The United States decided to create a rocket on low enriched uranium as part of the lunar program


US Defense Research Agency DARPA Reveals Funding for a Space Program. This is primarily a program that is associated with the creation of a rocket capable of delivering cargo to the lunar orbit.


So, in the budget for 2021, the DARPA program lays $ 158 million. Part of these funds should go towards the creation of a rocket with a nuclear power plant. In addition, funds will be spent on the creation of new space robots that will serve objects in outer space.

The United States notes that it is necessary to hurry with a nuclear fuel rocket, as “US competitors may be the first to create a rocket that can be used to fly to the Moon and its orbit.

The project is currently designated as DRACO-21 (Demonstrator of a rocket for near-moon operations). The basis for the operation of its engine should be low-enriched uranium (from 5 to 20 percent). It's about uranium U-235.

It is noteworthy that the customer for the creation of the spacecraft are the US Air Force. This automatically means that the United States is about to turn the lunar orbit into a sphere of its military interests.

Even the American portal Breaking Defense writes that this program is actually a cover for the Pentagon’s military ambitions.
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  1. OlezhkaKravchenko 19 February 2020 18: 34 New
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    Well, HOW did they fly to the moon once right now they can’t ??
    1. ugol2 19 February 2020 18: 50 New
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      Do you doubt?
      1. Prisoner 19 February 2020 19: 00 New
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        This is our USSR lunar tractor!
        1. hydrox 19 February 2020 19: 34 New
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          It’s ours, it’s ours, and it’s clear that they’re not going to make its replica, but here’s where they are going to take the low-enriched U-235, if they themselves can’t produce it, they bought it from us earlier (for space power supplies of high-current equipment (according to mine for this, and the bill went to kilograms)).
          So for the engine you need a lot more - where will they get ???
          1. asv363 19 February 2020 19: 54 New
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            Uranium-235 in the United States is supplied by many countries. The leader in deliveries to the world market over the past 5 years has been Kazakhstan.
            1. Chigi 19 February 2020 23: 48 New
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              Kazakhstan is a leader in the supply of uranium ore, the enrichment process in Kazakhstan is not carried out.
            2. Nastia makarova 20 February 2020 07: 42 New
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              Uranium supplies to the USA only Russia
          2. Oleg83 19 February 2020 20: 50 New
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            Quote: hydrox
            It’s ours, it’s ours, and it’s clear that they are not going to make its cue, but this is where they are going to take the low-enriched U-235, if they themselves can’t produce it and previously purchased it from us (for space power supplies of high-current equipment (in my opinion, for this, and the bill went to kilograms)).
            So for the engine you need a lot more - where will they get ???


            There was not uranium, but plutonium. Some were produced by ourselves, some were bought in the Russian Federation, now they are produced
            1. hydrox 19 February 2020 21: 13 New
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              Quote: oleg83
              now they produce it themselves

              Kindly give a link to an article that explicitly states that the Americans themselves produce low-enriched U-235 high purity - someone is fantasizing ...
              Maybe, at the same time, where are uranium enriched in Kazakhstan?
              1. businessv 19 February 2020 21: 25 New
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                Quote: hydrox
                Maybe, at the same time, where are uranium enriched in Kazakhstan?

                It was only mined there in Soviet times, in the Dzhezkazgan region, but it wasn’t enriched, now I don’t know.
              2. asv363 19 February 2020 22: 31 New
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                Natural uranium is mined in Kazakhstan, it is the cheapest to enrich it in Russia, for example, at UECC. For a long time Kazakhstan in the person of NAC Kazatomprom owned 25% of the shares of UEHK, but recently sold them back to TVEL JSC, leaving it with one gold share.

                In addition, the Europeans built the uranium enrichment plants in the USA, in particular, the URENCO company (Great Britain, the Netherlands, and the Federal Republic of Germany in equal shares). Here is a link to their New Mexico candle factory:
                https://www.urenco.com/global-operations/uusa
              3. Oleg83 19 February 2020 23: 16 New
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                Quote: hydrox
                Quote: oleg83
                now they produce it themselves

                Kindly give a link to an article that explicitly states that the Americans themselves produce low-enriched U-235 high purity - someone is fantasizing ...
                Maybe, at the same time, where are uranium enriched in Kazakhstan?


                they themselves produce not uranium, but plutonium, which is used for spacecraft
                1. maidan.izrailovich 20 February 2020 01: 49 New
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                  oleg83 (oleg)
                  they themselves produce not uranium, but plutonium, which is used for spacecraft

                  Uranium is needed in the production of weapons-grade plutonium.
                  https://lektsii.org/5-6682.html
                2. hydrox 20 February 2020 07: 46 New
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                  Please Olezhek, stop flooding, if not in the subject
                  1. Oleg83 20 February 2020 12: 52 New
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                    Quote: hydrox
                    Please Olezhek, stop flooding, if not in the subject


                    Read
                    US resumed production of “scientific” plutonium for space purposes

                    https://ria.ru/20151223/1347418972.html?in=t
                    https://www.gazeta.ru/army/2016/01/12/8016707.shtml
                    https://www.astronews.ru/cgi-bin/mng.cgi?page=news&news=8066
                    1. hydrox 20 February 2020 16: 31 New
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                      I will not call names, but what does the "energy" Pu238 have to do with the "engine" U235 on the subject of nuclear engines?
              4. Vol4ara 20 February 2020 09: 30 New
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                Quote: hydrox
                Quote: oleg83
                now they produce it themselves

                Kindly give a link to an article that explicitly states that the Americans themselves produce low-enriched U-235 high purity - someone is fantasizing ...
                Maybe, at the same time, where are uranium enriched in Kazakhstan?

                Do you think that we also supplied uranium and plutonium for atomic bombs? Now they do not produce, as required - they will begin to produce, they know the technology
                1. maratkoRuEkb 4 March 2020 08: 36 New
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                  technology they lost
                  https://ria.ru/20190121/1549577354.html
                  1. Vol4ara 4 March 2020 10: 01 New
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                    Quote: maratkoRuEkb
                    technology they lost
                    https://ria.ru/20190121/1549577354.html

                    They have not lost anything. If you did not forget they were the first to create an atomic bomb. Now production is economically disadvantageous. When there is a life-threatening situation, they will put it on stream quickly
                    1. maratkoRuEkb 4 March 2020 10: 18 New
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                      Well, how didn’t they lose, thanks, I laughed with you. And then they can fly to the moon at any time because the technology is not lost and can enrich uranium right at any time))
                      1. Vol4ara 4 March 2020 10: 25 New
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                        Quote: maratkoRuEkb
                        Well, how didn’t they lose, thanks, I laughed with you. And then they can fly to the moon at any time because the technology is not lost and can enrich uranium right at any time))

                        No, not in any, but when it will be either economically feasible or when it will be vital
                      2. maratkoRuEkb 4 March 2020 11: 45 New
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                        in a short time it is impossible to restore such an industry, which means that when the moment comes for that very “vital necessity” then they will have nothing. If since the 90s they have not financed their production and R&D, then the gap is 20-30 years. They can’t catch up.
                      3. Vol4ara 4 March 2020 12: 03 New
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                        Quote: maratkoRuEkb
                        in a short time it is impossible to restore such an industry, which means that when the moment comes for that very “vital necessity” then they will have nothing. If since the 90s they have not financed their production and R&D, then the gap is 20-30 years. They can’t catch up.

                        First of all, you do not know that with production, it is most likely frozen, the machines are in stock. If part of the machines is lost - hello cnc machines, you just create the lost in a short time, they, unlike us, do not need Simenovsky turbines, they produce almost everything themselves, and what they do not produce, because the allies are clearly bigger than Belarus with Syria and Serbia. The technology is lost when the atomic bomb fell on you, all the plants with the blueprints burned down, the employees died, and only you had the same technology, or when your country fell apart and the critical production went not to you, but to the countries that were in your composition, but now they are your enemies. And when you just turned production it is not lost. When you take the pump out of the barrel and put it in the shed, this does not mean that you have lost the watering technology for cucumbers, it means that winter has come and you do not need it, when it comes to the news, you put it back in the barrel, read the instructions for mb. And you don’t have to catch up with anyone, plutonium will not become better with the new technology, if you learned how to mine it, then it will not be difficult to repeat, and they are not so dumb to deprive yourself of nuclear weapons
                      4. maratkoRuEkb 4 March 2020 13: 18 New
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                        you just don’t know what happened to them, many years have passed and that equipment is already scrap. Hi, CNC machines ... and what will they produce on them? Centrifuges 20 years ago? Do you think it's so easy to find components 20 years ago? all supply chains of suppliers have already been lost, who will supply them with what they need? yes no one. Replace part of the components with a modern element base? this is a lot of time, consider it a full-fledged R&D.
                        And you are mistaken in saying that they produce almost everything themselves, you wanted to say they transferred almost all production to China! And as for the employees, do you apparently think that they have a bunch of engineers in their free time sitting and studying books on nuclear equipment? They do not have competent people for such work, it’s not for you to look at the YouTube video and voila you are an engineer.
                        Your words “And don’t have to catch up with anyone” say everything about you - I see here, I don’t see here because I don’t hachu, bubu. And your reluctance to see the obvious will not change reality ... they lagged behind us and their entire branch of production has been destroyed, because it is uncompetitive, the market has decided, it’s such capitalism ...
                      5. Vol4ara 4 March 2020 17: 09 New
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                        Quote: maratkoRuEkb
                        you just don’t know what happened to them, many years have passed and that equipment is already scrap. Hi, CNC machines ... and what will they produce on them? Centrifuges 20 years ago? Do you think it's so easy to find components 20 years ago? all supply chains of suppliers have already been lost, who will supply them with what they need? yes no one. Replace part of the components with a modern element base? this is a lot of time, consider it a full-fledged R&D.
                        And you are mistaken in saying that they produce almost everything themselves, you wanted to say they transferred almost all production to China! And as for the employees, do you apparently think that they have a bunch of engineers in their free time sitting and studying books on nuclear equipment? They do not have competent people for such work, it’s not for you to look at the YouTube video and voila you are an engineer.
                        Your words “And don’t have to catch up with anyone” say everything about you - I see here, I don’t see here because I don’t hachu, bubu. And your reluctance to see the obvious will not change reality ... they lagged behind us and their entire branch of production has been destroyed, because it is uncompetitive, the market has decided, it’s such capitalism ...

                        They developed an atomic bomb in 3 years from 0. They spent all research on the design of the uranium enrichment bomb and on the construction of reactors to produce plutonium and on the construction of plants for the separation of this plutonium from irradiated uranium blocks in 3 years. And now, when everything is ready, they will do it instantly. That you in a fit of patriotism cheers do not notice the obvious things. They lagged behind in the production of fuel moxs, in the processing of spent assemblies and nuclear weapons, in the construction of reactors, but not in the production and enrichment of uranium and plutonium
    2. Chigi 19 February 2020 23: 50 New
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      Several other elements of the periodic table are used for the space industry as power sources.
      Do not touch Uranus and Plutonium anymore.
    3. Nastia makarova 20 February 2020 07: 44 New
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      Uranium is enriched in Russia and delivered to the USA; there are no enrichment facilities in the USA
  2. Victor_B 20 February 2020 04: 40 New
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    Quote: hydrox
    but here is where they are going to take the low-enriched U-235, if they themselves can’t produce it and have previously purchased it from us

    You can familiarize yourself in detail in a wonderful series of articles - the first one is https://crustgroup.livejournal.com/26203.html
    Well, no one will send LOW-ENRICHED uranium-235 into space.
    The higher the enrichment, the less weight! And longer work.
    1. hydrox 20 February 2020 07: 49 New
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      So I’m trying to find out what kind of miracle technology the Miricans are going to hang on our ears !?
  • astepanov 19 February 2020 20: 32 New
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    . What kind of rocket? How does it compare with the megawatt-class nuclear electric propulsion system under development? Our development is designed to work in space and cannot take off from the earth independently - but it has a specific impulse many times greater than that of a nuclear rocket engine. Tests of the engine layout in space are scheduled for this year, but full-scale tests, as always, are impossible due to the lack of infrastructure on Vostochny and probably the lack of a suitable carrier. Are Americans really going to build a rocket in the image of those that were tested in the seventies, or do they want to follow the same path as us? I think that most likely the second: the launch of a rocket on a reactor draft is too dangerous, but does not give noticeable advantages.
  • Roman070280 20 February 2020 09: 48 New
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    The question is not whose he is ..
    The question was - HOW used to fly to the moon once right now they can’t??

    And in the photo there is only evidence that even if now they can’t do something, it doesn’t mean that they could not before ..
  • Letun 19 February 2020 18: 56 New
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    Quote: OlezhkaKravchenko
    Well, HOW did they fly to the moon once right now they can’t ??

    Well, how did the USSR send automatic stations to the moon before and even bring lunar soil? About the lunar rover already posted. Maybe all this is Mosfilm propaganda?
    1. Prisoner 19 February 2020 19: 01 New
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      Lunakhod was analyzes were. Here’s the Amer’s soil from the Moon somehow not that!
      1. Letun 19 February 2020 19: 05 New
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        Quote: Captive
        Lunakhod was analyzes were. Here’s the Amer’s soil from the Moon somehow not that!

        Well, the Americans landing on the moon, no matter how insulting the ignoramus was, was also there. And the point is just that the argument that they say why they cannot now what they once could, he can work both ways. Not?
        1. Prisoner 19 February 2020 19: 12 New
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          For ignoramuses and hangers-on. And so let's repeat. We will launch the rover, and you are astronauts. laughing Weak? So do not blather!
        2. Prisoner 19 February 2020 19: 40 New
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          That alright! Very authoritative and not very stupid people still very much doubt it. Dissuade a giHant of thought! laughing
        3. poquello 19 February 2020 20: 13 New
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          Quote: Letun
          Not?

          not! The moon is red (well, at times), but Marlboro is not written on it!
        4. businessv 19 February 2020 21: 32 New
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          Quote: Letun
          Well, the Americans landing on the moon, no matter how insulting the ignoramus was, was also there.

          Why get personal, colleague ?! It is not a matter of “ignoramuses”, but of doubts about this action, which the whales themselves sowed in the first place, having released the corresponding film! https://www.1tv.ru/news/2003-11-29/248424-film_o_vysadke_amerikanskih_astronavtov_na_lunu_snimalsya_na_zemle
        5. Roman070280 20 February 2020 09: 51 New
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          It comes down to giraffes ..))
      2. Gray-haired Zinnik 19 February 2020 19: 11 New
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        There is lunar soil and it is available for research, there are about 460 kg. Google. Astronomer Vladimir Surdin talked about this.
        1. Prisoner 19 February 2020 19: 36 New
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          Ask for analysis. Learn a lot of interesting things. Although you ask yourself. laughing
        2. Thrifty 19 February 2020 19: 50 New
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          Gray-haired Zinnik is half a ton of soil that the USA then “lost, because it was terrestrial soil sterilized by roasting?”
        3. pl675 19 February 2020 21: 28 New
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          Quote: Gray-haired Zinnik
          There is lunar soil and it is available for research, there are about 460 kg. Google. Astronomer Vladimir Surdin talked about this.


          where is he???
          1. Victor_B 20 February 2020 04: 26 New
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            Quote: pl675
            where is he???

            Well, supposedly, kept. No one is shown and no one is admitted.
            Why now secret it, when they soon gathered again on the moon?
            So they themselves do not know.
            Only oil is added to the fire of unbelief.
            Maybe in order to attract attention, otherwise they would have forgotten about these flights.
            1. pl675 20 February 2020 11: 55 New
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              Quote: Victor_B
              Quote: pl675
              where is he???

              Well, supposedly, kept. No one is shown and no one is admitted.
              Why now secret it, when they soon gathered again on the moon?
              So they themselves do not know.
              Only oil is added to the fire of unbelief.
              Maybe in order to attract attention, otherwise they would have forgotten about these flights.


              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IfVzbDfuesE
              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sqnI2Y6neo

              Uncle Jura, I believe more than myself, my father’s friend and ally.
          2. Roman070280 20 February 2020 09: 57 New
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            Actually, it was distributed to many states .. including the USSR ..

            Today's blog guest: Sergei Kud-Sverchkov (che3000), a test cosmonaut-test cosmonaut of the Roscosmos. He maintains his blog, in which he talks about the daily life of Russian cosmonauts, and how he is preparing for his first flight. Among other things, he told how he visited the Lunar Samples Laboratory, the place where the lunar soil mined during the Apollo program, is stored on a business trip to the USA. The topic of lunar soil often pops up in discussions of the lunar program. Some have a misconceptionthat all the soil has disappeared or that all samples are classified and are not shown to anyone. Sergey’s photo report demonstrates that this is precisely a fallacy.
            ________________________________________

            Lunar Samples Laboratory

            Today we, Oleg Skrypochka and me, had an amazing opportunity to get into the lunar soil storage, located on the territory of the Space Center named after Johnson.


            MOSCOW, Dec 11 - RIA News. Samples of lunar soil, which the Americans delivered to the Earth during the manned space flight program to the Apollo Moon in 1961-1972, cannot be faked, director of the Institute of Geochemistry and Analytical Chemistry of the Russian Academy of Sciences Yuri Kostitsyn told RIA Novosti.
            The United States in 1961 adopted the Apollo manned space mission program for the first manned moon landing. As part of the program, seven missions were sent to the moon from 1961 to 1972, one of which was unsuccessful. The program ended in 1975, the Americans delivered 300 kilograms of lunar soil to Earth.
            Moon and plane at sunset
            11 December 2018, 09: 43
            The RAS talked about the unique features of the lunar soil
            "It is impossible to fake the lunar soil. For seven lunar missions, the Americans brought about 300 kilograms of soil to the Earth, mainly basalt. It was studied in laboratories by scientists from different countries - Germany, France, the USSR. There are also basalts on Earth, but in chemical composition, properties, structure, they differ significantly from the lunar one. There are no rocks older than 3,7 billion years on Earth, and the Americans brought in a substance whose age is more than four billion years, which is very close to the age of the solar system, "said Kostitsyn.
            He noted that the Americans brought to Earth including regolith, which is not on our planet.
        4. Nyrobsky 19 February 2020 22: 18 New
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          Quote: Gray-haired Zinnik
          There is lunar soil and it is available for research, there are about 460 kg.

          There it is, but impurities of terrestrial origin were found in it. Probably these impurities on the heels of American astronauts on the lunar surface dragged. Do not forget that a lie is part of American official politics, and most of it.
          1. Roman070280 20 February 2020 09: 57 New
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            impurities of terrestrial origin were discovered.

            On what instrument did the analysis produce ??
            1. Nyrobsky 20 February 2020 10: 01 New
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              Quote: Roman070280
              impurities of terrestrial origin were discovered.

              On what instrument did the analysis produce ??

              Mattress-centered Hochloanalyzer
      3. Roman070280 20 February 2020 09: 52 New
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        Amerovsky soil from the moon somehow wrong!

        Didn’t you taste it ??) So he didn’t have to eat ..
    2. fk7777777 19 February 2020 22: 09 New
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      Yeah, in our childhood, in the academic campus, about 400 kg of this lunar "propaganda" was, and remains ...
  • spirit 19 February 2020 21: 24 New
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    Just as the USSR made a snowstorm, and now it is dumb hi
    1. fk7777777 19 February 2020 22: 12 New
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      The brown man didn’t fly to the moon, don’t need la, la, we only used Tu, but locally on Liaise))) ... Well, at least teach the materiel, yo, mai ...
  • Victor_B 19 February 2020 18: 35 New
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    Many have written that we have this engine for a long time.
    Since Soviet times.
    1. Blackmokona 19 February 2020 18: 46 New
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      We had such an engine as it was in the USA.
      Only there was
      1. Prisoner 19 February 2020 19: 02 New
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        They had Hollywood!
        1. Klingon 19 February 2020 19: 24 New
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          that is, do you think that the Japanese AMS photographed the landing sites and the astronaut’s footprints are all computer animation?
          1. Prisoner 19 February 2020 19: 32 New
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            Japanese? !!! laughing laughing You won’t believe it, but yes! That's when our photos and admit it, I believe!
            1. Klingon 19 February 2020 19: 35 New
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              but ours have something to photograph the lunar surface? or suggest using the Rogozin trampoline ?? laughing
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                Quote: Klingon
                but ours have something to photograph the lunar surface? or suggest using the Rogozin trampoline ?? laughing

                ours has everything except money
              2. Prisoner 19 February 2020 20: 37 New
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                I don’t know yours. Our take a picture.
                1. Evgeny Goncharov (smoogg) 20 February 2020 01: 29 New
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                  Has Central Asia Gathered to the Moon?
          2. Gray brother 19 February 2020 19: 34 New
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            Quote: Klingon
            that is, do you think that the Japanese AMS photographed the landing sites and the astronaut’s footprints are all computer animation?

            Only the pictures were published for some reason by NASA.
            1. Evgeny Goncharov (smoogg) 20 February 2020 01: 31 New
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              NASA published pictures taken by LRO - this is her mission.
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            Photos were traces of rovers. And it could be moon rovers like ours. At that time, the United States could land unmanned modules with VCRs and transmitters on the moon, and then the landing modules could start nowhere.
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        Even the movie remained
      3. businessv 19 February 2020 21: 34 New
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        Quote: BlackMokona
        We had such an engine as it was in the USA.
        Only there was

        I don’t understand why in the past tense? KR Petrel.
        1. Blackmokona 19 February 2020 22: 24 New
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          A petrel is a direct flow source, it is not suitable for a vacuum
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            Quote: BlackMokona
            A petrel is a direct flow source, it is not suitable for a vacuum

            An engine like the Petrel is harder to create because it has no radioactive emissions! For space, back in 1965 they began to create and created!
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              Actually, there are many, he’s a direct-flow tank. Passes air through the reactor to heat it and throws it out through the nozzle
              Well, the engine as on the Petrels was made in the USA by the Pluto project
              1. businessv 20 February 2020 21: 45 New
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                Quote: BlackMokona
                Actually, there are many, he’s a direct-flow tank.

                Of course there is a direct-flow tank, but it has been tested more than once that they do not deny the minke whales, while no atmospheric pollution has been detected from the word at all! Air-jet straight-through.
                1. Blackmokona 20 February 2020 22: 38 New
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                  Actually discovered.
                  And even ours let slip, our Roshydromet seem to have forgotten to tell about the tests. Although at the same time, all other bodies and the media beat themselves in the chest and screamed that there was no pollution and blamed everyone around. From Ukraine to Kazakhstan.
                  Official Russian state website
                  3. From September 25 to October 1, an excess of total beta activity in samples of radioactive aerosols and fallouts was recorded by all posts located in the Southern Urals. A radioisotope Ru-106 (half-life of 368,2 days) was detected in samples of radioactive aerosols from observation points Argayash and Novogorny. The concentration of Ru-106 on these aerosol samples was - n * 10-2 Bq / m3

                  On September 26-27, the decay products of Ru-106 were recorded in the Republic of Tatarstan.

                  On September 27-28, high pollution of aerosol samples and precipitation was recorded in Volgograd and Rostov-on-Don.

                  September 29 to October 3, Ru-106 is fixed by all European countries, starting from Italy and further to the north of Europe. The concentration of Ru-106 in Europe is n * 10-3 Bq / m3.

                  http://www.meteorf.ru/product/infomaterials/91/15078/?sphrase_id=134576
                  1. businessv 21 February 2020 17: 29 New
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                    Quote: BlackMokona
                    Actually discovered.
                    And even ours let slip, our Roshydromet seem to have forgotten to tell about the tests.

                    A colleague, this is Ruthenium 106, so this is definitely not a Petrel, whose last trials were unsuccessful
                    “Recall, on August 8, an explosion shrouded in secrets and radiation at a military base in Russia. Rosatom reported five dead
                    an explosion occurred on the territory of the landfill in the Arkhangelsk region of Russia, at least seven people died as a result of the accident, and soon an increased radioactive background was noticed in the region. Read more here: https://tsn.ua/en/svit/vse-pyat-ispytaniy-rossiyskoy-krylatoy-rakety-burevestnik-zavershilis-provalom-cnbc-1409787.html "This is CNBC data, so a more picky judge and come up with hard.
                    1. Blackmokona 21 February 2020 18: 00 New
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                      Well, according to the United States, then all the tests of the Petrel ended in failure and there were more than one. Therefore, the explosion, and Ruthenium, and that didn’t ring anything into Europe. Plus there are always prototype tests, and other things without using a nuclear reactor
    2. Nikolai Miracles 19 February 2020 19: 10 New
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      That's right. I give a link to the website of KB Himavtomatika (Voronezh)
      http://www.kbkha.ru/?p=8&cat=11&prod=66#
      1. dauria 19 February 2020 20: 14 New
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        I give a link to the website of KB Himavtomatika

        Thank you ... Only it turns out from the Earth, he will not raise himself. Without a working fluid, 2 tons of weight with a thrust of 3, 5 tons. Unless from the moon. In specific impulse, it is only 2 times better than oxygen-hydrogen.
        For acceleration and maneuver in the void - yes, excellent. But only 10 starts with a total resource of 1 hour.
        In short, do not fly from Earth on such a rocket. Yes, and Greta will gobble up alive, hydrogen already gets into the atmosphere radioactive.
        Damn, even anger rolled - maybe once, they stomped ahead of the planet, were looking for something.
        1. hydrox 19 February 2020 21: 22 New
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          Yes, and Greta will gobble up alive, hydrogen already gets into the atmosphere radioactive.

          Yes, drop it! How does a girl who does not want to learn know something about spent hydrogen, and even radioactive? belay
      2. dauria 19 February 2020 23: 35 New
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        Hell, there they have it on the site, here's a fairy tale with cartoons about Zircon, forward flow and hypersound .... 22 years ago!

        Scramjet 58L. Axisymmetric hypersonic ramjet engine.

        In February 1998, at the TsIAM stand, 2 fire tests of the camera were carried out. 12.02.98/XNUMX/XNUMX, flight test was successfully conducted engine (as part of the hypersonic flying laboratory "Cold"), at which for the first time in the world the speed of Mach 6,35 was reached. The engine lasted 77 seconds. In the combustion chamber, the combustion of hydrogen occurred in a supersonic flow.

    3. Prisoner 19 February 2020 19: 37 New
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      Where did the pin-dovsky go? What delivered your vis-a-vis to the moon ?!
    4. fk7777777 19 February 2020 22: 15 New
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      Steam has been around for a long time, by the way, nuclear power plants, in principle, the same steam, only new physical principles, nothing changes, only the principles change ... And since the steam turned the propeller, it does ...
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      1. Errr 20 February 2020 09: 12 New
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        On YouTube, there is an informative 1968 film on the topic of NERVA (Nuclear Engine for Rocket Vehicle Application).Hollywood, of course, helped the Los Alamos Laboratory and their accomplices create this film, but as if comprehending the nuances of the American version of English, our brother could not transfer from kvass to Coca-Cola? lol
  • Kerensky 19 February 2020 18: 45 New
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    in the budget for 2021 in the DARPA program lays 158 млн dollars. Part of these funds should go on to create a rocket with a nuclear power plant.

    Yes, there’s nothing to master! With such a budget, you won’t buy a model from the Chinese!
    1. orionvitt 19 February 2020 20: 21 New
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      Yes, there’s nothing to master! With such a budget, you won’t buy a model from the Chinese!

      Right. Americans, for such programs, with a budget of less than a billion, will not undertake. And for 158 million, they’ll construct, except for the "lunar hammer", to work in a vacuum. True stainless steel. laughing
  • vvvjak 19 February 2020 18: 51 New
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    Kapets. A part of 158 mil. $ To spend on an engine for the USA !!! Yes, it’s just for pencils for designers and that’s not enough.
    1. knn54 19 February 2020 20: 25 New
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      And what does Comrade Rogozin think on this issue?
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        Quote: knn54
        And what does Comrade Rogozin think on this issue?


        and here we are driving a megawatt plasmatron laughing



        During the tests, a modernized design of the main components of the plasma torch was used, which provides a long service life when working on chemically active gases, which reduces the time of maintenance and replacement of wearing parts, as well as their cost.
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          Well done, you too +))
  • sergo1914 19 February 2020 18: 54 New
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    The basis for the operation of its engine should be low enriched uranium


    Greta will not approve.
    1. Prisoner 19 February 2020 19: 08 New
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      Let her dance, a fool not trained!
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        Let her dance, a fool not trained!

        You shouldn’t be so. Greta "this is our everything." Now, people like her in the west indicate what to develop and what to build. laughing As they say, the flag is in their hands.
    2. fk7777777 19 February 2020 22: 17 New
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      Greff, Gretta, and the family ...
  • Prisoner 19 February 2020 19: 07 New
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    It is more and more difficult for mattresses to somehow confirm their voyage to the moon. For the time after the first voyage, it was possible to organize scheduled flights.
  • Dargavs 19 February 2020 19: 16 New
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    Part of these funds should go towards the creation of a rocket with a nuclear power plant.
    What a blizzard? It then means "Petrel", time, and can jump out into space? And then drop back, and then once to the moon?
    1. Gray brother 19 February 2020 19: 26 New
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      Quote: DargAVS
      What a blizzard? It then means "Petrel", time, and can jump out into space?

      No, it can’t, because he has a direct-flow air duct, but in the atmosphere of Jupiter he would have a ride.
      The rocket does not heat the incoming air, but the working fluid.
      1. orionvitt 19 February 2020 20: 28 New
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        Quote: Gray Brother
        The rocket does not heat the incoming air, but the working fluid

        Air in this case, air is the working fluid. Only a rocket is forced to carry it (working body).
  • Andrey.AN 19 February 2020 19: 42 New
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    This is a lie, low enriched uranium, one that is prone to a nuclear reaction, it is uranium 235 that assimilates delayed neutrons for fission, in order to slow down these neutrons it is necessary to add a moderator, on satellites there will be plutonium 239, working from what is, without a moderator. So that the moderator does not interfere with the cooling of the reactor, you need a large radiator, this is not for space. Although I repent, they can use another reactor, very heavy. This is a subjective opinion.
    1. fk7777777 19 February 2020 22: 19 New
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      Is it really warm in space ?, it seems like a very strong minus centigrade
      1. Gray brother 19 February 2020 23: 27 New
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        Quote: fk7777777
        Is it really warm in space ?, it seems like a very strong minus centigrade

        There are different ways. There, objects either receive radiation and heat up, or radiate themselves and cool.
        In order to cool properly, you need to interact with something that will take heat - the vacuum is not suitable for this because there is no horseradish in it.
        Therefore, objects in a vacuum heat up well and cool poorly.
        1. Errr 20 February 2020 14: 28 New
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          Quote: Gray Brother
          ... objects in a vacuum heat up well and cool poorly.
          Even in near-Earth orbit (not in deep space), objects are much more likely to cool off than to heat up. If this topic is really interesting to you, you can familiarize yourself with it in more detail using the example of the temperature control system of the Soviet orbital station Salyut-6 at https://engineering-ru.livejournal.com/310096.html.
          1. Gray brother 20 February 2020 22: 36 New
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            Quote: Herrr
            objects are much more likely to cool than to heat up.

            Depending on which objects, the working fuel assembly of the FIGS cools down because it generates more heat than it emits, one has to be smart with cooling.
            Brick, on the contrary, does not produce any heat, and it has no choice but to cool down. (unless of course the sun warms up to plus one hundred and sixty).
            1. Errr 21 February 2020 04: 20 New
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              Salute-6 really had to be heated, it did not have enough heat from the sun.
              And about the fact that the stove is hot so far in the firebox and the stove, all rural schoolchildren in the course have not burned out. smile
              1. Gray brother 21 February 2020 09: 17 New
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                Quote: Herrr
                that the stove is hot while all the rural schoolchildren in the course burned out in the firebox and the stove did not burn out.

                If the stove is in vacuum, then it will cool longer than if it were immersed in a substance with a temperature of -270 ° C, although it seems that the temperature is close to absolute zero both, but there are no molecules in the vacuum with which the stove will interact transferring them its thermal energy.
                Quote: Herrr
                Salute-6 really had to be heated,

                In the article that you cited, we are talking about temperature-sensitive devices located on the shadow side, their sun did not warm.
                1. Errr 21 February 2020 09: 56 New
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                  Quote: Gray Brother
                  ... however, in a vacuum there are no molecules with which the stove will interact transferring its thermal energy to them.
                  You are trying to consider convection, which in the absence of gravity simply does not exist. If you carefully read the article we are considering about the Salyut-6 temperature control system, it is easy to notice that:
                  Excess heat is transferred in the liquid-liquid heat exchanger to the external circuit and is "dumped" into space from the radiation surface.
                  Those. in the absence of convection, even almost in a vacuum, it is possible to discharge excess heat using elementary radiation from a radiator in the infrared range.
                  Next you write:
                  Quote: Gray Brother
                  In the article that you cited, we are talking about temperature-sensitive devices located on the shadow side, their sun did not warm.
                  I don’t know where in this article you found this, but I didn’t mean this at all, but that:
                  When there is no crew at the station and its equipment produces little heat, the air temperature in the pressurized compartment decreases. In order for it not to fall below the permissible limit, an electric heater is provided as part of the thermal control system
                  Do you think this electric heater would be needed if there was enough external heating from the Sun? Personally, I think that it would be possible to dispense with the elementary transfer of heat from the overheated side to the supercooled elementary circulation of the coolant in the temperature control system. This is just mentioned in the text of the article:
                  The heat carrier of the heating circuit also circulates along the walls of the station (9), heating the cooled and cooled parts of them, or, in other words, equalizing their temperatures.
                  1. Gray brother 21 February 2020 10: 20 New
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                    Quote: Herrr
                    Do you think this electric heater would be needed if there was enough external heating from the Sun?

                    Well, since the station is not always on the sunny side, there is no external heating in the shadow.
                    1. Errr 21 February 2020 13: 06 New
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                      That's right. I'm exactly the same. With a period of his (Salute-6) circulation of less than 90 minutes in the shade, he periodically was no more than 45 minutes. The case of the working (main) compartment of this station (as well as its entire transition compartment, together with the equipment installed on its surface) was closed by screen-vacuum thermal insulation, and the zone of its larger diameter was also covered with a fiberglass casing. Therefore, to maintain the normal operating temperature of the station, a high-power heater was not required.
    2. Gray brother 19 February 2020 23: 12 New
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      Quote: Andrey.AN
      So that the moderator does not interfere with the cooling of the reactor, you need a large radiator, this is not for space.

      If the reactor heats the liquefied gas, then this gas cools it.
  • Vasyan1971 19 February 2020 19: 44 New
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    ... US competitors may be the first to create a rocket that can be used to fly to the moon and its orbit.

    Wobbler! "Who is the first" is so important? As for me, it’s really important to create and seamlessly use for the benefit of your country. Some childishness: "I am the first, no I am the first!".
  • Proton 19 February 2020 19: 45 New
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    A vigorous engine, it’s good of course, and it will start from the Earth as it will laughing on a trampoline or again on our RD-180
    1. Blackmokona 19 February 2020 19: 56 New
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      On Falcons for example
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      Quote: Proton
      or again on our rd-180


      Ah, in another Atlas-5 verticalize with the engine number 102T

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  • Dargavs 19 February 2020 20: 01 New
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    Quote: Gray Brother
    The rocket does not heat the incoming air, but the working fluid.

    That is why this statement is “snowstorm”.
    1. fk7777777 19 February 2020 22: 22 New
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      Yes, I also don’t understand where the air comes from in a complete vacuum? ...
  • Prjanik 19 February 2020 20: 04 New
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    And anything heard about the cooling system for our nuclear power plants?
  • Russian_man 19 February 2020 20: 16 New
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    Conventional engines they have are bad - they do not pull, break, burn - they fly on our RD-180, but the American space program, according to the version of the world's shit media, is much cooler than the Russian one. Now they suddenly started to make nuclear engines, and everything was so cool there that they were already going to Mars) ...
    ... One thing is certain for sure - either again they will get rid of the strain sooner or .... our "patriotic" Putinists decided to resell in the end the more expensive advanced research and test results in the field of ... flights to Mars) ...
    1. ultra 19 February 2020 20: 59 New
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      there is no Russian yet, it’s Soviet.
      1. Lord of the Sith 19 February 2020 21: 45 New
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        Apart from the appearance, there is almost nothing Soviet there.
        Although, on the other hand, what's wrong with the Soviet backlog? For ten years the Yankees themselves have not flown, but this does not prevent them from pompously believing that they have the best space program in the world.
  • Lekz 19 February 2020 20: 47 New
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    It seems that the Yankees poured out another bullet for us. Or twist with the appointment. The design of the carrier with nuclear power plants was carried out in our country back in the 60s. So far, prospects for the use of nuclear power plants are not visible.
  • iouris 19 February 2020 22: 21 New
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    Trump: "This is sooooo fast and sooo environmentally friendly rocket: five, seven times and even faster and more environmentally friendly. The Russians were the first to create such missiles because they learned about Obama's plans. Obama told them himself."
  • Chigi 20 February 2020 00: 03 New
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    Guys, I can’t read most of the posts without laughing.
    Today is not Friday, why so much misinformation?
    Nuclear power plants are my specialty. And I know what I'm talking about
    1. Russian_man 20 February 2020 01: 46 New
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      ))))) so it is necessary)))) to you +))
  • Klingon 20 February 2020 04: 07 New
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    Quote: poquello
    Quote: Klingon
    but ours have something to photograph the lunar surface? or suggest using the Rogozin trampoline ?? laughing

    ours has everything except money

    money by the way, Ros (Gozin) has space. so it’s not in them but in those who saw them
    1. Klingon 20 February 2020 12: 30 New
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      hey minusers, you want to say that there is no monstrous dough cut in Roscosmosp? you at least do not lie to yourself how much what Roscosmos launched Not Soviet hurt ??
      maybe they can build a skyscraper in the form of a rocket and rename a nonexistent ship
      1. slipped 20 February 2020 13: 11 New
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        Quote: Klingon
        how much is Roskosmos запустил Not a Soviet hurt ??


        Many things. Let's take, for example, last year:

        1. Into orbit running and successfully launched a new space platform for Earth remote sensing, manufactured by RSC Energia - the EgyptSat-A satellite. The satellite was launched at the MTR with a height of 668 km.
        2. Into orbit to the standing point L2 beyond the orbit of the moon running new astrophysical observatory "Spectrum-RG". The observatory is scanning the celestial sphere. As a platform for telescopes, the new Navigator platform, developed by the Lavochkin NPO, is used.
        3. Into geostationary orbit is running and the latest Russian Blagovest heavy communication satellite, No. 14L, was successfully launched, thereby completing the deployment of a military communications group of 4 spacecraft. The satellite was built on the Russian leaky platform Express-2000 with a 15-year period of active existence.
        4. Into orbit is running and successfully launched a new geodesic satellite, Geo-IK-2 No. 3, for topographic survey of the earth's surface.
        5. Into geostationary orbit is running and successfully launched the new hydrometeorological satellite "Electro-L" No. 3. The satellite was created on the Navigator space platform with a 10-year active life.

        Space platforms "MisrSat A", "Navigator" and "Express-2000" are designed and built at the enterprises of Roscosmos. The USSR, in principle, did NOT HAVE. Clear?
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          * into orbit, into orbit ... * and beyond the orbit, nothing can fly away. Where are the promised Venus-D, where is the lunar rover, where is the lunar station of 2024? phobos-soil and he screwed up. conclusion AMS can no longer build. NASA, Samurai and ESA purged this industry
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            Quote: Klingon
            * into orbit, into orbit ... * and beyond the orbit, nothing can fly away.


            Where do you get all these probiotic ?! laughing

            Any spacecraft moves in space ORBIT. Here the cross indicates the location of the Spektr-RG spacecraft at the current moment. He has been there for the third month in parking orbit and works great.



            Quote: Klingon
            Where are the promised Venus-D,


            Venera-D is absent from the current federal space program until 2025. Today there is only a joint group of scientists from different countries who are working on this project. Its implementation is possible only by the end of the current decade.

            Quote: Klingon
            where is the lunar rover, where is the lunar station of 2024?


            The lunar rover is planned at the Luna-29 AMC in the next FKP, in the current two landing stations on the Luna - Luna-25 and Luna-27 with a drilling installation.
            1. Klingon 20 February 2020 21: 45 New
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              I am aware of Newtonian mechanics
              so leave pictures for five-claws. Parking or what but this is the orbit of the earth, not Mars and not Saturn. say Gop when you jump over, but for the time being one conversation is planned.
              I'm sorry. there is no trust in Rogozinsky Roskosmos, no trust in Chubais Rosnos. The problem is those who are at the helm and these people are not in their places, one is just a journalist, he would write articles about space, the second is just a huckster
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                Quote: Klingon
                so leave pictures for five-claws.


                Duc, just for you, five-graders and drawn. lol But apparently does not reach.

                Quote: Klingon
                Parking lot or what but this is the orbit of the earth,


                Just confirm that before astronomy you still have to grow and grow laughing

                The Lagrange point is a libration point - a region of outer space in a system of two massive bodies in which a third body with a negligible mass, in this case, the Spektr-RG spacecraft, is not affected by any forces other than gravitational from the side of the first two bodies , can remain motionless concerning these bodies. This is not the "orbit of the earth", it is deep space. Clear? The spacecraft moves around this point, which is marked with a cross.
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    those. they knew that we can and have a nuclear fuel engine !!! ps I'm talking about intelligence