In China, named the parameter by which the modernized fighter J-20 surpassed the F-35

In China, named the parameter by which the modernized fighter J-20 surpassed the F-35

The Chinese media report a phased modernization of the 5th generation fighter J-20, calling the parameter by which the aircraft surpassed the F-35. This modernization is being carried out in China almost simultaneously with the deployment of these aircraft to the Air Force.


In particular, it is indicated that, in comparison with the first J-20 models, their upgraded versions can carry almost two more weapons. Attention is drawn to the fighter with tail number 2013. It is noted that this option J-20 can see several additional missile suspension points, which were not on previous versions.

Chinese experts argue that the new versions of the J-20 "surpassed the American F-35" precisely in terms of how many weapons (primarily missiles) the aircraft can take on board.

The comparison is as follows:

If the American F-35 can simultaneously carry up to 16 medium-range missiles, then the J-20 has 12 missiles in the main set and plus 6 in the additional one.

However, not all Chinese experts are delighted with this kind of information. So, it is noted that missiles on external suspensions reduce the level of stealth of a combat aircraft. Therefore, you have to look for a "middle ground", equipping the aircraft with the amount of weapons that is necessary for a specific operation.
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  2. bessmertniy 21 February 2020 12: 43 New
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    Let Trump get nervous, as the Chinese fighters begin to surpass the American. repeat I think that the Chinese will find a balance of such characteristics that will consolidate this superiority. hi
    1. Nikolay3 21 February 2020 12: 47 New
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      Chinese experts argue that the new versions of the J-20 "surpassed the American F-35" precisely in terms of how many weapons (primarily missiles) the aircraft can take on board.
      So, it is noted that missiles on external suspensions reduce the level of stealth of a combat aircraft.

      This is not an advantage, but a PR! One to the detriment of the other. Not that - not this. The truth is in the middle ground, but on this advantage of the J-20 will come to naught.
  3. Rushnairfors 21 February 2020 12: 45 New
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    It seems to me that he surpassed him in wretchedness, F35 is personally prettier to me than this Frankenstein, in which a little from each wunderwaffle is collected, ugly letable, but I certainly do not pretend to the truth in the last instance. So expressed his opinion
  4. knn54 21 February 2020 13: 03 New
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    According to one Chinese engineer (a graduate of our Polytechnic), they managed to develop a stealth coating that is more resistant to the environment than the Yankees .. and the rest is a moot point.
  5. thinker 21 February 2020 13: 08 New
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    The Chinese media report ...
    So this is Sohu! J-20 in "beast mode" laughing
    https://www.sohu.com/a/371388634_448414
  6. Azazelo 21 February 2020 13: 18 New
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    By the number of technologies stolen in the USSR.
  7. rotkiv04 21 February 2020 13: 21 New
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    The more suspension points, the more invisibility turns into a visible, so the Chinese have a strange advantage
  8. Whalebone 21 February 2020 13: 24 New
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    Missiles on an external sling do not "reduce stealth", but "turn off" it. The speed and maneuvering qualities of an airplane weighted to the eyeballs deteriorate significantly. It’s time to figure it out, but will it come up with a good supersonic in full load? I’ll add that Penguin and less and with 1 engine. Compare their PN, too, as it is not comme il faut.
  9. Romario_Argo 21 February 2020 13: 44 New
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    The Chinese can surprise the world only in one case - when they copy the VTOL F-35
    So far no surprise (!)
  10. pavelty 21 February 2020 14: 09 New
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    Tired .. until in a real battle there are 5th generation aircraft and, preferably not one on one, but as part of a squadron, for example, from whom it’s thicker we won’t find out
  11. Vasyan1971 21 February 2020 14: 29 New
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    The Chinese media report on the phased modernization of the 5th generation fighter J-20

    There’s a kind of iPhone! They didn’t have time to release it, but they are already modernizing it.
  12. 75 Sergey 21 February 2020 14: 33 New
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    Well, nobody forbids them to speak.
    Aivot who will be the first to discover the target - that and slippers!
  13. Tank jacket 21 February 2020 14: 49 New
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    The Russian system of electronic warfare "Kraukha" burned down two of the most expensive American fighter jets. According to reports published by the US military, Russian electronic warfare systems deployed in Syria caused serious damage to the two most expensive American fighters - F-35 and F-22. The systems of the latter fell under the powerful electronic impact and, apparently, became completely unusable, as they could not accurately determine the location in the airspace over Syria. As reported by the American analytical publication The National Interest, this happened during the reflection of the next massive drone attack on Khmeimim. Pilots with great difficulty managed to return the "extremely poorly obeying control" of the car home. The most unpleasant thing for American experts was that both aircraft belong to the class of the most technologically advanced weapons, and the REB 1RL257 Krasuha 4 station broke them
    1. eklmn 22 February 2020 04: 28 New
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      Since when did the phrase
      “According to reports published by the US military, Russian electronic warfare systems deployed in Syria caused serious damage to the two most expensive American fighters - F-35 and F-22. ”
      with translation “According to reports published by the US military, Russian electronic warfare systems deployed in Syria have caused serious damage to the two most expensive American fighters - the F-35 and F-22.”
      related to The National Interest?
      The source of gossip is the English-language site of the Russian edition of Avia.Pro.net
      http://avia-pro.net/news/rossiyskuyu-reb-krasuha-obvinili-v-polomke-istrebiteley-f-35-i-f-22
      If you go to The National Interest website and insert the word Krasuha in Search, you will find one article for 2017 with quotes from Russian publications praising electronic warfare of different classes and Amer comments on them.
      2017
      https://nationalinterest.org/feature/america-getting-outclassed-by-russian-electronic-warfare-22380
      The article does praise Russian EW and talk about the backlog of the US and NATO in this matter, but not a word about F-22/35.
      So you need to analyze more thoroughly, otherwise you’ll get tired of removing noodles from your ears ...
      1. Tank jacket 22 February 2020 09: 31 New
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        Your nickname speaks of a derogatory attitude towards the Russian language. Who do you work for? Where do you live? How old are you? What is your name?
        My name is Ruslan ... We will know each other ...
      2. Tank jacket 22 February 2020 17: 16 New
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        Ау, я не понял, ответы на вопросы где???
      3. Tank jacket 22 February 2020 18: 49 New
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        Ё такаЯ ёклмн??? Испугался чтоль??? Не боись...
  14. Kurare 21 February 2020 15: 03 New
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    The Chinese media report a phased modernization of the 5th generation fighter J-20, naming the parameter by which the aircraft surpassed the F-35.

    belay More recently, the same Chinese media wrote that the F-35 is almost not suitable for the J-20 in almost all respects! But it turns out that the twin-engine J-20 “bypassed” the F-35 in the number of EXTERNAL suspension points.

    We are waiting for further stages of "modernization", maybe then they will surpass them in some other way.
  15. Voltsky 21 February 2020 15: 45 New
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    Sorry, of course, but it seems to me that J-20 => a heavy fighter of gaining air supremacy; while F-35 => lightweight multi-functional attack aircraft / fighter
    That is, they compare a camel with a horse.
    1. Tuzik 21 February 2020 16: 31 New
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      It does not stop one from filling up another
    2. Grigory_45 21 February 2020 18: 13 New
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      Quote: Voletsky
      it seems to me that J-20 => heavy fighter gaining dominance in the air

      which of the Chinese conqueror, damn it ??? From the pepelats - for striking at sea and land targets, the battle for him is secondary and very fraught
      1. Voltsky 21 February 2020 18: 27 New
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        these are their words about the fact that their MIFIF duck and not mine, tell the Chinese people based on your centuries-old experience in the aircraft industry, why their bird is good :) I just clarified that the units being compared in different weight categories
        1. Grigory_45 21 February 2020 18: 33 New
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          Quote: Voletsky
          these are their words

          proof in studio

          Quote: Voletsky
          based on your centuries of experience in the aircraft industry

          how witty))) You do not have to be a great aircraft designer to understand that their J-20 is an air fighter like a glider from an iron. You reward this Chinese building with super-maneuverability and hypersound to the heap
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          2. Voltsky 21 February 2020 18: 56 New
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            Chinese Internet, this is of course something with something; if you run around there, you can read very serious fanfare about this flyer :)
            https://chinapower.csis.org/china-chengdu-j-20/

            now proof about its characteristics as an iron, I would like to hear from you.
            1. Grigory_45 21 February 2020 19: 16 New
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              Quote: Voletsky
              Chinese Internet, this is of course something with something; if you run around, you can read very serious fanfares about this flyer

              besides this (fanfare) there is nothing in your note. So where does it say that the J-20 is a fighter for gaining superiority in the sky ??? There will be a proof where the Chinese call it that ??? Not the most truthful press in the world, but the designer, the military?

              But I don’t have a proof, and I did not promise you it. As they say, everything is there, just look at the photo of the Chinese. A long fuselage with short wings of a small area, a duck, fuselage ridges (hi stealth) - the plane is unstable on the course, otherwise they would not be put on. The air intakes a la F-35, with which supersonic cried. Relatively low-power motors and a large mass. Fighter??? If this is not a strike aircraft, then I am the Roman emperor)
              1. Voltsky 21 February 2020 19: 33 New
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                but I said somewhere that they call him that constructor? I said it is what the Chinese call it.
                from a bad mind to a healthy one, you stop it.
                1. Grigory_45 21 February 2020 19: 49 New
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                  Quote: Voletsky
                  I said it so the Chinese call it

                  Well, there’s no need to broadcast the “most truthful in the world” Chinese media and the expert opinions of couch analysts
                  1. Voltsky 21 February 2020 20: 04 New
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                    Uncle Petya,?


                    this is a forum, everything is written here as you put it in style
                    "the most truthful in the world"
                    . + Here they are constantly throwing a dry plow, but you are telling me, I didn’t start it :)
  16. Tuzik 21 February 2020 16: 35 New
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    I thought here again the lift power of the G-20 will begin to praise. But no, the G-20 has two longer missiles)
  17. Imperial Technocrat 21 February 2020 16: 35 New
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    Shaw that, shaw that - shit
  18. Tuzik 21 February 2020 16: 38 New
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    "Pay attention to the fighter with tail number 2013"

    Really pays. Many will think this is the year of release)
  19. Grigory_45 21 February 2020 17: 43 New
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    it is noted that missiles on external suspensions reduce the level of stealth of a combat aircraft.
    external pendants put stealth on a par with fourth-generation aircraft in terms of stealth characteristics.
    In this case, the Chinese should look at the F-15EX, which can drag as many as 22 air combat missiles.
    Pure PR from Beijing.
    Chinese aircraft will never reach the level of the American, and even more so to the Soviet. They can compete only in one indicator - mass production, and here the grandmother said in two
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  21. Amin_vivec 21 February 2020 20: 20 New
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    They can surpass that of F-35, that of Su-57 only in terms of wear rate and failure rate.