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FSB detained teenagers planning a massacre at a school in Saratov

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FSB detained teenagers planning a massacre at a school in Saratov

In Saratov, FSB officers stopped an armed attack on one of the educational institutions. According to the FSB Public Relations Center, two teenagers born in 2005 were detained.


According to a popular report, both teenagers were members of various online communities promoting massacre and suicide. They planned a massacre in one of the schools in Saratov, for which they prepared a shotgun for a hunting rifle and wanted to use incendiary mixtures, the recipes of which were found on the Internet.

The organizers of the suppressed attack are two Russian citizens born in 2005, who were members of various online communities promoting the ideology of mass killings and suicide. Teenagers are detained in the territory of one of the abandoned bomb shelters, where they kept a sawn-off shotgun in a cache

- said in a statement.


According to the FSB, one of the detainees planned to kill 40 people "because of revenge." This was stated by his accomplice at the interrogation. According to him, they had already developed a plan of attack on one of the schools, the "action" was planned for May. The interrogated explained that he became interested in the ideology of massacres in schools a year ago.

A criminal case has been instituted against detainees under part 1 of article 30 and h. 2 Article 105 of the Criminal Code of Russia (preparation for the commission of a group of persons by prior conspiracy to kill two or more persons), the issue of choosing a preventive measure is being decided.

As previously announced in the DSP, since 2018, about 150 youth extremist Internet communities have been identified, more than 50 armed attacks on educational institutions have been prevented. It is noted that the radical ideology that promotes mass killings and suicides continues to appear with enviable consistency on the Internet, attracting more and more teenagers to its networks.
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    1. Invoce
      Invoce 26 February 2020 11: 21
      +26
      Quote: MoJloT
      FSB detained teenagers
      What kind of new department to combat schoolchildren has earned? No, storage should certainly be punished, but they are now slapped for 15-20 years. Shkolota fades when they already realize that all these groups are created by the FSB?

      Why talk about what you don't know for sure? Among young people, especially influenced or unrooted in the area, radical sentiments very often prevail. It has always been that way. Think of hippies or other movements, but they were not extremist. But if you invest money there, give literature or a curator through the network, then a different result grows. The FSB has nothing more to do than "raise" juvenile terrorists. The most important question is WHY?
      1. maxim947
        maxim947 26 February 2020 11: 25
        +39
        Shkolota fades when they already realize that all these groups are created by the FSB?

        Did Kukuha go completely? does the conspiracy of special services appear everywhere?
        There were always "mentally ill" and anarchists, unfortunately this is a historical fact, so I would like to thank the FSB for their work.
        1. MoJloT
          MoJloT 26 February 2020 11: 46
          -24
          Did Kukuha go completely? does the conspiracy of special services appear everywhere?
          And here is a conspiracy, the easiest way to identify them.
          1. Shurik70
            Shurik70 26 February 2020 14: 23
            +1
            It is unlikely that the FSB will itself produce terrorists.
            But here it is his direct duty to follow them.
            All of these sites are under a tight hood.
            And the fact that maniacs fall on this hook speaks of their low intelligence.
            Would be smarter - would not engage in terror.
        2. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 26 February 2020 12: 28
          +8
          Quote: maxim947
          There were always "mentally ill" and anarchists, unfortunately this is a historical fact, so I would like to thank the FSB for their work.

          It is bad that the age of anarchists and terrorists has become completely childish. There is something to think about not only the Ministry of Education, the public and law enforcement, but also the government.
          1. Dart2027
            Dart2027 26 February 2020 12: 45
            +9
            Quote: tihonmarine
            It is bad that the age of anarchists and terrorists has become completely childish.

            No wonder. Young people have always been a contingent sensitive to all sorts of "ideas". There are many hormones, but little experience and intelligence.
            1. Romka47
              Romka47 27 February 2020 10: 25
              +2
              So, plus to this now they have access to any information. I also had some kind of "corrals" at school, patriotism for little did not grow into (well, let's say Nazism), but there was no Internet where the same ololosh would tell me "yes, that's right, dare", there was only grandfather and dad, who quickly taught the mind to reason, and not with a whip, but gave the pickle book "Moonzund", then he chose the right topics for himself. As a result, I did not stain my hands with blood, I love my homeland even more, and now I can shut up any "enemy of the nation" with facts and dates, I am glad that fate has turned out like this, but I could have got on the bench like these poor fellows and more and more time and even greater hatred for power and society.
        3. w70
          w70 27 February 2020 07: 27
          0
          There were always "mentally ill" and anarchists, unfortunately this is a historical fact, so I would like to thank the FSB for their work.
          No need to lie, there were none before, but such CASES appear on order from above
          1. Dart2027
            Dart2027 27 February 2020 10: 56
            0
            Quote: w70
            No need to lie, there were none before

            Who said that?
      2. MoJloT
        MoJloT 26 February 2020 11: 36
        -22
        Think of hippies or other movements, but they were not extremist.
        Hippies are deviators and deserters who did not want to serve the country or betrayed the oath, and for this even committed terrorist acts!
        The FSB has nothing more to do than "raise" juvenile terrorists. The most important question is WHY?
        They do not grow them, thus reveal.
      3. Machito
        Machito 26 February 2020 11: 38
        +11
        Life imprisonment will be a worthy punishment and a good example for other monsters. And more often on TV to show how they are being taken across the zone with their cancer.
        1. vadsonen
          vadsonen 26 February 2020 12: 10
          -10
          And more often on TV to show how they are being taken across the zone with their cancer.

          Do you have such fantasies?
          Speed ​​up tomorrow - you will be jailed for attempting to kill other participants in the movement. Soldering iron in one place and confess everything!
        2. Obi-Wan Kenobi
          Obi-Wan Kenobi 26 February 2020 14: 58
          -2
          Life imprisonment will be a worthy punishment and a good example for other monsters. And more often on TV to show how they are being taken across the zone with their cancer.

          What are you talking about now? Do you realize what you are writing? Do you have children? Or are you firmly convinced that if you wish, they will not find an article for you or your children?
          Here is a quote from the text:
          They planned a massacre in one of the schools in Saratov, for which they prepared a shotgun for a hunting rifle and wanted to use incendiary mixtures, the recipes of which were found on the Internet.

          Key phrase - "They planned ... and wanted ..."
          Where is the crime. You cannot be punished for a crime that has not been committed, in the absence of the very corpus delicti. The plans and wishlist of 15-year-olds are not "sewn" to the case.
          Thus, it is possible to condemn any hunter who has a weapon. Just sending from his phone or computer the appropriate message on the social network. And that’s ... Forward to the kitchman.
          You can’t do that. What kind of justice is this with us? Lived to a brighter future?
          Teenagers are also good, I do not justify them. But you cannot go to jail for what you have not done ...
          1. 4ekist
            4ekist 26 February 2020 15: 22
            0
            You are not right.
          2. Terenin
            Terenin 26 February 2020 16: 18
            +2
            Quote: Obi Wan Kenobi
            Key phrase - "They planned ... and wanted ..."
            Where is the crime.

            Well, hello. In criminal proceedings, the concept "as preparation for a crime" is the final corpus delicti.
            Of course, no one has canceled the evidence base.
          3. Machito
            Machito 26 February 2020 19: 17
            0
            Let’s wait while they’re done? We have already made a sawn-off shotgun and began to assemble pyrotechnics. Would you give them your Vkontakte addresses of your children?
      4. carstorm 11
        carstorm 11 26 February 2020 11: 39
        -22
        it’s not about radicalism. the man said correctly. Peps specially do these provocations and thank them for it. how to calculate them among thousands of ordinary children?
        1. Terenin
          Terenin 26 February 2020 12: 06
          +8
          Quote: carstorm 11
          the man said correctly

          Man said wrong
          Quote: carstorm 11
          peps these provocations specifically do

          The organization of counter-terrorism activities, by any structure, lawyers in court, will quickly collapse and still bring the organizers to criminal responsibility
          Quote: carstorm 11
          how to calculate them among thousands of ordinary children?

          Everything is easier. Read the law on hordes ...
          1. carstorm 11
            carstorm 11 26 February 2020 12: 26
            -1
            you did not understand. any activity, even wanted, should be based on something. tests and work with psychologists rarely identify sociopaths. they can live peacefully among us and their identification becomes possible in most cases after the crime. I don’t argue about the wrongful side of these actions. I only doubt that someone will be able to prove them. but we must act here and now. I am not an opera. I am a military man. but working with drugs has proven a lot for me personally.
            1. Terenin
              Terenin 26 February 2020 16: 22
              +2
              And, you do not see the danger, in unprofessional legal action is that
              Quote: carstorm 11
              I am not an opera. I am a military man.

              but categorically urge
              Quote: carstorm 11
              but we must act here and now.
              ? winked
              1. carstorm 11
                carstorm 11 26 February 2020 16: 34
                -2
                Well, I'm not the last resort), but my opinion is this.
      5. Sharky
        Sharky 26 February 2020 11: 44
        +1
        Think of hippies or other movements, but they were not extremist.

        Yes, you yourself are swimming in the matter. The hippie movement was based on the use of LSD. It was the hippies who were against various conflicts and practiced love and unity with nature, expanding consciousness and were categorically against violence. Accepting LSD, they rethought the way of society, felt they were an integral part of the universe, and of course, completely mowed down from the army. In the USA, then they began to fight against hippies, as they needed wars and conflicts around the world. LSD was banned and the hippie movement came to naught by the end of the 80s. And no curators and money would make the hippies go to school and arrange a massacre.
        1. AlexO
          AlexO 26 February 2020 12: 21
          +1
          Hippies were not aggressive, but vile.
        2. Baloo
          Baloo 26 February 2020 12: 34
          +2
          Quote: Sharky
          The hippie movement was based on the use of LSD.

          It is founded! This was part of the MK-ultra program for the control and management of public consciousness, as part of the struggle against the USSR and anti-American regimes. This program surfaced after Watergate. This topic is forgotten, but in vain. I see its elements even now, although professionally far from this. In Soviet times, there was a large article in literature.
          It would be useful even now to remind about it on central channels and to hold parallels in our time. yes
          1. Sharky
            Sharky 26 February 2020 18: 37
            +1
            MK-ultra for the control and management of public consciousness

            It was, I do not argue. Only at first did LSD appear, and then MK-ultra. Yes, and this drug is very poorly suited for the role of a means to manipulate the mind. Therefore, hippies were not controlled by the authorities. Many scholars of that time agreed that the action of LSD is much closer to meditation or insight (the state of "revelation" can be achieved in different ways, through meditation, the religious component (grace has come down) or through LSD). So, people began to understand something, that their system was deceiving and hiding the truth. The program was curtailed, the expander of consciousness was banned.
      6. vadsonen
        vadsonen 26 February 2020 12: 06
        -9
        The FSB has nothing more to do than "raise" juvenile terrorists. The most important question is WHY?

        You can’t fight drugs - this is their main source of income.
        They are not allowed to fight economic crimes, such as the export of capital from Russia.
        But catching youngsters is easy. And they will give a medal.
        1. Berber
          Berber 26 February 2020 12: 13
          +8
          Do you think it would be better if these undergrowths kill someone?
          1. vadsonen
            vadsonen 26 February 2020 12: 19
            -8
            Estessna I don’t want anyone killed. I mean, there is no trust in the "service". In fact - storing the gun. And during interrogation with partiality, people confess to anything. Or do you doubt that they are doing this?
            1. Berber
              Berber 26 February 2020 13: 06
              +3
              What for? What motives are needed for this? Have you seen enough movies about malicious Chekists? Corruption, bureaucracy and other common vices of our officials are real evil. And the fact that the films show - a lie.
              1. vadsonen
                vadsonen 26 February 2020 13: 16
                -4
                You yourself answered the question why - corruption, because they are not any Chekists. And they fight with those who do not share.
                1. Berber
                  Berber 26 February 2020 13: 18
                  +4
                  Who does not share? Teens? Are you talking about an article or about whom?
                  1. vadsonen
                    vadsonen 26 February 2020 13: 29
                    -2
                    For "chasing the punks" they receive awards, they say they have prevented a terrorist attack. And organized crime can not share - this is what they are fighting with (which does not share or forgets to enter).
      7. Ironcity
        Ironcity 26 February 2020 13: 27
        -3
        For the stars on shoulder straps, for what else.
    2. Vend
      Vend 26 February 2020 11: 23
      +11
      Quote: MoJloT
      FSB detained teenagers
      What kind of new department to combat schoolchildren has earned? No, storage should certainly be punished, but they are now slapped for 15-20 years. Shkolota fades when they already realize that all these groups are created by the FSB?

      You kindly skipped the wrong ski. This should be indicated to your employers in the USA or Britain.)
      1. Cananecat
        Cananecat 26 February 2020 11: 32
        +12
        He receives in hryvnias)))
      2. MoJloT
        MoJloT 26 February 2020 11: 38
        -11
        You kindly skipped the wrong ski. This should be indicated to your employers in the USA or Britain.)
        For details, where to send the resume?)
        1. Baloo
          Baloo 26 February 2020 12: 36
          +7
          Quote: MoJloT
          You kindly skipped the wrong ski. This should be indicated to your employers in the USA or Britain.)
          For details, where to send the resume?)

          Closest to Kiev, the tsrules occupy a whole floor there, and if you believe the press in Kiev, their incomplete regiment.
        2. Vend
          Vend 26 February 2020 12: 51
          +4
          Quote: MoJloT
          You kindly skipped the wrong ski. This should be indicated to your employers in the USA or Britain.)
          For details, where to send the resume?)

          And what about the Kiev office of Russophobia you are no longer satisfied? Are they paid little and not regularly? laughing
          1. MoJloT
            MoJloT 26 February 2020 15: 40
            -2
            And what about the Kiev office of Russophobia you are no longer satisfied?
            I am convinced they won’t take me there)
            1. Vend
              Vend 26 February 2020 16: 02
              +2
              Quote: MoJloT
              And what about the Kiev office of Russophobia you are no longer satisfied?
              I am convinced they won’t take me there)

              With your convictions against the FSB, they’ll definitely take laughing
              1. MoJloT
                MoJloT 26 February 2020 18: 01
                -1
                With your convictions against the FSB, they will definitely take a laugh
                If you read that I am strictly against the FSB, I advise you to read it again, then again, then think about it, then read it again ...)
                1. Vend
                  Vend 26 February 2020 18: 11
                  0
                  Quote: MoJloT
                  With your convictions against the FSB, they will definitely take a laugh
                  If you read that I am strictly against the FSB, I advise you to read it again, then again, then think about it, then read it again ...)

                  Well, do not impose on everyone their way of understanding simple truths laughing
                  1. MoJloT
                    MoJloT 26 February 2020 18: 12
                    0
                    Well, do not impose on everyone their way of understanding simple truths laughing
                    Some will do anything, the main thing would be wink
                    1. Vend
                      Vend 27 February 2020 10: 09
                      0
                      Quote: MoJloT
                      Well, do not impose on everyone their way of understanding simple truths laughing
                      Some will do anything, the main thing would be wink

                      Do not judge other people by yourself laughing
        3. fruit_cake
          fruit_cake 26 February 2020 15: 26
          0
          there are a lot of bots and trolls with stuffing, if you are an ordinary person repeating words after bots for free, then the bad news for you ...
    3. Den717
      Den717 26 February 2020 11: 24
      +14
      Quote: MoJloT
      they are now slapped for 15-20 years.

      Are you against Oh yes,
      Quote: MoJloT
      groups created by the FSB

      What proof do you have? OBS? I think the government will soon be ripe for registering on the Internet with a passport, without any "nicknames". Then you will five times think about which bucket to pour under the door of a respected department. wassat
      1. MoJloT
        MoJloT 26 February 2020 11: 41
        -10
        Are you against Oh yes,
        Yes, against, I think such terms for minors are not justified.
        What evidence do you have?
        If the FSB themselves did not think of it, sadly, but I think the pros work there.
        To register on the Internet was on the passport, without any "nicknames". Then you will five times think about which bucket to pour under the door of a respected department. wassat
        For every old woman ...
        1. Den717
          Den717 26 February 2020 12: 29
          +3
          Quote: MoJloT
          Yes, against, I think such terms for minors are not justified.

          According to the Civil Code, these adolescents are no longer minors, but minors. For them, the deadlines for serious and especially serious crimes are reduced by half.
          Quote: MoJloT
          If the FSB themselves did not think of it, sadly, but I think the pros work there.

          You utter something very interesting. In your opinion, should the FSB itself organize such groups, and then confidently disclose them? Is everything at home ??? Do you think that everything in our country is so calm that the FSB itself must organize its work? Sometimes there is an element of provocation in their actions, but, in my opinion, you go too far ...
          Quote: MoJloT
          For every old woman ...

          Are there handcuffs and a camera with a window on the south side? laughing
        2. Nyrobsky
          Nyrobsky 26 February 2020 12: 37
          +7
          Quote: MoJloT
          Are you against Oh yes,
          Yes, against, I think such terms for minors are not justified.

          You reason strangely. And if these idiots realized their plans? One of the two was broadcasting about the fact that 40 people wanted to kill. In your opinion, it would be necessary to confine ourselves to public censure on the basis that - Onizhedeti ?! Have you ever thought about the fact that someone from your family and friends might someday become a victim of these underdeveloped "rascals"?
          No, the term should be maximum and it is advisable to remove these "heroes" after a year of imprisonment as they reel snot on their fists for the purpose of prophylaxis in schools, so that "ripening but immature" abandon such plans in time.
        3. orionvitt
          orionvitt 26 February 2020 12: 45
          +9
          Quote: MoJloT
          Yes, against, I think such terms for minors are not justified.

          I believe that you would speak differently if your children studied at the school where mass killings were planned. And if they were hurt (God forbid), then you are the first to tear criminals with your bare hands. It’s good to be a peaceful pacifist when trouble does not concern you.
          1. MoJloT
            MoJloT 26 February 2020 15: 42
            -3
            I believe that you would speak differently if your children studied at the school where mass killings were planned.
            You think badly.
    4. Starover_Z
      Starover_Z 26 February 2020 11: 24
      +8
      since 2018, about 150 youth extremist online communities have been identified,

      And how many people became interested in the information from there? The same circles on the water, in the youth, student-student environment this will reach tens of thousands of children - horror!
      It is necessary to restore the ideological orientation of people from adolescence to adulthood at least!
      1. vladcub
        vladcub 26 February 2020 12: 14
        +3
        "it is necessary to restore the ideological orientation" and do you think it will help?
        Among adolescents, there is always a craving for something that is not a formality, and among informals there may always be those who want to direct such people for their own purposes. Perhaps you remember when you were a child there was a movie: "Aniskin and Fantomas"? Then the boys imitated Fantomas, and then there were the Komsomol and the pioneers
      2. AlexO
        AlexO 26 February 2020 12: 25
        +1
        Of course, it’s necessary to restore, but it’s easy to say ... But how it comes to business - the question is right away - what ideology should be pursued? What pleases one is disgusting to another. For example, many advocate religiosity, but for many this is absolutely unacceptable.
    5. Vladimir_2U
      Vladimir_2U 26 February 2020 11: 33
      +5
      Why disturb juvenile degenerates and the FSB? You can still understand about the involvement of sp.Sluzhba to the protest polit. motivated groups, but here it’s clearly just timely and competent monitoring.
    6. pipetro
      pipetro 26 February 2020 11: 34
      +6
      This comment should remain here as a monument to human abomination.
    7. 4ekist
      4ekist 26 February 2020 11: 35
      +1
      You have a very "analytical" mindset.
    8. Dart2027
      Dart2027 26 February 2020 11: 41
      +12
      Quote: MoJloT
      No, storage should certainly be punished, but they are now slapped for 15-20 years.

      Do you want to visit the parents of those who died at the hands of such "schoolchildren" and discuss this issue with them?
      1. MoJloT
        MoJloT 26 February 2020 11: 50
        -10
        Do you want to visit the parents of those who died at the hands of such "schoolchildren" and discuss this issue with them?
        To whom exactly?
        1. Dart2027
          Dart2027 26 February 2020 12: 42
          +3
          Quote: MoJloT
          To whom exactly?

          Quote: Dart2027
          to the parents of those who died at the hands of such "schoolchildren"
          There were already arrows that were not taken at the preparation stage.
          1. MoJloT
            MoJloT 26 February 2020 15: 42
            -3
            Do you want to visit the parents of those who died at the hands of such "schoolchildren" and discuss this issue with them?
            To whom exactly am I asking?
            1. Dart2027
              Dart2027 26 February 2020 16: 14
              0
              Quote: MoJloT
              To whom exactly

              Those whose children were killed by the "Kerch shooter".
              1. MoJloT
                MoJloT 26 February 2020 17: 59
                -2
                Those whose children were killed by the "Kerch shooter".
                What school did he shoot at? Will you continue to persist in your madness?)
                1. Dart2027
                  Dart2027 26 February 2020 18: 32
                  0
                  Quote: MoJloT
                  What school did he shoot at?

                  At the Kerch Polytechnic College. So you don’t want to talk to your parents? Or will you assure that since he was 18, is it completely different?
                  1. MoJloT
                    MoJloT 27 February 2020 10: 49
                    0
                    You don't want to visit the parents of those who died at the hands of such "schoolchildren"
                    Who is in college?
                    1. Dart2027
                      Dart2027 27 February 2020 10: 57
                      0
                      Quote: MoJloT
                      Who is in college?

                      College [1] (English college through French collège ← Lat. Collegium “partnership, commonwealth”) is an educational institution, mainly in the educational systems of Great Britain, the countries of the British Commonwealth and the USA.
                      According to the level of students' training, three types of colleges are distinguished [2]:
                      - relevant to the level of higher education: are part of universities or autonomous universities;
                      - occupying an intermediate position between secondary and higher educational institutions;
                      - relevant to high school.
                      Absolutely bad with the Russian language? It happens.
                      1. MoJloT
                        MoJloT 27 February 2020 10: 58
                        0
                        Perhaps ...) In Russia they are called vocational schools.
                      2. Dart2027
                        Dart2027 27 February 2020 12: 17
                        0
                        Quote: MoJloT
                        In Russia, they are called vocational schools.

                        Quote: Dart2027
                        So you don’t want to talk to your parents?
                      3. MoJloT
                        MoJloT 27 February 2020 13: 27
                        0
                        You repeat, suggest me to do the same?
                      4. Dart2027
                        Dart2027 27 February 2020 13: 34
                        0
                        Quote: MoJloT
                        You repeat

                        Well, it doesn’t reach you.
                        Quote: Dart2027
                        So you don’t want to talk to your parents?
                      5. MoJloT
                        MoJloT 27 February 2020 13: 39
                        0
                        Well, it doesn’t reach you.
                        Do not judge people by yourself.)
                      6. Dart2027
                        Dart2027 27 February 2020 13: 41
                        0
                        Quote: MoJloT
                        Do not judge people by yourself

                        Well, answer the question.
                        Quote: Dart2027
                        Do you want to visit the parents of those who died at the hands of such "schoolchildren" and discuss this issue with them?
                      7. MoJloT
                        MoJloT 27 February 2020 13: 42
                        0
                        Well, answer the question.
                        What schoolchildren? The vocational school is not a school, the school is not a vocational school, I understand that you do not understand the issue, but I will give it as much stubborn stubborn, you rarely see here.
                      8. Dart2027
                        Dart2027 27 February 2020 14: 12
                        0
                        Quote: MoJloT
                        What schoolchildren? Vocational school is not a school, school is not a vocational school

                        Actually, college is not a vocational school either. However, I already wrote about this
                        Quote: Dart2027
                        Or will you assure that since he was 18, is it completely different?
                        It became difficult to justify the terrorists, right?
                      9. MoJloT
                        MoJloT 27 February 2020 14: 24
                        0
                        Actually, college is not a vocational school either. However, I already wrote about this
                        You absolutely do not understand the issue, I already wrote this to you. They emphasize knowledge from Wikipedia, only you yourself know who. I enlighten, read 273 FZ st 63 and st 68. Do not write more nonsense.
                      10. Dart2027
                        Dart2027 27 February 2020 14: 25
                        0
                        Quote: MoJloT
                        You absolutely do not understand the issue
                        That you are self-critical.
                        Quote: MoJloT
                        I enlighten, read 273 FZ st 63 and st 68
                        And you quote.
                      11. MoJloT
                        MoJloT 27 February 2020 14: 52
                        0
                        You are an eccentric, however, Article 68. Secondary vocational education, clause 2. To the development of educational programs of secondary vocational education are allowed persons with an education not lower than basic general or secondary general education, unless otherwise provided by this Federal Law.
                        For those who are in the tank, people who have graduated from school are trained in vocational schools. GETTING SCHOOL ABOUT SCHOOL EDUCATION, not schoolchildren, understand? I simply urge you not to chop the heads of shkolota off your shoulder, with the understanding of what I'm talking about, unlike you. Further educational program for any type of education in Russia I will provide you only on a fee basis. Do you agree?
                      12. Dart2027
                        Dart2027 27 February 2020 14: 58
                        -1
                        Quote: MoJloT
                        For those in the tank, in vocational schools
                        Already been
                        Quote: Dart2027
                        Or will you assure that since he was 18, is it completely different?
                        Yes, a couple of years is a huge difference.
                        Quote: MoJloT
                        I just urge you not to chop shkoloty heads off your shoulder
                        That is, wait for them to realize their plans. It was the same.
                        Here you have more children.
                        https://www.ntv.ru/novosti/2124445/
                        https://www.ntv.ru/novosti/2143000/
                        Here, fortunately, there were no corpses. Do you really regret it?
                      13. MoJloT
                        MoJloT 27 February 2020 15: 02
                        0
                        Do not jump from topic to topic if your tail is pinched. About schoolchildren, preschoolers, vocational schools, students, graduate students and about education you can not compete with me, the level is not the same. You read the news, I see everything with my own eyes.
                      14. Dart2027
                        Dart2027 27 February 2020 16: 31
                        -1
                        Quote: MoJloT
                        Do not jump from topic to topic if your tail is pinched.

                        Look who's Talking.
                        Quote: Dart2027
                        Do you want to visit the parents of those who died at the hands of such "schoolchildren" and discuss this issue with them?
                        You are so touching trying to get away from the uncomfortable question of what such children can do, trying to chat the topic.
      2. vadsonen
        vadsonen 26 February 2020 12: 14
        -8
        What kind of moronic logic? In one case, a fait accompli. In another, storage of a gun. They are tortured to death in a dungeon for a medal, and they confess to the Kennedy assassination.
        1. Dart2027
          Dart2027 26 February 2020 12: 43
          +5
          Quote: vadsonen
          What kind of moronic logic? In one case, a fait accompli. In another, storage of a gun.

          That is, you need to wait until they kill, and then arrest. What the ... logic.
          1. vadsonen
            vadsonen 26 February 2020 13: 23
            -4
            Preventive measures are right. But everything needs to be measured. Here, in fact, the storage of the gun and the state in some communities on some websites. On the basis of this alone, do you want to destroy life? Why aren't such sites closed at all? For in all such cases there will be some kind of storage (even without cartridges). And how then to get medals?
            1. Dart2027
              Dart2027 26 February 2020 13: 38
              0
              Quote: vadsonen
              Here, in fact, the storage of the gun and the state in some communities on some websites.
              For some reason, it never occurred to me to climb such sites.
              Quote: vadsonen
              On the basis of this alone, do you want to destroy life?

              Quote: Dart2027
              That is, you need to wait until they kill, and then arrest.
    9. Terenin
      Terenin 26 February 2020 11: 44
      +7
      Quote: MoJloT
      but they are now slapped for 15-20 years. Shkolota is getting smaller

      And what difference does it make, who inflicted a mortal blow, an 80-year-old man or a 15-year-old boy?
      Let them rejoice that the disaster has been prevented (and they were not neutralized during the detention).
      Now all the opposition will scream that they are against violence and for the happiness of the whole people ...
      1. MoJloT
        MoJloT 26 February 2020 11: 57
        -9
        And what difference does it make, who inflicted a mortal blow, an 80-year-old man or a 15-year-old boy?
        There is a lot of work for specialists in child psychology, I’m sure that the motivation for 15-year-old and 25-year-olds is different, I do not exclude that in most cases for children and adolescents this method will be established among their own, unfortunately, these games can end in long periods or God forbid, who can to suffer, I’m not an expert, so I only know one thing, I need to do something about it, but I'm not sure that landing will destroy the desire to stand out among others.
        1. orionvitt
          orionvitt 26 February 2020 13: 04
          +6
          Quote: MoJloT
          I am sure that the motivation for the 15 year old and 25 year old is different

          It turns out a difference in motivation and a desire to assert itself, how does it reduce guilt? What is the difference between mass killings for personal, political, or religious reasons? In my opinion, none. Or in some cases, you can justify someone, such as "respecting the feelings of believers"? Or even better, "preparing mass murders, wishing to assert themselves, they cultivated leadership qualities in themselves," a very fashionable formulation in our time, worthy of all modern liberoid creacliate. Abomination is everything, there is no excuse for them. And to squint at the fact that they are stupid youngsters, in no case can be a mitigating circumstance. So the terms are at the maximum, with extensive press coverage and subsequent reports from the places of serving the sentence. Maybe so, at least something will reach someone.
          1. MoJloT
            MoJloT 26 February 2020 15: 45
            -2
            It turns out the difference in motivation and the desire to assert oneself, how does it reduce guilt?
            It turns out that he bought a sawn-off shotgun, said that you would kill 100 and reached the goal, he asserted himself, the attack was not needed.
            And mow that they are dumb youngsters
            All youngsters are stupid, and yours too, for that they are youngsters.
    10. Ham
      Ham 26 February 2020 11: 46
      +2
      Yes, do not give them more than 10 ki as minors ... no more under the law
      1. MoJloT
        MoJloT 26 February 2020 11: 51
        -7
        Yes, do not give them more than 10 ki as minors ... no more under the law
        What do you think they will become after 10 years of imprisonment?
        1. Ham
          Ham 26 February 2020 12: 05
          +7
          but what do you think of them - coupons for enhanced nutrition or what? and the question is, who are they now if they are planning massacres? pat on the head and let go on all 4 sides?
          they will be given a maximum of 5 years - there’s just time to grow wiser
          1. MoJloT
            MoJloT 26 February 2020 12: 07
            -4
            They will be given a maximum of 5 years - there’s just time to grow wiser
            Well, in this case, the rules, in this case, everything is correct. I have in mind a specific case, because if they fired at least one shot in the direction of a person, then they should give more, maybe even more than 10.
        2. AlexO
          AlexO 26 February 2020 12: 27
          0
          Well - at least for 10 years it will be possible to live in peace ...
    11. mishaia_23
      mishaia_23 26 February 2020 12: 05
      0
      Now they are being sculpted for 15-20 years. ..

      What are you talking about

      Part 6 of article 88 of the Criminal Code
      A minor who has committed an especially serious crime shall be punished by imprisonment for a term not exceeding ten years.
      Part 6.1 Article 88 of the Criminal Code
      Lower limit of punishment
      The special part of this code provided for in the relevant article is reduced by half
    12. Barmaleyka
      Barmaleyka 26 February 2020 12: 16
      +1
      Quote: MoJloT
      but they are now slapped for 15-20 years.

      and at the same time it’s loud to say that it will be the same with the others, if there are no brains, they will at least be afraid
    13. SASHA OLD
      SASHA OLD 26 February 2020 12: 30
      +3
      They cannot be given more than 10, for no reason at all: they are minors.
      (and it would be necessary to isolate such people forever)
    14. vkl.47
      vkl.47 26 February 2020 13: 02
      +5
      These are the "he children" of people in Odessa burned. And then a myth is created that if a youngster means innocent.
  2. dorz
    dorz 26 February 2020 11: 16
    +11
    Once in England there lived one girl of 13 years old, who was given a life sentence for organizing a gang of youngsters and massacres. sad
    1. ivanec
      ivanec 26 February 2020 11: 20
      -4
      Heidi like ", but it's not certain
    2. Ross xnumx
      Ross xnumx 26 February 2020 11: 47
      +2
      Quote: dorz
      Once in England there lived one girl 13 years old

      By the way, criminal liability for some crimes in England comes from 10 years.
      As far as I remember, in our country there were cases when 11-12 year olds committed rape. And it happened that the murders ... And what do you do with such juvenile scumbags?

      https://tverdyi-znak.livejournal.com/885368.html
      There are hospitals, you can use occupational therapy ... In any case, this is due to idleness ...
      1. 4ekist
        4ekist 26 February 2020 15: 34
        0
        And from the "education" of parents. By the way, were they taken for one place?
  3. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 26 February 2020 11: 20
    +1
    identified about 150 youth extremist online communities,
    And what happened to them?
  4. Olya Tsako
    Olya Tsako 26 February 2020 11: 22
    -12
    Give the parents of these children a normal, paid job, and do not import migrant workers in the millions, and suicidal extremist sentiments will also disappear in the teenage environment.
    1. Magnat231
      Magnat231 26 February 2020 11: 29
      +10
      This is nonsense, what does the salary and upbringing have to do with it? Take these idiots on a gelek, they drove that they don’t have money, this is education
    2. Krasnodar
      Krasnodar 26 February 2020 11: 33
      +2
      Quote: Olya Tsako
      Give the parents of these children a normal, paid job, and do not import migrant workers in the millions, and suicidal extremist sentiments will also disappear in the teenage environment.

      This is from the United States.
      Where parents' salaries are higher than in most countries of the world
      And the prices are high only for real estate, which is offset by cheap low-interest mortgages
      1. Mastrer
        Mastrer 26 February 2020 11: 49
        +8
        This is not from the states. This RF has become more like the states, with its social problems. A child from a normal family, where at least a little attention is paid to him, cannot be beaten up for the mass execution of peers.

        But when it comes to society where man-to-man is a wolf ... if you multiply by problems in the family ... five or two years old and in our schools, in terms of shooting everything that moves, it will not be any better than in America.
        1. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 26 February 2020 12: 10
          0
          It's hard for me to argue
          Here is a bad example and, possibly, bullying of classmates and - yes, lack of attention in the family
    3. Ross xnumx
      Ross xnumx 26 February 2020 11: 40
      +10
      Quote: Olya Tsako
      Give the parents of these children a normal, paid job, and do not import migrant workers in the millions, and suicidal extremist sentiments will also disappear in the teenage environment.

      I’m a little older and I want to please you that when (during the Second World War) not all schoolchildren (and schoolgirls) had cowards !!!, and “sweet turnip” was considered a delicacy, no one had the desire to reckon with their peers abandoned-found German weapons or bring a grenade to school ... If only the dead Yeltsin had such a desire, and then, until a certain point ...
    4. Terenin
      Terenin 26 February 2020 11: 48
      +4
      Quote: Olya Tsako
      Give the parents of these children a normal, paid job, and do not import migrant workers in the millions, and suicidal extremist sentiments will also disappear in the teenage environment.

      "Chosenness" appropriated to itself, in deciding other destinies and lives, has nothing to do with the salary of the parents No.
    5. loki565
      loki565 26 February 2020 11: 52
      +3
      It started in the USA and there the teenagers were from quite prosperous families, so it doesn’t work
    6. Air force
      Air force 26 February 2020 11: 53
      +6
      How do you know who their parents work? And what have the guest workers here? Now groans and ahs like "bloody gebnya" will begin, they don't want to put the children for anything, then they will put everything in a heap like how much they can steal everything, "Kuriles" will be given to the Japanese, etc. ..... with (slept) polymers and etc., etc. some in the forest, some for firewood. PS On the Internet, purposeful subversive activities are being conducted against Russia and not only, including work with young people, counting on their fragile psyche. Various groups of death, AUE, sects, etc. the special services are fighting this, and all liberal-minded individuals, if only there is a reason to yell "onizhedeti". For some reason they don’t think, but if these "idiots" broke into the school where their offspring study.
  5. rocket757
    rocket757 26 February 2020 11: 28
    +4
    Society is not that great, since it starts to generate such ... sick with the brain.
    It’s no longer possible to blame everything on the Internet; the necessary connections in the environment, of many, have been violated.
    1. orionvitt
      orionvitt 26 February 2020 13: 24
      +4
      Quote: rocket757
      Blame everything on the Internet

      How can it not work when all the threads are drawn to the Internet. It is the vastness of the Internet that is the main platform for such individuals. This infection has crawled out of the Internet, in the form of various extremist communities. There is no doubt, they were before, but only a few, and now there are hundreds. Yes, society is painful, but not by the fact that some “analysts” like low salaries, or an influx of migrant workers who “take jobs from“ locals. ”Almost all such cases occur in countries with a high standard of living. Society is sick with poverty of spirit, lack of great goals and acquisitiveness.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 26 February 2020 14: 35
        0
        Quote: orionvitt
        This infection crept from the Internet, in the form of various communities of an extremist orientation. No doubt, they were before, but there are only a few, but now there are hundreds.

        HAVE HUNDREDS, DO NOT BE MADDAY. Sales in Soviet times, the subculture burst into the streets.
        From such a single reliable recipe NO, or rather there is, but few people will like it .... so we don’t take it.
        As always and as everywhere, an integrated approach, the work of very, very many, to stop this and the like, infection.
        1. orionvitt
          orionvitt 26 February 2020 15: 24
          0
          Quote: rocket757
          HAVE HUNDREDS, DO NOT BE MADDAY. Sales in Soviet times, the subculture burst into the streets.

          You are confusing ordinary criminal groups with communities where the main ideology is the mass murder of people. And without the goal of profit, but simply "assert itself."
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 26 February 2020 16: 58
            0
            If we consider everything through the prism of formal signs and definitions, we’ll drown and drown, because the topic is muddy, largely subjective.
            What kind of ideology is this, "I want to die / shit beautifully" so ugroh / ayu still a bunch of innocent people ???
            What they have in common, that they separate themselves from society, often avenge anyone for it.
            Without ideology, just by completely perverted concepts is the reason.
            In general, there are not exactly the same options, but they are one in the harm that can be done to oneself and others.
  6. Jack O'Neill
    Jack O'Neill 26 February 2020 11: 29
    -7
    According to a popular report, both teenagers were members of various online communities promoting massacre and suicide. They planned a massacre in one of the schools in Saratov, for which they prepared a shotgun for a hunting rifle and wanted to use incendiary mixtures, the recipes of which were found on the Internet.

    I wonder how soon the TV report will come out, that games and anime are to blame for everything?

    In general, really, I wonder what prompted them to such a decision? Revenge, how is it written? It is unlikely that this is an otmaza.
    Sorry, but the real reason, unfortunately, we will not know ...

    The only thing that can be said about the teenagers ... However, I will not say anything. Did they really think that they would not be burned, and even in the public of those that were generally created to capture those who went?
    Well, in a colony, they may get their minds, or maybe not. But I hope that they grow wiser.
    1. pipetro
      pipetro 26 February 2020 11: 40
      +2
      Those. in your opinion the murder of a very realistic comp. characters for several hours a day 5 days a week does not affect the psyche? Or depraved anime with short skirts and "sex-imitative" screams in them do not in any way affect the molestation of youngsters with immature brains, but with spermotoxicosis? Oh really! wassat
      1. Jack O'Neill
        Jack O'Neill 26 February 2020 11: 53
        -4
        Those. in your opinion the murder of a very realistic comp. characters for several hours a day 5 days a week does not affect the psyche?

        Provided that if a person initially with the psyche is not all right, and in addition to Rodaki vegetables. Then yes, it does.
        I’m playing a lot, but I don’t want to kill people. It's funny, but my friends and acquaintances are not drawn either. And almost every day we stick after arable land either in PUBG or in CoD MW 2019.
        Perhaps this is something wrong with us ...

        Or depraved anime with short skirts and "sex-imitative" screams in them do not in any way affect the molestation of youngsters with immature brains, but with spermotoxicosis?

        And what's wrong with skirts? And indeed in eroticism and pron? Let's mow under the nuns or something?
        There is an age limit, for that matter. If you want an anime without eroticism, then this is for example:
        Tate no Yuusha no Nariagari;
        Yakusoku at Neverland;
        Bleach;
        Kimi no na wa;
        Koe no katachi.

        Stupidly the first thing that came to mind.

        UPD: The Helpful Fox Senko-san is also normal.
        1. pipetro
          pipetro 26 February 2020 12: 05
          +3
          1. Absolutely psychologically healthy parents do not exist in nature.
          2. Killing does not pull, but it only instills and enhances aggression and irritability.
          3. Short skirts and "sex-imitative" shouts in anime are child molestation. This spoils the rest of their lives for children.
          4. "Erotica and prone" is terribly harmful even for adults, and especially for children. Sexual arousal leads to anger and aggression - there is a direct connection here. Almost everywhere where there is blood in everyday life - there is also the topic of sex.
          5. If you stick every day somewhere - this is a dependency. This must be treated, do not delay (I'm serious).
          1. Jack O'Neill
            Jack O'Neill 26 February 2020 12: 26
            -3
            1. Absolutely psychologically healthy parents do not exist in nature.

            I am absolutely healthy psychologically. I am married and have a daughter.

            Kill does not pull, but it only instills and enhances aggression and irritability.

            If initially a person is configured for aggression - yes. And that is not always the case.

            Short skirts and "sex-imitative" shouts in anime are child molestation. This spoils the rest of their lives for children.

            There is an age rating.
            A bunch of movies with sex, with moans, etc. Oh yes, there is usually PG-16. With 16 you can. Checkmate.

            Eroticism and prone "is terribly harmful even for adults, and especially for children. Sexual arousal leads to anger and aggression - there is a direct connection. Almost everywhere where there is blood in everyday life, there is also the theme of sex.

            Now youngsters have sex without any problems, so there is where and at whom there is a "sprinkle" (I mean anger).
            And for adults, what's the trouble? My wife and I often watch anime, including hentai.

            If you stick every day somewhere - this is addiction. This must be treated, do not delay (I'm serious).

            Yes, a TV, a stove, a refrigerator, oxygen in the end are also addictive. Horrible!
            In childhood, playing outside is also an addiction, is it also necessary to treat?

            1. pipetro
              pipetro 26 February 2020 12: 41
              +1
              I am absolutely healthy psychologically. I am married and have a daughter.

              ------
              You flatter yourself very much. I sympathize with your wife and daughter about your addiction.
              If initially a person is configured for aggression - yes. And that is not always the case.

              Show me a baby born with "primordial aggression"
              There is an age rating.
              A bunch of movies with sex, with moans, etc. Oh yes, there is usually PG-16. With 16 you can. Checkmate

              It’s hard to comment on your stream of consciousness. How does the age restriction affect the harmfulness of viewing in the human mind? After 18 you can watch at least a video of the autopsies from the morgues during breakfast.
              Now youngsters have sex without any problems, so there is where and at whom there is a "sprinkle" (I mean anger).

              So say that this is an absolutely healthy topic. I even get the feeling that you have hidden (or maybe open) pedophile inclinations
              And for adults, what's the trouble? My wife and I often watch anime, including hentai

              Again, I repeat, this leads to an increase in aggression and irritability. And next to this are always criminal offenses. This thing and marriage can fall apart over time, when the dose of debauchery will have nowhere to increase
              Yes, a TV, a stove, a refrigerator, oxygen in the end are also addictive. Horrible!

              Do not be absurd. Oxygen and food are a physiological necessity. And workaholism is not equal to heroin addiction or porn addiction.
              1. Jack O'Neill
                Jack O'Neill 26 February 2020 13: 36
                -1
                Show me a baby born with signs of "primordial aggression

                Nice try, but ...
                Tell me, was Hitler an animeshnik? And Chekatilo? Or maybe they were gamers?
                Anger is only a trigger, no more.

                It’s hard to comment on your stream of consciousness. How does the age restriction affect the harmfulness of viewing in the human mind? After 18 you can watch at least a video of the autopsies from the morgues during breakfast.

                Do you show all genres and age limits in films to children? They, for a second, are not just being put on.
                12+ - from 12 and older, 16+ - from 16 and older, etc.
                If the psyche went, then she went, and before watching the anime. Take animeshnikov, they are always ready to help each other, they are kind and helpful. This was taught by anime. What a horror, isn't it?
                My daughter is watching Shinzo, an anime of my childhood. Do not tear your ears!
                And yes, since you stoke so much because anime is debauchery, can you write what anime you watched?

                So say that this is an absolutely healthy topic. I even get the feeling that you have hidden (or maybe open) pedophile inclinations

                Yes, this is a healthy topic today. Children today have a more serious relationship than you or me. And "pedophilia" has nothing to do with it. I just live with open eyes.

                Again, I repeat, this leads to an increase in aggression and irritability. And next to this are always criminal offenses. This thing and marriage can fall apart over time, when the dose of debauchery will have nowhere to increase

                Well, yes, I went to PornHub and immediately all this in aggression, yeah. My boss at work causes aggression, but not pron / hentai / games.
                If pron / games cause aggression - this is a bell! Moreover, anime / games are not to blame, except as a trigger. But the trigger may be at least a comment on VO, at least bad weather.
                1. pipetro
                  pipetro 26 February 2020 13: 45
                  0
                  It's hard to talk to you. You write absolutely groundless (and often stupid) statements, and then you write a ton of text, as if these statements are already recognized truth. Just be careful with your penchant for pedophilia, and in no case dare to tell your tales to people under 18 years old, at least you will be guilty of someone’s ruined fate, and get the maximum term.
                  1. Jack O'Neill
                    Jack O'Neill 26 February 2020 14: 32
                    -1
                    It's hard to talk to you. You write absolutely groundless (and often stupid) statements, and then you write a ton of text, as if these statements were already accepted by everyone.

                    A simple question: how many anime have you watched and which ones do you consider "lecherous"?

                    Just be careful with your penchant for pedophilia, and in no case dare to tell your tales to people under 18 years old, at least you will be guilty of someone’s ruined fate, and get the maximum term.

                    I don’t have a penchant for pedophilia. I like girls 25+. Well, ladders, too, from 25+.
                    Don’t worry about me!
      2. Mastrer
        Mastrer 26 February 2020 11: 54
        0
        Affects, just not the way you think. Studies have been ongoing for a long time, they did not find any sharply negative impact. Although very searched, Rockefeller himself fit in.
        1. pipetro
          pipetro 26 February 2020 12: 09
          +1
          Yeah, tell me about "scientific research". I am in this area quite "turned". Those who order research get the results they need. Yes, even just grants are sawing, they will take a sample of 15 people, question them (by very controversial methods), pull the results by the ears - then they shout "scientists have proved!" Tell someone else about "research", okay?
        2. orionvitt
          orionvitt 26 February 2020 13: 34
          +1
          Quote: Mastrer
          sharply negative impact was not found

          Both on. Of course not found. Otherwise, the multi-trillion industry is in question. And the fact that most computer games and modern films exploit the most low-lying feelings of a person certainly does not mean anything. laughing
    2. Incvizitor
      Incvizitor 26 February 2020 11: 51
      +2
      Enough here to promote your "anime", a lot of honor, a report about him on TV.
      1. Jack O'Neill
        Jack O'Neill 26 February 2020 11: 55
        -2
        Enough here to promote your "anime", a lot of honor, a report about him on TV.

        For Asuka, for the yard ...
        1. Incvizitor
          Incvizitor 26 February 2020 11: 57
          0
          Maximum about "cruel cartoons" at whatever talk shop they say, though these talking shops seem to only be looking at grannies.
          1. Jack O'Neill
            Jack O'Neill 26 February 2020 12: 00
            -3
            Maximum about "cruel cartoons" at whatever talk shop they say, though these talking shops seem to only be looking at grannies.

            Grannies are the most dangerous. After all, they will say one thing, and grannies will retell in such a way that it turns out that the anime causes suicide attacks, especially in the mornings, after the casserole.
            My sister about anime rubbed that this is finally horrible, and even deleted the folder with Yuri (this is the anime genre). The neighbor drove too.
            In general, there are enough videos about the fact that anime "kills".
            This is the same thing that femmes are driven to "PornHub".

  7. Qwertyarion
    Qwertyarion 26 February 2020 11: 30
    0
    . It is noted that the radical ideology that promotes mass killings and suicides continues to appear with enviable consistency on the Internet, attracting more and more teenagers to its networks.

    And the location of the authors of these communities is certainly unknown to the authorities ...
    Che some garbage .... Why does no one work with sources of propaganda for violence?
    1. carstorm 11
      carstorm 11 26 February 2020 11: 43
      -3
      everything is simpler. the pheps themselves create them. and they are found among hundreds of thousands of teenagers like these. they themselves will never admit it, but this is the only and most effective way to date. they can be taken on a pencil and controlled and nipped at the right time. you can of course talk about legality now, but I don’t feel like something after the Kerch guy.
    2. Terenin
      Terenin 26 February 2020 11: 55
      +1
      Quote: Qwertyarion
      Why does no one work with sources of propaganda for violence?

      You don’t have to work with them, they have to be punished and forbidden!
      How long can you tolerate, in Russia, the spread of these Western "terrorist cookbooks"?
    3. loki565
      loki565 26 February 2020 11: 59
      +1
      half of them are located behind the hill. And so they catch, plant
      1. 4ekist
        4ekist 26 February 2020 15: 44
        0
        These must simply be disposed of.
      2. Alex Justice
        Alex Justice 27 February 2020 17: 45
        +1
        Phew, what a nasty type. He probably describes himself on the Internet as handsome.
  8. Ross xnumx
    Ross xnumx 26 February 2020 11: 35
    +5
    The information has just passed that one teenager kept a whole small town in fear ...
    It is time to take drastic measures to those who decided to establish themselves in the world (from infancy) in this way. Perhaps if a person does not want to study in a normal institution, he should be given the right to study in a limited space, in a fenced area ... belay
  9. Yurahip
    Yurahip 26 February 2020 11: 38
    +1
    they’re slandering their own time, now no lawyer will help ...
  10. g1washntwn
    g1washntwn 26 February 2020 11: 40
    +5
    In order for young people to "live happily ever after", you need to find those who litter their heads, and arrange demonstration quests for these murky personalities with the ending "... died in one day."
  11. Hog
    Hog 26 February 2020 11: 43
    -1
    It's all your games to blame !!!
    But in fact, it is necessary to educate children correctly, and not according to the principle "And so it will do."
  12. vladcub
    vladcub 26 February 2020 11: 46
    +1
    Teenagers are characterized by radicalism, imitation. They argue as follows: the "Kerch shooter" destroyed the 20th day of honor and praise to him, but is it worse?
    Such have always been will be.
  13. yuliatreb
    yuliatreb 26 February 2020 11: 50
    +1
    According to a popular report, both teenagers were members of various online communities promoting massacre and suicide.

    But the bottom line is that these two are the tip of the iceberg, where the organizers and ideological inspirers are.
  14. prior
    prior 26 February 2020 11: 52
    -3
    Russia. This is your future growing up.
    Here it is the result of total lies and tolerance.
    1. 4ekist
      4ekist 26 February 2020 15: 50
      +1
      The future studies in Suvorov and Nakhimov schools, cadet corps. And these are criminal elements, potential criminals, the court will figure it out, and if they have earned a term, forward to the zone, there are schools for such schools too.
  15. Victor March 47
    Victor March 47 26 February 2020 11: 57
    +4
    Quote: MoJloT
    FSB detained teenagers
    What kind of new department to combat schoolchildren has earned? No, storage should certainly be punished, but they are now slapped for 15-20 years. Shkolota fades when they already realize that all these groups are created by the FSB?

    About 10 years I would give. With the settlement AFTER serving his sentence in the Northern land. For after the young one real animals come out. Parents to pay a fine, a million for 2. So that the next generation looked at both. If such appear.
  16. Victor March 47
    Victor March 47 26 February 2020 12: 00
    +3
    Quote: ROSS 42
    The information has just passed that one teenager kept a whole small town in fear ...
    It is time to take drastic measures to those who decided to establish themselves in the world (from infancy) in this way. Perhaps if a person does not want to study in a normal institution, he should be given the right to study in a limited space, in a fenced area ... belay

    Learn a real profession. Lumberjack and masons. Feed only when the norm is met. And to deprive the illusions of escape, keep on the chain.
  17. Blue fox
    Blue fox 26 February 2020 12: 06
    +5
    Quiet speech, fairly confident answers, relaxed poses of the defendants, I think they could fully carry out their plan. Darkness.
    These are not children. These are mutants. (c)
  18. alex007i
    alex007i 26 February 2020 12: 07
    0
    They planned a massacre in one of the schools in Saratov, for which they prepared a shotgun for a hunting rifle and wanted to use incendiary mixtures ...



    What is going on in the head of some people - only you wonder sometimes.
  19. Dmitry Potapov
    Dmitry Potapov 26 February 2020 12: 08
    +5
    What did you want? There was the USSR, there was an ideology, there was a pioneer organization, there was a Komsomol, and still there were enough idiots, now there is nothing but computer games where they kill and still give prizes and other weapons.
  20. Adam Khomich
    Adam Khomich 26 February 2020 12: 14
    +4
    Quote: MoJloT
    created by the FSB?

    Based on this logic, Chikatilo and other cannibals "created" the KGB.
  21. Zaval
    Zaval 26 February 2020 12: 42
    +1
    Quote: MoJloT
    They do not grow them, thus reveal.

    Well, just a genius of operational-search activity. On the detectives of modern authors trained or just not friends with the head?
  22. Azazelo
    Azazelo 26 February 2020 12: 49
    -1
    pour gasoline and burn in the red square ...
  23. igorlvov
    igorlvov 26 February 2020 13: 37
    +1
    defenders of such boys, remember the Kerch shooter
  24. anjey
    anjey 26 February 2020 13: 44
    +1
    The interrogated explained that he became interested in the ideology of massacres in schools a year ago.
    Here's a gap - when the state does not have a clear ideology for its citizens, then absurd and scary grimaces from the world garbage appear in young heads ....
  25. Nikolay73
    Nikolay73 26 February 2020 15: 32
    +1
    I’ll say a bad thing now ... there is a force one of the goals of which is to kill our children, involve them in such groups, manipulate them, prepare for terror and murder / suicide, these are quite mature and non-human beings who count their actions and should be stopped by any possible means, including physical destruction, regardless of the location and citizenship thereof. Now there is a wide discussion of amendments to the Constitution of Our Country ... I think the limitation period for such acts, as well as extenuating circumstances for this type of crime, cannot be.
  26. samarin1969
    samarin1969 26 February 2020 16: 39
    +1
    In the same type of evidence - again! "online communities" and "storage".
    The "Young Decembrists" are extremely frank and stupid. what
  27. Wanderer039
    Wanderer039 27 February 2020 00: 37
    +1
    To shoot the organizers of this community, with the confiscation of property, as the leaders of a terrorist organization. Ordinary members should be closed in a psychiatric hospital, since only psychiatric patients have a suicidal tendency ... And these two, after forced treatment in a psychiatric hospital, should be closed in jail, let them tell where they took the weapon ...