Thousands of kilometers of tracks and obstacles. "Athlete" is being tested


Experienced Athlete in a Multipurpose Configuration


In recent years, our country has developed a number of promising armored vehicles for various purposes. The main creator of such equipment is the Military Industrial Company, and its main novelty now can be considered the Athlete machine, which was first introduced last year at the Army 2019 forum. Currently, this armored car is undergoing various tests.

Preliminary tests


During the first open display at the exhibition, it was stated that the prototypes of the Athletes would be tested in the very near future. Soon, the "military-industrial complex" clarified the timing of these events. Preliminary tests began on August 5. At this stage, the prototypes of the armored car in two versions — the special ASN and the multi-purpose AMN-2 — were to be tested.

The tests were held with the participation of representatives of the armed forces, research organizations and units from the military-industrial complex. The basis for the events was the training centers of the Scientific Research Center for Automotive Engineering in Bronnitsy, the Scientific Research Institute of Armored Vehicles (Kubinka) and the US.

First of all, the running characteristics of the equipment were checked. Experienced Athletes traveled thousands of kilometers on various routes of various kinds and with various obstacles. The behavior on water barriers was investigated. Also checked the performance in the entire range of specified climatic conditions.


As part of these tests, checks were made on the level of protection of the armored car. To confirm the claimed characteristics, it was planned to conduct tests of shelling and detonation.

At the end of November, the Zvezda TV channel showed the next issue of the Military Acceptance program called the Athlete Armored Car. The hero on wheels. " It showed interesting shots from running, climatic and other tests of experimental equipment carried out in previous months.

New stages


In early December last year, the TASS news agency, citing the VPK press service, revealed details of ongoing work on the Athlete. At that time, part of the activities was completed, and the start of new ones was expected.

At that time, the development company was completing preliminary tests of the armored car. One of the prototypes was disassembled in order to study the technical condition and refinement of the structure. The condition of the second was not specified, but his further fate could be unenviable. For November-December, tests of this prototype were planned to be fired and detonated, aimed at determining the real level of protection.


The interior of the five-door armored car

After these events, the military-industrial complex was about to begin preparations for state trials. The start of this phase was outlined for spring. It was planned to conduct events with the help of the first prototype. By the beginning of the tests, it should be assembled back with the restoration of technical readiness and design improvements according to the test results.

Is armor strong?


February 21, the press service of the military-industrial complex and TASS reported on testing the protection of the armored car. At the training ground of one of the research organizations, an experienced Athlete was blown up, fired upon, and other influences typical of a combat situation.

As part of these tests, the car was fired using ammunition corresponding to the calculated level of protection, and explosions were carried out under the vehicle and next to it. Also tested the resistance of the armored car to arson using a fire mixture. An experienced “Athlete” completed all the checks and confirmed the calculated characteristics.

"VPK" specified indicators of armored car protection. Ballistic protection is able to withstand the hit of a 7,62 mm armor-piercing rifle bullet. Mine protection saves the crew from 2 kg of TNT under the wheel or underbody. Such characteristics will not allow attributing the "Athlete" to the class of MRAP, but distinguish it from the previous "Tiger". Compared with the latest level of protection, "Athlete" is many times higher.

Again for testing


The development company reports that the Athlet project is being finalized in accordance with the comments of the Ministry of Defense made on the basis of preliminary tests. At the same time, the technical readiness of experienced equipment is being restored, which will again go to the landfill.


State trials of the "Athlete" will begin in May. The timing of their completion has not yet been specified. Previous events in the framework of this project suggest that the main activities will be completed by the end of the year. The armored car will have to reaffirm its characteristics, and after that the issues of adoption into service will be decided.

The developer company believes that the armored car "Athlete", having confirmed its characteristics, will be able to find application in the Russian army or in power structures. Also, such a machine may be of interest to foreign countries.

Perspective sample


The Athlete project proposes the construction of a biaxial multipurpose armored car capable of transporting people and goods or carrying special equipment. The armored car is considered as an addition or replacement for the existing "Tiger", which is characterized by increased characteristics - primarily protection.

At the moment, there are two versions of the “Athlete” with a different design of the armored hull. The case with bulletproof and anti-splinter protection can have a set of three or five doors. The three-door ASN car is considered as a special vehicle, the five-door AMN-2 as a multi-purpose one. In terms of protection, both modifications are identical.


Climatic tests of equipment

The payload of the car is 1600 kg with the possibility of bringing up to 2500 kg. The habitable compartment holds up to eight people, including the driver. All cab configurations include a front row of seats with driver and commander seats. The placement of the remaining fighters may be different. For example, the AMN-2 modification provides for two seats near the rear side doors and several seats in the rear of the cab. The landing can use personal weaponusing loopholes in the glazing.

The armored car is equipped with the Yaroslavl diesel engine YaMZ-5347-24 power of 240 hp The transmission provides four-wheel drive. Machine weight approx. 9 t develops on the highway a speed of at least 120 km / h, range - 1000 km. It was previously mentioned that in the future, “Athlete” can get a new more powerful engine. As a result of this, the main characteristics will grow, including carrying capacity.

"Athlete" is a universal platform suitable for the installation of various equipment or weapons. On the roof can be mounted remotely controlled combat modules of different models with one or another weapon - at the request of the customer. In the future, the appearance of specialized modifications with special equipment. Mentioned the possible development of a civilian version of the chassis.

It is not known whether the Athlete will be able to get into service, although the situation as a whole is optimistic. It is also not yet clear which structures and units will receive this technique. Earlier, the leadership of the "military-industrial complex" noted that the new armored car will complement the existing "Tiger" and will solve other problems. At the same time, company representatives talked about the possible replacement of the Tiger with a new model, but the exact date was not given.

Apparently, the real future of the promising armored car will be determined a little later. Now the main task of the Military-Industrial Company, the Ministry of Defense and several organizations from its structure is to fine-tune the design and conduct state tests. These events will take several months - and soon new messages on the progress of the project may appear.
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  1. Zaurbek 25 February 2020 05: 56 New
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    UAZ will change? On something?
    1. svp67 25 February 2020 06: 06 New
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      Quote: Zaurbek
      UAZ will change? On something?

      "Tiger", this car is a replacement for him ... It's time already.
      But here it is ...
      Mine protection saves the crew from 2 kg of TNT under the wheel or underbody.
      It’s not how we can’t reach this figure for “Lynx-Iveco”, there it is up to 6 kg, I wonder why?
      1. Zaurbek 25 February 2020 06: 18 New
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        In my opinion, no .... The tiger partially replaces the BRDM, Gaz66 and platforms for anti-tank systems and all equipment ..
        1. svp67 25 February 2020 06: 23 New
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          Quote: Zaurbek
          In my opinion, no ....

        2. Chicha squad 25 February 2020 20: 27 New
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          BRDM? Into intelligence on the Tiger? Gas66? But what about the Urals 4x4, Kamaz 4x4? Ptrk based on the Tiger? At the exhibitions they only show and promise which year they’ll go to the army, but it still doesn’t. As already noted, the Tiger is a real replacement for Oise. I'm not talking about the fact that in Syria the majority of the Tigers are not armored.
      2. mark1 25 February 2020 06: 18 New
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        Quote: svp67
        we can’t reach this indicator, there it is up to 6 kg, I wonder why?

        For the price of the question, most likely ...
        1. Zaurbek 25 February 2020 06: 26 New
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          MRAP and Athlete are different machines. Compare with the American Oshkosh.
          1. KCA
            KCA 25 February 2020 07: 03 New
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            The MRAP is 2 times higher and one and a half times wider than the Tiger, any barmales will fall into it with RPGs after a couple of training shots by blank, to say nothing of trained soldiers, and in the realities of modern wars, it’s easier to put a suicide bomber with RPGs on the road than to bother with a landmine or mine
            1. Zaurbek 25 February 2020 08: 13 New
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              MPI has a different goal .... patrolling, dispersal of Protestants, defense against shelling. Not at the forefront ..... the Tiger and the same Hammer have different tasks ... in some ways these tasks overlap. For a modern ATGM or Grenade launcher do not care how much KG it can withstand. And undermining during patrolling is the specific conditions of hostilities.
              1. Lopatov 25 February 2020 11: 11 New
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                Quote: Zaurbek
                the Tiger and the same Hammer have other tasks

                At "Humvee" - to be an infantry carrier in the "light" brigades. Accordingly, their functions pass to Oshkosh L-ATV

                At the Tiger - to cut the money allocated for defense. Accordingly, its functions will pass to the "Athlete".
            2. CTABEP 25 February 2020 09: 52 New
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              There is reconnaissance of the column’s path from a suicide bomber, plus getting from an RPG does not mean that everyone is dead, it’s a small through hole. But under the bottom of the Urals 6kg of TNT - they all catapulted from the body, most likely to the other world. Mrapy is the replacement of the Urals in the army rear columns, which we used to burn regularly with the personnel regularly, rather than front-line equipment.
              1. KCA
                KCA 25 February 2020 17: 29 New
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                Is intelligence going in front of the columns with a span of five hundred meters along the sides of the road? The Germans did this before the passage of the important train echelons, did it help a lot?
      3. Doctor 25 February 2020 09: 16 New
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        "Tiger", this machine is a replacement for him ...

        Why change it? It's like a fresh car.
        1. svp67 25 February 2020 10: 48 New
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          Quote: Arzt
          Why change it? It's like a fresh car.

          It is necessary that during the operation questions and problems have accumulated that cannot be resolved by the simple upgrades of the Tiger, a radical alteration or a new car is required
          1. Grits 25 February 2020 16: 24 New
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            Quote: svp67
            It is necessary that during the operation questions and problems have accumulated that cannot be resolved by the simple upgrades of the Tiger, a radical alteration or a new car is required

            UAZ drove 40 years - and nothing survived. And here the "Tiger" - several years in operation, in parts of it there are still practically not the right amount (I have only seen it 2 times in my life), and is it already out of date?
            1. svp67 25 February 2020 16: 54 New
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              Quote: Gritsa
              and already out of date?

              Alas, he has problems with mine resistance and there ...
        2. Lopatov 25 February 2020 11: 12 New
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          Quote: Arzt
          Why change it? It's like a fresh car.

          Deripaska is experiencing certain problems with income, help is needed.
          1. svp67 25 February 2020 16: 56 New
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            Quote: Spade
            Deripaska is experiencing certain problems with income, help is needed.

            This is garbage, here in general they decided to change the state standards, again allowing the use of aluminum wires in home wiring, this is help so help ...
            1. KCA
              KCA 25 February 2020 17: 32 New
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              And what is the problem of using aluminum wires? Only in stock, which will make a twist of copper with aluminum and wind up with a miraculous blue electrical tape, the terminal block for 5 cents removes all questions
              1. svp67 25 February 2020 18: 04 New
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                And what is the problem of using aluminum wires?

                It’s better to talk to professionals, I would associate you with my son-in-law, he is my electrical engineer, but he is on the shift. There are problems with transmission, with thermal conductivity, and most importantly they are distinguished by increased fragility, unlike copper ...
                1. KCA
                  KCA 25 February 2020 18: 40 New
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                  A slightly lower thermal conductivity and a slightly higher resistance of aluminum wires, in comparison with copper, are compensated by a 2-3-fold increase in the cross-section of the wire, at a lower price, the flexibility of the wire is not important at all for home wiring, which is either walled into the wall or laid in a box, or do you have the wiring connected to the distribution panel, and you drag it from room to room, like a vacuum cleaner on a wire? I’m kind of not quite an electrician, but I was allowed to work with electrical installations up to 1 kV as an electrotechnological staff, and even worked a bit, well, I’ve been familiar with home wiring since my school years
                  1. garri-lin 25 February 2020 19: 14 New
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                    Well, do not talk about the electrician. Compared to copper, even high-quality aluminum sucks. And the difference in price is minuscule. Insulation is good, more expensive than the core. And to return aluminum is a nonsense brand.
                  2. andrew42 26 February 2020 08: 11 New
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                    The aluminum core is aging and in a summer of that way 5 becomes fragile from the word at all. Who scratched the back of his head over the broken ends sticking out of the wall by 5mm (so that you can’t attach the terminal block), he will understand. Those wishing to open the wiring in the wall - forward and with a song about a wonderful lumen.
                  3. Bad_gr 26 February 2020 22: 55 New
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                    Quote: KCA
                    they are compensated by 2-3 times the increased cross-section of the wire, at a lower price, the flexibility of the wire is generally not important for home wiring, which is either walled into the wall, or laid in a box, or you have wiring connected to the distribution panel,

                    In old houses, I came across aluminum wires that were impossible to break: it bends like a rope and no kinks. Unlike the junk that is found in homes now. When replacing a switch or outlet, especially if the supply wires are short, it is bent a couple of times (and the previous electrician did it before you) and the wire breaks or works in a broken state for some time, then it burns out and hemorrhoids begin to be hollowed out from concrete at least some tip to which you can cling to a terminal block. And if neighbors flooded the apartment, then there is a good chance that part of the apartment will go out. You look at the wallpaper, find a place in which you seemed to stick a lit match, grind concrete, strip both ends of a burnt wire, and put in a terminal block. Lighting such a repair will pull, if the load is a little higher, it will burn. If the ends of the aluminum wires are assembled into a ring and pulled together with a bolt, after a while the aluminum may sag a little, the twist will weaken and then you will either find it due to stinking insulation or it will burn itself off.
            2. Doctor 25 February 2020 20: 32 New
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              This is garbage, here in general they decided to change the state standards, again allowing the use of aluminum wires in home wiring, this is help so help ...

              Here is mu ... ki. Not enough fires for us? Precisely Deripaska sold, along with construction companies, the only way to save. And apartment prices will also increase.
        3. Chicha squad 25 February 2020 20: 28 New
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          The tiger is quite a problem car.
      4. garri-lin 25 February 2020 19: 07 New
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        You can write anything. Moreover, such an indicator is purely conditional.
      5. Blackgrifon 24 May 2020 14: 23 New
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        Quote: svp67
        It’s not how we can’t reach this figure for “Lynx-Iveco”, there it is up to 6 kg, I wonder why?

        But the typhoons originally planned. It is a pity that GAZ (VPK) with its "ingenious" managers and engineers, who, having vast experience in creating wheeled BVMs, cannot make normal armored personnel carriers, climb again.
  2. Eug
    Eug 25 February 2020 07: 41 New
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    Explain to the ignorant why in the troop compartment the seats are not placed in the center so that the soldiers are facing the sides? Indeed, in this case, they may, albeit not especially, but observe what is happening outside the car and if anything, it is much more convenient to fire through the loopholes .. or is the task of firing on the move not set, and observation from the landing squad can be neglected?
    1. Salty 25 February 2020 07: 47 New
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      Quote: Eug
      or the task of firing on the go is not set, and observation from the landing squad can be neglected?

      Have you ever tried to drive an infantry fighting vehicle or tank, not on the road? Try it, all questions will disappear by themselves.
      1. Glory1974 25 February 2020 09: 37 New
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        Have you ever tried to drive an infantry fighting vehicle or tank, not on the road?

        Have tried. Everything is fine. In addition, there are exercises of firing of military equipment in motion.
        The main requirement for cars is that the landing party is facing the board. Why is it different here to me is not clear.
        1. Salty 25 February 2020 20: 11 New
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          Quote: glory1974
          there are exercises of firing from military equipment in motion. Have you shot?

          Of the BMP assault in motion, no. What kind of exercise is this? On the director, or on the field? I have never heard ...
          1. Glory1974 25 February 2020 20: 45 New
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            training shooting exercises No. 6 and No. 7, exercise numbers can change, because the shooting course is constantly changing.
            Shooting from a moving car on top of the side or through loopholes BTR (BMP) from AK and PC.
            Paratroopers and special forces shoot an exercise from a moving helicopter.
            1. Salty 25 February 2020 20: 46 New
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              Quote: glory1974
              through loopholes BTR (BMP) from AK and PC

              Director or field? The director is a highway. Greenhouse))
              1. Glory1974 25 February 2020 20: 50 New
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                directrix. But the exercise is educational.
                combat shooting squads in the field.
                1. Salty 25 February 2020 21: 09 New
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                  Quote: glory1974
                  directrix

                  Clear. "On a flat track")))

                  I looked, this is the 9 UUS "Shooting through the loopholes (overboard) of military vehicles and from the car from short stops and on the move." Objectives - RPG, infantry group and a trench 10x1 meter (grenade). It looks like landing training to work "secure" for every fireman. In the field - it’s just useless, you can only get into a cow there. Fixed, calmly standing nearby.
                  1. Glory1974 26 February 2020 19: 19 New
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                    It looks like landing training to work "secure" for every fireman.

                    You could say that. But after the first Chechen campaign, these exercises again came to the forefront. A lot of shooting from ambushes, including at close distances, was almost point blank. Infantry in airborne vehicles, with their backs to the board just a target. From BTR (BMP) in dexterity, you can at least open fire to suppress. In general, much attention has been paid to this in many parts.
                    And in my opinion it’s correct. Even conditionally aimed fire prevents the enemy from aiming at you.
        2. Bad_gr 26 February 2020 23: 06 New
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          Quote: glory1974
          Why is it different here I do not understand.

          Because the bottom of the car is V-shaped, and at the landing the legs should not touch the floor, so that they would not suffer during the blasting. Therefore, if you put the seats in the center, they will have to be raised, and there, not far from the ceiling to the head.
    2. Glory1974 25 February 2020 09: 38 New
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      Why aren't the seats in the center of the assault landing so that the soldiers are facing the sides?

      I also do not understand. And you need to shoot and watch.
    3. God save the king 25 February 2020 09: 55 New
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      Quote: Eug
      Why aren't the seats in the center of the assault landing so that the soldiers are facing the sides?
      Because it is inconvenient. There is someone to watch what is happening outside the car, and apart from the paratroopers, however, the general overview is not so bad in comparison with the Soviet armored personnel carriers. It is simply impossible to conduct at least any productive fire from the embrasures.
      or the task of firing on the move is not posed, and the observation from the troop compartment can be neglected
      quite right
      1. Lopatov 25 February 2020 11: 14 New
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        Quote: God save the King
        Because it is inconvenient. There is someone to watch what is happening outside the car, in addition to the paratroopers, however, the general overview is not so bad in comparison with Soviet armored personnel carriers.

        But this, I'm sorry, is not an armored personnel carrier.
        1. God save the king 25 February 2020 11: 19 New
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          The most armored personnel carrier that has only departed from the late Soviet concept of light tank wedges in which the troops have somehow squeezed.
          1. Lopatov 25 February 2020 11: 23 New
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            Quote: God save the King
            The most armored personnel carrier,

            Well yes. Only with worse cross-country ability, worse armed, carrying less people. And so yes, the most that neither is ...
            1. God save the king 25 February 2020 11: 29 New
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              But it’s more mobile, with much better living conditions and operational characteristics, with good protection of the soldiers, because this should be a priority for the BRONET_TRANSPORTER (not a tank, not an reconnaissance vehicle, and not an amphibious assault).
              1. Lopatov 25 February 2020 11: 34 New
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                Quote: God save the King
                But more mobile

                A car that has worse cross-country ability and cannot swim cannot be “more mobile”.
                Quote: God save the King
                after all, that’s exactly what should be a priority for BRONET_TRANSPORTER

                Exactly. Conveyor. The conveyor to the line of dismount, and not to the place to which we managed to reach.
                1. God save the king 25 February 2020 11: 45 New
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                  A car that has worse cross-country ability and cannot swim cannot be “more mobile”.
                  How else can. In the modern world, a developed network of roads is everywhere, and soft soils are an obstacle not so often.
                  But such a machine can easily make a 500-kilometer march, and without consequences for the landing, and construction with the widespread introduction of civilian nodes allows you to build a lot of them.
                  Exactly. Conveyor. Conveyor to the turn of the dismount
                  it is the conveyor in the rear and along the second line, for the delivery of hostilities on the front there are tracked infantry fighting vehicles.
                  1. Lopatov 25 February 2020 12: 59 New
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                    Quote: God save the King
                    How else can. In the modern world, a developed network of roads is everywhere, and soft soils are an obstacle not so often.

                    Is.
                    But if the task is to fight exclusively along the roads, then pussies like "Athlete" are not needed all the more. Full MRAP with a full landing for 12-14 people. And cheaper, and more convenient, and more secure.



                    Quote: God save the King
                    it is the conveyor in the rear and along the second line, for the delivery of hostilities on the front there are tracked infantry fighting vehicles.

                    And where will they come from? They have their own infantry riding. And all these not-so-cheap “Athletes” will simply bring infantry to the line of landing on tank armor (according to new charters). Let not everyone reach the line of dismounting, the enemy has artillery. But this is not important, is it?
                    1. God save the king 25 February 2020 15: 02 New
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                      But if the task is to fight exclusively along the roads, then pussies like "Athlete" are not needed all the more.
                      It is precisely “fighting” (in the narrow sense, that is, directly confronting an equivalent enemy on the contact line) that this task is definitely not for an armored personnel carrier.
                      Full MRAP with a full landing for 12-14 people. And cheaper, and more convenient, and more secure.
                      A full-fledged MPI is often excessive, and has an unbearable cost, but a car for 6-8 people is just right for everyday use. He will take the wounded, and deliver the ammunition, and change the guard, and the army will not go broke on patrol / escort.
                      They have their own infantry riding.
                      So that this "own infantry" could continue to ride, it must be provided with operational supplies and secure transport for auxiliary units.
                      "Athletes" just bring infantry to the line of landing on the armor of tanks
                      Shaw, again tank destroyers with a saber naked? So you look out the window, there is the 21st century for a long time.
                      1. Lopatov 25 February 2020 17: 26 New
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                        Quote: God save the King
                        A full-fledged MCI is often excessive, and has an unbearable cost,

                        It will be cheaper than two or three Athletes
                        Here, for example, Ural-63095 is 18 people plus a carrier. That is, two Urals are roughly five Athletes. The first ones are definitely cheaper.
                        And with a high probability they will have a greater cross.

                        Quote: God save the King
                        So that this "own infantry" could continue to ride, it must be provided with operational supplies and secure transport for auxiliary units.

                        That is, normal APCs.
                        In Russia, the infantry moves exclusively on infantry fighting vehicles or armored personnel carriers. Plus, the only experimental Patriot battalion

                        Quote: God save the King
                        Shaw, again tank destroyers with a saber naked? So you look out the window, there is the 21st century for a long time.

                        That's it!
                        Because all these little cars and do not have close patency of the tank. Therefore, they will have to transplant them from the "Athlete" at the turn of landing on the armor.
                  2. Grits 25 February 2020 16: 28 New
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                    Quote: God save the King
                    In the modern world, a developed network of roads is everywhere, and soft soils are an obstacle not so often.
                    But such a machine can easily make a 500-kilometer march, and without consequences for the landing, and construction with the widespread introduction of civilian nodes allows you to build a lot of them.

                    To do this, there is a "Typhoon K" and "Typhoon W"
        2. Blackgrifon 24 May 2020 14: 29 New
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          Quote: Spade
          But this, I'm sorry, is not an armored personnel carrier.

          With all due respect to you, but here you are wrong. Modern military (i.e., special-purpose) maraps and armored vehicles have long served as armored personnel carriers (transportation of military vehicles, fire support (if there is anything), reconnaissance and security) and at the same time serve as the basis for special equipment with relative cheapness (in comparison with modern armored personnel carriers). And classic armored personnel carriers with 8x8 wheel formulas have long been rather wheeled BMPs (with guns, armor, weight and price).
      2. Glory1974 25 February 2020 20: 47 New
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        or the task of firing on the move is not posed, and the observation from the troop compartment can be neglected
        quite right

        if suicide bombers are on their way, whose task is to quickly die without trying to shoot at the enemy, then, yes, that's right.
        Read the article on the website "Information from the gunman", there the gunman tells how to shoot those who ride like that.
    4. svp67 25 February 2020 16: 57 New
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      Explain to the ignorant why in the troop compartment the seats are not placed in the center so that the soldiers are facing the sides?

      This is in order to create free volume if necessary, the transportation of various goods, including the wounded
      1. Eug
        Eug 25 February 2020 18: 39 New
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        Thanks, accepted.
      2. garri-lin 25 February 2020 19: 33 New
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        There, it seems, the floor is wedge-shaped and under graying it is higher than on the aisle. Legroom will not be soldiers. Or lift chairs higher.
  3. rudolff 25 February 2020 08: 15 New
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    Visually, the bumper seems too low. She will be stuck in pits or suspended in a deep rut. The Tiger seems to be taller.
  4. Yrec 25 February 2020 09: 12 New
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    Quote: Zaurbek
    UAZ will change? On something?

    To replace the UAZ collective farm "Scorpio", his fate is not yet clear, although he has passed all or almost all of the tests.
    1. Glory1974 25 February 2020 09: 39 New
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      To replace the UAZ collective farm "Scorpio", its fate is not yet clear

      Already so much technology has been used up that you won’t remember all the samples.
      The first samples of Vodnik have already been sent to Syria, probably not useful in their homeland
      1. Grits 25 February 2020 16: 32 New
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        The first samples of Vodnik have already been sent to Syria, probably they weren’t suitable at home

        Something they did not roll to our warriors
    2. Lopatov 25 February 2020 11: 28 New
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      Quote: Yrec
      To replace the UAZ collective farm "Scorpio"

      "They defeated" the car under the slogan "their engine is not ours, and in general, Zashchita is not a big enough company to cut GOZ"
      Guys just threw money to the wind. They don’t make such mistakes anymore. And "Protection" from this segment is actually squeezed out.
    3. Grits 25 February 2020 16: 31 New
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      Quote: Yrec
      To replace the UAZ collective farm "Scorpio", his fate is not yet clear, although he has passed all or almost all of the tests.

      “Scorpio” had a very small minus, which buried him greatly. This is an enemy engine. Which drove so jewelryly into the Scorpio’s case that no other one got into it. And the change of place under another dvigun completely turned over the whole car. Amen.
      1. Blackgrifon 24 May 2020 14: 36 New
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        Quote: Gritsa
        This is an enemy engine

        The engine was the same on the gazelle, if not mistaken. Yes, and then it could still be localized.
        The scorpion had a minus - it was cheap and did not make it VPK / GAZ.

        In general, the level of VPK / GAZ was fully demonstrated by their Tiger and Boomerang: having vast experience in the field, they have not been able to make a normal APC for almost 10 years and it took them more than 10 years for the Tiger to withstand 2 kg of explosives. At the same time, KAMAZ in less time (and despite the cries of "lobbying") was able to create both an armored personnel carrier (K-63969) and 3 light, but protected armored vehicles of the Typhoon family. Moreover, K-63968 holds more in the forehead than the BTR-82A.
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    Well, why do we have all the equipment soooooooooooooooooooo long tested and implemented? AND? Well, if it’s for the benefit .... And then for years we have been testing and implementing it, but in reality it turns out that "we invented the bicycle"! Which, moreover, is already morally obsolete! fool