In the forest near Cologne, archaeologists found a Soviet radio station

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In the forest near Cologne, archaeologists found a Soviet radio station

An interesting find was made by archaeologists from the Rhine Regional Museum in Bonn. While searching in the forest near Cologne for traces of a Roman-era mansion, they found a Soviet radio station intended for reconnaissance groups operating on enemy territory. As reported "NPlus1" With reference to Live Science, the radio station has a year of release 1987 and is in perfect working condition.

According to the publication, the model of the detected radio station is R-394KKM (most likely a typo. The R-394 series of portable radios do not have the R-394RCK model, it includes the R-394 "Strizh" base model and two upgraded versions - the Strizh- R-394K K "and R-394KM" Strizh-KM ").



The radio station was found in the Hamburg Forest 30 kilometers west of Cologne. She was in a sealed metal box in a cache equipped in the woods and was completely ready for work, provided that the charging batteries were replaced. The keyboard has marks in English with Latin letters on the keyboard, i.e. it was intended for the work of a person who speaks German or English.

No other details of the find were reported.

The R-394KM radio station was produced since 1987, was intended to operate in the frequency range from 1,3 to 13,5 megahertz and had a transmitter range of about 1200 kilometers.
  • Jürgen Vogel / LVR-LandesMuseum Bonn
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  1. +52
    25 February 2020 18: 01
    A normal "bookmark", I think that in our territory, something like this was "lost" ... with our "foreign partners"
    1. +12
      25 February 2020 18: 08
      Quote: svp67
      A normal "bookmark", I think that in our territory, something like this was "lost" ... with our "foreign partners"


      Only we do not shout about it on the "street", however, here is a special case - 33 years ...
      1. +28
        25 February 2020 18: 16
        lying in the right place and waiting in the wings.
        I didn’t wait ..
        1. +10
          25 February 2020 18: 23
          Quote: Rich
          lying in the right place and waiting in the wings.
          I didn’t wait ..

          Germans burned turnout ....... laughing
          1. +18
            25 February 2020 18: 33
            And the prints of Stirlitz and the Russian "pianist" ..
            1. +12
              25 February 2020 19: 29
              Then Putin served in the residency.
              But do not shoot the pianist - Frau needs to be finalized before retirement, she is the hope of a decent one.
              1. +3
                25 February 2020 20: 33
                Quote: bayard
                Then Putin served in the residency.

                Putin had nothing to do with this - this is not their product.
                1. +9
                  25 February 2020 21: 15
                  Quote: ccsr

                  Putin had nothing to do with this - this is not their product.

                  But fingerprints-Putin !!!
                  And the Merkel Angels.
                  laughing
                  1. +1
                    26 February 2020 01: 03
                    In the photo, goosebumps familiar design.
                  2. 0
                    26 February 2020 01: 06
                    I mean, the radio operator "Angel Merknet" - password for root? drinks
                2. +6
                  25 February 2020 21: 34
                  Quote: ccsr
                  Putin had nothing to do with this - this is not their product.

                  Comrade General, well, you’re already firing at the second office. drinks
                  These were simple Soviet mushroom pickers.
                  1. +2
                    29 May 2020 13: 09
                    Quote: bayard
                    These were simple Soviet mushroom pickers.

                    Yes, they were "mushroom pickers" when they had to switch to pasture:
              2. +37
                25 February 2020 21: 33
                Quote: bayard
                Then Putin served in the residency.
                But do not shoot the pianist - Frau needs to be finalized before retirement, she is the hope of a decent one.
                After reading this news, Angela Merkel threw felt slippers edged with plush on her bare feet, went into the kitchen and drank a shot of valerian. After a little thought and smoking a cigarette through the open window, she waved a second pile, took out the code tables from under the oilcloth, and set them on fire on the flame of the Rostok lighter, looking at how they turn into a gray ash mass. Having stirred the ashes with a toothpick, Angela sang in a whisper - "Hostile whirlwinds blow over us ...", but cutting off the song for half a verse, she said with a sigh - "Not useful" and turned off the light and proceeded to the bedchamber. Under the body of the Chancellor, the bed creaked and after a while, through a yawn, an almost indistinct voice was heard - "All the same, the devils dug them out through the rocker" - which was replaced by peaceful snoring.
                1. +15
                  25 February 2020 23: 43
                  Quote: Nyrobsky
                  Quote: bayard
                  Then Putin served in the residency.
                  But do not shoot the pianist - Frau needs to be finalized before retirement, she is the hope of a decent one.
                  After reading this news, Angela Merkel threw on her bare feet felt slippers edged with plush, went into the kitchen and drank a stack of valerian. [...].

                  good

                  But seriously?
                  Dad is a pastor. You never know what he will hear enough in confession ... Go to the "Stasi" himself - the parishioners will burn. But her daughter is a Komsomol member, and not the smallest packaging - she is fine, even supposed to.
                  "Father, do you hear, chops? And I take away ..."

                  That, of course, is my fantasy and assumptions - but why not? When the happy GDRs smashed the Stasi headquarters building, we were told that in the first place they happily burned the archives. She, guys, such pieces of paper do not burn. I am more than sure that those archives lie somewhere in Langley, and from time to time who should be studying them.
                  How else to explain that the leader of the proud Teutons, the economic locomotive of the European Union, almost the only self-sufficient country in Europe, is obedient to the United States, like a lapdog on a string? Not otherwise, someone's trained American hand firmly holds Angelin's wrinkled ass. That is - there is something to keep. "If the Stasi papers come out, you won't make it to retirement."
                  Somewhere like that.
                  1. +6
                    25 February 2020 23: 57
                    Quote: Zoldat_A
                    How else to explain that the leader of the proud Teutons, the economic locomotive of the European Union, almost the only self-sufficient country in Europe, is obedient to the United States, like a lapdog on a string? Not otherwise, someone's trained American hand firmly holds Angelin's wrinkled ass. That is - there is something to keep. "The papers of the Stasi will come out - you won't make it to retirement."

                    Something like this. She is in Germany, and the hook on which she is held is shaped like a rocker - a hook in the United States, and a hook in the Kremlin. But along the way, she is already tired of being afraid and is shipping us sanctions, and at the same time she begins to be insolent to the "hegemon." So SP-2, in spite of everything, was almost completed with her direct interest. If she had rested her horn, then they would not have started. hi
                  2. +2
                    26 February 2020 00: 02
                    Igor - you with the past! hi
                    1. +3
                      26 February 2020 00: 08
                      Quote: ANIMAL
                      Igor - you with the past! hi

                      drinks
                      1. +2
                        26 February 2020 00: 13
                        Thy papa is sorely lacking ... soldier
                      2. +4
                        26 February 2020 00: 17
                        Quote: ANIMAL
                        Thy papa is sorely lacking ... soldier

                        But I like ...
                        From the age of 20, when I came from the army, it was never once on February 23 that I and my father would not drink a glass for the Day of the Soviet Army and Navy.
                        This year - for the first time ...
                      3. +3
                        26 February 2020 00: 23
                        Quote: Zoldat_A
                        Quote: ANIMAL
                        Thy papa is sorely lacking ... soldier

                        But I like ...
                        From the age of 20, when I came from the army, it was never once on February 23 that I and my father would not drink a glass for the Day of the Soviet Army and Navy.
                        This year - for the first time ...

                        I only saw Him once ... and My Commander drank vodka with Him.
                        Although they served in different departments drinks
                2. 0
                  27 February 2020 14: 03
                  Forgot to add that in a dream she was horrified. After all, when he gives birth, he will scream in his native language. But she could not remember what native language? Then they got into the head of cattle slaughter stations and carved tongues.
            2. +2
              26 February 2020 04: 34
              Quote: 210ox
              And the prints of Stirlitz

              And come on ... it will all the same fall off ...
              1. 0
                27 February 2020 14: 04
                Traces of his bare heels.
          2. +3
            25 February 2020 19: 25
            Quote: neri73-r
            Quote: Rich
            lying in the right place and waiting in the wings.
            I didn’t wait ..

            Germans burned turnout ....... laughing

            Abwehr still works!
        2. +4
          25 February 2020 22: 11
          Quote: Rich
          I didn’t wait ..

          Glory to the Soviet Union! First thought. wink
          1. +3
            27 February 2020 09: 23
            Quote: Was Mammoth
            Quote: Rich
            I didn’t wait ..

            Glory to the Soviet Union! First thought. wink

            That's right - I serve the Soviet Union! wink
            "Glory! ..." - so now the Sumerians are shouting ... angry
            1. +2
              27 February 2020 09: 49
              Quote: Paul Siebert
              That's right - I serve the Soviet Union! wink
              "Glory! ..." - so now the Sumerians are shouting ...

              They shout. They scream a lot. Well, give them our language, our history? "Glory to the Soviet Union, the Soviet people ...", these are slogans from the USSR. Already some are shy about the rainbow, they even found the difference between normal and perverts. wink
              "I serve the Soviet Union!" Did not forget. drinks
              Who laid the station exactly said these words.
        3. +1
          26 February 2020 04: 32
          Quote: Rich
          lying in the right place and waiting in the wings.

          I didn’t ask for food, I didn’t touch anyone ... but her ...
          1. +4
            26 February 2020 05: 19
            Do they find 25% also relies? Batteries and headset?
            1. +2
              26 February 2020 05: 57
              Quote: Svarog51
              Do they find 25% also relies? Batteries and headset?

              But it’s interesting from the term for espionage, is the same quarter supposed to sit out? feel
              1. +1
                26 February 2020 06: 23
                Well, if the "archaeologists" fail to prove that they had no ties with the KGB, then perhaps they will sit down. recourse I wonder why they tried to discover the foundation of the Roman era mansion with a metal detector. Treasure hunters have made a legend in the BND?
                1. +2
                  26 February 2020 06: 26
                  Quote: Svarog51
                  I wonder why they tried to discover the foundation of the Roman era mansion with a metal detector.

                  Well, archaeologists use various devices in their expeditions ... Someone decided to go for a run with a mine detector, in order to find something "interesting", so he found it ...
                  1. +2
                    26 February 2020 06: 29
                    "Curiosity is not a vice, but such a hobby!" (c) The star and death of Joaquin Murietta.
        4. 0
          26 February 2020 09: 11
          Quote: Rich
          lying in the right place and waiting in the wings.
          I didn’t wait ..

          It doesn’t matter: 5 km to the south, one more .... Yes
          1. +1
            27 February 2020 11: 47
            Why are you right here in plain text ?? Let's tell you that 20 steps north of the one we found, a cache of ammunition, where parachutes were buried too, why then did we bury all this?)
        5. -1
          26 February 2020 11: 37
          Quote: Rich
          lying in the right place and waiting in the wings.
          I didn’t wait ..

          Actually, she’s already been on display in the museum for ten years, so no one needs it for a long time
    2. 0
      25 February 2020 19: 30
      Quote: svp67
      Normal "bookmark

      And if a parcel with a newer radio station had recently successfully gone, they would have found a more modern one. feel And so - Gorbachev is to blame ...
    3. +4
      25 February 2020 19: 34
      Stirlitz has never been so close to failure ...))) laughing
      1. +3
        25 February 2020 22: 41
        Chief of the Redskins (Nazarius): Never before has Stirlitz been so close to failure

        The old Soviet joke about Stirlitz, IMHO just in topic:
        On Monday, radio operator Ket woke up in a bad mood and with a fingal under her eye. Long painfully recalled what happened yesterday. I didn’t get into the Gestapo, I didn’t fight with anyone. We just sat with Stirlitz in a restaurant, danced, drank cognac. Everything is decorous and noble. Then we went to visit Pastor Slag and I lost my suitcase with a walkie-talkie laughing
        1. 0
          26 February 2020 04: 06
          Quote: Rich
          Old Soviet joke about Stirlitz

          While searching in the forest near Cologne for traces of a Roman-era mansion, they found a Soviet radio station
          Here, rather, the phrase from the film fits: "Did we destroy the mansion too?"
    4. +2
      25 February 2020 19: 53
      With her help, Russia elected TRUMP! And he will also elect.
      1. 0
        26 February 2020 00: 17
        Quote: Alex Nevs
        With her help, Russia elected TRUMP! And he will also elect.

        So the radio was "burned"! Now there is an ambush, where to call ?!
    5. +1
      25 February 2020 22: 02
      Quote: svp67
      A normal "bookmark", I think that in our territory, something like this was "lost" ... with our "foreign partners"

      If you dig deeper, you can stumble upon carrier pigeons in suspended animation. Echo of the "Hundred Years War"
    6. 0
      26 February 2020 00: 08
      Quote: svp67
      A normal "bookmark", I think that in our territory, something like this was "lost" ... with our "foreign partners"

      In our forests, all the drug tabs have already been dug up.
  2. +2
    25 February 2020 18: 02
    This radio station was intended for groups that tracked the location of the Pershing.
    1. +2
      25 February 2020 18: 20
      In December 1987, the INF Treaty was signed. So it is unlikely. It looks like a backup, just in case.
      1. +2
        25 February 2020 18: 56
        In this case, "the bookmark was made no earlier than 1988. It is probably not enough that the radio was produced in 1987 and immediately from the assembly line and into the" bookmark. "Probably between 1988 and 1990
    2. -3
      25 February 2020 20: 35
      Quote: Dzafdet
      This radio station was intended for groups that tracked the location of the Pershing.

      What did you get if Pershing was already in 1988 - 1989. brought out?
    3. +3
      25 February 2020 20: 54
      This radio station with amplitude telegraphy ...
      1. 0
        25 February 2020 21: 40
        Like this? To work with a morse code?
        1. +4
          25 February 2020 22: 23
          Almost so.
          Morse code))
          But you can pre-record what you want to convey.

          A rough explanation, such as for dummies, sorry.
          1. 0
            25 February 2020 22: 36
            Thanks. They have already explained below how it worked, with internal memory and frequency tuning.
        2. -2
          25 February 2020 23: 28
          Quote: Aviator_
          Like this? To work with a morse code?

          No one on the R-394KM operates on the key, it is forbidden, and is used in critical situations as an emergency mode, such as a radio beacon for an ejection pilot. But the radio operator of that time was obliged to be able to work on the key and conduct reception by ear, although, for example, in another KV correspondent device "Okolysh" there is no such mode at all. And this is due primarily to the requirements for the secrecy of communication.
      2. 0
        25 February 2020 21: 47
        Quote: Elena Zakharova
        This radio station with amplitude telegraphy ...

        Where did you get this from if phase-manipulated signals were used in high-speed mode? The amplitude mode was used only as a last resort, if it was impossible to use the drive, or some other breakdown happened. In order not to identify radio operators, they were generally forbidden to work in AM modes, you are simply not in the subject.
        1. +3
          25 February 2020 22: 21
          Quote: ccsr
          you are simply not in the subject.

          It is impossible to know everything.
          However, the special-purpose radio station which is the R-394 KM is a modernized version of the R-394 K, and even earlier the R-394.
          But back ....
          So, R-394 KR has two manipulations, relatively phase, and amplitude telegraphy.
          All.
          If you do not know what is relative-phase manipulation, I can explain.
          I can also explain how the R-394KR differs from the R-394K
          1. -2
            25 February 2020 23: 11
            Quote: Elena Zakharova
            If you do not know what is relative-phase manipulation, I can explain.
            I can also explain how the R-394KR differs from the R-394K

            No need to fantasize, because there were R-394, R-394K and R-394-KM.
            But this is not the point, but the fact that we are talking about the R-394KM, and the R-394KR is just a figment of your imagination.
            What else will you try to explain to me from correspondent means?
            1. +2
              26 February 2020 03: 42
              Quote: ccsr
              What else will you try to explain to me from correspondent means?

              P-355P Lumen-Lyapis What else have we had around such as Kedon? what bully
              1. -1
                26 February 2020 11: 16
                Quote: Ruslan67
                P-355P Lumen-Lyapis What else have we had around such as Kedon?

                Lots of things have been littered since the late fifties:
            2. 0
              26 February 2020 21: 13
              Quote: ccsr
              No need to fantasize

              Oliyatka, dear ...
              I do not copy the text from the agitation, but simply write.
              Therefore, my previous text should be read as R-394 KM.
              And not KR.

              Yes, but essentially, I correctly understand that you are swimming in the matter of manipulations of this unit?
              1. -1
                27 February 2020 11: 56
                Quote: Elena Zakharova
                Yes, but essentially, I correctly understand that you are swimming in the matter of manipulations of this unit?

                No, it’s you just talking nonsense about the AM mode. By the way, this mode was not planned at all during development, but the service insisted, however for you this is still a dark forest. The OFT mode was implemented in other products long before the appearance of the R-394KM, so do not teach me how to live.
                1. 0
                  27 February 2020 21: 10
                  I’m sure that the tanker saw this station only in the picture))
  3. Maz
    +4
    25 February 2020 18: 03
    This is what they found, and how many have not yet been found for a special occasion, hidden!
    1. -1
      26 February 2020 06: 01
      Quote: Maz
      This is what they found, and how many have not yet been found for a special occasion, hidden!

      Do you confess Maz, how much has everything been hidden from the Jews? You wipe their priests during the day, and do you bookmark them in the sand in the evening?
  4. 0
    25 February 2020 18: 05
    Another thing is much more interesting - how many Soviet HF radio stations have not been found? bully
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  5. +18
    25 February 2020 18: 05
    Nearby hung a parachute, budenovka and balalaika ...
    1. +2
      25 February 2020 18: 20
      Quote: 7,62x54
      Nearby hung a parachute, budenovka and balalaika ...

      A bottle of vodka and a cucumber forgot))
      1. +9
        25 February 2020 18: 38
        Do not forget. Immediately after the bookmark, everything was consumed. drinks
      2. +3
        25 February 2020 18: 48
        [quote = Coronel76] [quote = 7,62x54] Nearby hung a parachute, budenovka and balalaika ... [/ quote]
        A bottle of vodka and a cucumber forgot))
        There was an empty bottle of "Stolichnaya" and a rusty can of canned food: "Sprat in tomato" world snack "(" In the Greek hall "Raikin)
      3. +2
        25 February 2020 19: 06
        Quote: Coronel76
        Nearby hung a parachute, budenovka and balalaika ...

        A bottle of vodka and a cucumber forgot))


        Keyboard has marks in English with drawing on the keyboard Latin letters

        Where is the KLAVA on the P-394 ???
        Coded messages are usually sent in groups of 5 digits. When using amplitude modulation (AM), a radio station can send ~ 12 such groups per minute. However, when using phase modulation (FM), the speed of messages sent is increased to 167 groups per minute.

        Germans classified bully
  6. +3
    25 February 2020 18: 06
    The R-394KM radio station was produced since 1987, was intended to operate in the frequency range from 1,3 to 13,5 megahertz and had a transmitter range of about 1200 kilometers.


    Well, what will the sanctions be? or beyond the statute of limitations ... laughing
    1. +2
      25 February 2020 19: 08
      Quote: cniza
      The R-394KM radio station was produced since 1987, was intended to operate in the frequency range from 1,3 to 13,5 megahertz and had a transmitter range of about 1200 kilometers.


      Well, what will the sanctions be? or beyond the statute of limitations ...

      Not the fact that 1987 was a "bookmark".
      The R-394KM radio station replaced the R-394K in 1987, although there is information that the Swift KM was used by the USSR army special services since 1984.
      1. +2
        25 February 2020 22: 34
        Not the fact that 1987 was a "bookmark".


        It’s not a fact that it’s a bookmark at all ... The guys bought the station at a flea market, dug it up and dug it out for joy, likes and views ... Why not the version?
        Piltdown Man is a world-class scam ... laughing
  7. +2
    25 February 2020 18: 06
    Tainichёk Gro wink
    1. +5
      25 February 2020 18: 45
      Quote: Sergey 777
      Tainichёk Gro wink

      Well, rather, it’s still not GRU, but 3 OBRSpN.
      1. +4
        25 February 2020 18: 53
        .... keemka .... !!!))))
        1. +6
          25 February 2020 18: 56
          Quote: Talgat 148
          .... keemka .... !!!))))

          Recognized? There is a reason for surrender to write laughing
      2. -1
        25 February 2020 20: 38
        Quote: Doliva63
        Well, rather, it’s still not GRU, but 3 OBRSpN.

        No, this did not have a relationship with the 3rd — they had their own staff with Russian inscriptions.
        1. +2
          26 February 2020 03: 46
          Quote: ccsr
          they had their own staff with Russian inscriptions.

          My pro, which was higher in English and heavier than the infection recourse
          1. -1
            26 February 2020 11: 21
            Quote: Ruslan67
            My pro, which was higher in English and heavier than the infection

            I think you had from an old park, which came to you from some small part where it was used for training.
            1. +1
              26 February 2020 17: 27
              Quote: ccsr
              it came to you from some small part where it was used for training.

              Yes Only I was in such a small part where we taught laughing Well, at the same time, he also dragged on himself like a damn am In Kola and northern Karelia At that time, it was zero from warehouse A 355 without p and was 12 kg My 15
              1. +1
                26 February 2020 17: 29
                P.S. 1987 soldier
        2. 0
          26 February 2020 18: 53
          Quote: ccsr
          Quote: Doliva63
          Well, rather, it’s still not GRU, but 3 OBRSpN.

          No, this did not have a relationship with the 3rd — they had their own staff with Russian inscriptions.

          Well, not the army company did the bookmark! laughing As another option: p / s of our German comrades, who were "sharpened" for cooperation in case of war.
  8. 0
    25 February 2020 18: 07
    Syrian refugees brought with them - are preparing for the New Year.
    - Mahmoud, here is Khattab. Reception! I see three unaccompanied white women.
    “Khattab, welcome!” - even without men in skirts?
    - Walla, ish! No one.
    - Cover! Reception!
    Aw, girl, why is the eye so shady?
    1. +1
      25 February 2020 18: 41
      Actually, in 1987 there weren’t so many blacks in Germany yet, and it’s so cool
      1. 0
        25 February 2020 18: 50
        Hi! hi
        So the 1987 radio station could well be locked with itself laughing
        1. +4
          25 February 2020 19: 18
          Quote: Krasnodar
          Hi! hi
          So the 1987 radio station could well be locked with itself laughing

          If these are archaeologists who were engaged in the Amber Room in the GDR, they could, of course laughing
  9. +3
    25 February 2020 18: 09
    And where is the balloon with the "newbie"? bully
  10. +8
    25 February 2020 18: 09
    Hiley Likely, go through the hospital, where Kat gives birth!
    1. 0
      26 February 2020 05: 41
      Late, the kid is already about 30. And mother retired after seniority.
  11. +7
    25 February 2020 18: 09
    External intelligence of the KGB taxied and competed with the CIA around the world, until the rotten top -spark came to power: Gorbi and EBN .....
    1. +1
      25 February 2020 18: 47
      Quote: anjey
      External intelligence of the KGB taxied and competed with the CIA around the world, until the rotten top -spark came to power: Gorbi and EBN .....

      And the head of the KGB at the same time raised Chubais, Gaidar, etc. Or are you not in the know?
      1. +2
        25 February 2020 18: 50
        The "fish" of the power of the USSR, rotted from the head, I don't argue with that, then everything fell apart like a house of cards.

    2. 0
      25 February 2020 20: 21
      Quote: anjey
      External intelligence of the KGB taxied and competed with the CIA around the world, until the rotten top -spark came to power: Gorbi and EBN .....

      External has nothing to do with it. Under Khrushchev, the KGB was strictly forbidden to look after members of the Communist Party at all levels of leadership. Under Stalin there was a constant purge, but then decay and swamp began.
    3. Kaw
      +1
      25 February 2020 20: 22
      And the KGB was headed by Andropov. It was he who began perestroika. Gorbachev was his right hand.
      1. Kaw
        0
        25 February 2020 20: 23
        Probably more correct since Gorbachev under Andropov was like Medvedev under Putin.
        1. -1
          26 February 2020 00: 40
          Even recently, it seems to me that with the last two everything is exactly the opposite ..
  12. +1
    25 February 2020 18: 10
    here, too, the news to me) they found a bookmark) and who does not have them? German intelligence probably purebred and do not go for that?)))) yeah. Shaz.
  13. +6
    25 February 2020 18: 13
    This is a setup. It is unlikely that ours would shine with the Soviet radio)
    1. +2
      25 February 2020 18: 52
      Quote: icant007
      This is a setup. It is unlikely that ours would shine with the Soviet radio)

      No, of course, ours would glow with the Chinese laughing So, exactly the Soviet bookmark.
      1. 0
        25 February 2020 20: 26
        There have already been several scandals when they are trying to send Soviet equipment to the west, ostensibly for collectors. Well, apparently they managed to smuggle this radio station, and then presented it with a story as they found it ....
        1. -1
          26 February 2020 18: 53
          Quote: Genry
          Well, apparently they managed to transport this radio station, and then presented it with a story as they found it ....

          This is overkill - the R-394KM was also produced in Bulgaria under license, and in our former Union republics there were many of them in parts of the Special Forces. Given that their service life is 10-15 years, they have all been discarded for a long time, and are unlikely to be of any kind of rarity from the point of view of uniqueness, so they cannot be expensive. Any correspondent radio station from strategic intelligence will cost much more - this is a fact.
    2. 0
      26 February 2020 14: 30
      You are right at 1000%! And bookmarks are not made there - there are places where no one can even accidentally find, and, most interestingly, you can control it daily from about 8.00:17.00 to XNUMX:XNUMX, and only pick it up at night. And you don’t have to spend money on flowers at night, which is important. In the afternoon, it is undesirable, since visitors go and a random pun from local ...
  14. +1
    25 February 2020 18: 13
    And they say that the Russians are trying to influence the elections in Germany
  15. +5
    25 February 2020 18: 19
    Nonsense. Military products do not have any markings, with a trademark, serial number, year of manufacture.
    There is encrypted marking, which is assigned by a special technique. So nearby products released have completely different numbers. And there it is not possible to understand the encryption methods.
    Stolen in a military unit by a warrant for sale, and sprinkled with prying eyes.
    1. +6
      25 February 2020 18: 46
      Quote: Victor March 47
      Stolen in a military unit by a warrant for sale, and sprinkled with prying eyes

      The radio station was found in the Hamburg Forest 30 kilometers west of Cologne.


      In June 1945, Cologne enters the British occupation zone.


      Cologne (North Rhine-Westphalia), the fourth largest population city and the third largest city in Germany, did not host the Northern Fleet in the Federal Republic of Germany; therefore, there could be no legal ensigns. wassat .
      If prapor "sprinkled" a walkie-talkie in Germany means that he definitely didn’t steal, but carried out the Command / order / command assignment. good
      1. +1
        25 February 2020 19: 03
        And after the unification of Germany and before the withdrawal of the GSVG, our military was forbidden to the territory of Zap. Germany to enter?
        1. 0
          25 February 2020 19: 32
          Quote: icant007
          And after the unification of Germany and before the withdrawal of the GSVG, our military was forbidden to the territory of Zap. Germany to enter?


          For us, the servicemen of the Soviet Armed Forces, this border did not cease to exist even after the reunification of Germany.

          According to preliminary information, about 1000 servicemen have left the location of the Group's units. 600 former Russian servicemen who had fled earlier from the Western Group of Russian Forces (WGV) were denied political asylum in Germany, and after the expiry of their "permits for their residence in Germany" in 1997 they should be expelled to Russia. However, later these 600 people were "amnestied" by Germany, that is, they were not extradited to the Russian authorities and were left in Germany.

          Some corporal who bought a walkie-talkie from the ensign during the withdrawal of troops could "dig in".
        2. +2
          25 February 2020 19: 41
          Quote: icant007
          And after the unification of Germany and before the withdrawal of the GSVG, our military was forbidden to the territory of Zap. Germany to enter?

          I don’t know, like everywhere else, but in the south it was no problem even before unification, from the 89th.
        3. +2
          25 February 2020 20: 44
          Quote: icant007
          And after the unification of Germany and before the withdrawal of the GSVG, our military was forbidden to the territory of Zap. Germany to enter?

          Yes, it was forbidden to travel to Western lands, and if they had been caught, they would have immediately been sent to the Union. But there were official trips at the invitation of the authorities - even went to the Bundestag in Bonn until he was transferred to Berlin.
    2. 0
      25 February 2020 19: 56
      Yes, there is a signature: "There was PUTIN V.V." laughing They just couldn’t saturate the metal with milk ... between the lines ... laughing
    3. +2
      25 February 2020 20: 42
      Quote: Victor March 47
      Stolen in a military unit by a warrant for sale, and sprinkled with prying eyes.

      Actually, it was secret, so the ensign would have been provided with a prison. Other versions did not occur?
  16. +9
    25 February 2020 18: 21
    Stirlitz sat down and thought.
    "1987? Hitler kaput ... for a long time? Is radio operator Kat still alive? This is another trap of Bormann-Merkle ..."
  17. +11
    25 February 2020 18: 25
    Pastor Schlag is alive !!!!
    1. +2
      25 February 2020 19: 19
      Journalistic investigation. Eustace confirmed in his diary. Incredible: Pleischner just twisted his leg, jumping out of the window. And still hiding in the forests near Cologne. In 1987 he was sent a new walkie-talkie.
  18. +2
    25 February 2020 18: 35
    Just the same plot for an espionage novel: on the instructions of the Kremlin, Marcus Wolf left the transmitter for Agent Mouse, and he became interested in beauty and forgot
  19. +1
    25 February 2020 18: 44
    Dembel stumbled.
  20. +3
    25 February 2020 18: 45
    I lost it, return it. Yes
    1. +1
      26 February 2020 10: 59
      And what did you do there: collected mushrooms?
      1. +1
        26 February 2020 12: 25
        Quote: vladcub
        And what did you do there: collected mushrooms?

        We played in the lightning, I forgot where I hid it.
  21. +4
    25 February 2020 18: 49
    Quote: Victor March 47
    Nonsense. Military products do not have any markings, with a trademark, serial number, year of manufacture.
    There is encrypted marking, which is assigned by a special technique. So nearby products released have completely different numbers. And there it is not possible to understand the encryption methods.
    Stolen in a military unit by a warrant for sale, and sprinkled with prying eyes.

    Take, for example, an automatic machine. Military product. Exclusively. And there is a serial number, year of manufacture and brand of the plant. How so?
  22. +1
    25 February 2020 18: 50
    Eustace Alex. the smoking room is alive. bully
  23. 0
    25 February 2020 18: 58
    In what interesting year did they put her there?
    1. +3
      25 February 2020 19: 04
      Quote: TermNachTER
      In what interesting year did they put her there?

      I suspect that in 88-89
      1. +1
        25 February 2020 19: 05
        What's the point? In those years, was something planned?
        1. +3
          25 February 2020 19: 10
          Quote: TermNachTER
          What's the point? In those years, was something planned?

          In those years, everything was planned laughing And here - the replacement at the expiration of the term, apparently. The station is new at that time. This is after the 89th in the GSVG only pockets were stuffed.
          1. 0
            25 February 2020 21: 07
            With the current means of communication - satellites, the Internet, etc. - this is no longer relevant.
            1. +2
              26 February 2020 18: 44
              Quote: TermNachTER
              With the current means of communication - satellites, the Internet, etc. - this is no longer relevant.

              How many satellites and the Internet, etc. will work if a real war starts?
              1. -2
                27 February 2020 19: 03
                If the real ruble goes, then through such a station there are many and far from transmitting.
                1. 0
                  27 February 2020 19: 36
                  Quote: TermNachTER
                  If the real ruble goes, then through such a station there are many and far from transmitting.

                  Why? The GSVG was just "sharpened" for this kind of "chopping". And you don't need to transfer a lot:
                  well, the edge, up to 30 5-digit groups in the performance mode - if they are recorded, then like white noise, probably.
                  1. 0
                    28 February 2020 16: 08
                    GSVG is gone. If Rubilovo goes, then in a completely different scenario.
                    1. 0
                      28 February 2020 17: 16
                      Quote: TermNachTER
                      GSVG is gone. If Rubilovo goes, then in a completely different scenario.

                      So and I do not argue. But if someone can receive the signal of this r / s in the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, then she will fulfill her task.
  24. -1
    25 February 2020 19: 02
    Quote: Serg Koma
    Quote: Victor March 47
    Stolen in a military unit by a warrant for sale, and sprinkled with prying eyes

    The radio station was found in the Hamburg Forest 30 kilometers west of Cologne.


    In June 1945, Cologne enters the British occupation zone.


    Cologne (North Rhine-Westphalia), the fourth largest population city and the third largest city in Germany, did not host the Northern Fleet in the Federal Republic of Germany; therefore, there could be no legal ensigns. wassat .
    If prapor "sprinkled" a walkie-talkie in Germany means that he definitely didn’t steal, but carried out the Command / order / command assignment. good

    There have never been Italians in my village. But, however, I have something made in Milan. And what did you want to prove this?
  25. +5
    25 February 2020 19: 03
    While searching in the forest near Cologne for traces of a Roman-era mansion, they found a Soviet radio station

    And what about the mansion?
  26. +2
    25 February 2020 19: 03
    Quote: 7,62x54
    Nearby hung a parachute, budenovka and balalaika ...

    And where did the bear go? Let go of the dairy cowsheds on free loafs :-)
    1. 0
      28 February 2020 16: 09
      No, a bear with gypsies, went to the Bauers "to breed for the grandmother."
  27. +1
    25 February 2020 19: 04
    Well, they found it and found it. Why shout it to the whole world? If something is not clear, then questions to M.S.Gorbachev, he lives in Germany. He was then in full charge in the country. tongue
  28. -1
    25 February 2020 19: 07
    Quote: Doliva63
    Quote: Victor March 47
    Nonsense. Military products do not have any markings, with a trademark, serial number, year of manufacture.
    There is encrypted marking, which is assigned by a special technique. So nearby products released have completely different numbers. And there it is not possible to understand the encryption methods.
    Stolen in a military unit by a warrant for sale, and sprinkled with prying eyes.

    Take, for example, an automatic machine. Military product. Exclusively. And there is a serial number, year of manufacture and brand of the plant. How so?

    Don’t you understand that there are products for millionth use and for special operations? It’s stupid to hide a product, to keep it secret, even when it is known on Mars. And it interferes with the search for the criminal who kidnapped and used him for his own purposes. A reconnaissance group, equipped with Soviet passports, cell phones, laptops, with numbers, the year of manufacture .... Somehow it slightly contradicts ... Do not you find?
    It’s clear that if you can’t supply the group with iron of someone else’s manufacture, then they give their own, but with the details removed. For, any figure can help reveal the purpose of the operation.
    1. 0
      27 February 2020 20: 00
      Quote: Victor March 47
      Quote: Doliva63
      Quote: Victor March 47
      Nonsense. Military products do not have any markings, with a trademark, serial number, year of manufacture.
      There is encrypted marking, which is assigned by a special technique. So nearby products released have completely different numbers. And there it is not possible to understand the encryption methods.
      Stolen in a military unit by a warrant for sale, and sprinkled with prying eyes.

      Take, for example, an automatic machine. Military product. Exclusively. And there is a serial number, year of manufacture and brand of the plant. How so?

      Don’t you understand that there are products for millionth use and for special operations? It’s stupid to hide a product, to keep it secret, even when it is known on Mars. And it interferes with the search for the criminal who kidnapped and used him for his own purposes. A reconnaissance group, equipped with Soviet passports, cell phones, laptops, with numbers, the year of manufacture .... Somehow it slightly contradicts ... Do not you find?
      It’s clear that if you can’t supply the group with iron of someone else’s manufacture, then they give their own, but with the details removed. For, any figure can help reveal the purpose of the operation.

      Do not find it strange to strip off the marking from the radio station when the machine guns in the group are Soviet, the uniform is Soviet, even the inscriptions on the dry solder are all in Russian! laughing And then their "counters" are quite aware of what the bulk of all our "products" looks like, ripping off the labels will not save. And by the number of the machine or radio station - how to determine the purpose of the operation? No way. No, we had warehouses with NATO weapons, we even fired from them, there was equipment, but it was not supposed to be massively used, to put it mildly. We're talking about army special forces. We do not consider individual "military organizational special measures" due to their rarity.
  29. +2
    25 February 2020 19: 11
    Quote: faterdom
    Pastor Schlag is alive !!!!

    Dr. Pleischner slipped a candy in place of potassium cyanide. Bastards. And here we went.
  30. +1
    25 February 2020 19: 20
    The radio operator Kat during the shooting lost ....)))))
  31. +1
    25 February 2020 19: 26
    Most likely the radio station was intended for our agent from among foreigners, as a communication channel for a special period
    1. +3
      25 February 2020 19: 38
      It is necessary to give an announcement in the local newspaper:

      "Lost a radio station of such and such a 1987 release, please report to the local police station")))
      1. +3
        25 February 2020 20: 35
        Quote: icant007
        It is necessary to give an announcement in the local newspaper:
        "Lost a radio station of such and such a 1987 release, please report to the local police station")))
        And in addition to jokes, these handsome men (I mean the BND) are seriously recruiting German citizens to work in their department through ... posting ads on the subway. fellow Such a bottom ... wassat
    2. 0
      26 February 2020 14: 33
      Quite possible!
  32. +1
    25 February 2020 19: 37
    Quote: Doliva63
    Quote: Sergey 777
    Tainichёk Gro wink

    Well, rather, it’s still not GRU, but 3 OBRSpN.

    A 3 OBRSpN is not in the structure of Gro !?
    1. +2
      25 February 2020 20: 53
      Quote: Sergey 777
      A 3 OBRSpN is not in the structure of Gro !?

      In theory, in the structure of the GSVG, they were subordinate to them.
      1. 0
        26 February 2020 15: 19
        You apparently do not know that in the Soviet and Russian Army there are two lines of submission. Administrative and operational. Promptly, of course, they were subordinate to the head of the division of the GSVG command because they were part of this group of troops. But administratively they were part of the GRU.
        1. 0
          26 February 2020 16: 19
          Quote: Sergey 777
          You apparently do not know that in the Soviet and Russian Army there are two lines of submission.

          Apparently, I know.
          For example, the RAV depots, on the one hand, are subordinate to the regiment commander, and on the other, the RAV service. However, they are sadly not directly reporting to GRAU.
          Unlike, for example, the base GRAU, which may be nearby. And do not obey either the regiment, or the division, or the army, or even the district. And directly and directly GRAU.

          Here and here .... Are you sure that the third separate special-purpose brigade was directly subordinate to the Main Intelligence Directorate, and not to the group of forces?
          As it was at the bases and arsenals of the GRAU .... Or as it was at the 12th GU MO.
          For example, RTB and PRTB deployed in the GDR were not subordinate to the group of forces. Generally. And they directly obeyed the 12th GU MO
        2. 0
          26 February 2020 16: 34
          And yes, if I’m not mistaken, only two brigades were directly subordinate to the GRAU. In Mongolia.
        3. -2
          26 February 2020 18: 21
          Quote: Sergey 777
          But administratively they were part of the GRU.

          Special Forces brigades were not part of the central subordination of the GRU, so you are wrong. SPN brigades were part of the district intelligence kit, as were OSN brigades, although different structures of the GRU were responsible for them by virtue of orders and directives of the Ministry of Defense.
          1. -1
            26 February 2020 22: 37
            Most of the units that you brought in promptly obeyed the divisions of the management of groups of forces and military districts. But the intelligence of the districts was controlled by the fifth Directorate of the GRU, which was engaged in operational intelligence. So 3 OBRSpN was either directly under the authority of the 5th GRU Directorate or, more likely, they were subordinate to the intelligence department of the GSVG, which were subordinate to the aforementioned GRU. DOS went along line 6 of the Office seems.
            PS Caches in case of war were laid by GRU officers from the residency of the country where the caches were, well, or the neighboring one. No one would throw paratroopers in peacetime over the FRG, especially during perestroika. Yes, and Latin letters on the keyboard. Most likely a backup link for a recruited agent.
            1. -1
              27 February 2020 12: 02
              Quote: Sergey 777
              But district intelligence was controlled by the fifth GRU,

              You are mistaken, because there were several types of intelligence and, in terms of work, they were controlled by different structures of the GRU. And the first department was generally a nomenclature of ground forces - so you should not interfere with everything in a heap.
              Quote: Sergey 777
              Caches in case of war were laid by GRU officers from the residency of the country where the caches were, well, or the neighboring one.

              There were three communication missions - this is just for your information.
              Quote: Sergey 777
              No one would throw paratroopers in peacetime over the FRG, especially during perestroika.

              Even if they were thrown out, they would be with their regular means of communication.
              1. 0
                27 February 2020 13: 02
                Even if they were thrown out, they would be with their regular means of communication.
                Which once again proves that the brigades of the Special Forces were not related to this radio station.
                1. 0
                  27 February 2020 13: 15
                  Quote: Sergey 777
                  Which once again proves that the brigades of the Special Forces were not related to this radio station.

                  100% off.
        4. 0
          27 February 2020 20: 26
          Quote: Sergey 777
          You apparently do not know that in the Soviet and Russian Army there are two lines of submission. Administrative and operational. Promptly, of course, they were subordinate to the head of the division of the GSVG command because they were part of this group of troops. But administratively they were part of the GRU.

          There has never been administrative subordination in the CA.
    2. +1
      27 February 2020 20: 25
      Quote: Sergey 777
      Quote: Doliva63
      Quote: Sergey 777
      Tainichёk Gro wink

      Well, rather, it’s still not GRU, but 3 OBRSpN.

      A 3 OBRSpN is not in the structure of Gro !?

      The GRU’s structure was everything from SMB reconnaissance to illegal immigrantslaughing But their subordination was different. 3 OBRSPN was subordinate to the headquarters of the GSVG when she was there. All reconnaissance services work for "their" troops - a reconnaissance platoon for a battalion, a company for a regiment, a reconnaissance battalion for a division, ORRSPN for an army, OBRSpn for a district / group / front, until they are withdrawn from their subordination, and the GRU, in fact, only closes this information chain. Well, in short drinks
      1. +1
        28 February 2020 11: 33
        Quote: Doliva63
        The GRU, in fact, only closes this information chain. Well, in short

        All is correct. But we must add that the GRU has its own parts of central subordination, which are not subordinate to the district (group) command and work only in the interests of the GRU.
  33. +1
    25 February 2020 20: 01
    This aunt Kat hid !!! We must return to their homeland !!!!!
  34. +4
    25 February 2020 20: 03
    This Bashirov and Petrov made a bookmark !!!!
    1. +2
      25 February 2020 20: 12
      The Salisberez Spire is an antenna.
  35. -1
    25 February 2020 20: 10
    The largest spy radio station in the world. And she is still without batteries.
    1. 0
      25 February 2020 21: 56
      Quote: iouris
      The largest spy radio station in the world. And she is still without batteries.

      In fact, this station had such characteristics for the time that it was one of the best in the world in terms of mass and size characteristics and range of applications. So you are fundamentally wrong, especially since it was developed for the operational intelligence link.
  36. AAK
    +1
    25 February 2020 20: 12
    Stirlitz and Kat have never been so close to failure ... :)))
  37. Kaw
    0
    25 February 2020 20: 14
    I wonder whose fingerprints they find? smile
  38. +3
    25 February 2020 20: 29
    I worked on 354. This is a radio for special forces. A good thing. A set of radiograms on a numeric keypad in memory. Radiogram no more than 50 groups. Communication session with changing frequencies! 5 minutes. Here and think for whom and for what.
  39. +1
    25 February 2020 20: 31
    If memory serves me 354. Weight 12 kg with food.
  40. 0
    25 February 2020 20: 35
    Well ?
    Who needs it now, but in the case of a throw to the La Manche, it would be very useful!
  41. +1
    25 February 2020 20: 43
    These are the things that used to be done, but now all the spools with mobile phones are running.
  42. +2
    25 February 2020 20: 44
    Quote: Balu
    I lost it, return it. Yes

    Address?
    1. +1
      25 February 2020 22: 23
      Quote: Victor March 47
      Quote: Balu
      I lost it, return it. Yes

      Address?

      Pompotech said they had written off. Nevermind. Let the Fritz choke! angry
  43. +1
    25 February 2020 20: 46
    Quote: icant007
    It is necessary to give an announcement in the local newspaper:

    "Lost a radio station of such and such a 1987 release, please report to the local police station")))

    Add if- ... "For a large reward ..."
    Thousands will come. You can choose any.
  44. +1
    25 February 2020 20: 55
    Quote: 25739
    I worked on 354. This is a radio for special forces. A good thing. A set of radiograms on a numeric keypad in memory. Radiogram no more than 50 groups. Communication session with changing frequencies! 5 minutes. Here and think for whom and for what.

    Bumblebee. And also the message was perforated on an ordinary film, punctures in a certain combination and stretching through the device, quickly and quickly telegraphed into the air.
    The space connection ruined so many good ideas!
    https://habr.com/ru/company/ua-hosting/blog/411383/
    1. +2
      25 February 2020 22: 00
      Quote: Victor March 47
      The space connection ruined so many good ideas!

      Space communications will never replace HF radio stations in reconnaissance, if only because satellite lines are crushed by EW forces, and a high-speed (or slow-acting) low-power HF radio station is almost impossible to suppress.
      1. +2
        26 February 2020 22: 48
        In this you are absolutely right. I think there are already digital versions of this system. So that will serve.
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  46. +7
    25 February 2020 21: 07
    Fresh what news. The radio station was found in August last year. There are no typos in the publication, the radio station is named correctly - R-394KM.
    Ten kilometers from the place of discovery - Julich Research Center, one of the largest European research centers, including in the field of nuclear physics. It has one of the largest supercomputers in the world - JUQUEEN.
  47. +6
    25 February 2020 21: 10
    Thanks for the news. It takes pride directly :)
    Not to the topic, but to the topic. Communicated on axis history with one interlocutor from Scotland, he lives in such an opera that the bus runs to them once every couple of days, and so. He asked me what the inscription that he saw in the local pub in waterlozet, which is 300 years old at lunch, DMB-1979, means. He “googled” that it was something Russian army, but did not understand. I explained to him for a long time, but damn, to tears! :)))))
    1. +1
      27 February 2020 20: 34
      Quote: Blue Fox
      Thanks for the news. It takes pride directly :)
      Not to the topic, but to the topic. Communicated on axis history with one interlocutor from Scotland, he lives in such an opera that the bus runs to them once every couple of days, and so. He asked me what the inscription that he saw in the local pub in waterlozet, which is 300 years old at lunch, DMB-1979, means. He “googled” that it was something Russian army, but did not understand. I explained to him for a long time, but damn, to tears! :)))))

      That's great! laughing drinks
  48. +8
    25 February 2020 21: 11
    Yes, what a Stirlitz! fool
    This is not our bookmark at all.
    We would have stood for this MON-50 radio station.
    Stopudovo! Yes
    1. 0
      27 February 2020 20: 36
      Quote: ugol2
      Yes, what a Stirlitz! fool
      This is not our bookmark at all.
      We would have stood for this MON-50 radio station.
      Stopudovo! Yes

      Not "for", but under. Not MON, but OZM laughing
  49. BAI
    +1
    25 February 2020 21: 41
    Of greatest interest is the container, which made it possible to keep the radio station in this state.
    1. +1
      28 February 2020 18: 56
      Quote: BAI
      Of greatest interest is the container, which made it possible to keep the radio station in this state.

      Indeed, the container was unique, and if the radio station was made at the Sarapul Radio Plant, the container was made in a more serious structure. Time has shown that they did very well.
  50. +3
    25 February 2020 22: 45
    Quote: ccsr
    Quote: Victor March 47
    The space connection ruined so many good ideas!

    Space communications will never replace HF radio stations in reconnaissance, if only because satellite lines are crushed by EW forces, and a high-speed (or slow-acting) low-power HF radio station is almost impossible to suppress.

    You are mistaken. You can suppress everything. Moreover, low-power short-wave. The problem here is not suppression, believe me, I have been amateur on the air since 1962 (I received my first radio call sign), the thing is to disguise the broadcast. If you do not suspect that a text message is mounted in the transfer of photos of your favorite cat over the Internet, then you will not press this package. It is possible to calculate a low-power radio station with a scanning receiver in a hundredth of a second. Technique does wonders. And automatically turn on the jammer. And if you find a program, then strangle .... Now try to guess that the grandmother in New York did not receive a cat, but the text decoded by the program ... Or in Moscow. By the way, you can listen to ham radio.
    http://websdr.ewi.utwente.nl:8901
    Well, it’s just to press the air out of fear that the enemy is somewhere nearby ..., crushing your own receivers, no one will be, no matter what electronic warfare you have.
    1. +1
      25 February 2020 23: 43
      Quote: Victor March 47
      It is possible to calculate a low-power radio station with a scanning receiver in a hundredth of a second.

      Have you heard anything about Okolysh and its power? You get tired of detecting and identifying him, if he chooses the right place of transmission, and even on some foreign registered frequency will go on the air. All GDR counterintelligence failed to discover his work when they were first shown his capabilities for the first time. At least the counterintelligence bodies will not have time to take the radio operator, especially if he observes the rules of communication and changes the broadcast locations.
      Quote: Victor March 47
      Well, it’s just to press the air out of fear that the enemy is somewhere nearby ..., crushing your own receivers, no one will be, no matter what electronic warfare you have.

      It was about satellite communications - they will definitely be crushed, unlike the HF band.
  51. 0
    25 February 2020 22: 55
    Quote: BAI
    Of greatest interest is the container, which made it possible to keep the radio station in this state.

    The Soviet lumen is the most durable in the world. What nice pots on the heads of our neighbors! First grade. This is where the Quality Mark should be minted.
  52. 0
    25 February 2020 23: 07
    In the forest near Cologne, archaeologists found a Soviet radio station
    Funny. "Archaeologists" lol And do you see a piano here...near Cologne! winked
  53. 0
    25 February 2020 23: 37
    Life's affairs. And you need to hide it more carefully.
    1. +1
      26 February 2020 14: 36
      It's a lie. Ours wouldn't hide it like that. A direct question to you - would you personally hide it God knows how and where in the forest?!?
      1. -1
        26 February 2020 18: 56
        No, although I'm not a scout. It’s also strange - what kind of “archaeologists” were doing in the forest?
  54. +1
    26 February 2020 00: 05
    Stirlitz's hiding place has failed... now the creatures will go hysterical
  55. 0
    26 February 2020 00: 16
    Quote: cniza
    Quote: svp67
    A normal "bookmark", I think that in our territory, something like this was "lost" ... with our "foreign partners"


    Only we do not shout about it on the "street", however, here is a special case - 33 years ...

    That's what they did. Quality for many years.
  56. 0
    26 February 2020 00: 44
    Quote: ccsr
    Quote: Victor March 47
    It is possible to calculate a low-power radio station with a scanning receiver in a hundredth of a second.

    Have you heard anything about Okolysh and its power? You get tired of detecting and identifying him, if he chooses the right place of transmission, and even on some foreign registered frequency will go on the air. All GDR counterintelligence failed to discover his work when they were first shown his capabilities for the first time. At least the counterintelligence bodies will not have time to take the radio operator, especially if he observes the rules of communication and changes the broadcast locations.
    Quote: Victor March 47
    Well, it’s just to press the air out of fear that the enemy is somewhere nearby ..., crushing your own receivers, no one will be, no matter what electronic warfare you have.

    It was about satellite communications - they will definitely be crushed, unlike the HF band.

    Bullshit. The radio station is absolutely invisible and undetectable as long as it is silent. Once it is turned on even FOR RECEPTION (not even for transmission!) it is already detected by the operation of a circuit called a local oscillator, which is part of the receiver. And, especially, a working transmitter. A local oscillator is an auxiliary high-frequency generator, and if it works, it can be caught. The point is the density of receiving devices, which can be installed as cellular stations and with computer network control, calculate the coordinates in a split second, and jam them if the signal is suspicious. Do you guarantee that the cells do not perform such a task even now?
    Having seen enough spy films! There is no need to hide the signal; if it is coming, then there is no need to look for it. He reveals himself. It is necessary to MASK the signal under naive programs, pasting your own content into them. At least one example of the work of space communications crushers in our time today. And what? Any facts? But isn’t enemy information coming through communication channels today, yesterday? Pressure EVERYTHING, including your own programs too? Are you already...? Talk nonsense about the micro-power Okolysh. How can you shoot tens of thousands of kilometers to the Center using microwatts? Isn't it easier to catch him with a working direction finder nearby? Loser. The signal strength decreases in inverse proportion to the SQUARE OF THE DISTANCE.
    1. -1
      26 February 2020 12: 02
      Quote: Victor March 47
      The point is the density of receiving devices, which can be installed as cellular stations and with computer network control,

      In the HF band? And who will give you such an opportunity - telecom operators will send you away and that’s all over.
      Quote: Victor March 47
      Once it is turned on even FOR RECEPTION (not even for transmission!) it is already detected by the operation of a circuit called a local oscillator, which is part of the receiver.

      Radio counterintelligence is not strong enough to detect something like this in a metropolis or over a large area.
      Quote: Victor March 47
      There is no need to hide the signal; if it is coming, then there is no need to look for it. He reveals himself.

      Why then was XNUMX-hour radio silence carried out at least once a month? Or do you not know what it is?
      Quote: Victor March 47
      Talk nonsense about the micro-power Okolysh. How can you shoot tens of thousands of kilometers to the Center using microwatts?

      In this case, you are delusional - "Okolysh" has a range of up to 1,5 thousand km, and operational reconnaissance is not interested in ranges of up to 10 thousand km. The R-394KM radio station is from this link, and therefore up to 10 thousand do not work on it. Do you even know how special radio communications differ at the operational and strategic levels? It looks like you are still a mess in your head, like most radio amateurs.
      Study at your leisure what was developed sixty years ago in strategic special radio communications:


      Quote: Victor March 47
      Losers.

      In fact, you are just an amateur in matters of special radio communications, and your knowledge has remained at the amateur radio level, at least you studied what “Lun” is for a start, maybe you will find out what powers were used. Some specialists on the Lunya even worked at distances of up to 8 thousand km, but under certain conditions, you are simply not in the know.
  57. 0
    26 February 2020 01: 15
    The following is interesting:
    1. When was it buried? To understand how many years the device has been kept in the ground and most likely you will be surprised.
    2. Do they still use such things now or are there more modern ones? Or were there so many of these riveted that they will continue to be dug up all over Europe for another hundred years?
    3. And spies don’t work according to soap, do they have to run into the forest and hammer out something in Morse code?
  58. +1
    26 February 2020 03: 38
    They dig around and miss...
    1. 0
      26 February 2020 06: 59
      Rather, everything is much simpler....
      Option 1. A radio amateur got involved in order to build his own station based on this device.
      Option 2. Hiding surpluses for the inventory period.
      1. 0
        26 February 2020 14: 37
        Here's the second one - it's the best!!!
  59. 0
    26 February 2020 07: 25
    Stirlitz hid...
    1. 0
      26 February 2020 12: 01
      Quote: ochakow703
      Stirlitz hid...

      worse, the Polabian Slavs introduced their agent
  60. 0
    26 February 2020 08: 34
    Quote: NordUral
    Life's affairs. And you need to hide it more carefully.

    They probably hid it (if they hid it) carefully, it just probably leaked somewhere... sad
  61. 0
    26 February 2020 08: 47
    We are waiting for hysteria in the Western media. I believe they won’t pass by. laughing
    Most likely it remains from Soviet times. We probably have a lot of these too, from our “partners”.
  62. 0
    26 February 2020 11: 18
    If anyone doesn’t know, the property of the Soviet Army is still being sold at the largest German online auction. Among the lots on display you can find uniforms, sapper blades, duffel bags, tank helmets and gas masks. Imagine how large the warehouses were, if after so many years the supply of engineer blades and tank helmets has not dried up. Surely there are radio stations of different systems in these warehouses. So you don’t need to have any special talents to buy a radio station on sale and bury it in the forest. The main talent here is to discover this radio station and create a stir in the media. If the radio station had been discovered by a mushroom picker, no one would have believed him. And here are the archaeologists. What archaeologists are doing in the forest is still a mystery.
    1. 0
      26 February 2020 14: 39
      Quote: rotfuks
      What archaeologists are doing in the forest is still a mystery.
      - that's it! No, it is definitely among us that they are looking for someone who “buried” it or “forgot” it... There is no need to be fooled - this is bullshit!
  63. 0
    26 February 2020 12: 00
    in the forest near Cologne, traces of a Roman-era mansion, they found a Soviet radio station
    well, we destroyed Rome too crying
  64. -1
    26 February 2020 12: 24
    Quote: ccsr
    Quote: Victor March 47
    The point is the density of receiving devices, which can be installed as cellular stations and with computer network control,

    In the HF band? And who will give you such an opportunity - telecom operators will send you away and that’s all over.
    Quote: Victor March 47
    Once it is turned on even FOR RECEPTION (not even for transmission!) it is already detected by the operation of a circuit called a local oscillator, which is part of the receiver.

    Radio counterintelligence is not strong enough to detect something like this in a metropolis or over a large area.
    Quote: Victor March 47
    There is no need to hide the signal; if it is coming, then there is no need to look for it. He reveals himself.

    Why then was XNUMX-hour radio silence carried out at least once a month? Or do you not know what it is?
    Quote: Victor March 47
    Talk nonsense about the micro-power Okolysh. How can you shoot tens of thousands of kilometers to the Center using microwatts?

    In this case, you are delusional - "Okolysh" has a range of up to 1,5 thousand km, and operational reconnaissance is not interested in ranges of up to 10 thousand km. The R-394KM radio station is from this link, and therefore up to 10 thousand do not work on it. Do you even know how special radio communications differ at the operational and strategic levels? It looks like you are still a mess in your head, like most radio amateurs.
    Study at your leisure what was developed sixty years ago in strategic special radio communications:


    Quote: Victor March 47
    Losers.

    In fact, you are just an amateur in matters of special radio communications, and your knowledge has remained at the amateur radio level, at least you studied what “Lun” is for a start, maybe you will find out what powers were used. Some specialists on the Lunya even worked at distances of up to 8 thousand km, but under certain conditions, you are simply not in the know.

    Of course, a loser. And a stubborn idiot. It makes no difference which box the signal is sent from. Not a box, but a signal is visible. And to get where you need to go (and where do you need the task to be completed - a kilometer away, or 10 thousand kilometers away?), in one case a quarter of a Watt is enough, in another - hundreds of Watts. Automatic scanning receiver, covers hundreds of megahertz. And when a signal appears in the swath, it records and turns on the location at the desired frequency. Scanning is around the clock, since there is not a person there, but a machine and a computer. There is no need to show half-ton iron. They are not the ones who are taken with them on business trips. And I repeat, for someone who is especially stupid, you don’t need to hide the signal, it’s useless, but mask it.
    There were programs for amateurs on the Internet. (primitive, for children's creativity). Which mixed an image file in a PDF extension and text from a notepad. Externally - a picture. You turn on the program and the text appears. The only inconvenience is that the picture cannot be modified. The text is lost. So, there are more interesting toys for adults. And millions of such pictures are sent every day. It’s impossible for anyone to track everything for sure. The signal is not hidden. The world wide web is used. But the secrecy is almost absolute.
    Learn the materiel, you bastard.
    1. -1
      26 February 2020 12: 37

      With this children's program I scan the range from 5 to 25 megahertz. Lanes are working stations. Light - strong. Breaking - stopping work. Appearing - turning on. Manual restructuring with cursor and mouse. Professionals, of course, have cooler ones.
      There are hundreds of such SDR receivers for different bands on the Internet. You can see for yourself.
      1. -1
        26 February 2020 12: 52
        For fixation, transmission appearance, power and modulation methods are not important. The appearance of the signal itself is important. Since he is caught by an agent in a neighboring gateway for further transfer to his destination, it follows that the same thing is caught by a security guard from a neighboring gateway. And this idiot talks about the structure of foreign intelligence.
        1. -1
          26 February 2020 13: 05
          It is extremely rare, extremely rare, that it is enough to send a postcard with the inscription “Katya the cat has lambed,” which means something completely different. Or transmit digitally using a Morse key. The report on the exercises in the North Atlantic runs to hundreds of pages. And you can’t betray the key from the secret radio “North”. Here we need high-speed transmission systems using a simple computer or cell phone. But in an open way, of course, it would be suicide. Disguise. Encoding into harmless files.
          Scouts pour in precisely in connection. This is the Achilles heel of any intelligence service. A scout without communications is ballast. So, my advice is, don’t take this “Malachite” with you. You’ll fall asleep as soon as you cross the border.
          1. 0
            26 February 2020 19: 48
            Quote: Victor March 47
            The report on the exercises in the North Atlantic runs to hundreds of pages.

            Who wise guy told you that this is transmitted through special radio communications? To do this, they use completely different methods of delivering information media, including diplomatic mail. Do you even understand what control signals, short messages and encrypted text are, and how they differ and what limitations they have?
            Quote: Victor March 47
            And you can’t betray the key from the secret radio “North”.

            No one has been working on the key for a long time - just kill it on your nose. But even on the key it was possible to transmit only a limited number of groups - you are not in the subject here either, because you have no idea what the cryptographic strength of ciphers is and how this affects the number of groups in a radiogram.
            Quote: Victor March 47
            Scouts pour in precisely in connection. This is the Achilles heel of any intelligence service.

            After the Great Patriotic War, there was not a single failure during communication sessions, and not a single radio operator was captured while working at the radio station - all failures were associated with betrayal, you are not cutting here either. But you know how to whistle - that can’t be taken away from you.
            1. +2
              26 February 2020 22: 56
              There is a nuance here. There is not a single KNOWN failure. It is important.
            2. +2
              27 February 2020 04: 10
              Quote: ccsr
              there was not a single failure during communication sessions, and not a single radio operator was captured while working at the radio station - all failures were associated with betrayal,

              Was the case what In Haifa But after the session they took direction request We were told about this as an example
              Quote: ccsr
              But you know how to whistle - that can’t be taken away from you.

              Also fool 1st class - hammers the brains at a speed of 20 groups per minute
              1. +2
                27 February 2020 12: 09
                Quote: Ruslan67
                It happened in Haifa, but after the session they took direction finding

                Was it ours or from the local contingent? I don’t remember anything about this incident of failure, perhaps it was a very long time ago, and it probably didn’t happen without betrayal - there was still the same public there.
                Quote: Ruslan67
                Also 1st class - hammers the brains at a speed of 20 groups per minute

                These radio amateurs are annoying with their home-grown theories, because they have no idea what special radio communications are, and they measure everything according to their consumer goods yardstick.
                1. +1
                  27 February 2020 16: 13
                  Quote: ccsr
                  Was it ours or from the local contingent?

                  Not specified request
                  Quote: ccsr
                  I don’t remember something about this incident of failure,

                  First Lebanese Logically local
    2. +1
      26 February 2020 19: 21
      Quote: Victor March 47
      Of course, a loser. And a stubborn idiot. It makes no difference which box the signal is sent from. Not a box, but a signal is visible.

      You won't see anything from "Okolysh" if you don't know the type of signal, especially if it appears on some frequency registered with a legal HF radio station. So in this case you are a fool, and not because you write nonsense, but because detecting radiation does not yet determine its direction, and this is precisely a big problem with low transmitter powers. And even if they find him, it’s not a fact that there will be enough time to organize the pursuit of the radio operator. Learn the materiel, "radio amateur" of cheap films about spies.
      Quote: Victor March 47
      The world wide web is used.

      Yes, there is now a network being used that we do not control and that is well controlled by the NSA. So encrypted messages are transmitted through it - no one denies this, as well as the fact that at the right moment it will be cut off for us, and everyone leaves traces on the network, no matter how they try to hide their agent. But this is not the worst thing, but the fact that servers in the USA store the entire volume of sent messages, and, if necessary, can begin to decrypt any messages, no matter in what form they are transmitted.
      Quote: Victor March 47
      But the secrecy is almost absolute.
      Learn the materiel, you bastard.

      Don’t squeal, verbiage - special radio communications have not yet been decommissioned, and will always exist, because this is the only means of communication that does not depend on the enemy. By the way, the latest scandal with the Crypto company just showed idiots like you that the American intelligence services do not slurp cabbage soup, but laymen like you don’t believe it.
  65. +1
    26 February 2020 12: 52
    Oh, I finally found my radio station! I'll have to go and pick it up.
    Otherwise I still can’t pay our supply manager)))
    Master of Sports Major Chingachgook.
  66. -1
    26 February 2020 13: 19
    Quote: rotfuks
    If anyone doesn’t know, the property of the Soviet Army is still being sold at the largest German online auction. Among the lots on display you can find uniforms, sapper blades, duffel bags, tank helmets and gas masks. Imagine how large the warehouses were, if after so many years the supply of engineer blades and tank helmets has not dried up. Surely there are radio stations of different systems in these warehouses. So you don’t need to have any special talents to buy a radio station on sale and bury it in the forest. The main talent here is to discover this radio station and create a stir in the media. If the radio station had been discovered by a mushroom picker, no one would have believed him. And here are the archaeologists. What archaeologists are doing in the forest is still a mystery.

    I am convinced that in 2024, when elections begin in Russia, there will be hundreds of such radio stations. And in different countries. If by that time Musk launches his ship to Mars, they will find it there too.
  67. 0
    26 February 2020 16: 01
    Quote: ccsr
    Why then was XNUMX-hour radio silence carried out at least once a month? Or do you not know what it is?

    Radio silence mode. Every hour at the end of the hour, a few minutes. To receive a possibly sent SOS signal. Or Mayday. English version . And frequencies that no one in the world has the right to occupy, but are used only for this purpose.
    A radio silence regime agreed upon with the enemy and used to transmit a secret message. Not just an idiot, but a talented and idiot can come up with this idea.
    1. 0
      26 February 2020 18: 31
      Quote: Victor March 47
      Radio silence mode. Every hour at the end of the hour, a few minutes. To receive a possibly sent SOS signal. Or Mayday. English version .

      In fact, it was introduced specifically to determine the work of foreign intelligence radio stations on our territory - you are too far from all this.
      Quote: Victor March 47
      A radio silence regime agreed upon with the enemy and used to transmit a secret message. Not just an idiot, but a talented and idiot can come up with this idea.

      You are completely inadequate - a radio silence regime is introduced only for OUR radio equipment in peacetime, and this is done without any schedule, but suddenly, which makes it possible to quickly locate an illegal transmitter. In wartime, radio silence is also introduced, but for a different purpose - to hide the deployment or maneuvering of troops. Keep burning, "radio amateur", you are funny...
  68. 0
    26 February 2020 16: 14
    Quote: Elena Zakharova
    relative phase shift keying

    That's MODULATION! Manipulation is a completely different story...
  69. AB
    +1
    26 February 2020 16: 23
    Searching the woods near Cologne for traces of a Roman-era mansion

    Damn storytellers. Again some informer in the BND snitched. During World War II, Cologne was subjected to brutal bombing by the Allied Air Forces, which carried out about 300 air raids. And what can you find there after that?
  70. 0
    26 February 2020 18: 00
    ... 30 years and 3 years
  71. -2
    26 February 2020 18: 44
    Quote: ccsr
    Quote: Victor March 47
    Radio silence mode. Every hour at the end of the hour, a few minutes. To receive a possibly sent SOS signal. Or Mayday. English version .

    In fact, it was introduced specifically to determine the work of foreign intelligence radio stations on our territory - you are too far from all this.
    Quote: Victor March 47
    A radio silence regime agreed upon with the enemy and used to transmit a secret message. Not just an idiot, but a talented and idiot can come up with this idea.

    You are completely inadequate - a radio silence regime is introduced only for OUR radio equipment in peacetime, and this is done without any schedule, but suddenly, which makes it possible to quickly locate an illegal transmitter. In wartime, radio silence is also introduced, but for a different purpose - to hide the deployment or maneuvering of troops. Keep burning, "radio amateur", you are funny...

    Interesting guess. There are hundreds of thousands of radio stations operating simultaneously in the world, but in order to find the direction of the one near you, you need to jam the broadcast in Saratov. It is not possible to adjust by frequency. And if they, such idiots, stood on the Saratov frequency, which has 1300 kilowatts of power, then you can break through it with adequate power. Fox hunters, there is such a competition to find camouflaged radio stations, for some reason they know how to catch foxes according to their own schedule and schedule, choosing the most economical routes. Because all 10 foxes need to be caught in the minimum time. And here it’s not the legs that help, but the head. And skill. I hope there is still something in your head, and you understand that talking about the past war and methods of fighting spies is not appropriate now. The amount of secret materials was posted not by the GRU, not by the KGB, not by USIA, but by WIKILIX. And without any direction finders or searching for radio stations.
    1. 0
      26 February 2020 20: 36
      Quote: Victor March 47
      Interesting guess. There are hundreds of thousands of radio stations operating simultaneously in the world, but in order to find the direction of the one near you, you need to jam the broadcast in Saratov.

      This is not an assumption, but a common event in all military districts. Broadcast stations did not fall under this, this is your speculation.
      Quote: Victor March 47
      I hope there is still something in your head, and you understand that talking about the past war and methods of fighting spies is not appropriate now.

      It will probably never get into your head that special radio communications are still considered a backup channel for the GRU and the FSB, if only due to the fact that any embassy is instantly blocked and not only the power supply is cut off, but also all external networks. And what way out, smart guy, do you propose, if the embassy radio station cannot work without external energy, and its operating time on a gasoline generator and batteries is no more than a day. So what remains is what is called correspondent radio stations, in order to at least inform Moscow what is happening and receive further instructions.
      Quote: Victor March 47
      And here it’s not the legs that help, but the head.

      You learned to run, but you couldn't get your head around...
      1. +3
        27 February 2020 04: 18
        Quote: ccsr
        , if only due to the fact that any embassy is instantly blocked and not only the power supply is cut off, but also all external networks.

        Quote: ccsr
        You learned to run, but you couldn't get your head around...

        And he runs with it instead of a ball wassat
  72. 0
    26 February 2020 18: 49
    What a find! These are the secrets!
    Considering that a whole group of Soviet troops was stationed in Germany.
    Can you imagine, weapons and uniforms of German soldiers were found on Russian territory, wow, right?
  73. -1
    26 February 2020 19: 55
    Failure for the pawnbroker
    1. -3
      26 February 2020 21: 51
      Quote: av58
      Failure for the pawnbroker


      Absolutely right. And the pawnbroker was a Soviet warrant officer from the GSVG, who was trying to sell the radio. The operation failed; the business ensign chickened out and did not take the goods out of harm’s way.

      That's the whole secret.
  74. -2
    26 February 2020 22: 32
    Quote: ccsr
    You learned to run, but you couldn't get your head around...

    You have no w..., no legs, no head. Scout, your mother..... Capital blockhead. Calculate a radio silence schedule and follow it. Detect a sudden shutdown and repeat the action.... Now, he’s just an excellent idiot.
    1. +3
      27 February 2020 04: 20
      Quote: Victor March 47
      Calculate a radio silence schedule and follow it. Detect a sudden shutdown and repeat the action.... Now, he’s just an excellent idiot.

      Your division request This is a flight of thought good Rapidly falling jack to the rescue Yes
      1. +2
        28 February 2020 19: 20
        Quote: Ruslan67
        Your own division This is a flight of thought A rapidly falling jack to the rescue

        I, too, was amazed at the statements of this clown, and he still pretends to be a specialist, making the chickens laugh. By the way, I have more than once encountered these laymen who work at kilowatts and think that this is the height of perfection in radio communications. I would try this kettle on a 10 or 40-watt transmitter to work at any time of the day, and on extreme routes, then everyone would see what it is capable of in real life. Especially if this happened in a country with a strict counterintelligence regime, like Germany for example. In general, this is a joke - he doesn’t even know what radio silence is, but he’s trying to prove something here.
    2. +2
      28 February 2020 19: 13
      Quote: Victor March 47
      Calculate a radio silence schedule and follow it.

      You are definitely inadequate - how will you figure him out if the KGB was involved in this, and its orders were carried out by all radio stations, except for those who were not concerned - broadcasters, for example.
      Quote: Victor March 47
      . Detect sudden shutdown and repeat the action.

      You're definitely illiterate if you don't know what scheduled one-way sessions are. And then, how can a radio operator calculate that a radio silence regime has been introduced if he does not know either the date or time of its introduction, and foreign HF radio stations continue to operate.
      Quote: Victor March 47
      Now, he’s just an excellent idiot.

      Relax, amateur, anyone here in the know has already realized that you are just a verbiage who does not have a basic understanding of special radio communications.
  75. 0
    27 February 2020 09: 33
    This is such a gorgeous set))
  76. -1
    27 February 2020 15: 14
    It looks like Merkel burned herself out, Putin’s main agent was exposed, but everyone thought he was a redhead from Pindostan
  77. 0
    27 February 2020 15: 16
    Well...now I have to make a new one! Just expenses from them...)
  78. -1
    27 February 2020 20: 39
    Quote: Doliva63
    Quote: Victor March 47
    Quote: Doliva63
    Quote: Victor March 47
    Nonsense. Military products do not have any markings, with a trademark, serial number, year of manufacture.
    There is encrypted marking, which is assigned by a special technique. So nearby products released have completely different numbers. And there it is not possible to understand the encryption methods.
    Stolen in a military unit by a warrant for sale, and sprinkled with prying eyes.

    Take, for example, an automatic machine. Military product. Exclusively. And there is a serial number, year of manufacture and brand of the plant. How so?

    Don’t you understand that there are products for millionth use and for special operations? It’s stupid to hide a product, to keep it secret, even when it is known on Mars. And it interferes with the search for the criminal who kidnapped and used him for his own purposes. A reconnaissance group, equipped with Soviet passports, cell phones, laptops, with numbers, the year of manufacture .... Somehow it slightly contradicts ... Do not you find?
    It’s clear that if you can’t supply the group with iron of someone else’s manufacture, then they give their own, but with the details removed. For, any figure can help reveal the purpose of the operation.

    Do not find it strange to strip off the marking from the radio station when the machine guns in the group are Soviet, the uniform is Soviet, even the inscriptions on the dry solder are all in Russian! laughing And then their "counters" are quite aware of what the bulk of all our "products" looks like, ripping off the labels will not save. And by the number of the machine or radio station - how to determine the purpose of the operation? No way. No, we had warehouses with NATO weapons, we even fired from them, there was equipment, but it was not supposed to be massively used, to put it mildly. We're talking about army special forces. We do not consider individual "military organizational special measures" due to their rarity.

    Don't understand the difference? It's your problem. They don’t go deep into the rear, into the nest of the beast, with Kalashnikovs and Soviet dry rations. The radio station for special operations is made in such a way that it is impossible to understand the country of manufacture and nationality. Date of manufacture, seal and signature of the military representative. The question is why then ask the caught person, when he crossed the border, who he is, and where his ammunition came from.
    And a Kalashnikov assault rifle at the front. Packed rations. Isn’t it already clear who your soldier is fighting with?
    Are you really that stupid that you don't understand the difference?
    1. 0
      28 February 2020 11: 40
      Quote: Victor March 47
      The radio station for special operations is made in such a way that it is impossible to understand the country of manufacture and nationality.

      Then, based on your logic, it’s easier to take foreign radio stations and use them during the operation - retraining will not take much time for a specialist.
      As for identifying the manufacturer, a quick inspection may not be able to determine it, but based on the composition of the solder, installation methods and other signs, specialists will instantly reveal where the product was made - you are simply out of the loop, radio amateur...
      1. -1
        28 February 2020 13: 05
        Of course they do. They did, more precisely. During the years when this radio station was stolen from a warehouse and buried until better times. The conversation wasn't about that, it was about sliding towards God knows what. The conversation began with the fact that they do not put any trademarks on the nameplates, nor the serial number, nor the date of manufacture. At least, as per GOST it was supposed to be done for civilians. These details were well encrypted using the appropriate methodology. My product, I was the lead designer, was labeled exactly like that. But the incredibly erudite in foreign intelligence intervened and spoiled them with empty posts. Now, they don’t take anything with them at all. They buy a cell phone and a computer THERE. And they use computer and cellular networks to instantly transmit well-disguised information. So that it is impossible to discredit the agent at the place of manufacture or sale.
        Let's end this idle chatter.
        1. +1
          28 February 2020 13: 30
          Quote: Victor March 47
          During the years when this radio station was stolen from a warehouse and buried until better times.

          In fact, the radio itself, as well as the container, are strictly accountable items, so the theft is a figment of your imagination.
          Quote: Victor March 47
          The conversation began with the fact that they do not put any trademarks on the nameplates, nor the serial number, nor the date of manufacture.

          In fact, there are products where nothing is installed, even radio components and other parts are not marked, and there are no military representatives there - you are simply not in the subject, I realized this a long time ago. If you don’t understand what is shown in one of the photographs called “Gradient” or “Argument,” then that’s your problem.
          Quote: Victor March 47
          My product, I was the lead designer, was labeled exactly like that.

          You were not the only one who worked in the country, and therefore you do not know everything that happened in it.
          Quote: Victor March 47
          Now, they don’t take anything with them at all.

          And before, they didn’t take anything special, because there were other ways to deliver the necessary products abroad. What did you want to surprise me with?
  79. -1
    28 February 2020 20: 51
    Quote: ccsr
    Quote: Ruslan67
    Your own division This is a flight of thought A rapidly falling jack to the rescue

    I, too, was amazed at the statements of this clown, and he still pretends to be a specialist, making the chickens laugh. By the way, I have more than once encountered these laymen who work at kilowatts and think that this is the height of perfection in radio communications. I would try this kettle on a 10 or 40-watt transmitter to work at any time of the day, and on extreme routes, then everyone would see what it is capable of in real life. Especially if this happened in a country with a strict counterintelligence regime, like Germany for example. In general, this is a joke - he doesn’t even know what radio silence is, but he’s trying to prove something here.

    You should try at 144 with 5 Watts to work with the reflection from the Moon. And the control regime in the USSR was the most total. Germany is a brat. Specialist. And the time of day does not depend on skill. There is either a passage here or there is not. And try to wait and transmit during the period of calm Sun, when there is no passage for weeks. About direction finding power of 10 watts. The Germans took bearings and smaller ones in minutes. It's easier for them. They are closer to the transmitter. The idiot is not trained. The signal strength decreases as the square of the distance. Idiot. Shut down. Murlen Murlo.
    1. 0
      29 February 2020 11: 08
      Quote: Victor March 47
      You should try at 144 with 5 Watts to work with the reflection from the Moon.

      Actually, we were talking about the HF band - did you receive reflected signals from the Moon in it too? Well, well, keep burning...
      Quote: Victor March 47
      And the control regime in the USSR was the most total. Germany is a brat.

      Relax clown, you just don’t know that they’ve been knocking there since the time of Hitler, and you won’t even be able to drive into the forest without someone snitching on you to the forester or the police.
      Quote: Victor March 47
      About direction finding power of 10 watts. The Germans took bearings and smaller ones in minutes. It's easier for them.

      Quiet the kettle - the whole session could have lasted a few seconds.
      Quote: Victor March 47
      . They are closer to the transmitter.

      The transmitter could be located in another country altogether, and the agent, for example, was German.
      Quote: Victor March 47
      The signal strength decreases as the square of the distance. Idiot. Shut down. Murlen Murlo.

      Uncle got lost, but keep burning and amuse the audience.

"Right Sector" (banned in Russia), "Ukrainian Insurgent Army" (UPA) (banned in Russia), ISIS (banned in Russia), "Jabhat Fatah al-Sham" formerly "Jabhat al-Nusra" (banned in Russia) , Taliban (banned in Russia), Al-Qaeda (banned in Russia), Anti-Corruption Foundation (banned in Russia), Navalny Headquarters (banned in Russia), Facebook (banned in Russia), Instagram (banned in Russia), Meta (banned in Russia), Misanthropic Division (banned in Russia), Azov (banned in Russia), Muslim Brotherhood (banned in Russia), Aum Shinrikyo (banned in Russia), AUE (banned in Russia), UNA-UNSO (banned in Russia), Mejlis of the Crimean Tatar People (banned in Russia), Legion “Freedom of Russia” (armed formation, recognized as terrorist in the Russian Federation and banned)

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