In Hong Kong: the coronavirus for authoritarian Beijing will be the same as the Chernobyl accident for the USSR

Opposition representatives in Hong Kong voiced their views on the situation with coronavirus in China. Notes began to appear on the network that the information wave around the coronavirus, which in the PRC had infected about 75 thousand people for more than a month, also has a “political connotation”.

In particular, it was stated that the unprecedented security measures undertaken by the Chinese government, the ban on mass events, the use of quarantine zones, where law enforcement officers work, actually reduced to zero Hong Kong protests.

Recall that Hong Kong has become a center of protest, where opposition forces, which Beijing suspected of being fueled by foreign funds, staged large-scale actions against the central authorities of China. One of the demands put forward by opposition activists was: Beijing must comply with international law and respect the rights and freedoms of citizens who cannot agree with the policies of the CCP (Chinese Communist Party).

Now in Hong Kong, they say that "the authorities took advantage of the coronavirus epidemic to quench protests."

However, other points of view are also expressed in Hong Kong. Thus, Wang Xiangwei, an analyst at South China Morning Post, writes that the coronavirus COVID-19 was "an alarming call for authoritarian Beijing." The author notes the following: materials appeared in the press that the coronavirus for communist China would be the same as the accident at the Chernobyl nuclear power plant (Chernobyl NPP) became for the Soviet Union, when huge resources were withdrawn from the country's economy to eliminate the consequences of the disaster. Then it hit both the Soviet economy and the political system as a whole, sowing distrust among the people.

Wang Xianwei believes that this kind of judgment is somewhat exaggerated, but nevertheless notes that the coronavirus can really strike at the ruling elites of China.

From the material:

Over the past three weeks, the Chinese leadership’s efforts to mobilize national resources to fight the disease, including localization, which has covered most of the country and several hundred million people, have begun to produce tangible results. But they also involve enormous costs for the economy, as well as the authority and legitimacy of the ruling Communist Party at home and abroad.

The author notes that in China, lessons should be learned from what is associated with the coronavirus epidemic.

Comments

[Victor_B]

Kreakly in any government actions will find infringement of themselves, loved ones.

[bessmertniy]

They are being saved from the plague, and they are screaming about their rights.

[Lamata]

Libera, oaths there too.

[Gray brother]

Quote: Lamata

Libera, oaths there too.

Truly, these beings are the same everywhere. There is a reason to "dislike" them.

[krot]

Libera, oaths and there

These are homegrown accomplices of the Anglo-Saxons. Liberals are on their hind legs alone! As you know, Hong Kong has always been a springboard for the expansion of the Anglo-Saxons in Asia.

[Gray brother]

Quote: krot

, Hong Kong has always been a springboard for the expansion of the Anglo-Saxons in Asia.

Hong Kong is the world's largest queen's offshore hole. With the expansion of the British is not very (everything is already occupied by the United States), but they save the leading sector of the British economy and they really do not like the prospect of the transfer of Hong Kong banks under the jurisdiction of China.
And a liberda always works for strangers, and not for its own people - it is clear that in order to do such things you need to be a person with a special character (that is, [censorship] com over).
Hence the permanent dances on the bones.

[novobranets]

They yell slowly, almost in a whisper. China already didn’t really stand on ceremony with troublemakers, however, they don’t put it on the wall, they have another tradition - the stadium. Now, during an epidemic, any manifestation of disobedience can be equated with a threat to national security, with the ensuing consequences.

Anyone who conceals the symptoms of a coronavirus or their relationship with people from Wuhan will be severely punished. A Beijing court explained why hiding a trip to the city where the epidemic started could lead to jail. Such behavior during an epidemic that threatens the world will be regarded by the Chinese authorities as a deliberate threat to public safety, which could result in punishment. from three years in prison to deathhttps://www.tvc.ru/news/show/id/178339/?utm_p=pulse_t

[orionvitt]

Better to let Hong Kong calculate the losses for their economy, after the mess they made there, fighting for "their rights". China will survive, but little Hong Kong? Or they think that "big brother" will help. But of course, you won't hear such data from the local liberda (and not only from the local one). The statements of the "Hong Kong opposition" remind me of the logic of the Ukrainian revolutionaries about what a joy it is when a neighbor's cow dies. Or "Let the neighbor's house burn down, I'll warm your ass at least." However, why be surprised, the training manuals about all of them are the same.

[mat-vey]

Quote: Victor_B

Kreakly in any government actions will find infringement of themselves, loved ones.

And then they will tell you how to act correctly. It was necessary after everything is over.

[Krasnodar]

Quote: Victor_B

Kreakly in any government actions will find infringement of themselves, loved ones.

Hong Kongers live by the highest world standards - fourth in the HDI - (Canada at 13, China at 85), in 1st place in life expectancy, (Canada at 14th, China at 61st), etc. d. It is clear that from their positions, criticism of China is quite logical - they became part of a less developed country in terms of living standards.

[loki565]

Judging by the stories there is a very strict quarantine, they let them out of the house for 2 hours, it’s forbidden to use personal transparencies, you can even go to the store every three days.

[depressant]

It's not just Hong Kong. The entire industrial south of China considers itself pure, "correct" Chinese, despising the inhabitants of the northern part of the country, who have come in large numbers to China since ancient times (Mongols, as well as various peoples from Siberia and Central Asia). Many major cities in the southern region are governed by mayors who form the top of the Chinese Komsomol. Party members are officially at the head of the Komsomol, but they only formally determine the organization's policy, in fact, without having any serious influence on it. They are just observers. According to the law, the Komsomol is an organization independent of the Communist Party, not accountable. Suffice it to say that the mayor of Wuhan, one of its leaders, independently organized the blockade of the huge city, without having orders from above. It took Comrade Xi 10 days to digest such audacity and was forced to agree with the decision. The mayors of neighboring cities, also "Komsomol members", imposed a blockade in their cities also without a party order. This is despite the fact that during more serious epidemics, cities were not blocked. Intent? Who knows. The shutdown of production has already led to colossal losses. The entire south, under the leadership of the Komsomol leaders, has frenzied sympathy for the United States and is very cool towards Comrade Xi, who comes from the north. The South is a kind of Chinese front. Not everything is smooth and unanimous there, as it seems to us from the outside. So, the comparison of the coronavirus outbreak with the subsequent blockade of the "Komsomol" territories by the "Komsomol members" themselves, perhaps, is rightly compared in terms of consequences with the Chernobyl disaster. Both in economics and in domestic politics.

[Fedorov]

How many vobla "have earned on this coronavirus .. Starting from masks and ending with the media. Hong Kong has already been pulled up, and will soon reach Madagascar."

[The leader of the Redskins]

Now this infection will be sculpted to all the troubles and misfortunes ...

[bessmertniy]

China was unlucky in this respect - it was the first to fall under the epidemic. But illnesses with the same success mow down the Communists, and conservatives, and liberal democrats of any country. And it may very well be that as a result, serious measures taken by the Chinese authorities will show that they have justified themselves. As far as I remember, according to the forecast, the coronovirus may quiet down a bit, but give an outbreak in the fall. And who will fall under it is still incomprehensible.

[demo]

But illnesses with the same success mow down the Communists, and conservatives, and liberal democrats of any country.

Not quite right.
The strange thing is that the virus kills adults and the elderly, but does not touch the children.
Why?
In children, immunity is weaker than an adult.
And children are less responsible for hygiene.
And the result is the opposite of what should be.
Why is that?
What kind of selectivity?
Virus is a method of nature to get rid of the weak.
And here is the opposite.
Who can benefit from this?
Well, not nature, after all.

[bessmertniy]

Yes, this virus has some strange feature - it affects children less. At least for the children calmer. But today we do not know reliable statistics on coronavirus deaths - how many people are of what age. And it’s more correct to take care of it all - regardless of the years lived.

[Maki Avellevich]

Quote: bessmertniy

Yes, this virus has some strange feature - it affects children less. At least for the children calmer. But today we do not know reliable statistics on coronavirus deaths - how many people are of what age. And it’s more correct to take care of it all - regardless of the years lived.

there are diseases, i.e. viruses and bacteria that change their behavior.
in the beginning, the symptoms may not be dangerous and this helps to infect a large count. people because they don’t take protective measures.
at some point, an incomprehensible mechanism is triggered and the symptoms become deadly ops.
such behavior looks strange, as if the disease has a distribution plan but it is a fact.
so unfortunately it’s too early to judge the dangers of the crust, we will see in the near future.

[syndicalist]

Today, the weak is not the one with few muscles. And not someone with less life experience. We are exactly on the border of the change of eras. In the new, informational era, neither muscles nor experience from the previous era are needed. Nature perfectly "understands" this and perfectly copes with unnecessary ballast.

[Maki Avellevich]

Quote: syndicalist

Today, the weak is not the one with few muscles. And not someone with less life experience. We are exactly on the border of the change of eras. In the new, informational era, neither muscles nor experience from the previous era are needed. Nature perfectly "understands" this and perfectly copes with unnecessary ballast.

an interesting idea. although the new "information" era began not long ago.
nature, as a rule, "does not rock the boat", but looks closely at trends and slowly begins to react.
anyway for the original approach to the problem of five!

[demo]

I allow myself to disagree with your controversial conclusions.
I won’t explain for a long time.
I would recommend that you refresh your memory of Efremov's "Razor's Edge".
The master very correctly and strongly substantiated the need for the presence of both muscles and everything else in the post technological era, i.e. in a period when you do not have to run after mammoths, escape from wild cats, chill in the cold, bask around the fire.
It turns out that what seems beautiful to us is expediency by nature.
So it is with muscles. The muscles in a man are fine, and in a woman is nonsense.
Etc.
I think that you are wrong.

It gives me pleasure to show my three-year-old grandson how to climb a tree and run with the ball for 45 minutes.

[syndicalist]

Your pleasures from football and other physical exercises are just a relic of a past era, to which we all relate to the old. At the time of Efremov there were not even prerequisites for the environment in which we begin to live. I remember he justified female beauty by the need to bear a child. For that period, it was a logical conclusion. But now even the woman herself is not particularly needed for the reproduction of our population. Even without binoculars, the future is quite visible, in which there is simply no place for physical work. Why strain if the robot does the same job hundreds of times better and faster?
You do not need to be a very perspicacious futurologist to see the enormous prospects of artificial intelligence. Not just as an amplifier of human abilities, but as a SUBJECT, setting his own tasks and looking for ways to solve them. The only opportunity for us to withstand competition with him and remain as he is is to integrate into the information environment, use advanced achievements to modernize our own body.

[demo]

A lot of words.
How many fitness centers are open. And how many people come there.
All your arguments are scattered like smoke above water.
Yes. Old age.
Remembered Deep Purple.

[dauria]

Nature perfectly "understands" this and perfectly copes with unnecessary ballast.

A virus that kills everyone and quickly disappears immediately with the killed population. He also needs to give offspring in order to live. The ratio of mortality to spread rate should be balanced.
The man himself changed the speed, and very quickly by the standards of biology - we fly, we live in a dense heap in cities, we have medicine.
And the virus, as it was, remains - a stupid result of stupid slow natural selection. Equilibrium will be established again, one way or another.
An interesting fact - in medieval Europe, the most "desirable" wives were those with a face "beaten by smallpox."

[depressant]

I was surprised to learn that coronaviruses are being created and patented. Or the solved natural is patented. For example, the Asian strain of bird flu (outbreak 2008-2010) is patented by Baxter International, and the vaccine against it is patented by the pharmaceutical company Roche, Switzerland. Everything looks as if the notes are being played out. One company creates a virus, another in parallel with a vaccine, and when everything is ready, they start an epidemic. And it's not just about the desire to make money on the sale of drugs. If there was no plan to reduce the population of certain territories, and for some reason it seems to me that someone has such a plan, who would allow them to act so openly.

[Dimy4]

There will be nothing to China, even if they do not hope, there is a spotted one and others like it there.

[Polite Moose]

Quote: Dimy4

There will be nothing to China, even if they do not hope

That's right. For China, spending $ 10-20-100-200 billion on the fight against the epidemic is not a problem at all. How much will be needed - they will spend so much. Damage to their economies is not critical. Catch up. Moreover, reports flickered that the Chinese are actively buying up amid falling shares in their enterprises.
I cannot but agree with representatives of the opposition in Hong Kong that the coronavirus for China is similar to Chernobyl for the USSR, but only in the sense that the fight against the threat has rallied the people. In addition, the Chinese have gained vast experience in fighting epidemics and have seriously modernized their emergency services and related infrastructure. They will now even cope with the zombie apocalypse. I have no doubt. So that "Hello Hong Kong!"
PS The epidemic is not over yet. If he flings to Hong Kong, will it not prove to be Hiroshima for him?

[bessmertniy]

For the Chinese economy, coronovirus is not yet critical. The growth rate of its economy may fall by only 0,5-1,5% and reach about 5%. But at this rate, many countries of the world today do not.

[dauria]

If he flings to Hong Kong, will it not prove to be Hiroshima for him?

Hmm, an interesting thought .. And if to California, or Paris? Democracy is good, but in times of war and epidemics "dictatorships" like Stalin win.
So the planet is lucky. China is doing just fine. No democratic snot.

[reservist]

Quote: Polite Elk

The epidemic is not over yet. If he flings to Hong Kong, will it not prove to be Hiroshima for him?

in Hong Kong already under a hundred infected, so for them everything is just beginning ...

[Polite Moose]

Quote: reservist

in Hong Kong already under a hundred infected, so for them everything is just beginning

So, then.

[Lamata]

Hong Kong what is hoping for? If that China in 1989 showed how to act.

[Mountain shooter]

Meanwhile ... COVID-19 captures South Korea and Japan. Mainland China seems to have coped with this scourge. The epidemic is waning. Undoubtedly, thanks to the CCP and the mobilization of resources. And here is how it will be with the democratic Japan and Yu.K. see you very soon.

[Magus]

The author notes that in China, lessons should be learned from what is associated with the coronavirus epidemic.

Lessons related to the epidemic must be learned by all countries.
The fact that the opposition in China accuses the country's authorities of trying to extinguish the protest in Hong Kong because of the epidemic is also a liberal opposition) and liberals everywhere use similar methods.

[Boris55]

It is no secret to anyone that large Western firms, including the USA, located their production in China because of the cheapness of productive forces. The play played by China with coronovirus will allow them to drive out all Western firms, bankrupt them and buy them cheaply - a restructuring of the type we have in the 90s, only for a turn. I am only happy for the Chinese leadership that was able to do this.

But the Japanese in front of the whole World did not conduct a human experiment on the speed of spread of the virus in a confined space (cruise ship) and a successful attempt to mutate it to other races ... Detachment 731 exists ...

[Orkraider]

Yes, the liner shook to be honest. Incubator .. and transported all over the world

[rotmistr60]

The nasty opposition is the same in all countries. Spit on the virus, the main and terrible thing is that the protests come to naught, and they tried so hard. Of course, China will incur large financial costs and losses in the economy, but not to the extent that the Hong Kong opposition wants. Squeezed out.

[Aleks2000]

Hong Kong to Hong Kong
but we must now think about making films, videos about it ....

And then again we will brake, and it turns out that it is the USA Superheroes and Japanese Anime along with the spirits who saved the world from viruses sent by Christian demons from Rasputin ....

[Olya Tsako]

All that we gave to Turkey for free and built and are building for free in Turkey, transfer to China.
"But a passaran!"
Especially the seven-star "Mardan Palace" hotel.

[Sergej1972]

Recently this hotel was shown on TV, it is abandoned and began to collapse.

[Pavel57]

Pandemics are fraught not only for the construction of a separate country, but for the entire civilization. So Hong Kong is small.

[Vasyan1971]

The author notes that in China, lessons should be learned from what is associated with the coronavirus epidemic.

Wow, what a clever and fresh thought!

[75 Sergey]

Yes, there will be no nichrome, survived both pigs and avian, survive and koranovanny.

[Victor March 47]

Bastards are not only with us. And not only in Ukraine. They are everywhere, in the blood, misfortunes and catastrophes, building their political careers.

[Imperial Technocrat]

Hardly. Soon it will decline

[Jarserge]

To all these oppositions, Americans remove the brain

[AB]

And this yells a 90% supply from mainland China. Oh well. First, toilet paper will end in Hong Kong, and then rice with meat ... China will not let anyone interfere in their affairs with Hong Kong. Even if all nuclear power plants explode. What got to the Chinese, it was gone for the rest.

[georggy]

Bullshit no more.

[mikstepanenko]

I’m wondering what and when the answer will come from the Chinese. It is already known that the RNA of the virus is abnormally large and consists of three viruses at once. The carriers of which are VERY different types of living things. Man (the virus is close to flu), bats and snakes. The probability that these viruses have met and combined in vivo is vanishingly small. And there are very few countries that can organize relevant research (genetic engineering). And with whom the Chinese had serious graters recently, it is well known.