Against the background of aggravation in Idlib, the Turkish Defense Minister asked about the readiness of the S-400


Against the background of a sharp aggravation of the situation in Idlib and conflicting data about Turkey’s request to the United States for the supply of Patriot air defense systems, Turkish Minister of Defense Hulusi Akar asked about the readiness of the S-400 air defense system. This question itself, sounded from the lips of Turkish journalists, makes it clear that certain forces in Turkey are also considering the situation in Syria through the prism of the possibilities of using the S-400 Triumph.


From the answer of Hulusi Akar to the question about the deployment time of Russian-made anti-aircraft missile systems:

Many said that we will not be able to acquire these air defense systems at all. But our president gave the necessary answers, and we acquired the S-400. They will come into operation soon, do not hesitate. Full testing is scheduled for April.

According to the Turkish Minister of Defense, talks about the Patriot air defense system are carried out “by inertia”. Hulusi Akar recalled that Ankara for several years tried to conclude a contract with the United States for the supply of these complexes, but was refused.

Turkish Defense Minister Akar:

That is why we went for the purchase of S-400.

In this regard, experts are asking: will the exacerbation in Syria lead to the fact that the Turkish armed forces decide to use the S-400 against airplanes of the SAR and the Russian Air Force? And today in the region two countries possess S-400 Triumph complexes - Turkey (until the S-400 is deployed for possible use) and Russia (based on the Khmeimim base in Syria).

In Turkey itself, it is noted that "Ankara will not go to a military confrontation with Russia, since it will be beneficial to the regional opponents of Turkey."
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  1. Vyacheslav Viktorovich 21 February 2020 08: 17 New
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    According to the Turkish Minister of Defense, talks about the Patriot air defense system are carried out “by inertia”.
    And yesterday they managed to refute that they are being conducted at all.

    Hulusi Akar recalled that Ankara for several years tried to conclude a contract with the United States for the supply of these complexes, but was refused.
    This is also a very strange statement, the United States directly offered them Patriot in exchange for the rejection of the S-400.

    In general, Turkey now has more reasons to refuse to buy the S-400 than not to refuse - here Russia can be avenged for Idlib, and you can return to the F-35 program - Turkey clearly did not expect that it would encounter either problem when I decided to buy the S-400.
    1. dSK
      dSK 21 February 2020 09: 00 New
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      They managed to complete the South Stream, and the Nord Stream-2 was stuck. Germany gave a few "bonuses".
  2. Lamata 21 February 2020 08: 17 New
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    Interestingly, ours provided in the export version with 400, the ability to block work, if that.
    1. spirit 21 February 2020 08: 23 New
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      That being said: don’t go to the grandmother hi Therefore, talk about Patriot
      1. Lamata 21 February 2020 08: 24 New
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        Yes, but the Americans did not provide for the hearty liberals and democrats hi
    2. Jack O'Neill 21 February 2020 08: 24 New
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      Of course no. No one in their right mind will do this, because in the future no one will buy anything from us.
      No arms seller can do that!
      1. Vyacheslav Viktorovich 21 February 2020 08: 32 New
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        I also think that there are no bookmarks there. In addition to reputation losses, such a bookmark is also a vulnerability. If the enemy detects it, he will be able to use it to defuse Russian-made air defense systems.
        1. Lamata 21 February 2020 10: 24 New
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          The export option is always less effective than for yourself. TTX reduced. so, it’s not a fact that there isn’t, and it’s hard to find. Remember the story with the gift of the pioneers of the USSR to Amerovsky after the late forties, when they gave him a coat of arms of ours. Ours, too, are not sewn.
          1. Vyacheslav Viktorovich 21 February 2020 10: 29 New
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            A bookmark disarming the air defense system and a bug are disparate risks. Detecting a bug only results in the bug being eliminated.
            1. Lamata 21 February 2020 10: 45 New
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              I just gave an example, and technically only suggested what could be. There’s a lot of talk about bookmarks in Boeing that fly in Russia, about computers.
              1. Vyacheslav Viktorovich 21 February 2020 10: 57 New
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                Maybe it’s all, and fantasies with conspiracy theories go for every taste and color. These are not the considerations that it makes sense to focus on.
            2. Piramidon 21 February 2020 12: 35 New
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              Quote: Vyacheslav Viktorovich
              A bookmark disarming the air defense system and a bug are disparate risks. Detecting a bug only results in the bug being eliminated.

              Why is it necessary some kind of "bug" and a complete lock? As an option, the S-400 recognition system can identify Russian aircraft as “their own” and “refuse” to shoot at them. For others, it will work in full. IMHO.
              1. Vyacheslav Viktorovich 21 February 2020 12: 48 New
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                Quote: Piramidon
                For others, it will work in full.
                The friend-or-foe system recognizes “friends” using regularly updated code, so it makes no sense to select it. If she continues to identify “her” as “her” with the help of some tightly sewn code, then it can be distinguished by cryptanalysis and used to block the air defense system any day.
                1. Piramidon 21 February 2020 16: 12 New
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                  Quote: Vyacheslav Viktorovich
                  Quote: Piramidon
                  For others, it will work in full.
                  The friend-or-foe system recognizes “friends” using regularly updated code, so it makes no sense to select it. If she continues to identify “her” as “her” with the help of some tightly sewn code, then it can be distinguished by cryptanalysis and used to block the air defense system any day.

                  The code, it seems, can be entered centrally. They will introduce their own, and at the same time the Turks.
        2. ghby 21 February 2020 11: 07 New
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          Quote: Vyacheslav Viktorovich
          I also think that there are no bookmarks there.

          Knowledge of all work algorithms is already a "bookmark"
    3. orionvitt 21 February 2020 13: 50 New
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      Quote: Lamata
      the ability to block work, if that

      The possibility of "interesting bookmarks", in military equipment, especially in such a high-tech, that's how it is. primarily. Our designers are no more stupid than western ones.
    4. vladcub 21 February 2020 14: 27 New
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      I don’t know about the "blocking", but most likely it is programmed: "do not touch your own"
  3. Victor_B 21 February 2020 08: 18 New
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    The undersultan now has a headache with terrible power!
    Solid zugzwang!
    What don’t do - everything is WORSE!
  4. Livonetc 21 February 2020 08: 18 New
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    That is, Turkey declares the following about the Russian Federation.
    "An inconvenient but necessary partner."
    By the way.
    It was the Russian Federation that warned Turkey about preparing a military coup.
    1. Lamata 21 February 2020 08: 25 New
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      for which grateful Ottomans shot down our plane.
      1. Aviator_ 21 February 2020 08: 31 New
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        The sequence was different - first an airplane, then an attempted coup.
        1. Lamata 21 February 2020 10: 22 New
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          Thanks, I just don’t remember exactly. But it turns out that the Russian Federation, in gratitude for the downed plane, helped this radish.
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          2. vladcub 21 February 2020 14: 44 New
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            I think the following chain was here: the Sultan, of course, was a watchdog, but he was more or less clear. Gulen is an extremist with a dubious acquaintance.
            Personally, you would prefer to let the bastard, but an adequate neighbor, a cheerful psychopath
            1. Lamata 21 February 2020 20: 28 New
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              No, I do not prefer, but Erdogan's yaw is very annoying.
          3. Aviator_ 21 February 2020 15: 17 New
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            It was a political game - Erdogan's successor would be 100% pro-American, so Erdogan was saved during the coup. Naturally, he’s not a friend to us, he’s an accidental companion.
  5. rocket757 21 February 2020 08: 20 New
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    In Turkey itself, it is noted that "Ankara will not go to a military confrontation with Russia, since it will be beneficial to the regional opponents of Turkey."

    Let's see what happens. Obvious or unbelievable.
  6. Sergey Averchenkov 21 February 2020 08: 21 New
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    Turkey has an inferior S-400. Only an unintelligent person will sell weapons without lowering their performance characteristics. This is a common practice.
    1. Volodin 21 February 2020 08: 25 New
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      Quote: Sergey Averchenkov
      Turkey has an inferior S-400.

      And what is the "inferior" S-400? If the sultan pecks somewhere, then with these "inferior" he can very well land all Syrian aviation. I won’t talk about Russian, I would like to believe that in this regard there is immunity and that the sale was really “smart” ...
      1. Sergey Averchenkov 21 February 2020 08: 28 New
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        Limited range, bookmarks ... And how do you like?
        1. Volodin 21 February 2020 08: 38 New
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          Quote: Sergey Averchenkov
          Limited range, bookmarks ...

          Regarding the "limited range": the length from west to east of the province of Idlib is 100-120 kilometers. Already this range even the "inferior" will master.
          I will not speak about “bookmarks,” as I already said - I would like to hope that something like that exists, but where is the guarantee that the Turks will not be able to bypass these “bookmarks” and get additional information for themselves ...
          In general, the sale of the latest weapons on the money of their own credit initially looked a little strange. But, they say, this is a “thought-out policy” ... Well ... Therefore, now it remains to hope for “bookmarks” and “inferiority”
          1. Sergey Averchenkov 21 February 2020 08: 41 New
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            Yes, no guarantee. Something like this.
          2. askort154 21 February 2020 10: 22 New
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            Volodin...About the "limited range": the length from west to east of the province of Idlib is 100-120 kilometers. Already this range even the "inferior" will master.

            Alex, let me disagree with you. I was not too lazy, picked up a ruler and a map. And that’s what happened. S-400 are located under Ankara. From Ankara to the border with Syria 450 - 500 km. So the "Turkish" S-400, even to the Syrian border is not "reach". Apparently therefore, they asked the United States to put them "patriots" (if this is today's infa, not fake). hi
            1. Grits 21 February 2020 11: 17 New
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              Quote: askort154
              I was not too lazy, picked up a ruler and a map. And that’s what happened. S-400 are located under Ankara. From Ankara to the border with Syria 450 - 500 km. So the "Turkish" S-400, even to the Syrian border is not "reach".

              Do they have their wheels turned off?
              1. askort154 21 February 2020 12: 04 New
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                Gritsa ..... Do they have the wheels turned off?

                Firstly, the S-400 complex, this is not a couple of “KAMAZ” vehicles (today here, and tomorrow there). Turkey did not buy them for "dragging" around the country. She installed them not to protect Idlib, but to protect the state’s capital, Ankara. hi
                1. Grits 21 February 2020 15: 38 New
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                  Quote: askort154
                  Firstly, the S-400 complex, this is not a couple of “KAMAZ” vehicles (today here, and tomorrow there). Turkey did not buy them for "dragging" around the country. She installed them not to protect Idlib, but to protect the state’s capital, Ankara.

                  Some stupid Turks. Why overpaid money for the MOBILE complex? Indeed, to protect Ankara, it could simply be installed by sticking it in concrete.
          3. Lamata 21 February 2020 13: 27 New
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            Well, what a leader of the Siberian Cranes and an honored underwater archaeologist thought out policy. If only as a moshna it’s harder to fill and save the state from the people.
            1. Paranoid50 21 February 2020 20: 36 New
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              Quote: Lamata
              Well, what

              Well, what kind of adequacy can a branch of a bastard, shaking ether with heresy, have? wink
      2. Steen 21 February 2020 12: 08 New
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        IMHO, I think that the "inferior" are those people who lobbied and gave permission to sell a very serious complex to a potential enemy, especially to a member of the hostile bloc.
        1. Lamata 21 February 2020 16: 24 New
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          So the Greeks sold our weapons, and China can not be called our ally.
  7. Retvizan 8 21 February 2020 08: 22 New
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    The question is for those who understand: Can the export version of the C400 work on Russian planes, or is it leaving the “alien” system there?
    1. Vyacheslav Viktorovich 21 February 2020 08: 35 New
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      You must regularly download the latest codes to your friend or foe system, otherwise it is useless.
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  8. Sergey Averchenkov 21 February 2020 08: 24 New
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    By the way, who read Dostoevsky ""? My moderators do not miss this word ... Maybe they will let Dostoevsky go?
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    2. Grits 21 February 2020 11: 20 New
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      Quote: Sergey Averchenkov
      By the way, who read Dostoevsky ""? My moderators do not miss this word ... Maybe they will let Dostoevsky go?

      Do not be surprised, moderators still do not miss the professional words of doctors of psychotherapists, dog handlers and sometimes ethnographers.
      But Dostoevsky, I think, many of them did not read at all.
      1. Salty 21 February 2020 11: 33 New
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        Quote: Gritsa
        moderators still do not miss the professional words of psychotherapists, dog handlers and sometimes ethnographers.
        But Dostoevsky, I think, many of them did not read at all

        I understand and share your indignation, but the moderators in this case have nothing to do with it, and the robot policeman cuts out the mentioned words.
        1. Grits 21 February 2020 15: 28 New
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          Quote: SaltY
          and the mentioned words are cut out by a robot policeman.

          I'm afraid to even imagine this monster ....
          1. Salty 21 February 2020 16: 13 New
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            Quote: Gritsa
            I'm afraid to even imagine this monster ....

            Corrector robot.

            <! - filter: <! - filter: <! - filter: <! - filter: author -> author -> author -> author <! - / filter -> -> author <! - / filter -> -> author <! - / filter -> -> author <! - / filter ->
            1. Grits 21 February 2020 16: 53 New
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              Wow!
              belay belay
              Cool robot. I thought they were with blasters ...
    3. vladcub 21 February 2020 14: 52 New
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      Actually, F. M. wrote quite a lot, but if you are talking about a novel about Prince Myshkin tobish * diot. "It seems to me that the main character is not psychologically approaching this moment.
      Actually, let anyone doubt reread Fedor Mikhailovich
  9. ul_vitalii 21 February 2020 08: 27 New
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    The struggle in the information space. Here, both questions in a certain way, and the answers match them. smile
  10. rudolff 21 February 2020 08: 29 New
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    Flickering reports of a new agreement on joint Russian-Turkish patrols in Idlib.
    1. fk7777777 21 February 2020 10: 12 New
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      Maybe Russian-Armenian-Kurdish in Istanbul will be much more effective ...
  11. Andrey Gurenkov 21 February 2020 08: 29 New
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    all this is interesting. in theory, there should be our consultants, instructors hanging out during the implementation of this equipment)) and here, without 5 minutes, a military conflict. frankly, I’m not imagining it well. I hope the money paid)
  12. rotmistr60 21 February 2020 10: 05 New
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    Talk about the Patriot air defense system is "inertia"
    But for some reason, this "inertia" suddenly started working after the latest events in the Idlib region and verbal support by the Americans. Another attempt at blackmail in the plan previously announced by Erdogan that in case of the death of Turkish soldiers they will shoot down everything that flies in this zone.
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    bar 21 February 2020 10: 20 New
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    Will the aggravation in Syria lead to the fact that the Turkish armed forces decide to use the S-400 against airplanes of the SAR and the Russian Air Force?

    I hope it’s technically impossible for our S-400s to fire at our own aircraft. The sultan will have to buy Patriot from the striped
  14. Andrey.AN 21 February 2020 11: 41 New
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    If the Turks make a no-fly zone over the Idlib for the Russian Air Force and the ATS using their S-400, the Turkish Air Force will use the S-400 from Khmeimim, with replenished ammunition (which allows Turkish reconnaissance drones to be shot down). And so, Idlib is now shooting through and through artillery, while adjusting drones, the same bombing. Only relations will further aggravate in this case, and Idlib will still be freed from radicals.
  15. Voltsky 21 February 2020 13: 40 New
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    In Turkey itself, it is noted that "Ankara will not go to a military confrontation with Russia, since it will be beneficial to the regional opponents of Turkey."

    I’ve been writing about this for a month already, and warmongers are shouting that not today, so tomorrow Turkey will use the S-400 in the Russian Federation
  16. Egg
    Egg 21 February 2020 14: 30 New
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    Quote: Lamata
    The Russian Federation in gratitude for the downed plane helped this radish.

    Otherwise, we would get a complete and irreversible reversal of Turkey in the direction of fsh.
  17. master 52 21 February 2020 15: 34 New
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    the export s-400 cannot shoot at our planes, this has been said for a long time, after the incident with the il-20 and the Syrian old air defense set their alien identification to avoid such tragedies
  18. lvov_aleksey 22 February 2020 03: 08 New
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    I'm bored! you yourself know that the strongest, the ICA, the Air Force and the Navy, catch luck! star-striped began to merge everything ...