Live Russian rhombuses. The most famous tank of the Great War in the former USSR


Having barely appeared on the battlefields, the "rhombuses" changed the face of war


History of Rhombuses


Initially, the British wanted to create a tank by booking a tractor chassis and hanging a cannon on it. Then they would have got something like the German A7V or the French Saint-Chamonix. Such a monster would mix mud well, but pass in front of a vertical relief. And the last one on the fronts of the First World War was in bulk - trenches, funnels from shells and so on.

Then Ernest Swington, inventor tank, I decided to put caterpillars around the entire body. And so the famous diamond-shaped silhouette turned out - it simply was the most optimal from the point of view of overcoming steep slopes.

The name "tank" that the machine spawned appeared almost by accident. It was assumed that the novelty can, if not turn the tide of the war, then at least produce a strong tactical effect. Therefore, the product was kept in the strictest confidence. They “masked” them under large water tanks prepared for shipment to Russia. They wrote scribbles in Russian: "CAUTION PETROGRA b." And labeled as “tanks”, that is, as tanks.

Life inside the "rhombus" was a real hell - the temperature under 40 degrees, the smell of mechanisms and working engines, a disgusting view. But the new tool was quite effective, although it did not solve the problem of positional war overnight. Having appeared, the tank has forever changed the face of the war.

The adventures of the British in Russia


Tanks have been actively used throughout the war, starting with their debut on the Somme. From dozens of cars quickly moved to mass production. Rhombuses riveted thousands of pieces. They went into battle in the hundreds.

And, of course, they went beyond the First World War, as soon as it ended. Having fallen, for example, on the battlefields of the Civil War in Russia. Both in the composition of the interventionist forces and in the quality of the “rhombuses” transmitted by white. Across the vast expanses of Russian unrest rumbled tanks decorated with the inscriptions "United Russia", "For Holy Russia" and others.

And where there is war, there are trophies. The Germans in World War I produced so few tanks that in World War I they had more trophy “rhombuses” in the army than their A7Vs. Something similar happened with the Red Army - she actively mastered any technique that she managed to get her hands on. And British tanks received a second life in Soviet Russia.


Captured by the Red Mk.V "For Holy Russia"

"Rhombuses" were on the balance sheet of the Red Army until the 30s, when the rapid development of the Soviet tank industry made them already unnecessary. The tanks would have been given for re-melting, but that’s all. The fate of some trophies was decided by Voroshilov, to whom they reminded of the times of youth victories. Of them made monuments throughout the country.

Only 5 of the tanks sent to this business have survived to this day - all Mark V. models. One machine-gun "Female" and 4 "Hermaphrodite" armed with a gun and machine guns. The latter, by the way, are the only ones (for Mk.V) in the world - and all are in the vastness of the former USSR. Where are we going now.

Monument 1: Arkhangelsk


The “female” was sent to Arkhangelsk, where she reminds us of the British intervention. And also about the fact that our ancestors managed to overcome this very intervention - not only having driven the British out of their land, but also having captured trophies.

This, perhaps, is one of the most inconvenient for inspection and photographing machines - a “rhombus” protects the roof from the corrugated board from above, and glass walls attached to the welded frame protect on the sides. This, of course, helps from vandals, but at the same time makes the tank the least interesting from the point of view of ordinary visitors. But if you find yourself in Arkhangelsk, it’s quite possible to call in to admire the curiosity - not every city has it.


Arkhangelsk "rhombus"

Coordinates for the navigator to make it easier and faster to find: 64.544479, 40.517095.

Museum: Moscow Region


The first of the four "hermaphrodites" is located near the city of Kubinka, in the Patriot Park.

He moved there from the famous Central Museum of Armored Arms and Equipment, commonly known as the Cuban Tank Museum. And it definitely benefited - the conditions of inspection in the Patriot are incomparably better. The hangars of the old museum were famous for the dank cold in the winter, and in the summer they simply didn’t let the exhibits be properly examined - the tanks were tightly pointed side to side, resembling herrings in a barrel.


Mk.V from the Patriot

Another thing “Patriot” is that there are no global problems with light, you can get around from all sides, it’s always warm inside, unless you can climb in. In this sense, the creation of the Ministry of Defense is a definite plus - especially in comparison with the “old” museum.

Monument 2: Kharkov


Another hermaphrodite is located in Kharkov. The condition of the exhibit, let's say, is not the best. But there is an unconditional plus in the convenience and visibility of the inspection - the tank is in the open air, and nothing prevents it from getting around from all sides. There are no problems with light - due to the lack of a roof, as in Arkhangelsk.

True, because of the tension between Russia and Ukraine, customs problems may occur - at any moment another unpredictable political combination may begin, new laws may be adopted that will complicate your task. But if you still ended up in Kharkov, then inspect the "diamond".


Kharkov "rhombus"

Coordinates for the navigator: 49.992875, 36.231070

Monument 3: Lugansk


But where at the customs they let me go without any problems, it’s at the entrance to the Lugansk People’s Republic. You don’t even need a passport - you show the usual passport of the Russian Federation, you are issued, and now you are already in this young country.

Do not be afraid of enemy artillery - it has not massively fired on the central quarters for several years. And to the front line, where you can still hear the sounds of a rifle weapons or mortars, you won’t stop. At least by accident - first you have to overcome at least 3 roadblocks.

Supermarkets work in Lugansk, apartments are for rent, taverns operate - everywhere they accept rubles. The local population is not just friendly - it is no different from the population of any Russian city of the same size. Especially when compared with Kuban - here even the South Russian dialect is the same.


One of Lugansk Mk.V

Yes, and the tanks of the Great War there are as many as two - Lugansk "rhombuses" survived all the hardships of the 2009th century and survived to this day. Of course, once they looked rather ugly, but in XNUMX they were quite qualitatively restored at the local diesel locomotive plant. And look at them today is pretty nice. Moreover, there are tanks in the open air, access is unlimited by anyone - you can even carefully climb in and inspect the engines from above.

A memorial in memory of the Civil War is also attached to the Lugansk "rhombuses". In 2017, traces of shelling were still visible on it - human sculptures of the Red Army and granite slabs were hooked. So on the civil war of the XX century, its companion was superimposed, but already from the XXI.

If brought to Lugansk on business, then disdain as much as two whole "diamonds" is stupid. They can be found at coordinates 48.576948, 39.307068.
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  1. rocket757 24 February 2020 18: 14 New
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    An interesting story from this invention.
    Well, you can certainly say an invention for centuries!
    1. Catfish 24 February 2020 19: 03 New
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      Victor, hello, and with the past Holiday! drinks
      I don’t remember anyone, but I read that the whole idea with a combat tracked vehicle arose precisely in the British Admiralty and Sir Winston personally had a hand in all this. smile
      By the way, the author did not note that the name "tank" appeared due to the fact that the British launched a desu, supposedly self-propelled tanks designed to transport water to an expeditionary force in the Middle East. But the inscription in Russian, really “there is a great mystery”, it seems, in terms of desa, their right hand did not know what the left is doing. request
      1. Voltsky 24 February 2020 19: 12 New
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        they even in the classification traced the fact that the sailors were involved
      2. rocket757 24 February 2020 19: 16 New
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        With the past, Konstantin soldier
        A noticeable event, was supposed to grow a bunch of "tales \ myths"
        The British how to create something new, there were masters, and they could let the "fog" around, too!
        1. Range 24 February 2020 22: 49 New
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          So where did the nickname come from - the tank. Thanks! Now I know. Learning is never shy.
    2. YOUR 25 February 2020 02: 54 New
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      One of these tanks participated in the defense of Berlin in 1945. As a fixed firing point. The fact itself is there, but how long it lasted and really took part or just stood there and found the data.
      1. 75 Sergey 25 February 2020 20: 48 New
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        Which, the campaign, the Fryans were taken out of ... Smolensk!
        1. YOUR 26 February 2020 05: 02 New
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          So.
  2. Theodore 24 February 2020 18: 31 New
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    In Lugansk and Kharkov, they survived the Patriotic War?
    1. 210ox 24 February 2020 18: 55 New
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      In Smolensk stood as many as two in front of the Assumption Cathedral. They did not survive the occupation.
      1. tihonmarine 24 February 2020 20: 29 New
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        Quote: 210ox
        In Smolensk stood as many as two in front of the Assumption Cathedral. They did not survive the occupation.

        Old men remembered these tanks. The Nazis sent them to Germany, but there is no exact data.
        1. 75 Sergey 25 February 2020 20: 49 New
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          One in Berlin was spotted.
    2. UVB
      UVB 24 February 2020 21: 37 New
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      Quote: Theodore
      In Lugansk and Kharkov, they survived the Patriotic War?

      Here is a photo of Lugansk tanks during the occupation in WWII. In the first picture, the tank is on the left

      1. Astra wild 26 February 2020 18: 58 New
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        It is strange why the Germans were taken from Smolensk, but not from Lugansk?
    3. Range 24 February 2020 22: 50 New
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      Quote: Theodore
      In Lugansk and Kharkov, they survived the Patriotic War?

      It remains to survive the Bandera war.
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    5. militarist63 2 March 2020 03: 12 New
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      In Lugansk (Voroshilovgrad) the main thing they survived is Khrushchev! To begin with, Lugansk was Voroshilovgrad twice and now is the third time Lugansk! In 1935, Lugansk was renamed in honor of his eminent countryman (people's commissar and marshal) in Voroshilovgrad. As correctly stated in the article, the idea of ​​making monuments belonging to Klim Voroshilov from decommissioned MKV weapons. Only then they transferred 14 tanks to different cities !!! And only 5 survived to this day! They were, in addition to Vorshilovgrad, Kharkov and Arkhangelsk, and in Leningrad, and in Rostov-on-Don, and in Kiev, and in Smolensk ... Only 7 cities, each with two tanks ... In 1957 Voroshilov joined the anti-Khrushchev (called anti-Party) group, trying to remove Khrushchev from the post of 1st Secretary of the CPSU Central Committee. The offset did not work out then. Because Voroshilov repented, he was not expelled from the party (as the main instigators), and he was not removed from the posts held. But precisely because of the above event, in 1958 the historical name Lugansk was returned to the city of Voroshilovgrad. And the monuments of the revolution in the form of MkV, created on the idea of ​​Voroshilov, were ordered to be re-melted! However, when the dismantled Lugansk tanks were delivered to the Lugansk heat-generating plant, the workers buried them at the scrap storage site ... When Khrushchev was thrown off and Brezhnev came to power in 1964, the tanks were dug up, painted and installed behind the Museum of Local Lore. In 1970, Lugansk again became Voroshilovgrad. Then, in 1990, Humpbacked returned the name Lugansk to him again. And the tanks behind the museum stood until 2009. Then, in the summer of 2009, tanks were restored at the Luganskteplovoz plant and they returned to their historic place - to the Memorial to the Fighters of the Revolution.

      Tanks shortly after restoration, after several. months

    6. militarist63 2 March 2020 03: 21 New
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      The same Luhansk after restoration February 2010 ...



  3. knn54 24 February 2020 18: 35 New
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    The tank, standing on a pedestal, was received by the German assault gun crew on October 24, 1941 when Kharkov was captured as a combat unit of the Red Army. As a result - a direct hit from the Fritz.
    Old photo. Now stands on a pedestal to the left of the new building of the Historical Museum.
    1. Andrey NM 25 February 2020 11: 46 New
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      In the late 60s, we lived in Kharkov. My father took me to the museum, then he was called a local history specialist. I remember exactly that there were two tanks there. They were painted a dirty dark green color. And the children climbed them, it was not forbidden. Yes, and when I first saw them, there was some disappointment. My father told me that I would see huge English tanks, and how they came ... In short, the expectation and the fact did not coincide. Well, at that moment I had something to compare with. In Kharkov, my father studied at the academy, and before that we were wound around the garrisons, and I already saw enough of this "good" there.
      1. your1970 25 February 2020 18: 01 New
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        Quote: Andrew NM
        In short, expectation and fact did not match
        -of course..
        Quote: Andrew NM
        In Kharkov, my father studied at the academy,

        compare tanks 100 years ago and the T-72 ... then anyone you want the expectation will not match
      2. John22 7 May 2020 11: 29 New
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        Tanks in Lugansk in the 60s stood at the monument to the Fighters of the Revolution or at the old department store (next to the 4-story building, you can clearly see it in the German photo. It still stands). The surface relief had a descent towards the monument. Tanks stood on the ground and plunged noticeably into it from the earth flowing down from above. Were without weapons and engines in disrepair. I saw them like that in 1965. I stood next to them and they also did not make the impression of huge tanks in size. They were painted dark green.
  4. Blackmokona 24 February 2020 18: 55 New
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    Across the vast expanses of Russian unrest rumbled tanks decorated with the inscriptions "United Russia", "For Holy Russia" and others.

    The irony of fate is that now these slogans are back in fashion laughing
    1. sevryuk 24 February 2020 20: 45 New
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      The party of "United Russia" does not adhere to the ideology of United Russia! Otherwise, nothing would have been heard about the "customs" in the Kharkov and Lugansk regions.
      1. your1970 25 February 2020 18: 02 New
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        Quote: sevryuk
        The party of "United Russia" does not adhere to the ideology of United Russia! Otherwise, nothing would have been heard about the "customs" in the Kharkov and Lugansk regions.
        - I am ashamed to remind for the sake of justice - these areas GONE with other parties ...
      2. 75 Sergey 25 February 2020 20: 51 New
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        The party "Eat Russia" has other goals and objectives.
  5. Sasha_rulevoy 24 February 2020 19: 19 New
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    I always thought that the tank in Arkhangelsk was there and abandoned by the British in 1919. Even Pikul had in the novel “From the Dead End”, something like the British drove the tanks off the embankment to Sev.Dvina, saying that they didn’t have time to tank one, left, and he, as if, is still standing. It turns out that he is actually from under Kakhovka.

    With Kakhovsky bridgehead, I was always tormented by curiosity, what kind of white tanks did they use there? The British left White to help back in 1919. The Wrangel was armed by the French. Logically, they should have sent him French tanks? But for some reason, all five surviving monuments are all English. In the book of Akulov and Perov “1920. The Southern Front is liquidated” there is a photograph of “Renault” with unrolled tracks with red soldiers on it and the caption: “A tank captured at the Kakhovsky bridgehead”.
    1. Undecim 24 February 2020 19: 50 New
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      It turns out that he is actually from under Kakhovka.
      Why did you decide that he was from Kakhovka?
    2. beeper 24 February 2020 20: 05 New
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      hi The lying bearded man (in the photo to the right of the “For Holy Russia!” Tank captured by the Red Army men) is probably the “former” crew member (“armored divisions”, crew members of armored vehicles, usually were dressed in “English skin” from head to toe, and of this, probably, silk was also more subtle ...) ?!
      1. Sasha_rulevoy 25 February 2020 17: 41 New
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        Yeah, the photo is rare in its naturalism.
    3. hohol95 25 February 2020 10: 48 New
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      In terms of reliability, the books of Maxim Viktorovich Kolomiyets are more reliable!
  6. tank-master 24 February 2020 19: 43 New
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    MK-V tanks is a story.
    The tank located in Kharkov, to my great regret and shame, is being destroyed.
    There are several reasons ... from improper reconstruction to storage conditions.
    This year, these MK-V tanks will be 102 years old.
    And here’s the attitude of “ukro-intelligentsia” from the Historical Museum, who cherish the exhibition of the “revolution of hydrology” ... but they even hammer on the tank to the fullest, although in 2019 it was just the 100th anniversary of the creation of armored waxes that were created in Kharkov .
    Below is a photo of the destruction of the tank in Kharkov, shooting mid-December 2019.



    1. svp67 24 February 2020 20: 02 New
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      Quote: tank-master
      although in 2019 it was just the 100th anniversary of the creation of armored waxes that were created in Kharkov.

      I heard a lot of different theories, but this is the first time ... Can you tell?
      1. tank-master 24 February 2020 21: 21 New
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        Yes, I can confirm my words.
        "The first tank unit in the Red Army was the tank detachment formed on April 22, 1919 in Kharkov as part of the Special Armored Special Forces Division at the Council of People's Commissars of the Ukrainian SSR, nominally having four or five French Renault FT light tanks captured from the French forces by the 2nd Of the Zadniprovsky brigade of the 1st Zadniprovsk Ukrainian Soviet division (Ataman N. A. Grigoriev) near Odessa March 18-21, 1919. In fact, however, two tanks of this tank detachment were already at the end of April They were sent to Moscow on May 1919, where one of them took part in the parade on Red Square on May 1. The first and only reliable combat use of the two remaining tanks of the tank detachment of the Special Forces Armored Division was the battle in the Novomoskovsk region (now Dnepropetrovsk region) on June 26, 1919 , where the Reds were defeated and both tanks (like most of the division’s armored vehicles) were abandoned by crews and captured by the Allied forces. One of the Renaul FT tanks delivered to Moscow in June 1919 was included in the Sverdlov armored squad sent to the Southern Front, where in autumn 1919 all the armored squad equipment was abandoned during the retreat of the Red troops. "

        On the tank forces of the white movement:
        “100 years have passed for a significant event - the creation of the first specialized tank unit in the history of Russia. On April 14 (April 27, Art.) 1919, by order No. 674 of the Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces in the South of Russia (AFYUR), General A.I. Denikin in Yekaterinodar as part of the VSYUR the 1st tank division was formed as part of the command and four tank detachments, equipped with the English tanks Mk V and Mk A. The states of the tank division were approved on March 9 (22), 1919. "

        This material has been published on
        https://bmpd.livejournal.com/3627276.html
        1. svp67 25 February 2020 04: 03 New
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          Quote: tank-master
          As part of the Red Army

          I know this episode. I already forgot that they were formed in Kharkov ... Thank you hi
    2. Avior 25 February 2020 00: 53 New
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      I do not understand, is the metal bent and cracked or does the paint peel off? should there be at least 6 mm of armor?
      or is it just long bent metal?
      this?

      111 May 7, 2013 23:39:39 p.m.
      and the left front plate above the goose was never aligned

      https://www.057.ua/news/313432/na-plosad-konstitucii-vernulis-tanki-foto-video
      1. svp67 25 February 2020 04: 23 New
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        Quote: Avior
        Am there at least 6 mm of armor?

        Well, not everywhere .. there are also elements without armor
  7. svp67 24 February 2020 20: 01 New
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    Before the war, "rhombuses" were still in Smolensk
    1. tihonmarine 24 February 2020 20: 33 New
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      Quote: svp67
      Before the war, "rhombuses" were still in Smolensk

      Here is what AMF writes about it
      They came to Smolensk in 1938 by order of the USSR People's Commissar of Defense Klim Voroshilov, who decided to distribute experimental and captured samples dusting idle in warehouses in the cities of the country, to make monuments of them. There were 14 Riccardo tanks in total; they were handed over to Smolensk, Rostov-on-Don, Kharkov, Leningrad, Kirov, Voroshilovgrad and Arkhangelsk for use as historical monuments of the Civil War.
      1. svp67 25 February 2020 04: 25 New
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        Quote: tihonmarine
        They came to Smolensk in 1938 by order of the USSR people's commissar of defense

        German photo



        That is amazing. The Germans did not touch the mass of the destroyed and simply abandoned T-26 and BT, they remained standing until our return, and the Germans took these tanks and sent them for re-melting ...
  8. Olddetractor 24 February 2020 20: 29 New
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    Across the vast expanses of Russian unrest rumbled tanks decorated with the inscriptions "United Russia", "For Holy Russia" and others.

    The inscription on the tank was most likely "For United Russia", thanks for the article
  9. Gost2012 24 February 2020 20: 35 New
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    But why "female" and "hermaphrodite"?
    1. Alf
      Alf 24 February 2020 20: 55 New
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      Quote: Gost2012
      But why "female" and "hermaphrodite"?

      By females, the British classified tanks with only machine gun weapons.
      Males-mixed machine gun and cannon.
      Hermaphrodite is an invention of the author.
      1. Gost2012 24 February 2020 21: 00 New
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        Quote: Alf
        Quote: Gost2012
        But why "female" and "hermaphrodite"?

        By females, the British classified tanks with only machine gun weapons.
        Males-mixed machine gun-cannon ..


        Thanks, now it’s clear

        Hermaphrodite is an invention of the author.

        The impact of current trends laughing
        1. Alf
          Alf 24 February 2020 21: 01 New
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          Quote: Gost2012
          Thanks, now it’s clear

          Not at all, please contact us, we will always help and tell you.
          1. tank-master 24 February 2020 21: 45 New
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            To help and suggest, you need to have knowledge in this area, and not to spread your speculation.
        2. Disgust is caused by these primitively ugly expressions. Which ,, females ,,? What, hermophradites, is there a link to regulatory documents or memoirs? Who called tanks that? When did you call? One kind of idiot launched this verbal rubbish - and, “off and on, off”. When an adequate Russian person was interested in, gender, combat vehicle? The MkV has both a machine gun and a gun. Great cars that are made in a sensible country by excellent engineers and workers! But the wonderful fighters of the Red Army of wonderful Soviet Russia managed to defeat and capture all this beauty IN BATTLE. But don’t take it by hand, as the author writes. They seized the possession of the Land of the Soviets Russian-speaking traders-traitors in the 90s of the last century!
          And these tanks were needed not as a remembrance of Voroshilov’s glorious fighting youth, but as a means to educate the patriots of their homeland. ,, That’s what, your sons, overcame your, dads ,, ... learn sons! ,, The point was. And ,, sons ,, grew up, as a whole, sensible - they defeated both the nemchur and the Italians, Romanians who joined them, ... and the rest, gang-brotherhood. Lugansk tanks, by the way, saw the entry of Italian occupiers into the city. They saw a lot of things. And it would be great to close them in Arkhangelsk from the weather and vandals.
          The author can be advised to be more attentive to the words. There is no need for lightness in the text. Without you ,, jumpers ,, at all levels enough. More attention to the source, less -, flight of fantasy,
      2. tank-master 24 February 2020 21: 34 New
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        "Females classified British tanks with machine guns only" in sponsons
        Male cannon weapons in sponsons.
        Hermaphrodite is a tank with one cannon and one machine gun sponson.
        Everything was done in the field with the rearrangement of one sponson from "female" to "male" and vice versa .. getting a hermoforit tank, since as a result of the fighting, it became clear that the "females" could not successfully conduct the battle with only one machine gun.
    2. Ua3qhp 24 February 2020 20: 56 New
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      Machine gun - female,
      Artillery is a male.
      These are official names.
  10. Alf
    Alf 24 February 2020 20: 56 New
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    True, because of the tension between Russia and Ukraine, customs problems may occur - at any moment another unpredictable political combination may begin, new laws may be adopted that will complicate your task.

    Which export tank? laughing
  11. Alf
    Alf 24 February 2020 20: 59 New
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    Life inside the “rhombus” was a real hell - the temperature under 40 degrees, the smell of mechanisms and working engines,

    There were cases when, even at the height of the battle, the crews stopped the tanks and crawled out elementary to catch their breath and recover.
    By the way, the author forgot to add to the “hell” also the lack of a suspension, so it shook not childishly.
    1. tank-master 24 February 2020 21: 36 New
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      yeah ... maybe it’s easier to read 300 pages of literature anyway ... everything can be described there, or rather already described.
      1. Alf
        Alf 24 February 2020 21: 37 New
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        Quote: tank-master
        yeah ... maybe it’s easier to read 300 pages of literature anyway ... everything can be described there, or rather already described.

        What are you talking about?
        1. tank-master 24 February 2020 21: 47 New
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          This is about the fact that all the shortcomings and a description of the design are described in books .. their average volume is 300 pages, which describes the design and use of diamond-shaped tanks, as well as conclusions about their operation.
  12. tank-master 24 February 2020 21: 57 New
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    For lovers of "Rhombuses"
    A 3-D model that will soon be available on scale 35 and 10 in plastic.





    1. Paranoid50 24 February 2020 22: 54 New
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      Yeah, even with the interior ... Oh, on our 72nd scale, only the Master Box went through the “diamonds”, but almost everything was released - from MKI to MKV, in all their gender diversity.
  13. faterdom 24 February 2020 21: 59 New
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    This is perhaps one of the most inconvenient for inspection and photographing machines - a “rhombus” protects the roof from the corrugated board from the top, and glass walls attached to the connected frame are protected on the sides. This, of course, helps from vandals, but at the same time makes the tank the least interesting from the point of view of ordinary visitors. But if you find yourself in Arkhangelsk, it is quite possible to call in to admire the curiosity - not every city has it.

    Twenty years ago, this tank stood at the entrance to a children's park with carousels. And it was an object on which children climbed with pleasure.
    Then one businessman, a former policeman bought the building of the former Polyarny restaurant on one of the main streets of the city, made a shopping center out of it, and somehow took this tank, which he put on the square in front of the shopping center, to attract attention, of course. For several years the tank stood in the open air, then this pavilion was built here, which shelters from snow, rain and leaves, but interferes with photographing.
    Of course, getting into or into a tank is out of the question. But maybe that’s how it will last for 400-500 years longer ...
    Who knows how it is better?
    1. tank-master 24 February 2020 22: 12 New
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      It was not just put into the pavilion, but it was reconstructed at the factory, it is described in more detail in the book of the local historian Igor Gostev "Tank Mark V"
      1. faterdom 24 February 2020 22: 16 New
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        I know. And I know Igor Gostev personally.
        Therefore, my conclusion at the end is biconvex - that the tank is, perhaps, better. But the children who grew up "not climbing in the tank" - no. So any phenomenon has two sides.
        1. tank-master 24 February 2020 22: 23 New
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          As a father, I have always been opposed to having children climb a tank, especially inside, if a child dodges it, it will be a big problem, safety precautions are written in blood.
          Even working on assembling tanks and then in design bureaus, he was always very careful, but for children ... it’s better not to climb there, although I won’t hide their adrenaline when they climbed BTT.
          1. faterdom 24 February 2020 22: 28 New
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            I climbed in childhood. At the second place in the T-34. He tore two pants there, which was quite ... reproached by his parents. But bring me back there - of course I would climb again! This does not cause even a shadow of doubt, it was very important - to climb through all the seats of this tank, to feel what it is!
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              Andrei hi
              I climbed in childhood. At the second place in the T-34. He tore two pants there, which was quite ... reproached by his parents. But bring me back there - of course I would climb again! This does not cause even a shadow of doubt, it was very important - to climb through all the seats of this tank, to feel what it is!

              Well said! good Though not about "rhombuses", but complements your words.
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              Yes, I even climbed adults! At one of the military units in our region, the T-34-85 is in the public domain in front of the checkpoint. I was close at work and there was a reserve of free time while we were waiting for colleagues from an adjacent unit. Well, the two of us and my partner climbed into this tank through the lower hatch (the upper one is brewed, the lower one is missing - very much in our opinion). Inside, everything turned out to be removed, the breech by the gun was cut off, everything except the case was removed. But still interesting.
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                the bottom one is missing - very much in our opinion


                Is it possible for water to flow out in spring? I also climbed into the monument as a child through the lower hatch, but not through the one under the driver, but right under the tower. Maybe he wasn’t a hatch, I don’t know.
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  15. Thunderbolt 25 February 2020 00: 28 New
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    I was taught in a Soviet school that it was the First Imperialist one. It smoothly turned into a civil war. And, at least you crack. But the heroes of that war are for me a detachment of sailors of the Red Baltic. Chapaev. Tov. Parhomenko. The legendary first horse ... not for I have the name "Great War" There is "The First Imperialist". The heroes of your so-called .. and the intensely introduced Great War are pure kontra. Belyaki, ordinary tsarist generals. Brothers, excuse me ..... but I am not inspired by the belyaki. I have red shelves they’re calling .... I know how much blood was shed near Kronstadt and Var Ava, how the red divisions stormed the Crimea and established Soviet power in all the expanses of the RSFSR, in the republics ... I know everything well, read memoirs. I also visited the archives. I didn’t find the truth --- only the blood there in the mathematical reports of a clash of bayonets and sabers. .Russian sabers and Russian bayonets. And this is really scary. I read the summary as the regiment shot the prisoners, because the regiment went into the gap and the regiment needed to be freed from the burdensome rear. seven hundred Cossacks, officers and junkers .... a bullet and in a ditch. There is a ravine clearly attached to the area, and their bones are still lying there. And the whites did the same with the red ones. It's a pity ... Homeland ... how she suffered. Okay, only then .... the causes of the civil war are not exterminated. There, far beyond the river,
    Lights flashed
    In a clear sky, the dawn was dying.
    Hundred young fighters
    From Denikin’s troops
    I jumped into the fields for reconnaissance.
    But the Budenovites sang about the Budenovsky troops and they all chopped each other. Why .... For Russia? Is it really possible? it was so. But the most regrettable is that the roots of the feud are not destroyed. And it’s not the wind in the feather grass steppe, it is YOU and I. Two knights on good horses. Drafts are bald, in fact --- the siblings and children themselves of this beautiful feather grass named after Russia
    1. nznz 25 February 2020 12: 04 New
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      yes, brother .. I remember movies very well, so I never watch them twice. Especially like you called. We from Kronshtadt, when the sailors were thrown off a cliff, I can’t forget to my 67 .. heroes and ideas ruled the country then. Ideology was stronger than religion at times. Their convictions were taken out of this strong conviction that the civil war is Woe, huge, destroying and reclining in the Stone Age .. well, the qui about the quo? always look for whom it is profitable. Could do without fratricide, did not give. Therefore, most of all I am afraid of coups and revolutions, this is blood by the rivers .. and again everything will be according to the stroma. It is time to agree among themselves.
  16. Avior 25 February 2020 01: 01 New
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    regarding the Kharkov tank, along the way, I found the following
    At the moment, in addition to the Kharkov tank (type “hermaphrodite”), tanks of the Mk.V type have survived in Lugansk (two tanks of the type “hermaphrodite”), in Arkhangelsk (one tank of the type “female”) and in Kubinka (one tank of the type “ male").

    this is on wikipedia
    on the squares of Kharkov there were two Mark V tanks. These were tanks with a left and right gun position (right and left tanks of a tank platoon, respectively); one of them (not this one) was located on Sergeevskaya Square (now Proletarskaya Square) at least until 1943. It is also quite unique that the surviving Kharkov tank is not a “male” or “female” (“male” (English male) - with mixed cannon-machine gun weapons and “female” (English female) - with pure machine-gun weapons) and a hermaphrodite. There are only three such “hermaphrodite” tanks in the world - two in Lugansk and one in Kharkov. Several more tanks are located in Arkhangelsk (one female tank) and Kubinka (one male tank) and at the Imperial Museum in London.

    and here it is
    https://www.057.ua/news/819667/britanskij-gost-v-okkupirovannom-harkove-muzejnyj-eksponat-protiv-tretego-rejha
    there is an interesting detail where the dents appeared on the Kharkov tank above the caterpillar
    dents from the old battles remained on the tank’s caterpillar, and the Germans, when they captured the city in 1941, even mistook Mark v for the Red Army’s combat-ready vehicle and, not realizing that it was not a battle tank, but an artifact in front of them, they fired at it, damaging the side slightly.

    So the dents, it turns out, is also a story.
    The photo of the tank during the war is given, as I understand it.

    hi
    1. tank-master 25 February 2020 09: 17 New
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      In Kharkov, there is a “hermophrodite” MK-V with a gun in the left sponson, look carefully at the photo from Kharkov, and in the German photo with a gun in the right and unfortunately this tank was not preserved, it was re-melted. So the combat damage to the tank of the 2MB period, which stands on the square now in Kharkov, is speculation.
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    Mark tanks even took part in World War II. The Germans exported one tank from the USSR and demonstrated at the trophy exhibition in Berlin. Mb this (2nd photo).

  18. hohol95 25 February 2020 10: 53 New
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    Dear author! Do you have any intentions to write an article on the use of tanks in Soviet Russia as tractors? I came across information about the direction of tank detachments to help the villagers for plowing the fields. And the Renault Ft17 tank was considered the most suitable for this.
  19. hohol95 25 February 2020 10: 59 New
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    The full list is presented in the book of Maxim Kolomiyets
    "TANKS IN THE CIVIL WAR"
    ... However, only 11 tanks were actually installed. In Smolensk, two MK-Vs (one of them No. 9146 captured in Georgia in 1921) were placed in front of the Assumption Cathedral, which housed the anti-religious museum in the 1930s. In 1942, the Germans exported both tanks from Smolensk to Berlin, where they were installed in front of the Museum Tsehgauz as a monument to the victories of Germany in the First World War. There are photos of these vehicles taken after the Red Army captured Berlin in May 1945.
    In Kiev, one MK-V was installed in the square opposite the Art Museum, at the intersection of Museum Lane and Kirov Street (now Grushevsky). The second car (No. 9436) stood on Kontraktova Square. Data on their fate is different. According to some reports, both cars were taken out by the Germans, according to others - they were scrapped after the war.
    In Rostov-on-Don, two tanks were installed near the Rotunda building near the northern entrance to the city park. Both cars were scrapped in 1948.
    Two MK-V (No. 9344 and 9186, the former "Daring" of the 1st tank detachment of the Russian army), stationed in Voroshilovgrad (now Lugansk) have survived to this day. In 2007, both cars were restored, and are now installed on the street. Taras Shevchenko in the square named after M. Matusovsky.
    Only one MK-V No. 9303 was installed in Arkhangelsk. The car "survived" to our days, and in 2006-2010 it was restored at the Zvezdochka Machine-Building Plant in Severodvinsk (the author of the book was lucky to take part in the preparatory stage of the restoration). In 2011, the car was installed in the center of Arkhangelsk, on Troitsky Avenue. To protect against rainfall, the tank was placed in a special glass case. By the way, the Arkhangelsk "Ricardo" is the only surviving instance of this machine in the "female" version (only machine gun weapons).
    Two MK-Vs were also installed in Kharkov, one of which was located on Proletarskaya Square. This car has not survived to this day. The place where the second tank was located before the war is not known to the author. Now it is installed on the Constitution Square. In 2012-2013, the car was restored.
    Another instance of the MK-V tank, captured by the Red Army during the Civil War, is currently on display at the Military History Museum of Armored Arms and Equipment in Kubinka, Moscow Region. There is also one Renault FT. Thus, in the territory of the former USSR, six captured tanks from the Civil War were preserved.
    In addition, there are three copies of the Russian Renault tank, made in full size, installed on the territory of the Izhora plant (in St. Petersburg), the Krasnoye Sormovo plant (in Nizhny Novgorod) and the museum in Kubinka.
    A few years ago, there were four more Renault FTs that were trophies of the Red Army. Their story is quite interesting.
    At one time, in the capital of Afghanistan, Kabul, there was a military museum, near which, among other things, there were four Renault tanks. In 1923, these machines were donated by the Soviet government to the King of Afghanistan, Amanullah Khan. Moreover, all of them were trophies captured by the Red Army from the Poles in 1920. After the civil war broke out in the country, the museum fell into decay, and nobody cared about the exhibits. But after the introduction of the International Security Assistance Force, the Americans and the French became interested in the machines - the first took out two, and the second - one tank. In 2012, after lengthy negotiations with the Afghan government, another Renault went to Poland.
  20. VicktorVR 25 February 2020 11: 19 New
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    In the photo (except for the first with a trophy) there is not enough "gadget" - something to understand the scale of the device.
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    Here is another view of the Kharkov MK1. 2008 trip. Then the tank was in good condition. I don’t know if “uk ... activists” have come under the hot hand now. Those. local hunweibins.
  22. nznz 25 February 2020 11: 57 New
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    I saw this building in Arkhara in the winter of 1980. I stood for myself. I couldn’t take it off, I bought my personal first device from the first payday already in Belushka in Broom (Metelitsa, 240p with Olympic symbols Zenit TTL) It’s very good that you hacked it with an aquarium. I give photographers advice that you can easily remove it through the stela when 2 conditions are fulfilled. a polarizing filter - it removes glare from the glass - you’ll select the position of the rotating lens with respect to the fixed one and that’s all. Three-camera autofocus systems of many cameras work on ultrasonic rangefinders. They are powerless against glass. There are cameras with frequency contrast systems, this Eeklo bezrazlichno.Chtoby not zamorachivatsya- permanent AF preklyuchite in manual mode and field twist ring on the lens. And you will be sharp and good image.

    After 1980, there were many differences in Arkhara overflown to Novaya Zemlya, sometimes 7 days a meteo, but Talagi (azhport) was far from Arkhara for 40-60 minutes, and the military division announced an attack on our native milking and we had to run because we were to sit in Arkhar a week, it’s like in Mimino, for the last penny, rusks and tea without sugar. Especially when there are no naval guys, they usually understood their condition by bristles and invited them to eat or borrow money without ceremony. Oh youth, like people were in the USSR.
    1. faterdom 25 February 2020 16: 38 New
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      There is not glass - some kind of transparent plastic, which is clearly visible in the curved reflections. And transparency is not like glass - it will be worse. So the filter-polarik will not help much here - it’s good how not to take pictures “on the outside”.

      Either the case is "in the air" in the same Arkhangelsk in front of the House of Officers;
  23. Reptiloid 25 February 2020 13: 48 New
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    Thanks for the great article, Anton! The first time I saw such a tank in childhood, the film "Makar the Pathfinder", and was amazed. I thought --- really it's true???
    PySy. Interesting link: Tanks и tankers.
    1. hohol95 25 February 2020 15: 35 New
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      The film was like a tank of those years. But this is not reflected in the film itself. The decorators, as they could - did the tank. Blinded him from what was.
      1. Reptiloid 25 February 2020 16: 28 New
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        Well, it was very shallow lol I then ..... and then did not happen hi
        1. hohol95 25 February 2020 17: 09 New
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          And then I was not very big! In the movie "Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade," they created a tank even cooler. The rhombus case, but also with a rotating tower on the roof of the case!
          1. Reptiloid 25 February 2020 18: 13 New
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            Quote: hohol95
            And then I was not very big! In the movie "Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade," they created a tank even cooler. The rhombus case, but also with a rotating tower on the roof of the case!

            Maybe I missed that. request then a lot of new things appeared ...
      2. Narak-zempo 25 February 2020 18: 31 New
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        Quote: hohol95
        The film was like a tank of those years. But this is not reflected in the film itself. The decorators, as they could - did the tank. Blinded him from what was.

        This one is clearly inspired by the German A7V.
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          Maybe. Now we don’t even know. hi
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            Maybe. Now we don’t even know

            Yes, 100% did according to the picture. Such resemblance to the original is impossible purely by accident.
            It’s more difficult to make a rhombus for a movie, because it is problematic to visualize the tracks that cover the body. Therefore, we chose the one whose caterpillars are not visible, and for greater resemblance to the British, the wheelhouse was moved forward and the similarity of sponsons was stuck.
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              The Americans filming in 1940 the film "Comrade X" did not begin to engage in inventions of Soviet technology and drew Sickle and Hammer on the sides of their tanks. And they didn’t rack their brains over the NKVD staff uniform! So they do to this day.
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                The Americans filming in 1940 the film "Comrade X" did not begin to engage in inventions of Soviet technology and drew Sickle and Hammer on the sides of their tanks. And they didn’t rack their brains over the NKVD staff uniform! So they do to this day.

                A matter of budget. For the filming of “The Battle of England,” they did not spare the money to bring the HA-1112 from the Spanish Air Force (although it didn’t visually work out because they are quite different from the Bf-109E) and the real Spitfires with the Hurricanes, but we limited Yak- 12 in the role of La-5.
                Now there is no problem finding hardware in hardware, since computer graphics work wonders, but the work of specialists is also worth a lot.
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                  So the Spanish He-111 (CASA 2-III) was used in the same film!
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  24. vladcub 25 February 2020 15: 46 New
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    Timur, thanks for the story, touches that you give the coordinates, alas, in the "live" I will not see.
    It would be gorgeous to know the ts "biography" of at least one "rhombus": when he got to Russia, where did he visit with the white and the red?
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    Kharkov has long had a different landscape - in that place there is no tank, no monument (in the background). The area was radically reconstructed, the tank seemed to have been taken to 115 BTRZ for "pranking," but they returned it or a mock-up remake (rumors were very persistent) - I don’t know. As a child, he was climbed with his friends every vacation, then he stood in the courtyard of the Historical Museum ...
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    In the vast expanses of Russian unrest rumbled tanks decorated with the inscriptions "United Russia"

    So there she is from where the infection is creeping! ...
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    About Lugansk tanks were photographed when they were there at the military internship, from 1975-76. Only the city was called Voroshilovgrad, the division was on Kombrod.
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      In those years, they stood behind the new building of the Museum of Local Lore. Sorry I can not find the photo quickly.
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      Add a photo. So they looked
      under the USSR