, characteristic of a global capitalist society, would not allow China to become something other than a resource appendage of the imperialist bloc States led by the United States of America.
          1. rich 27 February 2020 15: 59 New
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            I present to you a member of the CCP, Lin Tsai, from the city of Changchun in the north of China

            wow they have party members! directly Mayakovsky’s verse asks for itself yes
            Yes be me
            even a black man of advanced years,
            and then
            would visit China
            chinese would have learned
            just for
            what im
            said Lin Tsai.
            1. New Year day 27 February 2020 18: 19 New
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              Quote: Rich
              wow they have party members!

              good chinese girl!
              1. rich 27 February 2020 18: 53 New
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                Greetings to you, Sylvester.
                It’s a pity that Mikhan was again banned again, otherwise he would have revered his signature koment from the category - I would have told her laughing
                1. New Year day 27 February 2020 18: 56 New
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                  Quote: Rich
                  Greetings to you, Sylvester.

                  good evening! But really, good! Beauty is a terrible force! hi
                  1. rich 27 February 2020 18: 58 New
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                    You can’t argue with that
            2. akunin 28 February 2020 17: 45 New
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              Quote: Rich
              would visit China
              chinese would have learned
              just for
              what im
              said Lin Tsai.

              I visited it, but learning Chinese (especially writing) is not enough for one ling tsai
              1. rich 28 February 2020 18: 26 New
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                Have you tried explaining with gestures?
                1. akunin 28 February 2020 19: 17 New
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                  Quote: Rich
                  Have you tried explaining with gestures?


                  they say that they didn’t understand (they say: “show in Chinese)” I and “hende hoch” were yelling, they don’t understand. laughing .where I was, in Russian they screw and explain clearly, but in supermarkets everywhere hieroglyphs are longing.
            3. aybolyt678 29 February 2020 10: 27 New
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              chinese would have learned
              just for
              what im
              said Lin Tsai. [/ quote]
              pretty girl !! love love love that’s what you need to take to the Party, they’ll follow them !!
              1. dSK
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                Russian President Vladimir Putin signed the law on the introduction of the title "City of Labor Valor". The politician introduced the corresponding draft federal law to the State Duma on December 14, 2019. The law was adopted by the State Duma on February 20, approved by the Federation Council on February 26.
                - which city will be awarded the title of first?
  2. Slavutich 27 February 2020 06: 03 New
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    In China, when compared with Russian history: NEP, we will wait and see, but their economic model is unambiguously sharply more effective than tracing paper from the West in the Russian Federation.
    1. EvilLion 27 February 2020 11: 28 New
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      NEP ended very badly.
      1. AU Ivanov. 27 February 2020 12: 04 New
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        NEP ended very poorly. The first result of the folding of the NEP is the card system.
        1. EvilLion 27 February 2020 12: 14 New
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          The history of the NEP is how to legalize drugs first, after which there are no problems with drugs on paper, and then again to ban, and lo and behold, problems appeared. So the NEP, at first they lifted the ban on the grain trade, but since it’s free, what cards, and then, when they realized that there was no life from speculators, they again introduced, of course, cards also appear.
          1. AU Ivanov. 27 February 2020 12: 19 New
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            The Bolsheviks introduced the New Economic Policy, frightened by mass peasant uprisings. As a result, trade normalized, goods appeared on the shelves, people got the opportunity to do their own thing.
            1. EvilLion 28 February 2020 09: 25 New
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              Trade then was so “normalized” that cities with hunger simply demanded that the authorities finally do something with the village and fists. You really write some nonsense. The very essence of speculation involves the purchase of scarce goods and the creation of an even larger deficit with increasing prices. Otherwise, it simply does not work. And it’s right that in the USSR they planted for speculation, because all the goods from speculators are bought up for resale.
              1. AU Ivanov. 28 February 2020 09: 35 New
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                Under the NEP, there were goods in stores. In free sale. After its destruction, cards were introduced for both food and manufactured goods. And for what reason is this, a peasant cannot demand a real price for the produce he grows? Not the one according to which the state squeezed the result of his work from the worker, but the real, market one, formed from the demand-supply relationship
                1. EvilLion 28 February 2020 09: 58 New
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                  Of course, I wildly apologize, but now we are having a discussion on the principle:
                  - Why aren’t nuclear reactors being built in Russia?
                  - Because they are being built!

                  The initial assertion that under the NEP everything was well is absolutely false. There were no goods in stores, maybe they were in the markets, but at horse prices. Because the NEP did not produce a damn thing, it is generally difficult to produce, it is much easier to engage in sales, as the whole history shows, including the Russian 90s, when prom. production at the bottom, and the whole country on the market.

                  Further, the peasant could not demand any real price, the state gave it to him anyway, otherwise he would not grow anything at all. Another thing is that a fist can offer him 5 kopecks per bag more. At the same time, the peasant himself rarely sells anything at all, to sell it is necessary to go to the bazaar with bags, but if this is far, or he borrowed the horse only for plowing, it’s generally easier to turn in the wholesaler. At the same time, the large landowner farms that produced marketable grain were partially destroyed (well, if the state farm could do it, or they could just give the peasants land that without modern agricultural technology would simply bring it to the state of their allotments with yields of sam-3, sam-4) . That is, there has been less commodity grain for export and to cities than before the revolution. And if grain is in short supply and bought up by kulak wholesalers, and then urban speculators, then they will sell it at appropriate prices, and do not lay out the goods if the price does not suit them. Everyone needs to eat constantly, and grain can be stored for several years. So they will not go anywhere, they will pay at exorbitant prices. True, it happens that it rots, which also does not improve the supply situation. And there is nothing to be surprised that then the hungry workers from the cities will go to the "impudent pisants" to clean their faces and search for hidden grain.

                  This is not a free market; frank blackmail and extortion by the village are here.
                  1. AU Ivanov. 28 February 2020 10: 05 New
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                    А это неумение большевиков организовать торговлю. Вместо того, чтобы организовать нормальную потребкооперацию, поддержать крестьянина по части сбыта урожая, помочь мелкому частному бизнесу, согнали в колхозы, откуда гораздо проще было выгребать продовольствие, уничтожили частную торговлю, заменив ее громоздкой и неповоротливой распределительной системой. НЭП, кстати, производил. Обувь, одежду, другие товары народного потребления. После его сворачивания из продажи пропали и стали дефицитом элементарные пуговицы.
                    1. EvilLion 28 February 2020 10: 47 New
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                      Stolypin already tried to support this private business. But it was only necessary to do this 100 years earlier. As for the collective farms, the collective farm is the only way to give the farmer agricultural technology, because on tiny individual plots this will not work. A tractor will not pull every single peasant's yard. Investing here is worthless. Again, there are few tractors, many peasants. They can buy a tractor only a chipper. Well, this is called a production cooperative, in particular a collective farm. Not to mention the organization of maintenance of this equipment. It is possible to build several collective farms around one MTS, and they can still solve some problems among themselves if they rent something in turn.

                      And if we take conditionally 10 percent of the best hard workers, and most likely they will not be plowmen, but fists, and give loans, it will lead to the fact that they will simply become new landowners, they will buy land from everyone else, because they will also buy tractors then the need for a slave. their strength will fall, as a result, tens of millions of former peasants will trample down to cities where there is no work for them, which means that poverty and hunger will destroy the power and new landowners, if it gets wet, start the revolution again. The western farming route with sifting out the weak only works when this process is slow and the sifting out ones can digest the city or they migrate somewhere to Australia or Siberia. So in the 1820th they started, you see, and there would have been no problems in the 1920th. But why, more important, because helping Austrian colleagues in dangerous business to help sit on the throne. So what was needed was a plan for the enlargement of farms, capable of reaching everyone, and inevitably leaving the village, to provide work and study in the cities. Collectivization and industrialization are absolutely interconnected and mutually necessary processes.

                      As for raking, the collective farm is not needed for this, there is a community, you can come to call the headman and say that the plan is such and such, bringing to the attention of the others. Or do you think the master in the village gave everyone a quitrent plan? There is a clerk for this. To communicate with each individual, there will be a lot of honor. Actually, they have lived for centuries. I remember E. Prudnikov in a transfer from Goblin who asked a direct question: "What is needed for the development of agriculture?" Answer: "The farmer", and where is he? In the capital, instead of him, a hired manager who does not care about the peasants, his task is to bring norms to corvee.

                      NEP, by the way, produced. Shoes, clothes, other consumer goods. After it was curtailed, elementary buttons disappeared and became scarce.


                      Well, confuse the 1927th year and acceleration of production. Khrushchev cooperatives in the 1960th, no one was forbidden to produce buttons. The state is generally a lazy thing, it usually does not bother to do what it can do without it. And to create a distribution system - it also requires resources, without the need to do it no one will.
                      1. AU Ivanov. 28 February 2020 10: 51 New
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                        Stolypin was not given so much time to history. The prime minister did not have time, and sticks in the wheels popped into him both on the right and on the left. Although my ancestors in his reform left the community, in short, they changed their lives for the better.
                      2. EvilLion 28 February 2020 11: 27 New
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                        The Bolsheviks after the Military Alert of 1927, when it became clear that soon there was a big war, managed with all the problems and sticks in wheels for 6 years. No 20 years of peace, no one was going to give Russia neither then nor now. Well, the personal fate of your ancestors here is not an indicator at all, the community perfectly understood that if it was canceled and free competition, not all would survive in the most literal sense.

                        Reducing the problem to Stolypin alone is somehow strange, you have to admit that he alone was so smart, the rest did not see anything. However, all that the Empire was able to "give out on the subject" was Stolypin, moreover, when oncology had already entered the last stage, and his attempts to treat it with the maintenance of a "healthy lifestyle".
                      3. AU Ivanov. 28 February 2020 11: 36 New
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                        Correctly, in a competitive environment, the fittest survives - he and feed the country, weak-fed with difficulty fed themselves. The bet was made correctly. The ruined join the ranks of the proletariat, in the 10s of the last century there was a shortage of workers in the growing industry. 20 years later, Stalin did the same, but by forced means. Collectivization has freed up a ton of labor for industrialization.
                      4. IS-80_RVGK2 28 February 2020 11: 59 New
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                        Quote: AU Ivanov.
                        Correctly, in a competitive environment, the fittest survives - he and feed the country, weak-fed with difficulty fed themselves. The bet was made correctly. The ruined join the ranks of the proletariat, in the 10s of the last century there was a shortage of workers in the growing industry. 20 years later, Stalin did the same, but by forced means. Collectivization has freed up a ton of labor for industrialization.

                        Do you even understand how much it would take your beloved capitalist natural path of trial and error? 90s taught nothing?
                      5. AU Ivanov. 29 February 2020 15: 26 New
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                        How many lives have a socialist unnatural path cost, don’t you remember?
                      6. IS-80_RVGK2 1 March 2020 12: 09 New
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                        Quote: AU Ivanov.
                        How many lives have a socialist unnatural path cost, don’t you remember?

                        How about building nuclear power plants through trial and error? Or planes by eye?
                        What fabulous boobies are supporters of capitalism. laughing
                      7. AU Ivanov. 1 March 2020 12: 55 New
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                        Well, the Americans have built a nuclear power plant. And their planes turned out better than ours. It seems like they have capitalism, no?
                      8. IS-80_RVGK2 1 March 2020 19: 56 New
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                        Yes, capitalism. I am very glad that you are slowly starting to understand that the scientific approach and planning is quite a logical result of the development of human society. laughing
                      9. Red Bogatyr 1 March 2020 20: 56 New
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                        It seems like they have capitalism, no?
                        in Latin America, too, capitalism, something paradise is not visible there ... Russia is dying of "capitalist happiness"
          2. IS-80_RVGK2 28 February 2020 11: 57 New
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            Quote: AU Ivanov.
            The prime minister did not have time, and sticks in the wheels popped into him both on the right and on the left.

            An interesting approach. And should they have helped in every way and worldwide? You have not confused anything? This is real life, not your ideas about it. laughing
          3. AU Ivanov. 28 February 2020 12: 00 New
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            The emperor claimed the post of Stolypin. But, for some reason, instead of support, in every possible way complicated his work. This is incomprehensible. Unlike his criticism by the left - everything is clear with them.
    2. aybolyt678 29 February 2020 10: 37 New
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      Quote: AU Ivanov.
      And this is the inability of the Bolsheviks to organize trade.

      In fact, the Chinese economy is a hybrid of NEP and industrialization. The state organizes and supports industry-forming enterprises - machine tools, high-tech raw materials, etc. and private traders are already sewing, collecting .. consumer goods and selling them around the world. At one time, in the joys of having our own industry, we began to stifle the NEP, In China, no .. there they coexist and the Communist Party maintains balance.
      By the way, the wise Communist Party of China forbade its non-communist entrepreneurs to invest in the Russian processing industry and the Chinese bourgeoisie took their visors.
  • svskor80 27 February 2020 06: 10 New
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    All right says. Only modern China, having broken out at the expense of socialism into the economic leaders of the world, is now trying hard to replace the United States in the capitalist system, leading it. At the moment, talking about Marxism in China is ridiculous. And the assertion that all Chinese have access to excellent education and medicine is undeniable.
    1. Pessimist22 27 February 2020 07: 03 New
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      Modern China has become a leader thanks to massive and inexpensive socialist labor and modern and efficient capitalist technologies. The Chinese are smart people, they use two systems from which they took the best for their country, massive and not expensive labor, they combined with Western technologies that were successfully copied and now they are a world factory, which is very difficult to compete with, maybe they are behind in some ways, but they are learning quickly, so in the next few decades, they will be the first in everything.
      1. Slavutich 27 February 2020 07: 28 New
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        The "damned Bolsheviks" did the same
        1. Pessimist22 27 February 2020 07: 39 New
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          All that the Bolsheviks and Communists have done, we have at the moment.
          1. New Year day 27 February 2020 18: 21 New
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            we live by the fact that ...
            Quote: Pessimist22
            made by the Bolsheviks and Communists


            Quote: Pessimist22
            ... we have at the moment.

            the result of the lack of brains in management
            1. Ingvar 72 28 February 2020 21: 06 New
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              Quote: Silvestr
              the result of the lack of brains in management

              Я бы не стал на это надеяться. Есть у них мозги, и делают они все грамотно, лишь прикидываясь недалёкими. Тут важно понимать, что истинные цели у них прямо противоположные заявленным. И только поняв их истинные цели, становятся логичными все их действия. hi
        2. EvilLion 27 February 2020 11: 31 New
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          The Bolsheviks built a country with a focus on domestic needs, rather than earning dollars by tailoring sneakers for export, just to feed the population.

          So I'm sorry, but I completely agree with Oleg Yegorov. China is not a superpower, but a big France, and then at best, whose whole policy is no different from the "policy" of the owner of a consumer goods factory. Neither can offer, nor solve global problems, China is, and is not going to.
          1. IS-80_RVGK2 28 February 2020 12: 55 New
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            Quote: EvilLion
            China is not a superpower, but a big France, and then at best, whose whole policy is no different from the "policy" of the owner of a consumer goods factory. Neither can offer, nor solve global problems, China is, and is not going to.

            Moreover, he is the main competitor to the United States. Do not you find that your opinion is somehow not very consistent with this fact?
    2. EvilLion 27 February 2020 09: 02 New
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      Cheap labor and energy instead of coal. Before the arrival of the Americans, the Chinese themselves only got hunweibins and all sorts of "big leaps."
    3. Robert 28 February 2020 14: 31 New
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      China escaped because it was given to escape. How much dough did they upload there? And then everyone argues: socialism, communism, capitalism. Concepts for the divorce of suckers and the cover of true goals ... As once when world Zionism pumped loot and the United States became the hegemon of the world, so at the turn of 80 -90 it happened to China. The Chinese leadership under the same cap as all other countries of the world ...
      https://inosmi.ru/world/20150330/227177792.html
      Like in the last comment on the article ...
  • Far B 27 February 2020 06: 14 New
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    Thus, the thinking advantage of socialism has long been clear to thinking people, it is enough to compare the growth figures for the economy of the USSR (even the Gorbachev period; how his accomplices managed to create a total deficit with empty shelves in stores - this is a separate issue), and now. Earth and sky. Well, China has already exceeded many times over the rate of economic development of all the "sharks of the West." Moreover, which is characteristic, without total crises that plunged capitalist economies into shock. So yes, the political system needs to be changed.
    1. Kisa 27 February 2020 08: 44 New
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      So they said the same thing 30 years ago, rapturously destroying the Scoop, now let's move on to the competition to the market, then we will live ... If we lived poorly under the communists under the bandits under the capitalists now, then the system has nothing to do with it ..
    2. EvilLion 27 February 2020 11: 33 New
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      Well, if you produce a million trucks from them, donate half to Africa and destroy the second half, because the state still gives, then the GDP will be large, and the stomachs of the population are small.
  • Odysseus 27 February 2020 06: 23 New
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    Все верно и прекрасно написано.Социализм хорош сам по себе и он просто спасителен для всех стран не включенных в ядро мировой капиталистической системы. К сожалению, мы убедились в этом на собственном опыте,плоды отказа от социализма мы пожинаем начиная с 1985.
    However, in China there are big problems, both external and internal. Main internal
    1) КНР разумно использовал рыночные механизмы для своего развития. У них (в отличие от СССР) были к этому объективные предпосылки-наличие огромных резервов трудолюбивой и нетребовательной рабочей силы и теплый климат с выходом к океану.В сочетании с контролем соц.государства это дало прекрасные результаты,но есть и оборотная сторона. Рыночные отношения противоречат самой сути социализма. Влияния Китайских собственников все время толкает КНР к капитализму.
    2) China boosted industrial development, becoming a global factory. This had its price — acute environmental problems, dependence on external sales markets, and on the whole on the state of the global capital economy, the need for ever greater consumption of resources, etc.
    External
    1) КНР очень красиво смогла сыграть на противоречиях между СССР и США,и будучи тесно связанной с кап.миром экономическими связями долгое время смогла избегать прямого противостояния с Западом. Сейчас уже избегнуть этого не получается,Китай все больше втягивается в полноценную войну-пока экономическую и информационную. А коллективный Запад с сателлитами пока все же намного сильнее.
    2) The project "socialism with Chinese characteristics" does not claim to be inclusive (like Russian communism), it is purely Chinese regional socialism. This plus the PRC does not cause such fear and hatred as the USSR in the capitalist world, but also a minus. A regional development project cannot defeat a global project.
    1. Pessimist22 27 February 2020 07: 41 New
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      Cuba and North Korea, the socialist states, how they live there you can see, now everything is available.
      1. Red Bogatyr 1 March 2020 21: 29 New
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        Haiti and Bangladesh - Capitalist
        you can see how they live there, now everything is available.
        But Cuba has a very decent healthcare system (for example, the lowest infant mortality rate among the countries of the American continent), and North Korea has a pretty good arsenal for such a small country!
    2. Andrey VOV 27 February 2020 09: 32 New
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      I do not agree that it all started in 1985 .... unfortunately much earlier
  • Van 16 27 February 2020 06: 27 New
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    In one thing, she is exactly right - everything is known in comparison, and comparison is not in favor of India, and not in favor of capitalism.
    1. Kisa 27 February 2020 08: 47 New
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      What is convenient is what compares. Hong Kong from mainland China shy away from the plague. Fortunately, the virus has dispersed everyone to their homes
      1. Andrey VOV 27 February 2020 09: 33 New
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        Nowhere in the end Hong Kong from China will not go anywhere
        1. AU Ivanov. 27 February 2020 12: 37 New
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          I'm so sorry for Hong Kong. This is a country with the highest standard of living.
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            Quote: AU Ivanov.
            I'm so sorry for Hong Kong. This is a country with the highest standard of living.


            Not quite a country, all the same foreign policy, defense of China. And given that Hong Kong is very closely economically connected with China, then it has only one path, to return to its home harbor in 2047 as it was intended. By the way, in Guangzhou, Shenzhen, Shanghai, there is also a very high standard of living, fairly developed megacities with good infrastructure, and in general, China is developing very rapidly and megacities are growing like mushrooms after rain.
  • rocket757 27 February 2020 06: 38 New
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    What do we need, how do we do it ???
    It’s not really just a transition to another path ... it means we are going further along our road and getting ready !!! but to what, this is a question to which there are "many answers", but in the right way, not so that everything is in the way.
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      "own road" - a raw materials appendage ?????
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        This is not an answer to the question "Where are we all being led?" was!
        This is a statement of the fact that they lead us like a goby on a rope, somewhere.
  • Snail N9 27 February 2020 06: 43 New
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    Article-agitation. The Asian mentality cannot be changed - there, a person is perceived only as a unit that should be used to the maximum for achievement ..... but just with the achievement of something there in Buddhist affairs is tight, achievements are not needed at all, there "just the way" is important - at least there’s nowhere, like in "nirvana". Asian type “communists” have changed this “Buddhist teaching” in their own way — you need to move and move, build “prosperity”, but not for everyone, regardless of the contribution to the overall product, as Lenin said, but for “worthy” people have for those who meet certain requirements, but these requirements will not be established by the people, as it may seem logical for Leninist communism, but a handful of the elect are “the party”, and not even the whole party, but elected from the party in closed meetings. That is, China has again returned to the estate system, disguised as "communism with Chinese characteristics." It is no coincidence that in China, so far, Mao is so exalted, who at one time was so enthusiastic about the structure of the society of ants and considered them a role model when building a human society. China has nothing to do with communism - it is Asian autocracy with a new caste, new "nobles" - "with party cards" at the top, and society is becoming more and more castrated, divided into castes, moreover, closed. Actually, there is nothing surprising here — customization, this is a process characteristic of absolutely all states — isolating the “leading elite” at the top in order to prevent “others” from being managed and to concentrate all the levers of accumulating “wealth” in their hands. relying on loyal subordinate caste groups, which closed the way up, but there is a way to increase their well-being in the inner hierarchy of caste. China is absolutely following the same path, and there doesn’t even smell of any “democracy” there.
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    2. _Sergei_ 27 February 2020 09: 18 New
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      I completely agree with you. The West has invested in China due to cheap labor. I have a lot of acquaintances in China on business. Nobody will work for us for that salary. Our specialists get well, and then until the Chinese take over his experience and dosvidos.
      1. Andrey VOV 27 February 2020 09: 34 New
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        The Chinese have long been not the cheapest labor
  • Den717 27 February 2020 07: 03 New
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    The party already has everything, and most importantly, there are such party members who are ready to go, run, build ...

    Не совсем верно. У КПК есть вторая половина успеха, которая сегодня не всем в России понравится. КПК в Китае - руководящая и направляющая.... И те, кто не с КПК, тот против, а значит под прессингом государства. У нас такое было в период индустриализации и коллективизации. Страна тогда рванула с невероятным ускорением. Но вспомните судьбы СРов и троцкистов. Сегодня в Китае примерно то же. Мы готовы повторить свои 30-е? Надо отдавать себе отчет, народ "в едином порыве" на свершения без стимуляции и принуждения от государства никуда не пойдет. Сегодня все экономические "чуда" творятся при создании условий экономически выгодных для предпринимателей, а их движения весьма инертны. Все импортозамещение у нас происходило силами госкорпораций, отчасти путем "старого и доброго" административно-командного метода, возможного лишь для госпредприятий.
    1. Snail N9 27 February 2020 07: 24 New
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      Китайские бонзы с партбилетами, открыли для себя невероятные возможности, которые дает "цифровая революция" в плане управления обществом. Они поняли простую вещь-ГУЛАГ можно создать внутри самого общества при помощи цифровых технологий, то есть- незачем строить "концлагеря за колючей проволокой" и насильно заставлять "врагов народа" загибаться на рудниках и "народостройках", все можно сделать гораздо проще и эффективней при помощи "чифровых технологий", создав систему тотального контроля за всей деятельностью, каждого человека. При помощи жестких "законов" человек загоняется в цифровой концлагерь получая "цифровой профиль" и "электронную карту гражданина", превращаясь в управляемого юнита, который имеет разрешительную и поощрительную систему в управлении его "цифрового профиля", согласно его соответствию требованиям "государства", то есть он управляется путем лишения или наоборот добавления каких-то возможностей к своему "цифровому профилю" ужимая или расширяя рамки его "свободы" жизни в обществе. Например, можно лишить человека возможности работать в определенной сфере, в определенной отрасли или регионе и сделать так, что ему, чтобы просто не сдохнуть с голода, останется только одна возможность-поехать "добровольно" работать на "народные стройки" или в рудники. Никаких тебе -"колючихпроволок"-разрешаешь человеку работать и перемещаться только в пределах одного места и вуаля, никуда он не денется-везде стоят системы "фейс контроля"-даже в автобус через турникет не войдешь, чтобы уехать в другое место и не купишь ничего в магазинах другого района. Вот оно- "китайское будущее"-"человеческий, цифровой муравейник". И кстати, похоже, что именно такое вот будущее, при помощи наших "китайских друзей" будет строиться и в России, я бы не обольщался на счет того, что "цифровой концлагерь" минует Россию-все к этому и идет, не такими быстрыми путями, как в Китае, но идет.
      1. Den717 27 February 2020 07: 35 New
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        With the help of strict "laws" a man is driven into a digital concentration camp

        Скорее всего тотальная цифровизация захлестнет и нас, как все остальные страны, считающие себя "первым миром". Это дух времени. В какой-то мере, мы придем к "1984" Оруэла. Как это реализуется, покажет время.
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        Digital Prison has long been spreading its bars around the world
      3. AU Ivanov. 27 February 2020 12: 14 New
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        And with us, as always, the implementation of the digital concentration camp is disappointing. Like a telegram lock. Fortunately, the rigor of Russian laws is offset by the non-binding nature of their implementation.
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    1. Sergej1972 27 February 2020 09: 05 New
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      Some parties are valid only in Hong Kong and Macau. And those that operate in the main territory of China recognize the leadership role of the CCP. The number of members of these parties combined is many times smaller than the number of members of the CCP.
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        Quote: Sergej1972
        Some parties are valid only in Hong Kong and Macau. And those that operate in the main territory of China recognize the leadership role of the CCP. The number of members of these parties combined is many times smaller than the number of members of the CCP.


        It's not about bans. Among the Chinese, the CCP’s authority is VERY high. At the household level (communicated - I know) the CCP is the first party to feed a huge country. It just provided the entire population with food. What came before the CCP is hell. Born girls were drowned in the nearest reservoir at the beginning of the XNUMXth century. For a girl is a waste of family resources. Horror. And then the communists came. Chairman Mao - worship. Quotations are everywhere. Not under duress. Therefore, the mass is for the CCP. But there are many others. Join is not prohibited.
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          These parties, by the way, are ranked when mentioned in official communications. The second, after the CCP, is the Kuomintang Revolutionary Committee.
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  • nikvic46 27 February 2020 08: 29 New
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    Quote: Pessimist22
    Cuba and North Korea, the socialist states, how they live there you can see, now everything is available.

    Cuba has been given to you. They live their own lives. In everyday life, no one presses on them. What you can eat, what you can drink. They don’t give advice. Some small businessmen left for Vietnam. And they don’t complain. You have some kind of itch about socialism.
  • Mathafaka 27 February 2020 08: 33 New
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    The Americans moved production to China and invested trillions of dollars in investments. India has not received such money.

    Если социализм был так хорош, где был Китай до Дэн Сяопина?
    The Chinese economic miracle began exactly when the Americans made friends with China and made it a cheap factory for their citizens.
    1. AU Ivanov. 27 February 2020 12: 12 New
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      The beginning of the Chinese economic miracle was laid back in the late 70s - early 80s, with the beginning of Deng Xiaoping's economic market reforms.
  • nikvic46 27 February 2020 08: 39 New
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    I don’t particularly envy China. Often I watch movie trips. There are a lot of people in cities. It’s very unusual for us. But I’m not going to scold. With so many people and social programs it’s admirable. Any other country with such a population would simply be lost .
    1. Andrey VOV 27 February 2020 09: 38 New
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      One thing on TV, but in reality, the first time you get to China, you first fall into a stupor — how many of them !!!!!!!
      1. Sergej1972 27 February 2020 11: 37 New
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        Everything is relative. Here are many provincials who do not like Moscow crowded places. And I, the same provincial, am surprised that there are not many people in the streets of Moscow visually. Some people don’t like skyscrapers, and I would be glad that there were ten times more, and higher.) In general, cities should be compact. Let there be more forests.
        1. Andrey VOV 27 February 2020 11: 49 New
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          Well, I don’t know whether it’s relative or not ... even compared to Mexico City, who doesn’t know exactly how many people, Beijing and Shanghai simply amaze ... and all at once look the same ... and when flying to Moscow, oh, how few people are, but I’m already finally arriving home completely in the desert, people ay !!!!!! and there are less and less compact cities, urbanization, huge ones absorbing themselves like a vacuum cleaner, an example of oh Moscow ... and Lyubertsy for example .... there is no border. .only inscriptions
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            We have a lot of Chinese studying, they never seemed to me on one face. And at first it was striking that many of them, despite the widespread opinion, were by no means narrow-eyed.)
    2. Kisa 27 February 2020 20: 08 New
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      And how long have you been traveling on TV?
      He took a passport and flew for the weekend belly to warm. I saw in real life how Cuban comrades live. Do not campaign for them
  • Oleg Zatsepin 27 February 2020 08: 41 New
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    Only those who have the opportunity to appropriate the fruits of the labor of thousands of ordinary citizens drown for capitalism. There is no other “attractiveness” in it. Only a brake in development. From simple families to civilization as a whole.
    1. Sergej1972 27 February 2020 11: 40 New
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      Well, small business and medium business should be developed anyway. Unfortunately, unfortunately, the moral qualities of many (by no means all, and not even the majority - don’t think anything bad) of “small” businessmen are doubtful.
    2. AU Ivanov. 27 February 2020 12: 08 New
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      And you have not yet succumbed to socialism during the USSR?
      1. Igor Polovodov 27 February 2020 12: 47 New
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        Do you have a burp?
        1. AU Ivanov. 27 February 2020 12: 50 New
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          Similarly - belching, and with rotten. It’s not very edible, this socialism is performed by the Soviet Union.
          1. Igor Polovodov 27 February 2020 12: 52 New
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            Just get rid of the zombies around you!
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              I basically see, especially on this site, zombied by communist propaganda. A sort of sect of "witnesses of the USSR"
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            Quote: AU Ivanov.
            and with rotten.


            А чо тухлятиной кормились? В СССР продукты то были покачественней чем сейчас. Хотя вы видно любитель сего, и комментариях чувствуется запашок.
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              Don’t you choose a high-quality product from all the current abundance, or are you force-fed substandard? This is not a scoop, where eat what they give. If you have time to buy it, it’s not yet taken apart. I’ll tell you one secret - then all over the world the products were better than now, due to the lack of appropriate technologies.
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            Have you lived in the Soviet Union then? Judge here.
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        Already sick of your capitalism! Here the sores will begin to pester you immediately understand the difference!
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      Capitalism is drowned by people who are accustomed to thinking, initiative and business. Accustomed to walk in the herd and look into the mouth of a good uncle - drown for socialism.
      1. Campanella 29 February 2020 00: 20 New
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        However, you are a giant of thought! Creative! It’s interesting what business people like you think)))
        Would not be dishonored by their worldview not clouded by excessive knowledge! Your liberal cliches are sore. Although I understand you, it’s hard to come up with something yourself.
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  • Avior 27 February 2020 09: 01 New
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    Slyly disingenuous expert.
    It does not take into account that the Chinese live in China, and the Indians in India.
    Which is not the same at least in terms of hard work.

    Indian yoga doesn’t care what structure to sit and meditate for years under, even under capitalism, even under socialism.
    But the Chinese from the internal provinces also have no difference, in which order to drag a wheelbarrow and wave a pickax.

    А вот, например послевоенные истории материкового Китая и Тайваня эксперт почему то не сравнивает.
    Or closest neighbors - Koreans. Also does not compare.
    The expert is also cunning about the division of labor. China rushed just when it found its place in the very capitalist division of labor and became a large assembly factory. And the other has already reached for the first.
    Нельзя , конечно, отрицать, что сами у себя в государств китайцы тоже порядок с чиновниками и прочим стараются поддерживать довольно жесткими мерами, это неплохо, но только если бы это и все, что нужно для успеха , то КНДР был бы мировым лидером по всем направлениям.
    smile
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    very interesting opinion. Yes, of course it has the right to life


    Of course, I do not agree with the expert, but I am for such experts to appear on the VO, with photos, of course. You can even open an expert column in the style of “The Naked Truth” - I will not mind smile
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      Searched, searched, and found a place in the capitalist division ... somehow your version looks foggy and not very believable. Russia also searched, searched .... Romania is seeking, Greece ...
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    My soul hurts when I reflect on how the unhappy Indian people suffer. How hungry mothers suffer who have nothing to feed their children.


    Well, it’s straight the Soviet party meeting.
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      And you were a communist, Reasoning here with the appearance of an expert?
  • Jurkovs 27 February 2020 09: 29 New
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    Only Chinese people can walk in Chinese ways.
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    A wonderful manifesto ... but Roman, let's be objective, we must compare the CCP, starting with the CPSU and with other parties that were at the helm, and the conclusion will be sad that the MAO was right when it reared up against the course of Khrushchev, which began after Stalin's death. China, like the USSR, walked the path of mistakes, blood, repression, but didn’t get out of the hands of the main thread and found a path along which the USSR hadn’t Khrushchev, God had given Stalin more life and had he prepared the continuity, there would have been no collapse, and would we be a real Great Power to this day
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      it is necessary to compare the CCP starting with the CPSU and with other parties


      Meaning? The CPSU has long been everything, and the CCP works as if nothing had happened. Soon there will be a centenary, by the way.

      Quote: Andrey VOV
      China went along the path of mistakes, blood and repression like the USSR


      That's right, but we are talking about today and tomorrow, and not about what happened 60 years ago. I do not know what a bright future China has, but it will most likely just be.
      1. Andrey VOV 27 February 2020 10: 23 New
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        In the next couple of years, not everything will be all right in China, as in many, thanks to the journalists who fan the hysteria about coronovirus. About the fact that there is no Communist Party for a long time .. well de jure yes, I agree, but de facto ... many former who are in power, who are in the so-called opposition. Well, if the CCP and Edro, then it’s also not entirely correct ... the CCP has a much tougher hierarchy, the responsibility of members for affairs is incomparable with the fact that we have a lot of similarities, but also a lot of differences
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          In the next couple of years, not everything will be fine with China, like many


          Well, somehow there they are optimistic about all this. Type AIDS survived, bird flu survived, and survive it. The antivirus with the crown has already been invented.
          1. Andrey VOV 27 February 2020 10: 31 New
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            Yes, everyone is optimistic, except for WHO and pharmaceutical companies, that such a cymes and gesheft from scratch, and the fact that China’s economy is not only a blow to a trillion ... even Uncle Trump is concerned about this infection, although he has the biggest this profit. And China rescues them just freakish discipline and efficiency ... but after all, even then we could ... not just a hospital in seven days, but industries in months from one place to another
    2. AU Ivanov. 27 February 2020 15: 46 New
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      How many Great Helmsman destroyed his people there during the Cultural Revolution and the Great Leap Forward? Stalin nervously smokes Herzegovina Flor aside.
      1. chenia 27 February 2020 16: 08 New
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        How many Great Helmsman destroyed his people there during the Cultural Revolution and the Great Leap Forward


        Ukraine in 30 years destroyed 1/3 of the population. And there is no jump, but there is a jump into the abyss. Developed capitalism however. And the total losses of the countries that were part of the USSR (over 30 years) are 70-75 million people.

        Quote: AU Ivanov.
        Stalin nervously smokes Herzegovina Flor aside.
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          Do not confuse emigration and physical destruction. And there is no developed capitalism in Ukraine - there is the same as our developed bureaucracy. Developed capitalism is being built by China and it is already succeeding.
          1. chenia 27 February 2020 16: 28 New
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            Do not confuse


            I do not confuse. This is not only emigration. This and
            Quote: AU Ivanov.
            physical destruction.


            Moreover, focused and constant, and not a company. And the country in the economic, military, scientific with an educated population was among the leaders.
            and HAS CAPITALISM (BY TIPS AND LEGALS OF THE FOREIGN BUREAU). Well, that is, complete degradation. An absolute example.
            1. AU Ivanov. 27 February 2020 16: 31 New
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              Can Ukrainians beat sticks with sticks? Or hoes, like in Cambodia under the communist Paul Pot?
              1. chenia 27 February 2020 16: 38 New
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                Quote: AU Ivanov.
                Communist Paul Pot?


                It was a deal. The communist Pol Pot communists (Vietnamese) and kicked under the cries and cries of the capitalists.
                Do you need an example of how the capitalists stacked people in packs into the grave? Or will you find it yourself?
                1. AU Ivanov. 27 February 2020 16: 41 New
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                  У коммунистов это получалось гораздо лучше, чем у капиталистов. Был и социалист один, с приставкой "национал". Так он по делу уничтожения людей вообще номер один в мире, куда там буржуазии до него.
                  1. chenia 27 February 2020 17: 02 New
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                    There was also a socialist


                    Ha! If, I give an example of the successes of communist China, you will deny and refer, saying what kind of socialism is it?
                    And in this case? Purely your boyfriend. There even slogans were appropriate. And you are about the working party.
                    Вы не подскажете, когда в США были отменены (во всех штатах) законы расовой сегрегации. Или почему в Мексике преобладает коренное население (пусть даже метисы), а в много большем США несколько миллионов? Причем территория благоприятная для проживания (в Канаде с этим похуже, но коренного побольше).
                    Where are hundreds of millions of Indians?
                    Why, Hitler looks like a bully from kindergarten.
                    1. AU Ivanov. 27 February 2020 17: 12 New
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                      Китай перестал быть коммунистическим и даже социалистическим с момента отмены запрета на частную собственность средств производства. Средства производства в частных руках - это уже капитализм, как бы не именовала себя правящая партия. Да и успехи экономика Китая стала делать только с переходом к рынку.
                      1. chenia 27 February 2020 17: 28 New
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                        Quote: AU Ivanov.
                        Yes, and the success of the Chinese economy


                        And why not the success of Ukraine?
                        INITIAL.
                        An educated, hardworking population. Fertile land. A powerful economy (engineering, electronics, energy, aviation and shipbuilding, etc.).

                        And came capitalism.
                        TOTAL- an endangered country with a destroyed economy.
                        Continue to continue, or yourself ...
                      2. AU Ivanov. 27 February 2020 17: 32 New
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                        Neither in Russia nor in Ukraine is there any mention of capitalism. The authorities are the same bureaucrats with a communist past. The same Soviet eggs - side view. Capitalism has come in Sweden, Canada, Belgium, Israel at last. There really is capitalism, and in our country the kingdom of a developed bureaucracy.
                      3. chenia 27 February 2020 18: 00 New
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                        Quote: AU Ivanov.
                        not at all.


                        No, this is a system. built as in nature (therefore, different capitalism). Each has its own place in the food pyramid. With all the consequences. Dissenters are driven into democracy and liberalism. Some bombs, some sanctions.
                        Totalitarian liberalism.
                        А
                        Quote: AU Ivanov.
                        The bureaucrats are in power

                        with a capitalist past.
                      4. AU Ivanov. 27 February 2020 18: 34 New
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                        With the communist. In whom do not spit, you will fall into a former member, or Komsomol leader. From that we live. Not a single capitalist in his right mind and solid memory would destroy the Union; it would be unprofitable for him for financial reasons - to break off economic ties is dangerous for his own wallet. And ours still, according to an old habit, ideology governs the economy. Until the communist nonsense of those in power is overlooked, we will live like that.
                      5. chenia 27 February 2020 18: 44 New
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                        Boring. You don’t even understand what I wrote.
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  • prior 27 February 2020 11: 50 New
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    Russia and China have swapped places, Russia has become an energy colony, and China is a superpower.
    Whoever disagrees with this is deceiving himself.
  • Knell wardenheart 27 February 2020 12: 12 New
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    It’s hard to say “well” whether they live in China. In Moscow, I often see Chinese tourists, they are unloaded in piles of buses - I think these are not the poorest Chinese, since I had enough money and time to pull on such a distant trip - and so, they are dressed like that. Somewhere in the late 90s, the audience so loved to dress with us .. Okay, one could say "they have such a style" - well. They just don’t look like a cake - the youth is skinny and pale, of short stature, with faded and sparse hair, the old people are also small, shriveled, shabby and faded people, rather thin. Of course, a lot could be attributed to the diet - but I want to convey one thought - for the most part it is immediately clear that the guys plow there like horses, plow for a long time, in not the best conditions, and the corresponding habits are such that even when you get to the park they mostly stick around benches and sit hunched over in their smartphones. Work - home-work-home, as a cult, as the only possible and true life.
    This is what I see when I see most Chinese tourists. No, there is certainly a beautiful and fashionable audience that rushes like bees to shops and take selfies on every corner - but this is a multiple minority ..
    As in Sweden - these guys would not live for sure) Even if they bought America with giblets. One and a half lard of the population of kakbe hints that there will always be the wildest-packed city environment, shitty ecology, tough fake food, no personal space and fierce competition in everything, starting from kindergarten. The fact that they now live is PROBABLY the best possible image for themselves - oh, yes! But this is definitely not our way - we have already gone through all this, we saw how it MAY end in an instant - and although there are people who want to repeat it, right along Marx - I would not risk it)
    It is better to study the European experience - there both values ​​are closer and the standard of living / population is closer to our understanding of “good”.
  • Erik 27 February 2020 13: 26 New
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    Thus, the thinking advantage of socialism has long been clear to thinking people, it is enough to compare the growth figures for the economy of the USSR (even the Gorbachev period; how his accomplices managed to create a total deficit with empty shelves in stores - this is a separate issue), and now. Earth and sky. Well, China has already exceeded many times over the rate of economic development of all the "sharks of the West." Moreover, which is characteristic, without total crises that plunged capitalist economies into shock. So yes, the political system needs to be changed.

    And very simply, that all-great KGB. There is no one more especially.
  • Operator 27 February 2020 13: 36 New
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    Damn, are there really glamorous Chinese bloggers still in nature - escort girl girls in full content of the International Department of the CPC Central Committee? laughing
  • CBR600 27 February 2020 15: 26 New
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    Her nose is an offset love
    __ Reported as she gave, ahem ... in the sense of a bot, she even sobbed - "my soul hurts ...".
    __ женюсь, так быть. Дайте номерок плиз.

    Это ж надо так над нами поиздевались, вот тут слов не хватит. Не жадность, а тупость и лень сломали КПСС, отвергли заветы Сталина, возомнили себя феодалами и вот их дети уже правят. Судьба страны начинается с суверенитета. Его с 1917 как не было так и нет по сей день. А у руля всё те же.
    __ Не фиг обсуждать КПК и сравнивать с КПСС, надо собой заниматься, у воров все деньги. И власть у них же. А мораторий не отменят, это международный уровень/институт. Смелости не хватит. Да и для себя такие законы пишут, что б бошки, как при царях, не рубили да на кол не сажали.
    ___ Thank you to the author, there would be more pictures =)
    1. Avior 27 February 2020 15: 40 New
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      This Lin Tsai did not find.
      Found another, but she is from Taiwan

      эта капиталистическая Лин Цай тоже ничего smile

      smile
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        1. Avior 27 February 2020 16: 00 New
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          "Noses are different, noses are important."
          smile
          And the first one has not only a nose, everything else is very outstanding smile
      2. CBR600 27 February 2020 15: 59 New
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        No, no, not at all. There is a noooos ...



        and look- mmm ... amuuur
        Here is the look of a real wife
        1. Avior 27 February 2020 16: 05 New
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          I don’t argue, the upper one looks mature
          but the bottom has its own type, although another
          Two worlds - two Lin Tsai! smile
          hi
        2. CBR600 27 February 2020 16: 06 New
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          On the topic I wanted to add ... The Chinese have a proverb- Stones of the past are steps of the future.
          Это к тому, что они сохранили традиции. И сохранили их трепетно. А нас их лишили. И тот же суверенитет. Для страны это основа всего.
      3. chenia 27 February 2020 16: 11 New
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        There are values ​​when ideology is secondary.
  • GUSAR 27 February 2020 22: 41 New
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    Well let’s say so, the Chinese Communist Party is only by name. And they have the same communism
  • g1washntwn 28 February 2020 07: 40 New
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    “Are we going the right way?”
    - Yes! To a brighter future! - answered Susanin to the Poles.
    laughing
  • 1536 28 February 2020 12: 40 New
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    India is an independent country, and China is an American factory. As soon as this same "Chinese proletariat" rises, gains "self-awareness", tryndets will come to the whole "development". In the best case, American entrepreneurs will leave China, plunging the world into a shortage of goods, etc. (but this is only for the first time), in the worst, China will face a series of internal and external conflicts, similar to those that occur today in the territory of the former USSR.
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    Over the past twenty years, more than twenty thousand hospitals have been built in the People's Republic of China.
    !!!
  • Antokha 2 March 2020 18: 33 New
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    A beautiful girl in a red dress does not know what she is talking about. And this is normal. Her childish arguments seem obvious to her. China is the world champion in forcing its people to do what the leader says. So China chatted several times in the 20th century alone. Now the girl thinks that China has embarked on a path of progressive development, from which she will never turn back. But from the state in which India is now, China is only a few decades away, and the American market is specially open for it. It is also foolish to compare the two systems according to one single criterion - the declared name (socialism / capitalism). Firstly, completely different and different entities can be hidden behind the name. Secondly, there are dozens, if not hundreds, of criteria determining the development of the state, not the last of which is generally religious. Take Russia 1990-2000 and Putin. We did not change course, did not return to the USSR. But the country is completely different. Or here Marx and classical socialism. Ownership of the means of production is strictly prohibited there. This is almost his main economic postulate, which was strictly observed in the USSR. And where is it in modern China? The Russian reader has long grown out of this kind of “analytics” like this girl’s.
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    What can I say.
    From the window I see a Chinese city. They went forward as far from us as we were from them in 1957.