“The fighter is becoming obsolete”: in India they decided to carry out the re-equipment of the Su-30

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In India, they announced a developed program for the re-equipment of the Su-30 fighter. The Indian state-owned company HAL (Hindustan Aeronautics Limited) decided to carry out the re-equipment.

Indian media have reported that HAL plans to equip a Russian-designed fighter with a new cockpit with artificial intelligence. The materials referring to representatives of the state company indicate that the project started in November last year.



From the statement:

The digitalized cockpit should replace the analog cockpit of a Russian fighter. We are shifting the focus to the use of artificial intelligence, digital LCD screens. We intend to move away from analog sensors and switches on the panel.

It is noted that the artificial intelligence system developed in India is able to carry out commands and choose the best options when making decisions.

Project Engineer:

Pressing the button with the thumb of your left hand activates the VACS voice control system. This is a device weighing 2,7 kg, which with the help of artificial intelligence allows you to recognize the voice commands of crew members. For example, if the command “height and position” is given, the system will determine everything independently and inform the pilot of the necessary data. The system also allows voice selection. weapons.

It is stated that at the moment VACS allows speech recognition by 98%.

“But we intend to make it so that recognition is 100% complete,” the project engineer added.

The Indian media recall the statement of the retired Marshal aviation India Daljit Singh, who declared "obsolescence and reduced combat efficiency of Su-30MKI fighters."
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  1. 0
    25 February 2020 07: 25
    Mat in the list of kamand not included? And then, even before hypersonic fighter can disperse! Or, the plane interprets the command incorrectly, starts dancing in flight, the pilot with tea - forcibly - get drunk! !! belay
    1. +8
      25 February 2020 07: 33
      Digitalization is certainly good, but just replacing fully analog devices is not a visionary move. As far as I know, we have it all duplicated. And in case of an unexpected failure of the electronics, or system glitches, analog devices will be needed.
      And as for voice commands, in my time it will take much more than seeing on devices and performing actions .. And it happens with a person that you forget the word as it is called, not to mention the overload. Here's a "joke" it will be ..
      1. +3
        25 February 2020 07: 53
        I also thought about overloads. Come voice, then it can change. Will the AI ​​recognize the "new" host?
        1. +2
          25 February 2020 08: 35
          Quote: Hagalaz
          I also thought about overloads. Come voice, then it can change. Will the AI ​​recognize the "new" host?

          Yes, and touch control in an airplane? And how in case of vibration to get to the desired panel segment or point? Should I completely go away from the mechanics in the cab?
        2. -1
          25 February 2020 11: 51
          Quote: Hagalaz
          Come voice, then it can change. Will the AI ​​recognize the "new" host?

          I don’t think that the system will be tuned to the timbre of the voice of a particular pilot, because they can change ... For example: voice assistants Siri, Alice, Google - it doesn’t matter who asks a question to your iPhone or smartphone, the main thing is an understandable question or command.
          1. -1
            25 February 2020 16: 29
            Quote: helmi8
            For example: voice assistants Siri, Alice, Google

            Not a good example. It is not entirely correct to compare toys, created by and large for entertainment, with combat systems. What works beautifully in science fiction films is sometimes not quite applicable in reality. And the craze for digitalization will not lead to good. For many years now, the Americans have not been able to bring the software environment for their F-35 to mind. I am already silent about Boeing, with the latest disasters. And the Indians are simply promoting themselves when they themselves still have the MIG-21 in service. So it's beautiful to sketch, no one bothers. Let them dance on.
            1. -1
              25 February 2020 19: 52
              Quote: orionvitt
              Not a good example. Compare toys created by and large for entertainment, with combat systems, as it is not quite right.

              A normal example. I do not compare toys with combat systems, but the principle of operation. And no one in their right mind will tune AI to the timbre of the voice of a certain person - sometimes they kill in a war. And how then to be - to reconfigure the equipment or look for a person with a similar timbre of voice? And, as already mentioned above, during overloads and for the pilot, the voice changes, so the setting should be on the team, not the voice ...
          2. 0
            25 February 2020 19: 53
            It depends on what overload. A familiar pilot said, it happened that you don’t understand - you rattle felts, you hoarse felts.
            1. 0
              25 February 2020 19: 54
              Quote: TermNachTER
              you don’t understand - you hoarse felts, you hoarse felts.

              So that's what this is about.
      2. +1
        25 February 2020 08: 20
        The Su-35 has no analogue display indicators, no one complains. Duplication is purely due to two monitors.
        1. +2
          25 February 2020 08: 40
          It’s not for display meters, but for touch and voice control. Reading readings and introducing commands are like two big differences.
          1. +3
            25 February 2020 08: 52
            Nobody does this kind of garbage. If such systems worked, they might have been installed. And until that moment, there is a simulation of violent activity.
            1. +2
              25 February 2020 08: 57
              About that and the conversation. Well, let the Indians. They want to show off - the flag in hand.
      3. +4
        25 February 2020 09: 01
        Do not say, in voice there is an opportunity, without being distracted from the main action, to make additional ones. For example, take aim and make weapons at the same time, or work on the ground, aim, and with your voice control altitude and speed, without looking
      4. +1
        25 February 2020 09: 09
        "Sukhoi is certainly an excellent and powerful platform. In terms of payload and range, it has a high value, but the reality is that the program was originally launched in 1997 and there have been numerous technological advances since then that require updates for the aircraft "..
        The tasks are clear, what's stopping you?
        Radar with AFAR, there is a radio-electronic suppression station SAP-518SM for Su-30SM.
        A strike weapons and so worthy.
    2. -1
      25 February 2020 09: 30
      Mat is the remaining 2%
    3. -1
      25 February 2020 09: 35
      Quote: Thrifty
      Mat in the list of kamand not included? And then, even before hypersonic fighter can disperse! Or, the plane interprets the command incorrectly, starts dancing in flight, the pilot with tea - forcibly - get drunk! !! belay

      And if she swears at her mother, the rocket will fly off to the wrong place at all ..
  2. Eug
    +4
    25 February 2020 07: 31
    It is very interesting to know how speech recognition will occur during congestion. In principle, the re-equipment is logical, the aircraft has been developed for a long time and has been in operation for a long time, a lot has changed in the information field during this time, and the new generation of pilots is more likely to work with digital indicators ...
  3. +7
    25 February 2020 07: 43
    after all, they will break everything, it is said - do not touch the materiel - it will not fail. climb crooked handles
    1. +6
      25 February 2020 09: 16
      Quote: novel xnumx
      after all, they’ll break everything, it’s said - do not touch ..

      Novel hi ,
      the artificial intelligence system developed in India is able to execute commands and choose the best options when making decisions
      , and imagine what dancing in the air will make this plane, to the envy of the original and bolewood lol
      1. +6
        25 February 2020 09: 18
        I do not trust these Indians! Tramp. Hello! hi
        1. +8
          25 February 2020 09: 20
          I had a chance to work there, thank God for a very short time - I completely discouraged the desire to return there, even on an excursion
          1. +3
            25 February 2020 09: 22
            and exotic ?? tantrism ??
            1. +3
              25 February 2020 12: 29
              Quote: novel xnumx
              and exotic ??

              Exotic? This is when the 4th job is done by 18 people? Her, I don’t feel like it anymore. In addition to so many people in uniform, I have not seen anywhere in the world. Curry there is certainly great
  4. +1
    25 February 2020 07: 53
    Indian media have reported that HAL plans to equip a Russian-designed fighter with a new cockpit with artificial intelligence.

    We thought carefully before starting to distort what works!
    Someone has a special trust in their ... developers, modernizers?
  5. +1
    25 February 2020 08: 06
    It is stated that at the moment VACS allows speech recognition at 98%. "But we intend to make it such that recognition is carried out at 100%," added the project engineer.

    A little more, a little more Indian intelligence and there will be speech recognition like in the cheapest smartphone.

    Do they have permission from the design bureau to make changes to the serial design? Or they will "construct" so that they will begin to fight, but "the Russian plane has lost its unreliability."
  6. +3
    25 February 2020 08: 10
    “The fighter is becoming obsolete” ... the artificial intelligence system developed in India is capable of executing commands and choosing the best options when making decisions.

    It looks like someone showed the Indians a video with "dancing" fighters)
    1. +1
      25 February 2020 09: 40
      This is already art.
    2. +1
      25 February 2020 16: 35
      Quote: Mytholog
      someone showed the Indians a video with "dancing" fighters)

      These are generally models, but for Indians
  7. +2
    25 February 2020 08: 19
    The question is not that they will break the car with their crooked handles, but that it is outdated and more than them (and not only Indians) are not satisfied.
    That's what you need to talk about
  8. +5
    25 February 2020 08: 43
    with the command "Jimi, Jimi" the fighter is gaining altitude .. and as soon as the pilot makes the sound of "khacha khacha", the fighter starts attacking with all onboard weapons. artificial Indian intelligence, implies, when attacking an enemy fighter, to go into a deep tailspin with dances and songs.
    -to lead the opponents into a stupor, and confusion! Well, I'll write about this later!)
  9. -1
    25 February 2020 08: 53
    Nothing will come of them. To do this, you need to develop a new on-board computer and reassemble the plane around it. As ours did in the Su-35, with digital control of all systems. The cost of such a "remake" will be almost the same as for the new Su-30mki.
  10. +6
    25 February 2020 08: 53
    It's one thing when the "system" simply reports the current data on the devices, there are no problems. The output from this system goes only to the phones of the pilots.
    And a completely different question if this "system" by means of voice commands will be connected to the control of the aircraft. Here everything is much more complicated.
    It’s logical to test innovations limited to the first option.
  11. 0
    25 February 2020 09: 23
    and in the 21st flashes, too, a digital cockpit ... they seem to still fly there ...?
  12. +1
    25 February 2020 09: 37
    Let the official paper sign that in case of disasters, the responsibility lies with them.