Bulgarian President announces readiness to come to Moscow for 75th Victory Day

A telephone conversation took place between President of the Russian Federation Vladimir Putin and Bulgarian leader Rumen Radev. Its initiator was Mr. Radev.

This was reported on the website of the Presidential Administration.

In a conversation, the leaders of the two countries touched upon issues of cooperation between Russia and Bulgaria. They paid special attention to Russian-Bulgarian cooperation in the energy sector.

During a conversation with the Russian leader, Rumen Radev confirmed that he intends to come to Moscow to celebrate the 75th anniversary of the Victory of the USSR in the Great Patriotic War.

Solemn events in honor of Victory Day will be held on May 9, 2020 on Red Square. They will last an hour and a half, that is, longer than usual. Numerous international delegations and heads of many states of the world will arrive to celebrate the 75th anniversary of the Victory. Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi, French President Emmanuel Macron and leaders of the countries of the Shanghai Cooperation Organization have already confirmed their participation in the events. A number of foreign delegations reported that they would not come to Moscow to celebrate the anniversary of the Great Victory.

It is also known that 75 Serbian troops will arrive to participate in the parade on Red Square.

Comments

[mark1]

How did he jump out without asking !? Oh, they will punish you! Oh get the belt!

[Nasrat]

It was not possible to review the results of World War II and is not succeeding - at the moment, although there are countries interested in this. And the Victory Parade is also a reminder of the agreements on the post-war peace arrangement at the 1945 Yalta Conference. Important this holiday and the relevance of the Victory Parade as high as ever.

[vladimirvn]

If they don't like the term "liberated", let it be "occupied". Our country and our people made the greatest contribution to the destruction of fascism. And the fact that the countries of Europe allowed fascism to their territory, willingly or not willingly and submissively, worked for fascism, for this they then received retribution. The USSR redrawn the map of Europe, taking care first of all about its own security. And he did the right thing!

[Fedor egoist]

Bulgarian President announces readiness to come to Moscow for 75th Victory Day

Well, let him come. He was put on a little bench next to the Japanese prime minister, who seemed to be going to the parade too. If Merkel arrives, her there, just the third will be))
And no one else to plant next. Let them know their place.

[krot]

Bulgarian President announces readiness to come to Moscow for 75th Victory Day

Was he doing a favor to us?
Bulgarians-accomplices of Hitler in the Second World War! What other triumphs are they?)))

[Bagatur]

In the case of Bulgaria, it is correct to say "occupation". And so it was ... The USSR declared war, occupied the country and put the Bulgarian communes in power - that's it! I know that this is in Russia and to this day they call it "liberation" ... But it is precisely on this occasion that the difference is clearly marked in Bulgaria, and the monuments of the Red Army will never be treated as monuments of the RI army in the war of 1877-1878!

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: bagatura

In the case of Bulgaria, it is correct to say "occupation".

= In March 1941, Bulgaria joined the Tripartite Pact and granted Germany its territory for the deployment of troops, =
Bulgaria was an ally of Hitler? - It was !!! Was Hitler’s troops in Bulgaria? There were !!! Then what are your grievances? The right friends must be chosen. But the Bulgarians have chosen the wrong friends even today. Then will you be offended again?

[Bagatur]

It is strange when the USSR, along with Hitler Polsch, divided normally. When Bulgaria in an agreement with the same gentleman is bad. By the way, in 1940, our communists, by order of Moscow, insisted on joining the Trilateral Pact .. but you don’t know.

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: bagatura

It is strange when the USSR, along with Hitler Polsch, divided normally.

All your trouble is that you are a story; we read here, we don’t read here, here we wrap a herring. You can not do it this way! History needs to be studied !!!
Hitler and I did not divide Poland! We regained what the Poles took away from us in 1920.
What preceded the conclusion of the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact? Unsuccessful attempts of the USSR to conclude an alliance of the USSR with France and Britain, which was opposed by ... Poland !, directed against Germany. And when France and Britain refused to conclude such an alliance, the USSR had no choice but to conclude a non-aggression pact with Germany. Germany needed such a treaty to defeat France and Britain, and we ...
Stalin, in response to the proposal of the Germans to conclude an agreement, proposed "first to conclude a loan agreement." And the Germans, in need of an agreement, were forced to conclude a loan agreement. According to which the USSR received a loan from Deutsche Bank in 5 billion Reichsmarks. For which he bought equipment for the plants of the tank, aviation, automotive industries, generators for power plants, equipment for the petrochemical industry and much more. It was Stalin's brilliant move. He made Hitler help us arm ourselves!

[pytar]

All your trouble is that you are a story; we read here, we don’t read here, here we wrap a herring. You can not do it this way! History needs to be studied !!! Hitler and I did not divide Poland! We RETURNED to ourselves what the Poles took away from us in 1920.

So, let's compare the situations and draw conclusions! I think this is a very good offer!
The USSR concluded a pact with Hitler on August 23, 1939, which made it possible for the Soviet Union, RETURN regions of Western Ukraine and Belarus, occupied Poland in 1920, Poland occupied the land of the land, after WW1!
Bulgaria entered the Axis on March 1, 1941, which gave her the opportunity, RETURN yourself Macedonia and White Sea Thrace, occupied by Serbia and Greece in WW1!
Bulgaria during the pact between the USSR and Germany, repeated actions of the Soviet Union !!!
If you look at the map, it becomes obvious similarities between the actions of the USSR and Bulgaria, in relation to goals and events!

Captain obvious!

By the way, one more remark: South Dobrogea Occupied by the Romanians after WWI, Bulgaria regained peacefully in 1! This is a result of pressure, which Germany and the USSR together had in Romania!

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: pytar

If you look at the map, the similarity between the actions of the USSR and Bulgaria, in relation to goals and events, becomes apparent.

And therefore, do you think that the USSR was not supposed to send troops into the territory of Bulgaria and not destroy the Hitler troops there?

[pytar]

And therefore, do you think that the USSR was not supposed to send troops into the territory of Bulgaria and not destroy the Hitler troops there?

I never said that! I even think that the entry of Soviet troops is largely salvage for Bulgaria, otherwise the British, and possibly part of the territory and the Turks, would occupy us! The USSR is understandable, this could not be allowed! On the one hand, without fighting, it received the most important strategic bridgehead on the Balkans, on the other, 500 thousand were added to the spacecraft. the Bulgarian army, which incidentally fought quite well against the Wehrmacht on!
I will make only 2 refinements:
1. Hitler’s troops retreated from Bulgaria in advance and didn’t get a direct clash with the spacecraft.
2. Claims are expressed by opponents of the communist ideology brought from outside, whose victims were about 200 thousand. BG citizens! Another million remained in Macedonia and bleated for half a century on de-margarization.

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: pytar

I never said that!

Please forgive me, I am not careful.
Someone under the nickname "Bagatur" spoke about the occupation of Bulgaria by Soviet troops

[smart ass]

Of course the reprimand will get and calm down

[Machito]

In what capacity does the Bulgarian president plan to arrive? Trophy?
Bulgaria was an ally of fascist Germany.

[Terenin]

Numerous international delegations and heads of many states of the world will arrive to celebrate the 75th anniversary of the Victory.

I am more concerned about the question - how many real veterans of the Great Patriotic War and the rear (and not artists and business women) will be delivered and placed in the honorable stands of Red Square.

[Piramidon]

Quote: Terenin

I am more concerned about the question - how many real veterans of the Great Patriotic War and the rear (and not artists and business women) will be delivered and placed in the honorable stands of Red Square.

This question bothers me too. Even those who were called up in 1945 and managed to fight now 93 years. I don’t think that at this age you can easily go to Moscow for a parade. My father volunteered in 1942 at the age of 17, and died in 2004. Mom, a home front worker who worked since she was 15 years old, died in 2017, at the age of 91. Again mummers will be present.?
Py.SY. With great desire, you can find veterans of the Kulikovo battle.

[Terenin]

Quote: Piramidon

Quote: Terenin

I am more concerned about the question - how many real veterans of the Great Patriotic War and the rear (and not artists and business women) will be delivered and placed in the honorable stands of Red Square.

This question bothers me too. Even those who were called up in 1945 and managed to fight now 93 years. I don’t think that at this age you can easily go to Moscow for a parade. My father volunteered in 1942 at the age of 17, and died in 2004. Mom, a home front worker who worked since she was 15 years old, died in 2017, at the age of 91.

In almost every Russian family, the situation is similar.
By the way, your father, like my grandfather, an invalid of the Second World War, died in 1973, during conversations, they clearly distinguished the difference between a "war veteran" and a "front-line soldier" ..., especially when a gram was "rolled over ..."

[Piramidon]

And that Svidomo from the former, Kharkov navigational school which here, in its despicable essence, but without proof, constantly minus me, let it straighten the pan and fly on a broomstick. No matter what, this clandestinely cunning, secretly defecating, pan-and-needle community is capable of nothing.

[Terenin]

Quote: Piramidon

And that Svidomo from the former, Kharkov navigational school which here, in its despicable essence, but without proof, constantly minus me, let it straighten the pan and fly on a broomstick. No matter what, this clandestinely cunning, secretly defecating, pan-and-needle community is capable of nothing.

Who are so many "interesting" letters about?

[SPQR]

Totally agree with you. It is unclear where these people come from in the stands, and even look for some people who allegedly met the war in 1941.
My grandfather went to the front in January 1945. He has been gone for 11 years.

[smart ass]

Well, he will say that they forced Bulgaria, they did not want to

[Piramidon]

Quote: Bearded

In what capacity does the Bulgarian president plan to arrive?

But who knows, maybe he will come with a white flag. We will see. Moreover, he must still ask permission from the Washington Regional Committee for this visit.

[pytar]

In what capacity does the Bulgarian president plan to arrive? Trophy? Bulgaria was an ally of fascist Germany.

Bulgaria was the only country - a member of the Tristran Pact, which did not take part in the war against the USSR. Until September 05.09.1944, 44, they maintained norms. diplomatic relations. The Soviet consulate was located in Sofia, and then in Varna, and the Bulgarian in Kuibishev. Moreover, after September 300, Bulgaria took part in the war against Germany, exposing almost XNUMX thousand. soldier against the Wehrmacht. This is the second largest foreign military group, allied with the Red Army in the east. front. In more detail - in my post below on a branch.

[Piramidon]

Quote: pytar

Bulgaria was the only country - a member of the Tristran Pact, which did not take part in the war against the USSR

But Bulgaria kissed Hitler and supported him. Why go so far? Now Bulgaria is a member of NATO. The main enemy of Russia. Where is your gratitude for Shipka, for liberation from the Ottomans? If Russia had not freed you from the Ottomans in 1878, then you, Boyan Ivanov, would have been born to hell. And if he was born, then a Turkish slave. .

[Bagatur]

Gratitude does not mean Wasal! Those who died - memory and glory! You personally and another 145 Russian citizens owe nothing! But as you can see, we really wanted to just change the Turks as Vladyka ....

[Piramidon]

Quote: bagatura

But as you can see, we really wanted to just change the Turks as Vladyka ....

Thanks bro. It turns out we are ungrateful, did not set you free, but, as I understand you, have become your masters? Explain in Russian normally.

[pytar]

But Bulgaria kissed Hitler and supported him.

Not Bulgaria, but Tsar Boris Sakskoburggotta did not support it, but politely but categorically refused Hitler to send Bulgarian divisions against the Russians.

Now Bulgaria is a member of NATO. The main enemy of Russia.

When Bulgaria joined NATO in 2004, the Russian Federation was very active friends with the pact. They became enemies, not so long ago.

Where is your gratitude for Shipka, for liberation from the Ottomans?

We honor our Liberation! But what do you have to do with them, are you Stepan? Or your oligarchs, plodding Russia today? How should I be grateful to Miller, Sechin, Deripaska and the like, who rule the ball in Russia today? For normal Russian people, we in Bulgaria are wonderful! They are our brothers!

[Piramidon]

Quote: pytar

When Bulgaria joined NATO in 2004, the Russian Federation was very active friends with the pact.

No need to blame everything on Russia and Tsar Boris. and everyone else is white and fluffy? Do you think Russia is to blame for Bulgaria getting into NATO? You "brothers", as always, are trying to blame your shoals and betrayals on Russia. Who elected the current government of Bulgaria, which hates Russia, not the Bulgarian people? Only individual users, like you, assure us of friendship, but in fact .. Yes, if your current NATO masters order you, you, Boyan, run alongside the Yankees and Turks to fight against Russia. And we will not fight with the Bulgarian people, but with their corrupt government, from which you will suffer. Those who once betrayed no trust.

[pytar]

No need to blame everything on Russia and Tsar Boris. and all the rest are white and fluffy?

You can't lump everything together. Different times, different situations, different personalities. Boris and Russia did not intersect. There was simply no Russia then. There was the USSR. The state has a completely different ideology than the Republic of Ingushetia and the Russian Federation. The Bolsheviks destroyed the empires, killed the emperor, then each new secretary general debunked the former, and Gorby and Yeltsin destroyed the Soviet Union. and recently the Yeltsyn center was opened! I understand that it is most difficult for you to decide which of all these "white and fluffy", the Vedas overthrew the others!

In your opinion, is Russia to blame for the fact that Bulgaria has plunged into NATO?

Bulgaria's entry into NATO is the first consequence of the collapse of the ATS and the USSR. Not we ruined them. Who is to blame, I'm not going to judge.

You "brothers", as always, are trying to blame your shoals and betrayals on Russia.

Stepan, no offense, but I already explained - I do not think you are like little brothers. I have a lot of friends and relatives in the Russian Federation! They are my brothers!

Who elected the current government of Bulgaria, which hates Russia, is not the Bulgarian people?

There are all sorts of things in the current government. It is coalitional. It also includes the pro-Russian Ataka party. In general, there are very few people in Bulgaria who hate Russia. Some do not like the policy of the Russian authorities, but there are such people in Russia. Our President is working to improve relations.

Only individual users, like you, assure us of friendship, but in reality ..

According to opinion polls of American social agencies, they are 73% in Bulgaria! It's just that you personally and people from your way of understanding, not one of those with whom we want to be friends ... Don’t be offended, all people are different.

Yes, if your current NATO masters command you, you, Boyan, how nice to run alongside the Yankees and Turks to fight against Russia.

I often read / watch rus-media. So they write to you, for a certain audience ... Calm down, there will be no war.

[Bagatur]

No one intends to fight with you!

[Piramidon]

[quote = pytar] We honor our Liberations! But what do you have to do with them, are you Stepan? / Quote]
I am a descendant of those who set you free. And I have every right to ask you, those who sold themselves to my enemies, on behalf of my ancestors who died in the war with the Turks for the liberation of your country.

[pytar]

I am a descendant of those who set you free. And I have every right to ask you, those who sold themselves to my enemies, on behalf of my ancestors who died in the war with the Turks for the liberation of your country.

Stepan, you are an anonymous forum member, like everyone else. You can be anyone on the Internet. In fact, you do not represent either Russia or the Russian people. Or maybe you're not Russian at all! Internet, such a pike.

[urik62]

Boyan Borisov is in many ways right

[urik62]

Bulgaria has sided with Germany more from hopelessness

[Piramidon]

Quote: urik62

Bulgaria has sided with Germany more from hopelessness

Do not you think that it has become a tradition for Bulgaria to end up in a camp of opponents of Russia in difficult times for the last, that during the First World War, that during the second, in the post-Soviet period. It looks like they already have it in their blood

[axiles100682]

If the Bulgarian troops did not fight on the eastern front, this does not mean that the Bulgarian troops did not help the Nazi German forces on the eastern front indirectly. The Bulgarian forces fought for Nazi Germany on other fronts, thereby freeing the German units who fought with the USSR. Tell me what is wrong?

[pytar]

If the Bulgarian troops did not fight on the eastern front, this does not mean that the Bulgarian troops did not help the Nazi German forces on the eastern front indirectly. The Bulgarian forces fought for Nazi Germany on other fronts, thereby freeing the German units who fought with the USSR. Tell me what is wrong?

Since I’ve been in forums for a long time, I can recount by heart all the abstracts that are spinning. "thereby freeing the German units who fought with the USSR" - duty thesis!
Soooo ... let's see! The question is very interesting, and needs detailed consideration, which is not possible within the framework of my post. I will write, max. short!
After the defeat of Greece and Yugoslavia from the age of 41, the Bulgarian army occupied adjacent territories, mostly inhabited by the predominant Bulgarian population. In Macedonia Until 43, there are constantly 22 thousand. soldier, by September 44 reached 32 thousand. Most soldiers are from their local Macedonian Bulgarians. For them, the BGA was a liberator. There was no partisan movement. In short - Bulgarian soldiers on Bulgarian land, among the Bulgarian population! In fact, in Macedonia, the Bulgarian army did not replace any German units. We will not consider them in the general recount.
To White Sea Thrace, there was the 10th Belomorsky division + 2-frontier border. brigade, + 1-you infantry. incomplete regiment - a total of about 12 thousand soldiers. Only in one short period their number increased to 58 thousand. Ie there were on a permanent basis ok 12-15 thousand.
In East Serbia were at the post. base approx. 15-17 thousand. Bulgarian soldiers.
It turns out 15 thousand. Belomoria + Thessaloniki region 17 thousand in Nishko + Pomorie + Shumadia.
A total of 32-35 thousand. soldier!
[b] At the same time, on the territory of "old" Bulgaria, due to the increase in the partisan movement and the instability of the situation, Wehrmacht was forced to keep ever-increasing contingent. WITH 10 thousand. in 41 g., up to 30 thousand. by 44 g.
It's clear that the number of Bulgarian troops deployed in the neighboring kingdom occupation zones was close to the number of German troops deployed in Bulgaria itself, and in 44 it was completely compared.

[urik62]

Yes, from the Bulgarian fighters as from the threshing pomegranate. By the way, when the Italians were defeated near Stalingrad, the Duce wanted to arm and send a new expeditionary force to the eastern front, but Hitler refused him, saying that why give them weapons if they throw him again. With the Bulgarians almost the same thing.

[pytar]

Yes, from the Bulgarian fighters as from the threshing pomegranate .... With the Bulgarians almost the same.

Only facts: From 1878 until 1945, Bulgaria participated in 5 wars.
1.1885 / only 7 years after the Liberation / Serbia attacks Bulgaria with extremely unfavorable circumstances for the latter. Followed by the defeat of the Serbian army and the Bulgarian parade in Belgrade.
2.1912 the first Balkan war. The Bulgarian army sweeps the transient Ottoman armies from the Balkans. It takes by storm the unprecedented, according to the Germans, Odrinsk fortress and reaches 40 km. from Constantinople. Complete victory!
3.1913 Second Balkan War. Greece, Serbia, Cerna Gora, Romania and Turkey are simultaneously fighting against Bulgaria. Bulgaria is losing.
4.World War I - Subtle battles are being fought on 2 fronts. Opponents are Serbia, Greece, Romania, France, Britain and Russia. 2 expeditionary forces of the RA war to defeat. Macedonia, White Sea Thrace and Dobrogea cleared of the enemy. The parade of the Bulgarian army in Bukuresh. Ultimately, Bulgaria is defeated.
5.World War II - In the first fuzzy, Bulgaria does not participate, except to protect the sky from American bombers. In the second phase, participates against Germany. Losses at the Germans 2X1 to the Bulgarian losses. Victory for the Bulgarian army.

Perhaps the best way to judge the courage of one army is by how many banners of alien army she captured, and how many of hers were taken prisoner?
So, in the Bulgarian museums are stored 67 banners captured in battles! There are Turkish, Serbian, Greek, Romanian and Russian (they are from 1mv).
In foreign museums there is not a single Bulgarian banner captured in battles.

[Atlant-1164]

I assure you .. if he knew for sure that Messrs. Trump, Macron, Merkel wouldn’t come. He wouldn’t come for any punishment. and so for the company and Winnie-the-Pooh hanged himself)

[4ekist]

They were waiting for him very much. Thank you for reporting arrival readiness.

[vanavatny]

all right

[Vasyan1971]

During a conversation with the Russian leader, Rumen Radev confirmed that he intends to come to Moscow to celebrate the 75th anniversary of the Victory of the USSR in the Great Patriotic War.

Well, except for extras ...

[maidan.izrailovich]

But is it necessary to accept those who were in the enemy camp? Moreover, that in the First World War, that in the Second World War. Yes, and now on the other side of the barricades. What an enviable constancy.

[cost]

It is also known that 75 Serbian troops will arrive to participate in the parade on Red Square.

Only Serbs will represent the glorious partisan People's Liberation Army of Yugoslavia? And the rest?

[Pavel57]

The Croats were allies of the Germans.

[cost]

The Croats were allies of the Germans.

Not everyone. Of the 15 Yugoslav corps of the NOAU, 5 were from Croatia: the 4th Croatian, 6th Slavonsky, 8th Dalmatian, 10th Zagreb and 11th Croatian. And besides them there was also the 1st Bosnian Corps and the Montenegrin, Macedonian and Slovenian divisions. What can I say - the NOAU also included 4 Italian partisan divisions: the 1st Vilavian division, the Italian partisan division Garibaldi, the Garibaldi division Natisone and the Garibaldi division Fontanot

[shubin]

Joseph Broz Tito was a Croat.

[smart ass]

Fishless fish and cancer

[pytar]

But is it necessary to accept those who were in the enemy camp? Moreover, that in the First World War, that in the Second World War. Yes, and now on the other side of the barricades. What an enviable constancy.

German Chancellor, Angela Merkel came to celebrate the 65th anniversary of the Victory in Moscow in 2010. And Bulgaria did not participate in the war against the USSR. Moreover, she participated against Nazi Germany.

Information:
Bulgarian troops participated in the hostilities against Germany in Yugoslavia, Hungary and Austria. By mid-October 1944, Bulgaria was mobilizing 454 soldiers in 653 armies. On the Eastern Front, together with the Red Army, the 4st, 1nd and 2th Armored Forces of the Army are fighting against the Wehrmacht - 4 soldiers. As a result of the rapid advance of the Bulgarian troops in the West, the retreat routes of the Aegean group of the Wehrmacht and 286 thousand were cut off. German soldiers surrendered to the British in northern Greece. The Bulgarian army takes part in the Belgrade operation. March 930-200, 6 - as part of the troops of the 15rd Ukrainian Front, the 1945st BGA participated in the battle near Lake Balaton. After May 3th and the surrender of Germany until May 1th, the Bulgarian army continued the battles with the still resisting German units and with the Croatian Ustashi in Slovenia and Bosnia until they were completely defeated.

As a result of hostilities of the Bulgarian troops, German troops lost 69 thousand troops killed and captured (+200 thousand Aegean Wehrmacht), 21 aircraft, 75 tanks, 937 guns and mortars, 4 thousand cars and transp. funds (3724 vehicles, as well as many other equipment: tractors, motorcycles, etc.), 71 steam locomotives and 5769 wagons, a significant amount of weapons, ammunition, equipment and military equipment.

From the beginning of September 1944 until the end of the war in the battles against the German army and its allies, the losses of the Bulgarian army amounted to 31 military personnel; 910 soldiers and officers of the Bulgarian army were awarded Soviet orders, 360 thousand troops - the medal "For the victory over Germany in the Great Patriotic War of 120-1941." Three times the Bulgarian People's Army was marked with salutes in the orders of the Supreme Commander of the Armed Forces of the USSR!

Commander of the 1-Bulgarian Army, General Vladimir Stoychev took part in the Victory Parade on Red Square, marching in the ranks of the commanders of the 3-Ukrainian front.

In addition, in 1941-1945. Bulgarian anti-fascists (Bulgarian citizens and political emigrants who obtained USSR citizenship) fought as soldiers of the Red Army and took part in the Soviet partisan movement in the occupied territory of the USSR. Only in the ranks of the Red Army 223 Bulgarian fought and 151 of them died. At that time, the Bulgarian partisans actively fought on the territory of Bulgaria with monarchists and Nazis.

According to official figures from the Bulgarian government, the direct military expenditures of Bulgaria during the period of hostilities on the side of the countries of the anti-Hitler coalition amounted to 95 leva / equivalent to 000 gold francs /.

[Xnumx vis]

Everyone who came to Russia to celebrate Victory Day will be a welcome, respected friend in Russia!

[pytar]

Everyone who came to Russia to celebrate Victory Day will be a welcome, respected friend in Russia!

President Gen. Rumen Radev crawls with a record rating in Bulgaria. He is the initiator of the process to improve relations between our countries. Radev never hid his sympathies for Russia. This was one of the reasons for which he so categorically won the election in 2017.
Video: 1st class pilot Gen. Radev - aerobatics on the MiG-29.

[Xnumx vis]

Under the Union, the USSR talked with Bulgarian sailors .. Good, reliable guys! Gorbachev betrayed the friends of the USSR. Here is the result. It is easy to push and offend. To become a reliable friend again, to make forgetting the past difficult.

[pytar]

Gorbachev betrayed the friends of the USSR. Here is the result. It is easy to push and offend. To become a reliable friend again, to make forgetting the past difficult.

Anger Sect Adherents "Bulgarians are eternal traitors, in all wars they fought against us, in short, sworn enemies from prehistoric times"...

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: pytar

Do not anger the adepts with the sect "Bulgarians are eternal traitors,

I do not care for them. I have my own opinion.

[axiles100682]

Yes, it’s not the matter of the Bulgarians, but of your ruler. Not the Bulgarians entered into an alliance with the third flight, but a specific Bulgarian ruler, but the Bulgarians fought for the third Reich. Not the Bulgarians entered NATO, but the specific Bulgarian government, but the Bulgarians. ...... !!! Well, you understand what I mean?

[pytar]

Quote: axiles100682

Yes, it’s not the Bulgarians matter, but your ruler.

And your type is not necessary ...?

[Lionnvrsk]

Quote: pytar

marching in ranks of commanders

Since then, a lot of water has flowed ... Everything has changed. Previously, the street in Sofia where my school is located was named after Traicho Kostov, and now St. Naum. Previously, your commander-in-chief marched with ours, and now with NATO.

[pytar]

Since then, a lot of water has flowed ... Everything has changed. There used to be a street in Sofia where my school is located was named after Traicho Kostov, and now St. Naum.

Water flowed and constantly flows, sometimes like a muddy stream ... Example:

1.Traicho Kostov Dzhunev (June 17, 1897, Sofia - Dec 16, 1949) - Bulgarian Communist politician, member of the partisan movement, prominent party leader. In 1942 he was arrested by the tsarist police and sentenced to life imprisonment (the intercession of Prof. Balan to Tsar Boris III helped to avoid the death penalty). After 44, a member of the Politburo, Secretary of the Central Committee of the BKP. Member of the government of NRB. Yary Stalinist, an active participant in the repressions carried out by the communist regime in the second half of the 1940s. Since 1948 he himself fell out of favor and, on instructions from Moscow, was determined to be liquidated. At first, even George Dimitrov himself was considered an enemy, but the ego saved the reputation of the heroes of the Leipzig process. In December 1949, a show trial took place in Sofia. To help organize the organization, functionaries of the MGB regiment were sent from the USSR. Likhachev and the regiment. Schwartzman. At the trial, Traicho Kostov was sentenced to death (in the last word he tried to say that his confessions were torn out by torture). A few days later he was hanged. Partial rehabilitation of Traicho Kostov came in 1956, at the initiative of Todor Zhivkov. Kostov was completely rehabilitated in 1963; he was posthumously awarded the honorary title. In December 1989, after the removal of Zhivkov, the “perestroika” leadership of the BKP rehabilitated Kostov not only legally, but also politically.

2. Saint Naum of Ohrid (Bulgarian and Maked. Naum Ohridski, also known as Naum Preslavsky; 830s - December 23, 910, Ohrid) is a Bulgarian saint, especially revered in modern Bulgaria and Macedonia. The Holy Naum together with St. St. Cyril and Methodius, as well as with his associate St. Clement of Ohrid, is one of the founders of Bulgarian Christian literature. The BOC includes St. Naum in the number of members. In 886–893, he lived in Preslav, becoming the organizer of a local literary school. In 893/894, instead of Clement of Ohrid, he headed the Ohrid Book School. In 905 he founded a monastery on the shores of Lake Ohrid. His relics are also stored there. The boulevard in Sofia is named after him, and Mount St. Naum on Livingston Island (South Shetland Islands) is also named. On these islands, there is a permanent Bulgarian Antarctic buzz

I still think that Saint Nahum, the best name for a boulevard ...

Previously, your commander-in-chief marched with ours, and now with NATO.

In the 90s yours wanted to continue marching not from ours, but from NATO. As a result, we march with them. These are the cycles of history ...

[Lionnvrsk]

Quote: pytar

I still think that Saint Nahum, the best name for a boulevard ...

It's your right. Call at least Bogdan Filov, Vasil Boydov or Stefan Klechkov. Or Polina Nedyalkova, or Metropolitan Stefan, this is your story, your memory, you live with her. There svidomye Bandera and Shukhevych called.

[pytar]

It's your right. Call at least Bogdan Filov, Vasil Boydov or Stefan Klechkov. Or Polina Nedyalkova, or Metropolitan Stefan, this is your story, your memory, you live with her.

Blvd. St. Nahum - quite in place. Great, Holy Person, undeniable!

There svidomye Bandera and Shukhevych called.

And Svidomo, Bandera, Shukhevych? And in our conversation, in general, Ukraine?

[Lionnvrsk]

Quote: pytar

As a result, we march with them.

The flag is in your hands! And God bless you!

[pytar]

As a result, we march with them.

The flag is in your hands! And God bless you!

I tried to give as much informative information as possible, and you were impressed on the last line. Okay. By the way, believers write God, with the main letter!

[Lionnvrsk]

What informative information? About T. Kostov and St. Naum? So I knew her without you.
You do not seem to understand or want to understand what I mean. And I’m talking about how many people have recently changed their idols, ideals. history, etc., often hiding behind pathetic speeches or accusatory speeches addressed to the neighbor ("yours wanted to march further not from ours"). I am absolutely not opposed to St. Nahum, I am against how quickly some people change their shoes.
Regarding believers, I’m rather an atheist and not even baptized. But! This did not stop me from putting candles on the images in the church of St. Nicholas of Myra and St. Alexander Nevsky in Sofia, as well as in the Assumption Cathedral in Varna. And this does not make me look like our generals, who even 15 years ago flashed speeches at party meetings, and now they are baptized in temples and bowed.

[pytar]

What informative information? About T. Kostov and St. Naum? So I knew her without you.

I'm sure you know her. I hope the info was useful to other members of the forum.

You don't seem to understand or want to understand what I mean. And I mean how many have recently changed their idols, ideals. history, etc., hiding behind often pretentious speeches or accusatory speeches addressed to your neighbor ("yours wanted to march further not from ours")

It looks like we were misunderstanding. My note hinted as follows: claims to Bulgaria about too abrupt changes in course, inconstancy, etc., look unreasonable, because you are a citizen of a country that has managed to change 3 times 180 times in a century. social system, ideology and even the name! Moreover, this country managed to enter into various unions-conflicts, based on its interests, which change in time. Actually, all countries do this. In short, I tried not to affect your patriotic feelings. I don’t think that mutual claims with someone will help.

Regarding believers, I’m rather an atheist and not even baptized. But! This did not stop me from putting candles on the images in the church of St. Nicholas of Myra and St. Alexander Nevsky in Sofia, as well as in the Assumption Cathedral in Varna.

The topic is really very personal for every business woman. I make a difference between Faith, Religiosity, and Acts.

[LMN]

We are waiting for May 9 in Moscow.

[Professor Preobrazhensky]

Why not come?
A discount on gas, a nuclear power plant on credit or a S-400 complex on credit ... It is entirely possible to receive in honor of the holiday. Russia is a generous soul.

[pytar]

Why not come? A discount on gas, a nuclear power plant on credit or a S-400 complex on credit ... It is entirely possible to receive in honor of the holiday. Russia is a generous soul.

Yes, why not ... After all, they invited ... Economic issues are discussed at other events. The discounts and loans described by you are related to the Russian-Turkish economy.

[Million]

If you were planning to come for a holiday, why are monuments to Soviet soldiers destroyed in Bulgaria?

[pytar]

If you were planning to come for a holiday, why are monuments to Soviet soldiers destroyed in Bulgaria?

Do not ruin anything. Provocateurs supervised by one embassy, ​​vandalized under the cover of night, but against the background of their huge number these are isolated cases. In Bulgaria there are approx. 530 monuments dedicated to Russia (400) and the USSR (130). This is in the country with a rectangle size of only 400x500 km. According to the concentration of Russian / Sov. Monuments Bulgaria is probably the world leader. And the places, streets, squares named in honor of Russia cannot be counted ... Bulgaria is one of the few countries in the world where, after the 90s, new monuments stand in honor of Russian figures. Over the past 10-15 years, 12-14 new ones have been erected. There are several more at different stages of project readiness.

[Paranoid50]

Quote: pytar

But the localities, streets, and squares named in honor of Russia cannot be counted ...

We have in Kupchino (St. Petersburg) st. Dimitrova intersects with Sofia (which has already gone out of town) and runs parallel to Plovdiv.

[pytar]

We have in Kupchino (St. Petersburg) st. Dimitrova intersects with Sofia (which has already gone out of town) and runs parallel to Plovdiv.

Dear Alexander, unfortunately, most people in Bulgaria and Russia know little about the monuments and places associated with our common centuries-old history! The media only replicates the negative, although in reality the positive is 100 times more!

[Paranoid50]

Quote: pytar

The media only replicates the negative

The media are often engaged by the same corrupt politicians who dance to the tune of others, trading their own country.

[pytar]

The media are often engaged by the same corrupt politicians who dance to the tune of others, trading their own country.

And there is. Unfortunately

[Bagatur]

And who fought in Bulgaria? The Red Army in 44-47, in essence, occupational power was provided by the Sovietization of the country.

[Paranoid50]

Quote: bagatura

The Red Army in 44-47, in essence, occupational power was provided by the Sovietization of the country.

And what's the problem?

[Bagatur]

No problems! If we say the truth! OCCUPATION is NOT RELEASE and then everything is in place! And then the question: Should OCCUPIERS build monuments?

[Paranoid50]

Quote: bagatura

And then the question: Should OCCUPIERS build monuments?

Well, if so, then the question is: should I ask for membership in the occupying country ?!
Eh, "brother", the most expensive thing in the world is human stupidity, because you have to pay the most for it.

[Bagatur]

I did not ask! The people, too! And the communists, and then the directors of the USSR, they knew who owed them power and privileges!

[Paranoid50]

Quote: bagatura

I did not ask! The people, too!

How funny - sign for all the people. Okay, remember Todor Zhivkov.

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

To be honest, he has nothing to do there ..

[maidan.izrailovich]

To be honest, he has nothing to do there ..

That's right. Attendance at this event still needs to be earned.

[LMN]

Quote: maidan.izrailovich

To be honest, he has nothing to do there ..

That's right. Attendance at this event still needs to be earned.

How did Israel deserve a presence?

[Lelek]

Quote: LMN

How did Israel deserve a presence?

The fact that he is a "work of the USSR".

[LMN]

Quote: Lelek

Quote: LMN

How did Israel deserve a presence?

The fact that he is a "work of the USSR".

Absolutely. The Russian Federation must tolerate this country only because they themselves participated in their creation.

[Alexga]

Quote: LMN

How did Israel deserve a presence?

It may be that they have, like in Russia and Belarus, Victory Day on May XNUMXth.

[LMN]

Quote: AlexGa

Quote: LMN

How did Israel deserve a presence?

It may be that they have, like in Russia and Belarus, Victory Day on May XNUMXth.

What did this country do in May 1945?
From what part of Berlin did it advance?

[Alexga]

I say that this country celebrates this holiday in the same tribute as we do. These are only THREE countries out of more than 200. We noticed that only two of the former USSR celebrate Victory Day on May 9th. And where is Armenia, Azerbaijan and others ??

[LMN]

Quote: AlexGa

I say that this country celebrates this holiday in the same tribute as we do. These are only THREE countries out of more than 200. We noticed that only two of the former USSR celebrate Victory Day on May 9th. And where is Armenia, Azerbaijan and others ??

And only one country that celebrates Victory Day on May 9 crashes our plane. Kills our soldiers.
Israeli citizen with almost 10 gr. drug, is delayed in the Russian Federation and receives a well-deserved term. At first she refuses to file a petition in the name of the President of the Russian Federation. Then she writes and after a pardon, she declares that she will file in an international court against the Russian Federation.
If they absolutely do not respect and do not appreciate the attitude of the Russian Federation towards them, why are they needed ?!
Here, Jews absolutely freely laugh and scoff at the RF and the RF Armed Forces, over the country and the people who gave them life, why are they needed at the Victory Parade?

[georggy]

[quoteWhat did Israel deserve the presence of?] [/ quote]
They are recorded victims of the Holocaust. Have you forgotten?

[LMN]

Quote: george

How did Israel deserve a presence?

They are recorded victims of the Holocaust. Have you forgotten?

How to forget this. Millions of Slavs sacrificed their lives for the memory of the Jews. Such things are not forgotten.
And now, poor fellow Jews can finally answer the Slavs ... thank you Israel for your gratitude.

[Egoza]

Quote: george

[quoteWhat did Israel deserve a presence?]

They are recorded victims of the Holocaust. forgot really? [/ quote]
You'd better google and find out how many Jews fought, how many of them were Heroes of the Soviet Union, how many veterans live in Israel (and HOW they live) And they also celebrate May 9! In Ukraine, they don't even dream of this !!! Again, Bandera will be invited to the same table with the veterans and "reconciliation" to portray !!!!

[georggy]

You’d better google and find out how many Jews fought, how many Heroes of the Soviet Union are among them, how many veterans live in Israel (and HOW they live)

KNOW. And how it fought. and how many heroes are not surprised. After all, they defeated fascism, and not millions of citizens of the Soviet Union.
We know.

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

Israel, at least, did not fight on the side of the Wehrmacht.

[Sling cutter]

Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich

Israel, at least, did not fight on the side of the Wehrmacht.

Comment of the day!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[LMN]

Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich

Israel, at least, did not fight on the side of the Wehrmacht.

It was funny if I fought

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

I understood the criticism.) Non-Israel-Jews.

[LMN]

Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich

I understood the criticism.) Non-Israel-Jews.

Israel, as a state, could not fight against Vemakhta. The State of Israel was founded in 1948.

[Sling cutter]

Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich

I understood the criticism.) Non-Israel-Jews.

Quote: LMN

Israel, as a state, could not fight against Vemakhta. The State of Israel was founded in 1948.

Kamrad, you see, this is the level! Yaplyachu
Just don’t tell him that even the Jews were burned in the ovens, and the easiest was shot, otherwise he will go crazy.

[LMN]

Well, this is how we live ..

[georggy]

Israel, at least, did not fight on the side of the Wehrmacht

Every 3 German families are 50% Jewish. - Hitlers, Heydrichs, Goring, etc.
So who fought with whom and against whom?

[LMN]

Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich

To be honest, he has nothing to do there ..

If by "conscience", then many others have nothing to do there either.

[rotmistr60]

Monuments have been desecrated in the country, young people are expressing dissatisfaction with Russia, the prime minister licked NATO deeply, South Stream has not yet been forgotten, now it is simply necessary to try to somehow balance the not-so-good situation. And if I come to you on Victory Day, maybe everything will be settled?

[pytar]

Monuments have been desecrated in the country, young people are expressing dissatisfaction with Russia, the prime minister licked NATO deeply, South Stream has not yet been forgotten, now it is simply necessary to try to somehow balance the not-so-good situation. And if I come to you on Victory Day, maybe everything will be settled?

Judging by the posts "workers of the information front" from the forums, "it really is" ... Propaganda is a terrible thing! Gebels also realized what a powerful weapon she was! But according to the research of the American social agency "Bulgarians turned out to be the main supporters of Russia and Putin in the world .."
https://news.ru/russia/bolgary-okazalis-glavnymi-storonnikami-rossii-i-putina-v-mire/
https://news.rambler.ru/world/43654895-nazvany-glavnye-storonniki-rossii-i-putina-v-mire/?updated

[Gardamir]

The initiator of the call was ... Oh, it’s hard to be the president of Russia, everyone calls, although do not leave the phone.

[Volodin]

Quote: Gardamir

The initiator of the call was ... Oh, it’s hard to be the president of Russia, everyone calls, although do not leave the phone.

Indeed, to listen to the Kremlin's press service, all telephone conversations of the President were initiated exclusively "from there": from the melting of Greenlandic icebergs to the ceasefire regime near Golden / Idlib / Tripoli / Kabul (hereinafter - everywhere) ...

[Lamata]

Let him ride, at the same time look at the parade, figure out what’s what.

[Alexga]

It would be nice if the heads of the victorious states rose on the rostrum of the Mausoleum, and all the rest - below, in the crowd of other guests. Although, in order to be on the podium of the Mausoleum, the right must also be earned.

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

For some reason, they speak little and forget about the fraternal assistance of Mongolia during the Second World War. The only place worth visiting and offering is the best place among the guests, the leader of Mongolia.

[Alexga]

I completely agree with you, the Museum of G.K.Zhukov was created in Ulan Bator back in 1979, the memorial on Mount Zaysan began to be built in 1971. He served there in 1985-1990 and it was nice to see their gratitude to the USSR for our help to them in different years. Yes, I still found a time when St.V. Stalin Street adjoined V.I. Lenin Avenue.

[rocket757]

If it weren’t for politeness .... pi pi pi.

[tovarich-andrey.62goncharov]

They, too, defeated them ...

[Alexga]

And what does Germany's ally have to do with Victory? Yes, the Red Army entered the territory of Bulgaria without firing. I think that the “Faberge” of the local leaders simply turned out to be not iron. Brothers always bent to fit the situation, and during the Turkish war, from now.

[pytar]

And what does the ally of Germany have to do with Victory.

Read my post upstream.

[Xenofont]

The presence at the Parade of representatives of the vanquished, and now again hostile states such as Bulgaria, puts precisely our country in, to put it mildly, a strange situation, if not stupid.

[Bagatur]

Excuse me, but did Radev begged for his greetings? Invited, will come, diplomatic politeness. I personally do not care whether Radev will be there or not ...

[Xenofont]

Are you sure you didn’t ask? Maybe it makes sense to invite veterans and supporters of friendship with Russia, rather than rotten officialdom?

[mi ah]

But weren't the brothers for the Germans? As whom will he arrive

[pytar]

But weren't the brothers for the Germans? As whom will he arrive

Read my post upstream.

[Operator]

Quote: LMN

declares that it will file an international court against the Russian Federation

The thing is done - the building of the Orthodox Compound 70 meters from Calvary is registered in the ownership of the Russian Federation.

A drug addict can file complaints even in Sportloto.

[Zebus]

A discount on gas will ask ... Hehe!

[pytar]

A discount on gas will ask ... Hehe!

No need. 1. The gas issue is not in the prerogatives of the presidential institution in our country. The prime minister and the government are involved in this. 2.Even in 2018, Gazprom signed an agreement with the European Commission to reduce prices for gas supplies in Bulgaria, from April 2019. Along with this, negotiations are underway on a new agreement.

[iouris]

Today - I agree. But before May 9, a lot of muddy water will flow out.

[Prisoner]

Well! The prime minister is not childish, but the president compensates. These are the cunning Bulgarian "brothers"!

[pytar]

The prime minister is not childish, but the president compensates. These are the cunning Bulgarian "brothers"!

The Prime Minister and the President represent two opposing political forces! In the last month, the opposition between them has escalated to red! And stamps like "cunning Bulgarian" brothers ""for those who do not know ...

[Prisoner]

Sorry. But it’s not the prime minister and the presidents who are mocking at the monuments, but ordinary people !! I know that there are normal Bulgarians, there are adequate Poles and there are many of them. Why are there not enough adequate Bulgarians? !!! Can send everyone and live for himself ?!

[pytar]

But it’s not the prime minister and the presidents who are mocking at the monuments, but ordinary people !!

Do you think such people are ordinary ??? Those who commit vandalism over the monument are in 3 categories - psychos, juvenile idiots and paid provocateurs.

Why are there not enough adequate Bulgarians? !!!

Because the TV inspires you with this. For 20 years, in Bulgaria there have been no more than 14-15 cases! All over the monuments associated with communism. Nobody ever touched the "Russian" ones. If you look through the ru-net you will be left with the impression that the Bulgarians have no other business but to paint the monuments! Nothing to do with reality! By the way, for comparison - there are hundreds of cases of vandalism in Russia! At that time in Bulgaria over the past 20 years, there were constantly 14 new monuments in honor of Russia. Alyosha was repaired for half a million euros, the whole park is landscaped! Have you heard something like that on your TV sets? Nope ...?

[cniza]

Bulgarian President announces readiness to come to Moscow for 75th Victory Day

But is he needed here ...

[Jarserge]

First of all, is he needed there in Moscow? And secondly, has he already asked the owners? And then, after all, they will put on the look and will not give money