Ankara was not satisfied with the results of negotiations with Moscow on Idlib

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Ankara was not satisfied with the results of negotiations with Moscow on Idlib

Turkey is not satisfied with the outcome of negotiations on the situation in the Idlib de-escalation zone held in Moscow, consultations will continue. This was stated by the press secretary of the Turkish president Ibrahim Kalin.

We did not accept the map (borders of the de-escalation zone - approx.), Which Russia proposed. We do not have goals such as oil or territory capture. We only want to protect civilians and achieve stability in the region. Waves of refugees gradually pressuring Turkey

- he told reporters, summing up the negotiations.



Kalyn stressed that Ankara does not want to lose good relations with Moscow, but the issue of the offensive of the Syrian government army must be resolved. At the same time, Kalin confirmed that Turkey will continue to send its military personnel and armored vehicles to Idlib in order to "protect civilians."

He noted that the parties agreed to continue resolving the situation in Idlib, but did not specify when the next round of negotiations will take place.

We insist on the implementation of the Sochi memorandum on the Ildib de-escalation zone and the withdrawal of the regime’s forces (the Syrian army) beyond its borders. It is about the boundaries that were outlined 2,5 years ago. Our observation posts were placed in accordance with them, and we are not going to change this.

- he said.

Recall that two stages of Russian-Turkish negotiations have already taken place, the first was held in Ankara, the second in Moscow. Judging by the statements of the Turkish representative, Russia does not make concessions on Idlib, fully endorsing and supporting the offensive of the Syrian government forces (Damascus would not have dared to do this without Moscow). Most likely, in the near future a meeting will be planned at the level of the leaders of Russia and Turkey, but even it will not bring results that satisfy Turkey.
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    1. +15
      19 February 2020 08: 05
      "Turkey is not satisfied", so it was then to the sexopatholag, since Turkey turned out to be so frigid.
      1. +2
        19 February 2020 08: 21
        There are other ways to "satisfy" such obstinate "women" as Turkey. BDSM with addiction, she will understand it for sure. Proven by centuries of practice.
      2. -6
        19 February 2020 08: 51
        The joke is funny of course, but on the other hand, not Turkish women go to Russia to seek satisfaction. This is to the point that you can look down on the enemy, but it’s better to take into account all the factors objectively so as not to be misled.
        1. -1
          19 February 2020 14: 14
          I'm talking about Ivan, and you're talking about boob. Well, however you want.
    2. +4
      19 February 2020 08: 08
      Turkey is not satisfied with the outcome of negotiations on the situation in the Idlib de-escalation zone held in Moscow, consultations will continue. This was stated by the press secretary of the Turkish president Ibrahim Kalin.

      Boom talk, boom and boom again! Just the troops of Syria but to restore law and order where it should.
    3. +10
      19 February 2020 08: 08
      And green buses have already begun to take the civilian population of Idlib to the quiet territory of Syria.
      The population will leave, the territories infected with monsters can be radically "plowed up" and cleaned up.
    4. +12
      19 February 2020 08: 12
      Russia does not make concessions on Idlib, fully endorsing and supporting the offensive of Syrian government forces

      Russia has unequivocally supported and will continue to support the Syrian people in their quest to free their country from terrorists and invaders.
      1. +8
        19 February 2020 09: 11
        Turkey needs to be more flexible in its policy towards Syria - you cannot quarrel with your neighbors, and you can’t get into the garden with your neighbors. Otherwise, the watchman will catch and carve. negative
    5. Eug
      +12
      19 February 2020 08: 12
      What an interesting position - we help "civilians", and we pick up oil in order to "expand and deepen" this aid with the money earned from its sale ... otherwise we are not claiming anything, no ..
      1. -24
        19 February 2020 08: 54
        There is no oil, stop as an ipsoshnik according to the training manual. Svidomye at least in Runet on a training manual work, processing Russian, and here is the point? The value of your exclamations is zero, you are among your own kind. Does a jerk cheer a cheer with false slogans? What for?
        1. Eug
          +6
          19 February 2020 10: 06
          And why such a riotous stream of consciousness? Do not like it, consider it erroneous - minus it, why is it raging?
          1. 0
            19 February 2020 10: 35
            I'm just not a minus. It’s easier for me to express what I disagree with.
            1. Eug
              +2
              19 February 2020 10: 48
              Well, everyone has their own point of view .. but you must admit that the Turks resold the contraband Syrian oil for a long time, they were happy with everything and now they probably want to return those opportunities. In any case, they do not want and are struggling to prevent Syria from returning to the border with Turkey, while hiding behind crocodile tears for the rights of the local population. And with their separatists they’re much tougher.
      2. +15
        19 February 2020 09: 30
        Idlib and partially Hama (provinces of course) is breadbasket of Syria. The main manufactured product is food and fruit for export. There is a little bit of getting wet. For example, they are now bombing Hammiko, a medical enterprise that before the war made drugs of a wide range (mainly Vital and Essential Drugs) from imported precursors, well, they themselves released all sorts of little things. After the reorientation to Babaevs in 2013, they make all kinds of combat kits there, plus they also collect medicines from precursors, just a different assortment.


        All oil and gas are concentrated in 3 large fields:
        1) Homs - mostly gas. Everything is ruined. IG picturesque blew up pumping stations.
        2) DeZ is divided into two pools:
        a) It is located a little on the territory controlled by the government, but again it is very ruined, there all the towers and infrastructure were bombed, the air forces, the air forces of the ATS, the Americans, the French.
        b) The main basin in the territory under US occupation. There, by the way, almost nothing was damaged, the damage is about 10% in total.
        3) Hasake, however there is rather poor, plus not developed. Everything is interesting there, the infrastructure itself is in the hands of government forces, and the towers are in the Kurdish forces, which are not subordinate to Assad, but are oriented to the United States. At the same time, pipelines from Hasake again go to 240 km through Kurds of various directions.

        From the battlefield to the nearest oil - more than 300km.
        1. Eug
          0
          19 February 2020 09: 49
          Thanks for the face.!
        2. -11
          19 February 2020 10: 16
          don’t strain, it’s just the very beads and the very animals that nothing will pass, they will continue to blow about oil, which actually does not exist.
        3. -6
          19 February 2020 10: 36
          At least one explained. And then the local idiots are already tired of writing idiotic oil about nonsense.
      3. +2
        19 February 2020 12: 39
        Quote: Eug
        What an interesting position - we are helping "civilians", and we are tying oil ...

        hi
        At present, the northeastern and trans-Euphrates oil and gas regions of Syria are controlled by the Americans, who are also "tyrat" everything that is of at least some value. The Turks, under the pretext of "protecting the civilian population", are massacring the Kurdish population of Syria and practically annexing part of its territory in order to annex it to Turkey in the future. And there is no proven oil on this territory.
    6. 0
      19 February 2020 08: 20
      Russia is not a party to the conflict and do not ask questions to Russia. Try to negotiate with the Assad government so that it gives you control of part of its territory.
    7. +11
      19 February 2020 08: 22
      We only want to protect civilians and achieve stability in the region. Waves of refugees gradually pressuring Turkey
      In principle, it is logical that refugees, for the most part, are trying to get into Turkey. Peaceful life and no content.
      But there is still an option. Let Assad take control of the border and destroy the terrorists. And already from Assad to demand to solve the problem with potential refugees and slowly begin to return those refugees who are already in Turkey. This option should suit all interested parties. It just seems that the interests of Turkey are different from what it declares in the negotiations.
    8. 0
      19 February 2020 08: 24
      You see, Erdogan considers these lands Turkish, so the Syrians and the Syrian army have nothing to do there, in short the same story as once with Cyprus. The only question is whether the sultan will be limited to one Idlib? If Russia and Syria give slack, of course not, Damascus will be next, and Syria will ultimately end. We all know that Erdogan’s imperial appetites have no limits and, if successful, Russian territories will eventually follow Syria, appetite comes as you know during meals, it’s not for nothing that Erdogan and other influential Turkish figures love taking selfies against the background of a map of the great future Turkey - Turan, stretching from Aegean almost to Kamchatka, and of course they didn’t forget to turn on the Crimea

      1. +5
        19 February 2020 09: 18
        A strange map, for some reason they want Mongolia and Kamchatka, but they don’t want the lands of the former Ottoman Empire: Bulgaria, Greece, North Africa, Israel, Ukraine ... It seems that they did not draw this map in Turkey, but someone offended by the Russian Federation wink
      2. +6
        19 February 2020 09: 21
        Quote: Alex Russia
        Turkish figures love taking selfies on the background of the map of the great future Turkey - Turan

        Curious map. That's just Syria is not there as part of this Turan. But Magadan or the Novosibirsk Islands in its composition looks much more fun. Is it that the Turks also live, or was it once the Ottoman Empire? So funny, god ...
        1. +1
          19 February 2020 10: 21
          The lessons of history and geography were probably taken from Psaki. smile
    9. +2
      19 February 2020 08: 26
      Once was not enough, lie down yet, we will satisfy. lol
    10. Fat
      +1
      19 February 2020 08: 27
      The Turks undoubtedly entered Syria for a couple of a couple of parties of masturbation
      If there was no need for other tasks for oil and "Mineral resources", which Turkey did not seek
      Civilians?
      Bandits, God forgive me ....
    11. +10
      19 February 2020 08: 29
      Turkey is an acceptor, as is the United States. Her claims have no reason, neither from the point of view of international law, nor from the point of view of the current situation in Syria. The only reason is the seizure of territory. Judging by their hysteria, they had already planned to cut these territories on their own map and believed that it was a hat. There will be blood in the sea. It’s sad that you can’t just break them in to calm down.
    12. 0
      19 February 2020 08: 34
      And why should Russia satisfy everyone? First of all, one must love and respect oneself, and therefore one must first of all satisfy oneself !!!! Satisfaction is not enough for everyone!
      1. 0
        19 February 2020 09: 05
        Exactly. For Russia, the interests of Russia itself are above all important. And it would be good if this simple truth was learned by all countries, especially including some "former fraternal union republics." For some reason they still believe that Russia owes them something. Justifying with some kind of nonsense about the fact that they allegedly "helped the Russians" during the Great Patriotic War. As if Hitler on 22.06.1941/XNUMX/XNUMX attacked not the entire USSR, but exclusively the RSFSR, while not declaring war on these republics of the USSR.
        1. +1
          20 February 2020 07: 46
          That you are parasitic on the body of Russia, fraternal Belarus, tell me, I agree with your opinion ...
    13. -1
      19 February 2020 08: 39
      What to expect. Peaceful barmalei !!!
    14. -3
      19 February 2020 08: 56
      Quote: Less
      But there is still an option. Let Assad take control of the border and destroy the terrorists.
      Assad will then have to use 2/3 of his army to guard the border. Which is needed to resolve other issues, including in other areas of Syria.
      1. +3
        19 February 2020 09: 38
        Well, in fact, in other parts of Syria the army is no longer needed:

        1) To beat off the Dutch heights is clearly not the best moment.
        2) Assault At-Tanf - Americans will never leave the route No. 1 - Damascus-Baghdad.
        3) Take away the Kurdish quarter of Aleppo and the Harpish enclave - well, there are Kurds so allies, why make enemies of them?
        4) To select Dabik, Azaz and Al-Bab - there is already Turkey in fact, with its laws, Turkish flags, Turkish investors, and Turkish specialists. Erdogan is guaranteed to fit in for this.
        5) Repainting Kurds is extremely doubtful. They will call the Americans for help right away.
        6) To beat off the fields on the north bank of the Euphrates. Well, there are official Americans, already with the Abrams. The Air Force will call for help and there will be a reconstruction of the battle at the oil factory. In any case, clicking Trump's anger is not a good idea for current Syria.
        1. +3
          19 February 2020 11: 05
          Quote: donavi49
          To beat off the Dutch heights is clearly not the best moment.

          Definitely, for:
          1. Assad does not have as many landing ships as, incidentally, such expeditionary forces.
          2. Holland - continuous lowland, no heights.
          3. Oran, it seems, did not squeeze anything from Syria.
          Repainting Kurds is extremely doubtful. They will call the Americans for help right away.
          This, depending on which Kurds. And in the light of recent events ... request
          1. +2
            19 February 2020 11: 22
            AutoCorrect worked for me wink .

            As for the Kurds, the problem there is that they are not homogeneous. Someone is not against Assad's invitation, but someone is sharply against it. This will cause unnecessary hassles and problems. Those who are strongly opposed, under the care of the United States. Again, they will throw from something into the army column, they will be answered, they will run to ask the United States for protection. Who knows that there advisers will count Trump.

            Of course, paving the way to isolated garrisons in Hasek and Kamyshly is quite tempting. But in general, and now there are no problems with land transportation, if you coordinate them.
            1. +1
              19 February 2020 11: 27
              Quote: donavi49
              the problem is that they are not homogeneous

              So I’m talking about the same thing - one of them licks the mattresses, and they shoot at someone, like this morning on the highway.
    15. +4
      19 February 2020 09: 00
      A strange way to put things in order at home, by breaking into someone else's house. In Northern Cyprus, the territory was also cleared of Cypriots, now they climbed into Syria. "Clean" what ...
    16. +2
      19 February 2020 09: 30
      We have no goals like oil or seizure of territory
      I suspect that when I said about the territory, I smiled maliciously in my soul and rubbed my hands. This is necessary, "innocence" itself, without an invitation, rushed into Syria, and when the controlled bandits began to press their tail, it became worried, began to show discontent and put forward conditions.
    17. +1
      19 February 2020 09: 32
      Turkey decided to protect civilians without even asking if they want to or not.
      1. -3
        19 February 2020 10: 22
        Well, they are fleeing in millions to Turkey, and not to Iran and Russia, so here everything is clear without opinion polls.
      2. 0
        19 February 2020 10: 23
        If you put quotation marks around "civilians" in the Turkish statement, then everything will be correct. By the way, in this material, the quotes also reflect the essence:
        Turkey will continue to send its troops and armored vehicles to Idlib to "protect civilians".
    18. 0
      19 February 2020 09: 45
      At the same time, Kalin confirmed that Turkey will continue to send its military personnel and armored vehicles to Idlib, to "protect civilians".
      aha, defenders! laughing The Turk himself believes in what he said? laughing
    19. bar
      0
      19 February 2020 09: 46
      Ankara doesn’t want to lose good relations with Moscow,

      This is important, the rest is secondary. So they wake up and rub off. The main thing is not to give slack.
      1. -3
        19 February 2020 10: 29
        Well, if we diligently make good relations bad, then Ankara will no longer be sorry to lose them.
        although perhaps we no longer need this relationship.
    20. 0
      19 February 2020 10: 10
      Russia and the US time to organize a de-escalation zone north of the Turkish-Syrian border to protect the Kurdish civilian population of Turkey bully
      1. 0
        19 February 2020 10: 28
        Quote: Operator
        Russia and the US it is time to organize a de-escalation zone north of the Turkish-Syrian border

        I'm afraid the United States will not subscribe. There are no such oil fields as beyond the Euphrates and poppy fields as in Afghanistan.
        1. 0
          19 February 2020 10: 58
          The thing is different - the USA is tired of Erdogan’s deportation on every issue of foreign policy.
          1. 0
            19 February 2020 11: 07
            It is unlikely. Turkey is not a false start and right away, Saakashvili-era Georgia flees into the locker room. The United States is happy with everything there (except, perhaps, the neighborhood of the F-35 and C-400). They are generally not accustomed to be very sad about other people's bombardments, if this adds hotbeds of tension far from the US borders.
    21. +1
      19 February 2020 11: 11
      Quote: g1washntwn
      The USA is happy with everything

      Yes, yes - the nationalist Erdogan completely cleaned up the Turkish army, formerly the main American stronghold in the country (including the economy).
    22. +2
      19 February 2020 12: 46
      Erdogan said that he was ready to begin a military operation in Idlib despite negotiations with Russia on a settlement in the de-escalation zone. Ankara and Moscow are far from concluding concrete agreements.

      None of the previous meetings on Idlib "went the way we wanted it," Erdogan said.
      Question. Is it enough, three "Solntsepek" to cut off Erdogan's occupation appetites !?
    23. 0
      19 February 2020 17: 10
      or maybe they will hit and God forbid our people fall under the hand. will have to take the Bosphorus and protect civilians from among ... say the Kurds ... from the arbitrariness of the militaristic power of the Sultan :) it will be symmetrical
    24. 0
      19 February 2020 17: 14
      Quote: Arlen
      Russia does not make concessions on Idlib, fully endorsing and supporting the offensive of Syrian government forces

      Russia has unequivocally supported and will continue to support the Syrian people in their quest to free their country from terrorists and invaders.

      In this situation, it will be supported only by concern, so as not to lose the Turkish stream. Here Erdogan looks smarter, he will raise his rating, but in Russia someone will completely lose him.
      1. 0
        19 February 2020 17: 17
        Well, you can arrange and so that the Turkish stream suddenly becomes Russian. it all depends on the audacity of the opposite side
    25. -1
      19 February 2020 17: 40
      What was to be expected ... now everyone should die ... again.
      Then they will compose heroic ballads, mainly about leaders, soldiers will simply be buried - and all the rules, all is well ...

      "You were with us
      Both in the snow and in the rain
      Our leader, our leader,
      Our tomato leader ... "

      As if fig guys were not, do not give up the honor of the Russian army. We look at you and hope. ... We did not change you for tomatoes) ... Cut them there well, if necessary.

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