The updated Constitution of Russia will force to close the Kuril issue: there are doubts

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If the Constitution of the Russian Federation contains a provision prohibiting the alienation of lands, Japan's hopes for the return of the South Kuril Islands will finally become illusory. The updated Constitution (if amendments are adopted and supported) will force to close the Kuril issue. Is it so?

For Tokyo, the very Kuril issue since the end of World War II is one of the most painful. Japan still considers the islands to be its own, and the current Prime Minister Shinzo Abe once vowed the spirit of his father to return the South Kuril Islands. It is the territorial dispute over the Kuril Islands that is the main reason that a peace treaty has not yet been signed between Russia and Japan.



Most Japanese publications demonstrate an uncompromising attitude in this matter.

Our line should be this: a peace treaty can be signed between the two countries only after solving the issue of the return of all four "northern islands" of Japan,

- writes, for example, the publication Hokkaido Shimbun.

By the way, even without a peace treaty, countries successfully trade with each other and interact at the highest level. Relations between Russia and Japan are generally developing quite well, but the Kuril issue still remains a stumbling block between the states. Moscow is well aware that Japan is the closest US ally in the Asia-Pacific region and the establishment of control over the South Kuril Islands will definitely lead to increased risks to the national security of our country. After all, the United States will have the opportunity to move closer to our Far East.


With the position of the Japanese side, everything is clear. For her, the return of the islands of Habomai, Iturup, Kunashir and Shikotan is a matter of national prestige. But in Russia for almost three decades of post-Soviet stories more than once some politicians and ordinary citizens have been talking about the possible return of the South Kuril Islands. Like, Russian-Japanese relations will benefit from this, and even the inhabitants of the islands themselves, who supposedly find themselves in much better conditions, will increase their standard of living.

But the opinion of most of our fellow citizens, of course, is unambiguous: you cannot give an inch of land to the Japanese, even if they "pay with gold." Indeed, for the South Kuril Islands, including, our soldiers and officers died in battles with the Japanese army.

If the amendment, which actor and director Vladimir Mashkov spoke at the meeting with the president, is adopted in the Constitution, the issue of the South Kuril Islands’ membership will be closed forever. At least for Russia. To transfer the islands of Japan, you have to change the Constitution. And the incumbent head of state will not do this, knowing full well that his rating in this case will rapidly fly down. Indeed, foreign policy is one of the few areas for the actions of the Russian authorities in which at least it is not a shame.

In Japan itself, they can only respond to an amendment to the Constitution of the Russian Federation in the information space. A few indignant statements from Japanese dignitaries, a series of stories and articles in the media, several rallies of Japanese nationalists at the Russian embassy in Tokyo - that, in fact, is the whole reaction of the Japanese side that can be expected in this case. The Country of the Rising Sun does not possess military potential comparable with the Russian one, and it will not be involved in adventures for the sake of several islands. Trade relations between states are unlikely to suffer.

Now trade with Russia brings Japan much greater benefits than what can be obtained from the entry of the South Kuril Islands into the empire. Russia is a huge market for the sale of Japanese products, a supplier of many resources, finally one of its closest neighbors, which, moreover, can serve as an intermediary in complex relations with China and the DPRK. And the Japanese leadership will not spoil existing relations, disrupt existing ties over the South Kuril Islands.

For Japan, it’s now profitable to continue trying to convince Vladimir Putin to give up at least part of the territories claimed by Tokyo in exchange for investment in the Russian economy. For example, Sergei Lavrov, speaking at the Territory of Meanings forum in August 2019, allowed the opportunity to discuss the transfer of the Habomai and Shikotan islands "in exchange for concluding a peace treaty and Japan's official recognition of Russia's sovereignty over the Kuril Islands." It turns out that the Russian leaders themselves do not yet have a tough and clear position on the South Kuril Islands, and it is precisely this fact that the Japanese will try to take advantage of in the near future. Because so far there are more questions than answers, and doubts remain also in connection with the position of the authorities mentioned above.
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  1. +3
    24 February 2020 11: 15
    The king said negotiations are ongoing with partners, so ...
    1. +18
      24 February 2020 11: 27
      Quote: snifer
      The king said negotiations are ongoing with partners, so ...

      Gorbach also talked a lot, and everyone knows what came of it.
      1. +38
        24 February 2020 11: 36
        Quote: Stroporez
        And the current head of state will not do this, knowing full well that his rating in this case will rapidly fly down


        We have raised the retirement age, and now I’m going to Elbasy .. naive reasoning .. The rating is now made from the air .. and with the help of sophisticated frauds ..
        Sergei Lavrov, speaking in August 2019 at the Territory of Meanings forum, allowed the possibility of discussing the transfer of the Habomai and Shikotan islands - "in exchange for the conclusion of a peace treaty and Japan's official recognition of Russia's sovereignty over the Kuril Islands." It turns out that the Russian leaders themselves do not yet have firm and clear position in the South Kuril Islands, and it is precisely this fact that the Japanese will try to take advantage of in the near future. Because so far there are more questions than answers, and doubts still remain in connection with the position of the authorities mentioned above.

        This government has a tough stance only in relation to its people ..
        1. -2
          24 February 2020 11: 43
          Quote: Svarog
          and now I’m going to Elbasy ..

          trust him to ebasy oh how far, I'm not talking about some pranks of Nazarbayev with his daughter
          1. +2
            24 February 2020 12: 53
            Did you "hold the say", what do you know about the "pranks" or "did the grandmother hear in the bazaar"?
            1. +2
              24 February 2020 13: 38
              Well, as if the granddaughter himself admitted that Nazik is not grandfather, but dad what’s Dariga’s mother, and I know exactly what the adder
        2. +24
          24 February 2020 11: 47
          Sergey Lavrov, speaking at the Territory of Meanings forum in August 2019, made it possible to discuss the transfer of the Habomai and Shikotan islands ...

          Something up there, they completely lost fear ???
          1. +14
            24 February 2020 11: 51
            And in the article on the map of Habomai Island, they already painted in Japanese color.
            1. +20
              24 February 2020 12: 00
              Quote: Sergey39
              And in the article on the map of Habomai Island, they already painted in Japanese color.

              Probably people are preparing to get used to the thought of a possible loss of islands.
              No transfer of the islands of Japan! We must declassify the ongoing negotiations with Japan! The people must know the truth! Then the islands will not color the colors of the property of the occupied country of Japland!
              1. +2
                24 February 2020 12: 10
                sure, not a problem. tell me when and who said at least once that they would be transferred in exchange for something? ) begin to understand that politics is the art of the possible. It is beneficial for the state to have the opportunity to discuss various issues for as long as possible carrying a bow in front of an opponent like a cat. make a harsh statement now and just get the enemy in the region. and why?
                1. +14
                  24 February 2020 12: 30
                  Quote: carstorm 11
                  tell me when and who said at least once that they would be transferred in exchange for something? )

                  Under Yeltsin. Each resident of the Kuril Islands was promised 50 thousand bucks and a ticket to the mainland, or Japanese citizenship. Almost agreed.
                  1. +1
                    24 February 2020 12: 34
                    I'm talking about the current government in general, but this rumor is accepted. I remember the same thing.
                    1. +11
                      24 February 2020 12: 39
                      Quote: carstorm 11
                      this rumor is accepted.

                      This is not a rumor. Almost everyone agreed there, then they pulled back. They say that the Japanese simply did not understand what to bring ... But this is a rumor ... wink
                      1. +1
                        24 February 2020 12: 42
                        who agreed with whom? official source is it possible? otherwise it will remain a rumor to me.
                      2. +8
                        24 February 2020 12: 44
                        Quote: carstorm 11
                        official source is it possible?

                        All the media wrote about this in the mid-90s. Sorry, did not save the waste paper.
                      3. +1
                        24 February 2020 12: 48
                        and various rumors are created about the Skripaly, for example) the media write something somewhere) I do not condone Yeltsin. chur me. but somehow used to rely on more serious sources. excuse me.
                      4. +4
                        24 February 2020 12: 55
                        Quote: carstorm 11
                        and various rumors about the Skripaly are created, for example) the media write something somewhere)

                        If you don’t remember, the same Komsomolka was printing not convenient for the authorities. Interview with Basayev, with Sasha-Macedon, with Dudaev ... They burned the archive to zero, and all for a short time ...
                      5. +3
                        24 February 2020 13: 02
                        again. I can’t focus on the media because of their complete discredit. I already asked a question and I will ask it now to you. why did the author put this particular card in the article?) because there is a bunch of normal ones and he put the one in which one of the islands is of a different color. that's all from the same opera about the media)
                      6. +4
                        24 February 2020 13: 04
                        Quote: carstorm 11
                        and ask him now to you. why did the author put this particular card in the article?) because there is a bunch of normal ones and he put the one in which one of the islands is of a different color. that's all from the same opera about the media)

                        I would answer, but I'm not the author, alas ... crying
                      7. +1
                        24 February 2020 13: 06
                        that's why I don’t believe it. such manipulations just offend me.
                      8. +3
                        24 February 2020 13: 09
                        Quote: carstorm 11
                        such manipulations just offend me.

                        I don’t call a liar at all.
                      9. -3
                        24 February 2020 13: 12
                        I'm not talking about this) I believe that the author specifically set this card and not out of stupidity. and the most important reason for this decision is not clear to me. increase the number of comments? or influence on the opinion of readers? that’s mean. and finely.
                      10. +6
                        24 February 2020 13: 21
                        You have voiced my thoughts: on the site, some authors deliberately provoke us to "come out with foam" more. Business edits yours to the left.
                      11. 0
                        24 February 2020 12: 46
                        And then Chubais was the prime minister. sad
                      12. +7
                        24 February 2020 14: 07
                        Quote: mordvin xnumx
                        And then Chubais was the prime minister. sad

                        Actually, "red-haired Tolik" was not the head of government.
                        "First DEPUTY Prime Minister": March 7, 1997 - March 23, 1998. V.S.Chernomyrdin was the head of the government.
                  2. +1
                    24 February 2020 17: 04
                    Who suggested? And what stopped it?
                2. -6
                  24 February 2020 13: 15
                  ".... if a diplomat says no, then this is not a diplomat."
                  1. +8
                    24 February 2020 13: 26
                    Quote: Victor N
                    ".... if a diplomat says no, then this is not a diplomat."

                    At one time in the "west" Gromyko was called - "Man - no"
                    And he was a very good diplomat.
                    1. 0
                      24 February 2020 17: 58
                      Quotes. This is a line from a classic joke. But in every joke only a fraction of the joke ...
                3. +10
                  24 February 2020 14: 51
                  Quote: carstorm 11
                  start to understand that politics is the art of the possible.

                  And so Putin gave Damansky to China, and Medvedev to Norway a piece of the sea?
                  If there weren’t these precedents, then the Kuril issue might have been treated exactly like you wrote here:
                  Quote: carstorm 11
                  it is beneficial for the state to have the opportunity to discuss various issues for as long as possible, carrying a bow like a cat in front of an opponent

                  But the precedents of squandering territories for "candy wrapper of investments and friendship of partners" have been going on since the time of the Tagged One and still does not stop. So why is it proposed to believe that the same people who gave up the territory of the country will suddenly close this very issue of the integrity of the borders once and for all, despite the OZ and Federal Law of the Russian Federation? lol
                  1. +2
                    25 February 2020 08: 40
                    Not the GDP gave the island. Officially they gave it in 1991. A truce in 1969 was signed by Kosygin.
                    with the transfer of the island to the Chinese. Sign signed, but the island of then did not pass to China.
                    1. +1
                      25 February 2020 10: 42
                      Quote: primaala
                      Not the GDP gave the island.

                      On October 15, 2004, in Beijing, Vladimir Putin put his signature on the “Supplemental Agreement on the Russian-Chinese State Border on its Eastern Part”.
                      But could he not put it, or the Russian Federation is on the course to surrender its positions, begun by Gorbachev?
                      1. +1
                        25 February 2020 19: 24
                        Quote: Sovetskiy
                        Quote: primaala
                        Not the GDP gave the island.

                        On October 15, 2004, in Beijing, Vladimir Putin put his signature on the “Supplemental Agreement on the Russian-Chinese State Border on its Eastern Part”.
                        But could he not put it, or the Russian Federation is on the course to surrender its positions, begun by Gorbachev?

                        =======
                        The events of 1969 are classified. The information that is available is superficial ...
                        Far from GDP, the island was ceded to China. A lot of things can be "found" (inconsistency) on the web.
                        And you never know what they write on the fence.
                      2. 0
                        25 February 2020 22: 59
                        Quote: primaala
                        The events of 1969 are classified

                        Where do you get the information, if the events of 1969 are classified, that the island was transferred to China far from GDP? The actual transfer took place just with him.
            2. 0
              24 February 2020 12: 19
              Quote: Sergey39
              And in the article on the map of Habomai Island, they already painted in Japanese color.

              I think for a reason.
              1. -1
                24 February 2020 12: 35
                I think those who put the article on a normal map for some reason were not needed. as well as hype and indignation) nothing personal only business)
                1. +7
                  24 February 2020 12: 44
                  Quote: carstorm 11
                  For some reason the card was not needed. as well as hype and indignation) nothing personal only business)

                  And I remind you that on Hitler's maps Leningrad was also called St. Petersburg, and what do we have now?
                  1. +2
                    24 February 2020 12: 46
                    how do you do this?) then someone squeezed the article and the author chose the card. where did it come from and why did he choose it here is the main question) there are a lot of normal maps, but the author chose this one) does this bother you?
                    1. +7
                      24 February 2020 13: 05
                      Quote: carstorm 11
                      there are a huge number of normal maps, but the author chose this one) does this bother you?

                      The fact that "journalists" love "fried" is an axiom, more hell is a hype. And confuses me, that's putting it mildly, a lot of things. Switching inhabitants from one topic to another, preferably external, is the basis of the manipulation of consciousness. Now all of us, as one, will stand up for the Kuril Islands, and at this very moment they will introduce some kind of tax or they will buy out the Savings Bank themselves, the stabilization fund can be cut between each other or the ruble can be lowered by 2 times. While we will deal with pressing matters, the Kurils will float away for joint use, here in 20-30 years you have a completely Kosovo version and so on in a circle.
                      1. +5
                        24 February 2020 13: 08
                        Well, at the moment I'm talking exclusively about this card and what moved the author to place it here. pure provocation.
                    2. +1
                      25 February 2020 11: 18
                      there are a huge number of normal maps, but the author chose this one) does this bother you?

                      And what should confuse here ??
                      I would choose another card - this question would go unnoticed ..
                      And since it just happened more clearly - what exactly is the conversation about ..
          2. +3
            24 February 2020 13: 18
            Sergey Lavrov, speaking at the Territory of Meanings forum in August 2019, made it possible to discuss the transfer of the Habomai and Shikotan islands ...
            Something up there, they completely lost fear ???

            The author of the article wrote a half-truth. And any half-truth is equal to a lie.
            Keywords of Lavrov about the islands were that Russia, as a successor to the USSR, is obliged to fulfill the obligations that the USSR assumed. It was within the framework of these obligations that the discussion was about the possible transfer of the two islands.
            At 15:40 listen ....
            1. +6
              24 February 2020 17: 17
              ... Russia, as a successor to the USSR, is obliged to fulfill the obligations that the USSR assumed.
              And why didn’t Lavrov say that the USSR withdrew those obligations? And there were reasons for that.
              "Half of the truth is a whole lie" (Hebrew proverb).
      2. +16
        24 February 2020 11: 49
        Quote: Stroporez
        Gorbach also talked a lot, and everyone knows what came of it.

        It would be better if his mouth was sewn up with harsh threads.
        1. +4
          24 February 2020 12: 48
          Quote: tihonmarine
          It would be better if his mouth was sewn up with harsh threads.

          The CIA recently presented him with whole volumes of cases. Let him have fun.
      3. +4
        24 February 2020 14: 30
        Quote: Stroporez
        Gorbach also talked a lot, and everyone knows what came of it.

        What is Gorbach? And under Gorbach, and under EBN-th, the belonging of the Kuriles to Russia "hung by a thread"! The fact that the Kuril Islands were not given can be described in one word ... LUCKY!
    2. +9
      24 February 2020 11: 53
      Quote: snifer
      so that ...

      So last year it was announced that the negotiations would be kept secret ... The question is, why hide what?
      1. +7
        24 February 2020 11: 59
        Perhaps today these negotiations would be worth stopping altogether. We do not have a peace treaty. And without a peace treaty, there’s nothing to talk about! hi
        1. +3
          24 February 2020 19: 20
          Quote: bessmertniy
          And without a peace treaty, there’s nothing to talk about!

          And you can live without it! hi
          No him, and to hell with him! Who is cold or hot from this?
      2. +2
        24 February 2020 12: 12
        the Japanese said this. Lavrov did not say that. It’s Yapis that this secrecy is needed.
      3. +2
        24 February 2020 12: 20
        Quote: Malyuta
        Quote: snifer
        so that ...

        So last year it was announced that the negotiations would be kept secret ... The question is, why hide what?

        Like what? Another betrayal of the country.
        1. +1
          24 February 2020 12: 37
          only the Japanese spoke about secrecy in front of their deputies. and all) why is this already a question for them.
    3. +8
      24 February 2020 12: 49
      Quote: snifer
      The king said negotiations are ongoing with partners, so ...

      Enough already "from empty to empty". Russian islands - period.
    4. +2
      25 February 2020 13: 02
      The donut hole will get the Japanese, not the islands.
      Why the hell should we bring them back?
      Russia lost the war to Japan? On the contrary - we won ...
      Russia desperately needs peace with Japan? ...
      Seventy-five years somehow lived without him and will continue to live!
      They want to make peace on their own terms?
      Let them declare war on Russia and storm Vladivostok, Moscow and St. Petersburg.
      If the flag of the Rising Sun rises above the Kremlin, you will have to consider the conditions of the samurai.
      But it seems to me that in case of war the scenario will be different ...
      After such a war, the young Japanese emperor will be appointed governor of the Japanese land ... laughing
  2. +13
    24 February 2020 11: 16
    but the Kuril question still remains a stumbling block between states.

    There is no stone here ... and there is nothing to discuss ... The Kuril Islands historically following the WWII are the territory of the USSR and Russia as the legal successor ... Japan, having signed the surrender act in 1945, automatically agrees with the WWII results ... that's all ... There is no point in discussing the Kuril issue.
    1. +12
      24 February 2020 11: 25
      Quote: The same Lech
      but the Kuril question still remains a stumbling block between states.

      There is no stone here. and there’s nothing to discuss ... The Kuril Islands historically following the WWII are the territory of the USSR and Russia as the successor ... Japan, having signed the surrender act in 1945, automatically agrees with the WWII results ... that's all ... discussing the Kuril issue does not make sense .

      Then explain why the Russian delegations are conducting some sort of secret negotiations? Why is this topic being discussed in the media? I can remind you how secretly Daman Island was given, how part of the Barents Sea was given to Norway, how part of Dagestan was transferred to Azerbaijan. So with the current rulers you can not be sure of anything.
      1. +13
        24 February 2020 11: 29
        Forgot to mention yet how Shevarnadze gave part of our fishing territories in the ocean ...

        They are bourgeois in Africa, bourgeois ... everywhere they seek instant benefits without thinking about the long-term consequences.
        The Russian government sometimes thinks in terms of a salesman ... only this can I explain the stupid things that they do without understanding the consequences of their decisions.
        1. +11
          24 February 2020 11: 41
          Quote: The same LYOKHA
          Forgot to mention yet how Shevarnadze gave part of our fishing territories in the ocean ...

          This Georgian devil-traitor is a separate topic for discussion, but his current followers behind a false patriotic screen scoop up bioresources from the Far East and artistically cut out the taiga, while populating the shores of Lake Baikal with the Chinese, selling them with fresh water.
          Quote: The same LYOKHA
          The Russian government sometimes thinks in terms of a salesman ... only this can I explain the stupid things that they do without understanding the consequences of their decisions.

          I would not shift the blame solely on the government, because they have a direct boss.
          1. +3
            24 February 2020 11: 43
            there is a direct boss.

            This figure is untouchable and unforgivable for his mistakes ... heh heh in the future he will also receive indulgence for a quiet life. smile
            Oh Russia -mother. what
          2. +5
            24 February 2020 13: 31
            The "Georgian devil-traitor" simply continued the policy of the "faithful Leninist" N. S. Khrushchev. If you recall history, then at least 50% of what is happening now appeared under N. S.
        2. +4
          24 February 2020 11: 41
          Quote: The same LYOKHA
          Forgot to mention yet how Shevarnadze gave part of our fishing territories in the ocean ...

          Medvedev gave away fish water areas ..
          1. +12
            24 February 2020 11: 59
            In 1990, Shevarnadze signed an agreement with the United States where he signed an agreement on the division of the Bering Sea shelf on conditions unfavorable for the USSR ... the bastard was sold to foreigners ... so that the land would be glassy.
        3. +9
          24 February 2020 12: 01
          Quote: The same LYOKHA
          Forgot to mention yet how Shevarnadze gave part of our fishing territories in the ocean ...
          The Soviet Union donated the United States 46,3 thousand square kilometers of its territory in the Bering Sea. More precisely, he gave it not to the USSR, but to specific officials - M. Gorbachev (President of the USSR) and Shevardnadze E.A. (USSR Foreign Minister), and formally - not the territory, but the water area (but this does not change the essence).
        4. +2
          24 February 2020 19: 21
          Quote: The same LYOKHA
          Shevarnadze gave


          In its past, also from the KGB
      2. +1
        24 February 2020 12: 06
        and who said about secret negotiations and what media write about this?)))
        1. +4
          24 February 2020 12: 13
          and who said about secret negotiations and what media write about this?)))

          Damansky Island was given to the Chinese without informing our society ... the same thing was done with the Norwegians ... so there is always vague suspicion that the Russian government is in secret negotiations with the Japanese behind our people ... in our time, trust in our government is too expensive costing the people.
          1. +1
            24 February 2020 12: 15
            the question was generally more than specific))))
    2. +1
      24 February 2020 11: 37
      By the way, why is the Habomai group of islands on the map painted in the color of the "gate"? Or have already passed, maybe I overslept?
      1. -1
        24 February 2020 11: 38
        Do not jinx ... maybe a check of public opinion comes with the help of such stuffing.
        1. +5
          24 February 2020 12: 38
          Or maybe the editors and authors should just find a normal map?), but if you put it in, you won’t be able to resent such stupidity really?))) this is called manipulation. the author poses a question and puts up a provocative sketch, and people here rush about with comments and are indignant. their number is growing ...)))
        2. -1
          24 February 2020 19: 24
          Quote: The same LYOKHA
          maybe a public opinion check


          Probably. If you scream “fire” all the time, then one day they will stop reacting to this scream ... and burn
  3. +3
    24 February 2020 11: 18
    Military potential comparable to Russian, Land of the Rising Sun does not possess

    If we talk about the Far Eastern region, it is very comparable and continues to increase since China is growing nearby.
    1. +2
      24 February 2020 13: 20
      I suppose, to equalize the chances in our direction, it is enough to use "Bears" from our Ukrainka. With the density of the population of Japan, samurai will not go for such a thing (to compare with pussy). hiAnd let their minds continue to excite the minds of their electorate with their Wishlist. This is already a centuries-old tradition.
  4. +7
    24 February 2020 11: 23
    then Japan’s hopes for the return of the South Kuril Islands will finally become illusory

    and so the question is closed! and the rest ... so yap Wishlist ....
    1. +8
      24 February 2020 13: 00
      Quote: Mouse
      then Japan’s hopes for the return of the South Kuril Islands will finally become illusory

      and so the question is closed! and the rest ... so yap Wishlist ....

      Hi hi
      Well, then we are not greedy No.

      1. +1
        24 February 2020 13: 44
        Vladimir Volfovich, the Khakamada japs ​​need no more than a dog's fifth leg. If she, something material offered them, and so. Not the first person freshness. There are younger ones in the houses of "tolerance"
  5. +6
    24 February 2020 11: 26
    It is strange to "close the issue" with amendments to the Constitution, while simultaneously demonstrating in practice that the text of the Constitution changes at any time at the request of the administration. One somehow contradicts the other.
    1. +8
      24 February 2020 11: 34
      Oh, those notorious "amendments" to the Constitution .... It is clear that under the pretext of "utility" they want to push through .... well, what "they" need ...
      Just one question they say will be:
      something like, "Are you against the amendments to the Constitution?"
      Evil languages ​​are already ironic over the choice of answers:
      "Yes, I do not mind"
      "No I do not mind"...
      1. 0
        24 February 2020 11: 40
        It is more interesting how these amendments will be introduced into the referendum in packages or one by one ... muhlezh and swindle by the organizers of this case are not ruled out.
        1. -2
          24 February 2020 11: 56
          Quote: The same LYOKHA
          It is more interesting how these amendments will be introduced to the referendum in packets or singly ...
          Yes, it’s already known.

          "Concerning package, or for each offer [vote] - there may be thousands of proposals. There will be hundreds of them, and if we listen to the whole country, there may be thousands, ”the head of state said. - Therefore, no matter how difficult it may be, in order to put this to the vote, you still need to refine everything in the complex and offer people a solution. "

          Putin made a special emphasis on the fact that if the proposals are "if not thousands, then hundreds," then "it will simply be technologically ... impossible."


          https://tass.ru/politika/7538285
          1. +1
            24 February 2020 12: 05
            Well then, it will be room for swindle people.
        2. +3
          24 February 2020 12: 03
          Quote: The same LYOKHA
          It is more interesting how these amendments will be introduced in referendum in packages or singly.

          As before they voted at the party meeting "We vote by list".
        3. 0
          24 February 2020 19: 26
          Quote: The same LYOKHA
          how will they submit to the referendum


          Voting! And this is a violation of the constitution!
      2. +7
        24 February 2020 11: 41
        Quote: Snail N9
        "Are you against the amendments to the Constitution?"
        Evil languages ​​are already ironic over the choice of answers:
        "Yes, I do not mind"
        "No I do not mind"...

        It would be better if they asked: "Do you want the return of the Stalinist Constitution? Yes? No?"
        1. +9
          24 February 2020 11: 49
          Quote: Egoza
          Quote: Snail N9
          "Are you against the amendments to the Constitution?"
          Evil languages ​​are already ironic over the choice of answers:
          "Yes, I do not mind"
          "No I do not mind"...

          It would be better if they asked: "Do you want the return of the Stalinist Constitution? Yes? No?"

          Yeah .. at the word Stalin they become very pale, but you want them to return the Constitution ..
          1. -5
            24 February 2020 12: 07
            Yes, no one becomes pale) you greatly confuse indifference and fear. very much)))
  6. +13
    24 February 2020 11: 29
    But the opinion of most of our fellow citizens, of course, is unequivocal: not an inch of land can be given to the Japaneseeven if they "pay in gold." Indeed, for the South Kuril Islands, including, our soldiers and officers died in battles with the Japanese army.

    The Kuril Islands are ours. Kaliningrad is ours. Crimea is ours. Point.
    1. +16
      24 February 2020 12: 00
      The results of World War II are not subject to revision! hi
    2. +3
      24 February 2020 13: 25
      And who does not like the Point, is Iskander, or Poplar!
  7. +15
    24 February 2020 11: 31
    Any talk about transferring the islands of Japan leads to questions about revising the outcome of the war. This is unacceptable and criminal!
    1. +12
      24 February 2020 11: 38
      Quote: AlexGa
      Any talk about transferring the islands of Japan leads to questions about revising the outcome of the war. This is unacceptable and criminal!

      It’s also not permissible to say that in addition to galoshes, nothing was produced in the USSR .. and it’s criminal to harass Stalin .. but this is all done .. so you can expect everything ..
  8. +13
    24 February 2020 11: 32
    I wonder who are these people in Russia who constantly raise this issue of surrendering the islands of Japan? And in general seriously discuss this at the state level? Descendants of those who congratulated the Japanese emperor on the defeat of Russia in Tsushima? Sometimes you think about it, maybe Joseph Vissarionovich was right about the enemies of the people?
  9. +13
    24 February 2020 11: 38
    I would also introduce a law on punishment for attempts to review certain provisions of already adopted laws. The Russian territory is not exchanged, is not for sale, and its status cannot be reviewed or canceled by anyone. Dot! For an attempt to revise the law, a sentence of imprisonment of at least 10 years minimum !!!!! Without any amnesties or transfer to UDO, a suspended sentence is also excluded!
  10. +6
    24 February 2020 11: 38
    Balalaika them and not the island !!!!
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  12. +6
    24 February 2020 11: 39
    The updated Constitution of Russia will force to close the Kuril issue

    But it opens up a bunch of new questions, in particular about the so-called. The State Council with the currently missing laws regulating its activities in the future. So let's accept the amendments to the Constitution now, and the laws on the State Council later. How, by whom and in whose favor these "laws" will be adopted, it is not even necessary to guess - and so everything is clear.
    And all these provisions on territories, etc. - ordinary smoke screen.
    Zy. By the way, the notorious Shuvalov (yes, the one that carries a dog on the plane at the exhibition and laughing at the small apartments of citizens), already
    came up with a proposal to enshrine in the main law the definition of entrepreneurship as an activity related to the formation of values. At the same time, entrepreneurs should be designated in the Constitution as the advanced class of people “creating a new Russia”
    1. +1
      24 February 2020 17: 36
      What an interesting interpretation of "entrepreneurship" by Count Shuvalov! In my understanding, it sounds like: "Every slave who performs any work owes the RF LLC, regardless of costs." Commercials,
      you will do your own repairs, but the organized criminal group is obliged to pay.
      And it should be: "Every free person has the right to the result of his labor. Point."
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  14. +6
    24 February 2020 11: 59
    The word does not hold, some statements about the pension reform are worth.
    1. -4
      24 February 2020 18: 14
      Stop whining, tired already. March to work. wink
  15. +12
    24 February 2020 12: 07
    It’s not for me to point out, but it would be better if at the legislative level to ban any Japanese investments in Russia. I have a relatively brief experience working with the Japanese as a contractor foreman.
    The customer was one of their firms with a 150-year history and multi-billion dollar (in securities) turnover.
    Most characteristic of the Japanese side:
    1. Incredible deceit.
    2. Meanness.
    3. Glaring, total incompetence.
    4. Greed.
    5. Hackwork. Quality is Chinese.
    In the countries of the Pacific, people are generally regarded as consumables.
    The fewer contacts with the Japanese, the better.
    They poured little into the war, so they show off. There is a separate claim to the Americans. The transfer of at least one stone sticking out of the water with this ... I can’t pick up the words, it’s a spit not only to the people of Russia, but also insulting to the Chinese, with their victims, they could safely demand from Japan some large island.
    1. +1
      24 February 2020 12: 59
      What's so really bad? And Yapov always seems to be put as an example
      1. +3
        24 February 2020 13: 59
        Quote: Dizel200
        What's so really bad? And Yapov always seems to be put as an example

        For me it was a break in the template. They probably know how to do something. At the twenty-four year old Nissan with a Toyota box.
        But
        Quote: kot28.ru
        Yes, and now Japanese electronics is a sign of quality

        Consumer electronics in the 80-90's characteristics and quality is not particularly impressive, although depending on what to compare.
    2. +1
      24 February 2020 13: 35
      Well xs about quality. Our AvtoVAZ still has not reached the quality of the right-hand drive Toyota, 90s consumer electronics from Japan, excellent quality (namely Japanese and not assembly Malaysia or Taiwan), and now Japanese electronics is a quality mark . They don’t have resources, they have nothing to sell, that's why they think how and what to do in order to live. Ours is the opposite. Oil and woods are still ... a lot, why to develop the same automotive industry? Import duties on pruloks will increase, sensors They’ll come up with Glonass, if only people would change to Lada ... Not guys, I won’t exchange my Toyota for a bug, not that coat. And the islands, which are rightfully the territory of Russia, do not prevent Russia from trading with Japan. Our obstacles are much more invincible bureaucracy.
  16. 0
    24 February 2020 12: 11
    Haboman "painted" in Japanese color is suggestive ...
  17. +8
    24 February 2020 12: 11
    If the amendment, which actor and director Vladimir Mashkov spoke at the meeting with the president, is adopted in the Constitution, the issue of South Kuril membership will be closed forever.

    We have such a president, Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin, who needs to review the constitution - that two bytes should be sent. He wanted to rule longer - he increased the presidency to 6 years, didn’t want someone to sit on the royal throne after him — he remodeled the constitution so that the president could not hold office for more than two terms (not in a row, as now, but in general).
    Another president will come - what, will he somehow relate to the constitution differently? It will be necessary for him - he will change, and we will vote, all as one, in a single rush ...
    1. 0
      24 February 2020 13: 02
      That is, do you want the existing Constitution, forcibly imposed by America and Western Europe, to remain in its original form?
      1. +8
        24 February 2020 13: 27
        Quote: Dizel200
        That is, do you want the existing Constitution, forcibly imposed by America and Western Europe, to remain in its original form?

        Vladislav, do you know how to read? :))) I actually write that the entry in the constitution will not solve the issue with the Kuril Islands. How did you manage to conclude from this that I supposedly agree with the current version of the Constitution of the Russian Federation?
      2. +3
        24 February 2020 19: 29
        Quote: Dizel200
        forcibly imposed by America and Western Europe on Russia


        Well, for 20 years she was so vomited? Patience is over or Wishlist appeared? laughing
    2. +1
      24 February 2020 13: 55
      Andrei, what do you suggest: shouting your hands off the "American constitution"? Current Constitution - 2/3 of the American Constitution written off
      1. +7
        24 February 2020 17: 22
        Quote: vladcub
        The current Constitution - 2/3 of the American Constitution deducted

        Svyatoslav, I have a lot to offer. Personally, I would be 100% satisfied with the situation when we created a normal constitution, taking the USSR constitution as a model, and then excluded the possibility of redrawing it at the discretion of the current president. And I would also like to see the return of the real, not staged, process of voting in elections and referenda. And pills for greed. And more !!!
        In general, dreaming is not harmful, only what does this have to do with the issue under discussion?
        1. +3
          25 February 2020 13: 24
          Andrei, you have a wonderful, but FANTASTIC dream: pills for greed will not appear soon.
          We had a BEAUTIFUL constitution, but it did not protect against betrayal, and betrayal did not begin in the Bialowieza Forest and not in 1985, when M. S came to power, but earlier
  18. +8
    24 February 2020 12: 13
    Such a map, where the Habomai archipelago is already painted in Japanese colors, is dangerous for the future of Russia! Now losing part of the Russian land over time, you can lose the whole country.
    1. -1
      24 February 2020 14: 12
      It’s not the current rulers who stole these lands, not to give them to them, but in general it’s necessary to shoot them
  19. +4
    24 February 2020 12: 26
    We are waiting for Japanese demonstrations in defense of the current Constitution of the Russian Federation.
    There will be a picture: Abe stands with a poster in front of the Kremlin: "Hands off the current constitution."
  20. DPN
    +3
    24 February 2020 12: 51
    She will not close anything, as the supreme will say, so be it. Just introduce a bunch of by-laws and will twist as you like.
  21. Ham
    0
    24 February 2020 12: 55
    Abe will have to do seppuku since he deceived the "spirit of his father"?
  22. BAI
    -1
    24 February 2020 13: 02
    If the Constitution of the Russian Federation contains a provision prohibiting the alienation of lands, Japan's hopes for the return of the South Kuril Islands will finally become illusory. The updated Constitution (if amendments are adopted and supported) will force to close the Kuril issue. Is it so?

    Not this way. Because Amur remains with a constantly changing fairway (the border with China passes along the fairway). Therefore, in any case, there will be a window for changing the border. The Kuril Islands and Japan will fit into this window at an opportunity.
  23. +3
    24 February 2020 13: 03
    The Japanese chance of returning the islands has been drained forever. There was a moment when Yeltsin was ready to give something back. but they wanted everything. present transfer of even one island so worsens the position of our fleet in the Pacific Ocean that it is absolutely unacceptable
  24. +2
    24 February 2020 13: 09
    Quote: Sergey39
    And in the article on the map of Habomai Island, they already painted in Japanese color.

    Also drew attention, it is better to choose pictures.
  25. 0
    24 February 2020 13: 31
    Well, if Abe swore the spirit of his father, then the matter is bad ... Abe will have to make a seppuk so as not to disgrace her father’s name and family wassat
  26. +4
    24 February 2020 13: 32
    ... in exchange for investment in the Russian economy.

    Yes, under Gorbachev they already talked about the lack of alternative to these mythical "investments" in "development." And before each election they sang about "investors at a low start."
    Yes, all this nonsense! No one except the state in Russia will create high-tech enterprises.
    There is no agreement with Japan - and wonderful!
    And "Mashkov's initiative" is a dummy. In the realities of the Russian Federation, changes to the Constitution are a common protocol issue for lawyers. No opposition - no problem for amendments.
  27. +1
    24 February 2020 13: 49
    Quote: carstorm 11
    Well, at the moment I'm talking exclusively about this card and what moved the author to place it here. pure provocation.

    And provocations are always mean
    1. +2
      25 February 2020 00: 53
      Colleagues, I read, I read ... That you all are attached to the Author! He simply shows with this card what the Japanese want and what our government should not do, namely: to allow the Japanese to color it legally.
  28. -3
    24 February 2020 14: 08
    Putin is good, these are boyars scum and traitors, over there an iPhone made a bastard of the pension rehform, he had to be kicked out with rags, that’s constantly worried about troubled water, he’s negotiating behind the tsar’s back
  29. +4
    24 February 2020 14: 24
    For calls for violation of the territorial integrity of Russia, it is necessary to deprive the citizenship of the Russian Federation and deport from the Russian Federation at 24 o’clock, with the confiscation of property ... I will consider the transfer of Kuril or part of Japan treason!
  30. +2
    24 February 2020 14: 59
    "Our line should be as follows: a peace treaty can be signed between the two countries only after resolving the issue of returning all four" northern islands "to Japan."
    Well, figs we can do with them without a peace treaty.
    1. 0
      26 February 2020 08: 05
      Well, let's decide - do not pass! All - decided .. And what else is there to sign? laughing
  31. +1
    24 February 2020 15: 27
    Has the second transmission of the Kuril Islands started this year?
    Usually left comrades transmit the Kuril Islands on the Internet from 6 to 10 times a year.
  32. +1
    24 February 2020 15: 37
    If the Constitution of the Russian Federation contains a provision prohibiting the alienation of lands, Japan's hopes for the return of the South Kuril Islands will finally become illusory.

    But will it not happen that after amendments to the Constitution, just for the Russian Federation, hopes for the return of illegally alienated territories of one large country after Belovezhie will finally become illusory? Is it not by these changes in the RF RF that they want to legislate, with the help of a popular expression, once again to consolidate in the Constitution the results of the Bialowieza agreements and the borders existing at the moment?
    1. +6
      24 February 2020 15: 43
      Quote: Sovetskiy
      If the Constitution of the Russian Federation contains a provision banning the alienation of lands, then Japan's hopes for the return of the South Kuril Islands will finally become illusory

      These hopes are already ghostly. There is a video with Lavrov, and everything is clearly explained in it.

      Quote: Sovetskiy
      But will it not happen that after changes to the Constitution, just for the Russian Federation, hopes for the return of illegally alienated territories of one large country after Belovezhie will finally become illusory?

      Returns to where? The USSR is gone, this is an objective reality.
      1. +2
        24 February 2020 16: 04
        Quote: SaltY
        Returns to where? The USSR is gone, this is an objective reality.

        How to say. The results of the Soviet-Polish war of 1919-1921 led to the fact that Belarus and Ukraine were divided between Poland and the republics that became part of the Soviet Union in 1922. The territory of Lithuania was divided between Poland and the independent Lithuanian state.
        In 1939, none of the countries of the former Entente was outraged, moreover, they considered the return of the USSR pre-war territories legal.
        What will happen if the Belovezhskaya Agreements of the Troika are officially recognized as illegal? lol
        1. +6
          24 February 2020 16: 17
          Quote: Sovetskiy
          What will happen if the Belovezhskaya Agreements of the Troika are officially recognized as illegal?

          1. Who exactly "recognizes"?
          2. Nothing will happen, neither the Ukrainians, nor even the Belarusians are particularly eager to join any "new unions". Will you drive them there with kicks, or do you have a magic pipe, a la Gammeln Pied Piper?
          1. 0
            24 February 2020 16: 23
            Quote: SaltY
            Nothing will happen, neither the Ukrainians, nor even the Belarusians are particularly eager to join any "new unions".

            Under the current regime, I agree that there will be nothing, this is confirmed by the Russian-Belarusian negotiations on Belarus entering the Russian Federation.
            1. +6
              24 February 2020 16: 30
              Quote: Sovetskiy
              With the current regime I agree, there will be nothing

              Here. Correctly. First you need to change the system - here, in Belarus and Ukraine. To do this, arrange a new revolution and defeat the interventionists, as it once was. And only then think about the USSR-2. So?
              1. +2
                24 February 2020 16: 43
                Quote: SaltY
                Quote: Sovetskiy
                With the current regime I agree, there will be nothing

                Here. Correctly. First you need to change the system - here, in Belarus and Ukraine. To do this, arrange a new revolution and defeat the interventionists, as it once was. And only then think about the USSR-2. So?

                And with us or somewhere else, was it somehow different? lol In the now "holy" monarchist times, did they not change the government by violent methods? Or maybe Yeltsin democratically shot the White House in 1993 and finally seized power? lol The USA generally wins new "friends" by changing governments and nothing, the "democracy" of the USA blooms and smells. laughing
                1. +3
                  24 February 2020 16: 48
                  Quote: Sovetskiy
                  And with us or somewhere else, was it somehow different?

                  It doesn’t matter what and where it was. It is important that you agree that without a revolution (inevitably accompanied by intervention) you can not even think about a new Union. It’s not entirely clear, however, your cheerful attitude towards all this, all of these lol и laughing
                  1. +2
                    24 February 2020 17: 00
                    Quote: SaltY
                    Quote: Sovetskiy
                    And with us or somewhere else, was it somehow different?

                    It doesn’t matter what and where it was. It is important that you agree that without a revolution (inevitably accompanied by intervention) you can not even think about a new Union. It’s not entirely clear, however, your cheerful attitude towards this lol laughing

                    And where did you see in my answers that you agree with the inevitable intervention, especially if there are nuclear forces on both sides in the current conditions? Yes, and the concept of the term revolution is not interpreted in a way that you unequivocally interpret.
                    Another question is that no one will voluntarily return the people's property "honestly squeezed" from the people, that's for sure. So who, then, will shed the first blood? Guessed - "revolutionaries" lol
                    1. +3
                      24 February 2020 17: 20
                      Clearly, there will be no intervention. Because you want it that way lol True, you forgot to ask world imperialism whether he wants (by chance) to take 1/7 of the land under control lol

                      Quote: Sovetskiy
                      the concept of the term revolution is interpreted not so you unequivocally interpret it

                      And how is it still interpreted? You already wrote about spilled blood.
                      1. 0
                        24 February 2020 17: 24
                        Quote: SaltY
                        And how is it still interpreted?

                        Well, I don’t propose Marx and Lenin; read at least Wikipedia.
                      2. +4
                        24 February 2020 17: 27
                        Colleague, this is a clean sink. Took to tell fairy tales, so tell them to the end. And about the "shed blood" in more detail, very interesting. And then like that, in the most interesting place - "go to Wikidepia" laughing
                      3. +1
                        24 February 2020 17: 41
                        belay Where is he, draining it?
                        Is it weak to search on your own or do you need to bring it on a "silver platter"?
                        Say "fairy tales". Well, if in the 90s the blood shed during the division of property is a fairy tale for you, congratulations, they easily slipped through. Maybe not yet born?
                      4. +4
                        24 February 2020 17: 45
                        Quote: Sovetskiy
                        Where is he, draining it?

                        Here it is:

                        Quote: Sovetskiy
                        Yes, and the concept of the term revolution is interpreted not so you unequivocally interpret it

                        Quote: SaltY
                        And how is it still interpreted?

                        Quote: Sovetskiy
                        at least read Wikipedia

                        I consider further discussion with you unnecessary. Until we meet again.
                      5. 0
                        24 February 2020 17: 46
                        Quote: SaltY
                        I consider further discussion with you unnecessary. Until we meet again.

                        Similarly wink Salut!
  33. +7
    24 February 2020 15: 43
    Why did the "general secretaries" and "presidents" stick to the Kuril Islands? The fact that it is impossible to "surrender" the Kuriles is clear even to Winnie-the-Pooh! Ukrainians "want" the Kuban, not to mention the Crimea ... get it ... Poland is itching ... Germany is itching .. China is "hinting" Georgia is "drying up" in Sochi ... It is worth allowing the slack, as the queue of "thirsty" will double!
  34. +3
    24 February 2020 15: 49
    The question will be closed when the Kuril Islands are covered with radars and bristled with military aircraft.
    I now believe that this can be achieved through the transfer of space topics to the Ministry of Defense. Here Plesetsk is a military spaceport, we launch a manned ship from there on the basis of RD-180 engines, which means that military radars, airfields, and helipads must be placed along the tundra’s border. Then we transfer this system to the east, where the flight paths of the ships to the ISS pass exactly above the Kuril ridge. A helicopter fleet will still be required for helicopters to collect spent steps.

    Well, then you can already walk on the planet)) Launch protons from the Brazilian cosmodrome. Accordingly, send helicopter carriers there. Launch reusable rockets from the Kuru cosmodrome and assemble the stages in the same way. Well, in the final, develop the "sea launch" Now it is one rocket with the RD-171, then modify it to launch a bundle of 3 missiles. Therefore 5 from the new platform. This is all from the Pacific Ocean.

    Here is a program of action from 5 locations with access to the operational space of the world's oceans.
    You cannot appease Japan with islands, they will still be "puppets" of the United States, because there is SpaceX and, in general, a forge of technologies, capital and other things.
    1. 0
      26 February 2020 08: 10
      The question is already closed without radars, and if they want to download, they will download with radars on our islands, but this is their problem ..
      1. 0
        28 February 2020 09: 20
        The Japanese intercepted the Su-34. Flight chart attached.
  35. +6
    24 February 2020 16: 23
    If you throw away the polites ... I am almost sure that this amendment will pass without options. Thus, at the legislative level, questions will be closed on the Crimean peninsula as a whole, and also on the Kuril Islands in particular. For our country. (Which cannot but please me, like the Crimean man).
    There is such a danger for me personally: who will steer the country further? And what will prevent him from making his amendments to the Constitution ?!
    And in the event of adverse changes, I personally will have to drop everything, and strategically evacuate to the mainland in old age. With the rest of the family. And who on the mainland needs me?
  36. +2
    24 February 2020 16: 53
    If amendments to the Constitution will be pushed all together, then you should vote against all this imitation of democracy. Everyone should go to vote. And choose your own path further. If for each amendment separately, then this is a more suitable option. soldier
  37. +3
    24 February 2020 18: 25
    What a weird article? The name is normal. The author began "for health", finished - "for peace." And the map was drawn by some kind of "designer boy" or "designer girl": the archipelago of the Small Kuril ridge (what is called the Habomai Islands) was "donated" to Japan - depicted as the territory of Japan!
  38. 0
    24 February 2020 18: 43
    And the smoking issue and pensions, well, can not be solved without changing the constitution
  39. +1
    24 February 2020 19: 12
    Sergey Lavrov, speaking at the Territory of Meanings forum in August 2019, made it possible to discuss the transfer of the Habomai and Shikotan islands

    Cool! So that’s why the Japanese were so happy! There is no smoke without fire!
    And since Lavrov only voices Putin, then the cards on the table - bargain Kuril desire was!
  40. +4
    24 February 2020 21: 28
    Negotiations on the Kuril Islands should not be at all. We lived without a peace treaty with the Yapis, and another hundred years we will live without it. Once and for all, tell the Japs that any negotiations on the Kuril ownership cease.
  41. 0
    25 February 2020 00: 36
    Updating the constitution may raise such questions that hundreds of wise men do not have time to answer them. Let's hope for the best. In any case, the plan to isolate yourself with a text from solving real problems and global issues is idealism. But some thirty years ago, all were materialists.
  42. zav
    -1
    25 February 2020 06: 40
    “Chur me,” conjures the government, hoping for a new constitution.
    In the morning, the authorities understand that it is impossible to give the Kuril Islands, but they no longer hope for themselves.
  43. +1
    25 February 2020 07: 54
    Habomai are shown by Japanese. Could the figure in the article be considered a call to violate the territorial integrity of Russia?
    1. 0
      25 February 2020 20: 19
      Talk about the Russian Federation. The integrity of Russia has long been violated, and calls for its restoration can be considered extremist.
  44. +1
    25 February 2020 15: 24
    Quote: Serge Siberian
    If amendments to the Constitution will be pushed all together, then you should vote against all this imitation of democracy. Everyone should go to vote. And choose your own path further. If for each amendment separately, then this is a more suitable option. soldier

    In this case, this "pleasure" will be long-lasting: everyone has their own opinion and amendments have already accumulated a cart and a cart
  45. 0
    26 February 2020 19: 08
    I am only interested in why the Green Island and other “Flat Islands” (islands: Polonsky, Shards, Demin, Yuri, Anuchin, Tanfilyev) on this map are designated as part of Japan? Affftor - Teach Geography fool
  46. 0
    27 February 2020 09: 15
    The updated Constitution of Russia is ETERNAL AND UNCONDITIONAL PUTIN.
  47. +1
    28 February 2020 10: 14
    In fact, who gave them the right to give these territories, watered by the blood of Soviet soldiers, no one gave the laurel the right to even talk about it. Japan is under the direct protectorate of the United States, which programs, when they themselves did not fulfill their promises to remove the Americans from their territory. Even if they remove it, we will only give it back when the Yankees come back. As they were false and corrupt, they remained. Not an inch of land and a point, enough to balamute the RUSSIAN PEOPLE with their tricks. It would be better to deal with the economy, social programs, and then only fairy tales that for some reason do not come true.
  48. 0
    28 February 2020 12: 17
    The author forgets that Japan is not a sovereign state. Hysteria about smoking is fueled by the states. And when an order is received from there to proceed to military action, Japan will execute it without hesitation; no one cares about economic ties. Ukraine is an example of this. If we assume that Japan will suddenly organize a landing with the full informational support of the "world community", is there anything we can say to them? With the fleet minus SSBN, we are not doing very well at the TF, unlike in Japan. Use nuclear weapons? What if states threaten to use it in response? Will there be enough opportunities to defeat Japan in a local conflict without using Yao? And if, for example, Ukraine, Poland, the Baltic states and Georgia simultaneously climb to the Crimea, Donbass and Abkhazia, Norway to Spitsbergen?

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