Road Wars in Russia: The situation is improving, but victory is far


Speaking at the 3rd World Ministerial Conference on Road Safety, held this week in the capital of Sweden, the head of the Russian Ministry of the Interior, Vladimir Kolokoltsev, explained that road mortality in Russia has decreased over the past decade, and by almost 50%. However, to say that this terrible evil in Russia was managed to end is premature. In traffic accidents, tens of thousands of Russians die annually. What needs to be done in order to minimize this indicator?


According to the minister, a tendency towards a decrease in the number of accidents and the number of their victims was also observed last year: they happened by almost 7% less than in 2018. In comparison with 2009, the number of victims of the “road war” decreased from 26 thousand to less than 17. And this despite the fact that on a global scale, according to the UN, deaths from traffic accidents do not decrease, but, on the contrary, increase. In Russia itself, during this time, by the way, the number of cars tripled. That is, quite real success is evident. But in the “wars on the roads”, victory is still far away. Every human life lost in peacetime due to someone’s reluctance to abide by the rules and the law is already an irreparable loss, and self-consolation with percentages and numbers is hardly appropriate here.

Apparently, the work is still enormous. At the event mentioned above, Kolokoltsev shared with his foreign colleagues an extremely ambitious intention: by 2030, “to reach the zero mortality rate in road accidents”. To achieve such a high standard, domestic law enforcement officials, lawmakers and judges will obviously have to continue on the path of toughening responsibility for unacceptable driver misconduct. First of all, for a “drunk” ride, which, without a doubt, is one of the main causes of road troubles and tragedies.

According to statistics, since the introduction in 2015 of criminal liability for re-driving while intoxicated, the number of riders caught in such irresponsible behavior began to decline in a year or two. And not because the law remained on paper: it just “materializes” in the form of specific prison sentences, and it works. Those who wish to have a criminal record in this way and lose the ability to drive a car are becoming less every year. However, such are still found. In the first half of 2019 alone, more than 27 thousand people responded for driving under the fly. 24 thousand of them were left without a driver’s license. 3 and a half thousand in addition are convicted and imprisoned. A slightly smaller number escaped with suspended sentences. In total, over the past year, judges made “disenfranchised” more than 150 thousand traffic violators. We compare with the statistics of the decrease in road accidents and conclude that the maximum severity in this matter brings excellent results.

Of course, the practice of punishment alone is not enough. It has long been proven that the quality of roads on which they either happen constantly or are an annoying rarity is most directly related to the number of accidents. More good and excellent tracks and highways - fewer accidents. An excellent tool against violators of traffic rules is the widespread introduction of automatic fixation of violations. With an impassioned video camera, you cannot agree “amicably”; you cannot soften it, you cannot deceive it. The questions here are different: that fines should be paid in full by all and always; and also that these fines should be justified, help to warn, and not be used solely to feed those whose accounts receive a portion of the funds. This should happen regardless of persons, positions and so on. The law is either one for all, or it simply does not exist.

Without a doubt, the authorities and law enforcement officers have enough various levers that can have a significant impact on the road situation in the country. Nevertheless, it is worth remembering that putting a police officer on each driver and sticking a video or camera under each tree or bush is completely unrealistic. Road safety begins with each of us - a pedestrian and especially a driver. Well, or it ends with us ... Only an awareness of this life postulate can make Russia a country with low mortality from road accidents.
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  1. Svarog 21 February 2020 07: 02 New
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    An excellent tool against violators of traffic rules is the widespread introduction of automatic fixation of violations. With an passionless video camera, you don’t agree “amicably”;

    A tremendous amount of money runs by the stream from video cameras that record violations .. and I recently found out that this stream is directed into a private pocket .. and could go for the development of road infrastructure ..
    1. Lamata 21 February 2020 07: 17 New
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      Good morning, whose pocket are they going to? Rumors are rumors and facts?
      1. Svarog 21 February 2020 07: 25 New
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        And officials found a way out. Why spend budget money, which is constantly in short supply, if you can attract “merchants” to work? So the budget will be replenished, and commercial structures (including those fed by local authorities) will be able to earn.
        Most regions are now starting to work under this scheme. Businessmen conclude contracts with the authorities for the equipment of roads with complexes for fixing violations - both stationary and mobile, as well as for their maintenance. And from each issued fine they receive a certain amount.
        In the same Moscow region, the MVS Group company, which concluded a state contract, will put 233 rubles in its pocket with each penalty receipt. Moreover, regardless of how much the fine is framed.
        Considering that this company, under the terms of the agreement, plans to establish a thousand complexes, each of which daily “receives” hundreds of violators, the fees received by the “merchants” are impressive - about 23 million rubles a day. Even if half of these funds will

        Each region has its own owner, but as a rule, the owner is a person close to the leadership of the region or controlled ..
        https://www.zr.ru/content/articles/909390-dokhodnoe-mesto/
        https://bankstoday.net/last-articles/dorozhnye-kamery-komu-prinadlezhat-i-kakie-narusheniya-fiksiruyut
        1. Lamata 21 February 2020 07: 29 New
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          And so it was in Italy and is.
        2. Stas157 21 February 2020 08: 50 New
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          road deaths in Russia have decreased over the past decade, and significantly ...
          ... According to the minister, the tendency to reduce the number of accidents and the number of their victims was observed last year: they happened by almost 7% less. ... And this despite the fact that globally, according to the UN, mortality from traffic accidents is not decreasing, but, on the contrary, is increasing. In Russia itself, during this time, by the way, the number of cars tripled. That is quite obvious real success.

          Well, it’s necessary, what a rainbow picture, according to the author, they’re growing there, but ours is falling. I have recently been very wary of presenting information, especially in such a bravura tone. But where is Russia really located? I looked. It turned out at the level of Honduras and Nigeria. But in the UK, Sweden and Germany, road deaths are 5-6 times lower.

          Indeed, real success is in Belarus, where the mortality rate on the roads is two times lower and the quality of the roads is higher than in Russia. This is despite the fact that economically Russia is a more developed country. It has also been observed that this indicator (road deaths) is the highest in countries with low living standards.
          1. Andrey VOV 21 February 2020 10: 00 New
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            Firstly, there is no point in comparing the population of Belarus and Russia as well as the length of the roads, plus Belarus inherited good roads from the USSR, they invested a lot then, plus initially there were draconian fines in Belarus
        3. tihonmarine 21 February 2020 10: 26 New
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          Quote: Svarog
          Each region has its own owner, but as a rule, the owner is a person close to the leadership of the region or controlled ..

          Developed capitalism is everywhere not only in Russia. Roads and traffic on them, profit.
      2. rocket757 21 February 2020 07: 28 New
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        Quote: Svarog
        and I recently found out

        Vladimir soldier but where and how do they run?
        Too fuzzy the concept of "private pocket".
        1. Sling cutter 21 February 2020 09: 07 New
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          Quote: rocket757
          Vladimir, but where and how do they run?
          Too fuzzy the concept of "private pocket".

          Victor! This is a public-private partnership program. A private company buys cameras, then passes them to the state-wu, and in turn gives the company 223 rubles from each fine !!! Voila, in the face of a conflict of interest, if you look at what is in the founders of these companies, these are usually former cops, their wives, children, etc.
          Look, it will be useful for you., In the video everything is intelligibly told.
          1. rocket757 21 February 2020 09: 47 New
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            Welcome soldier
            Everything is known with these cameras, a familiar thing ...
            There are violations there and people begin to react correctly / reasonably ...
            Those. they don’t go with the fists of the right to download, but immediately a slander, for any violations. So you can at least achieve something.
            Now, from the signs of speed reduction, they began to remove the radar at the required distance and put warning signs!
            In the wilderness, from where they can’t get anywhere, they can, they can do what they want, or where the cops cover ... and so, beat them with their own weapons, by law.
            They want ... by law, it will be them LAW.
            Of course, the laws we have are largely against ... and they play for the "guardsmen", but a systematic siege always brings its results.
            Fundamentally, the system cannot be fixed by this, but many "nishtyaki" can still be broken off by them.
            So far so ... and we'll see.
            And yet, it is NECESSARY to observe traffic rules, it is vital! Just everyone complied.
            1. tihonmarine 21 February 2020 10: 29 New
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              Quote: rocket757
              Those. they don’t go with the fists of the right to download, but immediately a slander, for any violations. So you can at least achieve something.

              Everything is civilized, got on camera with a violation, immediately a summons for a fine, payment within 10 days. Not paid, to the court. And this is another money. And most importantly, silently, without screaming and nerves.
              1. rocket757 21 February 2020 10: 38 New
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                Quote: tihonmarine
                Everything is civilized, got on camera with a violation, immediately a summons for a fine, payment within 10 days. Not paid, to the court. And this is another money. And most importantly, silently, without screaming and nerves.

                This is understandable, reasonable .... the question is simple, these “catchers” should not hide haphazardly, they should not put cameras right behind the signs, and they should put warning signs “video fixing is in progress” ... we have more or less taught them to to this. At first, the lawlessness was complete.
                And the rules, all the same, must be observed. This saves / saves from many troubles, from fatal ones too.
                1. tihonmarine 21 February 2020 10: 50 New
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                  Quote: rocket757
                  the question is simple, these "catchers" should not hide anywhere;

                  Well, in Europe it’s already been like that for a long time, there are no more catchers, everywhere the cameras are hanging.
                  1. rocket757 21 February 2020 11: 35 New
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                    We also hang out ... a good 2GIS navigator, camera installation locations are quickly apparent. Even mobile, deployed in certain places, are indicated.
                    They have equipment and we have technology.
                    1. tihonmarine 21 February 2020 12: 17 New
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                      Quote: rocket757
                      They have equipment and we have technology.

                      Everything will come to a common denominator. Not everything is done right away.
      3. balunn 21 February 2020 10: 41 New
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        Well, let's figure it in whose pocket.
        There is a camera on the road, with a camera, a car and a car with a certain man. The camera records a violation of the excess of +21 km and gives a fine of 500 rubles. When paying a fine with a 50 percent discount, 250 rubles remain. Now the question. How much money does the state get with a fine of 250 rubles?
        1. rocket757 21 February 2020 11: 37 New
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          Fines go through official channels, decisions are issued by the state inspection bodies, so the state has its own “penny” for that.
    2. siberalt 21 February 2020 07: 39 New
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      Correctly writes the author. It is scary to drive sober on such roads. belay
      1. tihonmarine 21 February 2020 10: 33 New
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        Quote: siberalt
        It is scary to drive sober on such roads.

        Clever idea, stopped riding for 20 years, walking is much safer.
    3. g1washntwn 21 February 2020 08: 20 New
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      Quote: Svarog
      and I recently found out that this stream is directed into a private pocket ..

      Separate laws and changes are pushed for that. This is called lobbying for commercial interests. And the cameras on the road? Well legalized this trifle corruption, what has changed? The double solid under the ice and stuff both fed individual citizens, and continue (but already with a 10-fold risk premium) to feed individual dishonest citizens in uniform.
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        1. g1washntwn 21 February 2020 09: 22 New
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          Plato - an attempt to save Russian Railways by raising the cost of road transport, well, just indicated by a cherry.
          1. Stas157 21 February 2020 09: 48 New
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            Quote: g1washntwn
            Plato - an attempt to save Russian Railways by raising the cost of road transport

            To save Russian Railways should trucking suffer? Strange setting! Isn't it better to reform something in Russian Railways, to change the leadership, for example?
            1. g1washntwn 21 February 2020 09: 57 New
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              Quote: Stas157
              Isn't it better to reform something in Russian Railways

              Not our way. Prohibitive measures are simpler and more rich. It’s necessary (allegedly) to fight for the environment — they removed MSW from the formula for the utilities utilities index and lifted tariffs 10 times. But in fact - even right now, even a little later, I can post a photo of the trash near my house where new containers (obviously not cheap) and in 4 days of unloading, a bunch of packages have already crumbled onto the passage. One can only guess how many leaks there are with all this "ecological" scam. Repair funds and their distribution have long been a "black hole", even photons do not return from there. So it’s similar here - at first they increase the prices then the retirement age and then suddenly it turns out “as always” and “you hold on”.
        2. Gene84 21 February 2020 09: 31 New
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          So, comrades, only business and nothing personal

          The operator of the Platon system is RT-Invest Transport Systems (RTITS), 23,5% of which is owned by Igor Rotenberg, 50% is owned by RT-Invest, in which the state-owned corporation Rostec owns a 25% stake. (According to an extract from the Unified State Register of Legal Entities, the founders of RT-Invest Transport Systems LLC are: Rotenberg Igor Arkadevich - 23,5%, JSC RT-Invest - 50%, Shipelov Andrey Evgenievich - 19%, Zamkov Anton Sergeevich - 7,5% .
  2. HaByxoDaBHocep 21 February 2020 07: 08 New
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    To reduce the number of accidents and the severity of the consequences, you need to build good roads, where not 7 meters wide roadway, but at least 10 with separation of oncoming traffic, but there is no money
    1. Alex_59 21 February 2020 07: 28 New
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      Quote: HaByxoDaBHocep
      To reduce the number of accidents and the severity of the consequences, you need to build good roads, where not 7 meters wide roadway, but at least 10 with separation of oncoming traffic, but there is no money

      No need to deny the obvious, everything is under construction, the only problem is that you want more and faster.
      Until 2005, there was not a single two-level interchange in my city, and the road with the flow separation was one, 6 km long - it was also called "five minutes of America." And this is to the regional center with a population of 1 million. Now we have more than 250 kilometers of such roads, more than 20 two-level junctions.
      Much is being done in the country too - this is evident. Don track has changed beyond recognition, on the Volga track has become much cooler.
      1. Lamata 21 February 2020 07: 30 New
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        Highways, yes, but in the same Rostov on the Don, the guard often happens. My ex-wife, because of a bad rain storm, and in the city center, flooded the car 4 times, so even the algorithm of actions was worked out to automatism.
      2. HaByxoDaBHocep 21 February 2020 08: 02 New
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        It’s being built there in the West, federal roads in our region are also being built and repaired, but it’s worth leaving the federal highways; put out the lights, drain the water, we have a dead end city, the highway killed 246 kilometers to the nearest large city, they repair 5 kilometers a year, where they repaired about 6 years ago, it’s no longer possible to travel, but it’s profitable for officials, an endless cash flow
        1. Alex_59 21 February 2020 09: 06 New
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          Quote: HaByxoDaBHocep
          our city is a dead end, to the nearest large city 246 kilometers the highway, all killed by timber trucks, is repaired by 5 kilometers per year

          Wow, what kind of Magadan do you have?
          With the fact that in the far corners of the problems a lot - I agree.
          In our “West”, of course, you turned it abruptly, the Urals are not very west, although if you are east, then yes.
          1. HaByxoDaBHocep 21 February 2020 09: 23 New
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            Not Magadan, but the city of Ust-Ilimsk of the Irkutsk Region, open the map and see the nearest city of Bratsk, the road is one, in a deplorable state, although in winter it is even less, thanks to Grandfather Moroz, although he repairs the road well)
            1. Alex_59 21 February 2020 09: 28 New
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              Quote: HaByxoDaBHocep
              and the city of Ust-Ilimsk, Irkutsk region, open the map and see the nearest city of Bratsk, the road is one, in a deplorable state, although even less in winter, thanks to Grandfather Moroz, although he repairs the road well)

              Yes, not close. recourse I was not further from Ekat to the east, but I guess what you might have there. I have long wanted to drive in your direction on vacation, it still doesn’t work out. The condition of the Don track is unlikely to warm your soul, your truth.
              1. ssergey1978 21 February 2020 10: 17 New
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                I did not remember the condition of the roads in Ust-Ilim once, but in Irkutsk, roads are being actively built, wide roads are well-lit. And for example, in Ulyanovsk, the carcasses of the road are light. Narrow, lighting rubbish.
      3. Sling cutter 21 February 2020 09: 26 New
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        Quote: Alex_59
        . The Don track was transformed beyond recognition

        Let's talk in more detail about the Don route.
        The second moment, it’s no secret to anyone that the roads in Russia are the most expensive, but at the same time the most low-quality in the world! Why build roads if they are not later repaired or remodeled? This is the basic law of road construction in the Russian Federation.
        Roads in the Russian Federation are built by "CORRUPTION". There will be no corruption, there will be no roads, "Why build something that cannot be stolen ?!" This applies to all economic life in the country. Corruption (embezzlement of capital) is the main bond of the current government and its "national" idea.
        1. Alex_59 21 February 2020 09: 32 New
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          Let's talk in more detail about the Don route.

          What's wrong? From Rostov to Krasnodar, the paid plot is generally fantastic. In the Rostov area, of course, congestion, but what to do? To the north it’s normal again, tumble into your pleasure. I went in October for the last time.
          Quote: Stroporez
          Corruption (embezzlement of capital) is the main bond of the current government and its "national" idea.

          I agree with that. True, they are deliberately not laid all the same in what to repair then again and again, all the same, for observing the SNIPs they are blamed for the delivery of objects, so there the corruption scheme is not built on this, but stupidly overstated estimates. They will do it. But expensive, because kickbacks.
          1. Sling cutter 21 February 2020 09: 50 New
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            Quote: Alex_59
            From Rostov to Krasnodar, the paid plot is generally fantastic. In the Rostov area, of course, congestion, but what to do? To the north it’s normal again, tumble into your pleasure. I went in October for the last time.

            Did you hear anything about the village of Losevo? Last summer, stay in the direction of Mokvastan for 7-10 hours. Is this normal? I traveled this traffic jam for 50 km in fields and meadows, the car allows. And the local boys on mopeds are awesome business)))
            Further, what right did the state have to transfer the road to the Fed. Values ​​in affiliated private hands, with famous surnames? Voronezh, Tula, Moscow region is a commercial hell !!! Fee for a lousy road every 10-20 km !!! From the infrastructure there are only point-type bugs that are dangerous to approach, so motorists relieve the need for nearby plants. Gas stations are not very close to the Crimea, and the price tags on the gas station at the gas stations are simply KONSKY!
            I didn’t want to say, but I’ll say that in a decaying geyropka, things with roads and road infrastructure are much better, hence mortality and injuries are much lower !!!! hi
            PS. I offer our road services to dissolve to hell, hire Finns or Chinese and they will build everything for us cheaply, quickly, efficiently and with a guarantee! Or the authorities need to stop stealing.
            1. Alex_59 21 February 2020 10: 02 New
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              Have you heard anything about the village of Losevo? Last summer, in the direction of Mokvastan, put the car down for 7-10 hours. Is this normal?

              Mmmm .... it’s very strange to complain about the fact that the road is being built, it seems that we are demanding that we build faster and faster? Corks are inevitable during the construction period. We, in Perm, also had a joke - bypassing Lobanovo on the R-242 highway. Adjusted for local scales - stood for 2-3 hours. Two years. So what? Now no one remembers this already. I drove to the cottage (40km) then 3,5 hours and now 45 minutes.
              And from the Don highway I am leaving for Belaya Kalitva, so Losevo didn’t interfere with my life tongue
              But by the way, Volgograd is a pain. Tell someone already to the governor of the Volgograd region that the Nazis are defeated, there is no need to be afraid to repair the asphalt, it is already possible.
              Quote: Stroporez
              Voronezh, Tula, Moscow region is a commercial hell !!!

              I can not say for this - I did not go.
              Refueling is especially close to the Crimea are not often found, and the price tags on the junction at the gas station is simply KONSKY!
              Find me a gas station where the price tags are not horseback? This is greetings to Lukoil and Rosneft, where do the road workers come from? I don’t buy anything from them except gasoline, why to encourage such impudence.
              1. Sling cutter 21 February 2020 10: 50 New
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                Mmmm .... it’s very strange to complain about the fact that the road is being built, it seems that we are demanding that we build faster and faster? Corks are inevitable during the construction period.

                I repeat again, the state did not have the right to give the fed. private track !!! We pay considerable taxes on the roads, so let the state fulfill its obligations, but this same story as with the VF and overhaul, raised money, but no one stole it because. And private traders should build backups for their money and no other way !!!
                1. Lexus 21 February 2020 16: 32 New
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                  I repeat again, the state did not have the right to give the fed. private track !!!

                  A colleague, the so-called "state" of all "had", because this is what happens. AOZT "RF" has its own "concepts", so why be surprised?
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                    the so-called "state" of all "had" AOZT "RF" its "concepts"

                    Are you always so disappointed, or just before the weekend? There are good specialists, I can recommend you, if necessary.
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                      Climbing to me with a stupid flood is a bad idea. You will return to the “bathhouse” to your “major bulldog”. And, yes ... your "experts" did not help you. stop
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                        That is, your own flood seems smart to you. Clear. I have not in vain mentioned the existing specialists, but this is clearly not a job for them.
            2. Andrey VOV 21 February 2020 10: 04 New
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              It’s a normal road to Moscow along the M4 .. but for some reason they didn’t say the reason for the traffic jam, and the traffic jam that they BUILD the road and this year there is no longer a congestion, so it’s enough to take out the context and palm off the fried pseudo-facts, and cost, buy a transponder and calmly and it’s not unprofitable and he fights off a fly
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                Quote: Andrey VOV
                It’s a normal road to Moscow along the M4 .. but for some reason they didn’t say the reason for the traffic jam, but the traffic jam is BUILDING

                Build? Building is in your sore imagination, because BUILD and expand are two different things.
                Quote: Andrey VOV
                and the cost, buy a transponder and calmly and not expensive, and he fights off a fly

                In your phrase the keyword BUY !!! Why should I first, having paid TN, buy the right to move around my country from the state, and then buy the same right from some Rottenbergs there? Soon I won’t be able to go to the forest, to the river for free, and then to breathe, and what should I buy a transponder, a forest transponder, an air transponder for all this ???
                If you use the track for your bargain affairs, then you will pay back the fee and transponder at the expense of the end user, and I go on business unrelated to business, so any fees made from my pocket will never “beat off” and this is an additional tax on me like a citizen!
                So do you understand?
                1. Andrey VOV 21 February 2020 11: 17 New
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                  Wipe the splashes from the screen, I go to work, to relatives, every day, if you are a huckster working person, then there’s nothing to talk to you about, And the extension of the road, what’s not building? Remove layers. Remove the half, everything is new at the end of the year, the M4 understudy in the Lipetsk region was removed to the ground, laid everything down again, expanded, the chippers put up the marking, this is not a construction site ??
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                    Quote: Andrey VOV
                    And the expansion of the road, is that not a construction site?

                    One of the reasons for poor roads is an outdated regulatory framework that does not allow road companies to use modern technologies in construction. Funds are allocated annually, but the companies that won the right to repair roads are not involved in improving roads, but simply copying European standards that are not suitable for Russian conditions. Do not forget about corruption in the construction of roads, which reaches 10-15% of the estimate. There are many problems, and a violation of technology, and not high-quality coverage, and inadequate maintenance of roads.
                  2. Stas157 21 February 2020 12: 53 New
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                    Quote: Andrey VOV
                    You're lyingnormal road

                    Quote: Andrey VOV
                    stop taking it out of context and palm off fried pseudo-facts

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                    Wipe off splashes from the screen

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                    there’s nothing more to talk about with you

                    Well, how is it to have a quiet conversation with such people? With foam of mouth he proves that everything is fine in terms of roads and he personally is completely satisfied! The poor statistics about the quality of our roads and their quantity, this gentleman, safely ignores.

                    Quote: Andrey VOV
                    And the extension of the road is what not building“remove the layers. remove the half-layer, put everything in a new way?” at the end of the year, the M4 understudy in the Lipetsk region was removed to the base, again they were laid down, expanded, the bumpers set up and marking,is this not a construction site ??calm down

                    No, this is not a new road construction site. This is a repair of the old. And let's yourself calm down already. OK?
                    1. Andrey VOV 21 February 2020 13: 31 New
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                      With you dear, I didn’t have a discussion. So don’t get stuck in with your five kopecks, yes, where I drive the roads are really good, but in the neighboring region the death is to the German invaders, I don’t say that EVERYTHING is good everywhere, read carefully and if they don’t speak with you, be silent aside, in a decent society they will beat for such a person
                      1. Stas157 21 February 2020 13: 39 New
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                        Quote: Andrey VOV
                        don't get stuck

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                        keep silent aside

                        If you do not want to be read, much less answered, write in a personal message, not in a public forum.
                        Quote: Andrey VOV
                        they beat for such a face

                        Offended?))) You try to write more delicately, I assure you, the effect will be different. hi
                      2. Andrey VOV 21 February 2020 14: 01 New
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                        For a long time, I haven’t been offended by anyone for a long time, because it’s said, they carry water on offended ones.
  3. rocket757 21 February 2020 07: 35 New
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    To reduce the number of accidents and the severity of the consequences, you need to build good roads, where not 7 meters wide roadway, but at least 10 with separation of oncoming traffic, but there is no money

    All, of course, I want it that way! But besides the fact that "there is no money, but you ..." it is clear that this is not possible everywhere, for objective reasons.
    We have enough incidents in settlements! and there are signs and cameras, and just control on the roads is much higher ...
    In general, we ourselves arrange a "genocide" in relation to our fellow citizens.
    Any stick has TWO ENDS!
    1. Lexus 21 February 2020 16: 18 New
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      Hello, hello! hi
      In Ryazan, for example, roads are not cleaned the second winter AT ALL. Snow falls, melts, slush forms, it breaks down to holes where it’s not a problem to fly into the oncoming ice at 30 km / h. Trolleybuses are breaking! Republican tracks seemed to be bombed yesterday. You can try to blame yourself as much as you like, but that won't make it easier and safer. Is it because the "responsible" people are slowly changing to helicopters, and we are told tales that everything is fine with the roads, and "they are bad because the population walks in cheap Chinese shoes and erases the road surface."

      No need to listen to the crooks - for them to tell the truth is equivalent to confessing to a crime. Therefore, anyone else is always to blame, but not they.
      "Masons explain to the contractor how to repair the road", painting, Vasya Lozhkin (Aleksey Vladimirovich Kudelin), A wonderful folk artist
      "Speed ​​hasn't killed anyone yet. A sudden stop ... that's what kills." (C) Jeremy Clarkson
      1. rocket757 21 February 2020 18: 45 New
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        Alex, welcome soldier
        For some time we were lucky with the governor, with winters too, but his efforts are still noticeable.
        Paradise and order did not come, but he still keeps the mayors and others in good shape.
        Every day, in the morning, I go to work in the city and I see that the roads are cleaned, sand is sprinkled, and this is very convenient when the car is not winter tires. A couple of times I had to change to a cornfield, because it was shod in the winter, on spikes.
        Of course, there are enough pits, but they are patching as they can, and the center streets are being repaired as they should.
        In general, it all depends on the "owner"! We are lucky, finally.
        Here is a wish - Schaub was sent to everyone \ chosen, a normal governor!
        1. Lexus 21 February 2020 20: 50 New
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          Twist, everything should not obey the "owner" with the "concepts", but order. I am often advised to change the car, to which I say that we all need to change the “car”. On the one in which there is no place for thieving "buddies" and hangers-on. And then everything will be fine.
          1. rocket757 21 February 2020 21: 42 New
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            It's right. Ideally \ we want to have such a system of power \ control, Schaub it worked as it should, in the interests of ALL of US and no one entering could break it, change it ... interesno, and it happens?
            1. Lexus 21 February 2020 21: 55 New
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              Vitya, it happens - the Scandinavians and the Swiss are a good example of "how to." So it should be with us.
              1. rocket757 21 February 2020 22: 25 New
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                If nobody attacked our country for a couple of centuries !!! a mustache could settle down ...
                1. Lexus 21 February 2020 22: 38 New
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                  The Germans lost a lot of wars, but they live unmatchedly better than us. Why? Because they do not believe in the "tsar", but in themselves and from their chosen ones they very harshly ask, not allowing them to fence off the FSO and other national guard.
                  1. rocket757 22 February 2020 10: 40 New
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                    The reason, as always, is not the only one.
                    Dimensions, mentality, isolation and BARBARA WE ARE ASIANS, to a large extent ... etc.
                    PS ... by the way, "could settle down" is not a statement, as a possible option.
  4. Stas157 21 February 2020 08: 56 New
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    You are right, the number of accidents directly depends on the quality of roads and road conditions (and not on traffic rules). On a toll road from Moscow to St. Petersburg, the number of accidents is as much as 20 times lower than on other roads.
    1. _Sergei_ 21 February 2020 10: 10 New
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      It mainly depends on the fool behind the wheel.
  5. _Sergei_ 21 February 2020 10: 09 New
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    Very often I go along the highway Barnaul - Rubtsovsk. Previously, I observed up to seven accidents in one trip, but now it’s rarely when they come across. I don’t drive myself. Speed ​​not more than 120 on the highway. The first car appeared in 1985. So there is nothing to compare.
  • Zaurbek 21 February 2020 07: 11 New
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    Safety depends on the roads and on the discipline on them and on the fact that these roads drive. To have an accident on Vaz2106, Loda Vesta, FordFokus and Ford Explorer - the consequences will be different ..... and in different countries these cars are available for the same segments of the population.
    1. g1washntwn 21 February 2020 08: 05 New
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      The truck on the track is absolutely violet who rushes towards him in the opposite direction. And from the "bucket", and from the "Explorer" with passengers there will remain pieces no larger than a microwave. No car guarantees anything, but can only slightly and a little increase the chance of survival. YouTube to help with examples.
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        And here it is not .... survival is different.
        1. g1washntwn 21 February 2020 08: 29 New
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          The "chance of survival" is the keyword "chance" - that is, a theory of probability and a miracle, if you like. This affects the number of accidents exclusively negatively, imaginary immortality psychologically relaxes and smoothes the cerebral cortex, and if there before the departure to the oncoming lane or red it looked more like a billiard ball, no angels would help.
          1. Zaurbek 21 February 2020 08: 38 New
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            There are laws of physics and deformations of different designs .... and statistics. And progress in security systems and you won’t get anywhere.
            1. fraders 21 February 2020 09: 35 New
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              from a collision with a heavy truck, at a speed of more than 80, no security system can save, and if in a hundred, a continuous deformation zone will be up to the middle of the back door, and it’s absolutely violet how many pillows were opened upon impact and how the preloaded belts worked, it doesn’t kill speed, and a sharp stop, people do not drive on the roads
              1. Zaurbek 21 February 2020 09: 40 New
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                Look at the statistics .... Bulk cargoes are not the biggest% of the danger of death in the oncoming impact ..... but systems may not allow this to be done.
            2. g1washntwn 21 February 2020 09: 39 New
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              Can you spend a free webinar on controlled deformation of body elements?
              Remedies and technology are needed AFTER the manifestation of human stupidity and inattention in order to save his life. I’m talking about the reason, you are about eliminating the consequences. As you still explain ... the smart one will not put his fingers in the socket to check whether it is dangerous or not even with dielectric gloves, and a disciplined driver will not violate to check the effectiveness of the airbags and icons on the dashboard.
              1. Zaurbek 21 February 2020 11: 23 New
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                I have enough seminars by profession ... I taught Sapromat, but this is not a subject that specializes in my profession. But it seems to me that in modern cars this moment is more progressive than not in modern ones. And in a larger modern car, it is better than in a smaller one .... and that the lane retention system, for example, reduces the chance of getting into the forehead ... and that you have to fasten your seat belt in a car with an airbag.
                I drive a lot myself at work and see everything and everyone.
    2. balunn 21 February 2020 11: 02 New
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      Safety should still be in the heads of not only those. Who is driving, but also those who are on the road. At us, as a rule, everything is blamed on the driver. As for cars, Europe is full of old rids. They are certainly not as rotten as ours, but no one canceled the concept of metal fatigue
  • g1washntwn 21 February 2020 07: 13 New
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    Good roads are expensive. Everything is solved much simpler with us - the restriction sign and the camera in the bushes - this also replenishes the pocket.
    Deprivation does not stop relapse. Only the absence of a vehicle will not allow breaking again. 30tyr - for some, this is laughter and not punishment, besides, "not caught - not a thief" still works, even the DPS base on such vehicles does not really help.
    1. Ross xnumx 21 February 2020 07: 54 New
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      Deprivation does not stop relapse.

      In a country living according to "concepts" imposed by criminal structures, to talk about some order ...
      In some countries, for driving a vehicle without a certificate (in case of deprivation of rights), even if it did not cause an accident, you can sit for a long time and work for the good of the Fatherland for free:
      Spain.
      If you forget your rights, the Spanish police will fine you for approximately 500 euros. But if you dare to drive when you were forbidden to do so for violation of the SDA, then imprisonment for six months will become quite real.
      France.
      Offenders who decide to drive without a license are treated strictly, fines of up to 15 euros. If the offense was committed with aggravating circumstances, for example, the driver was drunk or arguing with the police, or this misconduct is not the first, then you can earn even a year in prison.

      For those who can forget the rights of the house (lovers), a duplicate certified by a notary who is grunting in the car is possible, so that the traffic police can make sure that the driver has the right to drive a car, and his forgetfulness associated with major circumstances (deliver a woman in a maternity hospital, a patient to a hospital, etc.) is not intentional.
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        Quote: ROSS 42
        not intentional

        Evidence of intent is the most controversial and more often at the discretion of the Court. But the dpsnik is generally not interested in the reasons; he records the fact of the absence of the required documents and that’s all. Though give birth.
  • Alex66 21 February 2020 07: 19 New
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    For order on the roads, you need to remove untouchable drivers who are not fined, some have hundreds and continue to drive, others have no rights, they are not afraid to drive (relatives will refuse) Why for people like Bogdasaryan and Shamsuarov there is no responsibility, but that which is not enough?
    1. balunn 21 February 2020 11: 06 New
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      In normal countries, if a person constantly commits violations, then the question of his sanity is raised. There, rights can quickly become invalid.
  • rocket757 21 February 2020 07: 25 New
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    Road Wars in Russia: The situation is improving, but victory is far

    In some places, some roads become better, the infrastructure improves! But before the present, EVERYTHING IS GOOD, EVERYTHING SO AS WELL, is very far away!
    The pride \ ur \ kov on the roads becomes ... yes they are full! A rare day passes, so as not to meet the "drove" in a different stage of frostbite.
    This "war" of the end, so far, is not visible.
  • Forget 21 February 2020 07: 27 New
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    I see them as the only way to reduce the accident rate is to increase the punishment for violations, the widespread installation of all kinds of cameras and automation ..... but better and much simpler and cheaper it will simply appeal to the consciousness of road users! As Goethe said, “if we treat people as who they want to be, we will bring them to where they should be led.” I assure you people want to go for good .....
  • Pessimist22 21 February 2020 07: 27 New
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    In Kazakhstan, this year, for driving under the influence of alcohol, deprivation of rights for 7 years, for accidents with moderate injuries, a fine of about $ 7000, well, relapse and increased severity, real term and fine of about $ 20000.
    1. Lamata 21 February 2020 08: 09 New
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      That you are somewhat mistaken, apply a fine to someone to whom adm arrest cannot apply, Art. 608 of the Administrative Code of the Republic of Kazakhstan.
  • Ross xnumx 21 February 2020 07: 41 New
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    Safety on the road begins with each of us - a pedestrian and especially a driver. Well, or it ends with us ...

    I was convinced of this just yesterday, switching the lower Boulevard of Builders to the green traffic light when an Yandex taxi ran in the middle of the road to the "red". yes Due to addictions and some transition rules, I concluded that in this situation (if I neglected these rules), road safety could only affect me, with moderate and not very serious injuries.
    Therefore, I believe that only a progressive and mandatory system of punishment for all can exclude "tricks" on the roads of "reckless drivers" and "majors" ...
    1. Lamata 21 February 2020 08: 10 New
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      Vodyatly buses also often baig.
      1. g1washntwn 21 February 2020 08: 32 New
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        "The drivers of the minibuses are so severe that they slow down at stops for disembarking passengers up to 60 km / h in total" laughing
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          exaggerated, but there)))) and often do not know the name of the stops
  • Sergey Averchenkov 21 February 2020 08: 06 New
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    The topic is topical ... I don’t know if youth, adrenaline, or something else is there ... I’m not a young man, I drive carefully - for about seven or eight years no one has been slowing me down and there are no fines. It’s true that I travel a little, I have 2 stops before work - it’s easier on foot or by bus, from work I always walk - downhill :). And the roads have become a million times better compared to the 90s. If anything, right from the 85th year.
  • samarin1969 21 February 2020 08: 24 New
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    Mr. Kolokoltsev needs to restore order with his subordinates:
    1) The law is the same for all without any "concepts"
    2) The ban on the "business card war" after an accident
    3) The most Jesuit measures against "agree, captain."

    And a driving culture should be. If you believe the driver network communities, then - all the "deer", and the "normal Schumacher" and nowhere to frolic.
  • Podvodnik 21 February 2020 08: 39 New
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    Ministry of the Interior Vladimir Kolokoltsev explained that mortality on roads in Russia has decreased over the past decade, and significantly - by almost 50%

    Well, I do not believe it! I do not believe! So many times they lied from the TV screens, that even if they tell the truth, I won’t believe it. This is creepy. Authority is earned over the years, and is lost instantly. I often read a fairy tale about a shepherdess to my children before going to bed. The moral is simple: you lie a few times, they will not believe.
    Yes, I’m a driver, I notice changes in behavior on the roads. They began to skip more often, saying "thank you" in response to politeness. But who brought Prokurorov to death? Deprived of the right drove, sat behind the wheel drunk. What to do with such? For some reason, the word "hang" comes to me. Almost every day reports of major accidents with several fatalities. And then the reduction in mortality?
    Something has rotted in our kingdom.
    And about mortality, so how to count. If you died on the way to the ambulance or the next day in the hospital, is this why?
    And the cameras do not send letters themselves. Everyone should be equal before the law. I do not see this. And therefore I do not believe.
    1. Ross xnumx 21 February 2020 10: 13 New
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      Something has rotted in our kingdom.

      In our "kingdom" the "king" eyes "swam". In the sense, they are "blotted out". Most of the drivers on the roads, both professionals and amateurs, are adequate, polite and kind people who do not suffer from the mania "who is not in the car is the one." Many familiar drivers, often meet those who see icy roads on the road. brakes before moving in advance, making it clear that he is not trying to bring down a pensioner who has left the store.
      It is these academics of safe riding that suffer the most from riders on the road. I don’t know who should understand there, but a person who has hundreds of violations, unpaid fines and repeated detention (sometimes after deprivation of rights) for drunk driving just needs to be transferred to the “pedestrian” category for life.
      That is why, because the state is interested in lobbying the interests of sellers and only selling cars, spare parts and gasoline, and road safety consists only in collecting fines from “suffered” and “suckers”, the situation with accidents and road booms in a positive aspect will not be allowed.
      There is no interest in this.
      And only the directors of the series believe in honest traffic police officers who receive for their creations a very “decent” (higher than the regional average) wage ...
      1. Podvodnik 21 February 2020 10: 24 New
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        Life example: a man was driving home, in a drink. He was in a bad mood. Two "representatives" braked him. Agreed. I gave the salary I received (worked as a welder) and plasma from the rear seat (transported). He was released. After a while, "caught" a birch. For some reason, I went straight on the bend of the road. The passenger, 42 years old, died. He has scratches. Two girls were left without a mother. Wouldn’t you agree?
  • GRIGORIY76 21 February 2020 08: 44 New
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    I believe that another factor in mortality is the safety of cars running on our roads.
    I was surprised to learn that the "Niva" automobiles began to have an airbag only since 2020. And then it is not in the steering wheel, but on the side of the driver. And how many classics are still in use?
    It should be prohibited to sell cars without 2 front airbags.
    1. polar fox 21 February 2020 09: 16 New
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      And how many classics are still in use?

      this is due to the fact that through the efforts of the "guarantor" 25 lyamas of high-tech jobs with high salaries were created! and as for the pillows ... I watched a couple of times how they worked on the Samara "highways" ... it was fun for the drivers .. .and they didn’t work on BMW X6 ... the car turned over, a woman flipped her flippers (though it later became clear from a horse's dose of coke). Muscovite, with purchased rights.
      1. GRIGORIY76 21 February 2020 10: 05 New
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        The fact that the last 20 years is a time of missed opportunities I agree.
        Nevertheless, modern cars are much safer because equipped with both active and passive security systems.
        In my car, even the hood must shoot off so that the pedestrian was “more comfortable” to fall.
    2. Glory1974 21 February 2020 11: 43 New
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      It should be prohibited to sell cars without 2 front airbags.

      Yes, so that in the event of an accident, how alive they sat. good
      And it’s better, especially for Russia, to develop a car based on a light tank.
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    downward trend in accidents

    I've been out of traffic accidents for a long time (pah, pah, pah). But yesterday, in the trolley in which I was driving, a minibus got used to. No one was hurt, but the crash lane was interrupted.
  • Ros 56 21 February 2020 09: 18 New
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    Mortality on the roads can be reduced very strongly if the entire intercity of federal significance is done with a physical dividing strip that does not allow exit to the oncoming lane. True money is needed crazy. But introducing this by law is simply necessary and to begin with, at least on newly designed routes.
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      make with a physical dividing strip that does not allow exit to the oncoming lane. True money is needed crazy.

      If you do not take into account Colonels Zakharchenkov and Cherkalin, who could finance this process, we can turn to foreign experience.
      In YouTube, I saw that in Korea they pull the rope, put plastic "barrels" on the rope. When the car hits the car, the barrels on the cable dampen, and rotating around its axis they gently return the car to the lane. Of course, it works at reasonable speeds. I do not think that it is prohibitively expensive.
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        Yes, even so, the main thing is that they do not meet foreheads, because the accidents are terrible, with almost no chance of survival.
  • Essex62 21 February 2020 09: 20 New
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    Drunk driving - a potential killer and the punishment should be the most severe.
    Video capture cameras are a source of profit. In Moscow, on every pillar and in combination with the “correctly” marked markings, when it is practically impossible to avoid violation, huge profits are brought to the Moscow authorities. Money goes to "beautification", every square seems to be tiled. m. And who supplies this tile? And parking is generally a concentration camp. You can’t stop for 5 minutes, in the first seconds the 6th flies a five tyr fine. Cheaper to park under the sign. Everything goes under the motto "drove by car - pay a bribe"
  • prior 21 February 2020 10: 38 New
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    Power "scored" on the people - the people "scored" on the SDA.
    Read grandfather Krylov ....
  • Lamata 21 February 2020 10: 43 New
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    And the creatures of special subjects also contribute to the nightmare on the roads. I have come across more than once.
  • Million 21 February 2020 11: 12 New
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    sticking a video or camera under each tree or bush is completely unrealistic

    This is the case now. Until not under every bush, but it’s coming to that. How much money comes to the budget from this! And they don’t give a damn about security!
  • 75 Sergey 21 February 2020 11: 24 New
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    Out of 250 rubles from the camera, 239 go to a private trader! I’m ready to pay the state, but there’s no rubbish to private owners!
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      Out of 250 rubles from the camera, 239 go to a private trader!

      What a game !?
      And where is the 13% tax? Or are there other rules?
      1. 75 Sergey 21 February 2020 14: 17 New
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        What stepped on a sick mazol? You messed up a little guy with a "salary" tax.
        But yes, 239 is dirty.
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          You messed up a little guy with a "salary" tax.

          Income tax, no difference salary or business 13%
  • Beringovsky 21 February 2020 11: 46 New
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    Yes there.
    Most of our roads are generally of poor quality, and there are many of those that are simply dangerous to drive on.
    And so what a misfortune with spare parts going on - this is generally beyond. Here both counterfeit and extremely poor quality products. A seized hub bearing can easily cause an accident. And the state seems to have completely removed itself from control over this, even if the ordinary citizen is responsible for everything.
    I do not need such a self-reliant "state".
    1. Lamata 21 February 2020 11: 50 New
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      and the Russian Federation systematically reduces the social functions of the state, while constantly trying to increase the tax burden on the population, not banks and oil and gas cats.
      1. Beringovsky 21 February 2020 12: 21 New
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        This is not “RF” cutting, this Putin with a company of friends of partners is cutting.
        In general, it’s time to move away from such revolutions as “why WE ...”, “why do we ...”. Who are we? Personally, I did not cut the social network and did not introduce new taxes. I think you too. These are the imposed "we" that serve to blur the responsibility of the authorities. This is wrong, you must admit that it is better to call a spade a spade. drinks
  • Charik 21 February 2020 12: 03 New
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    as robbers in ancient times dealt with requisitions on the roads, some employees continue their work, and even fabricate false accusations
  • iouris 21 February 2020 14: 36 New
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    Quote: Apparently, the work has yet to be colossal. At the aforementioned event, Kolokoltsev shared with his foreign colleagues an extremely ambitious intention: “to reach zero mortality rate in road accidents by 2030”. The end of the quote.
    This is an unscientific approach. NOTHING depends on Kolokoltsev. It has long been proven (60 years ago) that mortality on roads is determined by the level of motorization of the population. If the level of motorization grows naturally (as the level and quality of life of the population increase), then mortality naturally tends to a "zero rate". This is a sociological law. Hence the conclusion: during the period of the systemic economic crisis, the task posed by the citizen Kolokoltsev is unattainable, but if he knows archiodocronically that the standard of living of Russians will grow at a faster pace, then this is good (very good, long-awaited) news. However, it could be reported not only to Kolokoltsev. If it was communicated to those who are ready to "lay their heads on the rails", then the "set goal" would be achieved in accordance with the above sociological law, i.e. in a natural way. Another way is juggling statistics.
  • Servisinzhener 21 February 2020 21: 12 New
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    There is no one method to reduce mortality in traffic accidents. This process consists of many aspects.
    1) Parenting from childhood. Recently I watched with children an English-language cartoon, either from the Super Simple Songs series, or LBB. In which the heroes wanted to go somewhere by car. And the following was sung in it: - We get into the car. Fasten the belt and turn the key. And not the wind in the mug, I .... ahem ...
    In domestic Malyshariki there is also a series about a car seat. And this is the right approach. Because car seats seriously increase the chance of survival in accidents, as do seat belts.
    In Norway, over the past 5 years, 0 child deaths in road accidents. You can certainly argue that there are 5 million inhabitants. But in the Krasnodar Territory there are as many of them.
    By the way, I noticed now that primary school students began to walk in reflective javelins.
    2) An increase in fines and linking them to the size of the minimum wage. (Ideally, of course, to the level of income, but salaries in envelopes ...) The increase is not to prohibitive values, but so that it is unpleasant. And tying to the minimum wage so that fines do not lose their relevance in size.
    3) Good roads. Accomplished in proportion to their workload.
    4) Reducing the tax component for cars with a large amount of security systems. There is a small and very subjective comment. He was the owner of a used car from Germany, the brand of which any car sooner or later became wink So there, with the weakest motor in the lineup, the simplest cabin and the smallest wheels. There were all security systems, not only basic, but also those that come in the form of options for a fee. Here, we choose the most powerful motor and the largest wheels from the options.