Revelations of General Gromov: Nobody needed war in Afghanistan




A few days ago in our country and throughout the post-Soviet space, they recalled the next anniversary of the withdrawal of Soviet troops from Afghanistan. So far, the withdrawal of the Soviet contingent has caused heated debate. According to some - this is proof of defeat in that war, according to others - the only right decision at that time and a brilliantly conducted operation.

Hero of the Soviet Union, retired Colonel General Boris Gromov, shares his revelations on this subject. It was he who in 1989 led the operation to withdraw Soviet troops from Afghanistan. This includes the famous passage through the Salang Pass, which ended without loss.

Revelations of General Gromov are presented on the channel "Sweet +".

General Gromov:

I spent five and a half years in Afghanistan in three calls. And when a person sees what blood is, when a person bears a huge responsibility, and people who have been to the war, they always voted with two hands to make the war end sooner, any ... and even more so. Nobody needed her.

According to Boris Gromov, he was overwhelmed with emotions when the Soviet contingent left Afghanistan.

The full version of the revelations of Gromov is in the video of Alexander Sladkov:
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  1. SanSanych Gusev 22 February 2020 12: 08 New
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    People with two hands so that the war does not begin
    1. Sling cutter 22 February 2020 13: 06 New
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      Discussing now whether it was necessary to introduce or not, this is an empty scribble of paper. And who would be the same Gromov or Pasha-Mercedes if there weren’t that war, so-so average, battalions, regiments, divisional commanders in the peripheral military districts and no one would talk about them and did not remember already. That war is already a distant history, the history of that other great country. And as a great country should be, its army honorably fulfilled the order and its military duty.
      I don’t think that now we need to speculate on the topic of that war, all this will smell bad of anti-Soviet. For sure, I know only one thing, all that was, cannot be washed off with vodka or soap from our souls. soldier
  2. Lamata 22 February 2020 12: 16 New
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    Well, it was written that Ogarkov, Akhromeev was against, for Andropov Ustinov, Suslov. Brezhnev convinced the three.
  3. The leader of the Redskins 22 February 2020 12: 18 New
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    Here I completely agree with the general. Nobody needed that war. Although who am I, and who is he? ...
  4. Soviet Union 22 February 2020 12: 20 New
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    You think a lot with your back mind, General. No stupider than you people made a decision.
  5. Berg berg 22 February 2020 12: 34 New
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    America also did not need Afghanistan, but they’re fighting there for a day! And coffins also flow in America. So why is America Afghanistan? And why did the USSR not want America to be there!?
    1. tihonmarine 22 February 2020 13: 12 New
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      Quote: Berg Berg
      And why did the USSR not want America to be there!?

      It was right or wrong, but I think "My state is always right."
    2. max702 23 February 2020 22: 31 New
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      Quote: Berg Berg
      America also did not need Afghanistan, but they’re fighting there for a day!

      Well, how is it? They are fighting there with a very large profit .. Firstly, the damage from drug addiction in our country is 100 people a year, and about 000 billion dollars. The whole war in Afghanistan for 100 years cost 10 billion dollars for 34 dead .. for TEN years .. The second fine training ground where both weapons and tactics are being tested, besides this, troops are being trained in a real tough conflict (we have Syria ala) plus control of the region at a crucial point .. so everything is fine in Afghanistan in the USA, and coffins this trifle in exercises also perishes ..
      But the USSR did not want the USA there .. Well, it was possible by other methods, for example, like in Vietnam, which was located on the other side of the world, and here across the border, it was mono-partisan that it would have been necessary to carry coffins by ships, the aircraft would have failed. .
    3. Dzungar 26 February 2020 10: 27 New
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      Do not tell me how many times during the United States heroin production increased in Afghanistan and where it goes ...?
      1. Berg berg 27 February 2020 14: 34 New
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        According to official data from America, 80% of the Afghan drug goes to America itself and the main buyers there!
  6. onix757 22 February 2020 12: 40 New
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    The USSR was a great country. Status did not allow for unstable states along the perimeter of borders. For 9 years, soldiers in Afghanistan killed about 14 you from. servicemen of the SA. However, it is not customary to discuss that tens of thousands of people die every year in Russia in road crashes alone. This is not counting crime and suicide from hopeless. Before condemning the Union, it is necessary to at least stop the extinction / extermination of the indigenous population.
    1. DPN
      DPN 22 February 2020 21: 16 New
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      Well done, I answered correctly!
  7. Professor Preobrazhensky 22 February 2020 12: 48 New
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    After some time, Lieutenant General Alexander Chaiko, it may be said that the presence of a group of Russian troops in Syria was a mistake.
    1. Evgenijus 9 March 2020 14: 17 New
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      Maybe he will say his right. But is there a right for a state to conduct a military operation on the territory of another state? Even to eliminate the "objectionable" ruler? What is the difference between the USSR and the USA, the latter’s special forces conducting an operation in Pakistan to eliminate the "noble" bandit? By logic (if you have one) are both states criminal? Military operations outside the USSR may begin not at the direction of the Politburo or its individual members, but under the main law - the Constitution. The war in Afghanistan began with the violation of the Constitution of the USSR. The Politburo was above the law. So who is the criminal?
  8. knn54 22 February 2020 12: 52 New
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    And let's see what happened after the withdrawal of Soviet troops:
    Afghanistan, under the rule of the Taliban, produced twice as much opium than the rest of the world.
    Islamists infiltrated Chechnya, Central Asia and other regions.
    The Shah of Iran was overthrown, and relations with Iran at the West did not deteriorate until a certain period.
    And if you did not enter it, it would be much worse than 10 years earlier. The death toll from terrorism and drugs would be significantly greater than the death toll in Afghanistan.
    The army and special services of the DRA, the strongest in the region, were created. And if they had not abandoned Najibullah, perhaps there would have been no Islamic arc.
    By the way, the Dushmans movement arose in 1973, 6 years before the Soviet troops entered.
  9. demo 22 February 2020 12: 53 New
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    Outside of the attitude to the personality of General Gromov, one can say the following - it is not the general’s business to discuss government decisions, his business is to carry out the tasks with minimal losses.
    This is the first.
    Second.
    The war in Afghanistan must be quoted.
    For!
    What kind of war is this if the occupying aggressors invade schools and hospitals, roads and bridges, residential buildings and production buildings in the occupied territory? If residents begin to engage in social and political life?
    I ask - who is fighting like that?
    I answer - like someone Russian!

    If this is war, then what is the Great Patriotic War?

    The main thing is that our leadership tried to fight with one hand, and establish a peaceful life with the second.
    And no need to explain anything more.
    They would have acted like Genghis Khan - to cut out all who resisted, and to fill the wells with salt, they would remember one hundred years.
    But we can’t do that?
    So it was not necessary to climb.
    1. AU Ivanov. 22 February 2020 13: 00 New
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      That's it. They built it. At whose expense did they build? And for what? And they brought goods there, which were not to be found in Soviet shops during the day with fire. They were too kind. What for?
      1. demo 22 February 2020 13: 01 New
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        Conquerors, push us into a chill. hi
      2. Doctor 22 February 2020 13: 59 New
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        What for?

        It was assumed 16 republic of the USSR.
        1. Sergej1972 22 February 2020 19: 01 New
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          No, there have never been such plans.
        2. Lamata 22 February 2020 20: 48 New
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          Well, well, it’s such a republic in FIG, one line of Durand and the Pashtuns were worth what.
      3. fruit_cake 22 February 2020 15: 34 New
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        Well, now you have goods in stores, do you buy a lot of something worthwhile? or are you satisfied with the cheap things that break in a year?
        1. AU Ivanov. 22 February 2020 18: 02 New
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          At least now I have a good choice and no queues. No need to stand in the position of the supplicant. And I'm not rich enough to buy cheap things.
          1. fruit_cake 22 February 2020 22: 51 New
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            now it’s the queue at rush hour, but you can only buy shit from shit for your pennies, because you’ve been taught to buy shit for a high price
      4. Vitaly Tsymbal 22 February 2020 16: 15 New
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        So I wonder where you, dear Andrei, about the goods of the USSR in Afghanistan? Were you there at that time? Probably conducted marketing research on dukans and cantins? Then tell me how the dukan differs from cantina? Yes, they were good-natured, it was my subordinate soldiers, who were quietly feeding a 10-year-old boy - an orphan of a grazing Bai sheep ... Yes, they were kind when treating Afghans in our medical battalions and a lot more, but Stomach and Profit were not in our first place, like now...
        1. AU Ivanov. 22 February 2020 18: 05 New
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          I worked in aviation and saw how the cargoes were loaded onto Afghanistan. At the stores themselves, we have a kati ball, but we preferred to feed the hungry people of all countries, except ours.
          1. Vitaly Tsymbal 22 February 2020 18: 36 New
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            And I’m in Afghanistan, dear Andrei, from 82 to 84 I drove along the Afghan lanes in motorcars, stopped in villages, went into dukans and that I didn’t see “food from the USSR”. I mostly fed ourselves in Afghanistan, sometimes they distributed flour, gasoline-kerosene, and cereals for propaganda purposes ... I agree with you about the "ball in the shops of the USSR", but the paradox is that there was no hunger in the USSR, and the refrigerators were not empty most)))
    2. Doctor 22 February 2020 14: 17 New
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      What kind of war is this if the occupying aggressors invade schools and hospitals, roads and bridges, residential buildings and production buildings in the occupied territory?

      They planned to join the USSR.
      Ivan the Terrible first takes Kazan, then builds. The same with Astrakhan. The same Ermak with Siberia.
      Peter I Ladoga and Azov.
      Catherine II Caucasus and Crimea.
      Alexander I Georgia, Azerbaijan, parts of Poland, Ukraine, Moldova, Kazakhstan.
      Nicholas I Central Asia and much more.
      Etc.
      So empires grow. Of course, at first not all locals are happy ...
      1. Kronos 24 February 2020 02: 16 New
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        The USSR is not an Empire and did not set plans to capture everything and everything, unlike Rezunov's horror stories
    3. Kronos 24 February 2020 02: 14 New
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      Write to nonsense, there were 13 thousand dead in 10 years, and since there are losses, then there is war
  10. Sergey Averchenkov 22 February 2020 13: 40 New
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    I was only six months old - what the hell is this? Betrayal again? Yes, I'm tired of you all ...
  11. Alexga 22 February 2020 13: 49 New
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    The general is wrong. He cannot give an assessment to those who gave him the order, and assigned the title of Hero, all the more so after so many years.
  12. Sklendarka 22 February 2020 15: 27 New
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    Quote: Stroporez
    Discussing now whether it was necessary to introduce or not, this is an empty scribble of paper. And who would be the same Gromov or Pasha-Mercedes if there weren’t that war, so-so average, battalions, regiments, divisional commanders in the peripheral military districts and no one would talk about them and did not remember already. That war is already a distant history, the history of that other great country. And as a great country should be, its army honorably fulfilled the order and its military duty.
    I don’t think that now we need to speculate on the topic of that war, all this will smell bad of anti-Soviet. For sure, I know only one thing, all that was, cannot be washed off with vodka or soap from our souls. soldier

    Stroporez, it’s better not to say. It took a little less than half a century, just want to ask the Colonel General ?, and who prevented you from saying this in December / January 79/80. The same ...
    Stroporez-with the upcoming Day SA and the Navy !!!!
  13. Vitaly Tsymbal 22 February 2020 15: 30 New
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    I am often asked why were we in Afghanistan? I answer - 9 years and 2 months, the 100 thousandth military contingent risked their lives so that 220 million citizens of the USSR would live, work, give birth to children in the world. We left Afghanistan and the war came to our country - the USSR !!!! Well, let Gromov think that no one needed this war, I think the opposite ...
    1. rotkiv04 22 February 2020 19: 29 New
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      You are right, +100500
  14. fruit_cake 22 February 2020 15: 32 New
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    The USSR was definitely not needed in the war, because in Afghanistan, the Soviets had built a huge number of enterprises from the 60s, but the USA really needed this war and they organized it
  15. Vladimir61 22 February 2020 15: 58 New
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    It is indecent to condemn a retired general to say the least. A combat general, he expressed his opinion about the political background of that war. As an officer, he fulfilled his military duty, although if you remember, the oath of those years refers to the defense of the Motherland - "I am always ready, on the orders of the Soviet Government, to defend my Motherland - the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics and, as a warrior of the Armed Forces "I swear to defend her courageously, skillfully, with dignity and honor, not sparing my blood and life itself to achieve a complete victory over the enemies." In fact, there are many arguments, both for the need for input, and against. But the main mistake was that the Politburo decided to start helping the "fraternal people" by shuffling the "deck" of presidents, which subsequently led to the fact that we had to defend ourselves and actually start fighting, instead of the Afghans themselves.
    In Syria, we are guided by other principles and as reasonably as possible.
    1. rotkiv04 22 February 2020 19: 26 New
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      Fool he, albeit a military general
      1. mat-vey 23 February 2020 05: 21 New
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        Quote: rotkiv04
        Fool he, albeit a military general

        Governorship does not go in vain.
  16. Catfish 22 February 2020 16: 58 New
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    I believe that only those who went through it have the full right to judge this war. Therefore, I will not comment on Gromov.
    I only note that our General Staff (including the GRU) were categorically against the entry of troops into Afghanistan, but the elders from the Politburo insisted on their own.
    1. ccsr 22 February 2020 19: 33 New
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      Quote: Sea Cat
      I believe that only those who went through it have the full right to judge this war. Therefore, I will not comment on Gromov.

      Well, I haven’t been to Afghanistan, but it’s still not clear to me why the nuclear power should resolve some papus’s internal conflicts, no matter where they live? All the tales that the Americans or someone else might have appeared there are not worth a damn - our missiles flew to the USA along other paths, and our strategic nuclear forces did not care who was in power in Afghanistan. Gromov personally does not inspire respect from me, if only because he was quickly fused from the Ministry of Defense, and he was disgraced by the governor, but on the whole I agree with his opinion - this war (it doesn’t matter what they call it) we didn’t need at all.
  17. Dart2027 22 February 2020 17: 13 New
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    War was needed, but not so stupid. It was necessary to shift the main work to the locals, to provide them with everything necessary (weapons, ammunition, equipment, fuel), to act as advisers, but not to go into the whole army. In short, as they are now fighting in Syria. Is there any loss? Alas, there are no ones to compare with those.
    1. Kronos 24 February 2020 02: 20 New
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      Now the losses are classified which it’s really difficult to say, well, and the quality of the Afghans, except for special forces, was low, they ran as Syrians are now,
      1. Dart2027 24 February 2020 15: 18 New
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        Quote: Kronos
        Now the losses are classified as hard to say.
        Yeah. But for some reason, whenever our people die, messages about this appear almost immediately. And not so many of them there.
        Quote: Kronos
        Well, the quality of the Afghans except for special Naz was low
        And the opponents were the same Afghans.
  18. Ros 56 22 February 2020 17: 30 New
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    What is Comrade General talking about after more than forty years, what is the point of disturbing the memory of the fallen. Moreover, the Communist Party rested in a Bose.
  19. Disorder 22 February 2020 17: 31 New
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    And this one there ... What not to fart - just to remember about you.
  20. Sergej1972 22 February 2020 19: 07 New
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    Why did they kill Amin, who was a more ideological person and a great friend of the USSR in comparison with the Karmal put by us?
  21. rotkiv04 22 February 2020 19: 24 New
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    Instead of his arguments in the style of “it’s good to be smart like my Sarah - then”, let him better tell how his son remained to serve in the General Staff of the Ukrainian Nazis
    1. Vladimir61 22 February 2020 22: 20 New
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      Quote: rotkiv04
      Instead of his arguments in the style of “it’s good to be smart like my Sarah - then”, let him better tell how his son remained to serve in the General Staff of the Ukrainian Nazis

      Do not speak, if it is still small or the memory is short. Gromov began his service in Ukraine, - Kiev Suvorov, combined arms. He served in Ivano-Frankivsk, from where he left for Afghanistan. In 1985, his wife, along with the commander of the Carpathian Military District and others, died in a plane crash in the Lviv region. There was a son who began the service as his father. In 1990, Gromov and the widow of the deceased Krapivin got married. The son finished the service long before the Maidan.
      I want to remind you that before the Maidan, Ukraine was part of the CIS, despite the Orange Revolution, was considered a fraternal state. many officers studied at our schools and academies.
      1. rotkiv04 24 February 2020 16: 03 New
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        Brother, you better keep quiet about your academies in ukrozhopiya
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      ANB 23 February 2020 00: 09 New
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      Gromov, let him first report on the results of his tenure as governor of the Moscow Region. And then they are still raking. And here he is personally taxied and made decisions.
  22. nikvic46 23 February 2020 07: 01 New
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    The deployment of our troops is, after all, the result of a wrong policy towards Afghanistan. It was impossible to maintain socialist sentiments in a country that was on an ancient feudal level. We had friendly relations with the monarchy of this country. USSR is my homeland. But a very serious mistake was made here.
  23. Aleks2000 23 February 2020 20: 43 New
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    The devil knows, is needed / not needed.

    But Gromov is more associated with EDROM, the Minister of Finance Kuznetsov, other prominent officials of his circle, the Khimki forest and the pre-built road .... scandals with markets and district administrations ...
  24. PVM
    PVM 24 February 2020 11: 12 New
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    There was no military need for an invasion of Afghanistan.
    American troops stood around the world. Well, one more could be. But this is a horror story.
    Strengthening our group of forces on the southern borders would cost several times less than the occupation of Afghanistan with terrible consequences.
    The USSR led a warrior to exterminate the Afghan people. One million Afghans perished.
    With the final withdrawal of our troops, brutal bombings of Afghanistan were carried out.
    There was no military need for bombing. For some reason, the USSR was not convicted of war crimes in Afghanistan.
    We also need to recall the mediocre, stupidly organized operation to seize Amin’s palace.
    All the mediocrity of the highest military command manifested itself here. Three GRU special forces, airborne forces and explosives were ordered to take Amin’s palace without coordinating their actions. As a result, they nearly shot each other.
    Understood when the Russian mat was heard from everyone. There was no need for this operation either. The Afghan war in the media was filed from the propaganda positions of that and our time.
    Basis: to shut up inconvenient information and to fool the people with heroism and patriotism.
    1. Dart2027 24 February 2020 15: 20 New
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      Quote: FDA
      We ordered the special forces of the GRU, airborne forces and explosives to take Amin’s palace without coordinating their actions. As a result, they nearly shot each other.

      Will the source be?
  25. Selevc 24 February 2020 11: 29 New
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    Let General Gromov honestly answer one main question for himself - "Why did the USSR, after it had organized partisan hell for the United States in Vietnam, itself substituted for the Yankees in Afghanistan ???" ... I still do not know a clear answer - maybe Gromov knows ???

    The USSR was drawn into the conflict in Afghanistan by various cunning international intrigues - and the USSR had no, not the slightest strategic reason to invade Afghanistan !!! This war is nothing more than a setup in a big geopolitical game !!! (let ordinary soldiers and officers forgive me - they unfortunately are only pawns on the great fields of international geopolitical battles !!!.) ...
  26. Berg berg 25 February 2020 15: 41 New
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    Then let the general say, why in this case, the Americans are now in Afghanistan and are not going to leave there!? Why do they take hundreds of American coffins from there, but continue to cling to it, so all the same is needed!?
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    If no one needed the war, it would not have begun at all ...
  28. iouris 1 March 2020 01: 06 New
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    This is not a real general. A true general needs war.
  29. Yury Siritsky April 19 2020 11: 36 New
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    And why he just opened up.