Chubais spoke about the “revolution” in the production of graphene nanotubes in Russia


OCSiAl, previously part of the Rusnano group, launched the Graphetron-50 industrial unit in Novosibirsk, which has no analogues anywhere in the world. According to the head of the board of Rusnano Anatoly Chubais, this is "an outstanding event of an international scale, a real revolution in the production of nanofibers, various materials."


It is about putting into operation a plant for the production of graphene nanotubes with a capacity of 50 tons per year. Chubais claims that not a single company in the world today can manufacture a single ton of this innovative material.

When added to the composition of other materials in small quantities, graphene nanotubes can radically change their characteristics. For example, a 0,1 percent addition of nanotubes to aluminum doubles its strength, and the addition of one thousandth of a percent of this material to concrete makes it one and a half times stronger. And adding 0,01 percent to plastic, you can make it electrically conductive. The graphene tubes themselves are 150 times stronger than steel.

Already, the Russian company OCSiAl supplies nanotubes to 75 percent of the world's leading technology manufacturers. Most of them do not disclose the fact of their cooperation with the Russians. It is only known that the customers of OCSiAl are LG and Pirelli.
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  1. certero 19 February 2020 11: 31 New
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    aluminum is 2 times stronger how is it?
    1. Svarog 19 February 2020 11: 33 New
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      Another revolution from Chubais? annoying ..
      1. wayden 19 February 2020 11: 40 New
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        Well, it was clearly not Chubais who came up with it, he only voiced it.
        1. Arlen 19 February 2020 11: 47 New
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          If Chubais voiced, then he saw this as a benefit for himself, but not for the country and people!
          1. Alex Nevs 19 February 2020 11: 50 New
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            He so covertly begs for pension savings.
            1. krot 19 February 2020 20: 39 New
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              As often happens with us, we made a revolution in technology, and cream will be removed in production in the west ..))) Technology will leak, by hook or by crook .. request
          2. nod739 20 February 2020 00: 51 New
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            Last year (or even the year before last), a detailed article on this subject was in popular mechanics, our compatriot, scientist, businessman, specially made this production from scratch, so that then he could enter the world market, the essence of why
            1. nod739 20 February 2020 01: 03 New
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              more detailed article written 3 years ago

              https://www.popmech.ru/science/317022-russkaya-tekhnologiya-grafenovye-nanotrubki/
            2. Attsxnumx 20 February 2020 14: 52 New
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              Actually a little bit wrong. At the initial stage, RUSNANO was not even close)) RUSNANO appeared only when there was already an experimental installation and expansion was required on an industrial scale !! and the revolution took place in 2014)) in general, a very interesting story of a startup and investor acquaintance with a scientist who invited them to develop this technology. I watched the presentation of this company like back in 2012, very informative !!
        2. Victor N 20 February 2020 08: 00 New
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          Chubais organized.
        3. dinis 21 February 2020 12: 00 New
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          Chubais financed, or rather Rusnano.
      2. Chaldon48 19 February 2020 11: 48 New
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        They will start production then it will be possible to speak.
        1. Raven2705 19 February 2020 11: 50 New
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          Already launched
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            1. ultra 19 February 2020 12: 14 New
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              Hello, garage !!! Where are the real achievements here? Then it turns out, as it has happened more than once, that in China all this is done three times cheaper. And the state money has already been spent. And this production will be left in desolation. You give examples or yourself will you find?
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                1. ultra 19 February 2020 12: 23 New
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                  In all previous "projects" RUSNANO did. Battery, LED lamps, solar panels and other. Money was invested, but production, in fact, is worth it.
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                  2. Ka-52 19 February 2020 14: 29 New
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                    In all previous "projects" RUSNANO did. Battery, LED lamps, solar panels and other. Money was invested, but production, in fact, is worth it.

                    let's no lies. The plant in Novochebaksaksary works around the clock, but even with all its productivity it does not keep up with demand. It is not his fault that the performance was designed based on a forecast of 5 years ago. And during this time, the market demand has grown 500 times. Consider that the Hevel company (the owner of the Chebaksary plant) commissioned 2017 MW capacity in 75, and 2019 MW in 275. And this is approximately 850 thousand. solar panels. Therefore, they had to (despite their plant, which simply did not draw out such a need) buy some of the panels from the Chinese. That's it, ale garage ...
                    1. Campanella 19 February 2020 17: 09 New
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                      Something I did not meet Cheboksary panels, but Chinese on every corner.
                      1. Ka-52 20 February 2020 04: 41 New
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                        Something I did not meet Cheboksary panels, but Chinese on every corner

                        for this, it’s enough to go to any of the SESs built by Havel. If you have not personally seen them, this does not mean that they are not in principle. Hevel is the largest builder of SES in Russia and neighboring countries. And the lion's share of its panels goes to the needs of its own power plants. Have you ever read THAT I wrote above in my comment

                        ps minus eye eat what? That I will voice quite accessible information? By this I violate their idyll of all-propitiousness? They probably would be pleased to realize that in Russia everything is really in ruin and there is not a single enterprise producing high-tech products that is running at full capacity. Then it would definitely fit into their picture of the world and justify the whine about our wretched country .... it is interesting to look into the eyes of at least one such all-around fan
                      2. Campanella 20 February 2020 11: 20 New
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                        I don’t eat anything. Why should I seek out what our industry produces? In everyday life, the achievements of domestic industry are strangely invisible.
                        So my philistine look is completely objective.
                        And I can say more, I was more pleased to see the opposite, but alas, there is none. Corruption, money-grubbing and degradation is what Russia is so far the first to do.
                2. Starover_Z 19 February 2020 16: 35 New
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                  Quote: ultra
                  In all previous "projects" RUSNANO did. Battery, LED lamps, solar panels and other. Money was invested, but production, in fact, is worth it.

                  One RosNanoTablet is worth it! Already has no analogues in the world!
                  (RosNano from Chubais - Horn and Hoof from O. Bender!)
            2. michael2000 19 February 2020 12: 27 New
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              I would like to see examples.
          2. mikh-korsakov 19 February 2020 12: 31 New
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            The author seems to be flirting. Like, the world's leading companies are not disclosed. "But to you, dear VO forum users, I’ll tell you a secret - these are Lg and Pirelli." But for me personally, no matter how the whiners moan, they say that technology will be taken to China, and it will be cheaper there, the news is good. Why - firstly, and mainly because the material for the intended use is critical in quality, therefore, with all due respect to the Chinese, a Chinese product is tested a hundred times before taking it. and why raise the gimp. Secondly, the material on the market is in demand - from the word everywhere, so there’s enough room for everyone
            1. ultra 19 February 2020 15: 48 New
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              In China, he buys them, because they are three times cheaper.
      3. FenH 19 February 2020 11: 51 New
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        already running
        https://ocsial.com/ru/news/363/
        1. Campanella 19 February 2020 17: 10 New
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          Let's see how long the production of graphene "glasses" will last!
    2. Yngvar 19 February 2020 11: 55 New
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      Chubais has nothing to do with graphene! Just as usual, this redhead dirty trick gives other people's results for their own!
      And this idea of ​​Novosibirsk people (I don’t remember my last name), even like the Nobel’s, was received for this ...
      1. FenH 19 February 2020 11: 58 New
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        Quote: Yngvar
        Chubais has nothing to do with graphene! Just as usual, this redhead dirty trick gives other people's results for their own!
        And this idea of ​​Novosibirsk people (I don’t remember my last name), even like the Nobel’s, was received for this ...

        The author of a unique technology is a Russian physicist, academician of the Russian Academy of Sciences Mikhail Predtechensky.
        1. Yngvar 19 February 2020 11: 59 New
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          Right! Thanks for the addition!
          1. FenH 19 February 2020 12: 01 New
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            Quote: Yngvar
            Right! Thanks for the addition!

            All the good news was crap with Chubais, although he’s not at all involved here.
            1. Lopatov 19 February 2020 12: 10 New
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              Quote: FenH
              although he’s not here at all

              Just an OCSiAl company project, originally promoted by Rusnano. And solely due to the acquaintance of the creators of the company with Chubais and his deputy. By pulling so to speak.
              1. SOF
                SOF 19 February 2020 14: 00 New
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                Quote: Spade
                Just an OCSiAl company project, originally promoted by Rusnano. And solely due to the acquaintance of the creators of the company with Chubais and his deputy. By pulling so to speak.

                .... for all my NOT love for Chubais, I have to admit the fact that the cohort of fighters with the cutting regime has successfully ignored your statement .....
                .... they cannot prove the opposite .... unprovenly object - too .... the best way is to modestly "not notice" ...... belay
        2. Major Yurik 19 February 2020 12: 14 New
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          The author of the unique technology is the Russian physicist, academician of the Russian Academy of Sciences Mikhail Predtechensky.

          There are no questions for the academician, genius, but for Chubais I have accumulated a three-volume !!!! negative
          1. FenH 19 February 2020 12: 16 New
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            Quote: Major Yurik
            The author of the unique technology is the Russian physicist, academician of the Russian Academy of Sciences Mikhail Predtechensky.

            There are no questions for the academician, genius, but for Chubais I have accumulated a three-volume !!!! negative

            And this is how the news file is called hi
            1. Yngvar 19 February 2020 16: 41 New
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              Well, I don’t know how on the three-volume, but on the “three-ruler” for sure!
          2. gregoryivanov 20 February 2020 00: 14 New
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            Well, a three-volume book, not a three-volume book, but for all his achievements, a red vial of green stuff earned - to disinfect his forehead so that the bullet would not bring the infection ...
        3. Campanella 19 February 2020 17: 12 New
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          This is understandable and a hedgehog. The question is different, is the Russian economy ready to consume these products? Six months later, it turns out that the Chinese are cheaper to sell the same and that’s all, Arctic fox production.
        4. nod739 20 February 2020 01: 05 New
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          Here in detail
          https://www.popmech.ru/science/317022-russkaya-tekhnologiya-grafenovye-nanotrubki/
      2. ultra 19 February 2020 12: 25 New
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        Two received the Nobel Prize for graphene, but they are no longer ours. They have long been working over the hill.
    3. Chervonny 19 February 2020 13: 28 New
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      Quote: Svarog
      annoying

      Where Chubais there is the privatization of everything and everyone. Again money from the budget will be allocated to his "ideas".
    4. astepanov 19 February 2020 14: 51 New
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      The revolution is not from Chubais. He’s baking here on the side, he’s going to heaven on someone else’s hump. The production capacity of the company now is 75 tons per year, the price of products is about $ 9000 per 1 kg. This means that sales (if there is demand) can reach $ 675 million per year. What profit is not known, since there is no data on the cost price. About the material and applications are on the company website: https://ocsial.com/ru/technology/about/
      It is unclear who owns the company, but its head office is in Luxembourg.
      1. astepanov 19 February 2020 15: 09 New
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        I found more information. “The head of OCSiAl noted that now in Russia only about 2% of the company's products are consumed, another third is consumed by China, and half the products are consumed by the USA and Europe.“ Therefore, the production will be located where the main customers are. Different locations are needed, big companies want to have deliveries from different countries. Now we are gathering investors to launch the first phase of the Luxembourg installation by 2022. "And the share of Rusnano in the stake in the company is small. And they are unlikely to pay taxes to our budget. So that's as always. And reasons for screams "Urya-ya!" I do not see.
    5. iouris 19 February 2020 15: 28 New
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      Quote: Svarog
      Another revolution from Chubais? annoying ..

      Why? Russia is a great nano-power.
  2. rocket757 19 February 2020 11: 45 New
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    Quote: certero
    aluminum is 2 times stronger how is it?

    wonders of science! only in this particular case, with such specific red faces, are these “miracles” of a completely different category ... sleight of hand \ language and no fraud!
    1. SRC P-15 19 February 2020 11: 48 New
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      For example, a 0,1 percent addition of nanotubes to aluminum doubles its strength, and the addition of one thousandth of a percent of this material to concrete makes it one and a half times stronger. And adding 0,01 percent to plastic, you can make it electrically conductive. Graphene tubes themselves are 150 times stronger than steel

      Something reminds a fly in the ointment ... yes
  3. Sling cutter 19 February 2020 11: 50 New
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    the mere mention of this surname makes me vomit. am
    1. rocket757 19 February 2020 11: 56 New
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      the mere mention of this surname makes me vomit. am

      Probably holier than others .... a hand, at least, reaches for holy water, although a well-planed “pencil” would be more effective.
      1. Sling cutter 19 February 2020 12: 15 New
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        Quote: rocket757
        rocket757 (Victor)
        An aspen stake in an insatiable erysipelas will complement an amazing landscape!
        1. rocket757 19 February 2020 12: 39 New
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          I’m not sorry for that "damn power" for sure.
          Although it is clear that the strength of this many-sided one, this particular one was already very familiar, tired of everyone, and it also creates an infinite amount of devilry.
          1. Sling cutter 19 February 2020 12: 58 New
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            Quote: rocket757
            rocket757 (Victor)


            Victor, you see, what parsley, of course, with all our hatred for this mmm ..... personality, this name is already a household name, a common name for the many-headed hydra, whose name is a lie, greed and betrayal. Unfortunately, many local guards have little understanding of what is happening, hoping for some kind of HSP, messages, jerks, breakouts, netanalagafvmira and other crap, not wanting to see that the country is dying in the literal sense. The main thing is that the body is warm, the kids are arranged in security schools, so that later they can guard someone's thread, but in such a way that without much risk and for decent money. This is surrealism.
            1. rocket757 19 February 2020 13: 52 New
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              Quote: Stroporez
              This is surrealism.

              This inability to analyze, predict, and indeed unwillingness to turn to common sense ... and even the last, fundamental, lack of a heightened sense of self-preservation, which should extend not only to themselves, but also to those for whom everyone is responsible! I don’t even talk about the whole country, everything is very dull there.
    2. Arlen 19 February 2020 11: 57 New
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      the mere mention of this surname makes me vomit.

      Today is a rich day for such surnames, the tagged one was remembered and now Chubais.
    3. Yngvar 19 February 2020 12: 04 New
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      Chubais (chuba, chubys, Germans (?) Chubais, red devil) in the lower mythology of the Great Russians and Latgalians is a small malicious house spirit. Ch. Represented in the image of a pot-bellied red rat "with a face like a human". He dwells in houses at the behest of evil sorcerers, puts out the fire in the hearth, demanding a ransom with grain ("he will take everything from the barns, will notice it from the gang") and animals ("that moo and bleat, clatter and bark, the cow and the dog - drive into gullies, the trigger and the goat - in my lair "), but not because he wants to eat, and then to make people starve. "He doesn’t eat life or meat, doesn’t drink beer or kvass, but feeds on human misfortune." First, Ch. Settles in one hut, but if he does not survive, he can "ruin the whole volost."
      "Mythological Dictionary", ed. D.S. Likhacheva
      1. rich 19 February 2020 12: 32 New
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        Why are there not the most odious persons in the American sanctions list: Kudrin, Nabiullina, Chubais? This is some terrible pale of the State Department. Shtirlits have never been so close to failure (c) With this, American partners planted a hefty pig Elvira Sahipzadovna, Alexei Leonidovich and Anatoly Borisovich yes
      2. Chervonny 19 February 2020 13: 36 New
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        chubais, redhead imp

        One moment strikes me. Everyone hates Chubais, the government knows this, but he is constantly appointed to high positions and allocated money from the budget for his “ideas”. Why is he so profitable for power?
        1. Vladivostok1969 19 February 2020 14: 29 New
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          One moment strikes me. Everyone hates Chubais, the government knows this, but he is constantly appointed to high positions and allocated money from the budget for his “ideas”. Why is he so profitable for power?

          Just remember what Putin says about him. And everything will become clear.
  4. Olya Tsako 19 February 2020 12: 19 New
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    This is an impenetrable Armata and Alligator. In how.
    And who is the holder of OCSiAl shares and why doesn’t the products fall into Russia, in particular Rostec?
    What about Red?
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    Quote: certero
    aluminum is 2 times stronger how is it?

    This is true! A single-walled nanotube increases the strength properties of this metal. Elastic limit, ultimate strength. OCSiAl, however, is not entirely Russian.
    Blurred Red by country. And the technology is really Siberian.
  6. askort154 19 February 2020 13: 03 New
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    .According to the head of the board of Rusnano, Anatoly Chubais, this is "an outstanding event of an international scale, a real revolution in the production of nanofibers, various materials."

    Take a look back!
    In 2011, Chubais showed the president - “a unique Russian tablet
    for schoolchildren, "which he intends to launch in production.
    A 25.06. 2015 announced that they did not begin to put it into production, as it could not compete with Arrl products.
    In 2015, Chubais at the New Year’s corporate party pleased the employees of Rusnano that the campaign had a lot of money and shouted “cheers”, promised to pay employees
    two prizes. At the same time he promised - "to answer for the bazaar."
    In 2017, Chubais announced the release of the most advanced personal vehicle on the Planet! A folding scooter weighing 40 kg .. and at a price of just 600 thousand rubles.
    "The most perfect personal vehicle on the Planet", on the roads of Russia did not appear.
    But Russia has - the coolest on the Planet, "Chubais-bred." yes
  7. vvnab 19 February 2020 13: 46 New
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    aluminum is 2 times stronger how is it?

    Yes, no one yet knows exactly how.))
    The main buyers are research laboratories. The material is interesting, but so far they are only figuring out exactly how to use it in the national economy.
  8. mr.ZinGer 19 February 2020 15: 28 New
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    Yes, how does it work, if with alloying additives in steel it is approximately clear, then with aluminum ...
    And how will this affect machining.
    1. Petrol cutter 19 February 2020 21: 21 New
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      "And how will this affect machining."
      I'm afraid this will not affect the machining in any way. So today in production, we are working with him stupidly abrasive for steel. No one bothers with milling cutters as it was in Soviet times. Moreover, there is nowhere to sharpen them all. With a plasma cutter, he cuts in general in flight.
  9. Petrol cutter 19 February 2020 21: 13 New
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    "aluminum is 2 times stronger than it how?"
    Well, it’s apparently the hull structure of the ship will become twice as light with the same strength. And you will be able to put much more payload into the same building. Similarly, it will be necessary to believe that aviation will happen.
  • gridasov 19 February 2020 11: 32 New
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    Somehow this very pleasant message sounds strange. Can someone explain how to evenly distribute the material one in another in such
    quantity. Especially in the responsible nodes and details.
    1. FenH 19 February 2020 11: 37 New
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      Quote: gridasov
      Graphene Nanotubes

      Quote: gridasov
      Somehow this very pleasant message sounds strange. Can someone explain how to evenly distribute the material one in another in such
      quantity. Especially in the responsible nodes and details.

      https://ocsial.com/ru/about-cnt/ ,https://ocsial.com/ru/news/363/ тут более информативно
      only: HEAD OFFICE. Pudreri, 1, L-3364, Lödelange, Grand Duchy of Luxembourg
      1. gridasov 19 February 2020 11: 48 New
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        I'm really grateful to you! However, I think that if we consider the space of the material as an interconnected system, then the tube in the geometric sense, and more precisely in how magnetic fluxes and polarization are distributed in it, is far from the best option. Even if we consider the tube as the equivalent of a solenoid, then this is not at all an effective form. Moreover, it is very difficult to construct long chains evenly distributed over the entire volume of the material from the tubes, even in strong magnetic external fields. Therefore, it is premature to speak of sufficient electrical conductivity. this is not to mention high voltages, which means that it is impossible to construct algorithmic connections from the zones of magnetic flux distribution from tubes. In general, of course, well done!
        1. FenH 19 February 2020 11: 50 New
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          I'm really grateful to you! However, it seems to me that if we consider the space of a material as precisely an interconnected system, then the tube in the geometric sense, and more precisely in how magnetic fluxes and polarization are distributed in it, is far from the best option. Even if we consider the tube as the equivalent of a solenoid, then this is not at all an effective form. Moreover, it is very difficult to construct long chains evenly distributed over the entire volume of the material from the tubes, even in strong magnetic external fields. Therefore, it is premature to speak of sufficient electrical conductivity. this is not to mention high voltages, which means that it is impossible to construct algorithmic connections from the zones of magnetic flux distribution from tubes. In general, of course, well done!

          Try to suggest it to them [email protected]
          1. gridasov 19 February 2020 11: 53 New
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            Unfortunately, I am more interested in the methods of analysis and construction of complex dynamic mathematical models, which by the way allow us to analyze such processes. And then I understand what I can and what I don’t know and what a layman is. What’s important, I don’t know how to beg
        2. Raven2705 19 February 2020 11: 51 New
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          But what was that ...? belay
          1. Krasnodar 19 February 2020 12: 23 New
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            Gridasov AI Program - Didn't You Know? laughing
            1. gridasov 19 February 2020 13: 15 New
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              Yes Yes! A very interesting object for cursing
              1. Krasnodar 19 February 2020 13: 16 New
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                I do not scold - in no case!
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      Quote: gridasov
      Somehow this very pleasant message sounds strange. Can someone explain how to evenly distribute the material one in another in such
      quantity. Especially in the responsible nodes and details.

      Casting. Father, under pressure. Add a pinch to the mold and wait a couple of hours. Convection does everything for you
      1. gridasov 19 February 2020 13: 17 New
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        It is a convective process built on concentration and expansion. And all the tubes will remain where they are better and more convenient!
      2. Operator 19 February 2020 13: 27 New
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        In the case of graphene (including nanotubes), only ultrasonic mixing.
    3. Kuzmitsky 19 February 2020 18: 36 New
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      How to distribute evenly? As in any other alloy.

      Melt, mix and cool. And to make responsible details cast, to carve, to cut out (underline necessary).

      And do not try to miraculously introduce nanotubes into critical parts and assemblies. This Chubais (will not be remembered by night) will not come up with.
      1. Petrol cutter 19 February 2020 21: 30 New
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        A brilliant answer! hi
        By the way, this is the first thought that visited me.
        It’s even strange that it’s not Comrade Gridasov ... Although ... Perhaps I don’t know something ...
      2. Dmitry V. 20 February 2020 11: 55 New
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        Quote: Kuzmitsky
        How to distribute evenly? As in any other alloy.

        Melt, mix and cool. And to make responsible details cast, to carve, to cut out (underline necessary).

        And do not try to miraculously introduce nanotubes into critical parts and assemblies. This Chubais (will not be remembered by night) will not come up with.


        And then erosion of a very carcinogenic material - nanotubes - will begin from the surface?
        1. Petrol cutter 20 February 2020 21: 05 New
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          Where does this information come from?
          Usually, any surface of the metal is usually covered with a protective layer of something. For example, paintwork in the hulls of ships, oil in the internal combustion engine, etc.
          Moreover, if it happens, it will be in nanometric sizes.
          And today I swallowed so many standard carcinogens for a shift that about nano ... It would be for happiness.
  • bessmertniy 19 February 2020 11: 34 New
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    Lucky Chubais. Another long time ago would not be winding up, but this one is engaged in nanotubes. what
    1. Sergey Olegovich 19 February 2020 11: 48 New
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      He is from the category of untouchables
  • tihonmarine 19 February 2020 11: 38 New
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    OCSiAl, formerly part of the Rusnano group, launched the Graphetron-50 industrial unit in Novosibirsk, which has no analogues anywhere in the world.
    Something painfully appeared a lot that have no analogues in the world. "Here my parents' toilet in the village was such that there were no analogues in the world. But if something," there are no analogues in the world, "Chubais says, then do not believe it just another fake about vouchers. I would like to ask "Red roofing roofing, but do you even believe that yourself?"
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      Of course, this is the result of investing vouchers in the right place.
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      Quote: tihonmarine
      OCSiAl, formerly part of the Rusnano group, launched the Graphetron-50 industrial unit in Novosibirsk, which has no analogues anywhere in the world.
      Something painfully appeared a lot that have no analogues in the world. "Here my parents' toilet in the village was such that there were no analogues in the world. But if something," there are no analogues in the world, "Chubais says, then do not believe it just another fake about vouchers. I would like to ask "Red roofing roofing, but do you even believe that yourself?"

      https://ocsial.com/ru/news/363/,толя тут вообще не причем
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    1. AK1972 19 February 2020 11: 50 New
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      At the time of perestroika, our factory developed the KES-1 product - Electric Garden Cultivator as consumer goods and also advertised as having no analogues. I must say that this is true, he really had no analogues, because in FIG was not needed by anyone, and therefore made them 2pcs. It seems to me that there is a similar story with these nanotubes.
    2. tihonmarine 19 February 2020 11: 54 New
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      And now I work where the results really work (and here in Russia)

      And this is wonderful, and most importantly, that there are no these ladies with reduced social responsibility, whom I want to call a good Russian word.
      1. bessmertniy 19 February 2020 11: 59 New
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        Interestingly, and these tubes, if taken internally, will they not strengthen health, will they strengthen reproduction !? repeat
        1. Krasnodar 19 February 2020 12: 25 New
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          Only if you add to the main working part of the reproductive mechanism.
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          If manufacturers do not cheat, then when you receive these graphene tubes, you will become 1,5 - 2 times stronger. But I strongly advise against trying hi
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          Quote: bessmertniy
          Interestingly, and these tubes, if taken internally, will they not strengthen health, will they strengthen reproduction !? repeat

          For these purposes, it is better to simply accept activated carbon, nanotubes from graphene ... In order to strengthen the erection, complete perversion))))))
  • Slavs 19 February 2020 11: 40 New
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    Chubais told ...
    Neither reduce nor add ..
    1. wayden 19 February 2020 11: 47 New
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      Well, don’t be so jealous of the unsinkable saffron milk cap. It is believed that it was bought from Western curators, guaranteeing security. What if it’s a valuable shot?
    2. Fedorov 19 February 2020 11: 51 New
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      Commenting is not even what. Freak sold the country. ...
  • rocket757 19 February 2020 11: 42 New
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    Chubais spoke about the “revolution” in the production of graphene nanotubes in Russia

    When the "red / hell" starts broadcasting something, I really want to check all my pockets, I also want to look at the public "money", at least from a distance, to look, because they don’t let me close anyway.
    here it is, he’s a scumbag.
  • balunn 19 February 2020 11: 43 New
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    It looks like another tale from Chubais. There is on paper, but in fact there is nothing.
    1. FenH 19 February 2020 11: 44 New
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      It looks like another tale from Chubais. There is on paper, but in fact there is nothing.

      https://ocsial.com/ru/news/363/
    2. gridasov 19 February 2020 11: 55 New
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      Well, why be filled with negativity. One must believe in the good and the good. Moreover, I believe that condemning a person is much easier than understanding.
      1. ultra 19 February 2020 12: 20 New
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        condemning a person is much easier than understanding.

        Chubais is an undisguised enemy. For all that he and his accomplices have done to the country, they deserve a minimum life sentence. I still hope to see this.
  • Gardamir 19 February 2020 11: 44 New
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    We are a country that has no analogues in the world, because everything we produce has no analogues in the world.
    Glory to Chubais, nanorevolutionary.
    1. RideMaster 19 February 2020 12: 04 New
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      Not just has no analogues in the world, but has no analogues ANYWHERE in the world, that is, even cooler.
  • wayden 19 February 2020 11: 45 New
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    So these tubes are related to hypersonic rockets or never?
    1. maidan.izrailovich 19 February 2020 12: 16 New
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      So these tubes are related to hypersonic rockets or never?

      You have already been told a lot. Do not be impudent. crying
  • mark1 19 February 2020 11: 46 New
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    The main thing is that we would have a demand, then in Russia there will be a real technological revolution.
    1. gridasov 19 February 2020 12: 03 New
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      I also believe that it is necessary to create a domestic competitive market for supply and demand. Just like Japan.
    2. bessmertniy 19 February 2020 12: 03 New
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      When nanotubes come to every single apartment and strengthen the well-being of each family belay , then we can talk about the breakthrough of this technology fellow . And there’s nothing to guess - this “breakthrough” will settle in the pockets of the same redheads as the same Chubais. negative
  • Vasily Ponomarev 19 February 2020 11: 50 New
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    analogue
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    In fact, all who are in the subject are buying all over the world. The main thing is that Chubais does not wring out or interfere.
  • The Siberian barber 19 February 2020 11: 53 New
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    Something often, this character, began to flicker in the media .. not for good ..
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      Siberian Barber (Alexey) Today, 11:53 AM NEW
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      Something often, this character, began to flicker in the media ..not good..
      Spit it out! wink
      1. The Siberian barber 19 February 2020 12: 08 New
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        If this helped, then the whole country would be spit)))
        Pah-pah laughing
  • friend of animals 19 February 2020 12: 00 New
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    There is no confidence in the combination of the words "nano" and "Chubais." But it’s great if these achievements really exist. Confused by the clause "Most of them do not disclose the fact of their cooperation with the Russians." That is, if you ask LG about working with OCSiAl, they will refuse to answer?
    1. FenH 19 February 2020 12: 05 New
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      There is no confidence in the combination of the words "nano" and "Chubais." But it’s great if these achievements really exist. Confused by the clause "Most of them do not disclose the fact of their cooperation with the Russians." That is, if you ask LG about working with OCSiAl, they will refuse to answer?

      No, I won’t refuse, OCSiAl itself is not Russian, it just has production in Russia
      1. balunn 19 February 2020 12: 38 New
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        Interestingly, and what is Russian?
        1. FenH 19 February 2020 12: 47 New
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          Interestingly, and what is Russian?

          The technology for the synthesis of single-walled carbon nanotubes, implemented in Graphetron 1.0, is described in patents RU 2157060, RU 2478572, US 6846467, US 8137653, US 8551413, as well as in a number of patent applications pending by patent offices. The technology allows you to synthesize a wide range of carbon nanomaterials.
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          Brain

          https://www.popmech.ru/science/317022-russkaya-tekhnologiya-grafenovye-nanotrubki/
  • mat-vey 19 February 2020 12: 03 New
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    Something a lot of Chubais lately .. is it not dangerous?
    1. Romario_Argo 19 February 2020 14: 30 New
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      when there are a lot of things like: Chubais or Gaidar - somewhere they sold something, shut down and went under the hammer in Russia
  • bars1 19 February 2020 12: 06 New
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    The concept of "Chubais" is so toxic that mentioning it even in the best news can discredit this news.
    1. mat-vey 19 February 2020 12: 14 New
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      Because there is no faith in him from the word "completely."
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        no matter how laundered, it still smells like shit
  • fruit_cake 19 February 2020 12: 07 New
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    the revolution will be when these tubes through his head pass at high speed
    1. Vasyan1971 19 February 2020 12: 31 New
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      revolution will be when

      There will be no revolution, but nationwide glee.
  • SanSanych Gusev 19 February 2020 12: 11 New
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    And they will pay him money with it! Probably.
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    In Soviet times, such developments were immediately secret. And all involved in them became restricted to travel abroad.
    And here, in plain text, yes to the whole world. Well, why then be surprised when our specialists are arrested under a far-fetched pretext over the hill. And then they pass the hegemon.
  • Million 19 February 2020 12: 14 New
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    Where Chubais, do not expect anything good!
  • Lamata 19 February 2020 12: 15 New
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    Again unparalleled in the world, it is very reminiscent of Soviet propaganda, which is so red, including red.
  • v_bueff 19 February 2020 12: 18 New
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    Ananotolia rushed into revolutionaries?
  • thinker 19 February 2020 12: 24 New
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    Quote: FenH
    only: HEAD OFFICE. Pudreri, 1, L-3364, Lödelange, Grand Duchy of Luxembourg

    That's it that Luxembourg negative
    In 2021–2022, the company plans to open the first phase of a new site in Luxembourg. Her power will be 250 tons per year.

    https://www.rusnano.com/projects/portfolio/ocsial-edinorog
  • Vasyan1971 19 February 2020 12: 30 New
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    Here, on the one hand - it seems, it is necessary to rejoice. And on the other - at the word "chubais", under the heart, something bad starts to move ...
    1. Lamata 19 February 2020 12: 34 New
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      And a hand reaches for a gun or a pomp
    2. Finn 19 February 2020 12: 48 New
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      This is because someone created it, and the redhead only found out, doesn’t even know what he is talking about, but it sounds like he created it.
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        This is because someone created it, and the redhead only found out, doesn’t even know what he is talking about, but it sounds like he created it.

        I remember being in the RAO EU, he boasted in the same style of the construction of the Bureyskaya HPP.
  • Campanella 19 February 2020 12: 33 New
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    Graphene is good, but light bulbs and batteries ... how are they?
    1. balunn 19 February 2020 12: 39 New
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      You still remember the revolutionary tablet, which all schools wanted to equip
      1. Campanella 19 February 2020 12: 44 New
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        I forgot! Well, they all from Putin to the last Chubais love to tell fairy tales. As far as I remember, everyone is fighting corruption and raising the economy. Only someone always creates interference for them ...
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        was, it was)))) and floated into the toilet
    2. Lamata 19 February 2020 20: 11 New
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      Our partner is China. Gaidarism is alive, we will buy everything, we don’t need ours.
  • voyaka uh 19 February 2020 12: 42 New
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    Great if it's true. good
    This material is completely revolutionary.
    1. Campanella 19 February 2020 12: 46 New
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      This is certainly great, only the people are not cold or hot from this. We have oil, gas, metal, wood ... Why not, but the poor people like a parish mouse.
      1. voyaka uh 19 February 2020 12: 52 New
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        It will become warmer for the people when there will be many such modern facilities.
        In Israel, such high-tech firms are the majority in the country. And therefore, oil-gas-metal is not particularly needed. Only as a small appendage to the budget.
        Selling a ton of graphene tubes will be more profitable than 100,000 tons of oil.
        1. Campanella 19 February 2020 16: 49 New
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          What fright will there be more of? We do not have high-tech goods for export (in normal volumes) Yes, actually no one there is thirsty. And inside the more so, the market is formed for imported goods, it is cheaper and better.
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            But is it necessary to change the direction of the economy? You will not go far to sell raw materials. And nanotechnology products are very expensive. Literally worth its weight in gold. For a few boxes of these graphene products, you can earn more than the year of operation of the Nord Stream.
            1. Campanella 19 February 2020 17: 05 New
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              Need to change, but no one! You will remember what kind of blizzard the former prime minister drove, whose work Putin rated at 4. Their whole job comes down to giving out money. And then they tell how they were released. Even the law on tenders is such bullshit, it does so much harm, but no one is in a hurry to change it, because someone is sitting on streams.
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                I think that as soon as Russia starts mass production of its planes and ships (civilian), everything will be in order with the economy.
                The first swallows are on their way. The new "maize", MS-21 and IL-114 in aviation; I hope that even the IL-96. But with the sea vessels ... while only military orders are visible and icebreakers ... The problems with the engines are clear, both for aircrafts, and for seacrafts. Nevertheless, some positive trends are visible. hi
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                  The reason is simply that the government cannot give military directions to imported components, but in the civilian world it is full of seams and pluralism. There, our enterprises cannot compete; it turns out both more expensive and less technological.
    2. FenH 19 February 2020 12: 48 New
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      Great if it's true. good
      This material is completely revolutionary.

      https://ocsial.com/ru/technology/about/ у них на сайте вообще много что интересного
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      if this is true, then Chubais said the truth for the first time, a person wants to believe in the best, but Chubais said the same length, well, it can’t be here without a flick
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      This material is completely revolutionary.


      And very very carcinogenic - destroys lung cells and penetrates the blood.
  • Finn 19 February 2020 12: 45 New
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    aluminum is 2 times stronger how is it?

    Just like they do now. There are a lot of aluminum alloys, if we say the customer wants the usual one, it’s AlMgSi alloy, it’s A4, it’s kind of like making spoons from it, if you need to raise hardness with the addition of a fraction of cast iron, once the order was for rocket bodies there is super durable you need to take an alloy with titanium . So they will add. Like aluminum, but different.
  • Igor Dvornikov 19 February 2020 12: 49 New
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    All that Chubais concerned was not turning into gold at all. The antipode of King Midas.
  • Klingon 19 February 2020 12: 53 New
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    Chubi blew the scientific revolution, well, hold on, probably soon they will spray the Eagle (Federation) with nanotubes at the direction of Han (Rogozin) Solo and now you will get the Millennium Falcon from Orel! Musk nervously smokes on the sidelines laughing
  • JD1979 19 February 2020 13: 15 New
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    Yeah, only the addition of Chubais to the Russian economy, for some reason, weakened the latter at times. And if you add it to a fund, for example, a pension fund, then the entire content will be annihilated)))
  • Operator 19 February 2020 13: 20 New
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    Graphene nanotubes can be used only in small doses - not more than 1-2% with respect to the matrix material due to the adhesion of nanotubes to each other in pieces of graphite (a natural property of carbon layers).

    This means that it is possible to strengthen the material with nanotubes one and a half times at best - when using hydrocarbon polymers as molecules, whose molecules have chemical affinity for carbon.
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    The problem is how to make the fibers from the tubes.
    Are the tubes themselves needed in such quantities if there is no fiber technology?
  • remal 19 February 2020 13: 23 New
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    Great, but without Chubais it could have been even better. Maybe something happens, for example, adding nanotubes to welds, for aluminum, titanium, etc.
  • Operator 19 February 2020 13: 23 New
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    Academician of RAS Mikhail Predtechensky

    An academician by definition does not have the competence to create and operate industrial production, even if based on its development.
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    The real revolution will be when he releases nano-vouchers. I wonder where you can stick them?
    1. Galleon 19 February 2020 14: 10 New
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      In the nano-knife ... Or change it to 3 nano-bottles of vodka.
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    Well, if Chubais says something, it means you can put a fat cross on this and we will not see any graphene in the near future - it’s nano!
  • Alexga 19 February 2020 13: 46 New
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    And this is not akin to nanotanks ?!
  • Arthur K 19 February 2020 13: 49 New
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    OCSiAl, formerly part of the Rusnano Group. Probably quietly took the company out of state control
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    Sergey Zasukhin, Managing Director of OCSiAl Who needs technology entrepreneurs // Present his vision of the demand for technology entrepreneurs,
  • Ross xnumx 19 February 2020 13: 57 New
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    Chubais claims that not a single company in the world is capable of producing a single ton of this innovative material.

    Why should we believe him? And what does “this” have to do with graphene and production, in which he is given the role of transferring money from pocket to pocket? Or does he want to tell us that his foreign curators are not yet up to date with what is happening? He is not just “Chubais”, but “a member of the Bilderberg Circle” ... belay
  • Galleon 19 February 2020 14: 09 New
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    Quote: ultra
    In all previous "projects" RUSNANO did. Battery, LED lamps, solar panels and other. Money was invested, but production, in fact, is worth it.

    In Rybinsk, NPO Saturn has a nano-tool factory. Red opened it about 10 years ago.
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    Now, if it had not been stated by Chubais, then I believed and was glad, and so, I am tormented by vague doubts about the revolutionary nature of this event.
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    0,1 percent addition of nanotubes to aluminum doubles its strength

    And the addition of carbon to iron turns it into steel / cast iron, also improving their properties
  • 1970mk 19 February 2020 16: 50 New
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    You know what .... every schoolchild in the Russian Federation should have long ago had unique tablet computers from Chubais. It was VERY-A very long time ...
    Question WHERE ARE THEY?
    Question 2 - when will they kill this bastard?
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    If we supply 3/4 of the world's consumers with nanotubes, WHERE IS MONEY THEREOF? Has the state invested, and profit in private hands? request hi
  • Engineer 19 February 2020 17: 21 New
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    I never thought that I would act as a lawyer for Ananotolia, but for the sake of truth I will have to
    In the structure of Rusnano, he worked for a year and a half as a line manager, so I know a little about what I'm writing.
    1. Accusations that nanotubes were invented 10 (20,30) years ago and Oksial did not create anything new.
    Gentlemen, the main declared task of RUSNANO-COMMERCIALIZATION. R&D is of little or no interest to them at all. Previously, they actively worked at the seed stage of the startup, but now they are not, the work is concentrated on the stage of the startup itself.
    The success of OCSIAL is that they attracted private investors, including foreign ones, and were the first of the companies in the Rusnano portfolio to achieve a capitalization of 1 billion. The success is undoubted and loud. Although it is still a long way from building an existing business
    2. OCSIAL from the very beginning headed for the creation of TNCs and the model of our compatriot Gapontsev
    (IPG founder) so they won’t put eggs in one Novosibirsk basket. To do business in Europe it is better to have a factory in Europe, and not just a sales office. This is what OCSIAL does.
    3. A memorable tablet instead of textbooks. This is generally one of the few sound ideas of Chubais. My eyes climbed over my forehead when I found out how much a fifth-grader’s backpack weighs, picking up an unlucky guy from the ice and seeing him off to the emergency room. But there were two problems. In Russia, they do not know how to make a B2C product if it is not a purely IT product. Second, from the very beginning, Chubais climbed to the very top, demanding state support and so many billions that absolutely everyone was surprised. And then the red-headed gentleman was given a paper lobby, which was supported by people like Timchenko.

    I want to emphasize that the success of OCSIAL is primarily the success of OCSIAL, our compatriots. So I just wish them success
    1. Engineer 19 February 2020 17: 37 New
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      Another charge
      4. The state invests in private business paying for risks.
      Yes, this is a dubious idea - losses are paid by the state, and private and state owners share the profit. I DO NOT protect this circuit.
      But in the case of OCSIAL, RUSNANO acted not as a co-founder, but as an investor, moreover, of the second stage.
      https://snob.ru/entry/178272/
      Rusnano invested $ 60 million. Now it owns 17% of the business at a cost of 1 billion. From the point of view of investment, a definite success. Of course, remember about BUT - the market price of a company is speculative and volatile. Let's see what's next
  • Russian_man 19 February 2020 19: 50 New
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    Revolution is good. But, these nanotubes ... they are so small. What is the point of talking about them if you still can’t find the ends .... I’m afraid that there are no more people left who can claim the opposite.
  • Petrol cutter 19 February 2020 21: 05 New
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    "And adding 0,01 percent to plastic can make it electrically conductive."
    What a twist! Well, see for this Comrade Gridasov and reported to the team just now. And they say to him: drink tea, drink tea ...
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    50 tons? It’s not funny for yourself? At least 5 tons per year, that would be an event ....