Belarus. Elections 2020. The opposition goes into battle

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It smelled of elections in Belarus. And it smelled of interesting events. This year, the opposition, apparently, intends to give a decisive battle to Alexander Lukashenko, who, like many of his colleagues from the countries of the former USSR, claims to be “eternal”.

On the one hand, given our attitude to Lukashenko (there are complaints not without reason), we note that he will not be at all disturbed by someone who stands behind him and claims to be a chair, privileges, governing the country. Without normal opposition, any regime becomes totalitarian and begins to decay.



Military officials are beginning to take bribes to sign the acceptance of the spacesuit, officials and policemen are having hundreds of millions in garages and summer cottages from somewhere, judges are organizing lawlessness on the roads when drunk, and so on. In general, to assess the possibilities of a totalitarian state of such a plan, it is enough just to look at the negative side of Russian reality.

Belarusian Christian democracy goes into battle. And its permanent leader Pavel Sevyarynets.


Oppositionists really prepared, held congresses and are preparing for the primaries. In theory, as I said above - not bad, but why in the words there is, if not irony, then some kind of nasty taste?

Any Russian can find the answer in an interview with Sevyarynets to the publication Belarusian Partisan.

Lukashenko must leave.

Before moving on to evaluations, comparisons, and other analytical joys, I will give a few quotes that I’m sure will please the eye of a Russian of any political orientation, from left to far right.

An unconstitutional, ugly extension to the Kremlin and Lukashenko’s mafia agreements in the form of a “union state” - to a landfill.

We will begin mass protests in a few days after the announcement of the so-called elections.

Mass fraud will be the answer to any fraud. They do not give freedom - they fight for freedom.

There will be a political campaign where we will seek free elections or boycott. The backups and the circus do not count. The question is an edge: Lukashenko, go away!


Nice set, right?

Dear readers, does this remind you of anything? That reminds me. This is all familiar ... And I’d be glad to forget, but for some reason it doesn’t work out. But in order to evaluate everything correctly, it is worth carefully reading a few more things that Sevyarynets declared.

I must say that Mr. Sevyarynets is very confident in his abilities and even believes that he is able to become the new president of Belarus.

Confidence is not bad. It is very interesting to consider such plans. And here is what Pavel Sevyarynets sees in the event he is elected president of the Republic of Belarus:

- The abolition of illegal decrees and stupid decrees.
- Release of political prisoners, replacement of the prison with fines for economic crimes.
- The closure of all these poisonous factories like Brest Battery.
- Return to the legal field: 1994 Constitution or Constitutional Constituent Assembly.
- Decommunization and decentralization.
- First reforms: judicial system, health protection, pension system, education, army.
- Election of a democratic parliament and real local government. The people will choose and rule themselves.

Now, it’s becoming more interesting, right? As a carbon copy says. The people will choose and rule themselves ...

Belarus. Elections 2020. The opposition goes into battle

A vow on the Maidan is required? Or will it work?

No, good words. A good idea. True, it’s worth seeing what the neighbors took away. And how they directed. At least in Ukraine, with which Belarus solemnly fights for the penultimate place in terms of living standards in Europe.

I deliberately do not cite Russia as an example. And not because it is super-patriotic, no. Talk about Russia will be ahead.

For example, I really liked the passage about the closure of "all these" factories. Indeed, ecology today is our everything! It’s a pity, Mr. Candidate does not say what will happen to the people who work in these factories.

No, it’s clear that they’ll throw them on the street. Nothing, the job market in Russia is still large, there will be enough for all Belarusians thrown out to please the environment.

Decommunization ... What a familiar word ... What a promising ... Census stories, spat on the whole past, demolition of monuments ...


Interestingly, and Shybenіtsy for these ... who in Ukraine wanted a gillak, will also be? Or can we get along purely with dots on beeches in Belovezhskaya Pushcha?

Will there be dancing? Horse racing With the speech "Hto do not jump, that ..."? Classic, as it were ...


Reforms, reforms ...

Including the reform of the "unconstitutional, ugly extension to the mafia agreements of the Kremlin and Lukashenko."

Reform by dumping. And other agreements that do not comply with the Constitution and the national interests of Belarus - there too.

Instead, an economic agreement with the European Union, a normal friendship and cooperation agreement with Russia, a partnership with America and the Baltic-Black Sea Union with Poland, Lithuania, Latvia, and Ukraine are needed.

Yes, and, of course, visa-free. How without visa-free travel? And cookies.

In general, such a familiar scenario of the Ukrainian batch is drawn painfully. A kind of check.

And yes, of course, to the landfill this Russian language, bored by all real Belarusians. And a complete replacement for the Belarusian. Well, as in Ukraine, you already understood.

In principle, it is clear that Lukashenko got his electorate somewhat. It is comparable with some colleagues from among those who sat on thrones and chairs.

But another question, and who said that these gentlemen from the Belarusian Christian (and other) parties will really bring Belarus to prosperity?

They have already brought in Ukraine ...

They will bring Belarus, here, according to Sevyarynets, there’s just something to do: give people guarantees of private property, give them money, introduce small and transparent taxes so that the person himself can calculate at home. And in two or three years Belarus will be a prosperous country.

Or continue extinction with an even more deserted treasury.

The main thing is not to turn off the beaten path to freedom. But generally it’s not bad when someone has already gone this route. To freedom and prosperity.

It’s good, of course, that Belarus is so small and nobody wants to unfasten there yet. Also for the path to a brighter future. Although, if such an original president is elected, any processes can begin.

In general, there are interesting sensations from the read.

Just some kind of political deja vu. So it looks like everything that is happening around ... In Ukraine, with us ... What are we all the same, reading this Belarusian Christian messiah, you remember that in our recent past, about one amateur walked on bridges said about the same thing. And not only him, there will be enough followers for five Belarusian parties.

The main problem is that in Russia, that in Belarus, it is that if the opposition is there, then it is somehow not like that. How in Ukraine was collected and debugged.

This is the main, in my opinion, problem.
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  1. +7
    21 February 2020 05: 38
    The powers are different, but the scenario is one!
    Yes, they forgot about the Latin alphabet ...
    1. +6
      21 February 2020 05: 55
      In general, such a familiar scenario of the Ukrainian batch is drawn painfully. A kind of check.

      Well, the style of the "partners" does not change ... but why, when it works ..
      The main problem is that in Russia, in Belarus, it is that if the opposition exists, it’s somehow not like that

      That's right, the opposition is "cardboard" what is there, what we have .. But this is because the people have become for the most part infantile .. There was Stalin, there was a brave selfless people, there was Brezhnev, there was a creator people, and with these figures, the people are infantile. ...
      1. +10
        21 February 2020 06: 18
        "There was Stalin, there was a brave selfless people" - and when Khrushchev shit on Stalin, many condemned, or maybe when he took out the body !? Where was that "selfless" people?
        1. +2
          21 February 2020 07: 24
          Quote: CruorVult
          Where was that "selfless" people?

          If on the topic, then the people in these revolutions are used as a mass to achieve the goal of the Capitalists, businessmen and other moneybags, now there is a butting of the business elite of the Russian Federation, with Belarusian businessmen, and businessmen from the EU, no more no less, redistribution of the market and spheres of influence , everyone forgot about folk wisdom. Panas are fighting and at lackeys forelocks are cracking. The people, both in Ukraine and Belarus, and not only for unification, are against our business and the business of these neighbors. Everyone wants to steer, this is the contention and there is no unity among the Slavic people. Do you know who is to blame? As always they are.
      2. +2
        21 February 2020 12: 12
        Quote: Svarog
        Well, the style of the "partners" does not change ... but why, when it works ..

        It seems to begin to smack of a new Guangdong or Guangdum, how his devil is finally there?
    2. +14
      21 February 2020 06: 00
      There is no doubt that the Belarusian opposition is by and large maidanutaya. The Old Man is not a gift with his jokes, but his current opposition is for Belarus a political and economic collapse similar to Ukraine. negative
      1. +1
        21 February 2020 08: 17
        Well, not all for example LDPB is a completely different program, the rest of the grandasos, because thanks to them they introduced sanctions
      2. +2
        21 February 2020 11: 50
        Quote: bessmertniy
        The Old Man is not a gift with his jokes, but his current opposition is for Belarus a political and economic collapse similar to Ukraine.

        hi
        You're right. The attempt to "twine" on two chairs was a success only for one odious ballerina, and none of the leaderships of the countries. The LAS is insanely stubborn in its desire to prove to Russia and the West its independence from treaties and ties, which clearly leads it and the Republic of Belarus along the beaten track of the former Ukraine. He even jeopardizes the security of the territory of his country, just to prove his importance, that he will play a cruel joke with him in the style of "Yanukovychgate".
    3. +7
      21 February 2020 06: 09
      I was called a fascist here for wanting to bring tanks to the streets of Minsk, but Russian tanks in Belarus are just a form of a single country and a union of Slavic peoples, like in the USSR, our tactics drove along the roads of Belarus, but these kids, seizing power, also tanks will be invited to the streets of Minsk, only others - American ones! Like Ukrainians and Georgians! It turns out that I, who is glad for the unification of fraternal peoples, is a fascist, but this is the first photo of the patriots! Live and learn!
      1. +2
        21 February 2020 06: 25
        Quote: Finches
        It turns out that I, who is glad for the unification of fraternal peoples, is a fascist, but this is the first photo of the patriots! Live and learn!

        Good must be with fists .. This is a fact!
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          1. +2
            21 February 2020 06: 54
            Quote: Finches
            Yes, it's not fists! And it’s not about fists — our tanks in Minsk are the protection of the Slavic peoples living under the same roof for centuries against the aggressive and destructive Anglo-Saxon policies, since the time of Ivan the Terrible, we were not called barbarians: Russians, Ukrainians, Belarusians!

            Tanks is a fist .. figuratively, I agree with you, but I would also add that in addition to protecting the common house, we need to give something else ... In another way, we must offer a development model .. Now we are 30 years old on the spot and everyone sees it ..
            1. +1
              21 February 2020 06: 57
              So we fell apart so that we stood still and did not develop!
              1. +3
                21 February 2020 06: 58
                Quote: Finches
                So we fell apart so that we stood still and did not develop!

                It’s clear, but the process continues .. and something needs to be done with this ..
                1. +7
                  21 February 2020 07: 04
                  Restore your Slavic identity, and the worldview coming from the origins! From the ancestors who gave us vast territories and wealth for our own development, and not for us to sell them to Western bourgeoisie! As an image to my words, it was not Siberia and the Urals that heated our gas, but for some reason Western Europe ... My grandfathers didn’t develop gas fields for this, so that my grandchildren would still heat the stoves with wood!
                  1. +4
                    21 February 2020 07: 14
                    Quote: Finches
                    Restore your Slavic identity, and the worldview coming from the origins! From the ancestors who gave us vast territories and wealth for our own development, and not for us to sell them to Western bourgeoisie! As an image to my words, it was not Siberia and the Urals that heated our gas, but for some reason Western Europe ... My grandfathers didn’t develop gas fields for this, so that my grandchildren would still heat the stoves with wood!

                    Again, it is indisputable .. But again, in the current conditions, when the natural resources and wealth belong to the capitalists, the situation cannot be changed ... Only under the conditions of socialism is it possible for our people to reunite .. and he is one, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Russian is one people which is intentionally divided ..
                    And I fully agree that our natural assets should primarily work for us and provide for our needs. This is our huge competitive advantage, which significantly reduces the cost of the product, and if we had a developed industry, we could be a world leader in any production .. this is what the "partners" are afraid of and for this reason they made us a raw material appendage ..
                    1. +1
                      21 February 2020 07: 37
                      So we need a return from the anti-people to the popular system!
                      1. +2
                        21 February 2020 10: 40
                        And who will return? The same opposition will come and there will be
                        - The abolition of illegal decrees and stupid decrees.
                        - Release of political prisoners, replacement of the prison with fines for economic crimes.
                        - The closure of all these poisonous factories like Brest Battery.
                        - Return to the legal field: 1994 Constitution or Constitutional Constituent Assembly.
                        - Decommunization and decentralization.
                        - First reforms: judicial system, health protection, pension system, education, army.
                        - Election of a democratic parliament and real local government. The people will choose and rule themselves.

                        And then we will again look for the extreme. Who did all this, but we stood aside and did not know.
          2. +3
            21 February 2020 11: 55
            Quote: Finches
            Finches

            hi , Eugene.
            To what you said - at the mercy of the western nouveau riche, the Ruin put its ports on the sale lot:
      2. +5
        21 February 2020 08: 07
        Yes, I'm afraid no Rosgvardia is enough; you probably didn’t teach history
        http://mogilove.com/istoriya-mogileva-istreblenie-moskovskogo-vojska-v-1661-godu.html
        only voluntary association
        1. 0
          21 February 2020 11: 40
          Interesting story thanks.)
          1. 0
            21 February 2020 12: 26
            "We compensate $ 300 million." Putin called Lukashenko, talked about oil
            latest news
            1. 0
              21 February 2020 12: 28
              Well, then agreed. This is not bad, if that be so. The question is whether this will cover losses from last year’s oil poisoning situation.
              1. +1
                21 February 2020 12: 33
                So the barbel has become in a pose and he said I won’t be a storyteller
                1. 0
                  21 February 2020 12: 35
                  Well, then I had to.)
      3. 0
        24 February 2020 20: 50
        Belarus is an independent state. It’s time to get used to it. Russian tanks in Minsk, this means war.
    4. +6
      21 February 2020 07: 13
      He will throw more salaries to the Belarusian KGB and remain at the helm, and there he is not far from the Minsk elbasy. But there is a fear, however. Something at the father’s brain is out of order lately. They can also charge for health reasons.
      1. +1
        21 February 2020 11: 58
        Quote: siberalt
        Something at the father’s brain is out of order lately.

        hi
        Oleg, do not interfere with fishing.
        1. +1
          21 February 2020 12: 09
          Cool fish. Even for a free trough lol to hold on.
  2. +12
    21 February 2020 05: 48
    All the same, there are differences in terms of opposition in Ukraine and Belarus. If in Ukraine the USA was in charge of all the processes and the opposition was a purely Western project, then in Belarus the situation is strange. The pro-Russian opposition has been cleaned up (it is generally not visible in the brotherly country), but they give the go-ahead to any local pro-Western opposition forces, and who is standing on this process? Right, Mr. Lukashenko. I don’t know if this is an attempt to flirt with the West, or in this way he decided to hedge himself against the union state and therefore grows such opposition in his country, but the fact remains. Moreover, the work of the opposition in Belarus is in full swing, it is both a struggle for the language (something reminds :)), and an attempt to impose their opinions on young people, when there is a beautiful Europe and barbarian Russia, and the culture is also slowly changing, even if you recall St. George’s tape, then it suddenly became the colors of Belarus. And a lot where in the little things this is manifested .... so that Alexander Grigoryevich leads a strange policy, his history does not teach.
    1. 0
      21 February 2020 06: 18
      Quote: Aleksandr21
      The pro-Russian opposition has been cleaned up (it is not visible at all in the brotherly country), but all local pro-Western opposition forces are given the go-ahead, and who is above this process

      There is no pro-Russian opposition or movement at all anywhere in the post-Soviet space .. and this fact makes us wonder, why actually? Russia has nothing to offer .. no idea .. no technology, no science .. I believe that Russia should be an empire and must offer its own development option for the post-Soviet countries, and of course, it must itself choose its own path .. We have been in this business for more than 30 years we live in an alien ideology, where only money rules .. we hang out like a city in the ice hole .. During this period, we have greatly degraded .. lost science, collapsed education, we don’t have our own pharmacology .. it's hard to name even one industry where we have made serious progress .. so what can we offer the world?
      For this reason, I believe that it is necessary to roll back and take the best, since when the red flag proudly developed. When we were really respected, appreciated, took an example from us ..
      1. +3
        21 February 2020 07: 59
        Quote: Svarog
        so what can we offer the world?

        We have already proposed and all "non-civilized" countries agree with us. I mean globalization in Russian. More than two thousand years of globalization in the West, has brought the world to the brink of economic, environmental and military disaster. The peoples of the World no longer recognize Western globalization as the only correct one.

        The West, as a parasite, is trying to survive at the expense of our former socialist countries and former union republics. Ukraine extended their agony for a few more years. The queue for Belarus ...

        Should we continue to support Belarus, when its leader constantly shits on us? No. Should we attach it by force? No. "You can't be cute by force."

        The people themselves are the builders of their own happiness and misery. As the classics of Marxism-Leninism wrote: "Until the idea took possession of the masses, it is dead." If the people of Belarus do not understand what happened in Ukraine, then this is not our problem. Internet and satellite TV to help them. Today, any information is available, there would be a desire, but those who believe that his hut is on the edge should remember that it is the outer hut that burns first.
      2. +3
        21 February 2020 09: 54
        Quote: Svarog
        Quote: Aleksandr21
        The pro-Russian opposition has been cleaned up (it is not visible at all in the brotherly country), but all local pro-Western opposition forces are given the go-ahead, and who is above this process

        There is no pro-Russian opposition or movement at all anywhere in the post-Soviet space .. and this fact makes us wonder, why actually? Russia has nothing to offer .. no idea .. no technology, no science .. I believe that Russia should be an empire and must offer its own development option for the post-Soviet countries, and of course, it must itself choose its own path .. We have been in this business for more than 30 years we live in an alien ideology, where only money rules .. we hang out like a city in the ice hole .. During this period, we have greatly degraded .. lost science, collapsed education, we don’t have our own pharmacology .. it's hard to name even one industry where we have made serious progress .. so what can we offer the world?
        For this reason, I believe that it is necessary to roll back and take the best, since when the red flag proudly developed. When we were really respected, appreciated, took an example from us ..


        Come on points.
        1. "The pro-Russian opposition was cleaned out (it is generally not visible in a fraternal country" - the very definition of "opposition" is a group of individuals within a certain society, organization, party, leading a policy of opposition, resistance to the majority. In Belarus, it is pro-Russian, then it is not entirely correct to write "Pro-Russian opposition".

        I agree with the fact that the "dad" feeds local Natsiks, exactly as Yanukovych did.

        2. "Russia has nothing to offer" - oh well, that is, the union state was not offered to them, the resources were not driven without duties, and the dad has been chairman of the committee on the union state for half a dozen years, but there is nothing to offer.

        3. "technology, no science" - tryndezh, that is, we do not fly into space, we do not build nuclear power plants, and our students do not win at world Olympiads. Yes, there is a lot of work, but to say that there is no such thing is a lie.

        4. "For this reason, I believe that it is necessary to roll back" - how do you do this, we are not in the game, you cannot take and load to go through again, well, there is an excellent ancient wisdom: "you cannot enter the same the same river. "
        1. +1
          21 February 2020 10: 34
          3. "technology, no science" - tryndezh, that is, we do not fly into space, we do not build nuclear power plants, and our students do not win at world Olympiads. Yes, there is a lot of work, but to say that there is no such thing is a lie.
          Space and nuclear power plants are the legacy of the USSR, as well as science with education, which are gradually destroying, sorry, "reforming". I was glad about victories at the Olympiads. Now consider this: 70% of those leaving Russia have a higher education, which is significantly higher than the average level in the country. "A survey by the Boston Consulting Group, which was attended by 24 thousand respondents, showed that 50% of Russian scientists, 52% of top managers, 54% of IT specialists want to work abroad. 49% of engineering workers and 46% of doctors are ready to join them. Almost two thirds of potential expats (65%) are “digital talents”: artificial intelligence specialists, scrum masters, user interface designers, etc. 57% of them are young people under the age of 30. students (up to 21 years old) the share is even higher and reaches 59%. " https://www.finanz.ru/novosti/aktsii/utechka-mozgov-iz-rossii-prevysila-10-millionov-chelovek-1028587894
    2. -3
      21 February 2020 08: 36
      Pro-Russian opposition cleared
      Is there evidence of stripping the pro-Russian opposition? Who and when from our power structures created it? All that I see from our authorities is attempts to take Belarusian industry into the hands of our oligarchs by racketeering methods. Do not want to give the plants - turn off the gas. Despite the fact that the Kremlin-oligarchic elite managed to bring our economy to a crisis with high oil prices, almost putting hundreds of billions of dollars in offshore along the way, so Lukashenko is absolutely right in this situation, not allowing robbing Belarus. Than to look for rubbish in the eyes of neighbors, pay attention to the logs in our own.
      1. +1
        21 February 2020 09: 11
        Quote: vic02
        Is there evidence of stripping the pro-Russian opposition? Who and when from our power structures created it? All that I see from our authorities is attempts to take Belarusian industry into the hands of our oligarchs by racketeering methods. Do not want to give the plants - turn off the gas. Despite the fact that the Kremlin-oligarchic elite managed to bring our economy to a crisis with high oil prices, almost putting hundreds of billions of dollars in offshore along the way, so Lukashenko is absolutely right in this situation, not allowing robbing Belarus. Than to look for rubbish in the eyes of neighbors, pay attention to the logs in our own.


        So the fact of the matter is that there is no pro-Russian opposition, the political field in Belarus has been completely cleared, although the pro-Western opposition is doing quite well for itself. Did the west create it? I don’t think Lukashenka’s hand is visible here, since it’s obvious that he decided long ago to jump off the creation of the union state, and this opposition is one of his cards, and it has already begun to give results, remember recently there was a poll in the media that already a smaller% of Belarusians want integration with Russia, and PR protests? it seems that a few people go out to protests against the union state, but how is all this presented. Even the example of St. George's ribbon, which I gave above, who did it interfere with in Belarus? But no, we went along the path of Ukraine, and did it with the colors of the Belarusian flag, and there seems to be nothing wrong, but the very tendency to break ties is visible. And all this comes from the top. And regarding the general pro-Russian forces in Belarus, they are, but not in power. Regarding the absorption of Belarus, as you write, the "Kremlin-oligarchic elite" all these years sponsored and subsidized the economy of Belarus, and the Belarusian economic miracle was kept on the sale of energy resources (oil / gas) at low prices to Belarusians, and it was this circumstance that allowed the industry in Belarus to be preserved. not a wise policy of Lukashenka. Remove this aspect, so immediately the economic miracle will end and the market will knock on the door. Why am I ... to rob especially then and nothing in Belarus that you can rob there? What is there in Belarus that is not in Russia? Therefore, it is doubtful.
        1. +1
          21 February 2020 10: 06
          Have you forgotten recent history? Until the age of 14, Lukashenka was "the last dictator in Europe", etc. from the point of view of Western propaganda, simply because he did not allow the destruction and plunder of the industrial heritage of the USSR and prevented the republic from repeating the path of the Baltic republics. Therefore, Belarus now has an alliance with us, and not with NATO. There is no oil and gas, what money will be spent on modernization of production? It was here that your clients got their backs, or as you put it, "the Kremlin-oligarchic elite" sponsored and subsidized all these years, "along the way, withdrawing much larger sums to offshores. And when they themselves smelled of fried, they demanded compensation for losses in the style of racketeering, not taking into account that Belarus is of key strategic importance for us. Therefore, the reaction of the Belarusian authorities is justified. The mistake of Belarus is that it got in touch with this money and these people, but apparently there was no other way out. So continue to praise our oligarchs, maybe the arrival of NATO in Belarus will correct your perception of reality, although unlikely.
          1. +1
            21 February 2020 10: 38
            The Republic of Belarus did not repeat the fate of the Baltic republics, because it turned out to be more profitable to be friends with Russia than with the EU or the United States. And the Balts left for the EU against the backdrop of Russophobia and pro-Western governments there, as the saying goes, "in spite of my mother, I will frostbite my ears" that's about them. It was economically more profitable for them to enter into an economic union with Russia in some kind of association (it does not matter the CU or whatever it was called), but they chose "independence" which, in fact, does not exist for small states (not taking Switzerland and a couple of other countries) ... There was no such Russophobia in Belarus and Lukashenko realized that it is more profitable to milk Russia than to try to milk the EU. By the way, Poland did it, billions of euros were poured into its economy, but the example of the Baltic countries and Ukraine, as well as other eastern states, is rather sad. Returning to Belarus, there is no need to frighten Russia - NATO, this is called blackmail, either Russia must feed Belarus or we will go to NATO, this is not an alliance. And regarding the policy of Belarus, sitting on two or even three chairs (if you remember about China), then what is right here? Initially, the integration process was launched within the framework of the union state, and when the time came, we did not agree, but how to get all sorts of buns from Russia is so please, we are brothers. This is not done.
            1. -1
              21 February 2020 11: 16
              do not scare Russia - NATO, this is called blackmail, either Russia must feed Belarus or we will leave for NATO, this is not an alliance.
              Your position is precisely "to spite my mother, I will frostbite my ears" wink Like ah, you warn us that without support we will leave you, then we will not play, you will not be our allies. So do you want an alliance with Belarus or not? If so, then we must act accordingly - develop cooperation, create and support pro-Russian social forces there, and not push our oligarchs and engage in industrial racketeering.
        2. +2
          21 February 2020 10: 46
          Do not be like: it is the oligarch Lukashenko who intimidates his people with "Russian oligarchs." In reality, there is little that remains attractive in Belarus. Moreover, the time has already come to ASK someone (!) To save and modernize Belarusian enterprises. The Russian state cannot do this; the Russian (or any other) business must be enticed. Belarus itself could not do this and will no longer be able to. Lukashenka’s recent actions will completely ruin the economy. It's sad.
      2. +2
        21 February 2020 10: 00
        "so Lukashenka is absolutely right in this situation, not allowing to rob Belarus" - according to the IMF, Russia has invested in 10 years about 100 lards of greenery in Belarus, such a good robbery.

        Such Lukashenko sits, being the chairman of the union state, Crimea does not recognize, does not create a single economic space, there are no uniform laws, receives oil without duties, which he drives to Europe and Ukraine, while driving us a European food under the guise of his own, after 14 years of import apples to Belarus grew 4 times, 68 kilos for each Belarusian is obtained. At the same time, he rubs in on "independence" and "not our war."
        1. 0
          21 February 2020 10: 11
          For 10 years, Russia has invested about 100 lard greens in Belarus, such a good robbery.
          I recommend that you ask how much "greenery" has been taken from Russia to offshores over the same 10 years wink At the same time, answer the question - Does Belarus have strategic importance for us as an ally? wink
          1. 0
            21 February 2020 10: 38
            Ally in what place? There is not a single fact of support for Belarus as an ally in the confrontation between the Russian Federation and the collective west. The West sees this and continues to be pressured. We have no allies. Yes, actually, it never happened. Enemies want to capture and divide, and allies want to stick to the resource base.
            1. 0
              21 February 2020 10: 44
              Ally in what place?
              You probably consider yourself a patriot, or are you acting in the interests of our "partners", or are you simply illiterate? Ask what the CSTO is and who its current secretary general is.
              1. +2
                21 February 2020 12: 52
                Quote: vic02
                You probably consider yourself a patriot, or are you acting in the interests of our "partners", or are you simply illiterate? Ask what the CSTO is and who its current secretary general is.

                That is, concrete examples supporting Belarus as an ally in the confrontation of the Russian Federation with the collective west You cannot bring.
                Mantras about the fact that Belarus will protect Russia from the West is not necessary. For there are great chances that the same Mackay will meet NATO tanks with bread and salt. Flowers to the memorial to the soldiers who died in the struggle for the territorial integrity of Georgia (this is to those who walked with fire and sword in the manner recognized by Belarus of Abkhazia and South Ossetia) the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Belarus already laid.
                By the way, when Lavrov was offered to lay flowers at this monument, he demanded that this item be excluded from the program of the visit. And on the statement of the Georgian side that the program of the official visit is unchanged and compulsory, Lavrov canceled the official visit, reducing his rank to one that allowed him not to lay flowers.
                1. 0
                  2 March 2020 08: 17
                  In addition to the empty phrases that you posted here, do you have specific thoughts on how to prevent NATO from coming in one form or another to Belarus? Or do you propose to further worsen relations with Lukashenko?
          2. 0
            21 February 2020 10: 42
            Rofl, offshores for that and offshores, to hide the loot, no one will give you official data to the tax authorities, how much he "brought". And then the withdrawal of the dough to offshores and dating of Belarus !?

            This is called a "logic bomb", you substitute one question for another.

            “Russia has only two allies - its army and navy.” And judging by Lukashenka’s actions, he is not an ally to us. And now the people are also inciting people against Russia, I'm talking about "not our war."
            1. -1
              21 February 2020 11: 04
              no one will give you official data to the tax authorities how much he "brought out"
              The Central Bank of Russia does not agree with you http://fincan.ru/articles/28_ottok-kapitala-iz-rossii-ctatistika-po-godam/ I do not replace anything, Belarus has a strategic position for us and is our CSTO ally. It is necessary to take into account and create and maintain within Belarus pro-Russian forces, and not stupidly engage in the squeezing of production.
              1. 0
                21 February 2020 13: 32
                1. According to the article, it is Dishchenskaya, the author does not know the definition of "capital" and what is its outflow.
                2. This is funny, that is, Belarus has strategic importance for us, and I agree here, but Russia has no less significance for the BR, which does not prevent Lukashenko from doing somersaults.

                3. Can you list what Russia has "squeezed out"?
                1. 0
                  2 March 2020 08: 49
                  According to the article, it is from Dishchenskaya, the author does not know the definition of "capital" and what is its outflow.
                  Yes, the Central Bank of the Russian Federation also does not know this, only Eugene is in the know. laughing Here is another "Dishchenskaya" article by the TASS news agency, this time with statistics for 18-19 years https://tass.ru/ekonomika/7547165
                  2. If you have already lowered Russia to the level of a small landlocked country, significant natural resources and a nuclear arsenal, and playing a secondary role in world politics, then such your reasoning is entirely acceptable.
                  3. Firstly, not Russia, but for example - Deripaska. Or do you think Deripaska = Russia? And secondly, thank God nothing so far.
          3. +4
            21 February 2020 10: 54
            Byelorussia was not marked by any "allied" actions. Absolutely. Offshores and Belarus are like cold, but smelly - a completely different topic.
            1. -2
              21 February 2020 11: 48
              And what kind of "allied" actions did Russia show?
              1. +2
                21 February 2020 12: 58
                Quote: Darkesstcat
                And what kind of "allied" actions did Russia show?

                ... from 2000 to 2010, the level of annual financial support to Belarus or the shortfall in Russian income in our economic relations ranged from hundreds of millions of dollars to 2-3 billion, and now it is already 5-6 billion a year.
                © Babich
                6 billion dollars a year from the budget of the Russian Federation. Who was talking about Belarusian economic miracle? It seems his source will find. smile
                1. -1
                  21 February 2020 13: 29
                  up to 9 per year, 3 direct loans and 6 on oil / gas without duties.
                  1. -2
                    21 February 2020 13: 35
                    Quote: CruorVult
                    up to 9 per year, 3 direct loans and 6 on oil / gas without duties.

                    Babich and 6 billion were not forgiven.
                    Honestly, there is not always enough time to read all the interviews of Mikhail Babich. Fortunately, they are all similar and the mentoring line of reasoning does not change much. Therefore, without reading carefully, I can say for sure that the relations between our countries and peoples are much deeper and more comprehensive than an artificial, rigged set of numbers for which the Russian diplomat regularly grabs. But it is his right to determine the bar for himself, which turns him into an accountant or budding accountant.

                    I would like to recommend more time to devote to delve into the specifics of the host country, get acquainted with its history and show a little respect. Sometimes this style of work gives a much greater result than testing the role of an adherent of public diplomacy that is completely uncharacteristic for a serious Russian diplomatic school.
                    © Head of the Information and Digital Diplomacy Department of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Belarus Anatoly Glaz
                    What is characteristic, not a single figure from an interview in the Belarusian Foreign Ministry was refuted.
  3. +6
    21 February 2020 05: 49
    And what kind of opposition should it be? Give, dear author, an example, albeit not ideal, but such as you think the opposition is normal? And why isn’t it so bold that Putin has never been mentioned in plain text? Tea is not in Greece, we are in Russian, not in Aesopian language
    1. +2
      21 February 2020 06: 00
      Quote: Andrey VOV
      tea is not in Greece

      And not in France, where the opposition is withdrawing millions of protesters against pension reform.
      1. -1
        21 February 2020 08: 02
        Quote from Uncle Lee
        And not in France, where the opposition is withdrawing millions of protesters against pension reform.

        And what are the results? They got their way?

        In France, in 2017, the retirement age was extended from 60 to 62,5 years, and the authorities plan to increase it by 2023 to 67 years.
        1. +3
          21 February 2020 08: 05
          Quote: Boris55
          They have achieved

          Achieved! Pension reform has been postponed, gas prices have been lowered. The fight goes on.
          1. +1
            21 February 2020 08: 13
            Quote from Uncle Lee
            Pension Reform Postponed

            If the frog is thrown into boiling water, then it will jump out and remain alive, and if it is slowly heated in a boiler with water, then it will boil - the French chose the latter.
            1. +1
              21 February 2020 08: 17
              Bad example. The French had a former French revolution - the sea shed blood! And heads chopped - just hold on!
              And if you sit on the priest exactly - only hemorrhoids and sit out.
              1. +1
                21 February 2020 08: 39
                Quote from Uncle Lee
                And if you sit on the priest exactly - only hemorrhoids and sit out.

                Which is stronger - thought or power? For me, the answer is obvious - a stronger thought. If you fidget all the time on the priest, then apart from thoughts like from the priests, others will not come, and they have not a lot of smell ... Well, if it’s very bad, then it’s the proctologist. laughing

                I am against all revolutions because shows the experience of all of them, including and colored people in power change, but the life of the common people does not change. The exception is the Stalinist revolution of 1924. We study experience and put it into practice.
                1. 0
                  21 February 2020 10: 49
                  Quote: Boris55
                  Which is stronger - thought or power?

                  This is verbiage! Although you sometimes have sound judgments!
          2. +1
            21 February 2020 10: 40
            We have gasoline cheaper from 45 to 42.
            1. +1
              21 February 2020 10: 47
              Quote: Redfox3k
              gasoline

              We have passed 95 for 50 rubles, and 92 49,60 rubles!
          3. -1
            21 February 2020 19: 21
            What an opposition !? Who reduced that in France)) Bullshit!
            Democracy exists within each system, whether it is a capitalist regime or a socialist regime, whoever they vote for will not change
            Is that just to change the system
            and these are my dear revolution
            which also needs money
    2. 0
      21 February 2020 06: 23
      Quote: Andrey VOV
      And what should it be, the opposition?

      The opposition, like any movement, should pursue a goal and, if not achieve it completely, then at least partially influence state policy and decision-making by the authorities. The opposition is a counterbalance in a healthy society, in fact, it must create competition, as a result of which , citizens should live better ..
      1. -1
        21 February 2020 10: 43
        That is, if under Stalin there was no opposition, then society was unhealthy?
        1. -1
          21 February 2020 10: 46
          Quote: _Sergey_
          That is, if under Stalin there was no opposition, then society was unhealthy?

          In today's realities, the question is being considered .. Under Stalin there was also a party and another ideology that, by definition, did not need the opposition, why the opposition is where everything is subordinate to the majority opinion .. but when the majority opinion is not taken into account, the opposition is certainly needed ..
          1. 0
            21 February 2020 10: 49
            And today, at the helm, one can say, one batch. The rest then disperse? And there will be one majority under the governing and guiding EP.
            1. -2
              21 February 2020 10: 51
              Quote: _Sergey_
              And today, at the helm, one can say, one batch. The rest then disperse? And there will be one majority under the governing and guiding EP.

              The difference is that today's party works for a narrow stratum of citizens, and the CPSU reflected the needs of all citizens, well, or the vast majority ..
  4. +4
    21 February 2020 06: 01
    The situation is such that, apparently, it will be the first time to vote for Alexander Grigorievich !!!!!! Not funny, believe me.
  5. +2
    21 February 2020 06: 10
    I took it from Ukrainian sites. "Wait for the Maidan in Belarus! There people are brave as well as Ukrainians, so soon Lukash will go to Rostov for permanent residence."
    1. -1
      21 February 2020 10: 59
      It is necessary to publicly close Lukashenko's visa to Rostov. Maybe then she’ll change her mind.
  6. +2
    21 February 2020 06: 14
    Without normal opposition, any regime becomes totalitarian and begins to decay.
    What nonsense? "Democracies" are also successfully rotting with the opposition.
    Well, dad, save Nenko. Narulil.
    replacing a prison with fines for economic crimes.
    Actually, you need the death penalty, as in China.
  7. +5
    21 February 2020 06: 42
    Hmmm ... "script"! But I remember the events "several years ago" in Belarus! I remember pictures of "protest" rallies, demonstrations ... I remember slogans against the "union state", against Russia ... But do we need this? Then they managed to calm down the excited opposition ... (Was the purgen, perhaps, poured into the "drinks"? what ), so protest rallies and "dissipated" ... True, there was a rumor that Lukashenko then "calmed" the opposition, with the support of Russia! And then, since the "kondebobel" happened (!) ... "Batka", something more active than before, began to quarrel with Russia! So the "opposition" and "perked up"! I am very sorry for the Belarusians and I sympathize with them (the common people!) ... God forbid that events in Belarus follow the "Ukrainian" scenario! If you "look closely" at the so-called opposition, you will notice that the plans of the "oppositionists" are copied from the "Maidan scenario" as if under tracing paper! And, especially, in terms of anti-Russian "measures": both "decommunization" and "against the Russian language", and "Belarus-tse Europa", and "sanctions" against Russia ... and so on. , etc. !
  8. -1
    21 February 2020 07: 01
    The first reforms: the judicial system, health protection, the pension system, education, the army are especially interesting about health, pensions and education - to pinch them in a Western fashion? and the Army than did not please him? The populist swears.
  9. -3
    21 February 2020 07: 01
    Gentlemen, how to write and speak correctly, Belarus, or Belarus? Someone I don’t understand how to write the Belarusian partisan, or the Belarusian partisan. something smells like Ukrainian grammar, like NA or B)))))) Yeah, deja vu is now some kind of Baltic regiment for earnings in the EU, competitors from the BSSR will be added (for now I will write like that)))))
    1. +2
      21 February 2020 07: 28
      Well, like an officer of the Republic of Belarus (Republic of Belarus), but if the Latin alphabet is introduced !! Kazakhs entered from, such pearls are issued))) I have seen the word house, in Kazakh, I have already seen 4 different spellings, written in Cyrillic, I saw the coolest in Latin in quyi.
  10. +1
    21 February 2020 07: 48
    For some reason, every generation, apparently to enlighten our brains, voluntarily tries to get into shit right by the whole face.
    1. +2
      21 February 2020 08: 15
      They do not believe the elders that the feces are not tasty and stink. Owner himself.
  11. +1
    21 February 2020 07: 53
    Belarusian Christian democracy goes into battle. And its permanent leader Pavel Sevyarynets.

    It doesn’t matter whether the type of guaido will be more successful or not, just jumps begin ??? No one trying to sit on several chairs will sit for a long time ... this is an axiom.
  12. +3
    21 February 2020 08: 12
    It will not be easy for Belarus. A thief on one side, a gang on the other.
  13. -1
    21 February 2020 08: 26
    if Russia were great and mighty? everyone would love us (or were afraid) and would like to be friends with us and the line of "friends" would stand to the horizon (there would be no need to suggest introducing "tanks to Minsk"). . Belarus will fall off unambiguously, it may be softer than Ukraine, but it will fall off - time has passed.
  14. +4
    21 February 2020 08: 30
    Lukashenko will be able to defeat the candidate of the pro-Russian formation, all Pamyarkou ... ordinary Poles, they must be cleaned in advance.
    1. +1
      21 February 2020 08: 36
      they, like, associate themselves with the Livins.
      1. +3
        21 February 2020 09: 38
        Poles do kipizh, for money and Poles visas. This is their gesheft. Litvins preserve folk art.
  15. +3
    21 February 2020 08: 40
    Well, the second Ukraine is looming on the horizon .... One was a blood-shedding parasite on the body of Russia, the other in general ---- we are ours, we will build a new world ....... And that means they will skip foam, talking about Russia. ... Until the iron hand of the military of Belarus takes control of the situation and decides whether Belarus becomes part of Russia, this state will hang in the air and be on the verge ... After some time, the moment will come when the Russians will think , and whether it is necessary to join Belarus to itself in general, if they so wants to ride ..... Russia does not need horses.
  16. 0
    21 February 2020 08: 52
    Some zmagars consider this a democracy.
    https://realt.onliner.by/2020/02/20/dyra-nedeli-18
  17. +1
    21 February 2020 09: 11
    And if Luka flies in the election, what will happen to Belarus? After all, she does not have such a stock as in Ukraine. And where are the communists, something is not heard at all?
    1. 0
      21 February 2020 11: 08
      He won’t fly by, he’s been re-electing himself a fiction for a long time, by the way 166 thousand tons of oil were bought by Russian, more precisely, they were bought through Klaipeda, the tanker will be loaded into tanks
  18. -1
    21 February 2020 09: 45
    Got game dad. It's a pity . My parents are all from Belarus .. In the 80s, there were 6 enterprises in my subordination (9 GU MRP USSR), 90 thousand specialists worked there. All enterprises are liquidated.
  19. -1
    21 February 2020 09: 55
    Rather than follow the path of Ukraine and start a fratricidal civil war, it is better to engage in aggressive wars. For example, you can make an exit to the Baltic. And there is always a reason for war.

    The United States and its satellites can, but not others, perhaps? Everything is better than wetting each other.
  20. 0
    21 February 2020 10: 04
    the opposition is certainly not bad, but as such, the opposition does not exist, but a bunch of provocateurs and traitors have gathered who are ready to sell their mother for a couple of green papers
  21. 0
    21 February 2020 11: 19
    Independence is very expensive, breaking ties with Russia, Belarus will collapse to the very bottom of its development. DB as said Lavrov S.V.
  22. +1
    21 February 2020 11: 34
    Quote: Finches
    So we need a return from the anti-people to the popular system!

    So the Belarusian opposition screams about it. So the Ukrainian opposition shouted about it before the Maidan.
    It is about this. Only the result for some reason is not as expected.
    Why did you decide that if you shout the same thing in Russia, the result will be exactly that?
    1. 0
      21 February 2020 11: 49
      He is such a magical national system, everyone who shouts about him takes care of the people.
  23. 0
    21 February 2020 11: 48
    Something uncertain, we also have to 2024 is not far off
  24. +2
    21 February 2020 11: 56
    We remember the "dashing 90s" very well. God forbid, again, in the same turn. We are still getting out of the swamp. Are there really not enough examples of Russia and Ukraine? You also want to step on a rake? Right now, many are trying to criticize "Putin's Russia". Have you forgotten how you haven't paid your salary for months, how you haven't paid your pensions for months? And there was no question of any social payments and benefits. Yes, we also have difficulties, but still Russia is steadily moving forward, despite the colossal pressure on it from Western countries and the United States. Russia has managed to win its place in the world and in spite of everything the West has to reckon with Russia. We have not slipped to the level of "sew it - stop it". Factories are built, roads are built, life goes on. Pensions are paid on a day-to-day basis, and I am not talking about social support for motherhood in Russia at all. No country can boast of such payments. Really, the Belarusians will not find a single worthy person, except for these "pseudo revolutionaries"? What has become of the people? Have you completely lost your mind? These "pseudo revolutionaries" will get their "cookies", and the people? Into begging?
    1. +1
      21 February 2020 12: 03
      They are everywhere, someone naively believes that they will fall manna from heaven, someone for their own benefit.
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  25. 0
    21 February 2020 12: 39
    Yes, the program of this idiot will destroy everything again, and then .... All this has already passed.
  26. 0
    21 February 2020 13: 35
    As long as the United States and its satellites are used to robbing their difficulties, it will be
  27. 0
    21 February 2020 13: 58
    It is regrettable that 717 km from Moscow, perhaps, there will be a center of Russophobia and propaganda of neo-fascist Polish nationalist ideas, and NATO and US soldiers will be walking around. And this is in the 4st century, and this is on the ground where every 1941th of the inhabitants fell in the war against fascism in 1945-XNUMX. One cannot, in fact, believe a prop-condom with a premium in its teeth, which assures that the Belarusians went to the Red Army and the SS unconsciously, just to survive. Well, wait and see what "conscious" choice Belarusians will make today in order to survive. For some reason, I want to believe the Belarusians.
  28. +1
    21 February 2020 14: 22
    Well it goes. But not into battle. Only old men go into battle. "The party is our helmsman." Any "opposition" demands: "Let the party steer", but people with clip thinking are not able to steer. Lukashenka has started and is playing a too difficult game for survival. As a result, Kolya may remain at a completely broken trough.
    1. 0
      21 February 2020 21: 04
      Quote: iouris
      ... Lukashenko has started and is playing a too complicated game for survival. As a result, Kolya can remain with a completely broken trough.

      Belarus and Russia may remain at the "broken trough" if we continue to consider the people of the Republic of Belarus separately from the authorities.
      Lukashenko has a level of support in Belarus like Putin has in Russia.
      1. +1
        21 February 2020 21: 53
        Does the financial and material support of the Kremlin for Lukashenko and the Belarusian people matter or does the Belarusian people not know about this support?
  29. +2
    21 February 2020 15: 15
    Sevyarynets himself is not aiming for the presidency, obviously this is the State Department's preparation. This is a proven and well-thought-out technology, and it has every chance of being implemented. A bunch of NGOs were created in advance, some acted openly, some were engaged in "domestic cats", but at the right time they will all sing what they need. Surely in the government there are characters on subsidies and in the same media. Closer to the elections, more figures will come out, plus several popular people will make statements, there will be a provocation to arouse hatred among the population towards the authorities and voila, off we go. From a marginal he will turn into a principled figure, for whom the people will go and vote against Lukashenka. well, and then A la Biden on a visit, the replacement of the police with the Nazis and the floor of the former KGB - for the CIA. And the people are powerless here - this is technology. The people will only have to come out against, because otherwise Sevyarynets will be dragged through even with small voices.
    1. +1
      21 February 2020 23: 05
      What nonsense! Have you ever been to Belarus, "resident of the Urals"? If some Minsk "character" "in power" took and from the morning "hangover" switched to subsidies from Washington, the local KGB would have hidden him long before sunset. And this is even if there was no order for him to disappear ... Old Man and his people control everyone, including each other. Without his permission, you won't even be able to hiccup here. You are a dreamer, my friend! You should write novels ...
  30. 0
    21 February 2020 16: 00
    Yes, the initial alignment reminds Ukraine of the end of 2013. It is interesting how the crucial issue for Belarus and Belarusians will be solved and how Lukashenko, officials and people will behave.
  31. +1
    21 February 2020 21: 27
    Quote: Lamata
    Well, like an officer of the Republic of Belarus (Republic of Belarus), but if the Latin alphabet is introduced !! Kazakhs entered from, such pearls are issued))) I have seen the word house, in Kazakh, I have already seen 4 different spellings, written in Cyrillic, I saw the coolest in Latin in quyi.

    So, if you in Russia think that there was no language in Belarus, then answer me the question, what language did my grandfather and great-grandfather speak? Second, and who gave you the right to determine / allow what language to speak and to whom?
    Observing from the side, a moment emerges that in Russia you know better how to tell us, how to think ... but if you are so smart ... then why don't you go in formation and don't wear tel niki? ... "Why you peep about Chubais, pension reform, etc., etc. ...?
    And last, did you come to us in Belarus or are you in the Urals?
    1. +1
      21 February 2020 21: 55
      Quote: Skalendarka
      So, if you in Russia think that there were no movs in Belarus,

      So it is. There was Mova, and it was ON (Grand Duchy of Lithuania), which included Tver and Smolensk, whose letters were not written in Lithuanian.
  32. 0
    22 February 2020 00: 23
    In Belarus, there is no change in Lukoshenko, those who are now eager for power have no idea where to lead the country. They will dismiss Lukoshenko, the Maidan will begin.
    1. 0
      22 February 2020 00: 43
      For the "Maidan" (banned in the Russian Federation), two necessary conditions are needed: 1) the US Embassy, ​​2) about 10000 frostbitten militants.
  33. +1
    22 February 2020 09: 28
    Quote: Sirocco
    Gentlemen, how to write and speak correctly, Belarus, or Belarus? Someone I don’t understand how to write the Belarusian partisan, or the Belarusian partisan. something smells like Ukrainian grammar, like NA or B)))))) Yeah, deja vu is now some kind of Baltic regiment for earnings in the EU, competitors from the BSSR will be added (for now I will write like that)))))

    ... the main thing is not to put it in the oven.
    BELARUS
  34. +1
    24 February 2020 21: 45
    "The opposition goes into battle."
    Too much said. It’s like with a sapper blade on a tank.
    Sevyarynets is a long-established character. Appears before the election as a counterweight to the current government. I remember him from past ballots in the presidential election.
    Belarus is a small country. Six regions and fewer people than in Moscow. Every unevenly breathing "oppositionist" is registered with the KGB. It's like a dog on a leash, the leash is lengthened - barking.
    When the people rebelled against the law on parasites, there were more autosacks on the streets of Minsk than the protesters themselves. And this is not an exaggeration, just look at the photos of those times.
    Ukrainian Maidan in Belarus is impossible in principle. AHL will leave its post only according to the Boriso-Yeltsin-Brezhnev scenario, there are no others at all.
    Roman Skomorokhov in his repertoire, superficially crawls on the topic, without going into details. What about planes, what about politics.

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