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Erdogan lamented that Turkey cannot use Idlib's airspace

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Turkish troops will not step back from Idlib. They intend to return their observation posts, which are now behind the contact line of the Syrian military and pro-Turkish militants. This was announced by Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan during a speech to the deputies.


Erdogan believes that Ankara will succeed in ousting Syrian government troops from the line of Turkish observation posts in Idlib. The Turkish President regrets that he cannot use the airspace in this region, but expressed hope that it will be possible to find some solution to this problem.

Several times there were reports that Turkish F-16s tried to enter Syrian airspace, but there they were met by Russian Su-35 fighters.

Since the beginning of the year, Syrian government forces have advanced significantly, occupying more than half of the Idlib de-escalation zone. At the same time, some observation posts of the Turkish army were behind CAA positions. In response, the Turkish president demanded that the Syrians return to the line of posts. Otherwise, he promised to start hostilities.



On February 24, pro-Turkish militants, supported by the Turkish regular army, attacked Syrian positions in the village of Nairab, which was the continuation of fierce battles between opposition groups and government forces. The militants managed to take control and hold this settlement. Now they are aiming at Serakib.
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  1. Lord of the Sith
    Lord of the Sith 26 February 2020 15: 38 New
    +5
    That's right, let them be afraid))
    And the land Turks and their henchmen have already received the wort))
    1. vkl.47
      vkl.47 26 February 2020 15: 42 New
      +4
      Maybe it makes sense for the Syrians to adjust the "urogan" or "sun" to smoke them from there.
      1. Wedmak
        Wedmak 26 February 2020 15: 44 New
        0
        So they have these kind of toys. But cherish, rarely used.
      2. Technologist
        Technologist 26 February 2020 18: 21 New
        +2
        Well, at least not "urygan"))
    2. Sky strike fighter
      Sky strike fighter 26 February 2020 15: 42 New
      +3
      The Turkish President regrets that he cannot use the airspace in this region, but expressed hope that it will be possible to find some solution to this problem.

      Ay yay yay. Why are you upsetting Erdogan? He turned 66 today.
      1. Wedmak
        Wedmak 26 February 2020 15: 56 New
        13
        If it escalates, 67 may not celebrate ... This is not a threat if that ...
    3. Maz
      Maz 26 February 2020 19: 13 New
      +1
      Don't say "Gop!" To Uncle Erdogan - until you jump over.
      1. Kasym
        Kasym 26 February 2020 22: 01 New
        +5
        Erdogan has one goal - to overcome the 30 km zone in Syria. According to Syrian journalists, Russia agrees on 5 km. zone (although I think that this is the speculation of journalists - the GDP has already declared the integrity of Syria’s borders and its sovereignty).
        Neyrab is located on a hill that allows firing on Sarakib, highway M4 and M5. Barmalei did not succeed with this city. Either the aircraft with artillery grind, or launched into the town and then covered.
        Now they are switching to Sarakib. But the result is already clear. An interesting point was noticed by the "specialists": during the day the Turks defiantly introduce tanks and other BTTs, and at night they withdraw them (Leopards-2A4). Apparently, the Turks want to take it "for fear", declaring a large number of troops and equipment in Idlib (15 thousand personnel and 2 thousand units of equipment; but obviously there is less of this "good").
        Erdogan has already set himself up with "launches" of MANPADS (this is a Turkish commando) on the Su-24M. Another interesting fact. The Turks transferred the old am. tanks М60А3. But the barmaley do not know how to fight on them - that means there are Turkish tankers there.
        If on March 5 at the talks (Turkey, Russia, France and Germany) Erdogan does not understand anything, then in Idlib they will explain everything to him with army politeness. Without aviation and air defense systems, the Turks have nothing to "catch" there. hi
  2. fruit_cake
    fruit_cake 26 February 2020 15: 39 New
    36
    someone else blames Russia for the presence of some invisible soldiers in the Donbass? here Turkey is insolently fighting against the Syrian army on the territory of a foreign country and nobody cares
    1. Wedmak
      Wedmak 26 February 2020 16: 17 New
      +7
      This is their own, they can be democratically ... And the customer of the mess is the United States. I give a tooth. Even TWO!
  3. Thrifty
    Thrifty 26 February 2020 15: 42 New
    +4
    Did Erdogad learn anything from history? How many times did the Turks fight against Russia, and how did this end for the Turks? Even the fact that the Turks in NATO does not say anything, because outside the territory of Turkey the alliance will not sign for the interests of Erdogad! Moreover, many people do not like the hemisphere itself, because of blackmail to let millions of refugees from the region into Europe. So, he didn’t wear crowns, and with time he couldn’t even take his head off if a hornbeam with the Turkish army would go to Turkey en masse.
    1. Nikolai Grek
      Nikolai Grek 26 February 2020 19: 07 New
      +5
      Quote: Thrifty
      Did Erdogad learn anything from history? How many times did the Turks fight against Russia, and how did this end for the Turks?

      They are now trying to drive into our heads (including here) that, my God, that's just the war with Turkey Russia was not enough right now !!! what for some reason, they don’t consider it in the reverse order !! fool not that country Turkey, so that Russia was afraid of a collision with it ... but Turkey, at least, is afraid of a collision with Russia is worth it !!! wassat
  4. Sergey39
    Sergey39 26 February 2020 15: 48 New
    +5
    It seems that Erdogan is ready to fight in Syria until the last barmaley.
    1. Andrey.AN
      Andrey.AN 26 February 2020 16: 35 New
      +1
      Erdogan does not pay either Assad or the Russian Aerospace Forces for the destruction of these barmales, they will have to dump them from the site along with the barmales.
    2. Nikolai Grek
      Nikolai Grek 26 February 2020 19: 08 New
      +2
      Quote: Sergey39
      It seems that Erdogan is ready to fight in Syria until the last barmaley.

      until the last Turk !!! laughing
  5. Wedmak
    Wedmak 26 February 2020 15: 50 New
    +9
    What is this undersultan hoping for, curious? In a direct clash, his troops will roll over the rocks, the Turkish Air Force will not help, for sure the S-300 will speak here. And complicating relations with Russia is not at all handy: Turks, the tourist season is near! Again you will eat your own tomatoes.
    And in direct military operations against the Russian Federation, it is certainly not worth it to get into - many gifts will arrive due to Black ...
    1. cniza
      cniza 26 February 2020 15: 55 New
      +3
      That's why it bustles, sees candy, but cannot eat ...
  6. cniza
    cniza 26 February 2020 15: 54 New
    +2
    They intend to return their observation posts, which are now behind the contact line of the Syrian military and pro-Turkish militants.


    As he imagines it, they would crawl home already ...
    1. Terenin
      Terenin 26 February 2020 16: 38 New
      +4
      Quote: cniza
      They intend to return their observation posts, which are now behind the contact line of the Syrian military and pro-Turkish militants.


      As he imagines it, they would crawl home already ...

      Victor, hi and whoever said that there, about the fortress of Ishmael, that they say he would sooner flow into sleep than the Russians would take him ... winked
      . Erdogan. Turkish troops will not step back from Idlib.
      1. cniza
        cniza 26 February 2020 16: 42 New
        +4
        They don’t want or pretend that they don’t want to remember the story. Greetings! hi
        Today, it’s even more difficult for the Sultan to start the holiday season, and not only that ...
        1. Wedmak
          Wedmak 26 February 2020 16: 53 New
          +2
          Today, the Sultan even more difficult begins the holiday season

          And if our Foreign Ministry also recommends not traveling to a country with a turbulent situation and ambiguous attitude towards Russians, it will be quite fun.
          1. cniza
            cniza 26 February 2020 17: 10 New
            +3
            If the Sultan does not calm down, then it will be so ...
            1. Vadim Zhivov
              Vadim Zhivov 26 February 2020 18: 39 New
              +1
              We've got too many tortriots ... Beach lovers and everything included ... hi
          2. Nikolai Grek
            Nikolai Grek 26 February 2020 19: 24 New
            +6
            Quote: Wedmak
            And if our Foreign Ministry also recommends not traveling to a country with a turbulent situation and ambiguous attitude towards Russians, it will be quite fun.

            it would be nice if without any recommendations people had enough brains !! am
    2. Nikolai Grek
      Nikolai Grek 26 February 2020 19: 22 New
      +3
      Quote: cniza
      They intend to return their observation posts, which are now behind the contact line of the Syrian military and pro-Turkish militants.


      As he imagines it, they would crawl home already ...

      will bring to the point that they will be carried forward with their feet !!! request wassat
  7. Krasnodar
    Krasnodar 26 February 2020 15: 58 New
    -4
    This shows that their aircraft do not have modern weapons in service - to support their forces through the Air Force it is not necessary to enter Syrian airspace.
    1. Sky strike fighter
      Sky strike fighter 26 February 2020 16: 06 New
      0
      Strange as it may seem, just for launching from F-16 the SOM KR is suitable. There is even an anti-bunker version of this KR, which has been successfully tested.
      KR SOM was developed in several stages with a gradual complication. The basic version of SOM-A is a 610-kg stealth cruise missile designed to destroy stationary and moving ground and surface targets at ranges up to 200 km.


      Guidance of the RC on the marching section of the trajectory is carried out using a GPS / inertial guidance system with correlation along the contour of the terrain. The mass of a high-explosive warhead is 230 kg.

      https://vpk.name/news/86280_som_stand_off_missile_krylataya_raketa_bolshoi_dalnosti_vvs_turcii.html
      1. Wedmak
        Wedmak 26 February 2020 16: 13 New
        +2
        The air is still closed, both by the Russian Aerospace Forces and electronic warfare systems. It’s pointless to throw one or two bombs. A full-fledged attack is not possible, despite the number of F-16s in Turkey - the losses will be too high. It’s not a fact that ours still didn’t bring gifts to the Syrians in the form of MANPADS or ATGMs in a newer way.
        1. Sky strike fighter
          Sky strike fighter 26 February 2020 16: 20 New
          -1
          Count the number of VKS and Turkish aircraft in the region. Turkey is most likely afraid of an updated Syrian air defense. However, the attack on the Kyrgyz Republic in 2018 was generally handled well. During an air operation, the Turks will have significant losses. I wonder if the Turks have HARM missiles and in what quantity?
          1. Wedmak
            Wedmak 26 February 2020 16: 26 New
            +3
            So with us the group was going to work on the ground, and not gain supremacy in the air. But the S-400 division of the Russian Federation, S-300/200 of Syria, and other smaller caliber air defense systems give reason to seriously think about the consequences of an attempt to break through air defense.
            My question is, how will the Russian Federation act if the undersultan still orders to attack the Syrians and Russians, no matter what? Here is such a blitzkrieg to arrange ... Gifts will fly over the Black Sea? Or first from the Mediterranean?
            1. Sky strike fighter
              Sky strike fighter 26 February 2020 16: 42 New
              -2
              My question is, how will the Russian Federation act if the undersultan still orders to attack the Syrians and Russians, no matter what? Here is such a blitzkrieg to arrange ... Gifts will fly over the Black Sea? Or first from the Mediterranean?

              I think there will be something similar to Vietnam. Not in the open.
      2. Krasnodar
        Krasnodar 26 February 2020 16: 19 New
        -2
        Then why is he crying?
        1. Wedmak
          Wedmak 26 February 2020 16: 28 New
          +1
          Afraid to miss ... and not the fact that all the Kyrgyz Republic will fly. Well, if the American axes are not all flown. And those that flew the effect did not produce much.
          1. Krasnodar
            Krasnodar 26 February 2020 16: 38 New
            -10
            American axes hit all their targets by pushing with SAR air defense. The question is how many of these CDs do Erdogan have?
            1. Wedmak
              Wedmak 26 February 2020 16: 44 New
              +1
              Um ... He doesn't seem to have tomahawks. AGM-158JASSM, this is the maximum air-to-surface that the F-16D can take on board. The question is whether they are in Turkey's arsenal. The ammunition is not cheap.
              1. Krasnodar
                Krasnodar 26 February 2020 16: 56 New
                0
                I'm talking about SOM airborne missile systems - the Turks have some kind of ship ships for a long time
            2. Sky strike fighter
              Sky strike fighter 26 February 2020 16: 55 New
              +3
              Quote: Krasnodar
              American axes hit all their targets by pushing with SAR air defense. The question is how many of these CDs do Erdogan have?

              What are they all? 71 KR out of 103 were shot down. Then at the Pentagon they showed photos of almost no single missile-hit training center, or some other abandoned building. The Pentagon had a debriefing after that failed attack. Who and what they sold there how much?
              1. Krasnodar
                Krasnodar 26 February 2020 17: 01 New
                -1
                The planes were struck at the Et - Shairat airbase, as well as the infrastructure of the airfield. A total of 60 missiles were fired.
                Syrian version
                On this Syrian side (the government agency SANA), 7 soldiers were killed and 18 injured as a result of the strike. Also, as a result of an erroneous blow to the settlements located near the air base (Al-Hamrat, Al-Shuyrat, and Al-Manzul) 9 civilians were killed, including four children; seven were injured
                According to a satellite analysis of the Israeli company ImageSat International, 44 targets (including 13 double high-security shelters for aircraft, 10 ammunition depots, seven fuel tanks) were hit by missiles, some of them, possibly twice
                1. Sky strike fighter
                  Sky strike fighter 26 February 2020 17: 13 New
                  0
                  Quote: Krasnodar
                  The planes were struck at the Et - Shairat airbase, as well as the infrastructure of the airfield. A total of 60 missiles were fired.
                  Syrian version
                  On this Syrian side (the government agency SANA), 7 soldiers were killed and 18 injured as a result of the strike. Also, as a result of an erroneous blow to the settlements located near the air base (Al-Hamrat, Al-Shuyrat, and Al-Manzul) 9 civilians were killed, including four children; seven were injured
                  According to a satellite analysis of the Israeli company ImageSat International, 44 targets (including 13 double high-security shelters for aircraft, 10 ammunition depots, seven fuel tanks) were hit by missiles, some of them, possibly twice

                  So what about the attack on Shairat in 2017? So, if for each goal 50-60 KR are issued, then where to get so many of them? There are hundreds of such targets in Syria, multiply by 50-60 missiles and how many missiles will be needed? How many thousands?
                  1. Krasnodar
                    Krasnodar 26 February 2020 17: 20 New
                    -1
                    So they practiced there - for the first time at the air base - a massive attack on the object to overcome air defense, the second time - comprehensive - by aviation and the Kyrgyz Republic. Type of exercise.
          2. Sky strike fighter
            Sky strike fighter 26 February 2020 16: 40 New
            0
            Quote: Wedmak
            Afraid to miss ... and not the fact that all the Kyrgyz Republic will fly. Well, if the American axes are not all flown. And those that flew the effect did not produce much.

            He is afraid to get into the Syrian swamp by the very tomatoes. The Americans, as it were, would not specifically push him on a gamble so that the operation of the Turkish troops would fail and, as a result, the rebelled Turkish military would drain Erdogan from power, a leader loyal to the West would come, give autonomy to Kurdistan and the process would begin the creation of Greater Kurdistan on the ruins of Syria, Iraq, and then Turkey and Iran, which are not needed as strong states according to the plan to remake the Greater Middle East according to the plan of Israel, the USA and KSA. Turkey also wants to change its leader, because this country needs assistance in attacking Iran. Erdogan trades in circumvention of sanctions with Iran. USA is not interested in Turkey’s success in Syria. And to apply F-16, you need the consent of the Americans, otherwise, in my opinion F-16, if the Americans want to, will not be able to participate in the fighting purely technically.
            1. Wedmak
              Wedmak 26 February 2020 16: 51 New
              +2
              Afraid to get involved in the Syrian swamp by the very tomatoes.

              In my opinion already got involved. The posts in the rear of the Syrians, there is nowhere to twitch. Barmaleev VKS is ironed at every opportunity, despite the presence of Turks among them.
              What will he do? Either try to swoop in, or somehow "agreed" to leave. While there is a chance to leave with a whole face.
              1. Sky strike fighter
                Sky strike fighter 26 February 2020 17: 04 New
                0
                To recapture some small and not particularly important piece of territory, loudly declare that he had won, stopped Assad’s advance and would have reached Damascus, but since the responsible country is Turkey, it was decided at the request of partners after the Russia-Turkey-France-Germany negotiations to continue the process of diplomatic settlement under the new Syrian Constitution. Idlib did not surrender, he defended the interests of the country. Assad will be pleased with the conquered from the greens, his army will be tired and battered, the offensive will be stopped. Shorter converge somewhere in the middle, well, and propaganda in the local media will do its job.
    2. Nikolai Grek
      Nikolai Grek 26 February 2020 19: 25 New
      +2
      Quote: Krasnodar
      This shows that their aircraft do not have modern weapons in service - to support their forces through the Air Force it is not necessary to enter Syrian airspace.

      this shows that they can be left without aviation even without entering the space of Syria !!! request wassat
  8. Pavel57
    Pavel57 26 February 2020 16: 00 New
    +3
    The Turkish army in Syria lost its reconnaissance and strike drone. Images of fragments of a winged device appeared on the Web. In the front of the UAV, the tail number 18031 and the designation ANK011 are clearly visible.
  9. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 26 February 2020 16: 02 New
    +3
    A very strange desire. The Syrians put so many lives, and just retreat and leave the territory? Why? Because Erdogan so wants? From the very beginning, it was clear that Idlib Barmalei was deliberately taken not to run after them all over Syria. It is time to destroy them there. What does Turkish posts have to do with it?
    1. Wedmak
      Wedmak 26 February 2020 16: 07 New
      0
      Here are many who ask this question. On the one hand, he got into the fact that he would not pull on his hump. On the other hand, it is obvious that someone star-and-striped is urging him on whose interests to involve both Turkey and the Russian Federation in all seriousness. That is, with ground operations.
      Let's hope ours find a way out and calm the undersultan.
      1. Sky strike fighter
        Sky strike fighter 26 February 2020 16: 13 New
        0
        Very likely. It seems like the truth.
        It should be noted that the United States and Israel are interested in strengthening the escalation in Syrian Idlib, as well as in destroying the Astana-based format of interaction across Syria between Russia, Turkey and Iran.

        The United States has a good lever of pressure on the military-political leadership of Turkey. It is a matter of the state Turkish bank HalkBank. In early February 2020, the U.S. Court of Appeals granted the bank a deferral of criminal proceedings. HalkBank is charged with billions of dollars of fraud, money laundering and violation of sanctions against Iran. The application of these sanctions can cause a serious blow to the Turkish economy and the rating of the current Turkish authorities.

        It is possible that in exchange for the suspension of the case, the United States expects certain actions from Turkey, for example, the unleashing of a full-scale military conflict in Syria.

        Pentagon spokesman Jonathan Hoffman spoke on February 19, 2020. He said the following: “We see that the Russians and Turks came very close to a large-scale conflict in this region. We hope that they will find a solution that will avoid this. "

        The next day, February 20, the Turkish armed forces directly supported the offensive of Khayyat Tahrir al-Sham-controlled militants and terrorists (an organization whose activities are prohibited in the Russian Federation) in the direction of Kminas-Nairab. However, with the help of the Russian air forces and the Syrian air force, the jihadist attack was repelled.

        http://warsonline.info/iemen/novosti/siriia/turk-syria000-240220-1.html
    2. Aleksandr21
      Aleksandr21 26 February 2020 16: 23 New
      0
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      A very strange desire. The Syrians put so many lives, and just retreat and leave the territory? Why? Because Erdogan so wants? From the very beginning, it was clear that Idlib Barmalei was deliberately taken not to run after them all over Syria. It is time to destroy them there. What does Turkish posts have to do with it?


      Despite the fact that the idea of ​​friendship between Turkey + Russia + Syria and the utilization of militants was promoted by patriots who believe that Erdogan plays in our team, but in reality a different picture where Erdogan supplied, prepared and helped in every possible way to the Turkish fighters who were supposed to capture the territory and give it to Turkey’s control, and here Assad is trying to restore the country and confuses all the cards, Erdogan after Sochi considered Idlib to be his territory and got a little bit crazy when it turned out that new territories were being taken away, so he tries to keep Syria does not plan to give away the territory and understandably, and the militants in this scheme are just a tool.
    3. Nikolai Grek
      Nikolai Grek 26 February 2020 19: 31 New
      +2
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      What does Turkish posts have to do with it?

      perdogan considers his military and their posts of abyss cool that everyone will be afraid, at the first request they will depart for these posts and everything will return to normal !! request laughing
  10. Xambo
    Xambo 26 February 2020 16: 07 New
    +1
    Turkish troops will not step back from Idlib.

    We'll see..
    And the sky of Syria, only Russia is officially available and only tuck in
    There Israel is under the cover of the Golan Heights, but for now ..
  11. Livonetc
    Livonetc 26 February 2020 16: 39 New
    +1
    Well Rejepchik, you do not cry.
    And Idlibchik is not a hamster.
  12. voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 26 February 2020 16: 42 New
    0
    Without air supremacy, ground operations are doomed to failure.
    1. Sky strike fighter
      Sky strike fighter 26 February 2020 16: 48 New
      0
      And dominance in the air does not always lead to victories. For example, as in Lebanon 2006. Is not it?
      1. voyaka uh
        voyaka uh 26 February 2020 16: 59 New
        -1
        Dominance in the air does not necessarily lead to victory, you are right.
        But guarantees a draw, at least.
    2. Incvizitor
      Incvizitor 26 February 2020 18: 58 New
      0
      404 had dominance only to the point, here, depending on whom it supports and the motivation, the Syrians protect their country from the invaders and the Turks themselves do not know what they have forgotten there.
  13. Tank jacket
    Tank jacket 26 February 2020 16: 54 New
    -1
    The fate of Turkey is in the hands of Russia. The campaign will be the Turkish subject of the federation, after the removal of Erdogan from the post of President of Turkey by the Turkish people.
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 26 February 2020 17: 04 New
      -1
      "there will be a Turkish subject of the federation" ///
      ---
      Turkey will become part of the Russian Federation? belay
      Or did I misunderstand you?
      1. Tank jacket
        Tank jacket 26 February 2020 17: 07 New
        -5
        Our peoples will complement each other, again a market. A strong country will succeed. With straits and without NATO bases. In short, a lot of goodies ...
        1. voyaka uh
          voyaka uh 26 February 2020 17: 12 New
          +1
          Yes, already ... 80 million Turks and 140 million Russians. recourse
          Buns will be. Only with whom?
          1. Tank jacket
            Tank jacket 26 February 2020 17: 13 New
            -4
            Together, 220 million is a good domestic market. There are many Palestinians too. Do not find?
            1. voyaka uh
              voyaka uh 26 February 2020 17: 15 New
              +2
              I find it. And I do not see any goodies in this. smile
              1. Tank jacket
                Tank jacket 26 February 2020 17: 18 New
                -1
                And can you assume that this is your subjective assessment? wink
                The ratio of exports to imports is approximately the following: Palestinians deliver about $ 800 million worth of goods to Israel. And they get almost 4 billion.
                1. voyaka uh
                  voyaka uh 26 February 2020 17: 41 New
                  -2
                  A drop in the sea ... Israel exports more than 110 billion goods a year.
                  1. Tank jacket
                    Tank jacket 26 February 2020 17: 44 New
                    +1
                    In percentage terms, Turkey for the Russian Federation is the same as Palestine for Israel.
                    1. Oquzyurd
                      Oquzyurd 26 February 2020 20: 16 New
                      +1
                      In percentage terms of what? And would you specify where the capital will be and who will manage? Since, out of 140 million of the population of the Russian Federation, 30-35 million are Muslims, and 20 million of them are also Turkic-speaking. That is, simple mathematics shows that if 84 million (with refugees 90 million) ) Turkey will unite with Russia, then the Slavs will be in the minority) Do you need this? Also, think about real things, for example, how to develop the largest country in the world. Increases in size are not an indicator of development. If that were the case, then no one would even stand close to the Russian Federation in terms of living standards. If you were taught geography at school and know a map, then look again at the dimensions and think about what is missing?
                      1. Tank jacket
                        Tank jacket 26 February 2020 20: 18 New
                        -1
                        And we will figure it out without you.
                      2. Oquzyurd
                        Oquzyurd 26 February 2020 20: 24 New
                        -1
                        Oh sure..
                    2. Nikolai Grek
                      Nikolai Grek 26 February 2020 21: 07 New
                      +1
                      Quote: Oquzyurd
                      Since, out of 140 million of the population of the Russian Federation, 30-35 million are Muslims, and 20 million of them are also Turkic-speaking.

                      you are not very mistaken ... our Muslims do not feel much sympathy for Turkey !! wink wassat
                    3. Oquzyurd
                      Oquzyurd 26 February 2020 22: 06 New
                      0
                      Yes, of course, they have idols in North Korea lol
  • Nikolai Grek
    Nikolai Grek 26 February 2020 19: 34 New
    +3
    Quote: Tank jacket
    The campaign will be the Turkish subject of the federation,

    what for they to us ?? what fool
    1. Tank jacket
      Tank jacket 26 February 2020 19: 53 New
      0
      Economically feasible ...
      Geographically beneficial. Politically significant. The potential is impressive. Instead, Alaska will do. Provide the curved faces of the Anglo-Saxons from the deed.
      1. Nikolai Grek
        Nikolai Grek 26 February 2020 21: 04 New
        +3
        Quote: Tank jacket
        Economically feasible ...
        Geographically beneficial. Politically significant. The potential is impressive. Instead, Alaska will do.

        what and where will you go to the inhabitants of these territories, so that all of the above you have the right to exist at least theoretically ?? !!! fool laughing
        1. Tank jacket
          Tank jacket 26 February 2020 21: 09 New
          0
          And Crimeans in 2014, where were they?
          1. Nikolai Grek
            Nikolai Grek 26 February 2020 21: 11 New
            +3
            Quote: Tank jacket
            And Crimeans in 2014, where were they?

            what Do you compare Crimeans with Turks ??? recourse fool laughing
            1. Tank jacket
              Tank jacket 26 February 2020 21: 13 New
              0
              And where did you get that I am comparing them?
              1. Nikolai Grek
                Nikolai Grek 26 February 2020 21: 34 New
                +1
                Quote: Tank jacket
                And where did you get that I am comparing them?

                so that you ask such questions ?? or you unconsciously write this ?? what laughing
                1. Tank jacket
                  Tank jacket 26 February 2020 21: 42 New
                  0
                  Do you think that we, as Anglo-Saxons (genocide of Indians, Aborigines), should also act? How many nations with territories have the Russian people annexed? All retained their culture and traditions. They survived together.
                  1. Oquzyurd
                    Oquzyurd 26 February 2020 22: 11 New
                    -1
                    Yes, now they are called small nations yes Turks are also small people?)))
                    1. Tank jacket
                      Tank jacket 26 February 2020 22: 16 New
                      +1
                      And what kind of people do you represent here?
                  2. Nikolai Grek
                    Nikolai Grek 26 February 2020 22: 40 New
                    +3
                    Quote: Tank jacket
                    Do you think that we, as Anglo-Saxons (genocide of Indians, Aborigines), should also act? How many nations with territories have the Russian people annexed? All retained their culture and traditions. They survived together.

                    what Actually, I asked you about something else !!!! wassat Crimean residents of Russia are one thing, another is a dubious contingent of several tens of millions !!! fool Okay, still Turkish territories ... but you offer them along with the inhabitants !!! so I asked you a question ... what the hell are we Turks in Russia ?? !!! am
                    1. Tank jacket
                      Tank jacket 26 February 2020 23: 08 New
                      0
                      Because
                      Globalization is an objective process; its management is subjective in nature.
                      I translate into Russian (extremely simplified): If the Turks and Russians explain that the common enemy is the Anglo-Saxons who are pushing us together, then in the union we will defeat the Anglo-Saxons.
                    2. Nikolai Grek
                      Nikolai Grek 26 February 2020 23: 33 New
                      +4
                      Quote: Tank jacket
                      If we explain to the Turks and Russians that the common enemy is the Anglo-Saxons who are pushing us together, then in the union we will defeat the Anglo-Saxons.

                      what we have few such idiots ... people remember much better who shot down our SU-24 !!! fool
                    3. Tank jacket
                      Tank jacket 26 February 2020 23: 37 New
                      +1
                      Do people remember the two Chechen wars? And which of the "partners" helped the Chechen terrorists?
                    4. Nikolai Grek
                      Nikolai Grek 26 February 2020 23: 39 New
                      +2
                      Quote: Tank jacket
                      Do the people remember two Chechen wars?

                      what after such a question it’s clear that you’re not doing fine with your head !!! request
  • Ros 56
    Ros 56 26 February 2020 17: 07 New
    +2
    There you go, you’ll be more whole.
  • Normal
    Normal 26 February 2020 17: 47 New
    +1
    Stunned, requires the Syrians, in their own country, to leave somewhere or leave this or that area. Stop the earth, I will come down.
  • Chingachguk
    Chingachguk 26 February 2020 17: 49 New
    0
    What kind of sheep did you think of agreeing with this Erdogan? For me, the Turks, for example, are tantamount to boob! During my lifetime, my grandmother asked me - are you a Turk? When I did something wrong. What does this turkish harachalitsya in a foreign country? What is he doing there? He officially declared war on the state of Syria? As a mouse got there with the help of Russia, and now the conditions are dictated and captured by the territory of a foreign state .....
    1. Oquzyurd
      Oquzyurd 26 February 2020 20: 22 New
      0
      "Turks, for example, are tantamount to a goof" The owner of such expressions is usually sent to the educators, or further, there ..
      1. Chingachguk
        Chingachguk 26 February 2020 22: 19 New
        0
        Do not be offended .... Are you probably a Turk? laughing
        1. Oquzyurd
          Oquzyurd 26 February 2020 23: 06 New
          0
          Do not be offended. Offending others, show your weakness as an individual, deserving only not respect.
          1. Chingachguk
            Chingachguk 27 February 2020 08: 32 New
            +1
            How have I offended you? The ones that voiced how my old men called the Turks? Well, excuse me again, I didn't think that you Turks are so vulnerable .... On the other hand, you still do not work honestly, out of tishka, so to speak. Our ambassador was shot in the back, our plane was shot down and everything was stolen on the militants, our guys were tortured from the downed helicopter, now, just like that, "from under the bushes" you help the barmaley ..... Why respect you then? If it was possible for me to decide, then I would do as V, V Putin said --- I would wet them everywhere, even in the sartier! These are the things "dear tovarisch ....."
  • Reserve buildbat
    Reserve buildbat 26 February 2020 18: 41 New
    +4
    "Turkish troops will not retreat a single step from Idlib."
    So, they will be destroyed without exception in Idlib. So that no occupier has time to escape.
  • Vladimir Nizhegorodsky
    Vladimir Nizhegorodsky 26 February 2020 20: 57 New
    +2
    From a dead donkey, Erdogan’s ears, not airspace.
    And for the MANPADS Stinger handed over to the terrorists will answer.
    And for launching from the Turkish post block missiles on SU24 will be remembered to him.
    1. Kuzmitsky
      28 February 2020 13: 40 New
      +1
      I think both Erdogan and Putin are not stupid people. I hope they both see red lines, which are better not to go over ..
  • Vladimir Nizhegorodsky
    Vladimir Nizhegorodsky 26 February 2020 20: 59 New
    0
    After 250 military and civilians repatriated in Turkey, its citizens are unlikely to fit in for him.
  • Sarkazm
    Sarkazm 26 February 2020 23: 28 New
    -2
    To understand the essence, how they are turning to us WHERE WHAT, it’s enough to watch Erdogan’s speech in parliament. Already mentioned in a certain topic, the news agency ANADOL, they have a Russian version of the site and give everything important with a translation for us.
    Below is a link for the lazy, so as not to look for and do not bother their beloved ones, to Erdogan’s speech on the basis of which a news message was written on the site:

    https://www.aa.com.tr/ru/vg/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-%D0%B3%D0%B0%D0%BB%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%B5%D1%8F/%D1%82%D1%83%D1%80%D1%86%D0%B8%D1%8F-%D0%BD%D0%B5-%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%B9%D0%B4%D0%B5%D1%82-%D0%BD%D0%B0-%D1%83%D1%81%D1%82%D1%83%D0%BF%D0%BA%D0%B8-%D0%BF%D0%BE-%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%BB%D0%B8%D0%B1%D1%83/0