Ankara was not satisfied with the results of negotiations with Moscow on Idlib

Ankara was not satisfied with the results of negotiations with Moscow on Idlib

Turkey is not satisfied with the outcome of negotiations on the situation in the Idlib de-escalation zone held in Moscow, consultations will continue. This was stated by the press secretary of the Turkish president Ibrahim Kalin.


We did not accept the map (borders of the de-escalation zone - approx.), Which Russia proposed. We do not have goals such as oil or territory capture. We only want to protect civilians and achieve stability in the region. Waves of refugees gradually pressuring Turkey

- he told reporters, summing up the negotiations.

Kalyn stressed that Ankara does not want to lose good relations with Moscow, but the issue of the offensive of the Syrian government army must be resolved. At the same time, Kalin confirmed that Turkey will continue to send its military personnel and armored vehicles to Idlib in order to "protect civilians."

He noted that the parties agreed to continue resolving the situation in Idlib, but did not specify when the next round of negotiations will take place.

We insist on the implementation of the Sochi memorandum on the Ildib de-escalation zone and the withdrawal of the regime’s forces (the Syrian army) beyond its borders. It is about the boundaries that were outlined 2,5 years ago. Our observation posts were placed in accordance with them, and we are not going to change this.

- he said.

Recall that two stages of Russian-Turkish negotiations have already taken place, the first was held in Ankara, the second in Moscow. Judging by the statements of the Turkish representative, Russia does not make concessions on Idlib, fully endorsing and supporting the offensive of the Syrian government forces (Damascus would not have dared to do this without Moscow). Most likely, in the near future a meeting will be planned at the level of the leaders of Russia and Turkey, but even it will not bring results that satisfy Turkey.
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  1. Normal 19 February 2020 08: 05 New
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    “Turkey is not satisfied,” then it’s to the sexologist, since Turkey was so frigid.
    1. orionvitt 19 February 2020 08: 21 New
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      There are other ways to "satisfy" such obstinate "women" as Turkey. BDSM with addiction, she will understand it for sure. Proven by centuries of practice.
    2. RideMaster 19 February 2020 08: 51 New
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      The joke is funny of course, but on the other hand, not Turkish women go to Russia to seek satisfaction. This is to the point that you can look down on the enemy, but it’s better to take into account all the factors objectively so as not to be misled.
      1. Normal 19 February 2020 14: 14 New
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        I'm talking about Ivan, and you're talking about boob. Well, however you want.
  2. rocket757 19 February 2020 08: 08 New
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    Turkey is not satisfied with the outcome of negotiations on the situation in the Idlib de-escalation zone held in Moscow, consultations will continue. This was stated by the press secretary of the Turkish president Ibrahim Kalin.

    Boom talk, boom and boom again! Just the troops of Syria but to restore law and order where it should.
  3. Livonetc 19 February 2020 08: 08 New
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    And green buses have already begun to take the civilian population of Idlib to the quiet territory of Syria.
    The population will leave, the territory infected with freaks can be radically "plowed" and cleaned up.
  4. Arlen 19 February 2020 08: 12 New
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    Russia does not make concessions on Idlib, fully endorsing and supporting the offensive of Syrian government forces

    Russia has unequivocally supported and will continue to support the Syrian people in their quest to free their country from terrorists and invaders.
    1. bessmertniy 19 February 2020 09: 11 New
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      Turkey needs to be more flexible in its policy towards Syria - you cannot quarrel with your neighbors, and you can’t get into the garden with your neighbors. Otherwise, the watchman will catch and carve. negative
  5. Eug
    Eug 19 February 2020 08: 12 New
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    What an interesting position - we are helping “civilians”, and we are oiling in order to “expand and uglibit” this aid for the money raised from its sale ... and since we are not claiming anything, no ..
    1. RideMaster 19 February 2020 08: 54 New
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      There is no oil, stop as an ipsoshnik according to the training manual. Svidomye at least in Runet on a training manual work, processing Russian, and here is the point? The value of your exclamations is zero, you are among your own kind. Does a jerk cheer a cheer with false slogans? What for?
      1. Eug
        Eug 19 February 2020 10: 06 New
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        And why such a riotous stream of consciousness? Do not like it, consider it erroneous - minus it, why is it raging?
        1. RideMaster 19 February 2020 10: 35 New
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          I'm just not a minus. It’s easier for me to express what I disagree with.
          1. Eug
            Eug 19 February 2020 10: 48 New
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            Well, everyone has their own point of view .. but you must admit that the Turks resold the contraband Syrian oil for a long time, they were happy with everything and now they probably want to return those opportunities. In any case, they do not want and are struggling to prevent Syria from returning to the border with Turkey, while hiding behind crocodile tears for the rights of the local population. And with their separatists they’re much tougher.
    2. donavi49 19 February 2020 09: 30 New
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      Idlib and partially Hama (provinces of course) is breadbasket of Syria. The main manufactured product is food and fruit for export. There is a little bit of getting wet. For example, they are now bombing Hammiko, a medical enterprise that before the war made drugs of a wide range (mainly Vital and Essential Drugs) from imported precursors, well, they themselves released all sorts of little things. After the reorientation to Babaevs in 2013, they make all kinds of combat kits there, plus they also collect medicines from precursors, just a different assortment.


      All oil and gas are concentrated in 3 large fields:
      1) Homs - mostly gas. Everything is ruined. IG picturesque blew up pumping stations.
      2) DeZ is divided into two pools:
      a) It is located a little on the territory controlled by the government, but again it is very ruined, there all the towers and infrastructure were bombed, the air forces, the air forces of the ATS, the Americans, the French.
      b) The main basin in the territory under US occupation. There, by the way, almost nothing was damaged, the damage is about 10% in total.
      3) Hasake, however there is rather poor, plus not developed. Everything is interesting there, the infrastructure itself is in the hands of government forces, and the towers are in the Kurdish forces, which are not subordinate to Assad, but are oriented to the United States. At the same time, pipelines from Hasake again go to 240 km through Kurds of various directions.

      From the battlefield to the nearest oil - more than 300km.
      1. Eug
        Eug 19 February 2020 09: 49 New
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        Thanks for the face.!
      2. protoss 19 February 2020 10: 16 New
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        don’t strain, it’s just the very beads and the very animals that nothing will pass, they will continue to blow about oil, which actually does not exist.
      3. RideMaster 19 February 2020 10: 36 New
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        At least one explained. And then the local idiots are already tired of writing idiotic oil about nonsense.
    3. Lelek 19 February 2020 12: 39 New
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      Quote: Eug
      What an interesting position - we help "civilians", and we oil ...

      hi
      At present, the northeastern and trans-Eufrat oil and gas regions of Syria are controlled by the Americans, and they are “digging” everything that is of any value. The Turks, under the pretext of "protecting the civilian population", are organizing the massacre of the Kurdish population of Syria and practically annexing part of its territory with the aim of joining it in the future in Turkey. But there is no proven oil in this territory.
  6. Pastor 19 February 2020 08: 20 New
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    Russia is not a party to the conflict and do not ask questions to Russia. Try to negotiate with the Assad government so that it gives you control of part of its territory.
  7. Loess 19 February 2020 08: 22 New
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    We only want to protect civilians and achieve stability in the region. Waves of refugees gradually pressuring Turkey
    In principle, it is logical that refugees, for the most part, are trying to get into Turkey. Peaceful life and no content.
    But there is still an option. Let Assad take control of the border and destroy the terrorists. And already from Assad to demand to solve the problem with potential refugees and slowly begin to return those refugees who are already in Turkey. This option should suit all interested parties. It just seems that the interests of Turkey are different from what it declares in the negotiations.
  8. Alex Russia 19 February 2020 08: 24 New
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    You see, Erdogan considers these lands Turkish, so the Syrians and the Syrian army have nothing to do there, in short the same story as once with Cyprus. The only question is whether the sultan will be limited to one Idlib? If Russia and Syria give slack, of course not, Damascus will be next, and Syria will ultimately end. We all know that Erdogan’s imperial appetites have no limits and, if successful, Russian territories will eventually follow Syria, appetite comes as you know during meals, it’s not for nothing that Erdogan and other influential Turkish figures love taking selfies against the background of a map of the great future Turkey - Turan, stretching from Aegean almost to Kamchatka, and of course they didn’t forget to turn on the Crimea

    1. Tzar 19 February 2020 09: 18 New
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      A strange map, for some reason they want Mongolia and Kamchatka, but they don’t want the lands of the former Ottoman Empire: Bulgaria, Greece, North Africa, Israel, Ukraine ... It seems that they did not draw this map in Turkey, but someone offended by the Russian Federation wink
    2. Grits 19 February 2020 09: 21 New
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      Quote: Alex Russia
      Turkish figures love taking selfies on the background of the map of the great future Turkey - Turan

      Curious map. That's just Syria is not there as part of this Turan. But Magadan or the Novosibirsk Islands in its composition looks much more fun. Is it that the Turks also live, or was it once the Ottoman Empire? So funny, god ...
      1. g1washntwn 19 February 2020 10: 21 New
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        The lessons of history and geography were probably taken from Psaki. smile
  9. Ros 56 19 February 2020 08: 26 New
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    Once was not enough, lie down yet, we will satisfy. lol
  10. Fat
    Fat 19 February 2020 08: 27 New
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    The Turks undoubtedly entered Syria for a couple of a couple of parties of masturbation
    If other tasks were so unnecessary for oil and Minerals, which Turkey did not seek to rush
    Civilians?
    Bandits, God forgive me ....
  11. Pacifist 19 February 2020 08: 29 New
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    Turkey is an acceptor, as is the United States. Her claims have no reason, neither from the point of view of international law, nor from the point of view of the current situation in Syria. The only reason is the seizure of territory. Judging by their hysteria, they had already planned to cut these territories on their own map and believed that it was a hat. There will be blood in the sea. It’s sad that you can’t just break them in to calm down.
  12. Chingachguk 19 February 2020 08: 34 New
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    And why should Russia satisfy everyone? First of all, one must love and respect oneself, and therefore one must first of all satisfy oneself !!!! Satisfaction is not enough for everyone!
    1. Seal 19 February 2020 09: 05 New
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      Exactly. For Russia, first of all, the interests of Russia itself are important. And it’s good if this simple truth was learned by all countries, especially including some “former fraternal union republics”. Which for some reason still believe that Russia owes them something. Justifying some nonsense about the fact that they allegedly "helped the Russians" during the Great Patriotic War. As if Hitler 22.06.1941/XNUMX/XNUMX attacked not the entire USSR, but exclusively on the RSFSR, while not declaring war on these republics of the USSR.
      1. Chingachguk 20 February 2020 07: 46 New
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        That you are parasitic on the body of Russia, fraternal Belarus, tell me, I agree with your opinion ...
  13. Lamata 19 February 2020 08: 39 New
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    What to expect. Peaceful barmalei !!!
  14. Seal 19 February 2020 08: 56 New
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    Quote: Less
    But there is still an option. Let Assad take control of the border and destroy the terrorists.
    Assad will then have to use 2/3 of his army to guard the border. Which is needed to resolve other issues, including in other areas of Syria.
    1. donavi49 19 February 2020 09: 38 New
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      Well, in fact, in other parts of Syria the army is no longer needed:

      1) To beat off the Dutch heights is clearly not the best moment.
      2) Assault At-Tanf - Americans will never leave the route No. 1 - Damascus-Baghdad.
      3) Take away the Kurdish quarter of Aleppo and the Harpish enclave - well, there are Kurds so allies, why make enemies of them?
      4) To select Dabik, Azaz and Al-Bab - there is already Turkey in fact, with its laws, Turkish flags, Turkish investors, and Turkish specialists. Erdogan is guaranteed to fit in for this.
      5) Repainting Kurds is extremely doubtful. They will call the Americans for help right away.
      6) To beat off the fields on the north bank of the Euphrates. Well, there are official Americans, already with the Abrams. The Air Force will call for help and there will be a reconstruction of the battle at the oil factory. In any case, clicking Trump's anger is not a good idea for current Syria.
      1. Paranoid50 19 February 2020 11: 05 New
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        Quote: donavi49
        To beat off the Dutch heights is clearly not the best moment.

        Definitely, for:
        1. Assad does not have as many landing ships as, incidentally, such expeditionary forces.
        2. Holland - continuous lowland, no heights.
        3. Oran, it seems, did not squeeze anything from Syria.
        Repainting Kurds is extremely doubtful. They will call the Americans for help right away.
        This, depending on which Kurds. And in the light of recent events ... request
        1. donavi49 19 February 2020 11: 22 New
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          AutoCorrect worked for me wink .

          As for the Kurds, the problem there is that they are not homogeneous. Someone is not against Assad's invitation, but someone is sharply against it. This will cause unnecessary hassles and problems. Those who are strongly opposed, under the care of the United States. Again, they will throw from something into the army column, they will be answered, they will run to ask the United States for protection. Who knows that there advisers will count Trump.

          Of course, paving the way to isolated garrisons in Hasek and Kamyshly is quite tempting. But in general, and now there are no problems with land transportation, if you coordinate them.
          1. Paranoid50 19 February 2020 11: 27 New
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            Quote: donavi49
            the problem is that they are not homogeneous

            So I’m talking about the same thing - one of them licks the mattresses, and they shoot at someone, like this morning on the highway.
  15. g1washntwn 19 February 2020 09: 00 New
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    A strange way to restore order at home, getting into someone else's house. In Northern Cyprus, too, the territory was cleared of Cypriots, now they have climbed into Syria. "Chistyuli" what ...
  16. rotmistr60 19 February 2020 09: 30 New
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    We have no goals like oil or seizure of territory
    I suspect that when he said about the territory in the soul he smiled maliciously and rubbed his hands. It’s necessary, the very “innocence” rushed into Syria without invitation, and when the controlled bandits began to press their tail, they became worried, began to show dissatisfaction and make conditions.
  17. Chaldon48 19 February 2020 09: 32 New
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    Turkey decided to protect civilians without even asking if they want to or not.
    1. protoss 19 February 2020 10: 22 New
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      Well, they are fleeing in millions to Turkey, and not to Iran and Russia, so here everything is clear without opinion polls.
    2. g1washntwn 19 February 2020 10: 23 New
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      If the Turkish statement quotes “civilians”, then everything will be true. By the way, in this material, quotation marks also reflect the essence:
      Turkey will continue to send its troops and armored vehicles to Idlib to "protect civilians".
  18. aszzz888 19 February 2020 09: 45 New
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    At the same time, Kalin confirmed that Turkey will continue to send its military personnel and armored vehicles to Idlib, to "protect civilians".
    aha, defenders! laughing The Turk himself believes in what he said? laughing
  19. bar
    bar 19 February 2020 09: 46 New
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    Ankara doesn’t want to lose good relations with Moscow,

    This is important, the rest is secondary. So they wake up and rub off. The main thing is not to give slack.
    1. protoss 19 February 2020 10: 29 New
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      Well, if we diligently make good relations bad, then Ankara will no longer be sorry to lose them.
      although perhaps we no longer need this relationship.
  20. Operator 19 February 2020 10: 10 New
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    Russia and the US time to organize a de-escalation zone north of the Turkish-Syrian border to protect the Kurdish civilian population of Turkey bully
    1. g1washntwn 19 February 2020 10: 28 New
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      Quote: Operator
      Russia and the US it is time to organize a de-escalation zone north of the Turkish-Syrian border

      I'm afraid the United States will not subscribe. There are no such oil fields as beyond the Euphrates and poppy fields as in Afghanistan.
      1. Operator 19 February 2020 10: 58 New
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        The thing is different - the USA is tired of Erdogan’s deportation on every issue of foreign policy.
        1. g1washntwn 19 February 2020 11: 07 New
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          It is unlikely. Turkey is not a false start and right away, Saakashvili-era Georgia flees into the locker room. The United States is happy with everything there (except, perhaps, the neighborhood of the F-35 and C-400). They are generally not accustomed to be very sad about other people's bombardments, if this adds hotbeds of tension far from the US borders.
  21. Operator 19 February 2020 11: 11 New
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    Quote: g1washntwn
    The USA is happy with everything

    Yes, yes - the nationalist Erdogan completely cleaned up the Turkish army, formerly the main American stronghold in the country (including the economy).
  22. Olya Tsako 19 February 2020 12: 46 New
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    Erdogan said that he was ready to begin a military operation in Idlib despite negotiations with Russia on a settlement in the de-escalation zone. Ankara and Moscow are far from concluding concrete agreements.

    None of the previous meetings on Idlib "went the way we wanted to," Erdogan said.
    Question. But will there be enough, three “Solntsepekov” for cutting off the Erdogan occupation appetites!?
  23. Last centurion 19 February 2020 17: 10 New
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    or maybe they will hit and God forbid our people fall under the hand. will have to take the Bosphorus and protect civilians from among ... say the Kurds ... from the arbitrariness of the militaristic power of the Sultan :) it will be symmetrical
  24. gig334 19 February 2020 17: 14 New
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    Quote: Arlen
    Russia does not make concessions on Idlib, fully endorsing and supporting the offensive of Syrian government forces

    Russia has unequivocally supported and will continue to support the Syrian people in their quest to free their country from terrorists and invaders.

    In this situation, it will be supported only by concern, so as not to lose the Turkish stream. Here Erdogan looks smarter, he will raise his rating, but in Russia someone will completely lose him.
    1. Last centurion 19 February 2020 17: 17 New
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      Well, you can arrange and so that the Turkish stream suddenly becomes Russian. it all depends on the audacity of the opposite side
  25. Russian_man 19 February 2020 17: 40 New
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    What was to be expected ... now everyone should die ... again.
    Then they will compose heroic ballads, mainly about leaders, soldiers will simply be buried - and all the rules, all is well ...

    "You were with us
    Both in the snow and in the rain
    Our leader, our leader,
    Our tomato leader ... "

    As if fig guys were not, do not give up the honor of the Russian army. We look at you and hope. ... We did not change you for tomatoes) ... Cut them there well, if necessary.