Ankara’s request for Patriot air defense system from the United States is associated with Turkey’s desire to use its aircraft over Syria


The information that Turkey has requested Patriot anti-aircraft missile systems from the United States to cover its borders in the Idlib direction finds confirmation. According to media reports, Ankara “fears attacks from the Syrian military with the support of the Russian military aviation».


Experts believe that such systems are not necessary for Ankara at all to cover Turkish territory, but in order to be able to cover their warplanes in Syrian airspace.

It is important to note that a request for the supply of Patriot air defense systems to the USA from Turkey came last week - before the statements of Recep Erdogan that the start of the Turkish operation in Idlib is only a matter of time.

The fact that the Turks are more than determined is evidenced by an important fact. It turns out that the attack on the Russian Su-24 was delivered directly from the position of the Turkish army. TV channel "Star" publishes a video from an unmanned aerial vehicle. The drone camera captured the moment of launching an anti-aircraft missile.



Now the militants, who were driven back not without the help of the Russian Aerospace Forces, with the support of Turkish forces, are trying to advance south of Sarmin, eliminating the ledge that had previously been formed as a result of the offensive of the Syrian army.



For this, the militants used MLRS, which previously received from Turkish sponsors.

According to Turkish sources, the General Staff of the Turkish Armed Forces is considering the possibility of using the country's F-16 Air Force in Syrian airspace. But even if the United States agrees to supply Patriot air defense systems, a lot of time will pass before they are deployed at the border.
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  1. cniza 20 February 2020 19: 09 New
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    But even if the United States agrees to supply Patriot air defense systems, a lot of time will pass before they are deployed at the border.


    It turns out that the Sultan continues to threaten ...
    1. Livonetc 20 February 2020 19: 10 New
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      Dog slop.
      They took the penultimate bone that he considered his own.
      1. cniza 20 February 2020 19: 12 New
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        They have always been like that and believe that it is normal for them to be interested in the result, and in what methods and ways they do not care.
        1. Range 20 February 2020 23: 51 New
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          This means that no one has canceled the provocations, there is always a third force everywhere. And the fact that I am right will tell the number of minuses. On each branch, the site owner (from the promised land) assigns a group of minusers (minusers) harvested. Already a lot of them jump out of the "ambush" at the right time, when you need to blur the topic. Well, what are the minusers? Confirm my fair remark. The lower hemispheres to help you ...
          1. Range 21 February 2020 01: 14 New
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            ABOUT! The first, the second went ... fellow It turns out I was right. It's only the beginning...
        2. Range 20 February 2020 23: 58 New
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          Erdogandon lost the coast, if I'm wrong, then correct.
          1. cniza 21 February 2020 08: 54 New
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            He has "splashed" for a long time and is rushing about in search of his sultanate ...
    2. Sky strike fighter 20 February 2020 19: 13 New
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      A multi-vector weather vane by the name of Erdogan made another rotation of 180 degrees.
      "Turkey has requested the United States to deploy two Patriot air defense batteries on its southern border in order to provide freedom of action for retaliation in the event of any future Syrian-supported air attacks by Russian forces, a senior Turkish official in Ankara said," Bloomberg writes.

      https://news.rambler.ru/army/43719349-turtsiya-zaprosila-u-ssha-zrk-patriot-dlya-vozmezdiya/
      1. cniza 20 February 2020 19: 16 New
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        No matter how the axis is lost ...
        1. Aerodrome 20 February 2020 19: 20 New
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          Ankara’s request for Patriot air defense system from the United States is associated with Turkey’s desire to use its aircraft over Syria
          how is it ... the gentle calf of two mothers sucks .. ah! no, another, here "about low social responsibility ..".
          1. Sky strike fighter 20 February 2020 19: 26 New
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            affectionate calf of two moms sucks

            The main thing is that Erdogan did not succeed in the result of two folders.
            1. Aerodrome 20 February 2020 19: 32 New
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              Quote: Sky Strike fighter
              affectionate calf of two moms sucks

              The main thing is that Erdogan did not succeed in the result of two folders.

              play out will be.
    3. Vyacheslav Viktorovich 20 February 2020 19: 26 New
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      Why would he need a Patriot? But he has a wonderful S-400, why doesn’t he want to use them?
      1. Sky strike fighter 20 February 2020 19: 32 New
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        Quote: Vyacheslav Viktorovich
        Why would he need a Patriot? But he has a wonderful S-400, why doesn’t he want to use them?

        Depending on the direction of the wind, Erdogan plans to use the S-400 against the United States and Patriot (ha ha ha) against us.
      2. Aerodrome 20 February 2020 19: 35 New
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        Quote: Vyacheslav Viktorovich
        Why would he need a Patriot?

        to go fishing ...
      3. hydrox 20 February 2020 21: 28 New
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        Just now he needs the S-400 ...
        By definition: S-400 can not be used against Russian airborne forces, it is likely that self-liquidator can be hidden in the equipment.
        It was funny to see it ...
        1. Klingon 20 February 2020 21: 40 New
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          I think by sending a coded signal with khibiny or something else, the S-400 can simply be turned off or our planes can be invisible to it, or something else. in 2008, the Georgian Torah jammed with the Su-34 if I'm not mistaken, if I'm mistaken correct
          1. hydrox 20 February 2020 21: 49 New
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            No, now everything is more intelligent: as soon as our aircraft is captured, the defendant is activated and the air defense system stops pointing. But now the REBs have probably come up with something even more elegant ...
          2. Fedor Sokolov 20 February 2020 22: 48 New
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            "in 2008, the Georgian Torah jammed with the Su-34 if I’m not mistaken, if correct, correct" Mistaken! Not Georgian "Torahs", but Ukrainian "Buk M1", moreover, removed from combat duty in Ukraine itself.
            1. Klingon 21 February 2020 01: 19 New
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              Thank you for clarifying. as they say I heard a bell but did not know exactly where laughing
          3. Omskgasmyas 22 February 2020 06: 15 New
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            There were no TORAs, there were BUKs with Ukrainian crews. A pair of Su-34s destroyed a survey locator; BUKs became blind and safe for our aircraft. It is only in the inflamed brains of Ukrainians and Dutch iksperds that BUK can shoot down planes without target designation.
    4. knn54 20 February 2020 19: 32 New
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      The Sultan asks them for a long time. Believes the "argument" CONVINCING.
    5. Leeds 20 February 2020 19: 36 New
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      Quote: cniza
      But even if the United States agrees to supply Patriot air defense systems, a lot of time will pass before they are deployed at the border.


      It turns out that the Sultan continues to threaten ...


      I would not be so naive, in the next couple of days we will find out if he was going to ONLY threaten.

      According to MLRS received from Turkish sponsors - what kind of goat delirium. These are regular parts of the Turkish army.
    6. Evil543 20 February 2020 19: 39 New
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      Launching a rocket from the position of Turkey is not a threat already, but an act of aggression.
    7. alexmach 20 February 2020 20: 20 New
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      It turns out that the Sultan continues to threaten ...

      Well, so it turns out. Starting MANPADS from a position on Drying ... Perhaps one more shot down today.
  2. urik62 20 February 2020 19: 12 New
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    It’s not sickly that they beat out of artillery, the Syrians requested support for the air forces, the kneading begins.
  3. Fishery 20 February 2020 19: 12 New
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    it turns out the Turks are not afraid to bring down aircraft of the Russian Federation and the Russian Federation is even shy, why?
    1. 6erJIblu 20 February 2020 19: 22 New
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      Well, here we have a piece of gas pipe creeping along the Turks. Well, the Bosphorus. More questions?)
      1. Fishery 20 February 2020 19: 29 New
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        is) then why climb to where the Turks are, they will now knock down a couple more planes, and what Russia will do, again do not eat tomatoes, as it is shallow again to sit in the same puddle.
      2. 6erJIblu 20 February 2020 19: 36 New
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        Funny, it seems that few people know about the Blue Stream or the Bosphorus xD
        Modern local warfare is a business.
      3. My doctor 20 February 2020 19: 53 New
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        Quote: 6erJIblu
        Well, here we have a piece of gas pipe creeping along the Turks. Well, the Bosphorus. More questions?)

        Still there, a nuclear power plant is being built for Russian money
    2. Aerodrome 20 February 2020 19: 29 New
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      Quote: Tonya
      it turns out the Turks are not afraid to bring down aircraft of the Russian Federation and the Russian Federation is even shy, why?

      shot down one, and scared to shit ... remember how it was ... before our SU 24 burned out, the erdogan was already lying around at the merkel ...
      1. Fishery 20 February 2020 19: 30 New
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        somehow it doesn’t seem like scared behave like that.
        1. Aerodrome 20 February 2020 19: 38 New
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          Quote: Tonya
          somehow it doesn’t seem like scared behave like that.

          but the "rake" does not attract ...
        2. Omskgasmyas 22 February 2020 06: 19 New
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          Perdogan's behavior is dose dependent
  4. Voltsky 20 February 2020 19: 13 New
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    he won’t get anything. Do not go to the fortuneteller.
    1. Sky strike fighter 20 February 2020 19: 21 New
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      Assad may ask Iran for the Kyrgyz Republic, which attacked the Saudi oil fields and in the attack which the Patriot systems did not help much. It’s interesting how Assad’s money is? Armenia recently bought X-31PD anti-radar with a radius of 260 km from us. Or is it better to sell X-58USHKE anti-radar? Patriots are not a panacea for their results in Iraq and Saudi Arabia.
      1. Voltsky 20 February 2020 19: 49 New
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        Yes, everything can be sold to Assad, the only question is why ?! What dividends will this bring ?!
        Quote: Sky Strike fighter
        Assad may ask Iran for the Kyrgyz Republic, which attacked the Saudi oil fields and in the attack which the Patriot systems did not help much. It’s interesting how Assad’s money is? Armenia recently bought X-31PD anti-radar with a radius of 260 km from us. Or is it better to sell X-58USHKE anti-radar? Patriots are not a panacea for their results in Iraq and Saudi Arabia.


        Yes, everything can be sold to Assad, the only question is why ?! What dividends will this bring ?!
        (The Turks can be beaten in another way, and there are many effective ways - for example, the Kurds in Turkey itself with the proper financial support, better than any Syrian with a rocket)

        + As far as I remember, Erdogan does not have a completely ready calculation for the “Patriot”, they were asked even before they finished their studies; but to transfer the Patriot to Turkey with American calculation, again the same question “why, what dividends will it bring ?!”
        1. Omskgasmyas 22 February 2020 06: 22 New
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          It is not necessary to bring to war with Turkey. It is important to win the war of nerves and threats. As they say, which of the cowboys blinks first, he will lose.
          1. Voltsky 22 February 2020 13: 43 New
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            there is no poker to increase.
      2. ML-334 20 February 2020 19: 55 New
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        Will the Patriots pass the test, that’s the question, the Americans are at great risk if they give the Turks.
        1. Voltsky 20 February 2020 22: 16 New
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          will not give :) there is not a single reason to do this, and 1001 to not do this :)
  5. gel
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    Russia will always be able to slightly help the Kurds with weapons.
  6. Thrifty 20 February 2020 19: 15 New
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    What I wrote about earlier - the Turks fired on our plane! Did you draw any conclusions? Now they need to be tough, very tough to put in place! Everything outside of Turkish territory, all Turkish equipment and military personnel in Syria, are just targets for our missiles or bombs. On the territory of their country, they are residents of Turkey, military personnel, and then targets, and no one else! The Sultan wished that the corpses of his fellow tribesmen would flow in Turkey - so be it!
    1. RideMaster 20 February 2020 19: 23 New
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      All the number of calibers is not enough to even scare Turkey. And what else to beat there not from Syria itself?
      Alas, ours did not prepare for such a turn, otherwise, in about 2 years, at least a squadron of su 27 with trained Syrian pilots would be put there.
      1. Omskgasmyas 22 February 2020 06: 25 New
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        First, one would fly to Israel on the new Su, he would bomb the rest. The precedent has already been. These are Arabs!
    2. Aerodrome 20 February 2020 19: 41 New
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      Quote: Thrifty
      What I wrote about earlier - the Turks fired on our plane! Did you draw any conclusions? Now they need to be tough, very tough to put in place! Everything outside of Turkish territory, all Turkish equipment and military personnel in Syria, are just targets for our missiles or bombs. On the territory of their country, they are residents of Turkey, military personnel, and then targets, and no one else! The Sultan wished that the corpses of his fellow tribesmen would flow in Turkey - so be it!

      Oh, how ... the Yankees, too, no one called .. will you also “pack” in “polyethylene”? (I do not mind, but I would like to see ....)
      1. Thrifty 20 February 2020 19: 49 New
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        The airdrome is a smarter yankee, they don’t climb in the same ranks with manual fighters, they fight with the wrong hands, and from a safe distance. As soon as it burns, they withdraw troops from the line of fire!
    3. My doctor 20 February 2020 20: 01 New
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      Quote: Thrifty
      What I wrote about earlier - the Turks fired on our plane! Did you draw any conclusions? Now they need to be tough, very tough to put in place!

      First, you must first blow up the gas pipe and threaten to destroy the nuclear power plant in Akku. And so that they are generally in akku refuse to use the Bosphorus Strait.
      1. Tuzik 20 February 2020 20: 13 New
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        and threaten to destroy the nuclear power plant in Akku

        In Akka, everything is getting better)
        1. Paul Siebert 20 February 2020 21: 01 New
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          In Akka, everything is getting better)

          good
    4. Klingon 21 February 2020 01: 27 New
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      everything is correctly said, the question is simply the steepness of the eggs
  7. Sergst 20 February 2020 19: 16 New
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    So after all, the Turks have already officially denied this information ...
    1. Thrifty 20 February 2020 19: 23 New
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      They refuted it because they got into too much of this scam, it’s enough to understand that this time everything that is there will fly from Khmeinim for the downed plane, and the Erdogad will not just become bad — it will be its complete and final collapse as a politician. It is possible that things will not end with politics, such a failure will not be forgiven him. ..
      1. Guards turn 20 February 2020 19: 36 New
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        Gulen will bring order!
  8. shoroh 20 February 2020 19: 36 New
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    Again, there will be a peace enforcement operation.
  9. Scipio 20 February 2020 19: 36 New
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    The tomato sultan, no principles ....
  10. Vasyan1971 20 February 2020 19: 38 New
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    Turkey requested Patriot anti-aircraft missile systems from the United States to cover its borders in the Idlib direction.

    And this is against the background of the purchase of our S-400. Some garbage turns out ...
  11. Dude 20 February 2020 19: 39 New
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    We need to be more friends with the Turks. Well, what are the most reliable, historically, so to speak, proven allies of our Motherland! (Bitter sarcasm, actually)
    Let's sell them also Iskander, Yars and Zircon wassat
    Idiocy triumphs.
    1. Sky strike fighter 20 February 2020 19: 51 New
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      Let's sell the Colorado potato beetle so that it ate all the tomatoes from Erdogan.
      1. Dude 20 February 2020 20: 04 New
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        Let's sell the Colorado potato beetle so that it ate all the tomatoes from Erdogan.

        In this case, it is better to export late blight, it is more harmful for tomatoes than Leptinotarsa ​​decemlineata laughing lol
      2. Incvizitor 20 February 2020 21: 17 New
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        You can petriot to buy at the price of gold but there was no sense.
  12. svp67 20 February 2020 19: 40 New
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    But even if the United States agrees to supply Patriot air defense systems, a lot of time will pass before they are deployed at the border.
    Even if the US finds an opportunity to allocate and transfer to Turkey a division or at least a Patriot battery, but where will Turkey find already prepared and trained calculations? Also have to ask the Americans.
  13. Pacifist with AK 20 February 2020 19: 45 New
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    The situation is extremely alarming, at least. It’s hard to understand what's in Erdogan’s exuberant head! It’s some kind of wild mixture of Sultan’s ambitions with stupidity, cunning and extreme dishonesty. About Allah, he would build a nuclear power plant, earn money from gas supplies, feed everyone with his plastic tomatoes! Not life - halva with baklava. But apparently, the Ottoman itch in the exhaust pipe is indestructible. At first glance, this is a multi-path, but it doesn’t leave the obsessive impression that the undersultan simply blundered!
    1. Sky strike fighter 20 February 2020 19: 49 New
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      Coke? Any other options?
  14. Tank jacket 20 February 2020 19: 47 New
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    We will soon see how Patriot hits Istanbul airport. In Saudi Arabia, Patriot got to the airport ...
    What if Patriot hits civilian ships at Antalya Airport? With tourists from the Russian Federation ???
    1. Sky strike fighter 20 February 2020 19: 53 New
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      But can he "accidentally" get to Erdogan’s residence? Maybe Patriot will do something. Not all the same, only Arabs are bred.
      1. Tank jacket 20 February 2020 19: 55 New
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        And if a civilian flight to Antalya ??? You don’t have to go to Turkey to relax. There some comrades in the BV are already hiding behind civilian flights ... It's time to block the flow of tourists to Turkey.
        1. Sky strike fighter 20 February 2020 20: 04 New
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          For this, MANPADS may be enough. Use Patriot fawn for such purposes. And with a MANPADS and any terrorist element can cope, and with it bribes are smooth and ends in the water.
          1. Tank jacket 20 February 2020 20: 08 New
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            And if we assume that the Americans will remotely control the Turkish Patriot and send a missile to a Boeing with Russian tourists? Well, to set fire to the war?
  15. skazochnik 20 February 2020 19: 50 New
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    I didn’t understand. He (Outpost) just flew there to make a movie? And who will highlight the targets for the "Krasnopoli" Syrian artillery?
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  17. ugol2 20 February 2020 19: 53 New
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    It seems that the sultan completely lost his mind if he decided to openly shoot down Russian aircraft.
    Everyone understands that there is Turkish Stream, S-400, nuclear power plants, just business ...
    But if the stakes are raised so high that Putin will have no other choice but to give the order to iron this idyllic viper without analyzing who is moderate, who is not moderate, and who is lost by the Turks.
    Does the Sultan really consider his Turkey stronger than Russia, or is it Faberge stronger?
    I'm afraid he is mistaken.
    1. Tank jacket 20 February 2020 20: 05 New
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      Erdogan will be thrown into the Mediterranean by hotel owners in Antalya. wassat
  18. A.K. 20 February 2020 20: 08 New
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    Yes, we saw these petriots in Saudi Arabia. The Sultan wants to measure his peep-peeps, well, good luck. Yes, only after such actions of such figures usually fate is undeserving. Neither we nor the Yankees will definitely need it after all of this (consumed material).
  19. Xenofont 20 February 2020 20: 21 New
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    The Turk may decide to provoke Putin by throwing an attack on his warriors with armored vehicles. The Syrians will request air support from the videoconferencing system, and then ... ahh ... what?
    1. Fishery 20 February 2020 20: 25 New
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      Well, they will block the Bosphorus, and Assad will run out of resources
      1. Sky strike fighter 20 February 2020 21: 00 New
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        Quote: Tonya
        Well, they will block the Bosphorus, and Assad will run out of resources

        Over the years of the war, Assad probably has a system of supplying resources, and not only through the Bosphorus. Forget about the fact that Iran is building entire factories for the production of weapons in Syria. Well, and many trophies and caches of militants were covered during the war years.
        1. Fishery 20 February 2020 21: 02 New
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          The videoconferencing will not be able to fight Iran’s weapons, without a large volume of deliveries the Syrian army is not very different from the proxy
          1. Xenofont 20 February 2020 21: 36 New
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            There is an Iran-Iraq route that has been used for a long time, and can be dragged from the Baltic by water, albeit longer.
    2. Sky strike fighter 20 February 2020 20: 55 New
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      Quote: Xenofont
      The Turk may decide to provoke Putin by throwing an attack on his warriors with armored vehicles. The Syrians will request air support from the videoconferencing system, and then ... ahh ... what?

      Today it was so. The VKS were bombed by the opposition and the Syrians did not lose a single settlement.
      1. serzh.kost 20 February 2020 21: 11 New
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        there are rumors that Nairab is still occupied. it is unclear whether it is or not.
        1. serzh.kost 20 February 2020 23: 34 New
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          but no, this is from the daytime adventures of the Nusrovites))
  20. rocket757 20 February 2020 20: 26 New
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    Unclear. Messages about that ... level OBS.
    I'd rather wait for the foam to settle, not for the fire after all.
  21. Whalebone 20 February 2020 21: 16 New
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    If the Turks use the Air Force against Assad, this already looks like a big war. The consequences are easy to calculate. Is the Sultan bluffing all-in?
  22. mr.John 21 February 2020 00: 10 New
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    In my view, the escalation of tension was a strategic mistake. It was assumed that this tension would not escalate between Turkey and Russia, because who will ultimately win Washington. I think Washington is on top of joy now.
  23. Logan 21 February 2020 00: 16 New
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    We must warn Erdogan that in the event of a full-scale war against Syria, Russia will destroy all Turkish forces in the territory of the SAR with tactical nuclear weapons.
  24. Klingon 21 February 2020 01: 31 New
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    Quote: Tank jacket
    And if a civilian flight to Antalya ??? You don’t have to go to Turkey to relax. There some comrades in the BV are already hiding behind civilian flights ... It's time to block the flow of tourists to Turkey.

    it's time, we must act with striped methods))
  25. Ax Matt 21 February 2020 03: 38 New
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    Well then ... we will shoot down. Let's practice at the same time. “Patriots”, if they receive, they will not help them. So they will answer us FOR PATSAN.