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Barrel of lives

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Barrel of livesThe demographic crisis, the need to overcome it through raising the birth rate is one of the most discussed topics in modern Russian society. Experts say that a radical increase in the birth rate is necessary for victory over the demographic crisis. Not just the barely emerging statistical trend, namely, the radical shift towards the excess of the number of births over the number of deaths, in fact, the victory of life over the death hanging over the country! No more, no less. We need new people, new brains, new hands and new bayonets. And they need many times more than now. Without this, Russia simply cannot objectively survive.

RIA NEWS: “Residents of the Nevyansky District of the Sverdlovsk Region on Sunday found four plastic barrels with human embryos treated with formaldehyde in a forest ravine, Valery Gorelykh, head of the press service of the regional Interior Ministry of Russia, told RIA Novosti on Monday.

The barrels were found about five kilometers from the Ekaterinburg-Nizhny Tagil highway. Embryos were tagged.
“According to one of the versions, the numbers of the chambers and the names of the mothers can be indicated on the tags,” Gorelykh noted.

An investigative team composed of officers from the Nevyansk ATS, a forensic expert and representatives of the territorial investigation department of the SUSC of Russia in the Sverdlovsk Region, left for the scene.

"This morning, at the direction of the chief of the Interior Ministry Mikhail Borodin, a repeated thorough inspection of the ravine will be held - the police arrived there almost after dark. Besides, experienced medical workers will be involved ... the age of the embryos will be brought in," the police official said glavka.

He added that when falling into a ravine from the barrels lids jumped off, and part of the contents of the containers was on the ground.

“Mikhail Borodin took the investigation of this incident under his personal control. On his instructions, the police began to check all nearby medical facilities, from where they could take this terrible cargo,” Gorelykh said.

Practiced various versions of what happened.

“Following the results of the check, the actions of those who threw out the embryos into the forest will be given a legal assessment. A decision will also be made to initiate a criminal case,” Gorelykh said.

According to the administration of the governor of the Sverdlovsk region, the head of the region, Yevgeny Kuyvashev, commissioned an official check on this fact in a short time.

“Yevgeny Kuyvashev noted that organizational conclusions should be made on the basis of the audit,” the message reads. ”


Barrel! A whole barrel of lives! Biological waste ... Not born engineers, poets, generals, teachers, doctors, so needed by the country, just people !!! Chikatilo, as they say, nervously smokes on the sidelines. Just hair on end! I would like to look into the eyes of the person who put them there, in this barrel, folded. However, God will judge him ...

Let us leave the emotions and take a look at the truth, casting aside the moral and religious side of the issue, without which, however, the problem under discussion will never be solved. The mass character of abortions is evidence of the deepest moral degradation of society, its cruel spiritual crisis. And the material side (no money, there are already children who need to be fed) has nothing to do with it.

So, it is time to declare that if we need a Radical shift in demographics towards an increase in the birth rate, then it is time to prohibit abortion by law, equating them to murder, that is, calling things by their proper names. Abortion for medical reasons is a difficult thing, in this issue, let the doctors understand the conscience and faith. However, abortion “at will”, in the case when a healthy woman, by prior agreement with an accomplice doctor, consciously goes for the murder of a healthy child, motivating her desire with “material”, “personal” and other reasons-excuses, should be interpreted solely as murder, and possibly as a betrayal of the motherland with all the consequences. So RADICAL, because it is about the survival of the nation.
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  1. Vanek
    Vanek 24 July 2012 10: 11
    +11
    Today morning, smoked on the balcony, heard the news.

    He was, frankly, shocked.

    Just no words.
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 24 July 2012 10: 15
      +9
      Vanya, yesterday it was shown on the news with a comment that the law enforcement agencies do not yet know what case to initiate, criminal or administrative! Maybe today, they decided something, but have not yet heard. And so the situation can be fucked up.
      1. Armata
        Armata 24 July 2012 10: 22
        +11
        Damn everything on the ears, as always in fact. And when youngsters make illegal abortions in left-wing clinics, how should this be qualified? And in general, it is necessary to restore order until a fact has occurred, and not when the barrels were found, for sure it is not from a legal hospital. angry
        1. Vanek
          Vanek 24 July 2012 10: 26
          +12
          Abortion at any time - there is KILLING!
          1. leon-iv
            leon-iv 24 July 2012 10: 44
            +1
            do you have children
            1. Vanek
              Vanek 24 July 2012 10: 48
              +10
              Quote: leon-iv
              do you have children


              I have. The second one does not work out yet. It will turn out the second - we will do the third. MINIMUM TWO.

              And for what purpose are you interested ???
              1. VAF
                VAF 24 July 2012 11: 11
                +9
                Quote: Vanek
                It will turn out the second - we will do the third. MINIMUM TWO.


                Vanya, the hammer !!! ++++ !!!! Keep it up! And don’t listen to anyone, the children are happy, just take a bigger run, and then I have 2 boys, the run is only 3 years old, both have already fluttered to independence and now I’m only waiting for my grandchildren ..... I bring up a dog !!!

                Quote: Vanek
                And for what purpose are you interested ???


                Wan, comrade took an interest only for a cognitive purpose ... not for operational reasons ??? bully
                1. Vanek
                  Vanek 24 July 2012 11: 16
                  +4
                  Sergey, good afternoon.

                  Quote: vaf
                  hammer !!! ++++ !!!! keep it up


                  Thank you.

                  Quote: vaf
                  Keep it up! And don’t listen to anyone, children are happiness,


                  We are trying. And do not listen to anyone. I will never forget how I first saw mine. He picked it up.
                  1. vorobey
                    vorobey 24 July 2012 11: 56
                    +4
                    Serega is right, on the one hand, we have an average difference of 4 years, and they babysit each other. It’s a joke to look at a three-year-old, when the elder two are in the ranks before the sambo competition, and this three-year-old climbs to them, becomes close by, and also tries to fight the judge who wants to take him away. the fans in the hall rolled with laughter.
                    1. Armata
                      Armata 24 July 2012 12: 04
                      +5
                      Quote: vorobey
                      Serega is right, on the one hand, we have an average difference of 4 of the year, and they nurse each other.

                      And I have two with a difference of 7 years. So the eldest always commanded a small one (so that he would not grow a rag), and now the senior in the Army and the small one bored alone defeated everyone when Vanka returned. smile
              2. leon-iv
                leon-iv 24 July 2012 11: 26
                +5
                It's just that it makes no sense to talk about such a topic with a person who has no children.
                At the very Two.
              3. vorobey
                vorobey 24 July 2012 11: 52
                +6
                And my fourth will be born soon. I hope in secret that he is also a kid. Vanek approving. Children are cool, on the one hand .. it’s full, and on the other cool.
                1. sergey32
                  sergey32 24 July 2012 20: 58
                  +2
                  And I already have four - three girls and a younger boy, he’s 7let. so cool, you come home and everyone climbs to you. Yesterday, my wife and I had an anniversary, 20 years of marriage. He came home from work late, and there the children already drew posters and hung balls. Guys, who has more?
          2. MHP
            MHP 24 July 2012 10: 55
            +4
            I agree, to increase the responsibility of doctors to somehow restrain themselves, and somehow in the pursuit of money, we completely lost the gray matter!
            1. Denzel13
              Denzel13 24 July 2012 15: 21
              +1
              Unfortunately, it is extremely difficult to bring doctors to criminal responsibility, as mutual responsibility. Even the text of the article shows that they will attract qualified medical specialists and what happens? They will never write that there was a crime event.
          3. carbofo
            carbofo 24 July 2012 12: 10
            -1
            Vanek,
            It’s you tell the child in the orphanage, what a happiness for him to live.
            1. Vanek
              Vanek 24 July 2012 12: 19
              +2
              Quote: carbofo
              It’s you tell the child in the orphanage, what a happiness for him to live.


              For starters, "you". This is ONCE. On TWO, what is this all about ??
              1. carbofo
                carbofo 24 July 2012 12: 27
                0
                Quote: Vanek
                For starters, "you". This is ONCE. On TWO, what is this all about ??

                Reverence- I, you, you, little things, if you are cyclized by your business.
                Besides the fact that a normal child grows up in a normal family, the ban on abortion will sharply increase the number of children in orphanages, which will raise a big question!
                1. Vanek
                  Vanek 24 July 2012 12: 31
                  +5
                  Quote: carbofo
                  the ban on abortion will dramatically increase the number of children in orphanages, which will raise a big question!


                  I conclude that in your opinion it would be better like this in a barrel, in a ditch, than in a children's home alive.

                  We are out of the way.
                  1. carbofo
                    carbofo 24 July 2012 12: 43
                    -2
                    Vanek,
                    Perhaps you should study the question, what is an embryo?
                    I have no desire to keep up with someone, I have my own way and views, but to draw radical conclusions in this case seems to me premature
        2. antiaircrafter
          antiaircrafter 24 July 2012 10: 45
          +1
          Quote: Steam Train
          this is probably not from a legal hospital

          The news said that there are standard tags with chamber numbers and surnames. It is unlikely that someone would bother with tags in illegal activities.
          1. Gavrilon
            Gavrilon 24 July 2012 10: 53
            +7
            Cause and investigation. The country is drinking, there is no money, the birth rate is minimal.

            Exit like Kadaffi:
            - no alcohol law
            - Full state support for single mothers
            - Workplaces
            - Execution for corruption.

            And the first is a dry law even in our country 87 (http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-alcoholic_campaign_in_SSSR) in the USSR my generation is the largest in 5-8 classes in parallel and now ??
            1. lelikas
              lelikas 24 July 2012 20: 22
              +1
              Thank you party, dear
              and Gorbachev personally-
              Sober husband returned home
              and in *** al excellent.

              (admins, do not delete plz. it was too painful in a subject)
              but with the remaining three points I absolutely agree with you.
    2. Prophet Alyosha
      Prophet Alyosha 24 July 2012 12: 01
      -2
      BPMINISTRATORY and moderators of pursuing a policy (as the authorities of the Russian Federation) to stifle any kind of dissent and criticism of their URA_PATRIOTIZMA (pro-US) AT ME was organized several attacks-REMOVAL few thousand points, threats and mat in a personal, with the same complaints turn to me MANY TRUE PATRIOTS OF RUSSIA FROM THE SITE TO, ANSWER_NO YOU WILL BE SPIDED AND DO NOT BREAK !!! WE LOVE THE MOTHERLAND, NOT YOUR SCORES AND DO NOT BE CARRIED OUT DIFFERENT FROM YOU ON ENTRIES OF ENEMIES !!! AND THESE ACTIONS SAY ABOUT YOUR GRAVE AND POWERLESS ANSWER THE TRUTH !!! WEAKNESS !!!
      1. Ataturk
        Ataturk 24 July 2012 12: 15
        -2
        Quote: Prophet Alyosha
        ADMINISTRATORS AND MODERATORS OF THE SITE PERFORM THE POLICY (AS THE AUTHORITY OF THE RUSSIAN FEDERATION) TO STRUGGLE ANY DISSENTING AND CRITICISM OF THEIR URA_PATRIOTISM (PRO-AMERICAN)


        You broken little finger do not cost the site administration. Even dirt from their shoes. Do you know why?

        You write nonsense. Look who you yourself are, what you wrote before, what are you lying? When you wrote provocation, when you wrote, you have to kill the Azerbaijanis and give the lands to the Armenians, when you almost humiliated others. So do not drive !!!

        DO NOT ASK WHAT YOU DO NOT GIVE YOURSELF!

        You are not Russian, but an enemy of Russians. A real Russian man will respect his neighbors, remember the USSR, and you, with your aerodynamic head, deceitfully roll your non-essential policy on the site administration.

        You are a fascist and a real one. Nazi. You are persecuting Russia here ... I respect Russia and respect Russian guys, I do not respect politics at certain points in relation to my people. And you are a fascist. Do you know why you are a fascist and a Nazi? Because you were not outside your yard, if you were in different countries, you would see people and understand that there is no bad nation, there are bad people.

        Quote: Prophet Alyosha
        MULTIPLE ATTACK ORGANIZED TO REMOVE SEVERAL THOUSAND SCORES ORGANIZED

        Everyone has the right to minus or plus. So you're off topic. Although I did not touch you !!! I am responsible for my words !!!

        Quote: Prophet Alyosha
        THREATS AND MAT IN PERSONALITY,

        IF SOMETHING offended you mates in PM, he became the same as you, a fascist and a Nazi. You show a screen of mail to administrators, and those will be punished, just don’t shout about what threaten you. WHERE IS THE EVIDENCE? Where are the facts?


        Quote: Prophet Alyosha
        MANY TRUE RUSSIAN PATRIOTS APPEALED TO ME

        Come on? Who are you to appeal to you? A true patriot will respect everyone, so that he will be respected.
      2. vorobey
        vorobey 24 July 2012 12: 15
        +3
        Lech you certainly well done. but it’s better to speak on business.
        1. Russian-
          Russian- 24 July 2012 17: 16
          +4
          Horror - today I saw the news.
          Necessary - Prohibit abortion - generally as such. And to make them - only by honey. indications or in special cases - by decision of the medical / social commission.
  2. MHP
    MHP 24 July 2012 10: 15
    +2
    To create a pancake normal human conditions for the family will be fertility.
    And do not fool around in this article, It's like twice two!
    1. Vanek
      Vanek 24 July 2012 10: 22
      +7
      Quote: MHP
      To create a pancake normal human conditions for the family will be fertility.
      And do not fool around in this article, It's like twice two!



      That is, in your opinion, what happened is this, the little things in life ????????????

      FOUR BARRELS. FOUR.
      1. MHP
        MHP 24 July 2012 10: 44
        +4
        Dear Vladimir!
        As for the four barrels, the so-called word should not be turned around; it’s most likely that Herods and doctors should call them mothers and LIFE them (rotted all their lives in the zone) and not be disgraceful for others.

        As for my comment, here I was talking about something completely different.
        Creating a family and having children is not my e-problem, the thing is different there should be a whole phased program, as in the days of the USSR, you will not be limited to maternal capital alone.
        As far as money is concerned, there is money — give a loan to that, then give it a loan,
        let's think about ourselves first and then we will throw money to the right and left.
        Best regards
        1. Vanek
          Vanek 24 July 2012 10: 50
          +3
          Quote: MHP
          To create a pancake normal human conditions for the family will be fertility.


          your words?

          THE WAR WAS - CHILDBIRTH.

          What conditions do you need?
          1. MHP
            MHP 24 July 2012 11: 03
            +3
            THE WAR WAS - CHILDBIRTH.

            What conditions do you need?


            Dear Vladimir! no one argues with you, in a war, both man and people mobilize and adapt to the conditions of the war!
            Well, now, with whom are we fighting?
            1. Vanek
              Vanek 24 July 2012 11: 09
              +2
              Quote: MHP
              Dear Vladimir!


              Ivan I.

              Quote: MHP
              Well, now, with whom are we fighting?


              Fortunately, with no one. So, accordingly, the conditions today are quite acceptable for birth. For birth! But not for infanticide.
              1. leon-iv
                leon-iv 24 July 2012 11: 28
                +2
                In general, in our country right now, thank God there is a tendency for childbearing.
                BUT many do not know what benefits and payments are supposed to do for it.
              2. MHP
                MHP 24 July 2012 12: 25
                +3
                I apologize Ivan (meaning erroneous) appeal, here a little distracted me.
                1. Vanek
                  Vanek 24 July 2012 12: 39
                  0
                  Quote: MHP
                  I apologize Ivan (meaning erroneous) appeal, here a little distracted me.


                  It happens. drinks
        2. MHP
          MHP 24 July 2012 11: 13
          +2
          Dear Vladimir!

          As for the four barrels, it is unfortunate that they have acceded to the Convention on the Prohibition of the Death Penalty.
          In my opinion, life imprisonment for mothers for Herods (the language does not turn out to be called mothers) and "doctors" will not be enough. To equate premeditated murder with a more severe punishment to the article of the Criminal Code, and to deprive doctors altogether of the title of doctor!

          As for maternal capital, it's zilch! We need a step-by-step comprehensive program as in the days of the USSR. Unless young people were treated badly.
          Then the birth rate will be!
          1. leon-iv
            leon-iv 24 July 2012 11: 29
            +4
            Who told you that maternity capital is zilch.
            For you 400 thousand rubles a penny? Not for me.
      2. Dmitry.V
        Dmitry.V 24 July 2012 12: 43
        0
        These are only those that were found, and then by accident, God forbid that this is not all.
    2. Trapperxnumx
      Trapperxnumx 24 July 2012 10: 31
      +5
      What do the conditions have to do with it? When my wife was in custody, she saw these people who come to have abortions - they all look decent, and there were NO homeless_beggar_allsome_classes among them. Many have abortions, because the child "will interfere" with them, and not from lack of money. All the more, wait from the state as a whole, good benefits are coming. There is no desire, not opportunities.
      Order needs to be restored in the heads.
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 24 July 2012 10: 42
        +5
        That's for sure, first a career, clubs, fun, and then children.
        1. leon-iv
          leon-iv 24 July 2012 10: 45
          +4
          and then such conservation lies in specialized research institutes with threats of termination of pregnancy.
    3. leon-iv
      leon-iv 24 July 2012 10: 44
      +3
      some better abortion do IMHO
      1. Armata
        Armata 24 July 2012 10: 49
        +6
        Quote: leon-iv

        some better abortion do IMHO

        Quote: Trapper7
        Many have abortions, because the child "will interfere" with them, and not from lack of money.

        And such generally need to be sterilized when handling. Then they, as well as prostitutes, will not be needed by any peasant.
        1. leon-iv
          leon-iv 24 July 2012 11: 27
          +1
          By the way, now public chambers are discussing similar things in the regions.
          And for me, the law is extremely necessary.
        2. dimitriy
          dimitriy 24 July 2012 12: 25
          +2
          Good afternoon,
          definitely sterilization. Only the last moron might think that after some time, these mothers will make exemplary mothers.
      2. vorobey
        vorobey 24 July 2012 12: 12
        +6
        have an opinion? I will tell. Basically, all medical programs are sponsored from abroad. for example, Family Planning Center, etc. etc.
        Under the gracious sign lies the real devil's kitchen. We are all human beings, everyone has experiences, doubts, and so on. where did cesarean fashion come from? during childbirth under general anesthesia and so on, and how many times can a woman then give birth?
        Instead of supporting such horror stories, they begin to tell, they are sent to geneticists and so on, they tried to pierce their stomachs to take tests.
        I had to intercede for my wife, indiscriminately man, a woman doctor. but now no extra examinations, all are courteous and polite.

        You need to start with medicine, and then get into the family.
        1. Armata
          Armata 24 July 2012 12: 19
          +6
          Quote: vorobey
          You need to start with medicine, and then get into the family

          Sasha now has a lot of "glamorous beauties" who are perdited by all and sundry, and she is looking for someone who is richer. Their children are generally superfluous, and it is these who become patients of such a clinic where everything is cleaned without unnecessary noise. And this will continue until they take on just such friends and start prosecuting them, and then the doctors must be cleaned so that they are afraid.
          1. carbofo
            carbofo 24 July 2012 12: 29
            -3
            Locomotive,
            Can you accept Islam ?. Do not need radicalism, the topic is so slippery, you can’t get it together with an ax.
            1. vorobey
              vorobey 24 July 2012 13: 01
              +3
              Quote: carbofo
              Locomotive,
              Can you accept Islam ?.

              Are you calling Zhenya to apostasy? Do not. People like you have already retreated from the commandments of your ancestors, following the Geyropey universal values. That's why they are universal, that are aimed at biomass and not at the individual who has the misfortune to inhabit in this society.
              1. carbofo
                carbofo 24 July 2012 13: 30
                -1
                Quote: vorobey
                Are you calling Zhenya to apostasy?


                I do not urge, just radical ideas about: what would we do with women, they do not cause me a positive response.
                Yes, our beauties have been stuck with life, but this is not a reason to row all under one and to impose hard chauvinistic ideas, akin to Muslim ones.
                1. mark021105
                  mark021105 24 July 2012 23: 04
                  +4
                  I am not a Muslim, but I have four from 6 to 23 years old. I want another fifth. My wife has not yet persuaded ... :-) And I do not have the opportunity to receive maternity capital, I am not a citizen of the Russian Federation, so far only a residence permit. Probably, it’s hard for many people to earn money now, but I don’t dare say that it’s hard to feed all my children. These are your children, how can it be "hard" ??? Where there is 4 there is the fifth - we will grow and educate REAL PEOPLE in any way !!!
            2. Armata
              Armata 24 July 2012 13: 18
              +4
              Quote: carbofo
              Can you accept Islam ?.

              And since when in Orthodoxy such things have been encouraged by steel? But the problem here is the whole article, and this is just what they found.
              1. carbofo
                carbofo 24 July 2012 13: 32
                -3
                Quote: Steam Train
                And since when in Orthodoxy such things have been encouraged by steel?

                Hmm, well, in Orthodoxy this is just a sin, not a criminal offense according to the Qur'an. If I'm not mistaken!!!
                1. vorobey
                  vorobey 24 July 2012 13: 46
                  +3
                  Sin leaves man with the possibility of repentance, realization, and correction without punishing the flesh. And the fear of punishment is not voluntary atonement.
                2. Odessa
                  Odessa 24 July 2012 16: 04
                  +7
                  carbofo,
                  Hmm, well, in Orthodoxy this is just a sin,

                  Orthodoxy regards abortion as a terrible sin. According to Orthodox canons, an abortion woman is equated with a murderer, has no right to go to church for about 20 years and has been excommunicated from Holy Communion, shorter than the epithy for many years. At present, Abbots are treated differently, but in Russia they once tried not to neglect the canons of the church.
                  And personally, my opinion, Muslim women are great that they do not clean, but give birth, in this they +.
                  1. carbofo
                    carbofo 24 July 2012 18: 20
                    -1
                    Odessa,
                    Scary is not scary, it's like someone, I’m in parallel.
                    And how much do you imagine how a Muslim woman differs from a Russian?
                    For example, in a lifestyle, I won’t give, I don’t want, I don’t want, my head hurts.
                    I did not notice the absence of chauvinism among Muslims!

                    Yes, and our social education, on the subject of family relations, is terrible.
                    Therefore, especially no one wants to start a family, they are waiting for a bright future. something like this.
                    1. Odessa
                      Odessa 24 July 2012 18: 38
                      +2
                      carbofo,
                      Scary is not scary, it's like someone, I’m in parallel.
                      And how much do you imagine how a Muslim woman differs from a Russian?
                      For example, in a lifestyle, I won’t give, I don’t want, I don’t want, my head hurts.
                      I did not notice the absence of chauvinism among Muslims!

                      This is your personal opinion, and by the way, it’s also for me on the drum.
                      Yes, and our social education, on the subject of family relations, is terrible.

                      Forget about the socialist system, free education, sports sections and interest groups have sunk into the depths of history, loving parents are usually engaged in raising children if you are not aware of this.
                      Therefore, especially no one wants to start a family, they are waiting for a bright future.

                      Nonsense, if you are stuck somewhere in the 80s of the last century and dream of a bright future, then this is your personal problem. And do not answer for everyone, there are a huge number of happy people living in marriage.
                      1. carbofo
                        carbofo 25 July 2012 11: 09
                        0
                        Quote: Odessa

                        This is your personal opinion, and by the way, it’s also for me on the drum.

                        Everyone on the drum, this is how the future is built!

                        Quote: Odessa
                        loving parents are usually involved in raising children if you are not aware of this.

                        Yes, now children's leisure is an expensive pleasure, it is annoying, but as you say, it all depends on the parents.
                        Eee, and these parents know a lot about education, who watched Tom and Jerry all their lives, because the ancestors had to plow from morning till night to earn money, I certainly exaggerate, but in general the trends are negative.

                        Quote: Odessa
                        if you are stuck somewhere in the 80s of the last century and dream of a bright future

                        Who knows what I'm waiting for, I don’t know, but you know ...
                        Among my friends, many are family but a significant part are unmarried, and many are childless and the reason is not the inability to make a child, but the lack of motivation for this.
          2. vorobey
            vorobey 24 July 2012 12: 36
            +5
            Zhenya, introduce a ban on abortion and that’s all. Sterligov proposed a simple solution in one gear. but it is not profitable. Go back to history, starting with Bismarck, read his thoughts and how the Nazis actively promoted them in the occupied territories at the time. And now all this liberal trash under the guise of freedom and equality is shoving the heads of our children, or do you think glamorous knots are born? No, they become in the process of worshiping idols like Barbie dolls and Ksenia's horses.
    4. vorobey
      vorobey 24 July 2012 11: 58
      +7
      And our ancestors in poverty and hunger for 7-8 children started and raised. What conditions? We became simple selfish wimps. Think less about warm sartier, and more about who you will transfer your knowledge to?
      1. revnagan
        revnagan 24 July 2012 13: 26
        +1
        Quote: vorobey
        What conditions? Selfish weaklings we just became

        What are the conditions? Approximately equal for everyone. Faith in the future, in justice, for everyone. Hope. Yes, we will celebrate this New Year with a herring, and the next with sausage. Yes, our cause is right, we won. It is difficult now, but it is difficult for everyone, tomorrow it will be easier. So our grandparents thought. Let's return all this, our land will grow with new people. In the meantime, as one Ukrainian "president" said, we have what we have.
        1. vorobey
          vorobey 24 July 2012 13: 49
          +4
          So who prevents to live like that now. Faith or she is not there. There is no middle and a warm sartier with a conder has nothing to do with it. It’s a paradox, but the soul can exist separately from the body, but the body turns into a vegetable without a soul.
    5. revnagan
      revnagan 24 July 2012 13: 17
      +2
      Quote: MHP
      To create a pancake normal human conditions for the family will be fertility.
      And do not fool around in this article, It's like twice two!

      That's right. And if abortion is banned, they will do it underground, grandmothers will have sepsis, women will die, they will do it at any time, for big money. The state needs people, create conditions. And there is no need for pharisaism and crocodile tears about the demographic crisis. The state has funds, it needs to be spent wisely. Not on the support of officials, not on increasing the livestock of black ... puffs, but to support normal families. Otherwise, here, in Ukraine, in connection with the increase in payments for the birth of a child, they began to give birth ... well, how would it be more tolerant ... Roma, Caucasians, drug addicts, alcoholics ... Grandmothers about ... rage, and children go to an orphanage, or crawl, dirty, crumpled, begging. Yes, look around, open your eyes, because the very policy of the state is simply sharpened to destroy the normal, thinking, indigenous Slavic population and attract foreigners. And they still have the audacity to moan: "ah-ah, the demographic crisis .."
      So, he said that I think that my soul is boiling, minus it.
      1. MHP
        MHP 24 July 2012 14: 52
        +1
        Dear Alexey!

        I understand you, by the way, not only yours has boiled, everyone has boiled! In this I agree with you.
        And as for the foreign ones, here you are wrong my friend, regardless of nationality, everyone is equal before the law and everyone is a citizen of Ukraine!
        1. revnagan
          revnagan 24 July 2012 15: 10
          +1
          Quote: MHP
          as for foreign, then here you are wrong my friend, regardless of nationality, everyone is equal before the law and everyone is a citizen of Ukraine!

          These "citizens of Ukraine" do not speak a language understandable to the majority of the indigenous population and do not even try to learn it. They live according to their own, incomprehensible laws brought from outside, and do not even try to assimilate here. They do not work at our enterprises, interrupting not quite legal transactions, with contempt for our way of life. They will never become one of us, and they do not want this. But money from the state of Ukraine for the birth of ... the eleventh child they receive. Guess what color the skin will be for most "Ukrainians "In 50 years in this situation? Yes, we will lose our territory without any war.
    6. ole
      ole 24 July 2012 13: 38
      +2
      100% rightsMHP., right now about paid services in health care there was an infa, I have three children, two are sick, I live in a regional center, I have to carry them to the regional center, and you think the state is helping something. What children shine, odent, learn. Children, this little happiness will smile and become easier, live and think that my children will be better, but the trouble is that my parents and their parents always thought that their children would be easier. Unfortunately, the economic component is of great importance and the right person who said that large families are formed when it is beneficial for the family to be large. From time immemorial in the village, if the family is big then it is well-to-do. The village was ravaged, the people were rotten - get the population. Russians endure their whole lives, but their patience comes to an end.
    7. Yurkin
      Yurkin 25 July 2012 01: 14
      0
      What do you think is normal?
  3. vladimir64ss
    vladimir64ss 24 July 2012 10: 16
    +1
    This is disgusting and cynical. Someone warmed his hands.
    1. Vadivak
      Vadivak 24 July 2012 10: 24
      +4
      Quote: vladimir64ss
      Someone warmed his hands.


      How is that? The mediator between the hospital and the cemetery, only to not pay money to the cemetery, gave the order - the corpses are derailed. Capitalism ....
      1. antiaircrafter
        antiaircrafter 24 July 2012 10: 56
        +4
        Quote: Vadivak
        How is that?

        Easily.
        Biological waste is disposed of by burning in special furnaces. Such activities are licensed. Money is allocated (at least should). Either the head physician had a fictitious contract, or the recycling office itself did it.
        Something like this, at first glance. The investigation will figure it out.
  4. scrack
    scrack 24 July 2012 10: 18
    +4
    I think that the idea of ​​banning abortion is useful and needs to be implemented, but, on the other hand, this will lead to an increase in the number of illegal abortions, and, accordingly, an increase in crime that will make money on it. Therefore, strong state control is needed here.
    1. Lacoste
      Lacoste 24 July 2012 10: 22
      +1
      And the ban on abortion will entail a number of street children. And imagine this situation: your daughter at 16 years old flew ... What will you do?
      1. Trapperxnumx
        Trapperxnumx 24 July 2012 10: 32
        +1
        We educate. And we’ll pour daughters on the first number.
        1. Lacoste
          Lacoste 24 July 2012 10: 36
          +1
          Well, this is in your family. And there are families where there is no one to educate, work is necessary ... The prohibition of abortion is needed, but first it is necessary that people become more responsible, chtoli ...
          1. Trapperxnumx
            Trapperxnumx 24 July 2012 10: 46
            +3
            IMHO - one will entail the other. Now many people consider how - yes lan, garbage, I will heal - I’ll go and have an abortion and I’ll do the whole business. And if there is a ban on abortion, they will already begin to think. In our country at least 1 million abortions per year. this is only in the last 10 years — a minimum of 10 million people, Russians (mainly). I have families of many children that are familiar (all Orthodox) - every time I am surprised at how different the children are, some in mathematics, some who love chemistry, others just have hands that are still small, but already golden. You admire them, like, I don’t even know what to compare with, because there isn’t anything with which you can compare a child, is he like a microcosm or something ...
  5. White
    White 24 July 2012 10: 18
    0
    In my house there lives a family of drunks of about 30 years old. They have four children. The fifth was born. Recently they were deprived of their parental rights - it would be better if they had abortions or they give birth to children for the sake of money.

    Normal people think about the future, I don’t know how in Russia, but we still have a problem with schools, kindergartens, children's camps, clubs, etc. but I’m silent about the money.

    PS embryos are a source of stem cells invaluable material throw them away it's idiocy
    1. Trapperxnumx
      Trapperxnumx 24 July 2012 10: 34
      +2
      From CHILDREN? Little and innocent CHILDREN? Can they still put them on sausage? Che disappear then?
      Fu already became disgusting ...
      1. Gavrilon
        Gavrilon 24 July 2012 11: 02
        0
        Quote: Trapper7
        From CHILDREN? Little and innocent CHILDREN? Can they still put them on sausage? Che disappear then? Fu shit already became disgusting ...


        I support, but if you look from the point of view of survival ...

        For example, the family of a beloved child received an injury, etc. mother had an abortion against a nervous background, everything would have become a pathology, and from this embryo they received the necessary material and slept their beloved daughter. Somehow like this.
      2. White
        White 24 July 2012 11: 42
        +1
        If an abortion has already been done, then the child can no longer be returned, but if there is an opportunity to save another life, or maybe not one is it worth it? And how then relates to an organ transplant?
    2. carbofo
      carbofo 24 July 2012 12: 12
      -1
      White,
      Embryo to embryo discord.
  6. Vanek
    Vanek 24 July 2012 10: 19
    +2
    motivating his desire with “material”, “personal”

    We have a daughter-in-law, too: - Money is not enough, then, this. She was asked one question: - There was a war - they gave birth to children. Comment on.
  7. volcano
    volcano 24 July 2012 10: 29
    +7
    Well, I see ... most likely clandestine abortions.
    I would have banned abortion altogether. An exception may be an abortion for medical reasons (when the child is a freak and cannot survive, or the mother does not survive well, etc.). Do not want children to use contraceptives. Do not know how or do not know ..... give birth. If for some reason you do not want children .... get registered (you need to create a service for the supervision of such mothers) gave birth and sent to an orphanage. This is better than in the trash .... Ugh shame .... Bestiality.
    The state should immediately think over a mechanism for the prohibition of abortion and the upbringing of "unwanted" children.
    Well, I did an abortion ..... I went to jail for 10 years (and that freak that I did too). After all, you ... have killed a MAN.
    1. Trapperxnumx
      Trapperxnumx 24 July 2012 10: 39
      +2
      volcano, I wrote it right. I fully support.
    2. Vanek
      Vanek 24 July 2012 10: 46
      +2
      Quote: volkan
      Well, I did an abortion ..... I went to jail for 10 years (and that freak that I did too). After all, you ... have killed a MAN.


      But you can’t argue.
      1. montemor
        montemor 24 July 2012 12: 55
        0
        And if God forbid, did you give birth to a child from this scumbag? Tell me a certificate from the police and do it freely. You yourself know how everything is solved with certificates
        1. Armata
          Armata 24 July 2012 12: 59
          +2
          Quote: montemor
          And if God forbid, did they give birth to a child from this scumbag? Tell me a certificate from the police and do it freely?

          Well, actually this is a criminal case.
        2. leon-iv
          leon-iv 24 July 2012 13: 18
          +1
          Termination of pregnancy is quite possible in the early stages of medication. And no surgical intervention is needed. Or a test to buy for 15 rubles a problem?
    3. carbofo
      carbofo 24 July 2012 12: 18
      +1
      volcano,
      And why don’t you run around the women, don’t give flowers, don’t solder, so that they wouldn’t have to decide to live on because of idiots or climb the wall with kinder at 16.
      You yourself give birth to cynics in skirts with your hmm, because the stick does not want and cannot think about responsibility, and the brain has not yet formed.
      By the way, it’s up to you to decide whether a child wants a child or not. Who gives birth to that and decide.
      In general, the topic is long-standing and complex, we must look at evaluating and deciding on the merits.
      1. vorobey
        vorobey 24 July 2012 13: 25
        +2
        Quote: carbofo
        In general, the topic is long-standing and complex, it is necessary to look at evaluating and solving essentially

        And the ancestors were all easier. If a slut, then universal Poritsalovo guaranteed, and married does not shine. And we introduced it to the rank of a profession.
        In the meantime, we will think and evaluate continue to contemplate the barrels.
        1. carbofo
          carbofo 24 July 2012 13: 35
          +1
          vorobey,
          Like that, morality multiplied by wealth creates a normal society.
          And not idiots under the rainbow banners that even the space criminals Rat and Veselchak-u considered gays :(
        2. leon-iv
          leon-iv 24 July 2012 14: 42
          0
          Are you talking about prostitution?
      2. volcano
        volcano 24 July 2012 22: 24
        +1
        Well, not for you.
        And I don’t run through women. I am a normal man. I have a beloved wife. And the son is growing.
  8. Kaa
    Kaa 24 July 2012 10: 47
    +3
    1) Abortion - only for strict medical reasons, if there is a threat to the mother’s life or an accurately identified severe genetic pathology, malformation of the fetus.
    2) Now is not the middle of the 20th century, in order to "fly in", in any consultation, center, at school, in the end, both preziki and other contraceptives are distributed, if it’s already hot.
    3) For a criminal abortion - responsibility, as for premeditated murder and a failed "mother" and "artisan abortionist", normal the doctor won’t go for a creme.
    4) Family, school, churches, get down to business, explain to children that the thrill of intercourse was invented by nature to increase fertility, and not for hedonism.
    5) Fascism is evil, but even they had the "Children of the Fuehrer" program, let the government REALLY shell out for the needs of those children that "mothers" do not need.
    1. sergo0000
      sergo0000 24 July 2012 12: 14
      0
      Kaa,
      Well, we cannot do it without extremes! There is already such a juvenile justice program or inspection called!
      This is when a commission of fat-faced fed officials comes into a poor family and opens refrigerators and cabinets with children's things in order to check your financial situation for children's happiness, and then they remove the children from their parents if these gentlemen don’t like it. And you can return them only through court !
  9. Concept1
    Concept1 24 July 2012 10: 58
    +3
    These are all the fruits of a debilitating TV, pop culture brought from the West and the crap that it already warps, I can’t even hear the word.
  10. Bezarius
    Bezarius 24 July 2012 10: 59
    +1
    Of course, I am against abortion, but to produce poverty is not good. It’s better to let young mothers get paid a month a piece of bucks until the 18 anniversary of the child and there will be no abortion and you will have a birth rate.
    1. sergo0000
      sergo0000 24 July 2012 12: 32
      0
      Bezarius,
      Good offer! +
    2. carbofo
      carbofo 24 July 2012 12: 46
      +2
      Bezarius,
      Guess from 3 times who will breed like rabbits? Not Russian, we will have our own blacks who only do what they live on benefits.
      It is necessary to think
      1. sergo0000
        sergo0000 24 July 2012 15: 47
        0
        carbofo,
        But this is what juvenile justice must do!, Control and HELP in employment, and not the removal of children from the family!
        And you take an interest in how much rubles a single mother receives in your region per month! And is it possible to live on this money!
        Lump sums do not count. Since in half a year from them usually only pleasant memories remain!
        1. sergo0000
          sergo0000 24 July 2012 17: 23
          +2
          In general, this topic is very difficult and delicate, so that it’s so easy to talk about it. Who is to blame and what to do. People have lost their conscience and faith!
    3. Trapperxnumx
      Trapperxnumx 24 July 2012 13: 14
      0
      Excess money will result in laziness, spoilage and sloppiness. And we have enough of this good. Up to three years - still agree. And then - work, work and work again.
  11. RUSmen
    RUSmen 24 July 2012 11: 04
    0
    These barrels, 100 pounds underground, for this in the slammer and "patient and" doctors
  12. Evgeny B.
    Evgeny B. 24 July 2012 11: 21
    +3
    We live by the laws imposed on us. Each nation must live according to its national laws (I do not mean the nation of criminals and parasites). We adopted the laws of the general people, therefore we have a result. A departure from one's national views is betrayal. Therefore, what is happening is natural!
  13. Russlana
    Russlana 24 July 2012 11: 53
    0
    Read, there are also abortions there, cities of unborn and killed children.

    http://www.rf-agency.ru/acn/krizis_ru.htm
  14. Z.A.M.
    Z.A.M. 24 July 2012 12: 02
    0
    Actually, it’s not correct to discuss this topic (4 barrels) without an educational program from doctors. Where are the doctors here? Enlighten.

    And in the news, the following has passed. The local native, stumbled on free plastic barrels, wanted to grab them. One was open, for about half an hour he figured out what the contents looked like. When it came to, almost (and maybe I) justified. He ran to his own, told WHAT he found, they thought that he was crazy, but they called the cops. Those confirmed that in EMBRYON barrels in formaldehyde, with tags from three medical facilities. The news also said that it was possible that they were stillborn, and they collected the remains for subsequent cremation. Something like this.
    In my opinion, the one who was supposed to cremate - scored, and this is not an abortion, the term is not the same, but the embryonic stem cells? ...
    Once again, I would like to hear the opinion of doctors.

    But abortion is not. And if it turns out that it was still abortion (on such a deadline !!!) ... I don’t know what to speak about those obstetricians ... The devil is resting.
  15. Alameido
    Alameido 24 July 2012 12: 47
    +4
    It seems to me that in order to reduce the number of abortions (it would be completely cruel to prohibit) it is necessary to put a mark on the abortion in the passport and those who wish will immediately become several times less. and a man who wanted to marry a girl could immediately find out how many abortions she had and whether they were at all. And as of now, everything is confidential (the girl doesn’t admit it when), and then they think about why they cannot give birth.
  16. strannik595
    strannik595 24 July 2012 12: 53
    +4
    I have a son and a daughter, and abortion is an unambiguous murder and a serious sin, because of this the family is crumbling and the killer parents suffer from serious illnesses
  17. soldat1945
    soldat1945 24 July 2012 14: 09
    +3
    I don’t know whether a comment was on the topic Vladimir or Moscow was traveling by bus at a rest stop, about 20 people went out for a smoke specially counted 16 of them young girls 18-30 years old, something happens with our girls, and abortions should be prohibited as Stalin did when over the country was threatened with extinction, only for this we need political will, and for now it is enough for us only to prevent people from gathering on the streets!
    1. Odessa
      Odessa 24 July 2012 16: 14
      +1
      soldat1945,
      You are considering the effect, not the cause.
      and abortion needs to be banned

      These babies need to be taught how to protect themselves, because after the termination of the first pregnancy, there is no guarantee that the second will come. After abortion, it’s obvious that the woman’s body is permanently damaged, there are very frequent cases in which abortion women are born full term etc. From this factor, and go, if not full-term it means weak, and after 18 years, it is not suitable for a call, etc.
      1. soldat1945
        soldat1945 24 July 2012 21: 28
        +1
        The fact that you need to learn how to protect yourself is not even discussed, and I know all the consequences of abortion, I’m talking about their prohibition, the state needs a child who will be born, I still believe in my country and I think all these temporary workers who run us sooner or later will run away to where they get paid , another question is what we will remain with, but in general the problem itself is a consequence of all our transformations over the last 21 years of managing traitors!
        1. Odessa
          Odessa 25 July 2012 01: 44
          +1
          soldat1945,
          the child who will be born will be needed by the state

          And why are you trying to put the burden on the state? Every child should have a father, who has never been blown away by the wind, in the whole history of mankind. And no one argues that it is necessary to work to provide for their children .
          in general, the problem itself is a consequence of all our transformations over the last 21 years of managing traitors!

          You are mistaken, in 1936 they introduced a cancellation of abortions. Look on the internet, there is a shaft of information on this topic.
          1. carbofo
            carbofo 25 July 2012 11: 15
            -1
            Quote: Odessa
            Every child should have a father, who has never been blown away by the wind, in the whole history of mankind

            Some believe that it is not needed, and live alone.
            It blew what is called happens.
      2. carbofo
        carbofo 25 July 2012 11: 12
        0
        Quote: Odessa
        These infants must be taught how to protect themselves.


        Well, educate, why yell then?
        1. Odessa
          Odessa 25 July 2012 16: 07
          0
          carbofo,
          Well, educate, why yell then?

          And who is yelling? It’s your barrels of abortion waste that are thrown away. You’re doing dozens of abortions. And it’s only blowing carbofo up with the wind. Don’t write nonsense!
          1. carbofo
            carbofo 25 July 2012 16: 19
            0
            Odessa,
            We have abortions in thousands, God forbid, not hundreds of thousands :(.
            And waste from abortion, this is an internal affair of the Ministry of Health, and now even the Ministry of Internal Affairs, violation in this case has an ethical aspect rather than a criminal act. But I can start a criminal case, time will tell.
            As for the wind, you exaggerated it, but nevertheless, getting pregnant without having sexual contact is quite possible.
    2. mind1954
      mind1954 24 July 2012 19: 47
      +3
      JV Stalin forbade abortion, but did everything possible in those
      conditions for newborns! An employee worked for us. She has
      parents died and she grew up in an orphanage after the war. Despite
      for any revelations, on her table lay a photograph of I.V. Stalin.
      And she said: "I don't want to listen to anything. JV Stalin raised us!"
      The country was waiting for these children. She hoped for them. She needed them !!!

      Now what are children for? Replenish the army of unemployed to
      to bring down the level of beggarly wages for unlimited enrichment of thieves?
      So they adapted and now do it through uncontrolled
      delivery of shabashniks - strikebreakers !!!
      1. carbofo
        carbofo 25 July 2012 11: 26
        0
        mind1954,
        Exactly, we only talk about what we need and what to do, and only a few do something.
        Most need faith in the goal to which they must go, and when this is not, it is difficult to live.
  18. Vanek
    Vanek 24 July 2012 14: 14
    +6
    One day :

    A resident of Novosibirsk gave birth to four babies at once
    Material provided by Vesti - Novosibirsk

    Two girls and two boys. Doctors of the city hospital helped them to be born. The last time a quadruple was born in our city 10 years ago!
    1. vorobey
      vorobey 24 July 2012 14: 41
      +4
      Well done resident of Novosibirsk. And here is a resident of Novosibirsk of strength and patience, patience, patience, patience .....
      1. Vanek
        Vanek 24 July 2012 14: 53
        +3
        And here's another, but probably to the delight of "Russophobes"

        Mom, dad and four new people will live in the same room, in a hostel.

        But to the delight of Us (me at least), they will collect information, then, syo. And they will move, at least to the "three rubles". Yes, not right away (or maybe immediately), but they will move. I have no doubts on this score.
        1. Armata
          Armata 24 July 2012 15: 00
          +3
          Quote: Vanek
          ... And they will move, at least to "three rubles"

          By the way, they will be allocated by the state, and free of charge. This is how we take care of large families.
        2. vorobey
          vorobey 24 July 2012 15: 01
          +3
          They will also receive a land plot and 400 thousand to develop the plot.
          1. sergo0000
            sergo0000 24 July 2012 15: 50
            +2
            vorobey,
            Well, at least one good news from Ivan! winked + + +
            1. vorobey
              vorobey 24 July 2012 16: 20
              +2
              Ivan is very serious. You see Serega even writes- FOR EVIL OF THE DAY.
              1. sergo0000
                sergo0000 24 July 2012 17: 35
                +1
                vorobey,
                That's just happy Sasha wink that large families now have support from the state!
          2. Middle-brother
            Middle-brother 24 July 2012 16: 25
            0
            it is unlikely
            Here Russlana laid out a reference. http://www.rf-agency.ru/acn/krizis_ru.htm
            1. vorobey
              vorobey 24 July 2012 16: 50
              +1
              I read this nonsense and read the law.
  19. leon-iv
    leon-iv 24 July 2012 16: 18
    +2
    Here is an interesting schedule
    1. Odessa
      Odessa 24 July 2012 16: 27
      +2
      leon-iv,
      Here is an interesting schedule

      In the United States, the birth curve has declined. Because of the rainbow freaks that can’t breed, it will be the same in Britain, because of the homophobic rabble.
      1. lelikas
        lelikas 24 July 2012 20: 26
        +2
        That's right, we have banned the advertising of homosexuality!
      2. carbofo
        carbofo 25 July 2012 11: 28
        0
        Odessa,
        What are you, you are not in the trend is the same fashion :).
        But seriously, you're right. And this is just the beginning.
  20. darkman70
    darkman70 24 July 2012 16: 37
    +1
    So, the time has come to declare that since we need a radical shift in demographics in the direction of increasing birth rates, it is time to legally ban abortions, equating them to homicide, that is, calling a spade a spade

    With both hands "for" !!!
  21. Anubis
    Anubis 24 July 2012 17: 13
    +1
    Partly agree with the author (regarding the prohibition of abortion) but with reservations:
    - for the family (or woman) who gave birth to a child, the state should allocate interest-free mortgages to purchase housing (if there is a need)
    - at the birth of a second child, the size of housing increases and the state writes off half of the mortgage debt
    - at the birth of the third, writes off 2/3 of the debt
    - A woman worker who has given birth to a child must receive a benefit comparable to the salary of a high-ranking official for three years
    - The state must guarantee the placement of the child in state. or municipal garden, and in the absence of such an opportunity to compensate for the costs of a private
    1. leon-iv
      leon-iv 24 July 2012 17: 53
      -1
      - for the family (or woman) who gave birth to a child, the state should allocate interest-free mortgages to purchase housing (if there is a need)
      not interest-free, but according to the refinancing rate.
      - at the birth of a second child, the size of housing increases and the state writes off half of the mortgage debt
      Already have maternity capital
      at the birth of the third, writes off 2/3 of the debt
      Now there are regional subsidies for this.
      a woman worker who has given birth to a child must receive a benefit comparable to the salary of a high-ranking official for three years
      What for? There is a benefit up to 1,5 years. Next, a woman should stop breastfeeding (this is critically important for the health of the nation) and give the baby to nursery (Their provision is a separate conversation). Why knock competent personnel out of the economy. But to work not a full working week until a child reaches 3 years old is important. DO NOT produce parasites just giving money.
      the state must guarantee the placement of the child in state. or municipal garden, and in the absence of such an opportunity to compensate for the costs of a private
      IMHO I consider the development of home kindergartens to be critical.

      Threat I speak as a taxpayer and father of two children.
      1. Denzel13
        Denzel13 24 July 2012 22: 44
        0
        To be honest, leon, we do not live "because, but in spite of" - only a blind person or an official will not see that we have a problem with fertility in our country, and first of all it is a problem of the state. the state is for citizens, and not citizens for the state (although officials think otherwise).
  22. Odessa
    Odessa 24 July 2012 17: 16
    +6
    Dismissed from Odnoklassniki.
    A worried woman came to the gynecologist and said:
    "Doctor, I have a serious problem, I am desperate, I need your help! My child is not yet a year old, and I am pregnant again. I do not want my children to be almost the same age."

    Then the doctor asked: "Okay, what do you suggest me?"

    She said: "I want you to terminate my pregnancy, I am counting on your help."

    The doctor thought a little and after a short silence said to the woman: "I think I have a better solution for you. And also less dangerous for you."

    She smiled, deciding that the doctor agreed to fulfill her request.

    Then he continued: “I propose this, in order for you not to take care of two children at once, let's kill the child that you already have.
    In this case, you could rest a bit until the second is born. And if we are going to kill one child, then there is no difference which of them.
    You will not jeopardize your health by killing a child that is born. "

    The woman exclaimed in horror: "No doctor! What a horror! To kill a child is a crime!"

    "I agree," the doctor replied. But, in my opinion, you were READY to go for it, and I thought maybe it would be the best solution. "

    The doctor smiled, realizing that he had achieved his goal.

    He convinced the young mother that there was no difference between killing a born child and one who was still in the womb.

    The crime is the same!

    If you agree, please click the class. Together we can help save precious lives!
    1. Nikopol
      Nikopol 25 July 2012 00: 00
      0
      I'm afraid to upset you ... even after reading such a "heartbreaking" text, many will not refuse to have an abortion. A simple example - there are girls who have already had 22 abortions by the age of 3. (From my own experience).
      1. Odessa
        Odessa 25 July 2012 00: 59
        0
        Nikopol,
        I'm afraid to upset you ... even after reading such a "heartbreaking" text, many will not refuse to have an abortion. A simple example - there are girls who have already had 22 abortions by the age of 3. (From my own experience).

        You are unlikely to upset me. It depends on males like you if your girlfriend did an abortion on you.
        I personally have more than one abortion and three children, and I feel beautifully myself! And you made hell for her and the unborn children, and these abortions will come back to haunt her health, after a while, and that's all `` thanks '' to you! brag, I despise such `` men ''!
        1. Nikopol
          Nikopol 25 July 2012 01: 51
          +2
          To begin with, not a single girl has flown from me yet (God was merciful, and I don’t forget about contraception). Secondly - personal experience does not mean that I am the culprit of her mistakes. Thirdly, I’m glad for you; now you rarely meet families with three children.
          In conclusion - thanks for the minus, but the truth is the truth. It is necessary to change the consciousness of the people, and to promote not one child in the family (as it is stubbornly done on TV - if you notice), but at least 3.
          1. Odessa
            Odessa 25 July 2012 02: 00
            +1
            Nikopol,
            To begin with, not a single girl has flown from me yet (God was merciful, and I don’t forget about contraception). Secondly - personal experience does not mean that I am the culprit of her mistakes.

            Immediately write, sorry for hitting!
            [In conclusion - thanks for the minus, but the truth is the truth

            Hold the plus, and raise the rating, the true one!
        2. carbofo
          carbofo 25 July 2012 11: 32
          0
          Quote: Odessa
          your girlfriend did abortions from you.


          Are you not a feminist? Something in the texts is an outspoken dislike of men, no one said anything, and you already hung labels that supposedly your woman was causing abortions to be done!
          Read something carefully. Expressivity is not bad but in moderation.
          1. Odessa
            Odessa 25 July 2012 16: 12
            0
            carbofo,
            And you are not a feminist?, Something in the texts is an outspoken dislike for men

            Only to people like you!
            Read something carefully. Expressivity is not bad but in moderation.

            This will not hurt you, no matter what is `` clever ''. wassat
            1. carbofo
              carbofo 25 July 2012 16: 23
              0
              Odessa,
              Quote: Odessa
              Only to people like you!

              I wonder where am I? , did not participate, was not involved, but still guilty somehow not according to Freud.
              Girl, do you have a husband? so much tolerance out of the blue does not sprout.

              Quote: Odessa
              This will not hurt you, no matter what is `` clever ''. wassat

              This is exactly the kind of smile in real life that I presented! You’re not messing around in the case, it doesn’t seem.
      2. carbofo
        carbofo 25 July 2012 11: 33
        0
        Nikopol,
        They just need to show a video of this event, informative, but the nerves are sausage!
        1. Nikopol
          Nikopol 25 July 2012 17: 08
          +1
          Sausage may not be childish, but if a girl does not have an abortion for the first time - it makes sense to show this ...
          1. carbofo
            carbofo 25 July 2012 17: 45
            +1
            Nikopol,
            repeat offenders and repeat offenders!
  23. Fox
    Fox 24 July 2012 19: 18
    -3
    tax on women "for childlessness"!
  24. mind1954
    mind1954 24 July 2012 19: 28
    +3
    Previously, everyone said that these embryos used as
    biological material and sold abroad. Therefore, in every possible way,
    encouraged abortion to the detriment of contraceptive use.
    Now it turns out that we have come to the point that these materials
    nobody needs? !!!
    BUT PAY ATTENTION! THESE BARRELS EVEN DIDN'T CARE
    DROP! WHAT IS THE RESPONSIBILITY LEVEL IN THE COUNTRY ??? !!!
  25. lelikas
    lelikas 24 July 2012 20: 28
    +2
    And imagine what happened to the first person to find this? how to sleep after that.
    1. Nikopol
      Nikopol 24 July 2012 23: 57
      0
      You better ask those who knowingly carry the country to the abyss. How do they sleep - this is painfully interesting to me.
  26. Uncle
    Uncle 24 July 2012 21: 52
    +3
    One woman, pregnant, came to a certain person of holy life for a blessing on abortion. And he tells her, you say, give birth, and then in a stroller put in the cold for a little longer. This is supposedly a lesser sin than abortion. The shocked woman left in tears, so the old man found such an approach. It seems to me that talking about a low material level is self-justification. I have friends, they have FIVE !!! And the Lord provides the means for a UNBEATABLE existence.
    And stem cells are extracted from embryos from which rejuvenation agents are made. It’s a very expensive pleasure, just imagine, some aunt, the wife of a rich man who made a fortune in ruining Russia, introduces himself stem cells drawn from the children of a country that her hubby robbed! Well, nothing, he dies anyway, there he will answer for everything, and then their children will answer, as they say, the Lord suffers for a long time, but he hurts!
    1. Odessa
      Odessa 25 July 2012 01: 52
      0
      Uncle,
      You write precisely as a deep-believing Orthodox Christian. But the world is not perfect, not everyone will share your point of view. And here in Israel, in such a religious country, a huge number of abortions are done. They pull out like a bad tooth and say that believers, this is really the top guile and hypocrisy. God judge them!
  27. Denzel13
    Denzel13 24 July 2012 23: 38
    +2
    Have you read the last one? The Ministry of Health believes that "the incident with embryos is a gross violation of ethics" - damn it, this is gross criminal cynicism. Do you still have questions about the demographic policy of the Russian Federation?
  28. Nikopol
    Nikopol 24 July 2012 23: 55
    +1
    Bravo to the author, there is nothing to add - "conspiracy with an accomplice-doctor deliberately goes to the murder of a healthy child." For your information, most doctors are against abortion. And believe me, if the will of the gynecologists who do them, they would have long been recognized as illegal. But for some reason they do not want to remember about the superior crap, who actually legalized abortion. If you are fighting for human rights, then having an abortion is one of the rights of a woman.
    And if in essence - there are no prerequisites for a population explosion. All young people aged 18-25 dream primarily about career and money, and then about family and children. (Special thanks to the West and TV - no one canceled Alan Dulles’s plan)
  29. Uncle
    Uncle 25 July 2012 00: 19
    +3
    Quote: Denzel13
    only a blind person or an official will not see that in our country there is a problem with the birth rate, and first of all it is a problem of the state, because the state for citizens, not citizens for the state (although officials believe otherwise).

    Well, it’s not the official who pushes the woman for an abortion. This time. Baba does not give birth to the state and not to increase the birth rate. These are two. The reason for abortion is the general ease with which a person commits a sin. For many, secular law is not written, but God does not exist for them.
    1. Denzel13
      Denzel13 25 July 2012 11: 43
      0
      You are right Uncle the official does not personally push a woman to have an abortion, but there is such a concept in jurisprudence "... bringing to ...", but here it is the state that is largely to blame - it all starts with the level of education (including spiritual) and the degree of social protection and support.
  30. Magadan
    Magadan 25 July 2012 01: 25
    +3
    Still more dangerous guys. There is such an organization - Family Planning. This crap appeared in the early 90s. Well, there, as usual, continuous care of future mothers, psychological help, etc. In fact, there girls and expectant mothers are being talked about to abandon the child and have an abortion, well, there is a type of "you still need to plan and how you are going to live, you must first a house-apartment-car-career", in general, they very competently summarize this idea , although they don't say so directly.
    Embryos are then used to make money on pharmaceuticals.
    Another, the next, the most terrible crap is approaching us - this is juvenile justice. As usual - sheer caring for children, well, like every second there tortures his child, give rights to the child, do not dare to spank the child with a belt, etc. In Russia, the juvenile is used to pick up children from those families who have problems with housing. Asks people for an apartment from the mayor / governor. the children really have nowhere to stay, the freaks from the guardianship authorities immediately come and say "oh, so your children have nowhere to live, you are violating their rights," and they take the children away.
    Further there, in general, pure Satanism begins - in Europe, children are taken away as prostitutes, there are still some kind of slaves, etc. There is, however, terrible information - supposedly the children are then taken to Kosovo, where they are disassembled into organs. By the way, the heyday of the juvenile somehow strangely coincides in time with the occupation of Kosovo by the Albanians with NATO.
    In general, Satanism is surrounded by pure water. Moral freaks have long been among the authorities and the same as they pull themselves to themselves.
    What to do? To begin with, everyone should understand what the juvenile game threatens us and not be led by any arguments and "good" explanations of the juveniles. The family is the cell where NOBODY has the right to hammer its snout. Then they will begin to give birth to children, but it's just stupidly scary.