Sabra tanks went into consumption: losses of the Turkish army in Syria

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Sabra Mk II


You can hardly surprise the personnel of the armored vehicles of the jihadists, spread out by the ATS fighters, so often they appear in the information bulletins. However, now the ranks of machines destroyed by Damascus units began to replenish the heavier products of the Turkish army. Ankara on the very first day of the invasion of western Syria began to suffer losses in the tank fleet.



News SANA published footage of the intervention and its consequences. Military experts first drew attention to the fact that they went to the expense Tanks M60 of the Turkish army. There is a misconception that these machines are "antiques", not able to prove themselves on the battlefield. In fact, the technology of this family in certain modifications is quite a formidable force.

According to IISS, in the arsenal of the Turkish troops along with the Leopards and the M48A5 at the beginning of 2019 there were 100 M60A1, 650 M60A3 and 166 M60T Sabra. Sabra is the most advanced version of the base machine, created by Israeli developers based on the M60A3. This modification is presented in two versions - Sabra Mk.II (has a commander’s turret with 12,7 mm M85, dynamic protection, thermal imager) and Sabra Mk.III (instead of the turret - remotely controlled 7,62 mm machine gun installation; equipped with a warning system radar exposure).

On the Syrian theater were precisely the Sabra, which, according to some experts, is one of the “decorations” of the modern world tank fleet. SANA video compilation only was counted four M60 upgraded to Sabra level. They went to the expense during the battle.

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    1. +14
      22 February 2020 03: 27
      But the Syrians are punctuating them, what is it? Have you learned how to use Krasnopol or something else?
      1. +86
        22 February 2020 03: 33
        This is not quite art ... and not quite Syrians ...
        1. +26
          22 February 2020 03: 35
          Quote: Eugene-Eugene
          This is not quite art ... and not quite Syrians ...

          Quite and I admit that "polite planes" are working here. Here is the situation where it would be possible to work out the capabilities and armament of our attack UAVs
          1. +28
            22 February 2020 03: 42
            Sergei hi
            A pair of Su-24 worked.
            1. 0
              22 February 2020 14: 11
              Or maybe helicopters?
              1. +8
                22 February 2020 14: 27
                Yesterday infa slipped that they worked a pair of Su-24. Where do not ask, I do not remember. Too many monitor resources. laughing
                Like Kassad.
                1. +2
                  22 February 2020 21: 47
                  The video is interesting. Highly.
                  And the explosions for artillery are very powerful.
                  If they had used powerful missiles, all the media would have talked about this.
                  Bombs are this. From planes bombed.
                  Most likely Russia, not Syria bombed.
                  Except for the first frame. It looks like the Serpent Gorynych has worked there.
            2. +5
              23 February 2020 04: 56
              Quote: LiSiCyn
              A pair of Su-24 worked.

              a lot of scum crumbled for just 2 SU-24 !!!! feel wassat
              1. +4
                23 February 2020 09: 56
                I wrote about the defeat of Turkish tanks .... Airstrikes were carried out throughout the day, how many UAVs hung. Did you have to throw off the video for 12 hours? laughing
          2. +3
            22 February 2020 09: 51
            Most likely, we don’t have shock UAVs yet, but UAVs illuminate the target for guided missiles. On some frames, it was noticeable that something flashed in the frame after this explosion. Either bombs or guided missiles.
          3. 0
            22 February 2020 12: 38
            Point worked
            https://vestnik-rm.ru/news/oborona-i-bezopasnost/sirijcy-nakryli-turkov-i-boevikov-tochkoj-s-samoj-opasnoj-boevoj-chastyu?utm_source=warfiles.ru
            1. 0
              23 February 2020 13: 29
              Which Point, there the whole frame would be in breaks.
              This is either a guided projectile, or "Edge" or a bomb.
              The question is - can SVP-24s so accurately get into tanks?
          4. +1
            22 February 2020 13: 26
            Quote: svp67
            Here is a situation where it would be possible to work out the capabilities and armament of our strike UAVs

            So far we have not enough of them, from the word at all.
        2. +1
          22 February 2020 03: 40
          This is not quite art ... and not quite Syrians ...

          kab 500 ???
          1. +10
            22 February 2020 04: 18
            Quote: loki565
            kab 500 ???

            To defeat such targets and KAB-250LG is enough ...
          2. +1
            22 February 2020 09: 55
            They bomb them with ordinary fabs.
            1. 0
              22 February 2020 10: 37
              Quote: figvam
              They bomb them with ordinary fabs.

              It is painfully accurate to put "cast iron", very accurately and the impression is that the UAV "highlights"
              1. +1
                22 February 2020 12: 01
                So SVP-24 Hephaestus helps.


        3. -12
          22 February 2020 04: 58
          This is not quite art ... and not quite Syrians ...


          The video says that this is the Syrian army hammering on the Turks.
        4. -2
          22 February 2020 07: 25
          Really !!! polite green men flew in !!!
        5. +1
          22 February 2020 12: 18
          "Dryers" are working.
      2. +3
        22 February 2020 03: 55
        Quote: svp67
        But the Syrians are punctuating them, what is it? Have you learned how to use Krasnopol or something else?

        just trained! God forbid that in the Middle East (appeared, crossed out) a force takes shape in ours and it is important to emphasize in Syrian interests ...
      3. -1
        22 February 2020 08: 29
        As for accuracy, this is not known, because those shells (bombs) that fell far from the target remained behind the scenes.
      4. +2
        22 February 2020 09: 54
        They have a Su-24M. Ours passed, for a long time already.
      5. +5
        22 February 2020 15: 34
        over the years, the experience of the Syrian army + unlimited supply of weapons from the Russian Federation will turn the life of the Turkish army into hell
    2. +25
      22 February 2020 03: 29
      Let's go to the expense, good! Nothing to do to the Turks in Syria!
      Erdogan is wondering how he will explain to the relatives of the dead Turkish soldiers what they did there. How will the invasion of a sovereign state be justified?
      Syria, Libya ... the Turks are taking an uneasy load.
      1. +22
        22 February 2020 03: 36
        Quote: ANIMAL
        Erdogan is wondering how he will explain to the relatives of the dead Turkish soldiers what they did there.

        He explained this long ago and, most importantly, received understanding and approval from the majority of Turkish society. Shout "ours are beaten" and it works for them 100%
        1. +14
          22 February 2020 03: 44
          Quote: svp67

          He explained this long ago and, most importantly, received understanding and approval from the majority of Turkish society. Shout "ours are beaten" and it works for them 100%

          Well, according to this logic, Erdogan needs to occupy the whole Middle East and half of the world in addition! Turks live throughout the former Ottoman Empire, actively immigrate to other countries (Germany up to 4 million Turks). However ... he is trying to bite the already Weakened Countries internal conflicts. Frankly speaking, Shakalya is politics!
          1. +18
            22 February 2020 03: 59
            Quote: ANIMAL
            Well, according to this logic, Erdogan needs to occupy the whole Middle East and half of the world in addition!

            And there is. Why is he climbing into Libya.
            Quote: ANIMAL
            Frankly speaking, Shakalya is politics!

            Let’s do without such epithets. This is politics, real politics
            1. +11
              22 February 2020 04: 17
              Quote: svp67

              This is politics, real politics

              Only not one Real Politics - there was no harm! And perish - Real Soldiers from such a "policy."
              Quote: Krasnodar

              It works for populism - it is supported by traditionalists in the country, a layer from the middle bar of the middle class and lower. Because this genius will shut down the economy by love - such local victories are needed. He won’t get into a strong one - the Russians will plow half of the country for him, the Israelis will knock out the air force and navy - but on the Syrians and Kurds he can very well show "a small victorious war."

              Oops ... and with a small victorious war - missed. The fact that the economy is locked up - No doubt, well, and there the other "sins" will come out - they will also remind about Syria and Libya, the Kurds at the same time (where without them), Greece ... strain with NATO, etc.
              Will come out to Erdogan sideways - his military adventures!
              1. +11
                22 February 2020 06: 40
                The interests of the state, and of any of them, do not always coincide with justice.
              2. +16
                22 February 2020 08: 46
                Quote: ANIMAL
                with a small victorious war - slip came out. The fact that the economy is locked up - No doubt, well, and there the other "sins" will come out - they will also remind about Syria and Libya, the Kurds at the same time (where without them), Greece ... strain with NATO, etc.
                Will come out to Erdogan sideways - his military adventures!

                1. Erdogan has no absolute power. He, like all other heads of state, at all times, is forced to obey one or another "request" of power-political groups. For example, he has ten million citizens - the descendants of the Crimean Tatars and Caucasians - who, in principle, have a negative attitude towards Russia and the Russians. Always and everywhere, until the end of time. He cannot ignore this.
                2. Of course, Erdogan would like to become the leader who will start to cobble together the Ottoman Port 2.0 again and become the elected sultan. And he began to act in this direction for years. But it didn't work out. For a bunch of reasons. Incl. and on the fact that if no one, in fact, could interfere with the Ottomans (and even then they took a hundred and fifty years of conquest only until Constantinople), then modern Turkey will be put in the wheels, like grit, "by the whole world."
                3. Cooperation and, even as close as possible friendship with the Russian Federation, are most beneficial for Turkey. And Erdogan understands this perfectly. Moreover, this has already been verified - including and supply of S-400. But, as I said above - there are those who do not care about it. They have their own interests, opinions, mental complexes ...

                As for "helping with tanks", then ... single small groups of tanks will not help pro-Turkish barmales in any way. The reason is simple: TVD is oversaturated with many different ATGMs! There are 5 ATGMs for each such tank.
                Those. if you enter, enter immediately hundreds of tanks and others providing a "tank loop". (That is, full-fledged combat formations, not even of the battalion, but of the brigade level.) Moreover, with decisive offensive tasks performed by concentrated groupings. Only that would make sense.
                And then there at pr-k aviation with guided bombs and missiles, artillery with drone adjustment... In general, this immediately leveled all the "inputs of single tanks" - most of them were simply annihilated from the air ... Sobsno, instead of a "mighty blow", a liquid bunch and dirty trousers from the inside came out.
              3. -1
                22 February 2020 10: 59
                In principle, in the interests of any state to wage war on foreign territory, no matter how cynical it sounds, Turkey also does not want the consequences of the Syrian and Iraqi conflicts spread to its territory, and therefore seeks to create controlled enclaves in these states, as well as local pro-Turkish militias.
                Russia, seeking to gain a foothold in the Mediterranean, also has its interests in Syria and Iraq and supports the pro-Russian Assad Forces
                Our interests clash with the Turkish, in this case, and clashes arise.
                It is up to politicians to seek solutions, it is up to the military to obey orders and fight if it is necessary to risk health and life.
            2. 0
              22 February 2020 08: 16
              in Libya, oil and devastation and strife, which is not to be done.
          2. +10
            22 February 2020 04: 00
            Quote: ANIMAL

            Well, according to this logic, Erdogan needs to occupy the whole Middle East and half of the world in addition! Turks live throughout the former Ottoman Empire, actively immigrate to other countries (Germany up to 4 million Turks). However ... he is trying to bite the already Weakened Countries internal conflicts. Frankly speaking, Shakalya is politics!

            It works for populism - it is supported by traditionalists in the country, a layer from the middle bar of the middle class and lower. Because this genius will shut down the economy by love - such local victories are needed. He won’t get into a strong one - the Russians will plow half of the country for him, the Israelis will knock out the air force and navy - but on the Syrians and Kurds he can very well show "a small victorious war."
            1. +3
              22 February 2020 06: 43
              Why should he climb on Israel? There the states are friends, but we, on the contrary, will only support mattresses, for example, with the next sanctions. And you respected in general in a dangerous direction then you live hi . Why are you not sleeping ?
              1. +8
                22 February 2020 07: 15
                Greetings!
                In a minor, teeth are cut - so sleeps poorly ((Well, I - respectively.
                Che climb to Israel - popper another 10 years ago, (Moscow's breakthrough of the blockade of Gaza), after its 200s, threatened to lead the fleet itself, going to Gaza. The Israelis giggled, he interrupted military cooperation with the Jews, but ... the total merchandise turnover through private traders increased.
                Krasnodar - yes. Dangerous direction. I hope everything is OK with air defense)).
                1. +1
                  22 February 2020 12: 53
                  Quote: Krasnodar
                  (Moscow breakthrough of the blockade of Gaza),

                  Greetings!
                  Funny typo. hi
                  1. +6
                    22 February 2020 13: 00
                    Greetings! hi
                    When I saw it was too late to correct laughing
          3. +1
            22 February 2020 07: 02
            Shakalya politics!
            - building the Ottoman world
        2. +1
          22 February 2020 08: 37
          When they beat well, the principle of respect for elders begins to apply - beats means they have the right
      2. -27
        22 February 2020 03: 43
        Well, they explained to us why ours should die there. And it’s even easier for the Turks to explain. It is possible to issue a law on the classification of military losses. I wonder what the limit on the consumption of soldiers conceived among the Turks.
        1. -1
          22 February 2020 13: 43
          Well, they explained to us why ours should die there.
          We explained the terrorist attack in the subway in St. Petersburg.
          1. -1
            23 February 2020 11: 43
            Quote: Incvizitor
            We explained the terrorist attack in the subway in St. Petersburg.

            Is it like the United States September 11 chtoli? You might think terrorists live exclusively in Syria
          2. 0
            24 February 2020 02: 02
            There the Kyrgyz and Uzbeks excelled. Why roll to Syria if they are here. fool
    3. +10
      22 February 2020 03: 33
      Here comes the viper!
      The probability of getting into a war game on a large scale is growing.
      Well, let's hope for our EVERYTHING.
      He, however, is a grandmaster and, against him, few can play.
      But the great ones sometimes make annoying mistakes. Imperfect man ...
      In general, we wish good luck to Putin!
      1. -9
        22 February 2020 08: 09
        about grandmasters is not even funny
      2. 0
        23 February 2020 22: 02
        Quote: Victor_B
        He, however, is a grandmaster and few can play against him.

        And they don’t play with him especially. It’s not the Olympic Games and the World Cup. The grandmaster plays with himself. By and large, we have nothing to do in Syria. Afghanistan has not taught anything. We won’t let Assad build what he wants. Too much there. interests. And sitting there 10 years of finance is not enough
    4. +5
      22 February 2020 03: 39
      Delight in the precision of striking. On the objects of armored vehicles, so almost a dozen. Erdogan, having decided to test Russia for "weak", realized that in this case they would not stand on ceremony with his open support of the militants (artillery, armored vehicles and the presence of Turks in the combat formations of militants). And as confirmation of the blow of our VKS. Therefore, I hurried to Moscow.
      1. +6
        22 February 2020 04: 20
        Quote: rotmistr60
        Thrills the accuracy of strikes.

        Especially when the Turks use their electronic warfare, this is good news.
        1. +6
          22 February 2020 08: 33
          Billets of scrap metal from Turkish technology are becoming serious. wassat
    5. +5
      22 February 2020 03: 47
      Many photos from Idlib show multi-kilometer columns of Turkish technology. Beautifully and compactly displayed in a row. As if similar shots of a blow to them looked healthy ... Beauty - explosions, smoke, scattering pieces of armored personnel carriers, escaping flames and people running in fright. Not understanding what the hell they came here.
      And after some time the video frames - trailers on charred wheels, sooty burning tanks, skeletons and piles of iron in place of armored personnel carriers and cars. And along the sidelines, charred corpses of people who did not understand why they came here ...
      1. +8
        22 February 2020 04: 24
        Quote: Gritsa
        charred wheels trailers, sooty burning tanks, skeletons and piles of iron in place of armored personnel carriers and cars.

        So already there ...
        Quote: Gritsa
        Many photos from Idlib show multi-kilometer columns of Turkish technology. Beautifully and compactly displayed in a row.

        They will wait until the "polite planes" use this ...

        After their application, only scrap collectors will have to work there.
    6. +12
      22 February 2020 04: 07
      The Sabra tanks went into consumption earlier, at least on February 11th:

      https://topwar.ru/167715-pokazana-unichtozhennaja-v-idlibe-tureckaja-bronetehnika.html
    7. 0
      22 February 2020 06: 10
      Well, they beat like that ... Exactly. The levers of tanks are not Turks? The technique is not simple ... It costs money, and many months of training. A tank with a poorly trained crew is not even a bulldozer ...
      1. +3
        22 February 2020 06: 19
        Right The levers of tanks are not Turks?
        Today it was reported that the Turks officially announced the two dead tankers and printed their photos with expressions of sorrow for the dead heroes. Clearly not from a stray bullet.
    8. +5
      22 February 2020 06: 19
      I hope we won’t sell anything to the Turks anymore; for a long time it was necessary to impose a military embargo on Turkey; the sale of the c400 was a big mistake
      1. +1
        22 February 2020 06: 31
        Quote: Graz
        I hope we won’t sell anything to the Turks anymore; for a long time it was necessary to impose a military embargo on Turkey; the sale of the c400 was a big mistake

        Not very big. These complexes "on their own" will most likely not be able to shoot ... There are all sorts of ... Tricks.
        1. +3
          22 February 2020 06: 46
          Yes, they will most likely be able to shoot. Our people simply know how to deceive their own complex, knowing its characteristics
    9. +1
      22 February 2020 08: 03
      Russian bpl take off how VKS hits but for some reason it is written that the Syrian troops, either these are gifts or here someone lied
      1. +2
        22 February 2020 08: 33
        If the Turks die at the hands of the Syrians, then this is one story, if from the Russian military, then this is another.
    10. +7
      22 February 2020 08: 08
      Here is a sort of tomato to my taste.
    11. +2
      22 February 2020 08: 17
      thus direct blows of ours and the Turks against each other have already begun, while the management’s agreement to write off such attacks on the Asadites and the Greens is still working. but it’s not possible to lie like that for a long time, the risk of an open direct collision will increase accordingly, and there will be no time for fun there.
    12. +1
      22 February 2020 08: 27
      Turks get real combat experience.
      This is from the positive (for them).
      And from the interesting.
      How the Sultan will get out inside Turkey.
      Will he be able to make a victory out of defeats or will he and the "Muslim brothers" begin to decline as a decisive political force?
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    14. +2
      22 February 2020 08: 49
      For Colonel of the Russian Aerospace Forces Oleg Peshkov!

      I wonder what is striking, the accuracy of the hits is not always very good, most likely the corrected bomb has some kind of deviation of 10 meters.
    15. +5
      22 February 2020 08: 56
      Tomato, it's time to come to your senses! Turkey as an empire can only be in history! And it would be time for us to choose friends more carefully!
    16. 0
      22 February 2020 10: 19
      They went to the expense during the battle.

      Most importantly, the crews went to the expense. For what?
    17. +4
      22 February 2020 10: 27
      Sabra is an attempt to modernize the old tank, that's all ... This car is inferior even to the latest modifications of the T-55, which are capable of firing ATGMs through the barrel, have active armor, a new fire control system ... Even the T-34 can be dangerous, but nevertheless, you cannot compare old men with modern tanks ...
    18. -1
      22 February 2020 10: 33
      The video shows that the tank remains intact, the ammunition gets near the tank.
      1. +2
        22 February 2020 11: 26
        If the hatches are open, the crew from this is not easier. Minimum severe barotrauma and concussion are provided.
      2. +6
        22 February 2020 12: 08
        He does not remain whole, you can believe. The box is not thrown away by the explosion of course, but it's not a nuclear explosion, in order to turn over 40 tons. The explosion of the FAB, even a relatively small 250 kg, gives heavy high-speed fragments and a shock wave that removes tracks, rollers, damages the gun and attachments. By the way, remember the effect of a close explosion of BM-21 missiles on the T-64 in the Donbass, the box of the tank was in a dismantled state.
        1. -1
          22 February 2020 12: 49
          I’m only glad I would be if all the invaders died there, I just don’t like the inaccuracy and hat-tinging mood.
    19. +1
      22 February 2020 11: 11
      Quote: svp67
      It is painfully accurate to put "cast iron", very accurately and the impression is that the UAV "highlights"

      SVP-24
    20. -12
      22 February 2020 11: 15
      And why no one really wants to figure out what happened in Syria between the Russian Federation and Turkey?
      As far as I understand, there were agreements on a 20km buffer zone that the Turks roof, and the Russian Federation and Assad kind of got in there, which caused Erdogan’s indignation.
      As I understand it, the incident with the American ram of the armored car was from the same series: they agreed on the separation zones, after which one of the parties got into their own lands?
      Think for yourself, have we ever been told on TV about "joint" patrolling with the Americans?
      Then the question is, what did they and we do on the same road and who was superfluous ?.

      All other information from the evil one and agitation of pure water without details of the root cause of the batch.
      There is a misconception that these machines are "antiques" that are not able to prove themselves on the battlefield

      Reading this, I have a clear feeling that the author tried to exaggerate the significance of the defeat of the Turkish tank, and not the most advanced in the technological sense, because fishlessness and cancer.

      And this jargon
      They went to the expense during the battle.

      here I agree, only we can be brainwashed by patriotic education so that a person independently goes to slaughter in some kind of Donbass meat grinder and will still be indignant if he is not allowed there (((.

      I am for my country, but there are issues that need to be well understood before you go to expense.
      1. +2
        22 February 2020 12: 52
        I will correct you, patriotic education is good, but hooray-patriotic is extremely harmful. Unfortunately, a military review often contains precisely cheers-patriotism.
      2. 0
        22 February 2020 13: 18
        Quote: Bshkaus
        As far as I understand, there were agreements on a 20km buffer zone that the Turks roof, and the Russian Federation with Assad seems to be there climbed, which aroused the indignation of Erdogan

        ===
        climbed in response to shelling / attack. then the question to the Turks is why do the groups protected by them allow provocations to be made? and if the Turks cannot or do not want to hold them? everything is complicated there.
        1. 0
          22 February 2020 17: 34
          everything is complicated there.

          That's what I said, adding that we need to figure it out
    21. +3
      22 February 2020 11: 23
      Silently dumb in Turkish. Several tanks and armored combat vehicles were destroyed - and only two were killed. Willingly believe
    22. +2
      22 February 2020 11: 48
      The Turkish army armored troops look very good. Gaining experience will be very dangerous
      1. +1
        23 February 2020 01: 14
        What exactly is in the Turkish armored forces, do you think it looks good? 1500 museum M48A2S, which in case of war will arm the Turkish reservists ?!
        1. 0
          23 February 2020 09: 35
          Do you know how to summarize the amount, list TTX, we were pretty good at 1941, and what came of it? Turks are a serious opponent. They should not be underestimated. Even museum M48A2S
    23. 0
      22 February 2020 12: 54
      Quote: Alexey from Perm
      I will correct you, patriotic education is good, but hooray-patriotic is extremely harmful. Unfortunately, a military review often contains precisely cheers-patriotism.

      Here they are actively fighting with him laughing With a bang patri ... A terrible neologism.
      PS. First question. Who will judge what cheers and what not cheers ..?
    24. +1
      22 February 2020 13: 45
      These sabra debris to be written off, but the crews are destroyed, cannot but rejoice.
      1. 0
        22 February 2020 23: 27
        Quote: Incvizitor
        , can not but rejoice.

        Here is an interesting point. Does Erdogan eliminate pro-Gülenian military by proxy? And for spilled Turkish blood, is it possible to bargain with economic preferences from Russia? To the heap, any compromise can be declared a huge victory, and become a hero of the nation.
    25. 0
      22 February 2020 14: 03
      Does that really help? There is no sense in redirecting troops. We need aviation, not tanks that will be destroyed in a split second from Artillery / Aviation.
    26. +3
      22 February 2020 19: 39
      In fact, we can say that Turkey is a sponsor of terrorism.
      1. +2
        23 February 2020 01: 15
        She was still in Chechnya, so this is not news

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