Turchinov told why Ukraine did not declare war on Russia

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The ex-secretary of the National Security and Defense Council of Ukraine Oleksandr Turchynov explained why Kiev did not impose martial law and declare war on the Russian Federation. He believes that the introduction of martial law should not be confused with the declaration of war.

He said this on the air of the Ukrainian Internet channel "Iceland".



Turchinov admitted that he advocated the introduction of martial law in Ukraine in 2014, but because of the unfolding power struggle in the country, he did not receive support. After all, if martial law is in force, then it is impossible to hold elections. In this case, according to Turchinov, in Ukraine there would be no legitimate authority.

Later, introducing such a provision was also unprofitable, because then the Kiev authorities would stop receiving tranches from the International Monetary Fund and scare off the latest foreign investors.

Turchinov did not dare to declare war on Russia because of Moscow’s nuclear weapons. This is according to the "pastor" himself.

With the advent of Vladimir Zelensky to replace Petro Poroshenko, little has changed either. As before, the idea of ​​imposing martial law did not become popular. According to Zelensky, such a move will not only not lead to peace in the Donbass, but will also cause chaos throughout the country.

As for declaring war on Russia, Turchinov reasonably remarked that getting involved in a war with a nuclear power is not a good idea.
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    1. +11
      21 February 2020 19: 05
      The ex-secretary of the National Security and Defense Council of Ukraine Oleksandr Turchynov explained why Kiev did not impose martial law and declare war on the Russian Federation.

      Ochkanul, in Russia there are a lot of those who have relatives in Ukraine ... He and Co. would be put on a stake on Sq. them Lenin in Kiev broadcast to the whole world. ISIS would then be nothing with its head banging ...
      1. -22
        21 February 2020 19: 12
        Yes! Indeed, what they write on the fields of the Internet is completely inconsistent with the real situation of the neighbors. Last summer, by car with Russian numbers, with his wife and two young children, from Moscow to Kiev, then Lviv-Vinnitsa - Odessa, there is rest and back. On the way back, the truth was that the car broke down and I had to leave it and go home by the engine. Well, after that, he will return alone for the car ... Dai on the way back through Lugansk visited the grave of the dead Cossacks, where a friend who died at the beginning of this shed is buried .... Well, what am I doing all this ???? People! Before writing, spitting, throwing slippers .... cheers, cheers, cheers ... and so on ... you still need to have the courage to see: what's inside? So sometimes it throws up from people who simply work out and bend someone’s line.
        1. +25
          21 February 2020 19: 19
          What a Disgusting Erysipelas (c) K / F Gentlemen of fortune.
          It turns out why he did not declare war ... nuclear weapons - he was scared belay
          One Geletei of Ilovaisky "fearless" among the brothers, withstood the bombing (apparently a direct hit) by the Nuclear Bomb! laughing
          1. +18
            21 February 2020 19: 39
            Quote: ANIMAL
            What a Disgusting Erysipelas (c) K / F Gentlemen of fortune.

            Support.
            1. +3
              22 February 2020 00: 50
              This, of course, is a typical "daughter of a Sevastopol officer." This is how the Sumerians imagine it. One must dream of this. Brr-rrr. What a face! He is not just a bloody shepherd - he is a shit shepherd who splashes a consistency with mixed blood. Even the photo smells like ... dark.
          2. +8
            21 February 2020 19: 41
            The worst outcome for this sectarian pastor would be to be captured. He would have been shaved there.
          3. +17
            21 February 2020 19: 48
            As for declaring war on Russia, Turchinov reasonably remarked that getting involved in a war with a nuclear power is not a good idea.

            They’ve been at war with Russia for 6 years, tens of thousands of dead and wounded, but it turns out to be scary to start a war with Russia.
            1. +15
              21 February 2020 19: 54
              Donbass broke so that it didn’t seem enough what kind of Russia they still were.
              1. +2
                21 February 2020 22: 34
                Which Donbass? If not for the help of the Russian Federation and volunteers, everything would have choked.
                1. +1
                  21 February 2020 22: 40
                  This is already understandable, how can you deny yourself the pleasure of not touching the little Svidomo trolls.)
                2. +3
                  22 February 2020 03: 45
                  Quote: 30143
                  Which Donbass? If not for the help of the Russian Federation and volunteers, everything would have choked.

                  where are you in the ranks of volunteers ???
        2. +2
          21 February 2020 19: 23
          Quote: zloybond
          Last summer, by car with Russian numbers, with his wife and two young children, from Moscow to Kiev, then Lviv-Vinnitsa - Odessa, there is rest and back.

          I traveled through Belarus at a post, set up a car, and went with the Lvovs along the route - Lviv - Kiev - Cherkasy - through Piryatin to Sumy and back ...
          In Odessa did not work - crossed in Cherkasy with relatives (but there is FISHING ...) ...
          1. -1
            21 February 2020 19: 38
            We honestly went to Odessa for a funeral, so we had to cut it.
            1. +2
              21 February 2020 19: 47
              Quote: zloybond
              We honestly went to Odessa for a funeral, so we had to cut it.

              And I'm at the cemetery in Sumy, I had to check the graves and repair the monuments and the fence.
              1. -1
                21 February 2020 19: 57
                Well, you see, this news is for some who want not to hear about it. Already received a warning that I am forbidden to leave comments here. Apparently unexpected.
                1. -12
                  21 February 2020 21: 02
                  Quote: zloybond
                  Already got a warning

                  And how do you like, the stereotypes driven into the minds of Kiselev, Soloviev decided to refute! laughing There will be no enemy, they will start asking questions like "where did the doctors go in the country, why did the disaster happen?"
                  laughing
                  1. +5
                    22 February 2020 04: 03
                    Quote: Silvestr
                    Quote: zloybond
                    Already got a warning

                    And how do you like, the stereotypes driven into the minds of Kiselev, Soloviev decided to refute! laughing There will be no enemy, they will start asking questions like "where did the doctors go in the country, why did the disaster happen?"
                    laughing

                    don't like you judging by the cons wink !!!! and are you ready to drown for hohlorem ??? laughing Surely the pseudo-communists have no principles ???
                    1. -1
                      22 February 2020 09: 15
                      Quote: Nikolai the Greek
                      and are you ready to drown for hohlorem ???

                      what kind of beast is this? Where is that written? Dreamer!
                2. -6
                  21 February 2020 21: 12
                  Quote: zloybond
                  Already received a warning that I am forbidden to leave comments here.

                  do not lose heart, this is not for long, I generally have one step to the ban ...
                  1. -6
                    21 February 2020 23: 50
                    Here more often trolls feel easier. tongue They have such a creed))) A little to the right-left with their own opinion, the club from the administration)))) stop And what can you do - it is necessary to form the correct opinion! fool
                3. +4
                  22 February 2020 03: 54
                  Quote: zloybond
                  Well, you see, this news is for some

                  what news ??? what that vna can call in ??? recourse there is simply dubious (for normal people in Russia) the contingent is quietly missed !! I think if you and your kind (who have come for various reasons) on a record where you condemn hohlorezhim with their heroes in the form of Shukhevych and Bandera, you will fall into ukrosizo, we will have a lot of fun here !!! wink at least the rest is adequate here !!! wassat
                  1. -1
                    22 February 2020 08: 40
                    And you don’t think, sit down and eat ... It’s not like in that anecdote about Stirlitz, who was walking with a balalaika and in a shortcut through the bunker.
                    And then we'll talk.
                    And you don’t even know how the transit Ukrainians, who first come to the Russian Federation, are treated at Sheremetyevo. Also worthy! Like in Ukraine.
                    1. +2
                      22 February 2020 21: 01
                      Quote: 30143
                      And you do not think, sit down and eat ...

                      what Why should I go to this trash ??? wassat
                4. -1
                  22 February 2020 15: 55
                  Already received a warning that I am forbidden to leave comments here.

                  Dirty speech is allowed here, but one in ten other people's opinions are only allowed. Censorship.
        3. +12
          21 February 2020 19: 23
          I remember everything, maybe you drove, but I remember a car with a St. George ribbon that the Natsik stopped, and there was a woman in my opinion. This is not good, do not you? Although maybe you shot this tape so that there would be no problems. Or you didn’t have it in your life.
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            1. +20
              21 February 2020 19: 33
              No, I was not a witness, but I saw a video. Enough? And the right sector is my personal enemy.
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                1. +18
                  21 February 2020 19: 57
                  Video on a mobile phone for the purpose of provocation? No, it didn’t come. This office will not survive my enmity. And your interesting people will not survive, are you not enough examples of Ilovaisk, Debaltsev? Do not survive.
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                    1. +18
                      21 February 2020 20: 23
                      My son is there, I was gone, but there are more young people than you can imagine. I don’t need me there, I need a son, but I do not. I do not persuade if the Russian army really goes to you ... you live two days. And this is a very long time - I forgot Mariupol?
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                        1. +3
                          21 February 2020 23: 45
                          Quote: Jeremiah
                          want to make money easy

                          Illustrative comment (
                        2. +2
                          22 February 2020 04: 08
                          Quote: Jeremiah
                          how to die for the Gazprom pipe ...

                          you drown for a pipe of naphtha gas ??? what wassat
                2. ANB
                  +2
                  21 February 2020 23: 44
                  . The right sector is still that office, but there are also interesting people

                  These "interesting" people are already waiting in a very interesting place.
                  1. +2
                    22 February 2020 04: 09
                    Quote: ANB
                    These "interesting" people are already waiting in a very interesting place.

                    there most of it is already dead !! soldier
                3. +2
                  22 February 2020 04: 06
                  Quote: Jeremiah
                  And it never occurred to you that the video was shot for a provocative purpose ?. Who do you call Natsik? If the video is real then what did this lady want to prove? What is not afraid of anything? Well, the demented and the children are also not afraid of anything. So not enough. The right sector is still that office, but there are also interesting people. And your personal enmity, this organization, as it survives)))

                  where do you live ??? what
            2. +9
              21 February 2020 19: 36
              And so, they equalized the right sector and the St. George ribbons.
              why, we have the right sector, in the Crimea, they are preparing terrorist attacks ...
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                        5. +3
                          21 February 2020 22: 54
                          Quote: Jeremiah
                          At your age, you need to be calmer, or God forbid something doesn’t stand it))) Either the cover, or the bottom)) I wish to wait for my son safe and sound. Maybe then wiser ...

                          You son first live to his age! I doubt that I’m smarter ... But you can’t survive trite .... God forbid, of course ... Live and rejoice. Less anger and lesson!
                    2. -17
                      21 February 2020 20: 59
                      Listen to this. Of course, you can throw mutual slogans here. He is for you - you are for him .... But here I read an analytical report on the forecast for the country the other day .... Well, about 45 million ... I was thrown up already .... Hold on tight. Because I was ashamed, just as you would now be for the NUMBERS: In our country, at the moment, there are approximately 76 million women. Subtract old and relatively young and very young, although again, there is teenage prostitution.
                      So: women before and older than working age (before 18 and after 55) - 33 million.
                      Working age - 43 million (Rosstat. Sex and age composition of Russian residents, 2013)
                      And women aged 19-30, in our country - about 15 million (12-17 million, according to various estimates).
                      This age is the most common for women in prostitution.
                      According to official estimates by the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the Russian Federation, more than 1 million women are engaged in prostitution in the Russian Federation.
                      "In Russia, about one million people are engaged in prostitution, said the Deputy Minister of Internal Affairs ... adding that this is only official statistics, but in reality the situation is much worse."
                      But there are other expert assessments: "Chairman of the Constitutional Court Valery Zorkin in an interview with Rossiyskaya Gazeta:" There are 4,5 million prostitutes in Russia. " (HZ where did he get such numbers) ...
                      So about the ribbon: - that way the category will remain on the lists all as one ?????
                      FURTHER:
                      The growing friendship with Turkey and Iran, increasing trade with the countries of Central Asia brought Russia to the top of the world drug trade. Since 2011, drug use in Russia has grown 3,5 times, to $ 60 billion.
                      However, little is funny. Russia accounts for 12% ($ 60 billion) of the total global turnover of hard drugs (see “Classification of Drugs”) and almost a third ($ 20 billion per year) of the world opium market. Since 2011, drug use in Russia has grown 3,5 times. The reasons are the strengthening of friendship with Turkey and Iran, as well as the expansion of trade with the countries of Central Asia, through which heroin from Afghanistan enters Russia.
                      And now about the budget of our Ministry of Defense: 2019: “The military budget of the Ministry of Defense is balanced and meets all the needs of the Armed Forces. Every year, it makes up 2,8% of GDP, which is about $ 46 billion ... less than crime gets from selling drugs to our citizens.
                      I don’t want to continue ... I can still have statistics, but you’re just afraid to send me a curse.
                      ABM as one .... And here we are sitting Pastor discussing.
                      1. -9
                        21 February 2020 21: 11
                        If in Russia there are such officers, then not everything is lost for everyone hi
                        1. -12
                          21 February 2020 21: 26
                          I was just wondering if people would start + - to bet ... and I think - they will vote against statistics or against the truth. It's like bees against honey)))) When an inspection in the department entrusts the performer who needs to be checked .... Like, flog yourself! Not what we do. They distract people with stupidity so that they do not get confused under their feet. The country's security begins with numbers that make everything clear as one or some will be smart and beautiful ...
                        2. +7
                          21 February 2020 22: 00
                          Quote: zloybond
                          I was just wondering if people would start + - to bet ... and I think - they will vote against statistics or against the truth.

                          I won’t even check, briefly - no statistics, no truth
                        3. -5
                          21 February 2020 23: 26
                          Yes, I also did not even check one moment. Just invited to a meeting of communists. There was a conversation about the history of the village in which the meeting took place. They talked for a long time about the hard struggle of the peasants in this village for the victory, so to speak .. and so on. What a difficult life used to be, and so on ... how poor they were peasants. Agitators came from the regional city. He took with him as he felt the little book: the repressive policy of the Soviet government based on the materials of the most secret archives of the former Soviet Union (archive of the Politburo - now the Presidential archive, archive of the FSB), Ivnitsky first created a comprehensive history of repression in the Soviet village in the late 20s and early 30s. x years. Agitated me to get a prat ticket. Well, as it happened, I completely suggested that I turn to the figures))) from the NKVD report. To suppress the meeting in the specified village, a detachment of Red Army soldiers arrived in numbers and so on. So here. According to the report, more than 1600 fist men took part in the uprising. I ask - now the village has 300 souls. And before, only wealthy men came out against the Soviet regime ... Well, the red commander had no ill intent. The figure is evil. Share yours if there are others.
                        4. +2
                          23 February 2020 13: 43
                          Quote: zloybond
                          According to the report, more than 1600 fist men took part in the uprising.

                          Nifiga did not understand about what, but "1600 men" imagine the village? So I can hardly imagine a third of the girls in prostitutes, Russia is not Belarus and not dill, there is something to do without it. There is a figure about prostitutes - there is no composition, and there finally can not be local. Here is the fact of stuffing and manipulating numbers.
                        5. +5
                          22 February 2020 04: 15
                          Quote: poquello
                          I won’t even check, briefly - no statistics, no truth

                          wrong ... hohlostatistka is !!! laughing
                        6. +1
                          25 February 2020 05: 13
                          it’s just interesting to me that people would start + - to set ...

                          the course of your comments is simply interesting.
                          So, in the article about the opinion of one of the organizers of the war in the Donbass, you begin to write:
                          Last summer, by car with Russian numbers, with his wife and two young children, from Moscow to Kiev, then Lviv-Vinnitsa - Odessa, there is rest and back.

                          that is, like in Ukraine everything is fine, everyone lies to you. Well, then there were discussions like "the evil administrators who support the Kiselevo-Soloviev propaganda do not give freedom of expression." Well, then everything fell into place. Because suddenly (how logical it is for an article about the statements of the Ukrainian statesman Turchinov) he began to write statistics “how bad it is in Russia”:
                          Hold on tight. Because I was ashamed just like you would now be for the NUMBERS:

                          Of course you work thinly, but not thin enough laughing
                      2. +6
                        21 February 2020 22: 58
                        Now download the article on alcoholics ... etc. A million prostitutes ... Ofanaret .... What is it you drawn to paid women ...? They don’t like without money? Wash, shave, ... I'm afraid it will not help!
                        1. -9
                          21 February 2020 23: 33
                          I was drawn, because I recently returned from a Muslim country, where I spent a very long time on business. And I was very surprised that there brothels exist the size of a village. That’s such a hypocrisy of morality ... And then there’s just a conversation about 145 million who acted as one. So I’m saying ... and now let's figure it out - We all as one or from the indicated number will subtract those who abstained, because they work on the other side of the barricades. And there I’m sorry, drug traffic, billionaires (werewolves) in uniform, .. By the way, here is drug trafficking with a budget more than that of the Ministry of Defense. And pulled, because being distracted by the pastor, we forget that it’s time for us to begin to understand seriously inside. Because this also applies to the country's defense. A whole army of criminals, about whom they think that they are all as one with us.
                        2. +2
                          22 February 2020 09: 21
                          Quote: zloybond
                          . And pulled, because being distracted by the pastor, we forget that it’s time for us to begin to understand seriously inside. Because this also applies to the country's defense. A whole army of criminals, about whom they think that they are all as one with us.

                          ЦandFrames The numbers are spelled correctly in Russian ....
                          Quote: zloybond
                          or subtract from the indicated number

                          Taki, yes, as I thought you are not respected Svido Soon Troll! The local aborigines have a mishmash from the rules of Ukrainian spelling and Russian ... Therefore, such errors ....Learn Russian language dear man! It is necessary in your work !!!
                  2. -1
                    21 February 2020 21: 12
                    The war in the head begins.
                    1. +3
                      22 February 2020 04: 17
                      Quote: SanSanych Gusev
                      The war in the head begins.

                      Svidamity so cherished the country ... and they’re scribbling here !!!!!!!! request
                  3. +3
                    22 February 2020 04: 11
                    Quote: Jeremiah
                    I do not need anyone's pity. precisely because I remember my ancestors. And the attitude of today's Russia to the St. George ribbon is very illusive. You can declare yourself the successor of the Roman Empire, but in fact ......

                    then admins would help us - who puts the pluses to you ?? !!! what admins, prick !!! laughing
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                1. +14
                  21 February 2020 20: 13
                  and you did not think that you need to answer for yourself, and not refer to the notorious Dag? it’s not our people who are burned in the houses of trade unions and stoned evacuated from Wuhan, not our bandera on the state. level in the heroes ...
                  why can't you for the most part recognize this?
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                    1. +3
                      22 February 2020 04: 21
                      Quote: Jeremiah
                      So rejoice and do not meddle where you are not called ...

                      and where didn’t they call us ???
                      Quote: Jeremiah
                      And why not refer to the Dag with the Chechens or are they already Russian and controlled.

                      better not to anger them !!! wassat
                2. +3
                  22 February 2020 04: 19
                  Quote: Jeremiah
                  and Dougie sausages are fried

                  Our doug fry you in boilers !!! wassat soldier and not a current ... whom you considered to be Chechens, they were Ossetians ... well, and the Chechens finally fucked you !!! wassat
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            3. +14
              21 February 2020 20: 13
              Well, if you compare the flag of the right-wingers with the St. George ribbon, then you need to fill the swastika on your forehead.
              Yes, and pravoseki will not survive. Surely the time will come and normal Ukrainians will break their ridges. Here is stopudovo!
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              2. +3
                22 February 2020 04: 23
                Quote: ochakow703
                . Surely the time will come and normal Ukrainians will break their ridges. Here is stopudovo!

                at nothing you hope, but for the rest optimism I'm with you !!! wassat the primary task is to return the lands of the Russian Empire !!!
            4. +4
              22 February 2020 01: 27
              Quote: Jeremiah
              In Russia, Ukrainian cars with the flag of the Right Sector probably also do not drive.


              Dear, do not confuse chlorine with calcium and something with a finger. For you, the guards tape and the Nazi black and red rag are equal in value? Then you got to the wrong portal. We have Russians here - descendants of the winners.
              1. +4
                22 February 2020 04: 24
                Quote: Lelek
                Quote: Jeremiah
                In Russia, Ukrainian cars with the flag of the Right Sector probably also do not drive.


                Dear, do not confuse chlorine with calcium and something with a finger. For you, the guards tape and the Nazi black and red rag are equal in value? Then you got to the wrong portal. We have Russians here - descendants of the winners.

                to whom do you explain this ??? !!!
          2. +2
            21 February 2020 19: 34
            Let's decide. In their own country their laws. At least a ribbon, at least wear a flag. I am also enraged by the LGBT flag at the Ambassadors. But something none of our leaders thinks that it’s time for the ambassador representing his country to go home for a provocation. And when you go with family and children in a strange monastery, think with your head what you are doing and what you are risking. You are driving alone. Although you draw a flag on your forehead and do tattoos on your shoulders, general’s - this is your business. And to see what and how is possible without a patriotic screech. Take a car, lift your body and go. This is not so expensive. And sitting and rassusolivat about the presence of ribbons in a warm apartment - this is not heroism. It was also strange for me to meet in the capital of clowns from Ukraine with a fascist swastika on their bodies. After the conversation, it turned out that the guys from the ATO. I’m thinking - our border guards, they really smoked something when these sheep crossed the border ????? Not about ribbons, you need to chat, but really look around.
            1. -13
              21 February 2020 19: 52
              Just delete my account if the information does not fit
              1. +3
                22 February 2020 01: 17
                And where did you get the idea that there is information in your posts ???
            2. +4
              22 February 2020 04: 26
              Quote: zloybond
              Let's decide. In their own country their laws.

              German fascists thought the same way !! you tell me, are you really a rotten person or just pretend to be ???
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          1. -13
            21 February 2020 19: 49
            It’s just that the situations are tiring when there is nothing to write - they start to write about how some dead pastor suddenly scared and spewed out stupidity. I believe that any sayings of these ... I don’t know what to call so as not to be banned ... In short, this should be a taboo topic for writing any articles about these citizens at all. What are they hammering over there. We have more important things that the head should hurt about. In general, I think such article authors are simply unprofessional, but recruited by advertisement so that they regularly give at least something to the mountain. For each nonsense - an article. They generally need to be silent - they are dead.
        5. +8
          21 February 2020 20: 14
          Given the fact that male citizens of the age of 18 to 60 are not allowed into the territory of Ukraine, you are either less than 18 or more than 60. At 17 you are unlikely to have two young children, and after 60 children under 40 should be! Something is wrong here.
          1. -17
            21 February 2020 20: 26
            I am 45. I am an officer. I think you need to ask questions to a psychologist if you believe in all the nonsense that you are urged to believe in. Most of the people I know (and my friends) wear epaulets on both sides of the border. And from that side naturally I was met and escorted shoulder straps too. It's just that everything is much easier than they are trying to tell you.
            1. +5
              22 February 2020 04: 34
              Quote: zloybond
              I am an officer

              made fun of !!! laughing in Nazi Germany they also called themselves !!! wink
            2. +7
              22 February 2020 07: 29
              I’m 55 and I’m also an retired officer, major, an employee of the MUR and that’s why they don’t let me into Ukraine, although I was born there, my brother and sister live there and the graves of my ancestors are also there! It is you who call me to believe in that nonsense that you carry!
            3. +1
              25 February 2020 05: 27
              zloybond (steppenwolf) February 21, 2020 20:26

              And from that side, naturally, they met me and escorted shoulder straps too. It's just that everything is much easier than they are trying to tell you.

              but much easier. These are your "shoulder straps from the other side"
              (and my friends)

              not at all embarrassed, they lay from the heavy ones in Donetsk and its suburbs. The killing of civilians is not visible to them, nor does it seem anything scary to you
          2. -1
            21 February 2020 21: 07
            Quote: adam khomich
            male citizens of the age of 18 to 60 are not allowed into the territory of Ukraine,

            It’s strange how did my colleague 35 years old with a Russian passport go to Kharkov for the New Year? Are you lying?
            1. +4
              22 February 2020 04: 36
              Quote: Silvestr
              Are you lying?

              no matter ... he is most likely the same "communist" as you are - and you are all like ukrokommunists !!! wink
              1. 0
                22 February 2020 09: 11
                Quote: Nikolai the Greek
                the same "communist" as in

                35 years old communist. When did the party end?
            2. +1
              22 February 2020 16: 55
              Aeto you ask him!
        6. +7
          21 February 2020 20: 36
          Can I not really believe you?
          Everything is so rosy and pastoral with you.
          Didn't the police stop even once?
          Well, do not believe it.
          1. -4
            21 February 2020 21: 13
            You won’t believe ... Braked. But I write accompanied honestly. But the fact is the fact - people work. Because the cars are shipped back and forth, we nevertheless receive the equipment we need, they also not only equipment but also money from our geniuses of the gas giant (do not forget about the prizes of these geniuses) - And much more works. The will of the military was weak - I think the flags changed a long time ago (I’m afraid the pastor of the article says these words will diarrhea for a long time) —but there is politics and you have to yell at this and that corner. There is nothing rosy there. I just said about the train that everything is a bit different from fairy tales.
            1. 0
              21 February 2020 21: 18
              OK. Accepted.
          2. -1
            21 February 2020 23: 24
            Quote: demo
            Not even the police stopped

            Busting, you need to know the laws. Fingers skated on the border, on the platform in Kharkov there should be a meeting person. You can repeat this train, now you know the main points
        7. +7
          21 February 2020 21: 57
          Quote: zloybond
          Dai on his way back through Lugansk visited the grave of the dead Cossacks, where a friend who died at the beginning of this shed is buried ....

          With the Russian numbers from Russia to the square and vice versa, yes with children, yes through Lugansk ....! Aw, well done! How did the border go? Or are you an older parent over 60? To others - only on calls that also need to be proved! And how did the checkpoint with LPR pass? Previously, in order to get into LDNR, even local people need permission to take in order to go to relatives. Or traveled around the minefields when the DRG APU corridor made? Think that you are writing, not everyone here is from Russia, who can blow freely in your ears!
          1. +5
            22 February 2020 04: 43
            Quote: businessv
            Quote: zloybond
            Dai on his way back through Lugansk visited the grave of the dead Cossacks, where a friend who died at the beginning of this shed is buried ....

            With the Russian numbers from Russia to the square and vice versa, yes with children, yes through Lugansk ....! Aw, well done! How did the border go? Or are you an older parent over 60? To others - only on calls that also need to be proved! And how did the checkpoint with LPR pass? Previously, in order to get into LDNR, even local people need permission to take in order to go to relatives. Or traveled around the minefields when the DRG APU corridor made? Think that you are writing, not everyone here is from Russia, who can blow freely in your ears!

            he could spit on the flag of Russia on the numbers and yell about the glory that Ukraine will never reach in any way !! laughing like there !!! wink
          2. +1
            22 February 2020 16: 56
            yes yap it !!!
        8. +7
          21 February 2020 22: 10
          I do not believe! On pi ........ flattery looks like! I live in (in) Ukrainian.
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        10. +7
          21 February 2020 22: 48
          Quote: zloybond
          Yes! Indeed, what they write on the fields of the Internet is completely inconsistent with the real situation of the neighbors. Last summer, by car with Russian numbers, with his wife and two young children, from Moscow to Kiev, then Lviv-Vinnitsa - Odessa, there is rest and back. On the way back, the truth was that the car broke down and I had to leave it and go home by the engine. Well, after that, he will return alone for the car ... Dai on the way back through Lugansk visited the grave of the dead Cossacks, where a friend who died at the beginning of this shed is buried .... Well, what am I doing all this ???? People! Before writing, spitting, throwing slippers .... cheers, cheers, cheers ... and so on ... you still need to have the courage to see: what's inside? So sometimes it throws up from people who simply work out and bend someone’s line.

          Of course the situation is strange. On the one hand, a fascinating journey by car in Ukraine .. On the other hand, my good friend's wife's sister, pregnant, died at the eighth month in the Luhansk region .. They killed at art. shelling, heavy, with a stomach could not escape ... Everyone was able to reach the shelter, but she did not have time ... His wife said - "I will not give birth in Ukraine!" Now they live in Sevastopol ... This is by the way and complacency and peacefulness ... And the father and brother of the deceased young pregnant woman went to fight for the Lugansk People's Republic ... What else can I add ... It's a shame that the brother went to the brother. And the line has been bent for a long time, since the beginning of Independence ... If the Svidomye had not been bent, there would not have been this Ukraine now, dual and torn by contradictions.
          1. +5
            22 February 2020 04: 46
            Quote: 30 vis
            that brother went to brother

            it’s so in LDNR they think (by the way, in vain ... it’s time for them to put packs of Svidamites already) !!! ragul destroys the type of Russian invaders without a twinge of conscience !!!
            P.S .. Western degenerates are in power right now and have established the atmosphere that was during the seizure of those areas by Nazi Germany !!! am
        11. +6
          22 February 2020 00: 10
          Quote: zloybond
          what they write on the fields of the Internet is completely inconsistent with the real situation of the neighbors

          Do not lie. I know the situation in Ukraine firsthand. For St. George’s ribbon, Svidomo patriots will break their heads, and for Russian numbers, and even in Western Ukraine, they will do how to give a life-long disabled person.
          1. 0
            22 February 2020 17: 00
            You describe the situation absolutely correctly.
        12. +5
          22 February 2020 03: 44
          Quote: zloybond
          Yes! Indeed, what they write on the fields of the Internet is completely inconsistent with the real situation of the neighbors. Last summer, by car with Russian numbers, with his wife and two young children, from Moscow to Kiev, then Lviv-Vinnitsa - Odessa, there is rest and back. On the way back, the truth was that the car broke down and I had to leave it and go home by the engine. Well, after that, he will return alone for the car ... Dai on the way back through Lugansk visited the grave of the dead Cossacks, where a friend who died at the beginning of this shed is buried .... Well, what am I doing all this ???? People! Before writing, spitting, throwing slippers .... cheers, cheers, cheers ... and so on ... you still need to have the courage to see: what's inside? So sometimes it throws up from people who simply work out and bend someone’s line.

          you could not compose something better ?? !!! laughing
        13. +1
          22 February 2020 15: 51
          Lucky. Our went to see the friends of the Nazis. He returned as an invalid, friends were beaten and money was withdrawn from the account. Since then, this Maidan defender has not been shown on the forum :)
        14. 0
          24 February 2020 11: 43
          Well, what's inside? I do not understand from your words.
      2. 0
        21 February 2020 19: 18
        Ochkanul, in Russia there are a lot of those who have relatives in Ukraine ... He and Co. would be put on a stake on Sq. them Lenin in Kiev broadcast to the whole world. ISIS after that simply could not collect likes ...
        Scored, but not for this reason. So all dissenting people would be declared Russian swordsmen and caught, as during the Maidan / Anti-Maidan.
        1. +1
          21 February 2020 21: 09
          Round, he has a nickname like this ... you need to bring him down Brother wassat
      3. 0
        21 February 2020 19: 34
        No, they just couldn’t figure out how to act - first declare war and then run away or vice versa ...
      4. +4
        21 February 2020 19: 34
        He signed a decree on the ATO, all the blood shed in the Donbass - on his hands. Once a pastor, then it will burn in hell.
        1. +3
          22 February 2020 04: 51
          Quote: TermNachTER
          then it will burn in hell.

          whenaaaaaa ??? and who will send him there?
          1. 0
            22 February 2020 15: 50
            We will all be there and we will answer for our own affairs.
        2. 0
          22 February 2020 16: 06
          This pastor, Putin and Medvedev have become believers. Changeling.
      5. 0
        21 February 2020 19: 54
        What martial law, if their own army was beaten, besides the Natsik fanatics were also foreign mercenaries? Army visibility only a couple of years ago began to sculpt feverishly.
        1. +5
          21 February 2020 20: 23
          What an army. There, soldiers of an elite presidential regiment pass out right under the cameras. For window dressing and serving Negroes at the training grounds, they hold a battalion of less-equipped bogeys, while the rest feed them in the trenches of lice and engage in robberies of the peacehouse, since there is nothing to eat.
      6. +1
        21 February 2020 20: 18
        Yes, because they pissed everything! I have a friend - a surveyor - a Ukrainian. Sometimes we argue with him, so he said that if Ukraine had a president like Putin or Lukashenko, Ukraine would have lived better than us! Says they were unlucky with the presidents
        1. +4
          22 February 2020 04: 56
          Quote: karabass
          Yes, because they pissed everything! I have a friend - a surveyor - a Ukrainian. Sometimes we argue with him, so he said that if Ukraine had a president like Putin or Lukashenko, Ukraine would have lived better than us! Says they were unlucky with the presidents

          finally they with such slogans disconnected from the USSR ... send your friend on a long journey !!! lol
        2. 0
          22 February 2020 17: 04
          Fool your friend, so tell him!. Primitively thinking fool.
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      8. +3
        22 February 2020 03: 39
        Quote: PSih2097
        Ochkanul, in Russia there are a lot of those who have relatives in Ukraine ...

        Interestingly, they are ashamed of their relatives VNA Ukraine or they say that they are enslaved by the Nazis? !!! lol
        Quote: PSih2097
        He and Co. would be put on a stake on Sq. them Lenin in Kiev with broadcast to the whole world

        when and who ??? you precisely own info with vna ??? fool negative
        Quote: PSih2097
        ISIS would then be nothing with its head banging ...

        these did not seem to burn people, after having driven them into the room !!!
        why are you at odds with reality? !!! am

        Interestingly, you have a political affair plus or what ???
    2. +5
      21 February 2020 19: 07
      Well, they ate fire. it turns out why. directly made happy. we thought it was just scary, but it turns out there it is))))
    3. +1
      21 February 2020 19: 08
      Turchinov did not dare to declare war on Russia due to the presence of nuclear weapons in Moscow. This - according to the "pastor" himself

      I forgot what they call particularly wise eccentrics ... uh ... can someone tell me?
      1. +2
        21 February 2020 21: 35
        Poltorak "Debaltsevsky" and Geleta "Ilovaisky" from special laughing
    4. +4
      21 February 2020 19: 11
      It hurts Russia, you need to boil well in your Russophobian adder.
      1. +11
        21 February 2020 19: 44
        Would declare war, there would be no help from the IMF. There would be no help from the IMF, there would be nothing to steal. There wouldn’t be anything to steal, then why was it necessary to arrange all this bucha with Maidan and redistribution of property laughing
    5. Alf
      +7
      21 February 2020 19: 12
      Lord, are the news from the country of frightened shareware not yet tired? Already sick of their delirium.
      1. +4
        21 February 2020 19: 15
        Well, it’s curious to what stage of this nonsense they can reach) I just want to understand if there is still a bottom there)
        1. Alf
          +4
          21 February 2020 19: 16
          Quote: carstorm 11
          Well, it’s curious to what stage of this nonsense they can reach) I just want to understand if there is still a bottom there)

          I’m more interested in how deep our bottom and negative growth can reach our effective managers.
        2. +12
          21 February 2020 19: 18
          The collapse of the country - this will be the bottom of Ukraine.
          1. +2
            21 February 2020 20: 47
            Its most natural result. And yet, Crimea has already sailed away, Donbass has sailed away, let's see how much the rest of the walk-field will last.
    6. +1
      21 February 2020 19: 13
      I don’t even know what to call him, that they wouldn’t slam another ban. Think for yourself.
      1. -1
        21 February 2020 19: 46
        Quote: Fedorov

        I don’t even know what to call him, that they wouldn’t slam another ban. Think for yourself.

        "Hitler aha, Berlin kyrdyk. Wah-Wah-Wah genosse Bormann". More or less like this.
    7. +6
      21 February 2020 19: 13
      "Turchinov told why Ukraine did not declare war on Russia" Because what they fidget about in their chair is not iron! And all the rest is blah, blah, for the sake of increasing your own importance or rating!
    8. +11
      21 February 2020 19: 17
      that this Baptist face is still alive, and not only this, obvious flaw in the Russian special services.
    9. 0
      21 February 2020 19: 17
      Here to explain after, no problem. Not only in Russia, a man is strong in hindsight. Although, a Ukrainian peasant from a Russian, even a genetic examination will not distinguish.
      1. +2
        22 February 2020 05: 12
        Quote: Mikhail M
        Although, a Ukrainian peasant from a Russian, even a genetic examination will not distinguish.

        come on???? you events since 2014 did not shed light on the differences between Russians and "Ukrainians" ??? fool
    10. 0
      21 February 2020 19: 23
      Eco as a bloody pastor bent, and so would poper.
    11. +2
      21 February 2020 19: 26
      The pastor did not ski well. And they have been waging war for the sixth year quietly ...
      1. -2
        21 February 2020 19: 49
        Quote: Dzafdet
        And they have been waging war for the sixth year quietly ..

        But they themselves are not aware of this.
    12. +10
      21 February 2020 19: 28
      He is seriously trying to hint that the Russian Federation would start to bombard UA with atomic bombs?! .. Is it a great honor?
      This is from the series: well, something needs to be fucked! ..
      1. +2
        22 February 2020 05: 15
        Quote: Petrol cutter
        that the Russian Federation would begin to throw atomic bombs at UA ?!

        one could .. how else to destroy the Nazism virus ?? request
    13. +3
      21 February 2020 19: 30
      And THIS is why here ... p-fe.
    14. +2
      21 February 2020 19: 31
      For him, our nuclear weapons are an excuse. I got cold feet (to put it mildly). And without him, the RA would have "rolled" the Natsiks.
    15. +7
      21 February 2020 19: 31
      It’s strange. And in Ukraine for 6 years they believe that they are at war with Russia
      1. +1
        21 February 2020 19: 43
        their imagination is highly developed, but it seems to say that the chip with their people will not pass.
      2. +2
        21 February 2020 20: 09
        But Russia is meanly is not at war.
      3. +3
        22 February 2020 05: 19
        Quote: Galina Schreder
        It’s strange. And in Ukraine for 6 years they believe that they are at war with Russia

        at the same time, they believe that burning people is normal !!! am
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    17. +3
      21 February 2020 19: 40
      You would be rolled into asphalt without the use of nuclear weapons, durik.
      1. +3
        22 February 2020 05: 21
        Quote: Normal
        You would be rolled into the asphalt

        what for??? is there anyone to harness ??? what everyone likes everything there !!! request it’s good that in 2014 the troops didn’t move there !!! feel
        1. +1
          22 February 2020 09: 34
          Your truth, I agree.
    18. +2
      21 February 2020 19: 40
      Yes, they were bent even without nuclear, when the order was received, the shots with broken Ukrainian equipment are already textbooks.
    19. 0
      21 February 2020 19: 41
      Pasteur gave the barrier a little back. Or maybe Ukraine would not have pulled out wars with the Russian Federation? even without nuclear weapons!
    20. 0
      21 February 2020 19: 42
      After a couple of minutes, the valiant APU, hoping to eat and rest normally, would begin to give up all over?
    21. +4
      21 February 2020 19: 52
      Turchinov did not dare to declare war on Russia because of the presence of nuclear weapons in Moscow. This is in the words of the "pastor" himself.

      So it would be yes, if there hadn’t been nuclear weapons in the Russian Federation, then Turchinov, His Holiness the Zadoliki RF would have slammed his hand.
      He could simply say that they did not declare war on the Russian Federation because they were generous and did not want to smash the Russian hordes of ako cockroaches.
      I think it’s just wonderful, God-level hat-thrower.
      1. +3
        22 February 2020 05: 25
        Quote: Voletsky
        Turchinov did not dare to declare war on Russia because of the presence of nuclear weapons in Moscow. This is in the words of the "pastor" himself.

        So it would be yes, if there hadn’t been nuclear weapons in the Russian Federation, then Turchinov, His Holiness the Zadoliki RF would have slammed his hand.
        He could simply say that they did not declare war on the Russian Federation because they were generous and did not want to smash the Russian hordes of ako cockroaches.
        I think it’s just wonderful, God-level hat-thrower.

        you would learn to express your thoughts normally !!! wink If you were the commander in chief, it would not be completely clear after your speech who to go to fight for !!! laughing
        1. +1
          22 February 2020 13: 40
          how to fight for whom ?! Stop militarism !!!
          I have for him the tasks of a peaceful order, to cut down a forest - to lay down a forest, cutting a clearing on the way to sunny Magadan.
          My task is to build, eternal, kind, bright !!! :)
    22. +2
      21 February 2020 19: 53
      Oh, you, the yak crawled out from under the driftwood! But one smart thought cannot be denied to him: "It is not profitable to fight with Russia and in general it is not the best idea." It's a pity that she came late ...
    23. +1
      21 February 2020 19: 56
      During a visit to Ukraine, Mike Pompeo explained where Ukraine’s place in the multipolar world laughing
      Trump will arrive at the parade on May 9 in Moscow.
    24. -4
      21 February 2020 20: 08
      As for declaring war on Russia, Turchinov reasonably remarked that getting involved in a war with a nuclear power is not a good idea — has a friend lost his mind?
      1. +3
        22 February 2020 05: 28
        Quote: Lamata
        that get involved in a war with a nuclear power

        and with non-nuclear Russia would he have any chances ?! laughing
        1. -3
          22 February 2020 07: 09
          Yes, cheeks would blow more !!!
    25. -3
      21 February 2020 20: 10
      Quote: zloybond
      Yes! Indeed, what they write on the fields of the Internet is completely inconsistent with the real situation of the neighbors. Last summer, by car with Russian numbers, with his wife and two young children, from Moscow to Kiev, then Lviv-Vinnitsa - Odessa, there is rest and back. On the way back, the truth was that the car broke down and I had to leave it and go home by the engine. Well, after that, he will return alone for the car ... Dai on the way back through Lugansk visited the grave of the dead Cossacks, where a friend who died at the beginning of this shed is buried .... Well, what am I doing all this ???? People! Before writing, spitting, throwing slippers .... cheers, cheers, cheers ... and so on ... you still need to have the courage to see: what's inside? So sometimes it throws up from people who simply work out and bend someone’s line.

      At least something else and similar to the truth. And the bastards immediately minus signs began to libel. Nothing. We’ll check in the spring, I’m driving it to Lugansk.
    26. 0
      21 February 2020 20: 29
      Quote: tihonmarine
      Quote: Giena
      They would have hung it right away, but it’s too rude and costly .. And as long as it lives and thanks for the Crimea!

      Why are you so angry? In zoos, animals are not killed.

      Well, why? In Denmark, a publicly unhappy giraffe was killed and fed to lions with children.
    27. 0
      21 February 2020 20: 36
      As for declaring war on Russia, Turchinov reasonably remarked that getting involved in a war with a nuclear power is not a good idea.

    28. +3
      21 February 2020 20: 44
      You might think that Ukraine, and without taking into account nuclear weapons, has a chance against the Russian Federation ... Svidomo themselves flatter themselves ...
    29. 0
      21 February 2020 20: 53
      ))) Fighters, scream.
    30. +5
      21 February 2020 21: 04
      Oh, how ... They’ve been fighting for six years, but declaring war is wet in the port. But then, if they announce, Russia can really come to war. And this is fluffy and northern all the skakuasii wholesale. So all that remains is to trynd, but it’s a contradiction to itself. laughing
    31. 0
      21 February 2020 21: 39
      As for declaring war on Russia, Turchinov reasonably remarked that getting involved in a war with a nuclear power is not a good idea.
      This one with a chicken ass for a mouth does not understand other reasons than "money" and "place"! If in 2014 our leadership had enough courage, then today we would have already cooperated with the new country of Novorossia with a population of 17 million!
      1. +3
        22 February 2020 05: 37
        Quote: businessv
        today we would already cooperate with the new country of Novorossia with 17 million people!

        sure??? looking at today's passivity of the overwhelming majority of VNA inhabitants, I wouldn’t be so zealous in your place !!! wink laughing
    32. -5
      21 February 2020 21: 54
      Russia formally recognizes the independence of the former Soviet republics, but if they suddenly look somewhere to the side, then "your independence is no longer independence." And they will look at anyone, because, firstly, such a position threatens the existence of Russia's neighbors, and secondly, the Russian Federation simply does not have a development project and ideology that the EU has and the United States has. For these simple reasons, it does. And the "crazy Banderas" who constantly shouted that it was necessary to join NATO so that Russia would not take the territories, in the end turned out to be also right, and the Russians look at Ukraine and think "damn it, why did they become so pro-Western in Ukraine, were allies! "
      1. 0
        21 February 2020 23: 18
        Well, Ukraine looked there, and did it become better to live?
      2. +2
        22 February 2020 05: 42
        Quote: Karaul14
        but if they suddenly look somewhere to the side, then "your independence is no longer independence

        return the territory and go wherever you want !! wink judging by how you write the name of the countries, you are on the side of ragul !!! laughing Crazy Bandera when your khataskraynyh relatives will be killed, pzhl no offense in the direction of Russia !!! tongue laughing
        1. -3
          24 February 2020 02: 00
          Quote: Nikolai the Greek
          return the territory and go wherever you want !!
          Russia did not ask for the return of territories and recognized Ukraine as independent, together with Crimea, from the moment of the collapse of the USSR until 2014 + Budapest Memorandum. It turns out that Russia does not fulfill its treaties and is unable to negotiate. But then there are a lot of questions, why there are only enemies around, why even Belarus does not want integration, and the answer to them is given from the TV - "because they are all bad, and we are good."
      3. 0
        23 February 2020 00: 30
        Quote: Karaul14
        development project and ideology that the EU has and the USA has

        And do not tell me more about this, colleague? Something new, or all the same - about money for armaments, the enemies of democracy in the person of Russia and China, and same-sex marriage?
    33. +1
      21 February 2020 21: 57
      in the 14th it was necessary to scum and another 5-7 figures to put on mincemeat and the junta would end.
      why do we help Syria, but did not help Ukraine, which was under external control?
      sanctions scared?
      and so have introduced and are constantly introducing new ones, if that.
      1. +1
        22 February 2020 05: 48
        Quote: patron
        in the 14th it was necessary

        to whom ??
        Quote: patron
        mince

        why not let ??? what well, or at least your relatives didn’t let Chechnya go to Ukraine ??? recourse
        Quote: patron
        why are we helping syria

        because they asked for it !!! because there the majority stood up and began to fight against terrorists !! fool
        Quote: patron
        but did not help Ukraine

        because we must wean from the hataskray !!! Really you have enough brains only for these slogans ??? !!!! what PS ... since 2014, you have been fighting in the trenches of LDNR or what ??? wassat
    34. 0
      21 February 2020 22: 03
      Ukraine declared war on Russia and exists only for this. They live so that neither the Russian Federation nor the Former Ukrainian SSR without the Crimea and the Donbass (BU SSR BKD) would bulo.
    35. ANB
      +2
      21 February 2020 23: 52
      Quote: Jeremiah
      If in Russia there are such officers, then not everything is lost for everyone hi

      No, there are none. And this one doesn't look like an officer.
      So relax and keep believing about the bridge on Mosfilm, cartoons and "Raska FS".
      Yes, and about the worlds too.
    36. ANB
      +1
      21 February 2020 23: 56
      Quote: Karaul14
      Russia formally recognizes the independence of the former Soviet republics, but if they suddenly look somewhere to the side, then "your independence is no longer independence." And they will look at anyone, because, firstly, such a position threatens the existence of Russia's neighbors, and secondly, the Russian Federation simply does not have a development project and ideology that the EU has and the United States has. For these simple reasons, it does. And the "crazy Banderas" who constantly shouted that it was necessary to join NATO so that Russia would not take the territories, in the end turned out to be also right, and the Russians look at Ukraine and think "damn it, why did they become so pro-Western in Ukraine, were allies! "

      The USA also nervously perceives pro-Russian countries in America.
      In NATO, no one was going to accept Ukraine and is not going to.
      1. +1
        22 February 2020 00: 51
        Quote: ANB
        In NATO, no one was going to accept Ukraine and is not going to.

        It's a pity. That would blow up the organization.
    37. 0
      22 February 2020 01: 02
      The slobbering pastor is "liquid gray" .. I would say bluntly - It is better to cut IMF trenches than to hang out in a noose.
    38. 0
      22 February 2020 01: 11
      It's shorter laughing
    39. -2
      22 February 2020 03: 42
      Che write statements uttered? We have that the early statements of Hitler or Pinochet were printed.
    40. 0
      22 February 2020 03: 48
      )))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))) )))
      not reading above
    41. 0
      22 February 2020 04: 12
      - "according to the" pastor "himself. - what" god "does this ghoul serve !? Although such servants have only one god - power and money.
    42. 0
      22 February 2020 04: 21
      Quote: patron
      in the 14th it was necessary to scum and another 5-7 figures to put on mincemeat and the junta would end.
      why do we help Syria, but did not help Ukraine, which was under external control?
      sanctions scared?
      and so have introduced and are constantly introducing new ones, if that.

      - "Shaw again ?!" so everything was designed for this, let's rush to help and then all the "friends" from her to fight off, ie hang this bedlam on their neck, and they are very good at sitting on the neck of their older brother. Then we would have been a complete tryndets !!!
    43. +1
      22 February 2020 06: 25
      Russia is full of guano. In the USSR, such scum, "once" destroyed. O. Kalugin, disgusting lice, hid until recently at the American military base. He knew, bastard, that he could go to another world. SVR has always been able to work
    44. 0
      22 February 2020 11: 25
      Bastard guzno, this gnida unleashed a war.
      I hope he will someday be lifted up on a pillar, a sectarian.
    45. 0
      22 February 2020 13: 18
      Yes, you would have washed without nuclear weapons.
    46. 0
      23 February 2020 06: 09
      Quote: Nikolai Grek
      Quote: 30143
      And you do not think, sit down and eat ...

      what Why should I go to this trash ??? wassat

      And why then at VO to discuss and talk about the HAZARD?
    47. 0
      24 February 2020 12: 08
      Bring in and go to Canada, there you will write memoirs about your struggle with the "Soviets", like the predecessors from RUN ...

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