The Russian Permanent Representative to the UN outlined the conditions for a "Norman meeting"

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The Permanent Representative of the Russian Federation to the UN addressed an extraordinary meeting of the Security Council, convened on February 18 at the initiative of Russia. In his speech, he touched on the question of the advisability of holding a meeting of the "Channel Four".

Nebenzya said that a meeting of representatives of Russia, Ukraine, Germany and France would only make sense if Kiev met the conditions of the Minsk agreements. He noted that Ukraine is constantly trying to replace the terms of the agreements reached in Minsk in 2015 with some other formats, including the “Norman” one. Nebenzya reminded the audience that the “Norman format” was created to support the implementation of the Minsk agreements.



The Permanent Representative of Russia emphasized that the meeting at the UN was convened in order to remind the Ukrainian authorities that the agreements adopted in Minsk are the only hope for peace for the residents of Donbass, so do not try to sabotage them:

Only after their full implementation, Ukraine has a chance to regain the lost trust of the residents of Donbass, which the Ukrainian government overnight made second-class residents, "separatists" and strangers in their own country.
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  1. 0
    19 February 2020 13: 30
    It’s easier to hold a Potsdam type conference with interested parties.
    1. 0
      19 February 2020 13: 32
      This is the winners
      1. 0
        19 February 2020 13: 35
        Quote: Kronos
        This is the winners

        I talked about them. Only Romania should not be allowed.
        1. -8
          19 February 2020 13: 38
          I don’t remember the war that Russia won.
          1. +3
            19 February 2020 13: 41
            Quote: Kronos
            I do not remember

            these are your problems if there is no memory!
            1. -5
              19 February 2020 13: 42
              So which war is won?
              1. +4
                19 February 2020 13: 43
                Quote: Kronos
                So which war is won?

                coercion to the peace of Georgia, this is from close
                1. -7
                  19 February 2020 13: 44
                  It was 12 years ago and only concerned Georgia with Abkhazia on Potsdam does not pull
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          2. 0
            20 February 2020 02: 34
            Kronos
            Yes, you're right ... :))))) Russia did not win any war ..... just quietly ... with white and pink bayonets- fresh holes- (red and black holes later, in a day), losing three wars in a row, demoted the leading European power - Sweden, which plagued half of Europe until it came across a Russian bayonet ...... to a neutral state ....
            Yeah - all those three wars that we took to our fingernails - you probably think we lost? Let's think so - but then it is not clear who landed on the Swedish coast .....
            yeah, apparently, we lost the war again, we were stricken, ..... but the Swedish cannibals, who were by no means better than the Nazis of the 20th century, still sit quietly, afraid of Russian bayonets, is this a historical experience or an academic the result of the thoughts of the battered conqueror? ....
            And the fact that we crumbled them three times as much as we lost our own is also likely to lose ... ours .... yeah, yeah, liberals are allowed everything - and we also lost everything - including the destruction of the great The Turkish Empire, turned the British Empire with 650 million inhabitants into a wretched country with 60 million people ....
            Vilely destroyed the greatest 650 Napoleon’s army, forced Hitler to commit suicide, destroying his Army, assembled from 000 million Europe .....
            Yeah, we lost the fse :)))))
            Is it necessary to repeat the number of Germans taken under arms and compare with ours? :)))) I do not advise... :))))
            Are we not scoundrels? We zhezh all seem to have lost ... you told us everything correctly, right?
            yeah - they can’t lie
            Yeah, that’s what happens - I don’t remember .... what, you, sir, you can’t remember, if you didn’t want to remember anything ... intentionally ...... well, come on, I’ll call you a degenerate, what do you recognize that you intentionally lie .... :))))))
    2. +7
      19 February 2020 13: 33
      Kiev is not going to fulfill the Minsk agreements. Only the brewing of an Ukrainian army in Donetsk boilers will lead to peace.
      1. -1
        19 February 2020 13: 37
        Only the brewing of an Ukrainian army in Donetsk boilers will lead to peace.

        Or a collective peace enforcement event. feel
        1. +3
          19 February 2020 13: 40
          Quote: AlexGa
          Only the brewing of an Ukrainian army in Donetsk boilers will lead to peace.

          Or a collective peace enforcement event. feel

          Russia is fully capable of establishing a no-fly zone over the territory of Ukraine and conducting an operation to force peace. The militia of the ukrovermaht may well be organized by the people's militia of the Donetsk republics.
          1. +8
            19 February 2020 13: 42
            Honestly, talking with my relatives in Ukraine, I understand that its existence within its current borders is impossible, purely in the interests of population groups.
        2. +2
          19 February 2020 14: 00
          Quote: AlexGa
          and a collective peace enforcement event.

          And who should be involved in the "team"? Ze also dreams of attracting the United States, NATO and all "willing" to establish peace
        3. +3
          19 February 2020 16: 01
          Quote: AlexGa
          Or a collective peace enforcement event.

          why collective? Russia will cope on its own
    3. 0
      19 February 2020 17: 34
      All parties are interested in the final destruction of Russia. The guarantor of the Minsk agreement must guarantee the fulfillment of the Minsk agreement by Kiev.
  2. +2
    19 February 2020 13: 30
    The Russian Permanent Representative to the UN outlined the conditions for a "Norman meeting"
    what to designate, if their "Minsk", not a single point was fulfilled?
    1. +4
      19 February 2020 13: 40
      Quote: Aerodrome
      what to designate, if their "Minsk", not a single point was fulfilled?

      To be honest, I have long been waiting for such a statement. Enough to pour empty from empty spaces and make meetings for the sake of meetings at which the president (s) of Ukraine only try to change the Minsk agreements, and they are popularly explained that they must be implemented. And after the meetings, everyone continues to shout in chorus that Russia is not fulfilling the Minsk agreements.
      1. Fat
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        19 February 2020 16: 40
        Quote: Kurare
        Quote: Aerodrome
        what to designate, if their "Minsk", not a single point was fulfilled?

        To be honest, I have long been waiting for such a statement. Enough to pour empty from empty spaces and make meetings for the sake of meetings at which the president (s) of Ukraine only try to change the Minsk agreements, and they are popularly explained that they must be implemented. And after the meetings, everyone continues to shout in chorus that Russia is not fulfilling the Minsk agreements.

        Note. What obligations did Russia make in Minsk? Well, so that everyone knows ....
        And then everyone screams ....
        "But the men don't know" (C)
        1. 0
          19 February 2020 16: 45
          Quote: Thick
          What obligations did Russia make in Minsk? Well, so that everyone knows ....

          This is how Russia talks to its "partners" all the time. Only here, like Krylov:
          You are to blame for the fact that I want to eat
          1. Fat
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            19 February 2020 17: 21
            And who, naturally, as a hungry wolf?
            No Hungry in Norman format
            In addition to the bruises offended at Nuremberg.
            1. 0
              19 February 2020 17: 27
              Quote: Thick
              In addition to the bruises offended at Nuremberg.

              And what, the French in Nuremberg also offended?
              1. Fat
                0
                19 February 2020 17: 40
                Did not make it. The fascists themselves shot the Vishists, after July 20, 44
                1. -1
                  19 February 2020 17: 57
                  When the British General Montgomery saw in the ranks of the victors over Nazi Germany the French General de Gaulle, he exclaimed: "And what, these are also winners?" wink
                  1. Fat
                    +1
                    19 February 2020 18: 06
                    [/ quote] [quote = Kurare] When the British General Montgomery saw in the ranks of the victors over Nazi Germany the French General de Gaulle, he exclaimed: "And what, these are also winners?" wink

                    These are not Montgomery's words! These are Keitel's words ... "Are these the same?"
                    1. 0
                      19 February 2020 18: 12
                      Quote: Thick
                      These are not the words of Montgomery! These are Keitel’s words ...

                      Yes you are right! Mixed up!
                    2. Fat
                      0
                      19 February 2020 18: 15
                      And not in Nuremberg and not in Podsdam. ...
                      On May 8, 1945, on the outskirts of Berlin Karlshorst, at 22 hours 43 minutes CET (May 9 at 0:43 Moscow time), the final Act on the unconditional surrender of Nazi Germany and its armed forces was signed.
                2. Fat
                  0
                  19 February 2020 17: 58
                  Well, he confused until 1951, a fact. How did he live, Marshal of France.
                  Puten.
                3. 0
                  19 February 2020 20: 28
                  Half of the members of the Vichy government, as it later turned out, were associated with the Resistance Movement.)
                  1. Fat
                    -1
                    19 February 2020 23: 01
                    Quote: Sergej1972
                    Half of the members of the Vichy government, as it later turned out, were associated with the Resistance Movement.)

                    A couple of decades, and sleeps that this trash on the beaches and died on the day D.
                    Kissed them for their low loyalty
                    1. Fat
                      -1
                      19 February 2020 23: 07
                      It’s embarrassing to see not a single tree of a traitor on a branch, except Aspen, and aspen after Judah’s stupor
    2. +3
      19 February 2020 13: 57
      Airfield (Airfield)
      what to designate, if their "Minsk", not a single point was fulfilled?

      Have you read the article?
      Especially for you that you did not read.
      Nebenzya stated that a meeting representatives of Russia, Ukraine, Germany and France it will only make sense if Kiev fulfills the conditions of the Minsk agreements.
  3. +1
    19 February 2020 13: 34
    All this is an empty shaking of air. The “partners” are waiting for Ukraine to turn into a kind of Idlib in Syria and to pluck, poisoning Russia. And we all blow on this "abscess", hoping that "it will pass by itself."
    1. -2
      19 February 2020 13: 35
      So turned already
  4. +3
    19 February 2020 13: 37
    - Money in advance, in the morning - money, in the evening - chairs or in the evening - money, and the next day in the morning - chairs.
    - And maybe today - chairs, and tomorrow - money?
    “I, sulking, are a tormented man.” Such conditions the soul does not accept.
    “But I will only receive the money by telegraph tomorrow.”
    - Then we'll talk, but for now, sulking, I will happily stay at the source, and I went: I have a lot of work with the press. Simbievich takes a sip. Forces are not enough. Can you live with one narzan? (Installer Mechnikov).
    1. Fat
      0
      19 February 2020 16: 52
      Quote: Adam Khomich
      - Money in advance, in the morning - money, in the evening - chairs or in the evening - money, and the next day in the morning - chairs.
      - And maybe today - chairs, and tomorrow - money?
      “I, sulking, are a tormented man.” Such conditions the soul does not accept.
      “But I will only receive the money by telegraph tomorrow.”
      - Then we'll talk, but for now, sulking, I will happily stay at the source, and I went: I have a lot of work with the press. Simbievich takes a sip. Forces are not enough. Can you live with one narzan? (Installer Mechnikov).

      Killed! (from a game of students in a sea battle)))))
  5. 0
    19 February 2020 13: 47
    Nebenzya said that a meeting of representatives of Russia, Ukraine, Germany and France would only make sense if Kiev met the conditions of the Minsk agreements.

    All such statements must be worked out to the end. We will see.
  6. +5
    19 February 2020 13: 56
    Nebez has his own front with a real enemy - representatives in the UN of the countries "deeply in love" with Russia. How still there is enough restraint to answer the Anglo-Saxons to groundless accusations, to listen to the Ukrainians, Poles, Balts and at the same time not to call their insolent faces. A man is really on duty every day.
    1. +4
      19 February 2020 15: 09
      rotmistr60 .. There is still enough excerpt to answer the Anglo-Saxons to baseless accusations, to listen to Ukrainians, Poles, Balts and at the same time not to drop into their brazen faces. A man is truly at a combat post daily.

      That's for sure. Here "on the couch" sometimes the nerves give up, read Russophobic nonsense.
      And there really is a combat post of Russia. Therefore, Vitaly Churkin passed away at the age of 65. The kingdom be upon him. The real one was a fighter!
  7. +1
    19 February 2020 14: 21
    This provocation was made by Ukraine, obviously, to shift all responsibility for disrupting the meeting in the Norman format to Russia. All this is tired of the order and will end only when ours is allowed and will help the Donbass militia to slaughter the APU in full, well, it can’t end in any other way and this tyagomotin will last, only people are not forever! And you can’t forgive and forget anything!
  8. +1
    19 February 2020 15: 25
    Maybe the implementation of the Minsk agreements would be worth stimulating with a good fire strike.
    1. +1
      19 February 2020 16: 12
      Quote: Lamata
      Maybe the implementation of the Minsk agreements would be worth stimulating with a good fire strike.

      as the experience of the "Debaltsevskiy boiler" shows, a very effective remedy. Increases the compliance and negotiability of Ukraine.
    2. Fat
      0
      19 February 2020 18: 58
      Quote: Lamata
      Maybe the implementation of the Minsk agreements would be worth stimulating with a good fire strike.

      Where to hit that? and mold and decay are not localized residents go away and burn the infection themselves
      1. -1
        19 February 2020 19: 27
        Andrei Borisovich, and intelligence for what? As a serving art reconnaissance division I ask
        1. Fat
          -1
          19 February 2020 22: 15
          Quote: Lamata
          Andrei Borisovich, and intelligence for what? As a serving art reconnaissance division I ask

          As one who served in the General Staff ZKP, I am not responsible for my mind, it’s the "air" to distribute .. whether I want, whether I want the country said the enemy is there. My place is a trench and an SPS with a reliable companion and a couple of zinc in a duffel bag. I saw a lot through the scope, maybe yours, maybe others. Served the country honestly.
          1. Fat
            -1
            19 February 2020 22: 34
            I will add our unit was imprisoned so that people like you would be less obsessed.
            1. Fat
              -1
              19 February 2020 22: 49
              Experience 85: years shown. We can’t do anything with the DRG. . In 86; finished active service. And cho command decided there. I don’t care ...
  9. +2
    19 February 2020 15: 54
    The only reason for this meeting is that the whole world from the highest rostrum stated that Ukraine is not going to fulfill the Minsk agreements, Russia’s patience and meeting with her will take place only if Ukraine stops playing the fool and starts to fulfill its obligations. If, after this, Ukraine does not come to its senses, then it becomes necessary to decide what to do with it! Yes
    1. Fat
      0
      19 February 2020 17: 03
      Quote: Vladimir Mashkov
      The only reason for this meeting is that the whole world from the highest rostrum stated that Ukraine is not going to fulfill the Minsk agreements, Russia’s patience and meeting with her will take place only if Ukraine stops playing the fool and starts to fulfill its obligations. If, after this, Ukraine does not come to its senses, then it becomes necessary to decide what to do with it! Yes

      And then what to do with it? Ukraine is a long-suffering country
      I agree to share, and you?
  10. +2
    19 February 2020 16: 53
    And today, it turns out, is a holiday.
    1. Fat
      0
      19 February 2020 18: 44
      About how!
      "How to multiply" (C)
      18th birthday mother-in-law
      The kingdom of heaven to her.
      No kidding, the world was a woman ... Not many people have such patience.
  11. +1
    19 February 2020 20: 56
    Minsk two, Minsk two ...
    Minsk At ... Dvaaaaaa.
    Can you smell Bandera ... ???
    ............
    And then they are fingers (s)