Military Review

Zeroing deadlines: the network discusses Surkov’s opinion on presidential powers

169

Vladislav Surkov’s statement on the presidential term provoked wide discussion not only among members of the public, but also in the government.


The author of the thesis of “sovereign democracy” voiced an opinion on the zeroing of presidential terms. According to the ex-employee of the presidential administration, expressed in a so-called SMS interview to the director of the Center for Political Conjuncture Alexei Chesnakov, a hyper-presidential form of government has developed in the country.

According to Surkov, if multiple amendments are made to the Constitution, with clarification of the powers of the head of state, then "according to legal logic, this will be like a different institution, and it is necessary to re-start the report on the presidential terms."

В interview Surkov told Chesnakov that he himself built the system of power in Russia, but "has never been a part of it." At the same time, Surkov called himself a Putinist.

In the Kremlin, commenting on Surkov’s statements about the possibility of counting the president’s terms from the beginning, they recalled that he has recently been "an individual who does not work in the presidential administration."

Dmitry Peskov:

This is the opinion of a Russian, albeit a very competent and authoritative among politicians and political scientists.

By the way, Surkov himself said in an interview that he intends to continue to engage in politics, but so far has decided to temporarily be distracted, since in recent years "he saw life only from the car window."

The working group preparing amendments to the Constitution said that they did not introduce a clause on the possible nullification of the presidential term.

Meanwhile, there are opinions on the network that Surkov’s statement about the hyper-presidential republic and the possibility of starting the countdown of tenure in the presidential chair from the beginning is “for good reason.”
169 comments
Information
Dear reader, to leave comments on the publication, you must to register.

I have an account? Sign in

  1. BAI
    BAI 26 February 2020 14: 12 New
    +3
    in recent years, "I saw life only from the window of a car."

    Even here it was not without Putin. These words are plagiarism (based on) from the movie "The President's Vacation" (with "Putin" from the Comedy Club in the title role).
    1. Machito
      Machito 26 February 2020 14: 23 New
      +8
      Rather, it is a plagiarism from "Prisoner of the Caucasus" laughing "Ours" are afraid of losing their feeder. So they throw in the trial balloons. What if it does?
      Stagnation, he stagnates in Africa.
      1. kjhg
        kjhg 26 February 2020 14: 28 New
        17
        It is time to nullify this power, together with the president, government, governors, deputies and their owners - oligarchs.
        The preservation of their power, as well as the preservation of the capital stolen by them, becomes for them the main task with the approach of the end of the presidential term and with increasing popular discontent with the existing government. They stopped thinking about other tasks long ago, although they continue to chat about them for the people. In fact - zero movements. All with anguish row gold and exported abroad, fearing an impending social explosion.
        But without a fight, they, the trillions taken from us, will not give up. By 2023-2024, all the money available in the budget will be thrown into another deception of the people. This task for them is becoming more and more difficult. We wait and see that victory is true, justice and justice, or again falsehood and evil.
        1. Lexus
          Lexus 26 February 2020 14: 58 New
          +5
          “According to legal logic, this will already be like a different institution, and it is necessary to re-start the report on the presidential terms”

          They pocketed everything they could ... And then "from scratch" ... Bravo!
          It is time to nullify this power, together with the president, government, governors, deputies and their owners - oligarchs.

          "There", objectively, some "minuses" are sitting. They don't do anything good, they just "row" and drag.
          1. hydrox
            hydrox 6 March 2020 17: 30 New
            0
            Today I read this commented article and I'm sitting there, staring - the GDP should have a giant positive insider if it wants to win this election.
        2. Tatyana
          Tatyana 26 February 2020 15: 13 New
          +7
          Quote: kjhg
          It is time to nullify this power, together with the president, government, governors, deputies and their owners - oligarchs. The preservation of their power, as well as the preservation of the capital stolen by them, becomes for them the main task with the approach of the end of the presidential term and with increasing popular discontent with the existing government. They stopped thinking about other tasks long ago, although they continue to chat about them for the people. In fact - zero movements. All with anguish row gold and exported abroad, fearing an impending social explosion. But without a fight, they, the trillions taken from us, will not give up.

          On this occasion, Oleg Komolov spoke very politically and economically about the situation in the Russian Federation. I put everything on the shelves. Indeed, as long as the people are silent and tolerate, in the country for the working people on the part of the "elites", by and large, nothing will change for the better.

          The main secret of the ruling elite. Oleg Komolov • Feb 25 2020
          1. Den717
            Den717 26 February 2020 15: 40 New
            -3
            Quote: Tatiana
            I put everything on the shelves.

            He retold the compendium on Marxism-Leninism for the late 70s and turned out to be an innovator !!! Rzhunimagu ... But I would support one thesis: if you want a different state, go out and fight for it ... on the political plane ... Hey, fighters, where are you? Who was taken over in the last five years?
            1. Tatyana
              Tatyana 26 February 2020 15: 54 New
              +7
              Quote: Den717
              He retold the compendium on Marxism-Leninism for the late 70s and turned out to be an innovator !!! Rjunimagu ...
              And there is nothing to laugh here. repeat

              Firstly. NEW is, as a rule, always long forgotten OLD in applied to new historical conditions.

              And secondly. No one has yet changed or improved the Marxist-Leninist theory itself, if you mean that. Since 1986, its development and application in practice under Gorbachev in the USSR was deliberately taboo "from above"! The proletarian ideology in the USSR under Gorbat was cleared out under the bourgeois ideology of Milton Friedman (the idea of ​​the so-called "free" and "clean" world market with its monetarism) for the forthcoming change of the social system in the country.
              1. Sanichsan
                Sanichsan 26 February 2020 17: 55 New
                +2
                Quote: Tatiana
                And there is nothing to laugh here.

                on the contrary, it’s really funny already ...
                Quote: Tatiana
                Firstly. NEW is, as a rule, always long forgotten OLD in applied to new historical conditions.

                do you think today is 1900? Are you seriously??? Well, collect landless peasants whose workers are held for cattle and forced to work 16 hours a day for a scanty pay and go! to storm the Kremlin! or no one to go with? belay
                Quote: Tatiana
                And secondly. Nobody has yet changed or improved the Marxist-Leninist theory itself, if you mean it.

                in in! but 100 years have passed and the standard of living has changed, both working conditions and the social environment, and you still have the campaigns of 1917! am
                Quote: Tatiana
                The proletarian ideology in the USSR under Gorbat was cleared out under the bourgeois ideology of Milton Friedman (the idea of ​​the so-called "free" and "clean" world market with its monetarism) for the forthcoming change of the social system in the country.

                something painfully familiar .. well, of course, "the damned Bolsheviks killed everyone's beloved tsar (three times bully ) and took over the country! "
                white bakers are as nasty as the red ones! am
                1. Tatyana
                  Tatyana 26 February 2020 18: 00 New
                  0
                  Quote: SanichSan
                  something painfully familiar .. well, of course "the damned Bolsheviks killed everyone's beloved tsar (three times) and took over the country!" white crustaceans are as disgusting as red!

                  Ha! Alexander! You will not please.
                  What do you want yourself? To live on another planet?
                  1. Sanichsan
                    Sanichsan 26 February 2020 18: 10 New
                    +3
                    want? what
                    For example, I would very much like to see a sane reform program. not utopian nonsense about how everything will be taken from the bourgeoisie and fairly divided, but a sane program which through such and such changes will lead to a reduction in the stratification of society and an equitable distribution of benefits. what layers of society and what will modern communists give? in 1917, the communists promised land to peasants and factories for workers, and this was enough for people to risk their lives. what do modern communists have? what can you offer people?
                    1. Tatyana
                      Tatyana 26 February 2020 18: 24 New
                      -2
                      I have the impression that you have not learned the main secret of the "elite" in the video from Oleg Komolov's speeches. Have you listened to the video until the end? Carefully? All the answers are there.
                      1. Sanichsan
                        Sanichsan 5 March 2020 15: 55 New
                        0
                        I apologize for missing ... was busy. I won’t let you go so easily! laughing
                        Quote: Tatiana
                        I have the impression that you have not learned the main secret of the "elite" in the video from Oleg Komolov's speeches.

                        is it a secret that we have a privatized country? belay for whom?
                        Quote: Tatiana
                        Have you heard the video to the end? Carefully? There are all the answers.
                        Yes, I looked, and saw that Oleg couldn’t answer anything intelligible to the main question. who and why will be engaged in political, and maybe not only, struggle and for what?
                        he is given a good example with migrants who are not only developing, but are not even going to work, and what is he responding to? that once there in the future there will be conditions under which a person wants to develop. why??? request society to change? with what interruption if nothing is done for this?
                        he talks about helping certain people protect the square, but what's next? will these people go to save the square in the neighboring area? no. even the neighboring courtyard no longer interests them. it's a fiasco.
                        who will follow Oleg? who will embody his ideas?
                      2. The comment was deleted.
                      3. Tatyana
                        Tatyana 5 March 2020 18: 07 New
                        0
                        To propose reforms, you must first have an appropriate ideological concept. Do you have it?
                        If so, which one?
                        And then you remind me of a lady from a joke. Namely.

                        A customer comes to the hat shop and asks the saleswoman to show her something super trendy of hats.
                        Saleswoman showing her newest model hat.
                        “No,” said the customer, “no one wears this hat yet!”
                        Then the saleswoman showed her another.
                        - And everyone is wearing this! But that one is generally "old" !!! - the customer was indignant and proudly, with her nose up, left the store without any purchase.
                      4. Sanichsan
                        Sanichsan 5 March 2020 21: 07 New
                        0
                        Quote: Tatiana
                        To propose reforms, you must first have an appropriate ideological concept. Do you have it?
                        If so, which one?

                        it seems you really do not understand what I'm writing bully I have the same concept as Oleg, BUT! it is completely useless !!! yes these are just words that no one needs. right words and right thoughts are absolutely useless if they are not embodied. do you understand that in the country, decisions are not made by Oleg and there are no prospects for the opposite.
                        here you and I listened to Oleg Komolov’s video. he told us a lot of obvious and right things, and what next? but nothing.
                        The "damned regime" gives people protection of labor, gives some kind of pension, gives free medicine, free education ... what can the communists offer people so that 80% of the population vote for Komolov and not for Putin in the elections? request
                        and most importantly, what can the Communists offer to prevent their repeated decomposition? as suggested to prevent a repeat of Khrushchev, Gorbachev and the Communist Party?
                      5. Tatyana
                        Tatyana 5 March 2020 21: 38 New
                        -1
                        Quote: SanichSan
                        the "damned regime" gives people protection of labor, gives some kind of pension,
                        Go to my profile and read 2 of my articles on pension reform from 2015. I wrote everything about how everything will be. Pension reform, if people like me did not have any informational resistance, would have been introduced already in 2015! Stop by and read!
                        gives FREE medicine,
                        Does the monetary "optimization" of medicine fully contribute to this?
                        free education...
                        Tell me personally, thank you for my scientific and political review of the St. Petersburg pilot project "Education Reform-90" that the liberal authorities brought from free to paid throughout the country under Sobchak, because of which this project was not implemented throughout the country for decades forward in its baby form.
                        Thank the Communists for this, who provided me with the necessary support in this.
                        what can the Communists offer people so that 80% of the population in the elections vote for Komolov, and not for Putin?
                        Have you not noticed that we have the LIBERAL DICTATURE installed in Russia?
                      6. Sanichsan
                        Sanichsan 5 March 2020 22: 08 New
                        0
                        Quote: Tatiana
                        Go to my profile and read 2 of my articles on pension reform from 2015. I wrote everything about how everything will be.

                        fine! good
                        Quote: Tatiana
                        Tell me personally, thank you for my scientific and political review of the St. Petersburg pilot project "Education Reforms-90" from free to paid in the country already under Sobchak, because of which it was not implemented throughout the country for decades to come.
                        Thank the Communists for this, who provided me with the necessary support in this.

                        thank you. without a shadow of sarcasm. yes
                        but with all this, for people these benefits were received from the current government, not from you.
                        Quote: Tatiana
                        Have you not noticed that we have the LIBERAL DICTATURE installed in Russia?

                        What do you want to say? Is there a political qualification in the elections? yes, it seems like no. only for extremists. Or did the communists during the AUCPB and the Central Committee of the CPSU have forgotten how to participate in the political struggle? or, let's be honest, today the communists cannot offer "factories to workers! land to peasants!"
                        the fact that in Russia now the liberal dictatorship is yours ... ours! the flaw and, as a result, the success of the liberals. request why Popov, or Komolov or Zhukov do not go to power? is not their business? Are they historians and teachers?
                        Today, the Communists resemble the Socialist-Revolutionaries in 1917, and the liberals resemble the Bolsheviks in the same period.
                        what is wrong with the communist movement?
                        PS
                        and you did not answer my last question. if there is no idea how to avoid the party’s corruption, then nothing will shine for the Communists. rely on those who once destroyed the country and have no idea how to avoid it again, a very dubious idea. yes What is better than monarchists? request
                      7. Tatyana
                        Tatyana 6 March 2020 00: 07 New
                        0
                        Quote: SanichSan
                        or, let's be honest, today the communists cannot offer "factories to workers! land to peasants!"

                        And we have practically no trade unions in the Russian Federation. 30 million of the 83 million working population work for private owners without official registration - they simply survive - and they will remain without pensions at all.
                        The proletariat in the country is disunited, since the former large enterprises are bankrupt or privatized and resold to foreigners, or re-profiled into commercial centers, etc., or simply stand in ruin. And the so-called. "office" plankton is also divided.
                        Moreover, in the Russian labor market there is a quantitative dominance of the so-called. foreign "labor" migrants who dump the salaries of Russians in the country and lead to the marginalization of the Russian population. Russians are also leaving the country, especially young people. And with foreign migrants, what protests of the Russian proletariat for the Russians, which, in fact, is actually in Russia, as it was before, can be in the Russian Federation? None.
                        Quote: SanichSan
                        the fact that in Russia now the liberal dictatorship is yours ... ours!
                        Again you are for yours - you chew the same gum! Not tired of trolling?
                        Quote: SanichSan
                        the fact that in Russia now the liberal dictatorship is yours ... ours! the flaw and, as a result, the success of the liberals. why Popov, or Komolov or Zhukov do not go to power? is not their business? Are they historians and teachers?
                        What are you doing, what are you asking from others? Nobody owes you anything?
                        M.V. Popov is already a man of old age and what he does is still expensive. There are few such personal ones. He has his own party - join it and go to power! Who personally bothers you with this? Then you will not ask stupid questions. I don’t know Zhukov. I can evaluate Komolov’s activity as a politician - I’m not personally acquainted with him.
                        Quote: SanichSan
                        Today, the Communists resemble the Socialist-Revolutionaries in 1917.
                        Right, I agree. The Communist Party is a party of missed opportunities.,
                        and liberals on the Bolsheviks in the same period
                        only in the sense of establishing DICTATURE, bourgeoisie and foreign interventionists to eliminate Russia.
                        Quote: SanichSan
                        and you did not answer my last question. if there is no idea how to avoid the party’s corruption, then nothing will shine for the Communists. rely on those who once destroyed the country and have no idea how to avoid it again, a very dubious idea. What is better than monarchists?

                        In m / l theory there are theoretical errors that need to be fixed. But communist dogmas do not go for it. The leadership of the Communist Parties categorically do not want to admit it. Therefore, nothing without a normal, internally logically consistent theory, they can’t put together a new party, and the old ones discredited themselves.
                      8. Sanichsan
                        Sanichsan 6 March 2020 01: 35 New
                        0
                        Quote: Tatiana
                        And we have practically no trade unions in the Russian Federation. 30 million of the 83 million working population work for private owners without official registration - they simply survive - and they will remain without pensions at all.

                        do not exaggerate. I’ve been working for private traders all my life and I have always been issued at least in gray, and in some places in white RFP. Yes, they will receive a minimum pension on sulfur, but it will. and by the way, what prevents the working people from taking a white look, apart from their own, very short-sighted greed? request it is worth noting that if the worker wants to take out in white, then the state will be on the side of the worker.
                        Quote: Tatiana
                        And the so-called. "office" plankton is also divided.
                        in! Are you a theorist? Formulate a basis for uniting this population group and it will be a big deal! much larger than the repeated repetition of the dogmas of a hundred years ago. yes
                        Quote: Tatiana
                        What are you doing, what are you asking from others? Nobody owes you anything?

                        absolutely right. is not obliged to. but idle talk annoys me and I have every right to express my dissatisfaction. I wrote my arguments above. or do you want to take responsibility to decide who can point out the shortcomings of today's communist idea and who doesn’t? Is the burden too heavy? wink
                        Quote: Tatiana
                        He has his own party - join it and go to power! Who personally bothers you with this?

                        probably it bothers me that I'm not a politician. I am a marketing economist by training and based on my knowledge and real state of affairs, I point out to modern Communists in general, and to you in particular, that you do not have a target audience and action plan. Does it annoy you? sorry but this is the reality request
                        Quote: Tatiana
                        only in the sense of establishing DICTATURE, bourgeoisie and foreign interventionists to eliminate Russia.
                        this is exactly what he had in mind. well, at least in allegories we understood each other laughing
                        Quote: Tatiana
                        In m / l theory there are theoretical errors that need to be fixed. But communist dogmas do not go for it.

                        you are a reasonable person, do you understand that this is one of the basic points without which everything else is of little importance? if there is no understanding how to create a stable, self-regulatory structure, then what's the point of spending resources on this? I am ready for discussion on this issue, but my personal thoughts have come to a standstill. the most obvious option is to assign control responsibilities to the special services, but we know how this ends with the example of 37 years ... we need a different solution.
                      9. Tatyana
                        Tatyana 6 March 2020 01: 46 New
                        -1
                        Have you ever seen servicemen and talked with them on such issues? They are the same section of society that everyone else is.
                      10. Sanichsan
                        Sanichsan 6 March 2020 14: 51 New
                        -1
                        Quote: Tatiana
                        Have you ever seen servicemen and talked with them on such issues?

                        I have friends, but did not discuss. and there’s nothing to discuss.
                        it will be necessary to attract servants, if only for the reason that these are the only structures that have experience in dealing with internal destructive processes, but these are details. tool. personally, I still can’t formulate the structure itself .. who is responsible to whom and what will prevent it from violating or circumventing this responsibility ..
                        Well, for example, if the procedure for recalling deputies is adopted, what will prevent deputies from canceling this procedure at the first meeting?
                        Quote: Tatiana
                        They are the same section of society that everyone else is.

                        that, yes not that ... the state made a lot of efforts so that the military and special services would feel obliged to the existing power, and not to some abstract people there ... well, this is a separate big topic.
                      11. Tatyana
                        Tatyana 6 March 2020 15: 26 New
                        +1
                        Quote: SanichSan
                        who is responsible to whom and what will prevent them from violating or circumventing this responsibility .. well, for example, if the procedure for recalling deputies is adopted, what will prevent deputies from canceling this procedure at the first meeting?
                        None! For deputies protect their personal interests in the State Duma two steps forward. The deputies of the State Duma of the Russian Federation have just rejected an amendment to the Constitution of the Russian Federation to ban them from owning their property abroad.
                        Quote: SanichSan
                        Quote: Tatiana
                        They are the same section of society that everyone else is.
                        that, but not that ... the state made a lot of efforts so that the military and special services felt themselves obligated to the existing government, and not to some abstract people there ... well, this is a separate big topic
                        I had in mind the decline in the general level of education and changes in the political worldview.
                        As for the officers, yes, a caste of the military estate and the security forces are forming in society, supporting the current liberal power. In this I absolutely agree with you. I see live that the military do not understand and do not want to understand ordinary civilians. They live - compared to civilians - in a different dimension.
                      12. Sanichsan
                        Sanichsan 6 March 2020 16: 03 New
                        0
                        Quote: Tatiana
                        None! For deputies protect their personal interests in the State Duma two steps forward. The deputies of the State Duma of the Russian Federation have just rejected an amendment to the Constitution of the Russian Federation to ban them from owning their property abroad.

                        Well, now it’s clear that no one wassat I would be incredibly surprised if the deputies now adopted something like that ...
                        you need a plan to take action! but it is not yet. engineers and programmers have such a saying "no TK - the result is HZ" wink we are now talking about the terms of reference for the formation of communist power.
                        issues such as gaining a majority in parliament, how to gain access to leverage, are more or less understood and widely covered in theoretical literature and supplemented with practical examples. Internet to help us! wink but the question I asked you still remains unanswered. request

                        if you have ideas on this issue, I will be immensely grateful to you if you share your thoughts with me, in turn, I promise to inform you of your ideas on this issue, if any. well, or I’ll find some kind of source with ideas on this matter ...
  • hydrox
    hydrox 26 February 2020 21: 07 New
    -1
    Quote: SanichSan
    a sound program which, through such and such changes, will lead to a reduction in the stratification of society and an equitable distribution of benefits.

    I can offer a little chip, which AGAIN will not please the oligarchy and the Duma, but from this they (and Mishustin !!) will have nowhere to go.
    It will only be necessary to loop the owner’s income and employee’s salary with a simple rule: the higher the payroll tax, the lower the tax on it, while the income should not exceed the payroll tax - then income taxes will be equal to the payroll tax - that's social justice for you. Funds for accumulation, innovation, depreciation, etc., etc. - let Mishustin think about their taxation, he is special in this matter.
    laughing
    And yes :: dividends are abolished, instead of them are payments based on the results of the year and only after payment of all taxes with the mandatory presence of PROFIT (only payments from it are paid according to the results of the year) :: worked in minus - SID IN ZERO !!!
    1. Sanichsan
      Sanichsan 5 March 2020 21: 19 New
      -1
      Quote: hydrox
      I can offer a little chip, which AGAIN will not please the oligarchy and the Duma, but from this they (and Mishustin !!) will have nowhere to go.

      cool! good and who will do it? what is there a strong faction in government capable of making such a decision? No.
      understand, the problem is not that they do not know what to do, the problem is that there is no one to do it. those who make decisions are interested in something completely different and reflect the interests of other groups of the population. sorry, but your suggestions are as realistic as a take-and-share ballpoint. both are just dreams. request
    2. hydrox
      hydrox 6 March 2020 08: 55 New
      0
      Dreams; not dreams (by the way, in this matter I stand much higher than the GDP - it needs it, but I don’t!): the result (whatever, it doesn’t matter!) can only be given by a status-deprived one (and, therefore, NOT GIVING legitimacy to the so-called " nationwide vote ", which does not have law enforcement when voting on constitutionally significant issues (which have legitimacy and the right to decide only during the REFERENDUM).
      And I do not care how many terms will be allotted to the GDP (even when zeroing, even when adding), but it can become Caesar (popularly recognized!) Only if 3 conditions are met:
      1. An appeal to the people with the recognition of the people as a source of power in Russia.
      2. The abolition of the cannibalistic law on pension reform, recognizing the fact that this is a requirement of the IMF (liberoids, oligarchy ...), and with appropriate repentance to the people.
      3. Announcement of its International Program (at least on one page!).
      And that's it!
      So little is required of GDP!
      Otherwise, the people simply will not come to the polls and the adopted (they will still be called ACCEPTED!) Amendments will be deprived of the proper force
    3. Sanichsan
      Sanichsan 6 March 2020 14: 36 New
      0
      Quote: hydrox
      1. An appeal to the people with the recognition of the people as a source of power in Russia.
      2. The abolition of the cannibalistic law on pension reform, recognizing the fact that this is a requirement of the IMF (liberoids, oligarchy ...), and with appropriate repentance to the people.
      3. Announcement of its International Program (at least on one page!).
      And that's it!

      great! but he will not do it, and his receiver will not be with you either, I and Tatyana have no way to force him to do this. request
      Quote: hydrox
      Otherwise, the people simply will not come to the polls and the adopted (they will still be called ACCEPTED!) Amendments will be deprived of the proper force

      will come, and again you can’t do anything about it .. personally, you probably won’t go, but the remaining 40-50% of the population, and maybe more, will go and you will be out of work. request in this case, not participating is a very unreasonable move. they give you an instrument of influence, but you refuse it, thereby fully supporting the decision that you made without you. yes
    4. hydrox
      hydrox 6 March 2020 17: 17 New
      0
      You were CAPTURED with an old, like the world, democratic bait :: You did not read the election regulation badly, but it says that "Changes will be considered adopted if more than half of the VOTING voters vote for them."
      At the same time, no one will NEVER prove HOW many voters actually voted "FOR", as well as how many voters have come to the polling stations.
      And since the people are extremely angry at the authorities for the cannibalistic reform, then, accordingly, the electoral activity will be weak.
  • Den717
    Den717 26 February 2020 19: 05 New
    +2
    Quote: Tatiana
    And there is nothing to laugh here.

    Do you understand, Tatyana, the issue and rzhaka are not in essence the very theory of Marx. But because there is no one to embody these ideas. And the part that was realized was smashed to smithereens about the imperfection of human nature. The hungry are dissatisfied with the well-fed, but becoming well-fed begin to hate the hungry. Impose this formula on 1900, 1970, 2000 - nothing has changed. Being determines consciousness. So it was, and it will be so for a very long time. Therefore, Zu does not go in worn boots and does not drive a domestic car. The communist idea is good, but the hope of its realization is utopian. And the practice of life in the USSR has confirmed this.
    1. Tatyana
      Tatyana 26 February 2020 19: 26 New
      +1
      In this we are close in understanding. In general, I consider the CPSU and the Communist Party parties of missed opportunities. And you know why? Because the Communists do not see methodological errors in building m / l theory from the standpoint of the dialectical materialist method itself. And the Communists themselves do not really competently use this method.
      M / l theory was logically contradictory internally from the very beginning of its creation by K. Marx. And it’s so contradictory that I don’t even consider Marx to be sincere about the announcement of the ultimate strategic goal of the very idea of ​​creating Marxism - namely, the construction of communism.
      I will not extend this topic to you, because without philosophical preparation you will not be able to understand this in a nutshell, and I cannot explain it to you in spirit.
      It was on the correction of these methodological errors in the Marxist-Leninist theory with Gorbachev's coming to power that a ban was imposed "from above" in 1986. This information I have from communication in 1989 with the head of the Department of Philosophy of the Russian Academy of Sciences of the USSR.
      1. Den717
        Den717 26 February 2020 19: 39 New
        0
        Quote: Tatiana
        without philosophical preparation you will not be able to understand this in a nutshell

        I already tensed ... laughing But here
        Quote: Tatiana
        That's the correction of these methodological errors with the advent of Gorbachev to power and a ban was imposed in 1986.

        What are the "mistakes with the arrival of Gorbachev"? What are you talking about? Maybe you are the KFN, but you yourself do not understand that you are fence ... By the time Gorbachev came, the communist idea in the USSR had already been a rotten corpse for a long time. The idea fell ill at the end of Stalin, and under Khrushchev it died after a long and painful illness of managerial voluntarism. Already Brezhnev left a rotten mausoleum from the idea. What kind of prohibition on correcting errors can we talk about, and by whom? Members of the Central Committee and Politburo? You see, you lived in a professor's family and did not see the earth under your feet. Or have learned to a clinical state. Sorry.
        1. Tatyana
          Tatyana 26 February 2020 19: 44 New
          0
          Well, everything is clear with you. I tell you about Thomas, you tell me about Yeryoma.
          We diverge.
          1. Den717
            Den717 27 February 2020 05: 54 New
            0
            Quote: Tatiana
            We diverge.

            Finally. I myself consider Marxism to be the most theoretically grounded doctrine that has not lost its relevance in the modern world. But with an abundance of theoreticians, it is very weak both in our country and in the rest of the world with the practice of implementing this doctrine. "It's dry theory, my friend, but the tree of life is lushly green." It is in this greenery that we got lost (and not only we).
    2. T.Henks
      T.Henks 27 February 2020 09: 40 New
      0
      About worn boots you are cool! I myself saw holey socks at the most important IMF Wulfinson in the mosque. And nothing, he did not take a steam bath from this. He even saved on this, because his own money! It’s not a place that colors a person, but a person a place! (prof proverb painter)
      1. Den717
        Den717 27 February 2020 09: 57 New
        0
        Quote: T.Henks
        About worn boots you are cool!

        For those who did not quite understand, I hinted at the asceticism of Joseph Vissarionovich, no more ...
  • Killemall
    Killemall 26 February 2020 16: 14 New
    -3
    Gee ... it's time for me to do a downgrade myself, otherwise I’ve grown to the foreman laughing laughing I’ll declare it loudly, so to speak ... publicly ... AND WOULD IT BE WELL HEALTH WOULD IF PUTIN BE POSSIBLE TO CHOOSE UNLESS INFINITY !!! I would only vote for him. laughing laughing laughing
    Amen!!! bully
    1. Killemall
      Killemall 26 February 2020 16: 38 New
      -2
      more active gentlemen !!!
    2. Cheerock
      Cheerock 26 February 2020 17: 11 New
      +1
      But figs you, catch a plus wassat
      1. Killemall
        Killemall 26 February 2020 21: 04 New
        +1
        for this you are now throwing minuses. laughing hate and putinhaters they are so ... wassat
  • Russian_man
    Russian_man 26 February 2020 16: 21 New
    -2
    timely statement
  • polar fox
    polar fox 26 February 2020 17: 15 New
    -1
    Quote: kjhg
    In fact - zero movements.

    yes ... the "guarantor" talk about social payments confirms this. No orders and orders came to the social security agency.
  • Vovan
    Vovan 26 February 2020 17: 23 New
    -8
    Yeah, once I heard it: where now have the previous authorities been reset to zero? And where are those who are reset? All the words on the old agitation? Maybe instead of verbiage, you’ll do something? For example, a concrete - with facts, not speculation - denunciation of those same gold rowers? Fortunately, now you can’t buy it without a mat. Or scratch your tongue - do not toss bags?
  • cost
    cost 26 February 2020 14: 23 New
    +2
    Surkov's proposal "On zeroing the presidential term" is a desire to express loyalty, justify himself and create self-PR around the constitutional changes.
    1. hydrox
      hydrox 26 February 2020 15: 39 New
      +8
      Here the problem is different: while this is being done behind the scenes and the amendments are still shuffled, like a deck of cards (despite the fact that the population does not know ANYTHING about the amendments and DOES NOT DISCUSS IT (and WHO is discussing?), These amendments can be made in any edition and in any configuration, and we will remain "nothing".
      At the same time, the amendments do not apply to those stolen in the 90s, they do not apply to nationalization of mineral resources and the fuel and energy complex, they do not touch the Forest, Land and Water Codes, lawlessness is not discussed with housing and communal services tariffs, there is no progressive income tax on parasitic entities, and priority of sovereign rights over imports is not discussed. ..
      How would we not be left "with vignettes and roses", but without trousers, with the priority of public services over public functions.
  • Svarog
    Svarog 26 February 2020 15: 36 New
    +8
    Meanwhile, there are opinions on the network that Surkov’s statement about the hyper-presidential republic and the possibility of starting the countdown of tenure in the presidential chair from the beginning is “for good reason.”

    Of course, it’s for good reason and changes to the Constitution are also good for nothing .. and the speed with which all this is done is also good for nothing ..
  • The comment was deleted.
  • Loess
    Loess 26 February 2020 14: 14 New
    +4
    "According to legal logic, this will already be like a different institution, and it is necessary to re-start the report on the presidential terms."
    The institute is different, but the country will remain the same, so all this nonsense. Although verbal battles will now unfold not comic.
  • Karaul73
    Karaul73 26 February 2020 14: 14 New
    10
    Imagine if there were only one Zhukov in the Second World War from the generals? How would he do well on all fronts? It may already be enough to cling to the throne in the Kremlin. What, there are no talents and clever goals in Russia besides Putin? I do not believe. Give others a way. Give fresh air to politics in Russia.
    1. Siberian
      Siberian 26 February 2020 14: 26 New
      -6
      Yes, Putin himself is not so bad, but he is illegible in friendly relations and is not able to choose advisers.
      1. Leha667
        Leha667 26 February 2020 14: 38 New
        +4
        Tell me who your friend is, and I will say who you are.
      2. Den717
        Den717 26 February 2020 15: 03 New
        -5
        Quote: Siberian
        can not choose advisers.

        Do you know the person under discussion as an advisor? I’m serious, can anyone, other than empty, say that he was doing something, but not in the right way. He gave the wrong advice, but it was necessary to be like this. Well, at least something specific. And then all you write some kind of crap ..... Why? Chechen roots not to your liking? Well, tell me - he's a stranger, that's why I don't like it ..
        1. cniza
          cniza 26 February 2020 15: 12 New
          +1
          This is not possible, he was always in the shadows, only one thing is known - he is the author and creator of the modern political system and situation.
          1. Den717
            Den717 26 February 2020 15: 41 New
            -4
            Quote: cniza
            It is not possible, he was always in the shade

            Why is he so "disliked" ?!
            1. cniza
              cniza 26 February 2020 15: 45 New
              0
              And who loves the unknown? He is a very competent, pedantic and punctual person - that’s what is known about him.
              1. Den717
                Den717 26 February 2020 15: 46 New
                -2
                Quote: cniza
                And who loves the unknown?

                It is difficult to love the unknown, but it is "not loved" very actively. You can say - with passion ...
                1. cniza
                  cniza 26 February 2020 15: 48 New
                  -1
                  I do not agree, I would say that this is a manifestation of envy ...
                  1. Den717
                    Den717 26 February 2020 15: 53 New
                    -3
                    Quote: cniza
                    I would say that this is a manifestation of envy ...

                    Oh, here they are, these "truth-tellers" from VO ?!
                    1. cniza
                      cniza 26 February 2020 16: 00 New
                      +1
                      Everyone expresses his opinion, on the basis of his own considerations, though it is generally not one, there are always several ...
                      1. Den717
                        Den717 26 February 2020 18: 54 New
                        +2
                        Quote: cniza
                        Everyone expresses his opinion, on the basis of his own considerations, though it is generally not one, there are always several ...

                        Some have such truths that they cannot express themselves in the mirror. But here, in the open spaces of the peak of civilization's thought about oneself, one can dream up such a thing and stigmatize everyone who "thinks not like me." You can imagine yourself to be a great clever girl and give advice to cosmic dimness. Nick will endure everything, it's not a specific Ivan Ivanovich, you won't have to blush for his opinion. laughing
                      2. cniza
                        cniza 26 February 2020 19: 01 New
                        +2
                        Let it be on everyone’s conscience ...
        2. hydrox
          hydrox 26 February 2020 15: 47 New
          +1
          And who said that he did everything well and right?
          Indeed, in order to choose the right path to the future, one must very well imagine this very future: how it looks, from whom and what it consists of, who should become a beneficiary, how this benefit should look like, which will be spelled out in the Educational Code, Code Health, what should be this health and education, who obeys whom and why he does it and under the influence of what laws ...
          And on "NO" and there is no trial ...
          And if he didn’t want to make a mistake, he would have got a full convoy of advisers (well, one cannot know EVERYTHING), but the main thing is that people would be designated everywhere as a source of power, without this I DO NOT BELIEVE !!!
          1. cniza
            cniza 26 February 2020 15: 51 New
            +1
            Indeed, in order to choose the right path to the future, one must very well imagine this very future


            And who can it ... "if he knew the purchase - he would live in Sochi" ...
            1. hydrox
              hydrox 26 February 2020 22: 15 New
              -1
              Quote: cniza
              And who can it ... "if he knew the purchase - he would live in Sochi" ...

              But you don’t know - don’t poke around :: and if you poke around, so consult and study :: maybe, to make one decision, such as canceling the cannibalistic pension reform, he will have to go to such a decision a year - but you still need to go and cancel, otherwise people will not go to the vote !!!!
            2. hydrox
              hydrox 28 February 2020 05: 05 New
              +1
              Quote: cniza
              And who can it ... "if he knew the purchase - he would live in Sochi" ...

              Only such an algorithm of actions does not suit Putin: he is still a statesman, and not a sharpie-type catcher like Zelik ...
          2. Den717
            Den717 26 February 2020 15: 51 New
            -3
            Quote: hydrox
            And who said that he did everything well and right?

            And can argue the opposite? Moreover, the principle of the presumption of innocence works for us. Want to dunk a character in manure, first say - for what? Filed - Prove it ...
            1. 2 Level Advisor
              2 Level Advisor 26 February 2020 18: 58 New
              -1
              By your logic, Den .. From the population of the country access to real, accurate information (confirmed exactly as you say the facts) is in a very small percentage of the population, those who enter the Kremlin .. but they are definitely not going to share it with everyone .. Accordingly, the rest have no facts, but there is a brain and logic to draw conclusions. BUT! In your opinion, it’S LITTLE .. following your logic, the country's population (except those entering the Kremlin) does not need to know and think about what is happening in the country, since they have no facts.
              Well then, fine, your logic is ideal for a dumb herd who wonders where the shepherd leads, because that’s what your logic brings to it, and Den?
              1. Den717
                Den717 26 February 2020 19: 27 New
                0
                Quote: Level 2 Advisor
                Accordingly, the rest have no facts, but there is a brain and logic to draw conclusions.

                The dumb herd does not follow the shepherd, for all together it will pave the way for itself and with it will be able to carry away the especially tired. Stupid are individual representatives of the herd, seeking to divide it into small groups and unleash a conflict between them in order to occupy a more convenient place in the general herd. About your logic. If there are no facts, then no logic will help to draw conclusions. This is one of the rules of formal logic, as a science transmitted to us by the ancient Greeks. You can invent your own logic, but will it help you in life? It is good to discuss someone unfamiliar and distant with your statements. And imagine yourself in the role of such a discussion. When you are unfamiliar with people who are not of your value to society, will accuse you of all sins only on the basis that you have not proved to them that you are sinless and useful to them. How do you like this situation? After all, they also have a brain, and they do not consider themselves a dumb herd. Will it be better for you?
                Quote: Level 2 Advisor
                Your logic is perfect for a dumb herd

                My logic is to adhere to the presumption of innocence. And if you think that you have a brain, and you want to discuss the same Surkov, then try from what is on this person in various sources, get acquainted with his work, only then you will find facts on the basis of which you can have your own opinion about this person.
                1. 2 Level Advisor
                  2 Level Advisor 27 February 2020 06: 55 New
                  0
                  Hmm .. Den, with such a tracking, I already agree in many ways hi I’m not talking about Surkov anymore, this is not the first time we have been conducting a dialogue .. I’m rather talking about the general background of your comments, since you always demand facts, including illegal acts. This in itself is normal, but I’m saying that in some areas discussed here - there can be no reliable (direct) facts for the average person due to the secrecy of information, but this does not mean that his value judgment is necessarily false, if based on indirect facts .. Now, I have become clearer about your position and I agree - in terms of individuals trying to get settled at the expense of others .. But on the other hand, it is nature and not only man ..
                  Namely about Surkov, I have nothing special to say, since I don't even have indirect facts .. Except, perhaps, that he is the ideologist of protecting the system of governing the country, which must not be completely broken, of course, but in places "reinstall, reconfigure, clean "it didn’t hurt .. But he has such a job that it makes little sense to present the" performer "..
                  1. Den717
                    Den717 27 February 2020 07: 16 New
                    -1
                    Quote: Level 2 Advisor
                    I was no longer talking about Surkov

                    But I, too, am not personally for Surkov. I set out my position in principle. Blame it - prove it. And I do not quite agree with your message that
                    Quote: Level 2 Advisor
                    there can be no reliable (direct) facts from the layman because of the confidentiality of information

                    And we can partly agree with "indirect" information. But if the "direct" texture is understandable by itself, if it exists, then more indirect information is needed from various sources. The persona of Surkov or Mutko appears only as an example of how we sometimes indiscriminately, without knowing the essence, try to hang labels on a specific person. That is why I suggested that journalists, for example, with the same Mutko, spend some time to understand the essence of his work and assess his relevance for his post. Nothing complicated. By this I mean the essence of the work of professional journalists - to identify problem areas and delve into a problem, and then reveal it to the reader. But either I did not clearly show my position, or some writers have a different task in principle. And about Surkov yesterday, Kurginyan spoke briefly but succinctly at Solovyov's. He has known him since the beginning of the 90s, it makes sense to listen.
            2. hydrox
              hydrox 26 February 2020 22: 24 New
              +1
              The presumption of innocence only works where the law covers the entire field of activity with a single and without holes (like a radar shield SPRN).
              And if the law is through a stump-deck ("" here to play, here not to play, here the fish was wrapped ... ", then what do you want from him in the management of the state ??
              And the presumption you mentioned turns into a stinky wind steam ...
              1. Den717
                Den717 27 February 2020 05: 46 New
                0
                Quote: hydrox
                And the presumption you mentioned turns into a stinky wind steam ...

                Smelly, as you say, steam comes from people discussing the subject without having the slightest idea about it. The legal field does not fall from the sky without holes. It has been created for many years. Presumptions are laid down from the outset. The fact that you are talking about the law "through the tree stump", while the human factor is not removed from the judicial system, there will always be questions for law enforcement. And not because it is bad, but because no solution will satisfy all sides of the conflict being resolved in court. But, in particular, in criminal proceedings, the overwhelming number of sentences after delivery are not even challenged, i.e. accepted by the parties. There are also illegal sentences, but their proportion is not great. And the fact that public tranquility is observed in the country suggests that the legal system, with some of its shortcomings, still works for the benefit of this (our) society, which, by the way, is also imperfect.
                1. hydrox
                  hydrox 27 February 2020 21: 24 New
                  0
                  I am not in the habit of putting the cart in front of the horse, and since I am not a liberal, I do not intend to punish a thought, but I also do not intend to forgive "action vs inaction (and vice versa).
                  By the way, "logic" is "the beginning of mathematics".
      3. Doctor
        Doctor 26 February 2020 15: 41 New
        +1
        I’m serious, can anyone say anything besides the empty bag - he was doing something, but not in the right way.

        And you remember what he was responsible for in recent years.
        1. Den717
          Den717 26 February 2020 15: 44 New
          -3
          Quote: Arzt
          And you remember what he was responsible for in recent years.

          Can you, without Israeli manners, ask a question? Is there anything concrete to present to the master?
          1. Doctor
            Doctor 26 February 2020 16: 16 New
            0
            Is there anything concrete to present to the master?

            We will wait until March 9th.
        2. Romey
          Romey 26 February 2020 21: 52 New
          +1
          At a glance. Supervised Ederasovsky youth offices. Failure. The concept of "sovereign democracy". Failure. The concept of edimoy Russia as a party in power. Failure. Supervised relations with neighboring countries. The result is on the face. And as the pinnacle of its sabotage activities - Donbass with all its mmmchikov and a worsened copy of the political and economic realities of the Russian Federation.
          1. Den717
            Den717 27 February 2020 07: 18 New
            +1
            Quote: romey
            The concept of "sovereign democracy". Failure.

            Why don't you mention the history of his participation in Operation Crimea? Here is the result on the world map. laughing Yes, your assessment is not yet the view of the Lord in the last resort ...
            1. Romey
              Romey 27 February 2020 07: 41 New
              +1
              Actually, the operation of Crimea is far from complete. When we force the partners to officially recognize this, then throw the bonnets into the air.
              1. Den717
                Den717 27 February 2020 09: 06 New
                0
                Quote: romey
                When we force the partners to officially recognize this, then throw the bonnets into the air.

                And what have "partners" to do with it? They will remember this for another 50 years. This is a point, first of all, a strategic one, and only then a socio-political one. Strategic interests are met. The fleet is standing still, the necessary elements of defense-response have been delivered. The country's interests are protected. Recognition of "partners" is desirable, but not paramount.
                1. Romey
                  Romey 27 February 2020 11: 33 New
                  0
                  Of course, the partners have nothing to do with it ... But the interests of those close to the body and not very wealthy and influential people are very important.
      4. Siberian
        Siberian 28 February 2020 12: 00 New
        0
        Yes, I’m not pr Surkov, in fact, but about Putin and the government, whose work he was always so pleased with. About Matvienko with St. Petersburg roots, during her time in power she killed as many people as icicles as she did not kill all over the country, for this she became chairman of the Federation Council. About all the advisers attached when I had to get out from everywhere. And what are you fixating on Surkov. I don’t even consider him a significant figure at all with any roots, I really don’t see anything that he would have done (or did not).
        1. Den717
          Den717 28 February 2020 14: 32 New
          0
          Quote: Siberian
          Yes, I am not Surkov

          An article about Surkov. He is a former counselor. You reprimanded Putin for not knowing how to choose his own advisers. Can you trace the thread of thought? And besides, Putin can be seen precisely in the affairs of his advisers. They are his working organs. If you're not happy with his advisors, how is he "not so bad"? What does Matvienko have to do with it? She was not an adviser to Putin. Something not entirely clear was mixed ... And Putin is not particularly interesting to me in the context of the article. And he wrote about us, regulars of the VO. About how we "do not know the ford, poke into the water", namely, we are trying to discuss a person, it does not matter - Surkov, Ivanov, Mutko, completely unaware of what he is doing, what he should, and what he has achieved. Moreover, our judgments are often pejorative in nature, which we are unable to substantiate. And this causes some misunderstanding, how did the "most reading people" come to the state of an insane gossip? And "sucked" yes, they are falling. Sometimes this is the fault of the management staff, sometimes we ourselves go behind the red flags in the hope of chance. And this happened not only with Matvienko at the head, but also with all the other mayors.
    2. Whalebone
      Whalebone 26 February 2020 15: 26 New
      +3
      Surkov at Khodorkovsky began, if anyone does not remember.
      1. Den717
        Den717 26 February 2020 15: 32 New
        -2
        Quote: Whalebone
        Surkov at Khodorkovsky began

        And finished with Putin. And what does this have to say?
        1. Whalebone
          Whalebone 26 February 2020 20: 11 New
          0
          Single field berries
    3. Overlock
      Overlock 26 February 2020 21: 25 New
      +2
      Quote: Siberian
      Yes, Putin himself is not so bad

      old, takes his age: he promised a lot and did not fulfill. Sclerosis is damned!
  • cniza
    cniza 26 February 2020 15: 18 New
    +2
    Quote: Sentry73
    What, there are no talents and clever goals in Russia besides Putin? I do not believe. Give others a way. Give fresh air to politics in Russia.


    You are right in many respects, but when you start looking at history ... Russia experienced the most difficult times during the periods of change of rulers and today nothing has changed. How to make a painless transition, maintain stability and develop? So far, no answers to these questions have been seen, therefore we live by the principle - "why do we need a new chairman ..."
    1. Whalebone
      Whalebone 26 February 2020 15: 27 New
      +3
      Enough to simply comply with the law. Everything is written already. But no. The law is for slaves. The bar on the concepts of living.
      1. cniza
        cniza 26 February 2020 15: 39 New
        +1
        You are probably very young ... it is difficult for us to enforce laws, especially by our authorities ...
    2. Crystal of Truth
      Crystal of Truth 26 February 2020 15: 33 New
      -2
      You just need to regularly change the rulers. Then there will be no upheaval ..
      1. cniza
        cniza 26 February 2020 15: 41 New
        +1
        If you profess what you have on a T-shirt (avatar) then it turns out that you want to change through revolutions, but the vast majority do not want this and I think they will not allow it.
        1. Crystal of Truth
          Crystal of Truth 26 February 2020 16: 46 New
          0
          So the revolution, they do not happen from Wishlist and from the conditions ..
          At first there was a monarchy that did not want to share power and we lost the Empire ..
          Then the decrepit leaders of the CPSU, old age incapable of change, who in three years, three went into another world and we lost the USSR ..
          It would seem possible to draw conclusions
          1. cniza
            cniza 26 February 2020 17: 09 New
            +2
            And why do you not take into account external factors that played a decisive role in both tragedies, first the fall of the Empire, and then the USSR.
            1. Crystal of Truth
              Crystal of Truth 26 February 2020 17: 19 New
              -1
              But one does not interfere with the other
              1. cniza
                cniza 26 February 2020 17: 30 New
                +3
                At first there was a monarchy that did not want to share power and we lost the Empire ..


                The tsar denied, there was a Duma, but the Germans still carried out the collapse of Russia ...

                Then the decrepit leaders of the CPSU, old age incapable of change


                This is so, but 17 US institutes worked tirelessly, though Gorbachev alone did everything and he was not decrepit ...
            2. Crystal of Truth
              Crystal of Truth 26 February 2020 17: 27 New
              -1
              Well, you yourself then think about it .. A huge country, 16 republics are completely different .. How can it be managed from a hospital bed?
              First, Brezhnev and then Andropov with Chernenko .. And what under such leaders subordinates did?
              The struggle for future power and only ..
              Here is a ready-made soil for "external conditions"
              1. cniza
                cniza 26 February 2020 17: 35 New
                +3
                And who was the last? Who did the most for the collapse of the USSR, or rather, just betrayed ...
                1. Crystal of Truth
                  Crystal of Truth 26 February 2020 17: 47 New
                  -2
                  And here, quite possibly, you are mistaken ..
                  Just imagine a man goes to the hospital .. And the doctor walks him anecdotes for a year, says that everything is fine ..
                  What kind of vitamins pricks, then yes ..
                  And then another comes and screams, urgently for an operation ..
                  But late .. There are already metastases throughout the body ..
                  So it is with the state ..
                2. Crystal of Truth
                  Crystal of Truth 26 February 2020 17: 48 New
                  0
                  And the first doctor was such a darling .. And the second stabbed
                  1. cniza
                    cniza 26 February 2020 17: 51 New
                    +2
                    All the same, you live by the formula of your avatar ...
                    1. Crystal of Truth
                      Crystal of Truth 26 February 2020 19: 58 New
                      -1
                      Well, I don’t pretend to be the truth .. I just suggest you look at the story somewhat differently
                3. Whalebone
                  Whalebone 26 February 2020 20: 14 New
                  +1
                  Read the memoirs of Chernyaev. The country was seriously ill already in the early 70s. The quality of management decisions was lower than the plinth.
                  1. cniza
                    cniza 27 February 2020 08: 50 New
                    +2
                    Unfortunately, irreversible processes started much earlier ...
      2. figwam
        figwam 26 February 2020 16: 09 New
        0
        Quote: Crystal of Truth
        You just need to regularly change the rulers. Then there will be no upheaval ..

        Let your clowns be regularly selected and live in your pigsty without us.
    3. hydrox
      hydrox 26 February 2020 16: 06 New
      -3
      Here you are ready to accept that Putin made only one mistake, but fatal: in 20 years he could not build a powerful (and at the same time flexible!), Mobile, but strong, authoritarian, but collegial system of power and this system should have one important feature :: ideologically, the system should repeat the Millennium Russian Empire, otherwise the pluralism of opinions will destroy Russia - too heavy clouds have thickened over us ...
      1. cniza
        cniza 26 February 2020 16: 10 New
        +3
        mobile, but strong, authoritarian, but collegial system of power


        As you imagine it, here or or ...

        ideologically, the system should repeat the Millennium Russian Empire,


        And what was the ideology of 1000 years?
        1. hydrox
          hydrox 26 February 2020 22: 09 New
          +1
          Elementary Watson!
          A division of boyar advisors and the final blow with a staff: "I said!"
          1. cniza
            cniza 27 February 2020 08: 57 New
            +2
            This is window dressing and why feed the extra ...
            1. hydrox
              hydrox 27 February 2020 21: 28 New
              0
              Are you for complete autocracy?
              Irrational: since it is not suitable for any type of character, but BRAINS NEVER are superfluous.
  • Ross xnumx
    Ross xnumx 26 February 2020 14: 26 New
    +9
    Zeroing deadlines: the network discusses Surkov’s opinion on presidential powers

    Why should we discuss the opinion of a person who is similar in appearance to people who don’t turn their backs in the bathhouse? What “this” could do to be ranked among the pillars of lawmaking? What laws were issued according to which the Russian people "lived happily ever after"? Or is he more significant than Kiriyenko, who emerged from oblivion?
    Parrots repeating the words of the owner are of little interest ...
    1. Den717
      Den717 26 February 2020 14: 59 New
      -7
      Quote: ROSS 42
      Or is he more significant than Kiriyenko, who emerged from oblivion?

      I don’t know how with Kiriyenko, but you are definitely not a competitor to him ...
    2. pl675
      pl675 26 February 2020 15: 27 New
      +6
      Quote: ROSS 42
      Zeroing deadlines: the network discusses Surkov’s opinion on presidential powers

      Why should we discuss the opinion of a person who is similar in appearance to people who don’t turn their backs in the bathhouse? What “this” could do to be ranked among the pillars of lawmaking? What laws were issued according to which the Russian people "lived happily ever after"? Or is he more significant than Kiriyenko, who emerged from oblivion?
      Parrots repeating the words of the owner are of little interest ...


      but we are embarrassed to ask, in general, are there people in power who are not ashamed of?
      1. Svarog
        Svarog 26 February 2020 15: 38 New
        +9
        Quote: pl675
        but we are embarrassed to ask, in general, are there people in power who are not ashamed of?

        These are not allowed on a cannon shot ..
    3. Lexus
      Lexus 26 February 2020 15: 31 New
      +4
      to which they don’t turn their backs in the bathhouse

      Where and how to "those" who he called himself, do not turn around, your pockets will be gutted anyway. Absolutely no remorse of a completely lost conscience. The article is just about that.
  • Whalebone
    Whalebone 26 February 2020 14: 26 New
    +1
    These countries will not be released from their clutches, you can’t even dream about it. 20 years was not enough, it is necessary more and more. What is Russia guilty of?
  • The Siberian barber
    The Siberian barber 26 February 2020 14: 26 New
    +4
    If "life from the car window" is tired, then let him take a ride to Donbass, live in the results of his activities
  • Romey
    Romey 26 February 2020 14: 27 New
    +5
    What a vile and slippery type ... Even there is no particular desire to comment. Squeamishly hurt.
  • Oleg123219307
    Oleg123219307 26 February 2020 14: 29 New
    -7
    It is curious what kind of seething on the Internet about these changes under the slogan "Putin is all gone." Well, first of all, what was so bad with the state over the past 20 years was it to shout that everything was bad? In general, nothing. The territory was added, the economy - compare the number of cars on the streets, the army - and there is nothing to compare ... There are, of course, corrals like the exam, but these are essentially trifles. The fact that we do not live like in Saudi Arabia is that I have not seen one working recipe for how to do it in the same way, take it away from the rich and distribute it to the poor. Have already taken away. Distributed. Did not help. Sanctions - let's recognize at last, we have them in parallel. They do not touch on vital things. Considering Putin a politician of the millennium and a god in the flesh - perhaps I can manage. Rather, the level of Brezhnev, or if we take the deeper history of Alexander the first. Not a bad middle and nothing more. I would have preferred a tougher person in power in the future, and so they got rid of the freemen ... As for the future, you don't see why these changes are there? Decentralization of management, public control, a ban on squandering land - he leaves and prepares the ground. Not quite believing that the successor will not twist things. Therefore, the powers of the Duma and the Federation Council, therefore, so that under pressure from the liberals, the Crimea does not surrender the ban on the alienation of land, and therefore everything else. A person will serve his term. And then he either does not plan to prepare a successor, or does not want to take risks in the current conditions and sets a somewhat stricter framework. It's not bad as for me ...
    1. Bomb
      Bomb 26 February 2020 14: 43 New
      +8
      Quote: oleg123219307
      number of cars on the streets
      The number of cars on the streets bought on credit - an indicator of the state of the economy? Are you broadcasting from Mars or from Jupiter?
      1. Oleg123219307
        Oleg123219307 26 February 2020 14: 50 New
        -9
        Do Martians or Jupiterians buy? If the population can’t pay loans, it doesn’t take loans in the bulk. Plus, most cars on the roads today are 7-15 year old European cars for which credit is not particularly given ... I do not argue about the problems in the economy, but also about the opportunities quite a lot.
        1. Bomb
          Bomb 26 February 2020 14: 54 New
          +3
          Tell me about the possibilities of kudrinomika. Everyone will be interested to read.
      2. Sergey39
        Sergey39 26 February 2020 14: 53 New
        0
        Quote: Bomb
        Are you broadcasting from Mars or from Jupiter?

        But what, only on Mars do they buy cars on credit?
        1. Bomb
          Bomb 26 February 2020 15: 07 New
          +2
          I do not know how it is on Mars. In Russia, the share of cars sold on credit for 2019. approached 55%. Growth + 15% by about 2018. Tell why or guess yourself?
          1. figwam
            figwam 26 February 2020 15: 36 New
            +2
            Quote: Bomb
            In Russia, the share of cars sold on credit for 2019. approached 55%. Growth + 15% by about 2018. Tell why or guess yourself?

            And I’ll tell you, the fact is that now there are profitable programs, when buying a car on credit you get a discount on the cost of a car of 30-40 thousand rubles, and after the next day you come and repay the loan, this is what caused the growth of loans.
            1. Bomb
              Bomb 26 February 2020 16: 27 New
              +2
              What ??? You are now about the state. telling support. This scheme has nothing to do with the growth of purchases on credit. The population has a dumb gold reserve. Cash shortage. I’ll tell you simple - there’s no dough because the salary is 25 000 rub. on which, as one senior citizen said, the last without salt being eaten up gives you the choice to feed your family or put your teeth on the shelf. What kind of cars are there? Plus, VAT growth of up to 20% increased the cost of a car to 4%. Want to buy? Yes. Salaries are enough for a car which in the most deshmansky complete set costs 1 million? NO! Go to the bank!
              1. figwam
                figwam 26 February 2020 16: 41 New
                +1
                Quote: Bomb
                What ??? You are now about the state. telling support.

                What state. support))) Ordinary private banks impose a loan on a car, take a loan, get a discount on a car. the more expensive the car the greater the discount, everything is simple.
                1. Bomb
                  Bomb 26 February 2020 17: 14 New
                  +2
                  We are talking about different things. Conditionally: in 2017, I buy a car for 1. In 500, the same iron, rubber and plastic, the same equipment costs 000. The difference is 2020% for three years in plus. Now I consider the income again conditionally in 1 800 000 rub., In 20 2017 60 rub. For three years, real income grew by 000%. That's all the math. % of consumer credit as it was 2020-60% per annum three years ago and remained at the same level.
                  1. figwam
                    figwam 26 February 2020 17: 51 New
                    +1
                    Quote: Bomb
                    We are talking about different things

                    You wrote about the increase in the percentage of people who took a loan, I gave you an example of one of the options for growth, but the fact that cars. so expensive it is an indisputable fact.
                    1. Bomb
                      Bomb 26 February 2020 18: 44 New
                      0
                      So we have come to the finish line. The rise in price of a car is noticeable to any pioneer. And not only cars, but everything in a row. Is the increase in real incomes of the population by 20% over three years noticeable? Or at least 10%? Among my friends there is not a single person who will answer in the affirmative - yes, I feel that over the past two to three years the wallet is getting thicker.
                      1. figwam
                        figwam 26 February 2020 18: 53 New
                        +1
                        Quote: Bomb
                        Among my friends there is not a single person who affirmatively

                        Among my acquaintances there are such people, someone is changing jobs for another with a higher salary, someone is growing in terms of the career ladder, I do not see any problems.
                      2. The comment was deleted.
        2. Sergey39
          Sergey39 26 February 2020 15: 39 New
          -1
          So in all developed countries. This is certainly bad, but there is room for development. But 20 years ago this was not even close. And what do you want? Return to the dashing 90s?
  • GRIGORIY76
    GRIGORIY76 26 February 2020 14: 53 New
    -1
    Not quite believing that the successor will not do the trick. Therefore, the powers of the Duma and the Federation Council

    Therefore, the successor, according to the amendments, will appoint all power ministers and judges? To get things done, you can’t get any cooler
  • Sergej1972
    Sergej1972 26 February 2020 15: 12 New
    -1
    Basically I agree with you. But if you carefully study the amendments to the Constitution, you cannot help but come to the conclusion that they do not weaken, but strengthen the power of the President.
    1. Astra wild
      Astra wild 26 February 2020 18: 51 New
      0
      It has long been customary in Russia to personify power.
  • Genry
    Genry 26 February 2020 15: 42 New
    -10
    When the West believed that Russia was torn to shreds ... (peacetime):
    1. Crystal of Truth
      Crystal of Truth 26 February 2020 17: 38 New
      -1
      Oil 1999 $ 15 oil 2013 how much? $ 120? That's the whole secret
      1. Bomb
        Bomb 26 February 2020 18: 35 New
        +1
        That's right, as soon as the partners travanuli in 2013. commodity economy, the cost of oil fell almost three times, the house of cards immediately rained down. Budget revenues from the sale of hydrocarbons at $ 100 have gone down in history. The question is how to compensate? What do we produce and sell for export in such quantities to cover losses? Even if you put together a bunch of engineering, weapons, metallurgy, agricultural, etc. still does not overlap. But, thank God, the Russian people are very patient; they cannot be taken to death by taxes and extortions.
    2. Crystal of Truth
      Crystal of Truth 26 February 2020 17: 41 New
      -1
      Like this
  • icant007
    icant007 26 February 2020 15: 51 New
    +3
    Quote: oleg123219307
    Of course there are pens like the exam, but these are essentially trifles.


    These are not even trifles, but a matter of paramount importance.

    It is no accident that the issue of training personnel is the first item in the National Security Strategies of the leading countries.

    And we have education - according to the residual principle. This is the whole essence of state policy.
  • viktor_ui
    viktor_ui 26 February 2020 14: 33 New
    +7
    Looks like Zelensky, a shirt-guy from the people in the photo. Fell off the feeder and immediately into the position. And before that, he worked in the trash for the benefit of this same as his people. From the window of the car, I only thought about Russia.
    1. cniza
      cniza 26 February 2020 15: 10 New
      +1
      This man will never leave the cage ...
    2. Astra wild
      Astra wild 26 February 2020 18: 39 New
      +1
      Here, here, and now with burning tears is pouring about that period
  • Lekz
    Lekz 26 February 2020 14: 37 New
    -2
    I did not understand why Surkov's interview was pulled out of his opinion about the possibility of a collapse of the presidential term. Perhaps, from a legal point of view, this is true. But more importantly, Putin has already given up this prospect. In this situation, I am irritated by the lamentations of liberal truth-diggers about the "change of power". I would like to ask: do you want to go, or with checkers?
  • Lord of the Sith
    Lord of the Sith 26 February 2020 14: 51 New
    -3
    ... Surkov's statement about a hyper-presidential republic


    What other republic? Russia is a federation, not a republic.
    1. Sergej1972
      Sergej1972 26 February 2020 16: 43 New
      +2
      The republic and the monarchy is a form of government. Unitary, regionalist and federal states are a form of state (state-territorial) structure.
      The republic can be federal (Russia, USA, Germany, India, Pakistan, Venezuela, Mexico, Argentina, Brazil, Austria), and unitary (France, Italy, Poland, Bulgaria, etc.). Monarchies are also unitary (Holland, Saudi Arabia) and federal (Belgium, Canada, Australia). There are also federal monarchies — federations of monarchies with monarchs in the subjects (Malaysia, UAE), one of which on a permanent (UAE) or rotational basis (Malaysia) performs the functions of a federal monarch. Federations are relatively centralized and relatively decentralized. In general, the information is available to any student of grade 11 who attended classes in social studies.
      Russia is a de jure presidential (although I personally believe that it is mixed with a very strong presidential power), a centralized federal republic. De facto super-presidential, highly centralized federal republic. The absence of the word republic in the name of the Russian Federation, the United States, the United Mexican States does not mean that these countries are not republics.) Similarly, the Austrian Republic is a federation, despite the fact that its name does not contain the word "federal".
  • is-22
    is-22 26 February 2020 14: 58 New
    -2
    QED
  • 72jora72
    72jora72 26 February 2020 15: 00 New
    +3
    I liked Surkov’s response to the Donbass more.
    "- Will Donbass return to Ukraine?

    “I don’t have a strong imagination to imagine that. Donbass does not deserve such humiliation. Ukraine does not deserve such an honor. "
    1. hydrox
      hydrox 26 February 2020 16: 11 New
      0
      In fact, a very worthy answer, quite deserving of placement on the tablets.
  • primaala
    primaala 26 February 2020 15: 03 New
    +1
    Well ... Uncle Vova's strange advisers. In vain GDP so discredits itself.
    In his place, I would closely "communicate" with our military. With those who specifically have the "state of affairs". It is high time for the FSB to double-check. As well as departments in all regions. In no case do I want to offend anyone. Observing (not for the first year) the events, you involuntarily come to the conclusion: "Is that the boy !?"
    The people are not afraid of change. The people are worried about who will be next in order to restore order within the country.
  • Old Horseradish
    Old Horseradish 26 February 2020 15: 07 New
    0
    These oligarchic monkeys began to get hot asses. Something they have there is not in order. And stealing money and exporting it abroad, as they have been doing for the past 30 years, is sweet, and they cannot live without it. We have snot and any nonsense about "patriotism", money and real estate in the West. They just kind of stirred up there like cockroaches. Something went wrong with them. Either this comrade is bad, or an unchildish bickering has gone on among themselves. But something is definitely going on. And maybe, already from hell, the fire begins to bake.
    1. Romey
      Romey 26 February 2020 15: 56 New
      +4
      Crisis on the nose. Global, possibly worse than 29 years. So they knock down the braces of the rotten galley. So that this whole oligarchic-comprador system, collapsing, does not immediately crush. And so, they expect that when it decays completely, they will have time to bounce to the spiritless west to the yachts, granddaughter children, and villas.
  • cniza
    cniza 26 February 2020 15: 08 New
    +2
    Meanwhile, there are opinions on the network that Surkov’s statement about the hyper-presidential republic and the possibility of starting the countdown of tenure in the presidential chair from the beginning is “for good reason.”


    This person never does nothing and does not say anything ...
  • The comment was deleted.
    1. God save the king
      God save the king 26 February 2020 16: 44 New
      -1
      The Russian people deservedly deserved that such a talented national leader as Putin would rule the country as long as possible.
      Enough of troubled times and the prison of nations.
      1. Old Horseradish
        Old Horseradish 26 February 2020 17: 22 New
        -2
        Quote: God save the Tsar
        The Russian people deservedly deserved that such a talented national leader as Putin would rule the country as long as possible.

        Son, do you know that your "Russian people" has been dying out for 25 years already? And then what is your "time of troubles"?
        1. God save the king
          God save the king 26 February 2020 18: 27 New
          -3
          , but do you know that your "Russian people" has been dying out for 25 years already?
          And all because people began to live well, for themselves. The problem is inherent for all developed countries, but all Afghanistan, Somalia and Burkina Fas have no problems with extinction, with an average duration of less than 30 years they manage to multiply exponentially.
          And then what do you think "time of troubles"
          this is the arbitrariness of liberalism, which destroys traditions with screams about "human rights", it is gay parades on the street, propagating obscenities to the younger generation, this is the arbitrariness of eco-activists who prevent normal people from living the way they want.
          1. Old Horseradish
            Old Horseradish 26 February 2020 22: 36 New
            0
            Quote: God save the Tsar
            And all because people began to live well

            Son, you can't live well with demons by definition. It is possible to live in charm (as you live), but not for long. The ending will be bad, anyway. If the country survives, our descendants will call this time "cursed and damned, with thieves and impostors."
  • DRM
    DRM 26 February 2020 15: 25 New
    +2
    This is zhzhzh-zh, not casual ...
  • beeper
    beeper 26 February 2020 15: 30 New
    0
    This was the case when the Constitutional Court of Ukraine made a decision on the competence of Leonid Kuchma to go for a "third term (with only two" presidential cadences "allowed constitutionally!)" therefore, "under the new 1996 Constitution," that period of the presidency does not seem to be considered ...

    But then the total "democratic" regime of Fashington openly intervened in the internal Ukrainian affairs, and the American "hegemons" clearly explained to the Ukrainian "hookers" what would become of the considerable "capitals" of Mr. Kuchma, his kleptokamarilla and his son-in-law, who were ukroprezik-2 in his "libertarian" book of memoirs "Writing to the Maidan") by his father-in-law, one of the Ukrainian kleptoligarchs-privatizers, inter-shared by the dominant thieves, of our National Soviet Property ...

    Pan Kuchma and his accomplices, reluctantly heeding the "warnings" of their overseas hucksters, but obviously having their own calculations in mind, went the other way towards the same goal, trying to play on the contradictions of the West-East of Ukraine and play off the frankly weak "technical candidates" Yushchenko and Yanukovych, and their supporting electorate (about half of the then Ukrainian population with the right to vote), in order to introduce indefinite "direct presidential rule" on the wave of the provoked civil conflict (as an active participant in the "orange" and "euro" - "Maidan ", anti-constitutional coups d'etat," maidanoprez "Giblets and his kleptokamarilla, provoking an armed conflict with Russia for the introduction of indefinite" direct presidential rule "!) ....

    But their "cunning dispositions" were again prevented by the "overseas" Washington curators of amero "Nezalezhnosti", who made a bet on the "Svidomo" Selyuk, a former accountant and party organizer of the rural savings bank, who was looked after and caught "on a honey trap" by the American State Department sent to Ukraine (in the next pro-American "Maidan", another visiting State Department looked after and chose the same "non-stealing" aborigine to "Maidanoprezy", but there was no longer any need to marry him - the American neo-colonialists no longer considered it necessary to hide their impudent total interference in internal Ukrainian affairs from the population of their Euro-colony " Ukraine "!) From the Bandera" diaspora "!

    So, "there is nothing new under the moon"! yes Moreover, such a precedent was in the neighborhood and not so long ago, in 2004 ....
    I am an overseas sympathizer of your VV Putin, who at the very last moment (it was very clearly seen from the outside, the Russian heart broke off to look at what EBN and his comprador camarilla were doing with Russia under the supervision of "common people" ....! ) saved Russia, our common Russian Fatherland, from death, and I was also saved by the wild panic and animal confusion in the ranks of the infuriated Banderlog, sown by the March 2014 permission of the Russian Council of Federation to the President of the Russian Federation to use the Russian Armed Forces outside the borders of Russia! yes
    Therefore, it will be nice and somehow calmer for Russia if Vladimir Vladimirovich remains President of the Russian Federation for a longer time and the "problem of the transit of power" is "shifted in terms of time to the right"! wink
    IMHO.
  • Nikolaevich I
    Nikolaevich I 26 February 2020 15: 53 New
    +6
    What is it ? "God save the king ...." is it shining for us again? belay Eprst! And Surkov - "ma-la-dec"! Lizanul, so licked ... avidly, but did not choke! That's what years of training mean! request
    1. God save the king
      God save the king 26 February 2020 16: 30 New
      -4
      What is it ? "God save the king ...." is it shining for us again?

      And why not?
      Only the strong arm of the autocracy can save Russia and our traditions from the corrupting influence of liberalism.
      1. Romey
        Romey 26 February 2020 21: 25 New
        0
        How are you joking, or do you really honor the leader of thieves and this same liberalism? Gee ... Probably something like Poklonskaya. How are busts streaming around there? Like a monarchist to a monarchist.
      2. Nikolaevich I
        Nikolaevich I 27 February 2020 02: 06 New
        +1
        Quote: God save the Tsar
        Only the strong arm of the autocracy can save Russia and our traditions from the corrupting influence of liberalism.

        What nonsense ?! belay A bad "autocrat" will bring more and irreparable harm to the country than the "pernicious influence" of the entire "liberalism"! fool Are you not enough "autocrats" Gorbachev, EBN? And you can dig and "earlier" (!): Khrushch, Nikolashka 2nd ..... The future of Russia - a game of "heads and tails"? Fifty fifty? Or "smart" or "dypak"? Or worse (!) .... "bastard, traitor"? Oxen and don't talk nonsense! It is a misfortune for the people, the country, when the state structure is laid down that the present and future of this people, the country depends on the will, conscience, mind of one person! fool
      3. 2 Level Advisor
        2 Level Advisor 27 February 2020 08: 56 New
        0
        Perhaps the monarchy would be a good system in principle, mainly because the monarch has no reason to steal from himself .. And I consider "cuts" and their counterparts aimed at personal enrichment without regard for the interests of the state as the worst disaster in the country .. Is Putin still today? or do you see an option to crown him?
  • God save the king
    God save the king 26 February 2020 16: 34 New
    -1
    And why not?
    So far, Vladimir Vladimirovich is the guarantor of peace in the Russian land, stability and prosperity of the Russian people, and he cannot see a replacement. It’s better to let everything remain as it is.
  • Nyrobsky
    Nyrobsky 26 February 2020 16: 36 New
    +2
    C'mon, said and said. Now they say a lot of things, but they even more speculate and add to what has been said, so that in the end it turns out not at all what was originally said. We’ll see, but so far they haven’t even voted for the amendments or for the president. winked
  • Ros 56
    Ros 56 26 February 2020 16: 40 New
    -3
    Surkov, a big-headed man, made a throw in order to see where ... the ram will flow.
  • Gunner
    Gunner 26 February 2020 17: 34 New
    -2
    Yeah, and the reckoning, too, with the Adoption of the Constitution to begin, otherwise it. And if the reform fails and the people like me vote against Putin and the gang will resign?
    1. Romey
      Romey 26 February 2020 21: 27 New
      0
      Yeah, wait ... 146 and 76% respectively.
  • Astra wild
    Astra wild 26 February 2020 18: 19 New
    +1
    "it is not casual", perhaps a deliberate provocation. It is quite possible that he wants to take revenge on those who "pushed" him
  • fa2998
    fa2998 26 February 2020 21: 27 New
    0
    Quote: kjhg
    It is time to nullify this power, together with the president, government, governors, deputies and their owners - oligarchs.

    But they’re just against it. They have raised numerous law enforcement agencies to help. List for a long time. Just pickn. You will be a terrorist, a separatist or just a drug addict. laughing hi