Live Russian rhombuses. The most famous tank of the Great War in the former USSR

Having barely appeared on the battlefields, the "rhombuses" changed the face of war

History of Rhombuses

Initially, the British wanted to create a tank by booking a tractor chassis and hanging a cannon on it. Then they would have got something like the German A7V or the French Saint-Chamonix. Such a monster would mix mud well, but pass in front of a vertical relief. And the last one on the fronts of the First World War was in bulk - trenches, funnels from shells and so on.

Then Ernest Swington, inventor tank, I decided to put caterpillars around the entire body. And so the famous diamond-shaped silhouette turned out - it simply was the most optimal from the point of view of overcoming steep slopes.

The name "tank" that the machine spawned appeared almost by accident. It was assumed that the novelty can, if not turn the tide of the war, then at least produce a strong tactical effect. Therefore, the product was kept in the strictest confidence. They “masked” them under large water tanks prepared for shipment to Russia. They wrote scribbles in Russian: "CAUTION PETROGRA b." And labeled as “tanks”, that is, as tanks.

Life inside the "rhombus" was a real hell - the temperature under 40 degrees, the smell of mechanisms and working engines, a disgusting view. But the new tool was quite effective, although it did not solve the problem of positional war overnight. Having appeared, the tank has forever changed the face of the war.

The adventures of the British in Russia

Tanks have been actively used throughout the war, starting with their debut on the Somme. From dozens of cars quickly moved to mass production. Rhombuses riveted thousands of pieces. They went into battle in the hundreds.

And, of course, they went beyond the First World War, as soon as it ended. Having fallen, for example, on the battlefields of the Civil War in Russia. Both in the composition of the interventionist forces and in the quality of the “rhombuses” transmitted by white. Across the vast expanses of Russian unrest rumbled tanks decorated with the inscriptions "United Russia", "For Holy Russia" and others.

And where there is war, there are trophies. The Germans in World War I produced so few tanks that in World War I they had more trophy “rhombuses” in the army than their A7Vs. Something similar happened with the Red Army - she actively mastered any technique that she managed to get her hands on. And British tanks received a second life in Soviet Russia.

Captured by the Red Mk.V "For Holy Russia"

"Rhombuses" were on the balance sheet of the Red Army until the 30s, when the rapid development of the Soviet tank industry made them already unnecessary. The tanks would have been given for re-melting, but that’s all. The fate of some trophies was decided by Voroshilov, to whom they reminded of the times of youth victories. Of them made monuments throughout the country.

Only 5 of the tanks sent to this business have survived to this day - all Mark V. models. One machine-gun "Female" and 4 "Hermaphrodite" armed with a gun and machine guns. The latter, by the way, are the only ones (for Mk.V) in the world - and all are in the vastness of the former USSR. Where are we going now.

Monument 1: Arkhangelsk

The “female” was sent to Arkhangelsk, where she reminds us of the British intervention. And also about the fact that our ancestors managed to overcome this very intervention - not only having driven the British out of their land, but also having captured trophies.

This, perhaps, is one of the most inconvenient for inspection and photographing machines - a “rhombus” protects the roof from the corrugated board from above, and glass walls attached to the welded frame protect on the sides. This, of course, helps from vandals, but at the same time makes the tank the least interesting from the point of view of ordinary visitors. But if you find yourself in Arkhangelsk, it’s quite possible to call in to admire the curiosity - not every city has it.

Arkhangelsk "rhombus"

Coordinates for the navigator to make it easier and faster to find: 64.544479, 40.517095.

Museum: Moscow Region

The first of the four "hermaphrodites" is located near the city of Kubinka, in the Patriot Park.

He moved there from the famous Central Museum of Armored Arms and Equipment, commonly known as the Cuban Tank Museum. And it definitely benefited - the conditions of inspection in the Patriot are incomparably better. The hangars of the old museum were famous for the dank cold in the winter, and in the summer they simply didn’t let the exhibits be properly examined - the tanks were tightly pointed side to side, resembling herrings in a barrel.

Mk.V from the Patriot

Another thing “Patriot” is that there are no global problems with light, you can get around from all sides, it’s always warm inside, unless you can climb in. In this sense, the creation of the Ministry of Defense is a definite plus - especially in comparison with the “old” museum.

Monument 2: Kharkov

Another hermaphrodite is located in Kharkov. The condition of the exhibit, let's say, is not the best. But there is an unconditional plus in the convenience and visibility of the inspection - the tank is in the open air, and nothing prevents it from getting around from all sides. There are no problems with light - due to the lack of a roof, as in Arkhangelsk.

True, because of the tension between Russia and Ukraine, customs problems may occur - at any moment another unpredictable political combination may begin, new laws may be adopted that will complicate your task. But if you still ended up in Kharkov, then inspect the "diamond".

Kharkov "rhombus"

Coordinates for the navigator: 49.992875, 36.231070

Monument 3: Lugansk

But where at the customs they let me go without any problems, it’s at the entrance to the Lugansk People’s Republic. You don’t even need a passport - you show the usual passport of the Russian Federation, you are issued, and now you are already in this young country.

Do not be afraid of enemy artillery - it has not massively fired on the central quarters for several years. And to the front line, where you can still hear the sounds of a rifle weapons or mortars, you won’t stop. At least by accident - first you have to overcome at least 3 roadblocks.

Supermarkets work in Lugansk, apartments are for rent, taverns operate - everywhere they accept rubles. The local population is not just friendly - it is no different from the population of any Russian city of the same size. Especially when compared with Kuban - here even the South Russian dialect is the same.

One of Lugansk Mk.V

Yes, and the tanks of the Great War there are as many as two - Lugansk "rhombuses" survived all the hardships of the 2009th century and survived to this day. Of course, once they looked rather ugly, but in XNUMX they were quite qualitatively restored at the local diesel locomotive plant. And look at them today is pretty nice. Moreover, there are tanks in the open air, access is unlimited by anyone - you can even carefully climb in and inspect the engines from above.

A memorial in memory of the Civil War is also attached to the Lugansk "rhombuses". In 2017, traces of shelling were still visible on it - human sculptures of the Red Army and granite slabs were hooked. So on the civil war of the XX century, its companion was superimposed, but already from the XXI.

If brought to Lugansk on business, then disdain as much as two whole "diamonds" is stupid. They can be found at coordinates 48.576948, 39.307068.

Comments

[rocket757]

An interesting story from this invention.
Well, you can certainly say an invention for centuries!

[Catfish]

Victor, hello, and with the past Holiday!
I don’t remember anyone, but I read that the whole idea with a combat tracked vehicle arose precisely in the British Admiralty and Sir Winston personally had a hand in all this.
By the way, the author did not note that the name "tank" appeared due to the fact that the British let go of misinformation, supposedly these are self-propelled tanks intended for transporting water to the expeditionary force in the Middle East. But the inscription in Russian, indeed, "there is a great riddle", it seems, in terms of disinformation, their right hand did not know what the left was doing.

[Voltsky]

they even in the classification traced the fact that the sailors were involved

[rocket757]

With the past, Konstantin
Notable event, it should have acquired a bunch of "fairy tales / myths"
The British were masters of how to create something new, and to let the "fog" around, also knew how!

[Spektr]

So where did the nickname come from - the tank. Thanks! Now I know. Learning is never shy.

[YOUR]

One of these tanks participated in the defense of Berlin in 1945. As a fixed firing point. The fact itself is there, but how long it lasted and really took part or just stood there and found the data.

[75 Sergey]

Which, the campaign, the Fryans were taken out of ... Smolensk!

[YOUR]

So.

[Theodore]

In Lugansk and Kharkov, they survived the Patriotic War?

[210ox]

In Smolensk stood as many as two in front of the Assumption Cathedral. They did not survive the occupation.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: 210ox

In Smolensk stood as many as two in front of the Assumption Cathedral. They did not survive the occupation.

Old men remembered these tanks. The Nazis sent them to Germany, but there is no exact data.

[75 Sergey]

One in Berlin was spotted.

[UVB]

Quote: Theodore

In Lugansk and Kharkov, they survived the Patriotic War?

Here is a photo of Lugansk tanks during the occupation in WWII. In the first picture, the tank is on the left

[Astra wild]

It is strange why the Germans were taken from Smolensk, but not from Lugansk?

[Spektr]

Quote: Theodore

In Lugansk and Kharkov, they survived the Patriotic War?

It remains to survive the Bandera war.

[militarist63]

In Lugansk (Voroshilovgrad) the main thing they survived is Khrushchev! To begin with, Lugansk was Voroshilovgrad twice and now is the third time Lugansk! In 1935, Lugansk was renamed in honor of his eminent countryman (people's commissar and marshal) in Voroshilovgrad. As correctly stated in the article, the idea of ​​making monuments belonging to Klim Voroshilov from decommissioned MKV weapons. Only then they transferred 14 tanks to different cities !!! And only 5 survived to this day! They were, in addition to Vorshilovgrad, Kharkov and Arkhangelsk, and in Leningrad, and in Rostov-on-Don, and in Kiev, and in Smolensk ... Only 7 cities, each with two tanks ... In 1957 Voroshilov joined the anti-Khrushchev (called anti-Party) group, trying to remove Khrushchev from the post of 1st Secretary of the CPSU Central Committee. The offset did not work out then. Because Voroshilov repented, he was not expelled from the party (as the main instigators), and he was not removed from the posts held. But precisely because of the above event, in 1958 the historical name Lugansk was returned to the city of Voroshilovgrad. And the monuments of the revolution in the form of MkV, created on the idea of ​​Voroshilov, were ordered to be re-melted! However, when the dismantled Lugansk tanks were delivered to the Lugansk heat-generating plant, the workers buried them at the scrap storage site ... When Khrushchev was thrown off and Brezhnev came to power in 1964, the tanks were dug up, painted and installed behind the Museum of Local Lore. In 1970, Lugansk again became Voroshilovgrad. Then, in 1990, Humpbacked returned the name Lugansk to him again. And the tanks behind the museum stood until 2009. Then, in the summer of 2009, tanks were restored at the Luganskteplovoz plant and they returned to their historic place - to the Memorial to the Fighters of the Revolution.

Tanks shortly after restoration, after several. months

[militarist63]

The same Luhansk after restoration February 2010 ...

[knn54]

The tank, standing on a pedestal, was received by the German assault gun crew on October 24, 1941 when Kharkov was captured as a combat unit of the Red Army. As a result - a direct hit from the Fritz.
Old photo. Now stands on a pedestal to the left of the new building of the Historical Museum.

[Andrey NM]

At the end of the 60s, we lived in Kharkov. My father took me to the museum, then it was called local history. I remember exactly that there were two tanks. Were painted a dirty dark green. And the children climbed on them, it was not forbidden. Yes, and when I saw them for the first time, there was some kind of disappointment. My father told me that I would see huge British tanks, but when they arrived ... In short, expectation and fact did not coincide. Well, at that moment I had something to compare with. In Kharkov, my father studied at the academy, and before that we were running around the garrisons, and I had seen enough of this "good" there.

[your1970]

Quote: Andrey NM

In short, expectation and fact did not match

-of course..

Quote: Andrew NM

In Kharkov, my father studied at the academy,

compare tanks 100 years ago and the T-72 ... then anyone you want the expectation will not match

[John22]

Tanks in Lugansk in the 60s stood at the monument to the Fighters of the Revolution or at the old department store (next to the 4-story building, you can clearly see it in the German photo. It still stands). The surface relief had a descent towards the monument. Tanks stood on the ground and plunged noticeably into it from the earth flowing down from above. Were without weapons and engines in disrepair. I saw them like that in 1965. I stood next to them and they also did not make the impression of huge tanks in size. They were painted dark green.

[Blackmokona]

Across the vast expanses of Russian unrest rumbled tanks decorated with the inscriptions "United Russia", "For Holy Russia" and others.

The irony of fate is that now these slogans are back in fashion

[sevryuk]

Party "United Russia" does not adhere to the ideology of United Russia! Otherwise, nothing would have been heard about the "customs" in the Kharkov and Lugansk regions.

[your1970]

Quote: sevryuk

Party "United Russia" does not adhere to the ideology of United Russia! Otherwise, nothing would have been heard about the "customs" in the Kharkov and Lugansk regions.

- I am ashamed to remind for the sake of justice - these areas GONE with other parties ...

[75 Sergey]

The Eating Russia party has other goals and objectives.

[Sasha_rulevoy]

I always thought that the tank in Arkhangelsk was there and was abandoned by the British in 1919. Even Pikul had in his novel Out of the Dead End, something like the fact that the British drove tanks from the embankment to the North Dvina, they say, one tank did not have time, left, and it seems to be still standing. It turns out that he is actually from Kakhovka.

With the Kakhovsky bridgehead, I was always tormented by curiosity, what kind of tanks did White use there? The British left helping the whites back in 1919. Wrangel was armed by the French. Logically, they should have sent him French tanks? But for some reason all five surviving monuments are all English. In the book by Akulov and Perov "1920. The Southern Front Liquidated" there is a photograph of a Renault with uncoiled tracks with red soldiers on it and the caption: "Tank captured at the Kakhovsky bridgehead."

[Undecim]

It turns out that he is actually from under Kakhovka.
Why did you decide that he was from Kakhovka?

[beeper]

The lying bearded man (in the photo to the right of the tank "For Holy Russia!" Captured by the Red Army) is probably a "former" crew member ("armored divisions", crew members of armored vehicles, usually dressed in "English skin" from head to toe, and this, probably, was also a silk underwear ...) ?!

[Sasha_rulevoy]

Yeah, the photo is rare in its naturalism.

[hohol95]

In terms of reliability, the books of Maxim Viktorovich Kolomiyets are more reliable!

[tank-master]

MK-V tanks is a story.
The tank located in Kharkov, to my great regret and shame, is being destroyed.
There are several reasons ... from improper reconstruction to storage conditions.
This year, these MK-V tanks will be 102 years old.
And here is the attitude of the "intellectuals" from the Historical Museum, who cherish the exhibition of the "revolution of hydraulicity" ... but they even slaughter the tank in full, although in 2019 it was just the 100th anniversary of the creation of armored waxes, which were created in Kharkov ...
Below is a photo of the destruction of the tank in Kharkov, shooting mid-December 2019.

[svp67]

Quote: tank-master

although in 2019 it was just the 100th anniversary of the creation of armored waxes that were created in Kharkov.

I heard a lot of different theories, but this is the first time ... Can you tell?

[tank-master]

Yes, I can confirm my words.
"As part of the Red Army, the first tank unit was the tank detachment formed on April 22, 1919 in Kharkov as part of the Special Forces Armored Division under the Council of People's Commissars of the Ukrainian SSR, nominally having four or five French Renault FT light tanks captured from French troops by the forces of the 2nd Zadneprovskaya brigade of the 1st Zadneprovskaya Ukrainian Soviet division (ataman N.A.Grigoriev) near Odessa on March 18-21, 1919. In fact, however, two tanks of this tank detachment were already sent to Moscow at the end of April 1919, where one of them took part in the parade on Red Square on May 1. The first and only reliable combat use of the two remaining tanks of the tank detachment of the Special Forces Armored Division was the battle in the Novomoskovsk region (now Dnipropetrovsk region) on June 26, 1919, where the Reds were defeated and both tanks (as well as most of the division's armored vehicles) were abandoned by the crews and captured by the troops and VSYUR. One of the Renaul FT tanks delivered to Moscow in June 1919 was included in the Sverdlov armored detachment, sent to the Southern Front, where in the fall of 1919 all the vehicles of the armored detachment were abandoned during the retreat of the Red troops. "

On the tank forces of the white movement:
"The 100th anniversary of the significant event - the creation of the first specialized tank unit in the history of Russia. On April 14 (27, New Style), 1919, by order No. 674 of the Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces in the South of Russia (AFYR), General A.I.Denikin, in Yekaterinodar as part of the AFYR The 1st tank division was formed as part of the management and four tank detachments, equipped with British tanks Mk V and Mk A. The states of the tank division were approved on March 9 (22), 1919. "

This material has been published on
https://bmpd.livejournal.com/3627276.html

[svp67]

Quote: tank-master

As part of the Red Army

I know this episode. I already forgot that they were formed in Kharkov ... Thank you

[Avior]

I do not understand, is the metal bent and cracked or does the paint peel off? should there be at least 6 mm of armor?
or is it just long bent metal?
this?

111 May 7, 2013 23:39:39 p.m.
and the left front plate above the goose was never aligned

https://www.057.ua/news/313432/na-plosad-konstitucii-vernulis-tanki-foto-video

[svp67]

Quote: Avior

Am there at least 6 mm of armor?

Well, not everywhere .. there are also elements without armor

[svp67]

Before the war, "rhombuses" were still in Smolensk

[tihonmarine]

Quote: svp67

Before the war, "rhombuses" were still in Smolensk

Here is what AMF writes about it

They came to Smolensk in 1938 by order of the USSR People's Commissar of Defense Klim Voroshilov, who decided to distribute experimental and captured samples dusting idle in warehouses in the cities of the country, to make monuments of them. There were 14 Riccardo tanks in total; they were handed over to Smolensk, Rostov-on-Don, Kharkov, Leningrad, Kirov, Voroshilovgrad and Arkhangelsk for use as historical monuments of the Civil War.

[svp67]

Quote: tihonmarine

They came to Smolensk in 1938 by order of the USSR people's commissar of defense

German photo

That is amazing. The Germans did not touch the mass of the destroyed and simply abandoned T-26 and BT, they remained standing until our return, and the Germans took these tanks and sent them for re-melting ...

[Olddetractor]

Across the vast expanses of Russian unrest rumbled tanks decorated with the inscriptions "United Russia", "For Holy Russia" and others.

The inscription on the tank was most likely "For United Russia", thanks for the article

[gost2012]

But why "female" and "hermaphrodites"?

[Alf]

Quote: Gost2012

But why "female" and "hermaphrodites"?

By females, the British classified tanks with only machine gun weapons.
Males-mixed machine gun and cannon.
Hermaphrodite is an invention of the author.

[gost2012]

Quote: Alf

Quote: Gost2012

But why "female" and "hermaphrodites"?

By females, the British classified tanks with only machine gun weapons.
Males-mixed machine gun-cannon ..

Thanks, now it’s clear

Hermaphrodite is an invention of the author.

The impact of current trends

[Alf]

Quote: Gost2012

Thanks, now it’s clear

Not at all, please contact us, we will always help and tell you.

[tank-master]

To help and suggest, you need to have knowledge in this area, and not to spread your speculation.

[evgeniy.plotnikov.2019mail.ru]

Disgust is caused by these primitively ugly expressions. Which ,, females ,,? What, hermophradites, is there a link to regulatory documents or memoirs? Who called tanks that? When did you call? One kind of idiot launched this verbal rubbish - and, “off and on, off”. When an adequate Russian person was interested in, gender, combat vehicle? The MkV has both a machine gun and a gun. Great cars that are made in a sensible country by excellent engineers and workers！ But the wonderful fighters of the Red Army of wonderful Soviet Russia managed to defeat and capture all this beauty IN BATTLE. But don’t take it by hand, as the author writes. They seized the possession of the Land of the Soviets Russian-speaking traders-traitors in the 90s of the last century！
And these tanks were needed not as a remembrance of Voroshilov’s glorious fighting youth, but as a means to educate the patriots of their homeland. ,, That’s what, your sons, overcame your, dads ,, ... learn sons！ ,, The point was. And ,, sons ,, grew up, as a whole, sensible - they defeated both the nemchur and the Italians, Romanians who joined them, ... and the rest, gang-brotherhood. Lugansk tanks, by the way, saw the entry of Italian occupiers into the city. They saw a lot of things. And it would be great to close them in Arkhangelsk from the weather and vandals.
The author can be advised to be more attentive to the words. There is no need for lightness in the text. Without you ,, jumpers ,, at all levels enough. More attention to the source, less -, flight of fantasy,

[tank-master]

"The British classified the tanks with machine-gun armament as females" in sponsons
Male cannon weapons in sponsons.
Hermaphrodite is a tank with one cannon and one machine gun sponson.
Everything was done in the field, with the rearrangement of one sponson from "female" to "male" and vice versa .. getting a hermofordite tank, as the result of the battles, it became clear that the "females" could not successfully fight with machine guns alone.

[UA3QHP]

Machine gun - female,
Artillery is a male.
These are official names.

[Alf]

True, because of the tension between Russia and Ukraine, customs problems may occur - at any moment another unpredictable political combination may begin, new laws may be adopted that will complicate your task.

Which export tank?

[Alf]

Life inside the “rhombus” was a real hell - the temperature under 40 degrees, the smell of mechanisms and working engines,

There were cases when, even at the height of the battle, the crews stopped the tanks and crawled out elementary to catch their breath and recover.
By the way, the author forgot to add the absence of a suspension to "hell", so it was not childish.

[tank-master]

yeah ... maybe it’s easier to read 300 pages of literature anyway ... everything can be described there, or rather already described.

[Alf]

Quote: tank-master

yeah ... maybe it’s easier to read 300 pages of literature anyway ... everything can be described there, or rather already described.

What are you talking about?

[tank-master]

This is about the fact that all the shortcomings and a description of the design are described in books .. their average volume is 300 pages, which describes the design and use of diamond-shaped tanks, as well as conclusions about their operation.

[tank-master]

For lovers of "Rhombuses"
A 3-D model that will soon be available on scale 35 and 10 in plastic.

[Paranoid50]

Yeah, even with the interior ... Eh, in our 72nd scale only “Master-Box” went through the “rhombuses”, but practically everything was released - from MKI to MKV, in all their gender diversity.

[faterdom]

This is perhaps one of the most inconvenient for inspection and photographing machines - a “rhombus” protects the roof from the corrugated board from the top, and glass walls attached to the connected frame are protected on the sides. This, of course, helps from vandals, but at the same time makes the tank the least interesting from the point of view of ordinary visitors. But if you find yourself in Arkhangelsk, it is quite possible to call in to admire the curiosity - not every city has it.

Twenty years ago, this tank stood at the entrance to a children's park with carousels. And it was an object on which children climbed with pleasure.
Then one businessman, a former policeman bought the building of the former restaurant "Polyarny" on one of the central streets of the city, made a shopping center out of it, and somehow got his hands on this tank, which he put on the square in front of the shopping center, to attract attention, of course. For several years the tank stood in the open air, then this pavilion was built for it, which shelters from snow, rain and leaves, but interferes with photography.
Of course, getting into or into a tank is out of the question. But maybe that’s how it will last for 400-500 years longer ...
Who knows how it is better?

[tank-master]

It was not just put into the pavilion, but refurbishment was carried out at the plant, in more detail it is described in the book "Tank Mark V" by local historian Igor Gostev

[faterdom]

I know. And I know Igor Gostev personally.
Therefore, my conclusion at the end is biconvex - that the tank is, perhaps, better. And children who grew up "not climbing in a tank" - no. So any phenomenon has two sides.

[tank-master]

As a father, I have always been opposed to having children climb a tank, especially inside, if a child dodges it, it will be a big problem, safety precautions are written in blood.
Even working on assembling tanks and then in design bureaus, he was always very careful, but for children ... it’s better not to climb there, although I won’t hide their adrenaline when they climbed BTT.

[faterdom]

I climbed in childhood. At the second place in the T-34. He tore two pants there, which was quite ... reproached by his parents. But bring me back there - of course I would climb again! This does not cause even a shadow of doubt, it was very important - to climb through all the seats of this tank, to feel what it is!

[Svarog51]

Andrei

I climbed in childhood. At the second place in the T-34. He tore two pants there, which was quite ... reproached by his parents. But bring me back there - of course I would climb again! This does not cause even a shadow of doubt, it was very important - to climb through all the seats of this tank, to feel what it is!

Well said! Although not about "diamonds", but your words complements.

[Alex_59]

Yes, I even climbed adults! At one of the military units in our region, the T-34-85 is in the public domain in front of the checkpoint. I was close at work and there was a reserve of free time while we were waiting for colleagues from an adjacent unit. Well, the two of us and my partner climbed into this tank through the lower hatch (the upper one is brewed, the lower one is missing - very much in our opinion). Inside, everything turned out to be removed, the breech by the gun was cut off, everything except the case was removed. But still interesting.

[Sasha_rulevoy]

Quote: Alex_59

the bottom one is missing - very much in our opinion

Is it possible for water to flow out in spring? I also climbed into the monument as a child through the lower hatch, but not through the one under the driver, but right under the tower. Maybe he wasn’t a hatch, I don’t know.

[Thunderbolt]

I was taught in the Soviet school that it was the First Imperialist. It smoothly turned into a civil war. And now, even though you crack, for me the heroes of that war are a detachment of sailors of the Red Balt. Chapaev. Tov. Parkhomenko. The legendary first horse ... not for my names are "The Great War" There is "The First Imperialist". The heroes of your so-called .. and the intensively introduced Great War are pure counterparts, ordinary tsarist generals. Brothers, forgive me ... but I am not inspired by white men. I know what kind of blood was shed near Kronstadt and Warsaw, how the Red divisions stormed the Crimea and established Soviet Power in all the expanses of the RSFSR, in the republics ... I know everything well, I read memoirs. I also visited the archives. The truth is not found --- only blood there in the mathematical summaries of collisions of bayonets and sabers .. Russian sabers and Russian bayonets. And this is really scary. I read the summary as the regiment shot prisoners, because. the regiment went into the lead and the regiment needed to free itself from the burdening rear. seven hundred Cossacks, officers and cadets ... a bullet in the ditch. There is a ravine, clearly tied to the terrain, and their bones still lie there. And the white men did the same with the Reds. It's a pity ... the Motherland ... how she suffered. Well, only then ... the causes of the civil war are not destroyed. There, far beyond the river,
Lights flashed
In a clear sky, the dawn was dying.
Hundred young fighters
From Denikin’s troops
I jumped into the fields for reconnaissance.
But the Budenovites sang about the Budenovsky troops and they all chopped each other. Why .... For Russia? Is it really possible? it was so. But the most regrettable is that the roots of the feud are not destroyed. And it’s not the wind in the feather grass steppe, it is YOU and I. Two knights on good horses. Drafts are bald, in fact --- the siblings and children themselves of this beautiful feather grass named after Russia

[nznz]

yes, brother .. I remember movies very well, so I never watch them twice. Especially like you called. We from Kronshtadt, when the sailors were thrown off a cliff, I can’t forget to my 67 .. heroes and ideas ruled the country then. Ideology was stronger than religion at times. Their convictions were taken out of this strong conviction that the civil war is Woe, huge, destroying and reclining in the Stone Age .. well, the qui about the quo? always look for whom it is profitable. Could do without fratricide, did not give. Therefore, most of all I am afraid of coups and revolutions, this is blood by the rivers .. and again everything will be according to the stroma. It is time to agree among themselves.

[Avior]

regarding the Kharkov tank, along the way, I found the following

At the moment, in addition to the Kharkov tank (type “hermaphrodite”), tanks of the Mk.V type have survived in Lugansk (two tanks of the type “hermaphrodite”), in Arkhangelsk (one tank of the type “female”) and in Kubinka (one tank of the type “ male").

this is on wikipedia

on the squares of Kharkov there were two Mark V tanks. These were tanks with a left and right gun position (right and left tanks of a tank platoon, respectively); one of them (not this one) was located on Sergeevskaya Square (now Proletarskaya Square) at least until 1943. It is also quite unique that the surviving Kharkov tank is not a “male” or “female” (“male” (English male) - with mixed cannon-machine gun weapons and “female” (English female) - with pure machine-gun weapons) and a hermaphrodite. There are only three such “hermaphrodite” tanks in the world - two in Lugansk and one in Kharkov. Several more tanks are located in Arkhangelsk (one female tank) and Kubinka (one male tank) and at the Imperial Museum in London.

and here it is
https://www.057.ua/news/819667/britanskij-gost-v-okkupirovannom-harkove-muzejnyj-eksponat-protiv-tretego-rejha
there is an interesting detail where the dents appeared on the Kharkov tank above the caterpillar

dents from the old battles remained on the tank’s caterpillar, and the Germans, when they captured the city in 1941, even mistook Mark v for the Red Army’s combat-ready vehicle and, not realizing that it was not a battle tank, but an artifact in front of them, they fired at it, damaging the side slightly.

So the dents, it turns out, is also a story.
The photo of the tank during the war is given, as I understand it.

[tank-master]

In Kharkov there is an MK-V "hermofrodite" with a cannon in the left sponson, look carefully at the photo from Kharkov, and in the German photo with a cannon in the right, and unfortunately, this tank was not preserved, it was melted down. So the combat damage of the WW2 tank, which stands on the square now in Kharkov, is speculation.

[BAI]

Mark tanks even took part in World War II. The Germans exported one tank from the USSR and demonstrated at the trophy exhibition in Berlin. Mb this (2nd photo).

[hohol95]

Dear author! Do you have any intentions to write an article on the use of tanks in Soviet Russia as tractors? I came across information about the direction of tank detachments to help the villagers for plowing the fields. And the Renault Ft17 tank was considered the most suitable for this.

[hohol95]

The full list is presented in the book of Maxim Kolomiyets
"TANKS IN THE CIVIL WAR"

... However, only 11 tanks were actually installed. In Smolensk, two MK-Vs (one of them No. 9146 captured in Georgia in 1921) were placed in front of the Assumption Cathedral, which housed the anti-religious museum in the 1930s. In 1942, the Germans exported both tanks from Smolensk to Berlin, where they were installed in front of the Museum Tsehgauz as a monument to the victories of Germany in the First World War. There are photos of these vehicles taken after the Red Army captured Berlin in May 1945.
In Kiev, one MK-V was installed in the square opposite the Art Museum, at the intersection of Museum Lane and Kirov Street (now Grushevsky). The second car (No. 9436) stood on Kontraktova Square. Data on their fate is different. According to some reports, both cars were taken out by the Germans, according to others - they were scrapped after the war.
In Rostov-on-Don, two tanks were installed near the Rotunda building near the northern entrance to the city park. Both cars were scrapped in 1948.
Two MK-V (No. 9344 and 9186, the former "Daring" of the 1st tank detachment of the Russian army), stationed in Voroshilovgrad (now Lugansk) have survived to this day. In 2007, both cars were restored, and are now installed on the street. Taras Shevchenko in the square named after M. Matusovsky.
Only one MK-V No. 9303 was installed in Arkhangelsk. The car "survived" to our days, and in 2006-2010 it was restored at the Zvezdochka Machine-Building Plant in Severodvinsk (the author of the book was lucky to take part in the preparatory stage of the restoration). In 2011, the car was installed in the center of Arkhangelsk, on Troitsky Avenue. To protect against rainfall, the tank was placed in a special glass case. By the way, the Arkhangelsk "Ricardo" is the only surviving instance of this machine in the "female" version (only machine gun weapons).
Two MK-Vs were also installed in Kharkov, one of which was located on Proletarskaya Square. This car has not survived to this day. The place where the second tank was located before the war is not known to the author. Now it is installed on the Constitution Square. In 2012-2013, the car was restored.
Another instance of the MK-V tank, captured by the Red Army during the Civil War, is currently on display at the Military History Museum of Armored Arms and Equipment in Kubinka, Moscow Region. There is also one Renault FT. Thus, in the territory of the former USSR, six captured tanks from the Civil War were preserved.
In addition, there are three copies of the Russian Renault tank, made in full size, installed on the territory of the Izhora plant (in St. Petersburg), the Krasnoye Sormovo plant (in Nizhny Novgorod) and the museum in Kubinka.
A few years ago, there were four more Renault FTs that were trophies of the Red Army. Their story is quite interesting.
At one time, in the capital of Afghanistan, Kabul, there was a military museum, near which, among other things, there were four Renault tanks. In 1923, these machines were donated by the Soviet government to the King of Afghanistan, Amanullah Khan. Moreover, all of them were trophies captured by the Red Army from the Poles in 1920. After the civil war broke out in the country, the museum fell into decay, and nobody cared about the exhibits. But after the introduction of the International Security Assistance Force, the Americans and the French became interested in the machines - the first took out two, and the second - one tank. In 2012, after lengthy negotiations with the Afghan government, another Renault went to Poland.

[VicktorVR]

The photo (except for the first one with the trophy) lacks a "nut" - something to understand the scale of the device.

[xomaNN]

Here is another perspective of the Kharkiv Mk1. 2008 trip. Then the tank was in good condition. I don’t know if it came under the hot hand of "uk ... activists." Those. local hungweipings.

[nznz]

I saw this building in Arkhara in the winter of 1980. I stood for myself. I couldn’t take it off, I bought my personal first device from the first payday already in Belushka in Broom (Metelitsa, 240p with Olympic symbols Zenit TTL) It’s very good that you hacked it with an aquarium. I give photographers advice that you can easily remove it through the stela when 2 conditions are fulfilled. a polarizing filter - it removes glare from the glass - you’ll select the position of the rotating lens with respect to the fixed one and that’s all. Three-camera autofocus systems of many cameras work on ultrasonic rangefinders. They are powerless against glass. There are cameras with frequency contrast systems, this Eeklo bezrazlichno.Chtoby not zamorachivatsya- permanent AF preklyuchite in manual mode and field twist ring on the lens. And you will be sharp and good image.

After 1980, there were many differences in Arkhara overflown to Novaya Zemlya, sometimes 7 days a meteo, but Talagi (azhport) was far from Arkhara for 40-60 minutes, and the military division announced an attack on our native milking and we had to run because we were to sit in Arkhar a week, it’s like in Mimino, for the last penny, rusks and tea without sugar. Especially when there are no naval guys, they usually understood their condition by bristles and invited them to eat or borrow money without ceremony. Oh youth, like people were in the USSR.

[faterdom]

There is not glass - some kind of transparent plastic, which is clearly visible from the curved reflections. And its transparency is not like glass - it will be worse. So the polarizing filter will not help much here - it's good how not to photograph "in the wild".

Whether it is "in the air" in the same Arkhangelsk in front of the House of Officers;

[Reptiloid]

Thanks for the great article, Anton! The first time I saw such a tank in my childhood, the film "Makar the Pathfinder" ", and was amazed. I thought --- really it's true???
PySy. Interesting link: Tanks и tankers.

[hohol95]

The film was like a tank of those years. But this is not reflected in the film itself. The decorators, as they could - did the tank. Blinded him from what was.

[Reptiloid]

Well, it was very shallow I then ..... and then did not happen

[hohol95]

And then I was not very big! In the movie "Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade," they created a tank even better. A "rhombus" hull, but also with a rotating turret on the hull roof!

[Reptiloid]

Quote: hohol95

And then I was not very big! In the movie "Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade," they created a tank even better. A "rhombus" hull, but also with a rotating turret on the hull roof!

Maybe I missed that. then a lot of new things appeared ...

[Narak-zempo]

Quote: hohol95

The film was like a tank of those years. But this is not reflected in the film itself. The decorators, as they could - did the tank. Blinded him from what was.

This one is clearly inspired by the German A7V.

[hohol95]

Maybe. Now we don’t even know.

[Narak-zempo]

Quote: hohol95

Maybe. Now we don’t even know

Yes, 100% did according to the picture. Such resemblance to the original is impossible purely by accident.
It is more difficult to make the "diamond" for the movie, because it is problematic to visualize the believable tracks covering the body. Therefore, we chose the one with no caterpillars visible, well, for greater similarity with the British, the wheelhouse was moved forward and a kind of sponsons were attached.

[hohol95]

While filming the film "Comrade X" in 1940, the Americans did not engage in inventions of Soviet technology and drew a SICKLE and a HAMMER on the sides of their own tanks. And over the uniform of the NKVD officers, they did not really break their heads! So they do the same to this day.

[Narak-zempo]

Quote: hohol95

While filming the film "Comrade X" in 1940, the Americans did not engage in inventions of Soviet technology and drew a SICKLE and a HAMMER on the sides of their own tanks. And over the uniform of the NKVD officers, they did not really break their heads! So they do the same to this day.

Budget issue. For the filming of "Battle of England" they did not spare the money to attract the HA-1112 from the Spanish Air Force (although visually it turned out not very much, because they are quite different from the Bf-109E) and the real "Spitfires" with the "Hurricanes"; 12 as La-5.
Now there is no problem finding hardware in hardware, since computer graphics work wonders, but the work of specialists is also worth a lot.

[hohol95]

So the Spanish He-111 (CASA 2-III) was used in the same film!

[vladcub]

Timur, thanks for the story, touches that you are giving the coordinates, alas, I will not see it live.
It would be gorgeous to know the TS "biography" of at least one "diamond": when did you get to Russia, where did you visit the whites and the reds?

[Eug]

Kharkiv has a different landscape for a long time - there is neither a tank nor a monument in that place (in the background). The square was radically reconstructed, the tank was supposedly taken to 115 armored personnel carriers for "shamming", but they returned it or a replica (there were very persistent rumors) - I don't know. As a child, with friends, they climbed on him every vacation, then he stood in the courtyard of the Historical Museum ...

[Yuriy Malyshko]

In the vast expanses of Russian unrest rumbled tanks decorated with the inscriptions "United Russia"

So there she is from where the infection is creeping! ...

[serezhasoldatow]

About Lugansk tanks were photographed when they were there at the military internship, from 1975-76. Only the city was called Voroshilovgrad, the division was on Kombrod.

[John22]

In those years, they stood behind the new building of the Museum of Local Lore. Sorry I can not find the photo quickly.

[serezhasoldatow]

Add a photo. So they looked

under the USSR