So what worries the Russians more: how is Field Marshal Haftar doing or the socio-economic situation in the Russian Federation?


The tax policy of the Russian state will not change in the next few years, while it is not planned to significantly increase pensions. Such a conclusion can be made by analyzing the statements of the ministers and the general situation with taxes, insurance contributions and pensions in Russia.


The introduction of a progressive scale of taxation of personal income has long ceased to be a dream only of the Russian left. Now the need for such a step is stated by a variety of people, even the head of Sberbank German Gref stressed that he was ready to raise the tax on the rich to 20-25%. But while the state is not ready for such an measure. Finance Minister Anton Siluanov said that the very introduction of such a measure can be considered no earlier than by 2024.

The main concern of the government is that wealthy Russians will begin to withdraw their capital abroad, Russia's attractiveness for investors will decrease, and an already huge shadow sector will grow. But it seems that without raising taxes on the rich, many social problems cannot be solved. Yes, and it’s not very clear why a person with a salary of 20 thousand rubles pays a tax of 2600 rubles, which is very substantial money for him and living in a 17400 salary segment is already significantly worse than in 20000, and a person with incomes of millions rubles pays 13%, with millions remaining for his life. The option is to establish a certain minimum that would not be taxed. But establishing such a minimum will not bring money to the budget, although the idea itself is very good.

Not wanting to raise taxes on the rich, the authorities are willingly considering the possibility of raising them at the expense of the poor. So, the deputy minister of industry and trade, Alexander Morozov, said that his department will soon initiate an increase in the tax on cars of Euro-3 and lower class. The need for such an innovation is explained by environmental safety considerations, since these machines pollute the environment and damage the health of Russian citizens.

But the Euro-3 class includes a huge part of used cars. It turns out that they want to replenish the treasury again at the expense of the least wealthy car owners, who cannot afford a more modern car, but buy "age" foreign cars or used domestic cars. In fact, the tax on cars of Euro-3 class and below can be called the introduction of a new type of tax in the country - environmental.

In the meantime, the ministers are discussing the prospects of taxation, in the Chelyabinsk region, a pensioner received a pension increase of 1 ruble 10 kopecks. So she indexed a pension after the decision on indexation since January 2020. The local branch of the Pension Fund hastened to report that all the increases are individual, depend on a particular person and his or her work biography. But be that as it may, and an increase of 1 ruble looks like a mockery. That is exactly how the pensioner took it, sending “great money” to the address: Moscow, Kremlin.

Thus, social policy remains the “Achilles heel” of the current government. With some successes in foreign policy, in the military industry, in the modernization of the armed forces, the socio-economic course of the Russian government is frankly "lame." And this, of course, is bad, because in the end, the average layman estimates the effectiveness of the authorities not by how many villages were freed from militants in the Syrian province of Idlib or how things are done by Field Marshal Haftar in faraway Libya, but by his own financial situation, by the comfort of using public infrastructure and other benefits.

If an ordinary citizen is stifled by taxes, if he sees a gap between rich and poor, which becomes only deeper and deeper, if pensions are indexed to the ruble, and salaries have not been raised for a long time, then he will inevitably have questions both to lawmakers, and to the government, and to to the head of state.
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  1. Livonetc 21 February 2020 09: 41 New
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    Comparison of non-overlapping realities.
    Mexico, for example, generally does not have an army as such.
    They were glad to serve the mattresses.
    Now they begin to slowly think, but is it good to be a bed under the mattress.
    1. Gene84 21 February 2020 10: 05 New
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      Quote: Livonetc
      Mexico, for example, has no army at all.

      In their power, the Mexican Armed Forces are considered second after Brazil.
      https://vpk.name/news/176896_samye_silnye_armii_latinskoi_ameriki.html
      1. Machito 21 February 2020 10: 49 New
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        There is no money, but you hold on.
        Russia's problem is not that it is not possible to feed the poor. And the fact that the rich do not get drunk in any way. Son of the Seagull does not fit on the TV. In 1917, the poor fed the rich well: with a pitchfork. They cried: What about us?
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        2. Arberes 21 February 2020 11: 38 New
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          Quote: Bearded
          Russia's problem is not that it is not possible to feed the poor.

          Well, it doesn’t work for the powerful people in power to introduce a progressive tax (bees do not fly against honey), well, let the income tax be reduced (say, 10% or 8%) for those who exist by 25-30 thousand per month.
          Who is strong in the economy: can express an opinion? I would like to hear the opinion of knowledgeable, as they say.
          PS
          Social stratification is not doing well. Once they checked it in their own skin and everyone got it.
          1. Chervonny 21 February 2020 12: 32 New
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            Quote: Arberes
            Social stratification is not doing well.

            Not everyone understands this and not everyone remembers 1917. The year when the people led by Lenin took away, equalized the hated social stratification in Russia. But our officials and authorities do not remember that period in the history of our state.
            1. Svarog 21 February 2020 14: 08 New
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              Quote: Red
              But our officials and authorities do not remember that period in the history of our state.

              They all remember .. counting on Zolotov .. and all airfields are prepared ..
            2. cloud catcher 21 February 2020 21: 21 New
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              "In 1917, the granddaughter of the Decembrist hears a noise on the street and sends a servant to find out what is the matter.
              Soon, the servant returns:
              - There is a revolution, mistress. My grandfather was also a revolutionary! And what do they want?
              “They want the rich not to be.”
              - It’s strange ... And my grandfather wanted the poor "
              There can be no rich without the poor - a joke.
              But hell, there shouldn’t be such a huge difference in income between the richest and the poorest in the country !!

              PS at the same time, domestic policy is important today, and foreign - at the borders of the country, strategically the day after tomorrow.
              1. aybolyt678 21 February 2020 21: 34 New
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                Quote: Cloud Catcher
                It’s strange ... And my grandfather wanted the poor "

                Quote: Cloud Catcher
                But hell, there shouldn’t be such a huge difference in income between the richest and the poorest in the country !!

                You have initially incorrectly posed the question. Decembrists - an English project, such as an interim government, clause 6 of the requirements of which was the liquidation of a strong army. What were the tenth slogans at the same time, the more so as the grandfathers of the Decembrists understood them. The task of the screamers was achieved: the performance with the use of a firearm, at the coronation, could greatly undermine the strength of the throne and distract the Russian authorities from foreign policy problems
                1. cloud catcher 21 February 2020 21: 42 New
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                  Ready to cross out the Decembrists, monarchists, liberals ... But in essence, do not agree?
                  1. aybolyt678 21 February 2020 22: 07 New
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                    Quote: Cloud Catcher
                    But in fact, do not agree?

                    in order to determine the essence, it is necessary to develop general terms. Are you about the gap between rich and poor? this is called justice probably? But! we have a Guarantor of the Constitution which is also for justice! otherwise what is meant by the sacred law of Private Property? Is it fair to take away anyone's HIS Property !! ?? Religion supposedly found the answer to this question - before God everyone is equal! and promises to punish injustice in the other world. They resemble an ostrich that hides its head in the sand! We betrayed the ideals of our grandfathers who died in the war, therefore without sacrifices we cannot return Socialism. Our life will become more and more difficult until the very ability to sacrifice appears, when the whole people will not throw a bunch of grenades under their limousines, then there will be a turn to Socialism!
          2. Arlen 21 February 2020 12: 43 New
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            Quote: Arberes
            Social stratification

            The history of mankind is the history of the struggle for the possession of material wealth created by man, for the construction of a more just society.
            The foundation of the creation of the first socio-economic state in 1917 was three theoretical socialist models: public property; monetary relations of a regulated market; cooperation of family farms in collective farms. They would go down in the history of mankind only as theoretical models of V.I. Lenin, if they had not been developed and realized by Stalin. This gives reason to consider them Lenin-Stalin models.
            What is socialism? This is a socio-economic formation, when more than half of the production in the state is carried out on the basis of public (state) property and the income from land and property is not directed to the owners’s pocket, but to the “bins of the motherland”, for their distribution on the principle of socialism: "From each according to his ability, to each according to his work."
            What is capitalism - this is when more than half of the production in the state is carried out on the basis of private (sole, corporate) property and income from land and property is directed to the pocket of the owners, for their distribution on the principle of capitalism: “from each according to his ability, to each according to his property”.
            If we compare socialism and capitalism, we will see that socialism with its distribution is fairer, and this means that the theoretical models of Lenin-Stalin are the basis of victory in the social and economic future of Russia.
            1. Arberes 21 February 2020 13: 20 New
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              Are you calling for revolution again? Perestroika almost cost us our lives and we just won’t survive another redistribution, coup, revolution. hi
              1. Arlen 21 February 2020 13: 25 New
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                Quote: Arberes
                Are you calling for revolution again?

                Why? What did you decide? I am talking about the theoretical models of Lenin-Stalin and their successful application and their advantage over the capitalist system. I suggest using this knowledge in building a successful social and economic state. hi
                1. Arberes 21 February 2020 13: 28 New
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                  Quote: Arlen
                  I am talking about the theoretical models of Lenin-Stalin and their successful application and their advantage over the capitalist system.

                  But one excludes the other ?! Or like in China? There, capitalism flourishes under the strict guidance of the Communist Party.
                  1. Arlen 21 February 2020 13: 37 New
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                    Quote: Arberes
                    But one excludes the other ?!

                    What exactly excludes? Are you talking about the difference in economic approaches?
                    Quote: Arberes
                    Or like in China? There, capitalism flourishes under the strict guidance of the Communist Party.

                    No way.
                    I do not call for a one-party system, if you mean it.
                    1. Arberes 21 February 2020 13: 41 New
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                      Quote: Arlen
                      What exactly excludes? Are you talking about the difference in economic approaches?

                      Well, yes, as if a socialist, planned economy does not welcome private property.
                      I'm talking about the economic model of the USSR. Times, of course, and the conditions were completely different, maybe something will work out right now? hi
                      1. Alf
                        Alf 21 February 2020 20: 01 New
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                        Quote: Arberes
                        Well, yes, as if a socialist, planned economy, private property would not welcome

                        And how many types of property were in the USSR until 1953?
                      2. Arberes 22 February 2020 12: 34 New
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                        Quote: Alf
                        And how many types of property were in the USSR until 1953?

                        Sorry for the late reply, dear Alf hi - Job!
                        I will answer you honestly. I DO NOT KNOW.
                      3. Alf
                        Alf 22 February 2020 18: 53 New
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                        Quote: Arberes
                        Quote: Alf
                        And how many types of property were in the USSR until 1953?

                        Sorry for the late reply, dear Alf hi - Job!
                        I will answer you honestly. I DO NOT KNOW.

                        There is nothing to apologize for, I also break through to the laptop only in the evening.
                        At least three. State, artel and private in the form of homeworkers.
                        I will say more, PPS submachine guns were produced by ARTEL.
                      4. Alf
                        Alf 22 February 2020 22: 56 New
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                        Quote: Alf
                        I will say more, PPS submachine guns were produced by ARTEL.

                        Artel Record.
                        By the way, private owners produced 100% of toys before the war in the USSR, and the first television in the USSR was also created in an artel.
                        Before the war, the Radstel cooperative produced about 2000 TV models 17TN-1. The first Soviet tube receivers (1930), the first radios in the USSR (1935), the first televisions with a cathode ray tube (1939) were produced by the Moscow Radel artel.

                        In the industry and the service sector there were fishing cooperatives. Since the time of the NEP, the Soviet state has actively promoted the cooperation of artisans-lone handicraftsmen in the trade cooperatives, providing the cooperatives with tax and financial benefits.

                        The Leningrad artel “Joiner-builder”, starting in 1923 with sledges, wheels, clamps and coffins, by 1955 changes its name to “Radist”: it already has a large-scale production of furniture and radio equipment. The Yakut artel "Metalist", created in 1941, by the mid-1950s had a powerful factory production base. The Vologda artel "Red Partisan", having begun the production of resin-resin, in 1934, at the same time produced three and a half thousand tons, becoming a large production. The Gatchina artel “Jupiter”, which had been producing haberdashery stuff since 1924, in 1944, immediately after the liberation of the Gatchina, made nails, locks, shovels, which were urgently needed in the ruined city, and by the beginning of the 1950s produced aluminum utensils, washing machines, and drilling machine tools and presses.

                        In besieged Leningrad, the production of Sudaev's assault rifles (PPS) was done by artels that had a machine park, machines and presses, and welding equipment. Under Stalin, production and craft cooperatives were actively supported. Already in the first five-year plan, a 2,6-fold increase in the number of members of artels was planned [6].

                        At the very beginning of 1941, the Council of People's Commissars and the Central Committee of the All-Union Communist Party of Bolsheviks (Bolsheviks) issued a decree instructing the chiefs to intervene less in the activities of the cooperatives, and emphasized the mandatory election leadership of fishing cooperation at all levels. For two years, enterprises were exempted from most taxes and state control over retail pricing. The only and indispensable condition was that retail prices should not exceed state prices for similar products by more than 10-13%. In the All-Union economic discussion in 1951, D.T. Shepilov, A.N. Kosygin defended both the private farms of collective farmers and the freedom of artel entrepreneurship. Stalin wrote about this in his last work of 1952, "The Economic Problems of Socialism in the USSR."
                      5. Alf
                        Alf 22 February 2020 23: 02 New
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                        Artel Record.

                        By 1953, there were 114 private artels, workshops, and enterprises in the USSR in various fields, from the food industry to metalworking and from jewelry to the chemical industry. They employed about 000 million people who produced almost 2% of the gross industrial output of the USSR. Artels and industrial cooperatives produced 6% of furniture, 40% of metal utensils, more than a third of all knitwear, almost all children's toys. About a hundred design bureaus, 70 experimental laboratories, and 22 research institutes worked in the entrepreneurial sector of the economy under Stalin. Within this sector, there was a private, non-state, pension system. The cooperatives provided their members with loans for the purchase of livestock, tools and equipment, and housing construction. Production cooperatives produced both the simplest, most necessary things in everyday life, and high-tech products.
              2. SOVIET UNION 2 21 February 2020 22: 13 New
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                What property does capitalism support? Everything should belong to the private trader? What about competition and strategic interests of the country? Here recently the company Melody was sold in private hands. At this rate, the state will soon die off and move on to the territories of private individuals! The scribe is simple! We will live on the territory of Abramovich or Deripaska. Or we want the citizenship of Rottenberg or Tkachev! What are the prospects? Rave? Or the near future? What about the idea of ​​making highly specialized territories of Russia? This is the first step towards transferring the territories of TNCs, which means transferring territories to private hands. Forward to the past!? Whose territory is it? This is the territory of the Marquis of Karabas! And who does not agree with this. order comin sausage! That's just at the TOPs they will work out the technology, and go!
            2. SOVIET UNION 2 21 February 2020 22: 00 New
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              Well, capitalism is a one-party system! A party of capital rules everything there! There is no alternative!
          3. aybolyt678 21 February 2020 22: 09 New
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            Quote: Arberes
            There, capitalism flourishes under the strict guidance of the Communist Party.

            critical industry-forming enterprises under the state; trade with the outside world is private. The same NEP, in vain we destroyed it in the 40s. Balance to maintain and all things!
            1. Private89 24 February 2020 21: 54 New
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              NEP wasn’t it from 21 to 28? As with the NEP, it was preparing for war, when almost all of the agriculture consisted of small farms, in peacetime they did not want to sell bread at fixed prices (kulaks), because of this, cities were starving so that they would wander out in wartime, Germans would be met with flowers ?! that’s where we went to industrialization, and collectivization.
              1. aybolyt678 25 February 2020 10: 53 New
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                Quote: Private 89
                NEP wasn’t it from 21 to 28?

                officially, he was not banned, since 1928 measures began that worsened the situation of the NEPman. Taxes, tariffs .... but many, especially in Moscow, restaurants, for example ..., remember "the meeting place cannot be changed" ?? existed for a long time, right after the war ....!
        3. Machito 21 February 2020 22: 18 New
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          For service in the Roman army they gave land with slaves, for the service in the Russian army they give a TIN (pay taxes).
      2. Svarog 21 February 2020 14: 10 New
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        Quote: Arberes
        Are you calling for revolution again? Perestroika almost cost us our lives and we just won’t survive another redistribution, coup, revolution. hi

        If we have survived from capitalism, then why worry, if we return to socialism ..
        1. your1970 21 February 2020 18: 55 New
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          Quote: Svarog
          Quote: Arberes
          Are you calling for revolution again? Perestroika almost cost us our lives and we just won’t survive another redistribution, coup, revolution. hi

          If we have survived from capitalism, then why worry, if we return to socialism ..
          How do you imagine this?
          the power has changed (let's say !!), they have appointed an ideology ... but then the liberals came running and said "we are against it! Strongly !!" - what next? spit on them and score? so the youth will say amicably- "People don’t listen !! "... or immediately of that - so that later there would be someone to rehabilitate? Again, young people will say," What are the restrictions on freedom of speech !! "...
          But God bless him with the liberals ...
          How long does it take for you - to depict at least the beginning of socialism? To establish a fair distribution? To shoot corpsmen? To build factories?
          You understand that if all this is more than 1-2 years old, they will tell you "What the hell is such happiness to us that will be there sometime later !!"
          It we will believe in a bright future - and the youth (80 percent at least !!) wants here, just now... and she wants not free medicine and retirement - but a new car / heifer / whiskey and a new iPhone ...

          so I don’t believe in the return of socialism - this is too long a process for modern youth ...
          1. aybolyt678 21 February 2020 22: 13 New
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            Quote: your1970
            How do you imagine this?

            For starters, an ideology with firing power! Patriotism and social justice are the foundation! Then a progressive tax on excess profits, and a patriotic tax on exported raw materials and money and imported consumer goods. Something like this, I will be grateful for the opinion laughing
          2. Svarog 21 February 2020 22: 29 New
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            Quote: your1970
            so I don’t believe in the return of socialism - this is too long a process for modern youth ...

            I liked this comment of yours .. it is close to reality and looks something like this from the side of a person who has not read the program of communists / socialists .. But I assure you, within two years the youth, and indeed all Russian citizens, will feel positive changes. I don’t want to paint all the details of the election program of the same Grudinin .. but it will be enough that the natural heritage of Russia will become popular .. really popular .. there will be enough money for a real increase in pensions and other benefits .. If we talk about youth .. then one bedroom apartment for free for the first child, as well zainteresuet..nu and really free medical care, education .. In addition, the Socialists will focus on the domestic economy, which actually create jobs ..
            1. your1970 22 February 2020 11: 14 New
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              Quote: aybolyt678
              For starters, an ideology with firing power!
              i.e. at least 1/4 Forum in need to be shot? Olgovich, me, Lieutenant Teterin, Jack Golovan and a bunch of people?
              Quote: Svarog
              I liked your comment .. it is close to reality
              - how do you feel about the offer aybolyt678? shoot me or let me live?

              Quote: Svarog
              who did not read the program of the communists \ socialists ..
              -just conversely -read and excerpts from it cited repeatedly on the forum
              Quote: Svarog
              the election program of the same Grudinin
              - and I read it and also quoted excerpts repeatedly here
              Moreover - repeatedly gave examples of the fact that the Grudinin program and his statements CATEGORICALLY contrary to the program of the Communist Party.

              Quote: Svarog
              If we talk about youth .. then the one-room apartment is free, at the birth of the first child
              - This was not even pulled by the USSR (and having the opportunity to use free labor).


              Quote: Svarog
              it will be enough that the natural heritage of Russia will become popular .. really popular .. there will be enough money for a real increase in pensions and other benefits
              - it was already popular and? my grandmother having 50 years OFFICIAL seniority - received a pension of 26 rubles ....Collective farmer..... and there were those who received 7 rubles in their own collective farm. Mom said - in the village, the old man was envious of the rich ...

              and on the other hand, metal workers in the same village still collect abandoned metal across the fields. Abandoned human labor ....
              Everyone didn’t care - “Everything’s around the people, everything’s nobody's around!” Well, did Kirovets drown on drunkenness and why? The collective farm will give a new one !!. Well, they drove the seeders into a ravine and there you can’t get the dirt out ... Yes, and the demon is with them - tomorrow they will bring new ones from the region ....
              Gasoline poured into the ravines - because the end of the quarter, you have to choose the funds. The Dead Road and Sakhalin Tunnel were discussed yesterday
              And so the whole history of Soviet power, all 70 years
              Quote: Svarog
              But I assure you, within two years, youth, and indeed all citizens of Russia, will feel positive changes on themselves.
              - for starters, the economy will collapse. Due to the redistribution of property, foreign economic contracts will cease to work, the rich will begin to withdraw money over a hill massively, corrupt officials (new !!) plants that are under control will begin to muddle the schemes for withdrawing dough ...
              This is the TWICE It was done in Russia in the 20th century (in 1917 and 1991) - redistribution of property. And after each there was a devastation and sackers / shuttles ...
              What makes you think that the new redistribution will go according to some other scheme?
              After your redistribution -10 years, complete collapse and chaos in the industry- and then (maybe !!) something will improve. Only here is trouble, the current youth will not want to wait so much - it will ask you "and is this your socialism? !!"

              Z.Y. all that is happening in the village now is a consequence of the work of "sternum" in the 90s. First SKHK (SPK) - then AO- then ZAO .... and 95-97% of the property of the ZAO in the pocket of a particular person. That is why the city voted for it mainly - the village knows such people. city saw- "aaa in the same house with hard workers lives !!! ours !!! For the people !!!". Yeah, schaz .... ran away ....
              And if such (God forbid !!!) come to power - Zelensky against them will be Stalin
          3. SOVIET UNION 2 21 February 2020 22: 35 New
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            The whole question is what is considered socialism. They found you unconscious, documents and money. To save you or not? Socialism, they will save you. Capitalism will find out your identity and the availability of money. In the absence of money from you, saving you is not economically profitable! The question is, what social guarantees do we want for ourselves? I need nothing? Take top management. Do they have a high salary guarantee? If you wish, you can increase your salary and write a bonus. And upon dismissal and ** a golden parachute ** fuck. And for a low-paid job, I doubt that they will send someone (like they didn’t send anyone to work as a watchman). Yes, and at work they clearly have many benefits. And bonuses get even with bankruptcy and losses. And after all, none of them protests against social guarantees (socialism)! And some in the comments yell that socialism is shit! Shit!? Well, let’s link the income of senior management from their activities! The salary of the worker has grown, the salary of the leader has grown! The company's revenue fell, the head's income fell! Deputies and officials generally pay interest on the salary of the population. Salary fell, population declined, official and deputy income fell! So do weak? Or is it too capitalistic?
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          I do not agree. We have not yet experienced capitalism. But we are moving towards feudalism. See my comment in my stream. Socialism today is presented in the form of a vampire. It is strange that none of the authors of the articles discusses socialism and capitalism. Srach in the comments would be noble!
      3. SOVIET UNION 2 21 February 2020 21: 57 New
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        Well, the revolution is almost 30 years old! This time we are evolving. But this evolution is like degradation. Grapes fermented into wine, wine turns into vinegar. What do you offer? Distill wine into alcohol or turn into vinegar?
  2. AK1972 21 February 2020 13: 07 New
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    Quote: Arberes
    Well, let the income tax be reduced (say, 10% or 8%) to those who exist by 25-30 thousand per month.

    The article says this. Tax cuts from poor incomes will not bring to the budget. Only the introduction of a progressive scale will fill the budget and make it possible to increase pensions for low-income citizens.
    1. Arberes 21 February 2020 13: 17 New
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      Quote: AK1972
      The article says this. Tax cuts from poor incomes will not bring to the budget.

      Yes, I read it, dear AK1972 hi Is it just like a temporary alternative ?! When the progression comes, even the officials themselves do not know, but here as an option? At least steam is good.
    2. Arberes 21 February 2020 13: 34 New
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      The article says about a certain minimum that is not subject to taxation - how much should a citizen earn, so that he would not be taxed at all? Thousand 5t - 6t?
    3. SOVIET UNION 2 21 February 2020 22: 42 New
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      And to officials to make a piecework salary! The population has increased, your salary, you also have an increase. Decreased, you lost. Here put them on the percentage of salaries as contributions to the pension fund, then we look at their effectiveness as leaders. It is a pity that no one is promoting this option. Let's say everyone pays 0,5% to the management fund. From it is formed a management salary fund. Now, let the leadership attach all its friends and relatives to the leadership! What will be the output? All relatives and friends will become poor! There’s not enough dough for everyone! And the leadership will have to optimize the leadership apparatus! This is bad?
      ,
  3. Private89 24 February 2020 21: 40 New
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    Imagine
    Situation # 1 that all of Gazprom’s shareholders have disappeared along with the wonderful Miller, what do you think the next day, the gas station at Gazprom’s gas station will it be worse to put a gun into the car’s tank or the operator at the gas field will perform its duties worse or may their productivity decrease?
    Situation # 2
    Remarkable shareholders remained, and Miller, too, though all the other Gasprom employees and the gas station, and the operator, even the cleaner, disappeared. Question! Will shareholders be able to profit from an enterprise where no one works?
    I was visited by several thoughts:
    First thought:
    it turns out that all the profit and capital of Gazprom is born from the labor of its employees, and not the presence of shareholders
    Second thought:
    And the management functions (according to our management) can not be handled by an employee, for wages, and not for profit.
    Well, backfilling: why do we need this class of gentlemen.
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      Quote: Private 89
      I was visited by several thoughts:
      First thought:
      it turns out that all the profit and capital of Gazprom is born from the labor of its employees, and not the presence of shareholders
      Second thought:
      And with the management functions (in our management) an employee will cope for a salary, not for profit.
      Well, backfilling: why do we need this class of gentlemen.
      - it was already done already - VAZ 2105 and UAZ 469 did
      "Yes, the place is damned" © joke
      and so on the demonic cloud of positions (with the exception of the defense industry), the directors sat on salaries and exceeded the plan by 102% ....
  4. Bolbot 27 February 2020 18: 35 New
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    Pay attention to how much time is spent on political SHOWs for Ukraine, the USA, England, Syria, China, and everyone except their own country. I think it’s ok, it’s not casual.
  • Deck 21 February 2020 12: 11 New
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    Russia's problem is not that it is not possible to feed the poor. And the fact that the rich do not get drunk


    The problem is that the inhabitants of Russia allow this to be done.
  • Paul Siebert 21 February 2020 12: 32 New
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    Russia's problem is not that it is not possible to feed the poor. And the fact that the rich do not get drunk in any way. Son of the Seagull does not fit on the TV.

    There is a good joke on the topic:
    Running fox in the woods, out of breath. Towards the monkey:
    - From whom, redhead, are you escaping?
    - Yes, they introduced a new tax. On the fur. I'm afraid - they will lower the skin ...
    Monkey how to explode! I even overtook the fox. That of the last forces shouts after her:
    - Hey, macaque, you need something to fear in the Holozada?! ..
    - Why don’t I know the native government? .. And they will start from the Holozady! ... laughing
  • at84432384 21 February 2020 16: 17 New
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    That’s the whole trouble, our dear nouveau riche forgot what it all ends with. If you do not remember, you have to remind.
    1. SOVIET UNION 2 21 February 2020 22: 47 New
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      Who forgot? Why is November 7 not a holiday? So remember !? Why is there no coat of arms of the USSR and a portrait of Stalin on May 9? So remember !? If you change the system, who in the role of Danko?
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        Danko can only be collective-people. Otherwise, it will be like in Schwartz’s fairy tale “Kill the Dragon”, well, 30 years ago we already observed this ...
  • Livonetc 21 February 2020 13: 06 New
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    Quote: Gene84
    Quote: Livonetc
    Mexico, for example, has no army at all.

    In their power, the Mexican Armed Forces are considered second after Brazil.
    https://vpk.name/news/176896_samye_silnye_armii_latinskoi_ameriki.html

    “they do not have tanks, self-propelled guns, self-propelled guns, MLRS, submarines. The Air Force has only nine F-5 combat aircraft, the Navy has four old Knox-type frigates, two Israeli-built missile boats and no more units with any missiles”
    "Thus, the Mexican Armed Forces are incapable of waging a classical war even against a very mediocre army."
    https://topwar.ru/25035-latinoamerikanskaya-svalka-vooruzheniy.html
    1. depressant 21 February 2020 16: 37 New
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      Yes it was the other day. Not only Siluanov, but also Mishustin noted a categorical statement that the possibility of introducing a progressive tax can be considered only after 24 years.
      After all, what is happening?
      At the moment, there is a fierce bargaining between the government and the oligarchs over the substantial part of the law on investments, last year already adopted by the State Duma in the first reading. Well, somehow it is called differently, something like a law on co-financing. Apparently, the wealthy were already strongly recommended along with the state to invest in national projects. But gentlemen are demanding benefits in the form of amendments to the law that has not yet been adopted, the flow of which is inexhaustible. The government is forced to agree, since the state budget will not pull up projects; there are tens of trillions of rubles there for a decade. Therefore, bargaining is not only cruel, but also protracted. In addition to the benefits, the oligarchs require guarantees that the business will not be taken away, that at least for three years the tax conditions will not change. And in order not to frighten away the oligarchs, who at least somehow agreed to talk on this topic, there will be no discussions about the progressive tax in the coming years, forget it.
      How much time has been spent on persuading since the beginning of the tenth! As if the current nimble was not unsuccessful.
  • Miyamoto musasi 21 February 2020 21: 49 New
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    and where is Mexico, when the question is ribbed, the authorities are afraid of the rich, because it can go down with the dough, and the poor can’t go anywhere, because there’s nothing to blame and there’s no need when there is no money
  • tihonmarine 21 February 2020 09: 41 New
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    even the head of Sberbank German Gref stressed that he was ready to raise the tax on the rich to 20-25%
    Raven, a raven’s eye will not stick out. And here, if Gref said, then it means it was painful.
    1. bessmertniy 21 February 2020 09: 58 New
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      Well, the state is not ready. And why not introduce the so-called a "voluntary tax" that rich citizens themselves would calculate from the recommendations of the state and pay to it. And they would be proud of it too - that they contributed to the financial power of Russia more than it demanded of them! hi
      1. NordUral 21 February 2020 10: 39 New
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        Victor, you are a follower of Dickens! He also relied on the conscience of the capitalists and Lords, but in vain only.
      2. akunin 21 February 2020 12: 28 New
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        Quote: bessmertniy
        "voluntary tax"
        charity? How many philanthropists do we have?
        1. bessmertniy 21 February 2020 12: 35 New
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          That's right, today philanthropists and honest oligarchs hid in the basements and play in the black economy wink And they need to be given the opportunity to show how good and useful they are for the state in comparison with us - the Syrians, who with blood are tearing a penny from their family budget to pay taxes to the state. hi
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            honest oligarchs
            and there are some? Someone has earned billions with overwork, someone has created Windows, Google, Amazon and became a billionaire from scratch? such people live behind the hill, and those who create "ё" - mobiles - live with us.
      3. Alf
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        Quote: bessmertniy
        And why not introduce the so-called “voluntary tax” that rich citizens themselves would calculate from the recommendations of the state and pay it.

        Soully neighing! They do not want to pay these taxes, but you are talking about voluntary tax.
      4. SOVIET UNION 2 21 February 2020 23: 04 New
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        Reminded of roofing felts toke, true roofing felts. One lady wanted to fuck dough with a rich man. After talking with him, he gave her panties such as thongs 1 piece! She was indignant! To which she was answered. Expensive! I am a wealthy man and my time is worth a lot of money! I spent time with you, drove in an expensive car. And you owe me that! But I am a kind person! And so I gave you panties! Was there such a case or not, I do not know. But it seems to be true. Therefore, I will not be surprised at the counter statement. Guys! I invested in the purchase (rental) of land, bought (rented) equipment, paid for raw materials, for transportation, paid salaries, paid taxes. But do you want to fuck you with me ?! Maybe you owe me that?
    2. SOVIET UNION 2 21 February 2020 22: 53 New
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      Do you deprive yourself of income? It's like shooting yourself or depriving yourself of sight! Forget the progressive tax scale! Those who offer a progressive scale are not friends with the head! Are you ready to rob yourself of your legs or arms? No? And why? Sorry? Well, like that, and those who pass laws are sorry to lose a quarter of their income. To pass such a law, a president with a strong will, like Roosevelt, is needed. Do we have such a president?
  • Igor Borisov_2 21 February 2020 09: 42 New
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    the average man evaluates the effectiveness of the authorities not by how many villages were freed from militants in the Syrian province of Idlib or how things are done by Field Marshal Haftar in faraway Libya, but by his own financial situation, by the comfort of using public infrastructure and other benefits.

    Very accurately noticed - first of all, people are interested in their well-being. And with a Euro-3 car, it generally looks like a mockery of the population ....
    1. Gene84 21 February 2020 09: 45 New
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      Quote: Igor Borisov_2
      And with the Euro-3 car, it generally looks like a mockery of the population

      All policies pursued against ordinary people by statesmen look like a mockery of Russian citizens.
      1. bessmertniy 21 February 2020 10: 00 New
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        The common people in their view are mice and rabbits, on which you can put your ugly experiments at random. negative
        1. mat-vey 21 February 2020 10: 23 New
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          Quote: bessmertniy
          The common people in their view are mice and rabbits, on which you can put your ugly experiments at random. negative

          common people - the "second oil" ... both "deposits" are developed by the same methods.
      2. Arberes 21 February 2020 12: 06 New
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        Quote: Gene84
        looks like a mockery of the citizens of Russia.

        Yeah! Especially 1 ruble and 10 kopecks to the pension of this unfortunate woman. hi
      3. Deck 21 February 2020 12: 15 New
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        All policies pursued against ordinary people by statesmen look like a mockery of Russian citizens


        Why not. What, does anyone mind? I mean ordinary people. On the contrary, we support, approve, love! We hang magnets with a portrait on the refrigerator.
      4. cloud catcher 21 February 2020 12: 29 New
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        To see that for their civil servants their “activity” is a way of quick enrichment and at the same time there is no personal responsibility for officials whose expenses noticeably exceed official revenues is very sad ... But, I can still understand the rejection of the progressive income taxation scale individuals, with no need to replenish the budget at the expense of low-income citizens !! (1,1 trillion rubles of unspent funds for 2019).
        We have a socially-oriented state, so let us establish everywhere, and not only in wealthy municipalities, a certain minimum (I agree with the author) that would not be taxed on transport (corresponding to the real t / s in terms of power, not cart), housing earth.
      5. NordUral 21 February 2020 17: 45 New
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        If the people tolerate and is silent, then he is worthy of shame, and bullying, and humiliation!
    2. Tiksi-3 21 February 2020 10: 24 New
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      Quote: Igor Borisov_2
      And with a Euro-3 car, it generally looks like a mockery of the population ....

      and this, after they PROMISED to abolish this transport tax, They promised that it will be in the price of fuel, it has already risen in price 10 times, and no one has canceled the tax, dogs, so even Euro 3 is an anachronism for them, ..... though the quality of gasoline in general is at zero ... neither 98 (this is 92+ additives), nor 100 (92+ additives) and even 95 (it is almost all exported) are produced in the country, and in general I am silent about diesel - excess heavy fractions 30 times more than in the EU. .... and after that, ban Euro-3 (auto), it’s the same as increasing it !! .... would kill!
      1. akunin 21 February 2020 12: 37 New
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        after that you can promise everything, everything at all.
  • snifer 21 February 2020 09: 44 New
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    They attended to ecology, do not tell, Krasnoyarsk visibility meter, there is nothing to breathe, they on a drum. Money money, rubbish ...
    1. Pessimist22 21 February 2020 10: 01 New
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      5% of citizens, who have 97% of Russia's wealth, have taken care of, and as always, 95% of citizens, ordinary people with low salaries, pay in Russia, nothing new.
      1. mat-vey 21 February 2020 10: 16 New
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        Well, at least they got me sick, but I repeat - There are people who were born to live (5%), and there are those who were born to serve the economy. We need to understand.
        1. Gene84 21 February 2020 10: 24 New
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          Voltaire's philosophy clearly shows the disunity of classes in capitalist Russia. There are those who are born in wealth and wealthy with their great opportunities, and there are those who were born poor with their small capabilities. But under Soviet rule, all the same, the philosophy of Plato with the assertion that all people are born equal and with the same rights and opportunities, there was a place to be and was fully integrated into life. What was right.
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            Well now, power is closer to the Voltaire era.
          2. Arlen 21 February 2020 10: 44 New
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            Quote: Gene84
            Voltaire's Philosophy

            Voltaire is an interesting person. On the one hand, he defended the natural rights and freedoms of every person: life, liberty, security, the right to property, and universal equality without classes and estates. On the other hand, he divided society into two large groups: rich and educated people and uneducated and not rich, who must work for the upper class. At the same time, it is not necessary for the poor and working people to be educated, since their unnecessary education and incorrect reasoning can destroy the entire state system. How does this all look like today's capitalist Russia.
  • DMB 75 21 February 2020 09: 49 New
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    The main fear of the government is that wealthy Russians will begin to withdraw their capital abroad

    What kind of nonsense, the bourgeoisie long ago brought money abroad with their children and their mistresses.
    In the meantime, the ministers are discussing the prospects of taxation, in the Chelyabinsk region a pensioner received a pension increase of 1 ruble 10 kopecks.

    And this is true, except as a mockery and can not be called ...
    1. mat-vey 21 February 2020 10: 17 New
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      The main fear of the government is that wealthy Russians will begin to withdraw their capital abroad

      What kind of nonsense, the bourgeoisie long ago brought money abroad with their children and their mistresses.

      And if you increase taxes, then what to export? Have you thought about yacht builders?
    2. tihonmarine 21 February 2020 10: 19 New
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      What kind of nonsense, the bourgeoisie long ago brought money abroad with their children and their mistresses.

      Some also left, but those who remained, then have a second citizenship.
      1. Svarog 21 February 2020 14: 13 New
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        Quote: tihonmarine
        Quote: DMB 75
        What kind of nonsense, the bourgeoisie long ago brought money abroad with their children and their mistresses.

        Some also left, but those who remained, then have a second citizenship.

        Yes, they are working as migrant workers here .. as soon as they smell fried they will immediately give the fellow over the hill .. and there everything is already ready for a happy retirement ..
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          Bandera also ran away, it didn’t help him much.
  • Gene84 21 February 2020 09: 53 New
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    The tax policy of the Russian state in the next few years will not change

    How not to change. This year envd ceases to be valid. This is a blow to small business! Small business makes ends meet ate, and so it’s such a “gift” from the state!
  • Boris55 21 February 2020 09: 55 New
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    Quote: I. Polonsky
    ... salaries have not been raised for a long time, then he will inevitably have questions for lawmakers, and for the government, and for the head of state.

    And to the trade unions, whose task is precisely to defend the interests of workers, do you have any complaints? If no one opposes the bourgeois, then they do what they want. We recall the heritage of our grandfathers:

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      Quote: Boris55
      We recall the heritage of our grandfathers

      Our grandfathers threw off the power of the bourgeoisie and drove them out of the country! But new ones appeared that were no better than those bourgeois.
      Quote: Boris55
      And to the unions, whose task is precisely to defend the interests of workers

      But do they not represent the interests of the state unions? Are they type independent of the state? Can't power influence trade unions or can it? So there’s nothing to blame for the unions. The authorities also control the trade unions. This is totally my personal opinion.
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        Quote: Gene84
        But new ones appeared that were no better than those bourgeois.

        So such a grandson was born to his grandfather, who
        Quote: Gene84
        Our grandfathers threw off the power of the bourgeoisie and drove them out of the country!
    2. mat-vey 21 February 2020 10: 19 New
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      There have been no questions to the "trade unions" for a long time.
      1. Boris55 21 February 2020 10: 59 New
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        Quote: Gene84
        The authorities also control the trade unions.
        Quote: mat-vey
        There have been no questions to the "trade unions" for a long time.

        In order to create trade unions defending the interests of workers, it is necessary for all of us to chip in their content, but since the bourgeoisie through the media controlled by them cultivate individualism in us and regularly scare all kinds of scammers, it will be very difficult to do this, but this is the only relatively peaceful way to defend the workers their rights: an 8-hour working day, a 40-hour week with two days off or 7 a six-day working day ... and much more that we lost during the restructuring.

        And by the way, no one had the idea to enter this into the current Constitution?

        The Constitution of 1977.
        "Article 41. Citizens of the USSR have the right to rest.
        This right is ensured by the establishment for workers and employees of the working week, not exceeding 41 hours, of a shorter working day for a number of professions and industries, and a shorter working time at night; the provision of annual paid vacations, days of weekly rest, ... "
        1. mat-vey 21 February 2020 11: 01 New
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          Here, more likely, lawyers will have to take off for protection.
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            it’s more likely that lawyers will also have to defend themselves.

            And it’s the same. And retirement and family support, if we do not save ...
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              In the current conditions, these should be people courageously comparable to front-line scouts ...
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              if we don’t save

              If we don’t save ... What exactly do not save? Power?
  • stas-xnumx 21 February 2020 10: 01 New
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    Yes, because, between those creatures above, and the people below, a thick plate of lead ... Through which nothing is visible from above ... And there are no attempts to look, but how do people live ??? Guns and machine guns are more important, well, corefans of childhood are held in high esteem at distribution ...
  • knn54 21 February 2020 10: 02 New
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    It’s interesting, but what kind of pension (all the same age) does Haftar have?
    1. Gene84 21 February 2020 10: 17 New
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      Quote: knn54
      It’s interesting, but what kind of pension (all the same age) does Haftar have?

      But who knows? I personally do not care what his pension is. Let him deal with pension himself in Libya.
    2. V.I.P. 21 February 2020 10: 20 New
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      I’ll tell you what kind of pension a Brazilian police officer has, a sergeant-2500 US dollars ..... A retired police sergeant of the Russian Federation receives 8600 rubles !!! If it completes up to 20 calendars, then 13000 with copecks (it depends on the region, but the central regions get it that way) ... ... So think about which country belongs to the category of the third world!)))) ....
  • Baloo 21 February 2020 10: 05 New
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    Haftar or Mukhtar-violet to me. I have a bad vision, I do not have time to make out money, as they are not. crying
    1. bessmertniy 21 February 2020 10: 12 New
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      To me, he is also violet - this Libyan field marshal. From him and this penny pension that awaits me from the state, I will not see. And for my eyesight, Balu, I worry even more - I’m afraid that when I need to look at my pension, I won’t be able to see any money at all. Not because I hate them, but because the pension money will simply blind me. recourse
  • To be or not to be 21 February 2020 10: 07 New
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    What do people care about? The answer is given ..
    No wonder that in St. Petersburg a woman suddenly asked a question to the President ..
    Putin agreed with a Petersburger that it is difficult to live on 10,8 thousand rubles a month
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      Quote: To be or not to be
      difficult to live on 10,8 thousand rubles a month

      Isn’t it difficult to live by 13000 rubles a month?
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      Nits .. what else to add ..
    3. Svarog 21 February 2020 14: 16 New
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      Putin agreed with a Petersburger that it is difficult to live on 10,8 thousand rubles a month

      It would be very interesting if Putin, like many here in the VO, began to convince that it was possible to live on that money ... But in general, Putin agrees with many things, promises a lot .. yes, to the point ... The one who cheated once, Yes, and for the whole country, trust does not cause more ..
  • Snail N9 21 February 2020 10: 08 New
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    Here the "constitutional" reform is being "openly prepared" and the "tax maneuver" and "further privatization" are being secretly prepared. Do you find many articles on these topics in the Russian media? They also need to be searched, and with a “magnifying glass”, but everything is “littered” with articles about Idlib, Haftar, various types of KhPPs, “dodging a fighter jet”, “the West appreciated the weapons of Russia,” “Kudrin saw,” “about to heal” and others bullshit ... I personally, when I want to find out what is really happening in the country, after visiting the "news feed", I go to YaPlakal - probably on this resource, you can really and only find out how and what a huge country lives ...
  • megadeth 21 February 2020 10: 18 New
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    What is going on in Syria and Libya is violet for most of our people (a distraction), but the fact that the next tax specialist came to the post (who remembered serving in the army), this people should alert ... Come up with a formula for successful economic development in Russia, people are doomed the authorities cannot and will not .... It remains to come up with increasingly sophisticated methods of taking money from the poor, which in our country are unfortunately the majority.
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      Quote: megadeth
      To come up with a formula for successful economic development in Russia, people doomed by power cannot and will not ....

  • rocket757 21 February 2020 10: 26 New
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    So what worries the Russians more: how is Field Marshal Haftar doing or the socio-economic situation in the Russian Federation?

    The standard way to divert attention!
    The tax policy of the Russian state will not change in the next few years, while it is not planned to significantly increase pensions. Such a conclusion can be made by analyzing the statements of the ministers and the general situation with taxes, insurance contributions and pensions in Russia.

    This, just for people, should be very important, but ... probably not many are interested in this, because BORING!
  • Chaldon48 21 February 2020 10: 28 New
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    By such a social policy, the authorities are sawing the branch on which the silent majority can lose patience.
  • God save the king 21 February 2020 10: 30 New
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    Another ravings of liberals and democrats.
    The normal socio-economic situation in Russia is certainly better than in Ukraine. but the army is much more important.
    I urge the forum users to change their minds and not buzz, you do not want to like in Europe "ecoterroristsactivists "round dance games arranged.
    1. Deniska999 21 February 2020 10: 36 New
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      Maybe normal, but we don’t care about Haftar from a high bell tower.
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        But do not care about the national interests of the fatherland.
        Yes, and Haftar does not attract much attention. In the morning I watched the news at the first, there they did not mention him at all.
        1. Deniska999 21 February 2020 10: 39 New
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          Haftar and national interests are two diametrically opposed things. Yes, and it is worth distinguishing between national interests and the interests of the ruling elites.
    2. Roman070280 21 February 2020 11: 09 New
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      Another ravings of liberals and democrats.
      The normal socio-economic situation in Russia, certainly better than in Ukraine. but the army is much more important.

      Well, yes .. the richest country on the planet, making a breakthrough after a breakthrough .. with a great history, culture .. an incomparable heritage .. it remains only to compare yourself with 404, where they can only jump, burn tires, and throw stones at their own ..
      And for some liberals and democrats, all this is a normal situation ..


      I urge the forum users to think better and not buzz, you don’t want the “ecoterrorists-activists” to organize round-robin geyparads in Europe.
      Well, yes .. if the socio-economic situation in Russia improves, it will immediately lead to the appearance of geyparads .. The logic of liberalists and democrats ..))
    3. Revival 21 February 2020 11: 17 New
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      It is very significant that in order to at least stand out for the better, such as to show what is better with us, you had to give a comparison with the absolute bottom in the form of a colony of Ukraine
  • lopuhan2006 21 February 2020 10: 31 New
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    I love and am proud of my Motherland, but I hate my state and despise those who are in power or are feeding alongside it and supporting its image ....
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  • Lamata 21 February 2020 10: 41 New
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    And money is withdrawn even at 13% of personal income tax, at least you make a zero rate, fat cats will still withdraw. And a brow, even with 44 rubles, to save for yourself in a house in Spain and an airbag is not realistic.
  • lopuhan2006 21 February 2020 10: 51 New
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    The state is people ... and you hate them.
    Therefore, you would go from here, Russophobe.

    There is no friend, people live where they were born, and the state is formed on the territory and locality based on historical events, and this is not the same thing. And it’s not for you to tell me here with your Habsburg nickname about Russophobes. I read a lot of fairy tales, you’re also talking about goddessaryahrani booty here too.
  • Erich 21 February 2020 10: 51 New
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    I believe that there is no need to raise taxes on the rich. For me it’s better to make a tax-free amount for the population. It is necessary to manage taxes more efficiently and not increase their amount. The article contains an interesting phrase about comparing a 13% tax for a person with 20 rubles and, with, conditionally, 000 rubles, they say how is it that the percentage is the same and the latter still has more. Well, as the second one pays more and besides this still carries risks, and for these risks he receives more. And the fact that with a tax on the rich they will simply bring everything into the shadows and offshore is good if so. For any action, there is equal in strength and opposite in direction. Everything is natural.
    1. Revival 21 February 2020 11: 20 New
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      Something in the EU and the United States did not run too far to deduce, but when you try to deduce, they catch it anywhere and the dates give very sensitive
      1. Erich 21 February 2020 11: 55 New
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        They control the global financial system)) You compare disparate things)) Moreover, according to a recent investigation about offshore companies, there are many foreign companies))
        1. Revival 21 February 2020 12: 19 New
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          Clear.
          We are, by default, helpless and useless
          1. Erich 21 February 2020 16: 32 New
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            I would not say that they are helpless and useless. The main thing is not to cheat your cheeks and calmly do your job)) But how can you not read the news, so we all have "no analogue in the world"))
            1. Revival 21 February 2020 16: 37 New
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              I agree with this.
              Praised in advance above the roof, and then even if it’s not quite objective, it immediately looks like a failure (deflection, etc., according to the situation) because of these loud boasts.
              1. Erich 21 February 2020 18: 18 New
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                It's right))
    2. Lamata 21 February 2020 12: 06 New
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      And then, what is the progressive taxation scale in Europe? and in your favorite states?
      1. Erich 21 February 2020 14: 58 New
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        Well, if you like the states then focus on them))
        1. Lamata 21 February 2020 16: 10 New
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          Kremlin sitters are guided by them, they are partners 0))))
          1. Erich 21 February 2020 16: 31 New
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            apparently somehow they solve this issue)) So they are sure of the security of capital "there" and taxes do not scare them much))
            1. Lamata 21 February 2020 16: 39 New
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              Yes, here, in Russia, it’s scary to store, but there is also a shining city on a hill))))
              1. Erich 21 February 2020 18: 17 New
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                The actions of large business speaks of this))) They then all fools are stored abroad, it turns out that they need to be stored here)) I am a supporter of the fact that this is their money, let them dispose as they want))
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                  Alf 21 February 2020 20: 21 New
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                  Quote: Erich
                  I am a supporter that it is their money,

                  This is the money they stole from the country.
                  1. Erich 21 February 2020 21: 03 New
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                    I'm talking about ordinary businessmen
                2. Lamata 21 February 2020 21: 04 New
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                  Wait a minute, unpaid taxes, small salaries are not their money, but ours and the budget of the Russian Federation.
                  1. Erich 21 February 2020 21: 25 New
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                    If taxes were underpaid by law (consider optimized, this also happens), this is one thing, and if they were hidden, then this is a violation and should be punished. And about the RFP, is it higher than the minimum wage? If so, what questions? Do not like it, do not work, if below the minimum wage it is a violation and you need to severely fine the employer for it.
                    1. Lamata 21 February 2020 21: 29 New
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                      Do you live on a minimum wage?
                      1. Erich 21 February 2020 21: 34 New
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                        No, I live on those funds that I get paid for doing work (not hired) on the project or by the hour. At one time, I already lived on a minimum wage and do not want to anymore, because for more than 8 years I have been engaged in self-education in my professional field. And I used to work at the Chelyabinsk Plant in Chelyabinsk (a factory) in the private sector at the timber processing and harvesting site, I started from a regular loader and went to the sawmill operator (I don’t even remember what the sawmill is), now I’m creating software, very rarely design and microelectronics (programming). A bit of application architecture and administration. I also try not to store funds in rubles, but withdraw them in greens or stocks (purely for the sake of interest, my investments are scanty). I think that I can manage my money at my discretion.
                      2. Lamata 21 February 2020 21: 43 New
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                        I respect, but it doesn’t work out everywhere, and not everyone can do it. An example, a good friend, he worked as an engineer with a bone structure at Rostvertol, for 16, he was reduced, his age at that time was 000, he got hooked, he went again, but even by 48
                      3. Erich 21 February 2020 22: 09 New
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                        It is necessary to increase the minimum wage or better to do the "lower standards" for each specialty. It is necessary to strictly regulate these issues here, the low legal literacy of the population, coupled with the greed of a businessman, gives us similar cases
                      4. Lamata 21 February 2020 22: 15 New
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                        About legal literacy is not always the case, in large cities, where access to information is greater, it is growing, but greed, yes !!! I worked for 3 years as a lawyer in the Southern Federal District at L Etoile. so it just went through the roof as the store staff tyrannized, and when asked about raising sn, you don’t like it, go away. For example, sn. Director of the store was in 2013 17 000 p. to personal income tax, sellers, from 12 to 000 to personal income tax, there were bonuses, but not every month, and were always cut to the maximum.
                      5. Erich 21 February 2020 22: 22 New
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                        It is necessary to control everything at the legislative level, to appeal to the conscience of one who has reached the dene is the same as extinguishing a fire with gas, unfortunately. If I had employees, I would certainly pay them not 20 rubles, but more. ZP should not detract from the work of man, on the contrary, it should motivate him.
                      6. Lamata 21 February 2020 23: 29 New
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                        Barygs believe that any sn above the mole is already motivation.
                      7. Erich 22 February 2020 08: 48 New
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                        There would be a minimum wage, then hucksters would have thought that they simply already have a great honor))
  • lopuhan2006 21 February 2020 10: 53 New
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    Quote: To be or not to be
    What do people care about? The answer is given ..
    No wonder that in St. Petersburg a woman suddenly asked a question to the President ..
    Putin agreed with a Petersburger that it is difficult to live on 10,8 thousand rubles a month

    You hold on ....
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      Quote: lopuhan2006
      You hold on ....

      most importantly, what is the answer! -""I understand. Therefore, we are now implementing a whole program to support families with children. Great program "
      To a specific question, blah blah, they say we have been thinking about this for 20 years, we know it for 20 years, but it’s not possible to solve it for 20 years!
      And how sweetly promised!
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        twenty!!! Twenty!!! From too old !!!! And not a single law in favor of people, only restrictions and punitive
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          Quote: lopuhan2006
          twenty!!! Twenty!!! From too old !!!! And not a single law in favor of people, only restrictions and punitive

          But Elbasy plans to become ..
  • Dizel200 21 February 2020 10: 55 New
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    And why not make tax more flexible? Why radically increase the tax on the rich 20-25%, and say for example 16%? It seems that there is not too much from 13%, but there will be substantial revenue to the budget, and the government can be dismissed, they say we have a progressive scale))) And with regard to the shadow sector, it’s not only because of taxes that the withdrawal of funds, the reasons are deeper. It is necessary to rebuild the entire structure of power and the economy, and these are reforms, and nobody knows, does not know how and does not want to do them.
  • Essex62 21 February 2020 10: 56 New
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    The country, in social terms, has returned 100 years ago. You can only be indignant until you turn blue. In geyrops, among the bourgeois authorities, their people tear out meat. The laws there are no less severe and crush the working class, for resistance to robbery, mercilessly. However, they fight.
  • Roman070280 21 February 2020 11: 04 New
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    The main concern of the government is that wealthy Russians will begin to withdraw their capital abroad, Russia's attractiveness for investors will decrease, an already huge shadow sector will grow. But it seems that without raising taxes on the rich, many social problems cannot be solved.


    It’s hard not to agree with this ..
    Let’s say, at my “private” enterprise, business owners have quite a million incomes ... despite the fact that the employees of the RFP are 20 thousand .. and they have the same accounting department .. (neighing wildly when he found out what else and some subsidies are received from the state) .. What doesn’t prevent you from having a bunch of apartments, cottages, and a fleet of ranges, merces and tuaregs ..
    And now, looking at it, I thought repeatedly .. but what can I do ?? Well, so that a person with a million at least has already paid 130 thousand to the treasury .. It is clear that here, as much as the tax is not raised, zero will remain zero ..
    It seems to me that the simplest and most effective one is not the income tax .. they will always be hidden and hidden ..
    A tax is required on expenses !! Actually, we pay it so .. in the form of VAT ..
    But, this tax DOES NOT pay !! And therefore, it could be increased (by canceling the income, which is still in the shade) ..
    And now, when a person could not manage millions / billions without paying from this to the treasury, it would be possible to go further .. by introducing a progressive scale of VAT ..
    For a loaf of bread, a sausage pot - 10% .. for a fret grant - 13% .. for 600mers - 30% .. For a yacht - 40% ..
    For the withdrawal of capital abroad - 50% ..
    1. Revival 21 February 2020 12: 22 New
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      Eco you grabbed ... shhh
      Do not tell anyone.
      Our bones lie so as not to ratify article 20 of the Convention on the Suppression of Corruption, which stipulates reporting on income and expenses. This is then a quiet horror for some.
      This is also the question of the very mandatory implementation of "international laws" because of the imperfection of the constitution.
      Without any amendments, they refuse to ratify Article 20 and nothing
  • Million 21 February 2020 11: 08 New
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    The current state can already be called the enemy of the country!
    1. Svarog 21 February 2020 14: 19 New
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      Quote: Million
      The current state can already be called the enemy of the country!

      Rather, the enemy of the country's population or the enemy of the people ..
  • prior 21 February 2020 11: 10 New
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    Survived ...
    You write honestly - it sounds like a call to overthrow the existing system with all the consequences ...
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      Quote: prior
      Survived ...
      You write honestly - it sounds like a call to overthrow the existing system with all the consequences ...

      Not this way.
      Tell me the good-attracted to the distribution of fakes.
      You’ll tell me the bad thing-they’re tense for insulting the authorities.
  • ivagulin 21 February 2020 11: 23 New
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    Is it interesting that the civil service should earn money, or are we state employees ?! This is to the fact that I calculated how much money brought to the state in this not-so-"money" month -150 thousand. The premium for this from the state over the past month amounted to 2 thousand. Cool. And all the money that we earn goes to another state - Muscovy. "No money, but you hold on."
  • bandabas 21 February 2020 11: 30 New
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    It’s not funny for a long time ...
  • New Year day 21 February 2020 12: 24 New
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    ... an ordinary layman assesses the effectiveness of the authorities not by how many villages were freed from militants in the Syrian province of Idlib or how things are done by Field Marshal Haftar in faraway Libya, but by his own material situation

    this is a no brainer. But when THERE, with popular support and love, you can shrug it off, then ingest, and then abuse it. "Bronzed" power, flights with Siberian Cranes turned their heads
  • lopuhan2006 21 February 2020 12: 50 New
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    Quote: Million
    The current state can already be called the enemy of the country!

    Here with awareness begins the insight))))
  • iouris 21 February 2020 14: 19 New
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    Citizens voted. Now the issue under consideration is the competence of the president, not citizens.
  • magadan72 21 February 2020 17: 37 New
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    A good article ... SORRY THAT THE MINISTERS ARE ... IG ON SUCH Trivia AS SIMPLE PEOPLE ...
    The electoral plan and the promise of the deputy - "Improve the standard of living of people - a list of people is attached ..."
  • camo ridges 21 February 2020 17: 39 New
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    There is nothing to argue. Every year there are more and more poor people in Russia,
    and most importantly, what depresses is the hopelessness of this state of affairs,
    no clearance in the future is visible at the present
    domestic politics. It seemed to many that not brilliant mind
    Medvedev blurted out his “ingenious” phrase in Crimea without thinking
    but he simply announced the essence of this very inner
    policies pursued by the country's leadership. Money for the people
    there will not be and will not, and it will probably have to hold on for a very long time.
    I think until patience runs out, as has happened more than once
    in Russia...
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      Quote: Camo Gryadshi
      It seems that until patience runs out, as has happened more than once in Russia ...

      In Russia, not in the Russian Federation. If "patience runs out", it will be like in the Former Ukrainian SSR (BU SSR). You have to live a long time, then you will live to see everything.
      And who can objectively assess the "socio-economic situation"? I would not take it. In the USSR, "everyone lived badly," and then it turned out that one could live much worse. Now communism is possible only for the elite and they are already elected.
  • Aleks2000 23 February 2020 21: 15 New
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    Did you seriously believe in Haftar or retirement ???
  • KSVK 24 February 2020 17: 01 New
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    Or maybe still "bang"?
    After all, when there is nothing to lose, maybe something will change somewhere?